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Mission Men: Life and Shenanigans with Isaac
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Ever wonder what it's like to juggle steel coils, aluminum, and truck drivers for a living? Meet John's best friend and freight broker extraordinaire, Isaac Davey, who joins us on the Mission Men Podcast to unravel the mysteries of his unique profession and share a few laughs along the way. Clad in matching outfits (we swear it wasn't planned), we kick off a conversation that's as much about the quirks of logistics as it is about the unpredictable journey of lifelong friendship.
Buckle up for a trip down memory lane as Isaac, accompanied by our fellow Mission Man John, reminisce about our first comical encounter in the kids' ministry of Joy Church—complete with a biblical icebreaker you won't forget. From fashion faux pas to roommate shenanigans, this episode is a treasure trove of nostalgia and rib-tickling tales that showcase the unbreakable bond. Trust me, you don't want to miss out on this blend of industry insights and personal revelations—all served with a side of hearty chuckles.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Mission Men Podcast brought to you by Mission Media Group. Mission Men Podcast, the podcast about nothing and everything A little in between. So, guys, we have another great, great episode today. We're kind of doing like the guest tour, this is the guest tour. Yeah, we kind of got all great great episode today. We're kind of doing like the guest tour.
Speaker 2This is the guest tour.
Speaker 3Yeah, we kind of got all the special guests on today and what's crazy is that for some reason, we've all worn the same clothes every episode. Why is that? Why is that I didn't do laundry? Don't let the voice tread in.
Speaker 1I don't know what you just said. So Isaac, so we have Isaac with us.
Speaker 2I don't know what you just said. So Isaac, so we have Isaac with us. We are so excited, we're really excited for this one.
Speaker 1Okay. So, ladies and gentlemen, isaac Davey, one of our good, good, special, special friends, he's my best friend.
Speaker 3I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1Yes so okay, I'm going to have to edit so much of this episode, isaac, so why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself before?
Speaker 2No relations.
Speaker 1Just tell us a little bit what you're up to, who you are and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4Well, I'm Isaac, I'm an Aquarius, what are you going?
Speaker 2to say I'm an Aquarius, I'm an.
Speaker 4Aquarius. Actually I'm a Scorpio, that's what they say. I don't know what that means it means he's got a very powerful sting, yeah no, I uh for, for a living, a freight broker, which is like not a common job. Yeah okay you know what that is freight brokering yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Well, you know what that is well here, just real quick.
Speaker 4Yeah, tell us a little bit, yeah, so it's basically, you're essentially like the middleman between uh shippers and uh like truck drivers that need uh. So we do a lot of flatbed freight, which is like we do steel coils big rolls of steel or aluminum. And then they'll be like Isaac, I'll give this to you for whatever $1,500 to move it from Fontana, california to Visalia, california. Then I'll find a driver for like $1,200 and then I just give them the load and then I take the portion in between it's like the middleman. The middleman.
Speaker 1That's pretty much what a broker means, right? Yeah, I essentially sell freight. There you go, broker, but he ain't broke.
Speaker 4There you go I always tell people I'm a freight broker.
Speaker 1Little freight, lots of broke there you go From the guy who drives a Tesla, bro, alright, there you go From the guy who drives a Tesla. Okay, bruh, bruh, all right. So, isaac, so we've known. I've known you personally for a very long time, ever since the move to Nashville. You've known John for a pretty long time as well, so you guys are actually roommates. I don't know if you knew that, and so tell us a little bit your relationship with John. First of all, how did you guys meet? Because we're really excited to dive into this whole dynamic that is Isaac and John. It's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 3It's crazy, all right.
Speaker 4Well, john always tells me this story. I don't remember it, but he says the first time we met we were in Generation Joy, which is the kids' ministry for Joy Church, and he walked up and was like did you know? Adam and Eve were naked. And I was like it started from a young age for me, oh my gosh and he said I just didn't even acknowledge him, I was just like Nice, nice, he just walked away.
Speaker 3All I remember is seeing this kid in the corner of the room.
Speaker 4You good We'll take a second Sorry.
Speaker 3All I remember is seeing this kid in the corner of the room. You good, we'll take a second. Sorry, that's all I remember is seeing this kid in the corner of the room. Okay, white baggy, jordan basketball shorts okay white baggy, nike or jordan t-shirt with white shoes. I was like that dude looks like a gangster. So I went up to him. I was like I need to know this guy. And I just remember my little kid head or whatever I was.
Speaker 3Like this will make him laugh. Did you know adam and eve were? And I just remember my little kid head or whatever I was. Like this will make him laugh. Did you know Adam and Eve were actually naked?
Speaker 4Nah, that was my little Floridian outfit, yeah because he moved from Florida.
Speaker 3Yeah, wow, tell me where you grew up Ocala, okay.
Speaker 4That was when I was like. Until I was eight, I lived in Ocala.
Speaker 1That's like center hour north of Orlando. Okay, it's like horse farms? Oh, okay. And so why did your mom and dad and you move?
Speaker 4to Nashville. I believe it's because my dad was a real estate broker and then that was around like 06 to 08. So you can't really be a real estate broker when the housing market crashes. So, he had a buddy up here and Nashville who actually developed like the plaza over where Little Caesar and Dunkin Donuts. He did all that developed a bunch of houses and he was like why don't you come up and start a construction business and partner with me so? He came up here, did construction and then that failed so he went failure.
Speaker 4So then that's when he started it he actually started his brokerage for freight uh with this tax returns that was the last bit of money that he had, and he was just like all right, got nothing else to do. I know how to do trucks, so that's it got tax return money and that's how he started.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's still doing it to this day yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome all right. So you guys are here. This weird kid comes up to you in shirts in generation joy the kids class and says something funny. So I mean okay, so obviously it wasn't very memorable to you. John remembers like details, so so when did you guys like really start like getting to be friends? When did that kind of start?
Speaker 3yeah, that didn't happen until way later than that, because we were we were little when that happened.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3So then when I because I went, I was two or three grades beneath you.
Speaker 4Am I two or whatever school was? I think I was three, because you're ahead like four or five grades. What year did you graduate? 21. Yeah, three, yeah, so he was three years ahead of me.
Speaker 3So we never really saw each other through church really after that moment, probably because he thought I was weird.
Speaker 4So he probably just was like, yeah, I'm not talking to that kid again Pretty much.
Speaker 3And he clearly erased it from his memory. Why would he think that?
Speaker 1I don't know, beats me.
Speaker 3And he does to this day. But anyway so we basically didn't really know each other very much.
Speaker 1All right. So for those listening, I do have to describe this Isaac is one of the funniest laughers, because when he laughs he just closes his eyes and his mouth and just not a lot comes out. I'll let you know when Isaac's laughing. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3So anyway, so we grew up through church and we didn't really know each other very well then, didn't? Really see each other, but I think when we went on the missions trip from George Church to Jamaica in the year of 2017.
Speaker 41917. Are you sure I was on that one, but I didn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 3Yeah, but you talked to me because the it's 2019. See, but I believe this because it's 2019. Yeah, but you talked to me because the See, but I believe this because it's 2019. No, because you know, chris Hooten.
Speaker 4I'm telling you, it's 2019. Do you know, chris Hooten, though Can you just trust me that it's 2019? I think, because think about it. Then we got closer during COVID, because then I was going to the live stream and stuff.
Speaker 1Thank you.
Speaker 3We needed something more, something. We need to kind of break that up. You're right. You're right. Actually tense because because I know I'm right, I said it.
Speaker 2Yeah, because because when I went through my phase of doing all the stupid stuff.
Speaker 3You were there, never there, to tell me not to do them until 2019 yeah, okay, okay, yes you're right, okay, never mind yeah he's right, all right. One thing you'll find out about isaac. He does not let stuff slide. If he knows the facts, that the fact, and you're normally going to get fact-checked.
Speaker 4I don't argue it unless I know it's true. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3Put that on a T-shirt.
Speaker 4God darn, what was that word, god darn, wow Well actually, when we were younger though I remember it was for like a year, two years we used to play games. This two years we used to play games like this may have been like fourth grade or something. We'd play games like football and stuff in the generation joy room, oh yeah, for like two years, but then after that, as we got older, we kind of stopped talking true and like I don't know, maybe well, you probably went to youth group and everything.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah we're cutting back right now and I don't care if you have to edit this.
Speaker 2No, we, I'm gonna edit that part out. This show is going to have a lot of edits, so if there's laughter, if you just come back from laughter.
Speaker 1That's what happens, so that's probably going to happen a lot.
Speaker 4Go ahead, isaac we used to hang out and play football with each other whenever we were little kids, so we kind of connected it kind of goes like the Lord draws people together, even though when you're young Like Pastor Jim talks about how when he was a kid he would preach, and so I'd say that we were kind of drawn to be friends even when we were young, and then as we got older not walking with the Lord, stuff like that we kind of separated and then Jamaica we came back and we became friends.
Speaker 3Maybe it's because we're so mean in what in a lot of ways we're similar, but in like other ways we're not similar. So maybe we God probably tried to pair us together when I one came up to when we were little, and then the second time was when we did stuff in church and played games and stuff yeah yeah, um, I'm just going back to that moment.
Speaker 4We had a second, all right so, but no, no, wait, wait, wait. Let me get back to it, yeah.
Speaker 3But yeah, probably try to have us get together those two times and then, when we're old enough to really realize that we need each other because we have different things that do connect and other similar things, and then we balance each other out.
Speaker 1well it's true, so yeah, all right. So what are some ways that you feel like you guys connect over or connect with, like what, what really what? What started growing your friendship? So what it is today, like how did that start? Just start hanging out, or um, like you said, jamaica.
Speaker 4So the lord, honestly just leading people to the lord together. Yeah, because like we were like oh, you're doing it together. Yeah, jamaica, like we were partnered up oh, oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha so we were just like going crazy on the street witnessing.
Speaker 3So we're, we're menaces to the devil.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was. That was a cool trip, cause I was like the first time well, that's mine and John's relationship. Remember going on the trip and being like I want to at least lead like 10 people to the lord. And then that first day of the trip, me and john led like 12 people to the lord yeah, and so it was like it was crazy for me because dude talks to anybody but me.
Speaker 1I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait. You mean the kid that comes up and says something about adam and he being naked.
Speaker 4Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1Right, okay, so here's something interesting, kind of on that track. But a side note, john and I were having a separate conversation and we're actually discovering that we think that I think that John's actually more introverted than he is extroverted. And here's what I mean by that, because I've heard the definition of being introverted is you recharge or get energy when you're by yourself, yeah, rather than when you're surrounded?
Speaker 2by other people, that's true so an extroverted they.
Speaker 3They get that energy from other people when they're hanging out with them.
Speaker 1And so john was was having a conversation. You were just saying that, like you know, man, a couple times a month I just need to like veg out and do nothing, not talk to anybody, not be around anybody and just kind of.
Speaker 3But key word couple, so that typically is like one to maybe three.
Speaker 2Yeah, but every other.
Speaker 3I'm always like all for it.
Speaker 1You have introverted moments, then Okay, so you guys start hanging out. So one thing I've heard you guys both say is that you just bring something out of each other. So try to explain that, Isaac. What do you mean when you say that?
Speaker 4I have this effect on John to make him the most politically incorrect person when we're in public. Okay, I don't know. I think he just tries to get me to laugh, so he just does crazy, random things to people that don't make any sense does crazy random things to people that don't make any sense.
Speaker 1All right, so so you you like getting a rise out of him, and then you get a rise out of making him laugh.
Speaker 4So it's like it's it's just people's reactions to him. They just like don't know, because I mean, let's be real, he is one of a kind like he's truly one.
Speaker 1There is no kind people just don't know how to react to what he does well, what were you saying real quick about what Paul like, what you think is so funny about the podcast?
Speaker 4What were you saying? Because John just says stuff and then Paul just looks at him and is like what?
Speaker 3Are you serious? Yeah, your reaction is funny too. And then he'll go.
Speaker 4Are you serious Because you?
Speaker 2never know.
Speaker 3You just never know. The thing that I think a lot of times is when I'm out in public with people and other people that I'm not as close with or complete strangers, if I am truly being myself, then they're actually going to think that I'm really weird and I'm a threat to society. So when I'm with a friend it at least looks a little bit more safe because we're laughing. I don't know, but in my mind it's more like if I'm with him, with him we're laughing together, it's a little bit more.
Speaker 3Okay, it puts the other person at better ease. Maybe, no, maybe it's the mustache.
Speaker 1I'm still just a creep oh the mustache yeah, let's, let's, let's talk about that for a second oh, the stash yeah so what made you want to do that?
Speaker 3sorry is isaac kind of siding out here, but yeah, yeah, well I recently hit 385 on bench and then, a week after, I grew a mustache almost immediately In no time at all, and those were related how?
Speaker 1Testosterone, it got.
Speaker 3Not estrogen.
Speaker 4It was not 385.
Speaker 3What was it?
Speaker 4215.
Speaker 3Oh, 215.
Speaker 4Whoops.
Speaker 2Same thing, yeah, same thing, Isaac.
Speaker 1Close.
Speaker 3It's close. It's close. Who's counting?
Speaker 1And who's?
Speaker 3Count Dooku Okay.
Speaker 1Yes, there you go. So Alright, so now you guys are growing. You're just having a lot of fun. You're making other people feel uncomfortable at their expense, for your laughter. No, it's my expense, or your expense. That's a big thing for me.
Speaker 3I don't ever want to be the public prankster who makes other people feel bad about themselves.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3I want people to feel bad for me because I make myself look stupid on purpose so they can laugh. So then they feel better about themselves.
Speaker 2So, self-deprecating pretty much.
Speaker 3Yeah Well, I don't always poop myself, but sometimes Okay.
Speaker 1so you guys are growing, so you're hanging out a lot. At this point You're definitely getting to be good friends, good buddies. So you guys just recently moved in together.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1So let's talk about that. What led to that? I mean, obviously you're good buddies, you want to hang out all the time, so what made you? I mean because, isaac, I think you were originally the one who was like, yeah, I'm moving out at this point.
Speaker 4And then did you ask John, or how did that work out? Well, we kind of talked about it a couple times together about buying a house well, me buying a house and then he was like I'd totally live with you yeah, if you did and I was just like.
Speaker 4I was running through like no yeah well at first I was like no, I'm just gonna live at home because my parents are like you know, we're not gonna charge you rent because, I'll just be dumb. If you're saving up your money, if you're being smart with it, we're not gonna be like you have to pay us rent. Yeah, so they'd be like, just save your money and then buy yourself a house, then you can have a stepping stone right yeah, so they, let me do that.
Speaker 4And then I kind of got to a point where business business was slow in the beginning. Then it started taking off. So I got to a point where I could get a house and I was like I was talking to dustin and he was telling me about real estate and I was like, yeah, all, all right, let's just send it. So I bought a house and he moved in. It was just going to be me and him. And then our buddy Nate hopped on too.
Speaker 3Shout out Nate so yeah.
Speaker 2Nate's a great guy. I really like Nate a lot.
Speaker 3Honestly, it started like a dream I had at lunch. Have you seen that meme?
Speaker 1No, no, no, nobody's seen it.
Speaker 3It's like I wouldn't. I want to explain it, never mind. But it started like a casual idea between me and him like, oh dude, how dope would it be to like live together, like we could just hang out and talk until like 1 am and 2 am stay, but anyway. So we were like that'd be cool to move out with each other and I was like, yeah, I'd be down, one of those ideas that normally you have with your boys, that you're kind of like yeah this will never really happen, but it's cool to dream about it.
Speaker 3But we made it happen and it's it's great.
Speaker 1So, with with you guys, what are? I want both of you guys to answer this question what's one way that you expected it to be and it is that way, and then, what is another way that you expected it to be and it's not that way, or it's different than what you thought? Can I go first?
Speaker 3I had almost everyone telling me, and I think even some of you guys tell me, that the bills of electric and gas utilities it racks up. Well, not really.
Speaker 2It's nothing.
Speaker 3Split between three people.
Speaker 4It's very, very cheap. Yeah, it's actually really cheap.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was very like I was going into it?
Speaker 2Do you actually use lights? We're pretty, we're pretty Honestly no, I was going to say do you actually use lights? Do you actually use your air conditioner or your heating?
Speaker 3We're efficient with how we use things.
Speaker 4yes, but, I was prepared to spend like 500 bucks a month in my mind I literally had 500 bucks, that might have been way too crazy, but it's actually not bad. So I would say three-way split. Yeah, three ways, you know, one person would be a lot different, yeah sure because yeah so that's my, that's that thing.
Speaker 3Uh, and then what was that other question?
Speaker 1oh, so that's what you weren't expecting, but what did were you expecting?
Speaker 3and it is that way? Okay, yes, I'll think about that for a few minutes. Okay, gotcha, isaac, how about you take over?
Speaker 4I agree with the utilities thing. People made it sound like it was going to be like breaking my bank account. Sure, To pay for electric and gas and whatever. But I was like no, what, this is nothing nice, but um, and we realized, well, this month it was higher because somebody put it on cool downstairs and heat or heat up. They're cool upstairs and heat downstairs and I was like so heat rises?
Speaker 4you were yeah, yeah, oh, he knew yeah, I was like, I was like look we gotta put it it has to be on the same thing and one has to be two degrees higher than the other. We can't have it. Just trust me, little things you find out. And it was like 20 bucks higher. I don't know how long. It was on opposite. One was on cool, one was on heat.
Speaker 2I was like this is okay, never again Right, it's not Right, but luckily it was only $20. Yeah, it was only $20.
Speaker 1There you go, okay, so now, what's the thing that you were expecting? And it is that way, like living together, like being best friends.
Speaker 4I thought it was going to be like college again and it feels like college again like living with your best friends, like roommates, like dorming together. But this is actually a nice dorm, not a trash Right, you actually have room. Yeah you actually have room. You actually don't have black mold in your room.
Speaker 3Right, we're clean, we're organized.
Speaker 2So are you guys both the same in the clean and organized part. Yeah he's a little more than me.
Speaker 4Who's the OCD one? We both kind of are, honestly, that's true, but you're more so though.
Speaker 3Yeah, he makes his bed every morning. Okay, I don't, not a shot. My grandma hates you for that, apparently. Yeah, that's true, but that's okay. She loves you in a lot of other ways, yeah.
Speaker 4Like. But both our families like with like dishes and stuff like. It's like you do a dish, you wash it off and put it in the dishwasher.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 4So that's one thing that we're both on the same page. It's like Conscious about that. Yeah, it's like you clean a dish, you put it up. You make a mess somewhere, you clean it up. You don't just leave it for later. You don't just set a plate on a table after you're done eating and then figure it out Right as you go. You clean up.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Have you guys had any experiences where you kind of had to work through something a little bit that maybe you saw a little differently, or maybe just some mismatched expectations? No surprises, no surprises, no wait.
Speaker 2Isaac did a really good job communicating everything up front before we got into the house. You have some kind of agreement. We have the terms of agreement.
Speaker 3You have a contract, yeah it was very long, but it was very well worth it, because it keeps us from arguing about different things, really, and so we set the ground rules from the beginning, because I think you gave me the wisdom of saying, hey, communicate the hard stuff now.
Speaker 4Right Before you move in To save the argument yeah.
Speaker 3And it worked because we haven't. The only thing we've had to and not, I'll say, all of us just to be nice to all of us, but the only thing we've had to work through is just kind of making sure the dishes get put away in the right way, but that's very minimal, and whose way is the right way? We'll remain whose right and wrong off the table for now.
Speaker 2But one of you deems it to be the right way.
Speaker 3Correct.
Speaker 4Well, I'm not there 90% of the time. So it's up to John and Nate they kind of you and Nate duke it out.
Speaker 3I'll leave you with two options. And from there, we'll go to the next question.
Speaker 1Okay, so that's good. So you guys are working together well. Okay. So here's a fun question. What are some of the things like on the contract, if you will? What are some things like hey, we need to do this or that, what?
Speaker 3are some examples of that. Don't bring your shoes upstairs.
Speaker 4That's in the contract. Is that in the contract? I don't think that's in the contract.
Speaker 3Maybe I've just made it such a big deal.
Speaker 4I don't think that's in the contract.
Speaker 2Let's put a pin in that. Don't bring your shoes upstairs. Why did you say that? Because it's all carpet upstairs.
Speaker 3It's all carpet upstairs and it's new, he just wants to keep it clean. He might have just made that a thing just because he wants to keep it clean. Well, that's smart.
Speaker 4Downstairs is all hardwood basically, except for one little room. But one of the things we put in the contract is, since none of us are married, no, no females upstairs in rooms alone. Because we're trying to I mean smart. All of us are trying to work towards being as pure as possible, so it's like keep it pure. What can you? What good can happen in a bedroom alone?
Speaker 1right, yeah, and you guys and so you guys are in a relationship, is nate also in a relationship. Negative ghost writer okay, gotcha all right negative ghost writer.
Speaker 3Yeah he is thriving as a single man hey, that, that's just like me right, yeah you and Nate could date. No, I don't swing that way. Edit.
Speaker 1Okay. So here's a question for you guys Do you guys feel like you're accountability partners when it kind of comes to that.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 3Definitely. We also have another one too, that girls can't be over at the house later than midnight if you're one alone. Is it in general too? Well, it's just, unless agreed upon by all parties.
Speaker 4We're all hanging out.
Speaker 2If you're all together, hanging out with your significant others. A Super Bowl party? Yeah, we're not going to be like oh, females out New.
Speaker 3Year's Eve, a Super Bowl party. Yeah, we're not going to be like oh, females out, yeah, right, right, right, even though sometimes we are like females out because we just want to play video games and be boys.
Speaker 2Well, you know, I think your dad always says you can't win from a losing position?
Speaker 3Yeah, exactly so that's what that's about, and I've lost from many losing positions before.
Speaker 4I've lost from winning positions.
Speaker 3That's same okay fair enough that's on a t-shirt.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh you can't win from losing or winning positions.
Speaker 3Yeah, there you go being a male's loss no no, hey, but no, it's a good time to talk about staying pure. Yeah, yeah physically okay.
Speaker 1Yeah, so as young men, I mean, obviously you guys have grown up in a world that is way different from the world that Paul and I have grown up in. It's just as far as like how open things are.
Speaker 2You have to understand. When I was in high school, we didn't have cell phones. That means we didn't have social media. We had three channels on our television NBC, CBS and ABC that's crazy. And PBS, and that was it.
Speaker 1Yeah, and then obviously the standards and the morals were a lot higher.
Speaker 3Sex did not sell in your face way like that.
Speaker 2I mean now, you could probably find it anywhere.
Speaker 3You have a, you have a device yep, you could.
Speaker 2It's there in your hand, if you. If you want it to go there.
Speaker 4Yeah, I funny there's the first place I saw it. I funny it's like a meme app.
Speaker 2That was like the first place I found really well, see, and back in my day, you just you didn't see it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I mean you you physically had to go to a adult store right. I mean that's pretty much right, got everything, which is crazy, I wouldn't know that.
Speaker 3You speak from experience. Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1So how do you guys? I mean obviously keeping each other yeah. How do you go through that? Yeah, especially today, that yeah especially today.
Speaker 3So I think I mean I I could talk about this for a really long time. This could be another separate podcast here we go we can make a part two of this probably but, um, I mean a couple biggest things on. It is uh, you know where you, you know you there's. There's so many different physical steps and wisdom advices to keep you from things sexually. But, like Isaac said, sometimes you can be in a winning position and still lose.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3And even if you set yourself up with a boundary and X, y, z, I'm not going to hang around this person, I'm not going to go to this place, I'm not going to be on my phone at this time, even if you do set those physical limitations, there's only so much you can do against lust and temptation sometimes. So the biggest problem solver that I've learned and Isaac's learned and we've all probably learned, is just being more like Christ and learning more about the Lord and getting closer to the Lord. Because when you're closer to the Lord I've been saying this, I feel like I've been saying this a whole lot to everybody, so I'm sorry to people who's heard me say this like four or five times but the more you get close to the Lord, the less you want to be like the world. And so if you are developing spiritual habits to grow deeper and deeper with the Lord and getting close and really prioritizing true intimacy with Jesus, then you gain knowledge of scriptures, you gain knowledge of how to pray, how to love the Lord, how to worship with your life, not only through song.
Speaker 3You do those things and those things start to eliminate more of the temptations that you say you know, you say yes to less and less temptations as you go. It's true, gotcha, you know baby steps, you know, with everybody kind of has seasons of failure every once in a while, but eventually you get to a spot where you're just so close to the Lord you don't even have the desires like you used to. Yeah, you know the devil still will try and tempt you every once in a while, but you're a lot stronger than you, you know, used to be. That's my take on it.
Speaker 1What were you gonna say?
Speaker 4I think you were gonna say something um, I was gonna say this may be too far, so you can cut this if you need but um we'll be prepared it's.
Speaker 4I was talking to somebody on a plane I think it was, I forget who it was, but um, they're talking about. They had the opposite view of what you have of that. Just because it's a new age doesn't mean that it's harder for men. It's still the same and I was like, well, that's a little I don't know, because I think that it is harder nowadays than it was in the 60s because it's so easily accessible like yeah, you could still sin on your own but, it's easier accessible.
Speaker 4And then I was me and john were talking to somebody on the flight about this when I was it's crazy, if the devil can get a hold of you before you realize stuff, then it makes it a lot harder to break. I was like five or six years old when I was like introduced to like sexual stuff, which is crazy to think about now, like now that I coach middle school and high school, I'm like yeah, these kids are 12.
Speaker 4I was like five or six and I know that because I moved from Florida to Nashville when I just turned seven and I remember stuff happening or doing stuff when I was five or six years old which is like insane. But the devil knows if he can get a hold of you as a little sorry for making noise on the table.
Speaker 4But if he can get a hold of you as a little kid. Then you're introduced to this stuff. Then by the time you realize that it's something you need to get rid of. It's already so deeply ingrained in you that it's 10 times harder than if you're introduced to that 17, right, or 16? Then it's like, yeah, oh, this isn't good, let's break this habit. But by the time I'm 16 or 17, this is what 14 years well well, and just to share along something with my personal experiences.
Speaker 1You know, in the whole dating world, you know it it has literally happened to me three or four separate times where I've gone out on a date with someone and then they're like hey, so how do you feel about sex before marriage? I'm like, well, the bible is extremely clear about it. And they're like all right, cool, well, I want to have sex, see ya like and I mean, these are Christians.
Speaker 1So going to that point is like maybe there was some exposure at a young age to where it's like, oh no, that's acceptable, that's just part of that's culture, that's just how it is and I just, I personally refuse to do that.
Speaker 3It's so normalized too, like I can remember when I used to be in the world of, like you know, porn and phone devices and all that stuff. I can remember being in that time and being on an app like Instagram or Snapchat and seeing like specific videos and stories of people telling you how normal you really are for craving sexual desires or craving less you know how normal really is, and statistics like yeah research and like right stuff that wasn't from idiots.
Speaker 3It was from, like quote-unquote, smart people. So the world makes you literally think that it's it's normal and not just craving sexual desires but like porn and stuff like yeah now I remember when I was like 16 or 17 people are like no, it's normal, it's normal, it's normal.
Speaker 4But now even like people like andrew huberman, as a neuroscientist, talks about how it's actually super detrimental to you so now they're finding studies that it's like physically like physically like, not just like on a christian spiritual, whatever level like
Speaker 2actually like to your physical self it's not good for you.
Speaker 4It's detrimental to the development of your brain what?
Speaker 3what is it? What? How does how? Is it bad for your brain specifically?
Speaker 4well, I was watching one and I'm not a scientist so don't quote me exactly but he talks about that. You have a baseline dopamine level in your brain, so everybody has this baseline level of dopamine. And when you have high hits of dopamine which is through porn or whatever that you have these repeated high hits of dopamine which is through porn or whatever that. You have these repeated high hits, that when you have a high hit, then you have a rebound effect that goes down, and so you keep dropping your baseline level every time you have a dip. And so these guys the reason guys that are addicted to porn and stuff have no motivation is because their dopamine level, which is your driving like when you have a successful win in a job or something, you have this dopamine hit that drives you to get more success, whereas it drops the baseline level when they're just getting these hits over and over and over and over Like desensitized yeah.
Speaker 4So then, they get lack of motivation, lack of drive, lack of effort to do anything other than just be a bum, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's some crazy stuff, but yeah, no, I think that's really cool that you guys have each other to help hold each other accountable. Yeah, um, and you know just, I love the rules that you guys have set in place. Uh, I think that's super important. I mean, that's just like you said, you're just helping yourself. Yeah, come from a winning position, even though sometimes we may fall yeah it's from the winning positions.
Speaker 1I wanted to ask you guys about something real quick. We had a really great conversation. I want to kind of bring it back to the fun side a little bit. So, isaac, to the dark side.
Speaker 3You might want to hit that.
Speaker 1So Isaac, along with me, is an avid sports fan for a specific college football team. John, as we have learned, is not so much the avid sports fan.
Speaker 4Come on, he is now. Now that we've been playing flag football, he's liking it more and more.
Speaker 3Oh, are you?
Speaker 4Yeah, he said he might watch with me this season.
Speaker 3Sorry, the reason why I got all like come on, was I thought you were saying he's not the most athletic, but I didn't even let you finish your step, we're going to talk about your.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, brandon. Wow, can I maybe stroke your forehead a little bit?
Speaker 2here your insecurities are coming out. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1But you can do that again. I haven't felt the touch of a woman. I'm so lonely.
Speaker 3I'm so lonely. His little sad chair and a table in his kitchen. All chair and a table in his kitchen. Alright, let's tell this story.
Speaker 1Let's tell this story. This is really funny. So at my house I have three young kids, and so I don't know if you know this, paul, but with kids, when they eat, the crumbs go everywhere, Everywhere absolutely, and I know you know I was just kidding.
Speaker 3So I have a robot vacuum cleaner and so, when they're not, at my house.
Speaker 1Glenn. Glenn is his name, so the kids named him, okay.
Speaker 2You're for real, no, yeah, no. Oh, they named the vacuum cleaner. They named him Glenn. That's sick, okay.
Speaker 1So I always send Glenn to pick up everything once the kids leave. So I take all the chairs and I move them away.
Speaker 1So it's so that the vacuum cleaner can get everything right makes under the table and stuff, exactly right so, um, when the kids are gone, they're usually gone three days a week or whatever, so I'll put just one chair back, just in case I need to clean it again for later. Right, and so the way that I do it, I just put it the way that it's closest and easiest, and it faces the window. So John and Isaac came over one day and there's just the one chair by the table and they're like that's the most depressing thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3If you text me a picture of it, that would be hilarious.
Speaker 2We have to show the picture I sent it to you guys.
Speaker 1We can pull up the picture right now.
Speaker 4It's this tiny little table and then one chair, just facing out, and I'm like he probably sits there every night just like so, lonely, eat cereal with no milk too oh my god, I don't know what that means what were we talking about, though?
Speaker 3before that, we said I have no clue, but you're gonna ask us.
Speaker 1You're just saying, get into, oh oh, okay, so so how does that work with? Okay, I want to tackle that first. So you're saying what you want to watch football, so that that's a development, because you have not wanted to watch football forever yeah so when did you want to start watching football?
Speaker 3because the super bowl just happened and you didn't watch the game well, I I don't really want to watch just yet, but I can tell by the way our flag football season is going and how I'm performing.
Speaker 2How you're performing.
Speaker 3I need to watch some experienced football players so I can be better for next season.
Speaker 2Oh, there's going to be a next season.
Speaker 4Yeah, this man, we were playing defense.
Speaker 3One play out to him.
Speaker 4We were playing defense, right. And so the other team snaps the ball and throws this 20-yard poster out to this dude. That's wide open. And I turn around. I'm like who's on him? Why is he wide open? John's like sorry, I thought we were on offense, so he was running a route against the guy that's running a route against him.
Speaker 3I ran straight past the guy I was defending and it was like 30 yards down the field and I'm pretty sure the guy probably thought I'm pretty sure the guy probably thought where is he going?
Speaker 1I just got lightheaded from laughing.
Speaker 3Trust me, I had a plan.
Speaker 2Please tell me what your plan was.
Speaker 3As you're in the other person's end zone, dude. I was thinking when I was running. I was thinking I am freaking wide open right now. Somebody hit me with that ball because we are scoring. And then I turned around and I look at William and Miles and they're like you're on defense. My boy and I was like you're on defense. My boy and I was like are you serious? And then the funny thing was about that. To add on to that is about five or six plays later.
Speaker 3I realized I hadn't even been wearing the flags around my waist. I've been playing with no flags, which I don't know how much trouble you get into that.
Speaker 4You just become too hand-touched after that.
Speaker 1While I walked over to the sidelines I was like shh, don't tell anybody, you are over Isaac, you know how when we watch Ohio State games and we'll get really excited and yell really loud then, all of a sudden, we'll just get lightheaded.
Speaker 4That is exactly what it is. I just turned around and I'm just like so heated.
Speaker 2I looked at him and he was on the floor. I was like what's going on?
Speaker 1That caught me so funny.
Speaker 4I turned around so heated and I was like that's on me.
Speaker 2I can vision this and it's the most hilarious you gotta come to the game Now.
Speaker 4It's funny. In the moment I was so mad though I was like bro, how do you not know that we're on? Defense you in the moment I was so mad though I was like bro, how do you not know that we're on defense? You can see the person snapping the ball to the other team.
Speaker 3I came in so ready to fall on sprint. I was just gone.
Speaker 2You were gone, alright, yeah, you were Our next game's at 10.30.
Speaker 3Late game.
Speaker 2You play late man.
Speaker 1That's on the west side of town, dude, it's like an hour away you think that's late.
Speaker 4I used to play soccer over in Antioch and their games legit started at midnight their indoor games.
Speaker 3Really yeah, that's a no. For me it's like these 50-year-old dudes.
Speaker 4I'd be playing with. I'm like don't you have like a wife hang out with?
Speaker 3Nope.
Speaker 4They'd be there at midnight. We'd play until like 1, 2 am. They had their priorities in the right place. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1Well, guys.
Speaker 4I mean, is there?
Speaker 1anything.
Speaker 3Awesome. Isaac, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 1That was a blast. Thank you for the good conversations and the funny stories Go ahead.
Speaker 3Yeah, this is something I wanted to do on this podcast in honor of you. I just wanted to sing you a song on the spot Okay.
Speaker 1Oh, wow Does anybody have a beat we can play.
Speaker 3Do you have anything at all?
Speaker 2Oh, we're done. Time's up Never mind.
Speaker 1I guess you'll have to wait.
Speaker 3I'll have to make a song another time. Let's close it out.
Speaker 1Do you have a song? Go ahead, go ahead. I don't have a song. Well, how about you can use the outro? Sure, okay, all right let's use the outro.
Speaker 2Yeah, here we go, drop the beat how do I sing to this?
Speaker 3I don't know, but I know I love isaac, so I don't need auto-tune to tell him that I love him. I love isaac so much and I just want to hug him. I want to play with his hair and braid it in the summer while drinking pink and watermelon lemonade, or something like. I love my boy isaac. He my dude.
Speaker 2I'm so glad.
Speaker 3We have glade, when he poops, what see you guys wait, what wait? What Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1What was the last part? What did you say? I think he's serious, and that concludes the podcast. Yeah okay, so do you want to do an actual outro?
Speaker 3Yeah, give me an outro let's drop the beat for real. Let's drop the beat for real. Here we go. All right, let's drop the beat for real. Yep, I appreciate y'all coming for real. No, thank you. I'm excited that y'all get to hang out with us today. Dude, I so love y'all. I want y'all to go out and be mission and women mission and men and start over.
Speaker 2We'll keep it on Many edits in this episode.
Speaker 1We got to keep this Isaac don't look at him, look at that Look over there, here we go.
Speaker 3I'm just dropping the beat. All right, outro Go. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in to the podcast today. I can't look this way because if I do, I'll probably laugh at Isaac, so I wanted to put my phone on self-mode. Anyways, hope you all have a great, wonderful rest of your day. Go out and be mission and go out and be men and women who are on a mission. We love you and we hope you come back and have a great rest of your day. Peace, yeah, yeah.
