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The Path to Financial Peace with Lisa Stringer Bailey: Managing Money That Truly Matters

Wanda Pearson / Lisa Stringer Bailey Season 13 Episode 67

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When Lisa Stringer Bailey lost her father and sister within months of each other—both without life insurance—she found herself in a financial crisis despite her career in the financial industry. This painful awakening became the catalyst for Triple M Money Management Matters, a mission to ensure others wouldn't face similar hardships.

Lisa brings powerful insights from her master's degree in accounting and finance, nine years as a Navy procurement specialist, and 17 years in banking to this candid conversation about money management. She challenges common financial misconceptions with practical wisdom that balances everyday needs with long-term security.

Beyond her compelling personal story, Lisa delivers actionable advice for every financial situation. She transforms intimidating "budgets" into approachable "money plans," advocates for high-yield savings accounts separate from checking accounts to prevent impulsive withdrawals, and provides clear guidance for small business owners struggling to separate personal and business finances.

The conversation takes a meaningful turn when addressing family matters—how couples should discuss financial compatibility before marriage and the uncomfortable but necessary conversations we must have with aging parents about their end-of-life planning. Her biblically-based approach emphasizes preparation without fear, reminding us that proper financial management isn't just about current comfort but about creating legacy and security for those we love.

Whether you're struggling with basic budgeting or looking to advance your investment strategy, Lisa's Financial Focus Framework offers a structured path to financial confidence. Her powerful question—"What would happen to your family if you didn't come home tonight?"—serves as both warning and motivation to take meaningful action today.

Ready to transform your relationship with money? Connect with Lisa at lisastringerbailey.com and discover why money management truly matters for your future and the future of those you love.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Ready Set. Collaborate with Wanda Pearson. This is where ideas spark, connections grow and collaborations fuse success. Tune in for inspiring stories, expert insights and game-changing conversations. Let's build, connect and thrive together. Remember collaboration is the key to success.

Speaker 2:

Welcome. Welcome to the Ready Set Collaborate podcast with Wanda Pearson, and I have my girlfriend, my girl that knows about money management, Lisa Dranger-Bailey. Lisa, welcome to the podcast. I truly appreciate it, and I've been trying to get you on. Oh, she had to remind me, Wanda, I'm supposed to be on your podcast and I said, oh boy, let me get down to my podcast now, because people need to hear about this. It's 2025 and we need to get our money management in order. It's also our financial situation in the way. So, Lisa, tell us a little bit about yourself and then I'm going to talk about your bio real quick. So, Lisa, tell us a little bit about yourself and then I want to talk about your bio real quick.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Thank you so much, ms Wanda, for having me on your podcast today. I am super honored and privileged to be here. My name is Lisa Stringer Bailey. I'm the owner and creator of Triple M Money Management Matters. I educate women on how to make more money, save more money and, most importantly, protect their money, and I educate on using life insurance to protect your income. Protect your family members yourself, your significant others, your children, your mom and them, your daddy and them, your cousin and them honey Anybody that you love and care about should be covered with life insurance.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely Absolutely. Well, you were telling me about that. I want to talk about your bio here. So you gave us some great information, but I want to talk about your bio because you got a lot more than what you're doing there to help people. So Lisa Stringer Bailey is the owner and creator of Triple M Money Management Matter.

Speaker 2:

Remember it matters. Triple serves women and their families with financial education and money management. She shows women how to manage money, save money and protect their money. Lisa has a master's degree in accounting and finance. She began her financial career in the US Navy as a procurement and budget specialist for nine and a half years. She worked in the banking industry for 17 years. Her current position is a credit analyst for a major oil and gas company.

Speaker 2:

Lisa empowers her clients to have financial peace of mind. She motivates her clients to think differently about money by keeping their mindset positive and engaging in financial education. She teaches how to prioritize, pay themselves first and build wealth for the future. Lisa is an advocate of learning new things, especially about finances and wealth generation. She understands the money struggle and it is her hard desire to help lessen that burden. Connect with Lisa and we're going to put that on the show notes. But definitely, lisa. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. I learned some about you here. I didn't know you was in the Navy and you was in the banking. Yes, ma'am, so she knows her stuff. So no, but welcome once again, lisa, for the show. I truly appreciate that. This is awesome and you told us a little bit about yourself. Let's get right into some of the questions we have. So your journey how did it begin to get you into Triple M? Money Matters.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that came about 10 years ago, about 10 years ago, when my father actually passed away without life insurance and two months later my sister passed away without life insurance, and two months later my sister passed away without life insurance. So this took me in particular really my whole family in a financial whirlwind because we was like where's the life insurance? I thought my father had that together. We always think our parents know it all. They got their stuff together. He has property, he got land, he got assets, he worked all his life, had money, but he didn't have the life insurance. So when it came time for the burial expenses and all that fell on me as the oldest daughter, and so that made me take a hard look at my own finances, cause guess what, I did not have a savings in insight of the amount of $10,000, which is the minimum between seven and eight $10,000, seven, eight $10,000 for burial expenses, a funeral, the whole thing. So, long story short, I went into kind of a depression because I'm in the financial industry and I was like I thought I knew this, I thought I knew what to do, I thought I had my stuff together, but God, me and God, we had to come to Jesus meeting and he was like you ain't got your stuff together and you should be, because this is your purpose.

Speaker 3:

That's really when I discovered my purpose as a financial professional to educate people, to educate families, that life insurance should be a part of your money plan, it should be a part of your budget, and it's one of those things that people don't want to talk about because it's death and nobody want to think about death. But God says we are all going to die, right, and we don't know the hour nor the minute that it's death, and then nobody wouldn't think about death. But God says we all going to die, right, and we don't know the hour nor the minute that it's going to happen. So we got to be prepared. God was like I need you to tell my people, I need you to start talking about this, and so we created together Triple M Money Management Matters, which is named after my sister, because my sister's name was Marsha Michelle Millsap, and she had a car tag that said triple M, and when God showed me that, he said money management matters, that's what your business is going to be. So that's how that came about.

Speaker 2:

I love that. I love that and it's so true because the same thing with me. I was the oldest and my mother had, back then, only a five thousand dollar policy yeah well, I'm thinking, okay, that should pay for that, the funeral and the barrier.

Speaker 2:

And the undertaker said, no, this is just for the funeral. I said, oh, my god, that's okay. So I had to come up with the money, me and my brother. Yeah, bury her. They don't open up that ground until you put that money down. And Facts, yeah, exactly. And another thing that you talk about that when I started networking, I started talking about wills. Right, people don't want to talk about that. They don't want to talk about it. I remember this one lady said I'm not going to die soon. How do you know? You don't know when you're going to die. You don't know when it's your time up. That's right, better to be prepared. So I appreciate you telling us about that, because that is so important. Life insurance and making sure you got your stuff in the order yes, how can people create a realistic budget and stick to it by what you said, to be able to manage, yeah, your family insurance and financial. How can they do that?

Speaker 3:

The number one thing that I tell my clients which is a part of my coaching program is you have to acknowledge it, you have to face what you got. You got to sit down and take some time with your money when you are working a job. A lot of times we're just working 9 to 5, 40, 50, 60 hours a week and we're not taking the time to see where our money is going. That's what a budget is, or I call it a money plan. A lot of people get restrictive with the word budget. They don't want to do it. So I say let's try to plan it. You like planning parties, we like planning events, planning our vacations plan it. You like planning parties, we like planning events, planning our vacations. Let's plan our money. So just take some time out every single day or every week, every week, every two weeks how often you get paid? Take some time, have a date with your money, put it on your calendar, give yourself 30 minutes to an hour to sit down and plan your money.

Speaker 3:

You need to know where every single cent penny of your money is going. Okay, therefore, you can allocate it to the places it needs to go, like in life insurance. Okay, I always tell my clients pay yourself first. That's the savings part. Make sure you have something going into an emergency savings account and then allocate money out to your needs. We know we need housing, we know we need shelter, we need heat lights all that that's good, but also put the life insurance in there as a need. Just like you need car insurance, you need health insurance, you need house insurance, you need life insurance, you need life insurance. So that needs to go in there with the needs and not just at the end of whatever you have left over, which nine times out of ten, we ain't got nothing left over so that's why we don't have the life insurance absolutely, and I start calling my legal insurance.

Speaker 2:

So you got all these other things need legal insurance, right? So that's right it's so important because we, like I said, said you just never know. I just had a niece that died at 38 years old.

Speaker 3:

Wow, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2:

And, like you said, life insurance is so important, but a lot of us don't think that, especially growing up in our generation. Nobody talked to us about that later, and then it was just a shame. So let me ask you something here. Another question so what are the best investments options for beginners? What would you suggest?

Speaker 3:

You speaking of investing in financial. As a beginner, I would say just set your sights on investing in a good high yield savings account. Okay, we want to start there, especially if you are on a tight budget. You're just getting out of school, maybe, or you just landed that job where you finally getting a substantial amount of money. Start with a high yield savings account. I know a lot of.

Speaker 3:

I worked in the banking industry for 17 years, so I know the whole routine. You go in there, you open up your checking account. The next question they're going to ask you do you want a savings account? Everybody want to say yeah, but we don't think about whether that are we making any interest on that money. Now, most interest in a regular bank, a regular checking savings account, is a 0.01010. Not even a hundredth of it's no money. Okay, you may have a thousand dollars in there and you might make interest, maybe 25 cents. I don't know. It's nothing.

Speaker 3:

So what I would suggest is open up you a high yield savings account in a different bank, outside of your checking, outside of your checking bank. Cause, therefore, you won't see it every day. Cause for me and I went through this myself I had to learn I would see my checking and my savings in the same bank, okay. And when my checking got low or in the negative because it was there many times I would pull it from the savings. So therefore I never had savings because I was always pulling it to cover the checking right.

Speaker 3:

So if you put it in a separate bank high yield about three to to 4% there's a lot of them out there right now then you don't see it. So therefore you set it up on an automatic draft, automatically going there out of sight, out of mind, and just let it grow there. That's the start of your investments, okay. And then, once it gets to a certain amount, say you want to. It's a step-by-step process, but you want to get at least six months worth of expenses in there and in anything over that you can start investing into other areas, maybe stock market, maybe real estate, maybe down payment on a home, whatever your financial goals is.

Speaker 2:

That is so true because that's what I my financial advisor. He told me the same thing, so I end up doing that my money. I'm like I don't have this money in savings but I'm getting 25 cents. So what I did? Open up a higher year savings account and I looked in it and I said, oh my God, I can't believe I didn't do this a long time ago. And you're right.

Speaker 2:

Put it in a different bank. Because you're right about that, boy. I tell you, if you're checking the savings in the same account, you say, let me borrow from the savings account, and then it goes down. Very good advice. I really appreciate that and I say, okay, I'm doing the right thing. Yes, ma'am, what I need to do is pay myself.

Speaker 1:

I need to start paying myself?

Speaker 2:

Yes, ma'am, I don't do that. So how that they have little money to spare?

Speaker 3:

That's where you have to really sit down and I call it a mindset shift. Okay, we got to decide in our mind what's more important, what's a priority in our money plan. You have to distinguish between your needs and your wants. Okay, a lot of times, if we really sit down and look at our money and look at our statements and things like that, a lot of times, if we really sit down and look at our money and look at our statements and things like that, a lot of the things in there are things that we want because we in a want world right now, we want it, we're gonna get it. Right now, we don't care, we gotta put it on our credit card. We don't care, we want it, we're gonna have it. Okay, we have.

Speaker 3:

It's a mindset shift. You have to shift your mind to say, okay, I want it, but let me think, let me hold off 48 hours and see if I still going to want it. Let me see if I really want it. Bad enough, let me set up a money goal. Let me set up a goal for that item where I can save $20, $40, $50 every pay period until I get the money and I can pay cash for it. I ain't got to put it on a credit card, because that's a whole nother issue, putting stuff on a credit card and how much you're really going to pay for it. My advice would be to prioritize. You really have got to change your mindset and prioritize what's really important to you. Is it a need or is it a want?

Speaker 2:

That's a great way to do that. I'm going to start doing that 48 hour thing, yes, but yeah, speaking of that. So what financial advice do you have for small businesses who are entrepreneurs?

Speaker 3:

Number one advice and a lot of people probably know this if they are a seasoned business owner is to separate your personal finances from your business finances. Now, if you are a brand new business, you might not know this, because you might be what we call bootstrapping. We're using a lot of our personal finances to fund our business, which I do that too. But you have to learn how to do. Like a funds transfer, transfer from a personal account into a business account. Set you up a business account.

Speaker 3:

If you run the business, you want to make sure it's legal and Wanda can let you know about that. You need an LLC, okay. Don't just be saying I got a business and you run it through a personal. No, that's not a true business. True business is a legal entity. And when you get that legal entity into place, then you go open up you a business checking account, okay, and run all your expenses through that business checking account and not in your personal, because that can get you into some tax trouble and I'm not a tax person, but when you get your business, I also get you a good tax professional.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, yeah, I just did our taxes with our tax professional. So, yeah, that's another thing. So how can a small business owner separate personal and business finance? And I think you already touched on that a little bit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just make sure you have a separate checking account, get you. And then, if you can't afford I was going to say a bookkeeper you can definitely look online and get some bookkeeping software. Quickbooks is one. They're a popular one, but they can be a little expensive. Now there's some out there that's free or some that's way less expensive than a QuickBook. Just do your research, google. You can Google everything, youtube everything, free accounting software and make sure you get that downloaded on your computer. Put in all your expenses so you can have a track record of all your spending, all the money that you're making, where the money going to.

Speaker 3:

And another piece of advice I would give a small business owner is also have you a savings account for your business that you can use later on down the road for expansion, for marketing campaigns, for projects to grow your business. That's a mistake that I made. When you start now you're not making a whole lot of money. So a lot of times a lot of the money you're making is going back into the business. But you have to be intentional and say let me make sure I put a little bit in a savings account for later, especially for marketing. Marketing is very expensive when you start getting ready to grow your business. That's where I am right now with growing my business and I'm having to put out a lot of marketing dollars. But if I had saved it from the beginning, I would have more to work with. But so that's a piece of advice for a business owner is to definitely save a little bit. Save what you can in a business savings account.

Speaker 2:

Those are some great tips, and you are definitely hitting me in the face with a lot of this.

Speaker 3:

You and me both honey.

Speaker 2:

I need to get business savings. I do have a business account, but you're so right about that Because with my marketing it gets expensive. Especially if you're trying to grow your business and then it may not pay off in the beginning, but still people are seeing what you're doing. So, yeah, definitely, I agree with that, it's everything what you're doing. So, yeah, definitely, I agree with that, it's everything that you're doing here. So what financial steps should couples take about before getting married?

Speaker 3:

That's a good one, wanda. I tell you what that? This is another thing that I teach in my coaching program, which is financial focus framework, and the focus is an acronym. It's F is for face, it O is for organize and C is for what? Communication Okay.

Speaker 3:

Number one thing that we have got to start doing with our money before we get married Okay, and that goes into marriage all throughout is communication with your partner. Where is our money going? What you spending your money on? What's your credit? Are you a heavy credit user or not so heavy credit user? What's your goals? Are y'all goal is to buy a house, buy a townhouse, buy a condo? How you want to retire?

Speaker 3:

Okay, a lot of people need to start talking about that at the beginning of the marriage. You want to retire at 60 or 65 or 70 or 75, right. You want to retire at 60 or 65 or 70 or 75, right, it's just so much. But the main thing is the communication about your money. And then don't forget this, because this is what I had to go through is your parents? Ok. As we get older, we don't know what our parents' financial situation is. Don't be scared to communicate with your parents and your in-laws about that. Where are they living? How are they living? What's their health situation? What's their life insurance situation? It's so many things that we need to discuss in our families that we have not been discussing in the past, which is the reason why I went through what I went through and God said, no, we got to start talking about it. We got to start talking about it now.

Speaker 3:

If you're getting married that's one of the things I didn't have a privy to is what they call the marriage council. So if you are a marriage counselor, a therapist, a preacher, a minister, whoever and if you are one of those people that counsel other, counsel couples, please counsel them. I'm communicating about their money. They want to communicate. Talk to them about communicating about other life situations, the relationship, your feelings, and, oh, that's good, that's good, but that money taught me to come in there too, because money is one of the number one reasons for divorce and I feel like if you had talked about it beforehand, you probably would know what each other are, because everybody have different perspectives on money.

Speaker 3:

Everybody grew up differently with money Like for me, I grew up. We didn't talk about money, but children. Children were supposed to stay in the child's place. We didn't ask our parents about money. We asked them. They say we would say we want something at the store and they'd be like you ain't getting it because we ain't got no money. That's what I used to hear all the time. Don't ask for nothing when you get in this store.

Speaker 2:

And money don't grow on trees. That's what we always say. That's right Money don't grow on trees a different way.

Speaker 3:

Now your partner might have grew up with a different thing, where they might have sat around the kitchen table and talked about the money and he knew where his parents' money came from. He was able to get the things that he wanted. So it's differences. So it's definitely communication is key.

Speaker 2:

And I tell me and my husband that it's four C's Compromise, consideration and commitment. Those are the four C's compromise consideration and commitment. Those are the four C's that actually kept our marriage going here. Absolutely, you got to work on it, but, yeah, I suggest that for your marriage. It's for marriage and you're getting married.

Speaker 2:

So that's, some great answers that you gave us Lisa. So let's talk about and then we're winding down here. Let's talk about one tip that you can give people to be able to be successful in their money management matters, and also coaching. So tell us about that a little bit.

Speaker 3:

The one piece of advice I would give is to focus. Ok, god gave me the word focus last year, mid-year last year, and I created a whole coaching program around focus. God is saying we're not paying attention, we're not prioritizing, we're not thinking toward our financial future. Like I mentioned before, we in right now, this I want it now world, or this microwave world, because we want it quick, and God is saying, no, let's slow down, because what you want to do, you want to live life to the fullest, but you want to do it smartly, okay. It's just like you can't go out here and skydive and without a parachute and think you're going to live. It's like you got to have some kind of protection. Protect yourself, be prepared, live your life, live it to the fullest, but live it with some sense, some common sense, and then with some principles financial principles that make that smart, like the smart goals. Y'all heard of the smart goals. So you want to set yourself up for success as well as set your family up for success, set your children up for success.

Speaker 3:

A lot of things that I talk about in my program is the future okay, because you don't want something to happen and you're not ready. You're not prepared. We hope and pray that we live to see 80 and 90 years old, but the fact is we don't know if we will. The times that we're living in right now and this really started back from years ago when they was having the mass shootings and things like that everybody was scared. You don't know, with something, people is having these mental issues and you're in that place and something happens to you and you're gone and you are the main breadwinner for your family. What is your family, what is your family going to do if you don't come home that evening? So it's all about just being prepared. It's not to scare you, because I don't live scared. God don't want us to live in fear. God did not give us the spirit of fear. If you haven't noticed, I talk about God because my business is biblically based.

Speaker 3:

I wrote my book Finding Favor With your Finances and that's the favor of God, because that's what God gave me. He gave me favor as I journeyed through my financial journey. Thank God that I was able to do some things and move some things around when my father died, that I was able to pay for his funeral, but I lost his assets in that because I had to sell his assets sell his land, sell his trailer and then had to sell it for way lower than what it was worth. So that's another thing of being financially illiterate. We're not understanding how assets work and the value of the assets that we have. But either way, in my book I talk a little bit about that. What is the name of the assets that we have? But either way, in my book.

Speaker 2:

I talk a little bit about that. What is the name of your book?

Speaker 3:

That's what I want to know, the name of my book is Finding Favor With your Finances, and it is available on Amazon, but I also have a link that I can share with you all. It's on my website as well, at lisastringerbaileycom, or you can purchase it directly from me, and it's seven principles to get you to financial security, because my passion is the future. I want you to be financially secure, not only now, but in your future. And if you're not here in your future, because then your family will be, your children will be. So it's not about right now, it's about leaving that financial legacy you know for years to come come.

Speaker 2:

I love it how you bring god into it, because it is so true that we need that and and have faith because you have faith to be able to deal with everything that's going on in this world today, and a lot of it is fear, so fear as far as the money do. I have enough money to do this, so I love that you mentioned that and what you talk about, and you do coaching, so tell us about your coaching.

Speaker 3:

So I have a coaching program. It's called the Financial Focus Framework and it is six weeks, maybe seven weeks depending on the client, because I really like to work with people and work where they are If they need extra time. I really like to work with people and work where they are. If they need extra time, I'm willing to do that. But it's a six-week program where every week we meet once a week and we talk about one letter of the word focus. So the first week normally is just an introduction getting to know each other, writing out some money goals, what you want to get out of the program, things like that. Then the second week we start diving in with the F, which is face it, want to get out of the program, things like that. Then the second week we start diving in with the F, which is face it. Face your finances, face your issue, your circumstance, how'd you get here? Why'd you get here? It's a lot of mind work and face it okay.

Speaker 3:

And then O is organize. That's the budgeting, that's the organizing, the money planning, setting goals again, how are we going to get there? What do you want to accomplish? Things like that. Then C again is the communication Dive real deep into communicating, what we should be communicating and how to communicate with your family and your loved ones.

Speaker 3:

And then the? U is understanding your finances. This really goes into the vocabulary what it means, what assets mean, what interest mean, what annual yield mean, all those type of things understanding your finances. And then the S at the end is just success. How are you going to see success in your finances? Where you will be? If you set these things into place, if you take action plans, go by your plan, live the plan, execute the plan, you will see success in your finances. And then so, at the end of the program that's my hope is that I have given you action steps that you can take right now and then continue it on. And then, of course, we are a partner. We collaborating now ready, set, collaborate. I don't just leave you. I'm one of them people that I wanna be like family. We are partners in your financial situation because things change right. So as time goes along, you can still be able to contact me and say, lisa, this has changed what you think about this, ask me questions and just be like a family affair.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it. You got to send me those so I can put it in the show notes for them to get focused and what they each means. But this has been awesome. I tell you I really enjoyed this because you really gave a lot of information to our audience and I suggest people to definitely connect with you to talk about more as far as what you're doing, because it does matter, and this day and age today does matter because you do want to leave a legacy. So thank you so much for being on Ready Set Collaborate, but tell us how they can get in touch with you.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely so. My website is lisastringerbaileycom. You can catch me there. I'm on all the social medias at Lisa Stringer Bailey or Triple M Money Management Matters. I also have a YouTube channel, money Management Matters. I also have a YouTube channel, money Management Matters. You can catch me there. Every week I do a broadcast on Monday evenings called Monday Money Motivation. So I very much like to motivate people in their money. Like I said, I do use the Bible. I use scripture to back up what I'm saying, to let people know that God cares about you and he cares about your money. And God wants us to be prosperous, he wants us to be abundant, he don't want us to be poor, even though the Bible does say there will always be poor among you. If you get your mind, if you focus, you ain't got to be the poor among us. Okay, you could be the rich, you could be the rich, you could be the abundant, you can be the wealthy. So that's my hope and prayer.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it how you bring that all into a little nutshell. But no, it really does matter as far as how we focus in on what's important and legacy. I always talk about the legacy matters because you have family that you want to leave it to. You want to have family, that you want them to pick up things, that you're teaching them as they go along.

Speaker 3:

But thank you, Lisa for being on the I was going to say Money Management Show.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to speak it into existence, honey. That's what I'm talking about, collaboration. But thank you for being on the Ready Set Collaborate podcast Audience. I really strongly suggested you share and subscribe because it's going to be on YouTube as well, on my channel, ready Set Collaborate podcast. We're Ready Set Collaborate with Wanda Pearson and that way you can see all of the episodes that I have. I have some great guests, such as Lisa, that actually can teach you something. I'm about educating and empowering. Lisa's about educating and empowering. So thank you once again, lisa, for being on the Ready Set Collaborate podcast.

Speaker 3:

You're welcome. Thank you for having me. You all have a great day.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

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