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54: Catching Up - Boston, Florida, Overconsumption and the Environment, Butterball Turkeys, and Nurse Hannah
Hello and welcome back. This is Hannah and Kalissa and Sarah. Um, and we are rolling on this very cold morning. Is this the first time we've met since in December? Mm hmm. Okay. You know, the months are like just flying by. They really are. It's really, oh geez. I made the podcast schedule like back in October and I was like, wow, December. Who's going to think about December? And it's like here. Time just goes too fast. Mm hmm. Oh my gosh. Well, we've got lots to discuss today. Yeah, we're just gonna do like a catch up Um and everything. I think last time we talked I was at san diego And this time I was in boston It's pretty fun boston. I didn't hear any accents really. Oh, really? No interesting Yeah, did you were you talking to like native bostonians or were you talking to other people? um I was just among the crowd I guess and because uh, my mother I took my mother in law You This time and So we had a about half a day to kind of explore the town. So I'm like, let's go to the Salem witch Yeah That would have been cool. It sounded cool. But like the way they did it it it was just storytelling through mannequins Mmm, I don't know. That's like that episode of Gilmore Girls. If you've ever seen it, okay Well, Taylor creates a museum about like Stars Hollows founding It's just all like janky mannequins from like the 70s. Uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, uh huh. Oh, funny. Yeah, so we did that and um, I didn't really hear any accents there. And our Uber drivers, they were all Dominican Republic? Hm. They all there. Which I only say because my father in law, he's just so much on TikTok and he's like, In the far right scare mind and he's like you girls don't go walking down the street because They've got a bunch of dominican gangs and they're just gonna go up and just stab you. Oh, that's scary And we're like michael, we'll be just fine But we did a lot of dominican uber drivers. They're super nice. Yeah, and they only lived in the states for like a year or two So they still had an accent But really nice drove like crazy everyone in boston drives like crazy the honking is ridiculous You Oh gosh. Honking makes me so nervous. No, like it was like, it wasn't just like Bebe, like it was just concept. And I'm like, why do people honk so much? And he, did your Uber driver honk? No. No. Okay. He was just, he just went with the flow. He was like kind of making me seasick because we were going up wind roads. Were you taking in and out of traffic and stuff? Yes. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, can you slow down I didn't say anything, but I just, the honking was ridiculous. Mm-hmm And I'm like, Ugh. I don't like that. That gives me anxiety. But the show itself was really good. Um, this was their third show in the tour. So they had all their lines, they knew what to say. Um, the crowd gets super obnoxious. Like they just want to like join in on every like hidden joke. Or like, Yeah, what's it called a hidden joke? It's inside joke inside joke. Yeah. Yeah, and they just yell all the time And like to the point where they can't carry on the show Yeah, kind of or like none of the guys can tell their story because the fans are just screaming at them Why? just an inside joke or They're like Yeah, I agree with you or I don't know something like that But this time necessary I was like, well don't You know, cuz when you guys give in and you guys like, what do you say? Yeah, and they're then they're all gonna start screaming at you. Yeah. So the only time they did that was when Connor, King Trout, he would just look at the crowd and be like, shut the fuck up everybody. But the crowd eats it, they love it. Yeah, they they know that's them and they're like, yeah, he just told us to shut the fuck up. I'm like, yeah, be quiet. Listen to it. Yeah. So this was a really good show. Um, and then my friend, Zach, Zachary Bell, veteran with a sign. He's like, Hey, they're gonna do some crowd work. Let's go backstage because the show will end and I don't want you to be like surrounded by people again. And that was way better. Yeah. So we got to be backstage while, um, angry cops, Richard was going through the crowd. And he's so, he, I mean, that's his internet personality. He's just mean to people's appearance. Like I think he looked at one person and was like, you look like you sleep with this apnea machine or something. Like you're a walking apnea machine or something. And I'm like, Oh my God. Like I, I just, but people were like, yeah, that's him. That's how he is. And I'm like, I cry. Yeah, I would too. No. Yeah, and he'll like say other like, offensive stuff too. Oh my gosh. So. So overall better experience than San Diego. Yeah, because I think I knew what I was getting myself into. And yeah, I was like, yep, I'm ready to go backstage. So, hide. Yeah. And your mother in law, how did she do with all of it? She loved it. Good. She was taking pictures, snapchatting everything. Yeah. She's very social. So I could imagine that she would really take a picture of the door because I don't know the door to the auditorium. I don't know. Just taking pictures like crazy and yeah, just living it up. Nice. Nice. And no edibles this time. No, I thought about it, but I'm like, I probably shouldn't. I don't think Brandy would have wanted to take care of you. So, right. Right. I don't know. I don't know. But I was like, no, I'll be sober. Yes. That's funny. How about you? What did you do in the beginning of December? I'm mostly done with Christmas shopping. Woohoo! Need to get some pajamas. Just ordered Craig's present this morning. Oooh. Yeah. Does he listen? Can you tell us what it is? Oh, no, he doesn't listen. Um, he wants earbuds, earbuds with a clip, so they clip to your ear. Oh, yeah. Huh? So that they don't fall off. Yes. And they don't go directly into your ear hole I don't think so then you don't get like the hearing issues that a lot of your buds cause air, but Just like Oh what brand the bows one and he for sure like those have ones that clip on you So he's gonna wear him to the farm. So I was gonna get him bows, but I know they're very expensive and I'm certain He's gonna lose them. So I got kind of the next actually higher rated No, no, they clip onto your like outside of shell. I'll show you of your ear I like my beats fit pro. They almost look like a, um, what I have beats fit pro, like a chip clip. Yeah. They like clip onto your hair. Let me, interesting. They look like, sorry guys for everybody. Not, I'll put it in the Instagram. Yeah, this. So they go out like on your outside shell and clip into your, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he wanted those cause he's his air. I got him air pods. He loved air pods. He used them like for a whole summer and they didn't fall out and they fell out and he lost them. So now he was casually mentioning that he wanted air pods again, but he wants them to clip on his ear. He could get air pod chains. I've been considering. Oh really? Yeah. Why is it, why do they fall out of the ear? Is it because their ear is too small? My ear holes are tiny. Yeah. And they just don't fit. Well, why wouldn't they just like, you know. I don't, some people can wear AirPods. I know. And it's no issue, and I just can't. I can't. Love AirPods. And they fit snugly in your ear. I just don't get it. I tried all of the little like, little thingies that like go on there. Ears, yeah. And none of them fit. Yeah, they all pop out and it pisses me off. Yep, it makes me really annoyed. So I've been considering getting a little chain for the ends. Yeah. Do you have AirPods though? I do, yeah. You do, so that would be a good way to adapt them. Yeah. So that's what Craig's getting. And then we decided against Nintendo switch. Oh shoot. Why? Yeah. For this year. Um, cause we're going to Florida. So that's going to be our extra family present. I think honestly, yeah. Yeah. Boys will see the ocean right on the airplane. It's a direct flight out of Cedar Rapids. Nice. That'll be great. What airline? Uh, Allegiant. I don't know if they have free movies. Nope. They don't have any in air flight. An iPad or something. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was nice about Delta. You just bring your own earphone, your headphones and they have almost every movie, every kid show. Nice. But, uh, I thought cutter would enjoy looking out the window. Like I look out the window and be like, shut it. Can't watch my movie. Like I didn't even get to be, I don't remember my first airplane ride. So I was like, what, 20? Yeah. I was in second grade and I got so motion sick. I slept the whole time because I was just bomb. Oh, terrible. That's awful. Are you still pretty sick when you fly? Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like any shift or like turbulence or like the, you know how some people really like that feeling when you're on a roller coaster, like in your stomach. Yeah. No, it makes me like want to puke. So it's not good. That's a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a good traveler. What part of Florida? Fort Lauderdale. Oh, I haven't been there. Is that in the top part? Nope. It's by Miami. Okay. So it's down below. Yeah. Okay. Where are you staying? Airbnb hotel? Airbnb. Right next to the beach. You can like cook if you want to, like totally be on your own. Oh, that's so nice. Airbnbs, are they supposed to like just leave food in the pantry for you to eat or are all of them different rules? Sometimes they have cookware, but I would imagine you bring your own food grocery. Yeah, they have all like forks, knives, toaster, microwave I was looking at a hotel But then I was like do I really want to be in a hotel room for five days with my kids? Like that's way too. You have to worry about being loud and like. They add on a microwave fee. Yeah Like you have to rent a microwave. And like unless they have breakfast It's really not worth it because at least then you get one meal You No, but, and we're right next to, um, Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville resort. So you can buy a day pass to the resort and use all of their pools and their private beach. Awesome. How long are you going? Is it like a five day thing? Five days, Monday through Friday. That's great. That's perfect. Yeah. I'm super pumped. So way cooler than a Nintendo switch. Oh heck yeah. That's like memories for him. Well, except for, for the youngest one. But there'll be pictures. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You guys can go again in like five years when he can remember. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be fun. And when are you going? End of February. Oh good. That's a good time. So I'm super pumped. Yes. I was, I haven't been on a, so I went to Puerto Rico, but that was a mission trip. Sure. Um, we went to Orlando, but we didn't really see the beach at all because Orlando isn't really by a beach. No, it's Disney World, right? It's like center land world world land is California. Yes. Do you know how you know LA LA is in Disneyland. So Los Angeles. Disney world has O R Orlando. Oh, cool. So now you'll never forget it. Cause I've always got them confused. Yeah. I'll never forget helpful tip. I saw that on tick tock. Did you see that on tick tock? She's on Florida tick tock right now. Joined a group on Facebook. This is a really good advice too. If you are going somewhere, join their. Facebook group. Um, like you like adventure land has a Facebook group and it has all of like the insider tips and trips. Yeah. Um, Fort Lauderdale has like, if you're vacationing in Fort Lauderdale, they have a Facebook group that you can join and ask all of your questions and like the locals are in there and they'll answer your questions. Or if you have Reddit too, like don't forget to search Reddit in case there's crazy people or like, you know, yeah, yeah. Use your resources people. Yeah. Lemme if we see any, uh, loofahs in cars or outside of cars, what does that mean? It's like codes. Code for what? Like is it a pineapple thing? Yes. Oh, so it's like a sex thing? Yeah. Oh, nasty. Mm-hmm Fort Lauderdale. Is that a retirement area? I don't think so. I think that's where like,'cause it's close to Miami. So Miami brings, that's more like tourist. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Where's all the retirement people go? I don't know, but that's why I was like, is that why? Because it's a bunch of retired people, like just. around. Nasty. I'd rather be that than like gang violence. Oh God. I don't know. Either one is a no, no for me personally. But yeah. Uh, and Boston, there was like this man at the bar cause Brandy, she likes to drink. So she was getting some drinks and he just like kept looking at me like up and down and everything. And I'm like, quit looking at me grandpa. And he kept trying to like make conversation and everything. Um, And then she went down a second time and he just looked over, where's your friend at? She had to tell him, I'm a grandma, that's my daughter. And I'm like, yeah, just, just don't even bother. Don't talk to people that you don't know. And she did pretty good, but um, cause Nathan, he obviously would have, blah, blah, blah. She could pick up like cues cause she'd look at me and like give a look and I'm like, yeah, quit talking to him. Like, get out of here. Your gut is correct. Yeah, she knows. I feel like that's just like a lady thing. Ladies know that stuff. Yeah. Nathan's just chatty Kathy. He is. What about you, Sarah? Yeah. You would just, Oh, you know more than I do. No. You had an anniversary. Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. How many years? 10 years. Woohoo! Nice. I didn't know you had a December anniversary. We do. Actually, Cutter's birthday. Did you have good weather? Really? December 10th. Really? Okay. Um, I don't remember. What was that, Tuesday? It was fine. Yeah. It wasn't as bad as it was today. I mean like, on the year you got married. Oh! Oh gosh. I didn't know if it would be snow. It was really cold, but it wasn't snowy at all. Okay. Cool. Yeah, it was very windy and cold, but. Otherwise it was fine. Oh my gosh. Itchy ear. Um, it's definitely weird out here. We talk very, yeah. So just for context, I took my headphones off and we're like all talking like it's weird. I like the headphones better yourself really well. You don't have to talk that loud. Yeah. It's way different. Yeah. Other than that, not a lot. Did you ever tell people like a, your wedding? What does that mean? Like your, Like how you got married? Oh, sometimes if people ask, I guess. I don't know if we've ever talked about it on here. We, I got married in a courthouse. Calvin and I decided to get married on a Friday and then my mom had Wednesday afternoons off. She was like half days on Wednesdays. So we were like, that would probably be the best day. So we decided to get married like the next Wednesday. So Friday we got engaged. We decided, yeah, let's get married. And then Wednesday we got married. So there's like four days in between or five days or whatever it was. So how old were you? Um, I had just turned 21. Calvin was 20. Us youngins. Yep. Babies getting married. Did you have a house then too? Yeah, we bought our house. Um, we were house hunting I think at that point, but we didn't buy, we didn't, Clothes on her. My parents have taken me to go buy rocks countless times. I don't know what was my parents. I was trying to put my phone on silent cause it's going crazy in my pocket. But then I remembered I'm kind of like on call for spammers for the Facebook page, because we're doing a giveaway right now and giveaways like. Cause tons of spammers and scammers. So I was like, my phone's going crazy. I'm like, Oh God, is there a scammer? So I had to look at it quick. And then I hit play on my podcast. That's talking about rock collections. I was really on that side of tech talk for a while. I was watching people rock collecting. Yeah. Find geodes and they were like polishing rocks and they were finding all kinds of cool rocks. You should get that. One thing is pretty rock tumbler, rock tumbler. Yeah. I actually really considered it for the kids. They used to bring rocks home like crazy. So I considered it. I think my mom actually maybe still has one, but. What's that Tiktok sound? I would visit her again. Yeah, you're coming home with me. It's like kids that find a cool rock. We would, we should, anytime that we would visit my sister, I feel like we should just need to go rock hunting. Cause they live in Decorah. Decorah. Where there's a ton of like good streams and all that kind of, rivers and all that kind of stuff, so. Yeah. That'd be cool. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah. So yeah, you and Calvin married for 10 years? Oh yeah, yep, yep. Did you do anything? I forgot what I was saying before. You were buying a house? Oh, you were in the process of buying a house? Yeah, so we were house hunting before when we got married and then we found our house like two days before christmas or something like that and then closed Like I think just before the beginning of january So we've been in our house now almost 10 years, too. Wow. Yeah, pretty crazy But your house paid off. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah Well, it was it's a big flex bless my grammy because she died and left us the money to that That we were able to pay off the rest of our house. I thought it was inheritance. Yeah. Because my dad's dead, so then we split his inheritance between my sister and I. Oh. So that's why. Okay. Yeah. Because she has a lot of, she had four kids, so the other three all got their share. Oh. And then Catherine and I split my dad's. Oh. So, yeah. I see, I see. Yeah. Gotcha. And it was just like within like 2, 000 of the price of our house being paid off. Yeah, we were like, let's just do it. Yeah, and it's been really nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is a pretty big flex It is. Bless my Grammy for doing that. Yeah, I mean not her for dying, but like just Whatever, you know what I'm saying? When one door closes, another door opens. Exactly. Yeah, that's really sad way to put it. But yeah, that's kind of Yeah, that's how, uh, facts of life. That's true. That is true. Cause we got money. Cause my mom, she gave us some Christmas money, but I think it's, where does it come from again? SSI? I don't know. Social security income from your dad. Maybe. Cause she's not 70. Is she? So she probably takes the social security. Okay. Yeah. So she was just like, you know, don't, don't go telling around how much people gave you because, and then she like started crying and was like, you know, we worked really hard for you guys. And so like you're, you're given this money, but it's like. Yeah, the cost was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Catherine and I both got social security income because we were kids obviously like after my dad died, so That's like how part of how we went to college because he was dead and so his income paid for part of our college. Yeah, so Yeah I don't know It's hard because there's a lot of faults with social security and all that kind of stuff and I get why people hate it and different facets of that but also It was really helpful for us. So I don't know. I know it's tough. I should question the system, but I don't know the system. I know. I don't know a lot about it. I just know that there are people who are like very against it and very for it. So like there's no, there's not a lot of middle ground. It seems like from what I've heard. I feel like there's just so much research that you have to do within all of it. And I just, we need Nick to be here right now to talk to us about it. He's probably going to listen to this and be like, he will not listen to this, but maybe we should tell him about it. Oh my goodness. Yeah, because he went on a rant about Social Security on his friend Zachary's podcast. Yeah I'm like, you know what? I'll just leave that to you. Yeah, I'm not even gonna worry about it. Yeah Until it's time. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I had a lot to talk about Hannah had a whole list of stuff. Yes, actually we were kind of discussing one of the things before you got here Yeah Um, what's that documentary called? Buy Now. Buy Now. Documentary on Netflix. So it's like overconsumption? Yes. I watched half of it. You did? What'd you think? Were you scared? I was scared. I'm super scared. Like, it's so much easier for me to not think about the effects of the overconsumption. That's what I had on my nose. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Dude, I would just tell Sarah. We've kind of touched on overconsumption as a topic like a little bit before, but this Is the documentary specifically that Hannah watched. So yeah. And you watched, yes, most of it, half of it, I watched the whole thing. And I was scared out of my mind. Like I was having like a breakdown when Nick and I went out to eat. Cause I'm like, I'm going to stop shaving because I'm going to stop buying all these plastic reusable things and everything. And Nick's like, you know, I have a stainless steel razor that never goes bad. Like, yeah, just change the blades. And I'm like, no, that's, you have to change the blade. So then that blade. It's going to go somewhere on some other beach and it's going to ruin everything. So I do really worry about fast fashion. Yes. Yes. Did you see the clip? Cause I saw it on Tik TOK and we were talking about it in Ghana. You said, right? Yeah. I mean, all of these beaches in the third world country, which is crazy. It's super sad. It is. Yeah. And like they, and the fact that big corporations, they like pay under the table to a shipping container, like, Hey, take all this crash. And just throw it somewhere. We don't care. In another country, in a third world country somewhere. And the, the clothes are just ruined because they're on the beaches. They're sandy. They're gross. Yeah. I'm like, why can't we just donate them? There are tons of homeless. There are tons of like other countries who could use things. I'm not saying that, that they want to wear like bikinis, like crazy stuff, but they have nothing and they would appreciate anything. Yeah. But the fact that we just have to destroy and ruin all these clothes and just litter their land. That like, things are so expensive that. That's some people's only option is to buy these fast fashion things like it's a really hard Oh, there's just pros and cons. It's really difficult. Yeah. And I don't know what started fast fashion cause we didn't have that growing up. Did we? No. Uh, well there definitely weren't. Not as much. I don't think at least. What really makes me sick is the halls. Yeah. When they throw all the bags and they pile them like all the way up and it's like it's returned. That's my entire wardrobe. Right, right there. You just bought. I mean at least a thousand dollars worth of stuff that half of what you're going to return And where do those returns go? You see people open like oh, these are you can buy a pallet of returns. Yep Yep, and then they go and sometimes that's helpful store. That's what they do They buy the amazon returns and then they just throw it in these big old tubs and people can just buy them for cheap Yeah Which is I guess that's like a nice way to reuse it. Yeah, but It still hits on overconsumption. The fact that there's that much trash and they have to create these companies to resell their trash. Yeah, it still hits on the overconsumption thing because people then wait and they go to these places instead. And I've been to these stores and some of the stuff I'm like, who the hell would want to buy this? Yeah. And it's something stupid. Yeah. But there's someone out there who would want that. That's like people who, okay, and this, I also feel like it's a twofold thing, but people who buy stuff specifically for reviewing, I I don't know if you're on that side of like Tik Tok or anything where they're like, I'm going to give my real opinion about this because usually it's like you, like mostly sponsored content or they're getting a commission from their Amazon link. So they're like, Oh yes, I love it. Yes. Yes. So then like people who are not affiliated by it and they're like, is this actually worth it? Well that goes with like anybody with anything when they're like, right. You used to trust these influencers. You really used to trust their like, yeah, I really trust you. But then You click on that link they get paid I'll tell you where that started with makeup at least because that's where I was when this started for me was the Morphe Yeah, back in the day Morphe Morphe Morphe Morphe now Morphe's broke Yeah They filed for bankruptcy and they owe Jeffrey Starr like one million and James Charles Charles 2. 2 or something Louise Louise I don't know why because they filed for bankruptcy No, but when they still owe these people debt from their collaborations. Oh, she's Yeah. It's sick. See, but that's like, that's what I'm saying. You can't trust people because they made so much money off of their product. Mm hmm. So yeah, if I ever recommend something like on the blog or anything like that, you truly, truly like it. Yes. Yeah. It's like I found this and it has changed my life. Right. Yeah. Yep. That's, I'm always weary of buying things specifically for that reason. Yeah. Gadgety stuff. Well, and the things that when you would buy expensive clothes is because you were buying for quality and they were supposed to last. Right. And then me and Sarah were talking off camera before Calista got in, you know, When you bought a phone, you could replace the battery, and it'd still be, yeah, and then it'd still be fine. We're talking about when you could slide the back off of, that's what you were saying. Yeah. Cause I know, I had Samsung, and I'm buying. Motorola Electrify. Yep, exactly. But you could, instead of buying a new phone, just change the battery, and it's good. Now it's just gotten to a point like, nope, throw the whole phone away, get a new phone. Calvin worked at a cell phone company for a long, a handful of years, six years or something, and when his grandpa was still alive, they were talking, they would talk about this all the time because he was an avid flip phone user. Mm hmm. Like the basic flip phone. And so he was always like, I think my battery's not working anymore. Is there a place that I can buy a battery? And Calvin's like, dude, good luck. Like, people don't even do that anymore because it's just, yeah, almost impossible. Yeah, because these companies made it impossible. Yeah, and that was years ago. Yeah. Yeah, because I think I don't know when Apple got sued for doing that. It was a handful of years ago now, I think. Yeah, but it's still like when you bought something, you were buying it for it to last, the quality. But then people like Apple were specifically slowing the devices down so that you had to upgrade and buy new ones. They quit changing, you know, you couldn't slide the back off anymore and change the battery. They quit doing that. And then, yeah, the updates. Anytime you updated, your phone would go crap, and then, oh, new phone. Mm hmm. Here's a new iPhone. I thought there was stuff, too, about, like, the microchips for a while, too, right? Um. Or there was, like, something with the microchips was, they changed something so that you, they, like, couldn't be replaced, and you had to get something. I don't know. That could be totally wrong, but. But this guy and the documentary, he was putting something in like old technology, like laptops and computers and he would track to see where they would go. And they ended up somewhere in a third world country. And these people were just dissembling them and taking them apart. But they had to wear these masks because it was so toxic. Cause it's lithium. They have lithium batteries. Those are the ones that explode, right? Yeah. So you see these people on their hands and knees, like dissembling all of them, sell stuff. I don't know what they were doing. But he's like, Oh, that's where they're going. And he's like, you know, you think you're throwing it away to throw it away, but no, but just get sent somewhere else. Yeah. It does make me sick. It's so much easier to not think about it. I know that sounds very privileged of me to say, but. And because we can, because like, they're not dumping. It's not here. It's not here. We don't see it. If they were to dump it here, there'd be riots. Yeah. Yeah. And be like, no. But we talked about too, before you got here, like, I was only eight minutes late, you guys. I was a couple minutes early, so I got here like right when she did. Yeah. Um, but we talked about, um, I forgot what I was going to say. Sorry. You guys covered a lot of topics while I was gone. Yeah. Oh, we talked about how like One person's impact versus like if it was a global change. Yeah, like a country I was like fighting in my head like how the hell am I supposed to stop it? Like because there's plastic all around us and um, I'm like, how can one person do this change? But the point of the documentary is to make everyone aware Yeah, but at least it's a wide scale like knowledge, you know, cuz there's tons of people that don't know Yep, and so that's the point The reason why it's probably a good thing to bring this up is because when I try to go shopping because usually I go Into tj maxx and i'd be like, oh look at this. Look at this. Look at this, right now. It's like, oh my gosh Why are they making this like this is junk? This is like This isn't gonna last and so yeah, my mind has totally changed when I go into a store now, like Um, even like target they have their dollar stuff. Yep. I'm like this little trash. Yep. Like it's not quality Mm hmm You buy it for what you, you pay what you get. Yeah, this is, this kind of reminds me of this time of year. People who decorate from like the dollar store or from the dollar spot at Target. And it's just so you can change your decorations every year, which I totally understand. But then you throw it away cause you're done with it. And it's like junkie. So then where does it go? A scary quote. Um, I think it was a set on tech talk. Everything you've owned in your lifetime, it's still on this planet. Oh shit. Like everything you've ever owned. Yeah. It's still left. It's still here. Diet coke cup that you've ever drank from. Oh my gosh. It's still here. That's why I don't understand why people have like Everyone's like, oh, Stanley really saves the environment because you know mm-hmm Well, and they keep it, keep using it. And it's like, well, when you have 20 Stanley's. Yeah. Right. Like that doesn't see, that's still over. Consumption doesn't help. That's why I don't get, and this is no shade to anyone that does this, but this is why I don't get people who collect like travel cups. Mm-hmm I get, I have four, I have two plastic ones that I use for water like that are smaller. And then I have two big, like water bottles and that's it. Yeah. They're in a rotation so that when I wash one, I still have the other. You know what I mean? So yeah, but I think the mindset is totally cups The mindset is different because I think some influencers like oh, I don't need 40 stanleys. Let's get rid of some So she got rid of them and then she's like i'm getting brumate So silly, I just don't get it. Yeah, I did hear good things about brumate recently though I do like the fact that the straws are rubber So like because my kids like to drink out of my and they don't chew them then You Well, they haven't chewed, but like, I'm afraid they're going to like, Oh, hit their teeth or their teeth or their upper mouth. Although they're not clear. So what if you get a spider in there? Sarah? I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Again, it's easier to not think about that. Well, my plastic ones that I have that I take like to work and stuff, I make sure that they're, the straws are clear so I can see if something crawls inside there. My water bottles have the folding. So that things don't get inside there. Cause it creeps me out. Some people have like little lids that they put on their stand. Yeah, that was so cute. But then I'm like, how many are they going to make? And then they're like litter all over them. It's just, you know, I want to be in the Christmas spirit, but it's like, Oh man, like it's just hard to think about that stuff. Yeah. Partially why we don't really buy gifts for our kids because they just, they're, they're not old enough to appreciate things the way that, We do as adults and we've just already gone through so many stages of purging things that I'm just like, I don't want to buy more for them to not more, more play with after like a week. You know what really freaks me out? Diapers. Yeah, I know. That's why people do cloth diapers. But that's like, what do you do with that cloth diaper? That's, there's a lot of people who reuse them for rags and stuff like that. But, well, if you clean them properly, then they don't, they won't be like gross and stuff, but. Yeah. Yup. The diapers. Oh. Every single diaper I've touched is still on this planet. Yup. Just buried underneath somewhere. And are there cloth diapers for older people? You absolutely could do it. Yeah. There are. In the nursing home. Really? Yeah. People make cloth pads and stuff for periods. I'm sure that people do it for diapers. They, um, in the nursing home I worked at in New Hampton, they still use, if you, usually families supply them, but if you're like title 19 and you don't have anybody, um, Um, that supplies them for you, then we have cloth diapers that they use, which they just don't work as well. You have to be very diligent about certain aspects of them. Oh my gosh. Now I'm thinking about all of the adult diapers that I've touched that are still on this planet. Yeah. And I, I told this to Sarah cause I was like crying, not crying, but I was like, Nick, why can't they just burn everything? And he's like, you really want all that stuff going in the air and then we have to breathe it in. And I'm like. True. I think everyone should just wear a gas mask for like the next 10 years and we should just get rid of everything. Yeah. It's just like a 24 seven gas mask. Oh, we are not going to solve this problem on this podcast, but it is what I'm thinking about. I'm just saying, it was an interesting topic. It is. And I did see that stuff on TikTok. So I've switched to, um, two different face. I bought a facial oil cleanser, and then I've been using. Beef tallow for moisturizer. Oh, nice. Mm hmm. I feel like it's made of I was gonna say your skin looks great. Thanks, except for this cuz I was picking at it really well. That's what we have stickers for, it's fine. Yeah. I have a pimple on my chin for those who can't see. Um, but now I'm like, I really like this, these two things. And I got gifted a bunch of beef tallow. Yeah, that's awesome. But the thing is that's nice quality. I can re I can take that jar and like, here you go. Can you just refill it? And she'll just use that same jar. Oh nice. Oh, do you buy local from somebody? Yeah. She's local in Charles city. But i'm sure there's someone here too. Yeah, but the fact that they're like, oh, yeah I just bring your jar in and I can just refill it. You'll have to give me her name I will yeah um But then I look at all my Skincare quote unquote stuff that's just there's so much junk in it. It's junk and i'm like can't throw it away because that's gonna I was just talking actually to someone that we know who's an esthetician And she was saying that my skin looks nice lately because I had seen her like a year ago for something else And um I was like, yeah, the less I do, the better it is, like wash it every once in a while, moisturize, done. Yeah. What do you use? Um, I use, Oh, what's your skin type? Dry combination. Okay. And then what's your facial cleanser? I use like an oil based makeup remover and then I usually use I mean really good things about like the facial oils in general. Instead of like the exfoliating, you're like just tearing your skin opening. They use VaniCream. VaniCream. Yeah, and they use their face wash and their moisturizer. Yeah, VaniCream. Heard good things about them. They're relatively clean for Yeah, what they are. I wash my face in the shower. With like water? Mm hmm. That's totally cool. That's the end of my skincare routine. You don't moisturize? Moisturize? Really? Your skin doesn't like suck up and like get dry? Don't you have well water? Yeah. You should definitely moisturize. Do you see, am I dry? I don't know, are you? What's your skin type? I'm oily. Swedish. German? Like you don't feel like you're like dry? If I'm sometimes dry, I have like um, I have a crunchy moisturizer. Okay. That's the brand. They're like a makeup brand that's supposedly, um, clean, clean beauty. Yeah. I don't know how much I believe that. I know because in the documentary that you're talking about green lies. Yeah. Yeah. And this lady, she walked in the grocery store and she said, yep, all these things that say recyclable are not like, let's look at your McDonald's cup because I tried to recycle it and then the city wouldn't take it because they're like, this isn't recyclable. Yeah. The lid or the cup? Oh, the whole thing. Oh, well, I still put them in there. And I'm like, really? Because Nick buys so much and I buy so much Starbucks and I can't even like, I thought I'd like, you know, help out. You should buy, that's the one time where like, if you're an avid coffee buyer from places, like if you have a reusable cup, then I would say. But how does that work in the drive thru? You, I would say probably what I would do is I would tell them, hey, I have a reusable cup. Can I pull it when I get up to the window? Can you, Use my reusable cup. I would probably discuss it with them beforehand. I don't know if they can do that. Cause like even, I know cabin did for a long time, even like get a discount, you get 5 percent discount if you brought your own cup, patient water pitchers, you're not supposed to bring it to like the the fountain. You're supposed to like bring a pitcher to the room. Does it have to do with germs? Yes. Contamination. So I don't know if they can use your own cup. Yeah. They did. They used to at cabin. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know if they've stopped. And is cabin, uh, global? It's a, I doubt it. It's a franchise. But I don't know if it's just like Midwest or what. Right. Cause Starbucks, they're like Global, yeah. Who knows. But like, I think I'd be a little weary. But they also sell cups. They sell their own cups, so honestly it would kind of surprise me if they didn't allow the use of their own cups. Depends on like the hygienics of it. Like, oh let me touch your nasty cup. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I would ask. Because Nick, he never used to wash his coffee pot. Why? Because it's seasoned. Builds character. It's like, um, Cast iron pans. It just like, you know. It had flavor in it. Yeah, it's flavorized. And one time I washed it, because I'm like, this thing is nasty! And I like, you know, cleaned it, it was shining, and he's like, what'd you do to this? And I'm like, My dad was the same way. So yeah, a lot of his coffee mugs are like, stained, but he likes it like Starbucks drinker. I know. He's weird about his coffee. It's just black coffee. It's just black coffee. Yeah, but he gets like two in the morning and then he gets two in the afternoon. He gets something like that. But he says Starbucks has the best black coffee. And I'm like, uh, there's other coffee places too. I am a little surprised you guys moved further away from Starbucks. Not that I told him. I said that. I'm like, we're not going to go to Hy Vee. That's like not that far. That's like five minutes. But he's got to go in. Oh, he's a drive thru person. He likes the drive thru. I forgot. And they literally, he pulls up, Hi Nick! Same thing! Yup. I'm like, nice. Can they see you on the drive thru? Yeah, they have a little camera. Why don't they buy, why doesn't he buy coffee grounds from Starbucks and make his own? I think he did, and he just said it didn't taste the same. Oh. I don't know. He's the coffee nerd. I'm just like, eh, coffee, gross. Yeah, I don't get it personally. Um. I had overconsumption So the holidays did any of you guys eat turkey? Yes For the big old turkey leg. For Thanksgiving? Yeah. Do you know what brand you got it from? Oh, I have no idea Hy Vee, my mom got it. Don't buy Butterball. I'm just kidding. Why what was up with the Butterball thing? Cuz I saw that on there and I was like what's going on? They were being Assaulted who were turkey? Oh, yeah. I think I didn't hear about that. The workers were like doing naughty things Naughty things to these apparently that's very common But this I mean this has been 10 years ago. This has been happening since 2006 yeah, and of someone that came forward and he like Anonymous, he was like, I'm just gonna speak out against butterball. I've seen things And they do nothing to like, to these workers. But then someone from Butterball is like, I worked at Butterball. These are not Butterball employees that are doing these to these turkeys. It's just hangers. I think live hangers. That's what they call these people that are supposed to kill them. They're like a third party person. Yeah, and just, they're supposed to de feather them. Kill them, de feather them, and hang them. For the blood. Gets the blood out. But they're not butterball employees, it's what's that called when it's a third party? They're like contract workers, basically. Yeah. Yeah, so they're like it's not butterball. It's these contract workers So then I remember pita they would always talk about how cows were assaulted and All these other poor Animals that are being i'm not surprised people are disgusting. They are i'm so surprised really not. Oh my god It was we are horrifying Race of people. Yeah. Men. I'm just kidding. Not everyone. Well, it's not women doing things. It's not just men. Well, but it, honestly, it's not just men. Women are gross, too. Oh, yeah. Like, we're all disgusting. Yeah. Um, so, yeah. I, and then I just thought, so, that was happening in the Butterball, and then I remember hearing all these other stories, like, I think her name was Polly the Orangutan. Super sad. Yeah. Yeah. Orangutan that was just used for prostitution for these palm oil farmers. You know what? Orangutans can literally kill you. But no, she got her as a baby and conditioned her. Oh. And conditioned her to be like this. That's sad. Yeah. So then when they finally rescued her, she was, she was shaven every day. Every single day. Shaven, shaven, sh ugh. So these farmers could just, that's disgusting. Assault her. And then she grew her hair back. She was healthy, she was living her life. And she saw the madam. I think that's what they're called. Yeah. Um, the madam came in just to see her, and this orangutan went literally ape shit. She was like, scream, like throwing a tantrum, screaming. Throwing her feces at the madam. She's like get this woman away from me. Like yeah, if an orangutan could talk. Yeah So these workers are like, all right, let's arrest this madam because she's obviously this orangutan is obviously scared of her. Yeah You know how I do like a summary of all the things we talked about in the episode That's not gonna go on there. I did not expect bestiality We don't do that. That's gonna get us like We're not monetized, but demonetized. Yeah, trigger warning. But, uh, yeah, I just, the holidays. So I was talking about over consumption and then butterball turkeys, cause that was everywhere in my feed. Because all these people, they saw a butterball turkey in their fridge and these women would just cry and hug this poor turkey. Like, I'm so sorry. I think I saw one thing about that, but it wasn't my whole feed. It was my whole feed of butterball turkeys. And I'm like, dang. So I asked people, I'm like, what are you making for your holidays? And they're like, just a ham. And I'm like, pass. I mean, that's a good pass. Like Sure. I mean, I'm sure it happens to pigs too. Oh, I know. Just saying. Yeah. Well I know where my pigs come from, so. Yeah. True. Yeah. We're having ham. A good poor thing, a good old res view ham, so I don't care for ham. Prefer a Turkey or chicken. I like my chicken. Super, super moist. Yeah. And this guy, he made a Turkey and it was so good. He based. Not basted. Uh. Yeah, you could baste it. No, no, no. Um. Inject it? Oh, what's that word? Stuffed. No. When they put it in the smoker? No, you put it in the juicy marinade. Grind it. He brined it for a week. Oh, I see. Wow. And it was the juiciest, moistest turkey I've ever had. Moistest. Moistest. And I'm like, this is freaking good. Yeah. Cancel all that. But I just remember hearing all those stories about all these animals and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with people? Oh my God. Yeah. It's pretty gross. Yeah. So that, I think that's like my, my eyes just opened up and I'm like, Oh my God, I see everything horribly now. Yeah. The world's on fire. Animals in terms of just like poor living conditions and stuff like that. But it's more than just that. People be nasty. Yeah. Speaking of being nasty. Uh oh. We should talk about Nurse Hannah. Oh. Have you guys Okay, you're going to have to explain more of this to me because I think I watched a whole Oh good. I only caught on at the very end. It's like a whole Oh, you watched the YouTube? Yes. Okay, I only caught on at the very, very end. So she was originally called 17 Diapers. Yes, and I don't know why. Because she would just have seven diapers laying around. So, her thing is, she came on and she's like, I'm a mom, I'm postpartum, and She had one child, at this time. Yes, she's like, I just You know, it's hard being a mom and all of this stuff and you know, I just have random We're just gonna see how many diapers I have laying around my house If I had to guess it's probably 50 diapers just laying around my house And she went around and she counted and she picked up 17 diapers. They stink though. Why would she leave? She said my house smells so bad right now. This is probably why And so she just Leaves the diapers everywhere. She changes them wherever And then she comes and picks him up at the end of the day. Allegedly, she picks him up at the end of the day. Also, who changes their kid's diaper 17 times in one day? Considering I heard that she said she doesn't change pee diapers, that seems hard to believe. Yes, okay, so for context, she also went on a rant, um, that she said that she never changes her kid's diaper Unless it's poop. Unless it's poop. Or it's really soggy, she said. Which, like, yeah. Yeah. It shouldn't get to that point where it's literally like falling apart. No, right. So those, that's, that's, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh. So people were like Some people are on her side like well, yeah postpartum depression like that can happen and then some people are like no That's a biohazard and the fact that she's a nurse and she knows what could happen to skin She knows if it's sitting in urine all day. Yep. Well, my kids never have diaper rashes. My kids are always changed She went on a rant about that. She's just so hypocritical But then it's like, um rage baiting. Yes, the fact that Some people why would anyone want to do that? I know probably to get some viewers, but like we're at a point Why would you want that hate? We've gone too far. We're like people post stuff like that It's just too much. I want to be like they want to talk be talked about probably Yeah, like pro like except now People have called CPS on her. Supposedly from actually I think I just saw it was confirmed that she had her kids taken away I thought I'm pretty sure I know she was on the talk show. Okay. Maybe, maybe that was, yeah. Okay. So this guy, are you talking about this guy that found her address and everything that docs her and then called CPS? So, and supposedly it was like unfounded, but then they did it again. And supposedly things, this guy that went on a whole deep dive of her found out where she lived through her husband's name and all this said that he called CPS and everything. He supposedly was as saying. People in his family. Yeah, some of his family members came out like hey, this guy is no hero He just assaulted me when I was like five years old. So now he has people coming forward like no, he's not a hero he's a He cares about kids so he can take advantage That's sad. So now people are like, what the hell is going on? I don't know. And so then now people are talking about him and he deleted everything. He deleted all his, yeah. So this is bad all around. Yeah, it is. So, but then, you know, people thought that her kids got taken away, CPS visited and she hasn't been posting. But then two days later she was on a talk show. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know who this lady was. Well, there was claims of child abuse too, like physical child abuse in terms of like the video, it was a deleted video. Yes. Which one are you talking about? Well, I'm talking about the one where the dad reaches over and flicks his son in the head when he tries to reach for a chicken nugget. Oh, I was his hand. I was talking about hand away. Yeah. I was talking about the one where he, the kiddos in the grocery cart and the father like comes close and he's like, Ooh. He flinches away. I've tried, I tried to flinch test I that with Anders and he just looks at me like, what are you doing? Yep. I did that with my kids. I just took my hand to their eyes and went like this and my kids were like, they were doing it back to me. Yes. Like, is this a game? Yes. And so I'm like, yeah, kid should not be like flinching away. Fing with that. Yeah. From your parents' love. Yeah from he was just putting something in the cart and the kid is just cowering. Yeah, and the kid goes Yeah And the the apology video that wasn't an apology video was so ridiculous I don't get any time with my husband because he's always spending so much time with my kid They are roughhousing. They play all the time And it's like, you are ridiculous. But then someone found an old video of her and she's like, I just hate playing with my kid. And like, we just hate playing with our kid. And now with the new baby is coming, we're trying to give him as much as attention. But like, he's always like, no, I don't want to play with you. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense because your kid at that age loves playing with you. There's no way a toddler is going to look at you and be like, mommy, don't play with me. She's also somewhat anti. Doctor because she wouldn't go to get. Oh, that was another thing. She wouldn't get any prenatal care She finally got talked into it at like 25 weeks and she went and she's like see fine. Everything is fine I got an ultrasound blah blah blah blah blah and she like had refused to get anything before and Hmm I didn't hear about all that stuff. Yeah Yeah, I heard about the others. Oh, I watched a deep dive last night in preparation for this. Yes It's a huge thing I think The not getting treatment was first, and then the 17 diapers, and then the flinching, the flinching. And now everything, now they're like retroactively going back and watching all of her videos. And there's so, so many videos of her and her husband eating, and her kid not getting any food. I heard that. Like a fry, like a fry. But I'm like your kid can't just live on french fries. So the, there is one video where it's her and her husband and they're eating donuts together in the front seat. Oh! And the voiceover is Um. We just took our son to the park and he was playing so hard and. He's gonna go home and he's gonna go right to bed. So I guess I am gonna share some of my donut with him because this will be his lunch and she picks off like a tiny bit of donut and hands it to him in the backseat and he's just like grabs it. He's starving. Yeah. It is so screwed up. And then. I'll send you the video I watched last night. Okay. Oh my gosh. And then, so her son she's always claiming like, oh, yeah, he sleeps until 10. I'm like, I call a lie because I don't know, anytime that sleeps, then he's sleeping in until 10, then he's probably staying up until midnight or later, or he's getting drugged or, I dunno, that could be because she, her and her husband, I saw a YouTube video, but, um, she went in to go in her son's door, in her bedroom locking and she had it locked from the outside. And she's like, all, all morning he bangs on the door and I'm like, yeah,'cause you lock him in because you locked him in there and he can't get out. So then people are like, uh, no parent should be putting an outside lock on their children's door. So that's probably what like her and her husband are sleeping. They can't hear him until he's Pounding and they look at oh, it's 10 a. m We should probably go get him That's sick. He probably pissed his pants He's probably hungry. He's thirsty like Yeah So that was a weird like that's uh, yeah I did hear about the locking thing and then she like opened the door and they found him sleeping like on the floor in front Of the door. Yeah, and people were like look at this bedroom. Like it's not even loved like it's just a mattress on the floor But then I watched a youtube video because she was trying she really wants to be a vlogger Oh and clearly but she was like i've been With my toddler since 7 a. m. This morning. I'm trying to cook breakfast, you know do this do this do this And the husband was sleeping, and she said, she claimed her newborn was also sleeping too. And then she walked in the bedroom, and you can hear the baby. It looked like, it sounded like he's been crying for a while. Because she asked her husband, how long has he been crying? And the husband like, tiredly says, I don't know, just take him. And this baby has been crying for some time. And the husband just let him cry, as he's trying to sleep. It's sick. Some people just shouldn't have kids. Well, and the way that she presents herself and the way that she speaks, I absolutely believe all of the claims against her. Like, there is no saving grace of, like, anything. There's no, like, remorse that's ever found. If she's filtering her life, So that she doesn't get CPS called on her. Imagine how bad it really is. I know. And the fact that she decided to post these, I'm like, you know, that's not bad. But in the background you can clearly see her husband grabbing the toddler and just smacking the shit out of him. And she's just eating. She's always eating and she just rolls her eyes. She like 500 pounds. She should be, that's a great point. She should be like, geez, I hardly eat as often as other people and I'm still a million pounds. God, stop. Uh, the 35 jacket. What's that? She didn't wanna buy her son jacket. Oh yeah, the winter coat. She's like, I'm not spending$35 on a jacket, but then her$35 is like cheap for a coat. Oh. I'm like, people spend, spend like a hundred dollars on a coat and I'm like, oh, it was a winter coat and it was eight degrees outside and this poor little boy's in a sweater. Yeah. I don't know. I do understand. But then they go to Vegas and then they thing about like going from the car to the store type of thing. I do understand that. Right. Yeah. And when they're so little like that, it's really Anders wears like a spring jacket. It's like a heavy spring jacket, but it's definitely like, I don't know what I was going to say. He wears like a spring, something that will fit in their car seat. Yes. That fits in his car seat. It's tight to his body. It's not puffy or anything like that. And then they have a winter coat that they use otherwise. And now my kids are at an age where they, if I'm like, it's cold outside, you should put a coat on. And they're like, no. Then I'm like, okay, that's your choice then. You're going to be cold. That's your choice. Yeah. Cause they are, they learn. They say, yeah, it was really cold. And I'm like, yeah, you should put your coat on. Like I told you to. Yeah. So that's all the allegations going against her. And she's just kind of, I don't know. She hasn't posted. I keep checking every day to see if she posted a new video, nothing. Yeah. And I'm like, I want a real update, not a breaking news on Tik TOK. Yeah. Cause I'm like, no, that's old news. Daily mail. I don't know if the Daily Mail has talked about her, but no, it's like breaking news on Tik TOK. I'm pretty sure that they did. I think that's where I saw that thing about, um, whatever I was saying about the CPS thing. I'm pretty sure. So yeah, that, that's nurse Hannah. All right. Hannah Hiat. I tried to find her under investigation. Child Protective Service. Oh. 17 diapers mom under investigation after video of son flinching. This is child protective services reports. So they are child protective services is the one who said we were investigating. Yeah. I hope something comes up. Girls really sad. I feel bad. She just gives nurses a bad. A bad name and yeah, this is that thing where I was, when we've talked about this before, police officers, firefighters, nurses, anyone, doctors, people who have like that kind of power over other people. It draws the crazies. Yeah. Mm-hmm Because they thrive on that And so like, again, becoming a parent, becoming a parent is kind of the same thing. So well see what I thought. I thought she had postpartum rage. Because she's, she's always talking about her husband. My husband gave me 10 to make a meal and he said, make it delicious. Like that's how she came off and all her 10 videos. My husband gave me 10 to make a meal out of what exactly cost 10 to buy a pound of chicken. Yeah. So, but um, she talks badly about her husband. Like, Oh my, my husband can't hold the baby while eat, but look at me, I'm doing it. Yeah, she always talks shit about like her husband. Yeah, so I think like what's happening in like her brain is like she hates her husband so much that she's like projecting it on her kid. Because she made a child with her husband. Yeah. So I'm like, I wonder if it's postpartum rage that she's going through. Or she's just crazy. You're so kind to give her that benefit of the doubt. I did. And then I saw all these other allegations too. And I'm like, I think that's more than postpartum rage. I'd be curious to see what her life was like before she had kids. If there was like instances of maybe spousal issues. Yeah. There has to be something because I would guess if you go back, if they interviewed family or friends or anything, there'd be something. Well, and the fact that, so 35 people were like, okay, so 35 is too much for a toddler, but your husband can spend like 15 grand on hunting gear. Yeah. I saw that. So they're going out to eat. They're spending at least 30 on just the two of them to eat. Yeah. It's more than 30 to eat. Well, like if they're getting fast food or something, a wingstop, I don't know how much that is. Wingstop's expensive. So they talking like going to McDonald's. Yep. They go to McDonald's a lot too. Like you can spend, I spend 30. We know way too much about disabled people. Do you know what I mean? It's like, we know their habits, we know their, what their inside of the house looks like. We know, you know, it's just. See, but this is the problem with people who, like, I don't like when people film their lives anymore. I think it's weird. I do. Yeah, but I just like I do because that's what my life looks like sometimes interesting But also like we do know way too much like I shouldn't know what the inside of your car looks like I shouldn't know what the inside of your house looks like like I shouldn't know what your kids bedroom looks like Shouldn't even know what your kids faces look like. I think it's just it's too much It's too much. This world is just so weird. That's the family vloggers. And do you know the boom family? I think they're called the boom family. Mmm, we bring that boom Boom The Costco guys. What Costco guys? Nope. Uh, this guy, I think he was a wrestler back in this prime WWE boom. I think they're called the hall. It's like big AJ, the Rizzler, AJ and I do know the Rizzler because I, that little kid called Calvin the Rizzler. And he's like, no, that's a real kid. You shouldn't call me that. Okay. So this guy, he was a WWE. Oh, I see the picture of them. Well, there's like eight of them. He tried to make it on YouTube, but like this was back when YouTube was YouTube, like you didn't get the sponsorships like you do today. And he would post family vlogging. It just wasn't taking off. I don't know how many views he was getting. And then he went to TikTok and he tried to talk about like accounting and money saving to people. And then him and his one son made one TikTok video. We're Costco guys. Of course we like the chicken whatever. We're Well, we're Costco guys. Of course we're gonna eat the double chunk chocolate cookie. And it just went viral. Now they're everywhere. And It's like he's exposing his children to a world that they really don't understand. They probably understand, but they don't grasp it. Yeah, so people are kind of pointing out like Behind the scenes he's telling his son. No say it with more enthusiasm. Let's try again And then he records and they do it again They do their little bit and the son just isn't giving enough enthusiasm and the dad's like come on I think his name is AJ. So it's just like It's not even fun family content, I'm sure, anymore for these kids. It's more like, we have to read the script, do exactly the same enthusiasm as our dad. Have you seen the, the mom vlogger who is, their dog died? And so she's sitting in her front seat with her kid and she's, she's filming herself and she's like, look, we're so sad. We're so sad that the dog is died. And she's like, okay, you need to look like you're crying more. This is for the, this is for the, uh, the thumbnail. You need to look like you're crying more. You need to be more sad. You need to be more sad. And he's like, mom, I am crying. She's like, okay, but, but come on, lay your head on me. Just like this, just like this for the thumbnail. Okay. Okay. We got the thumbnail. Okay. All right. Anyway. And she like pushes them away. Like Ruby, Frankie. There's so much more than, you know, there's gonna be more than one Ruby Franky. Speaking of, How do you feel about the documentary about that that's coming out? Or that did come out? Is it a documentary or a movie? I don't recall, but I thought it was a movie. I heard that the kids were really upset about it. Oh, then I won't watch it. It's, it's to the point where documentaries are just like not really caring how like the real people were affected by it. They're just doing it for money. Yeah. Because someone watched the JonBenét Ramsey case on Netflix. They said this was trash. Yeah. Well, there's nothing new that they're gonna tell us. No. In every documentary about cold cases. It's just, there's no information. Money grab, money grab, money grab. Yeah. Because people are gonna watch it. And people won't watch with the dad in it anymore because they feel like he's just not, like, he apparently. Which one are you talking about? To some degree, the John Money Ramsey thing. Oh. To some degree, I get it. Like, he apparently, Only allows certain questions and like refuses to answer other questions and like he has full control over like all the content and stuff That goes into it But yeah, there might be more than what the dad is saying I don't know because a lot of people think it was a family member that did it so I don't know It's just really lots of unopened Yeah stuff. Yeah, I don't know someone knows something sometimes the documentary industry gets too crazy though. They do Yeah. Well, and then like you watch a documentary and you're like, I am fully invested. I completely believe this. And then you're like, these people who made this documentary have an alt were paid off by this person to make this documentary. And they want you to think this way. So then it circles back to the by now. Like what am I supposed to do? Or what are people supposed to do when they watch a documentary? Yeah. Okay. Like what was that supposed to like, just open my eyes up a little more. Like it doesn't like, this is how you can help. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. So I'm like, what, is it just a scare tactic? And, I don't know, like, what's up? Well, it depends. Like, um, do you remember, gosh, his name was something Avery, and he was like a, um, dump yard for, like, cars? And he killed the girl, supposedly the make, making of a murderer. Yes. And someone else, someone else did like a second documentary about that. And we're like, no, this was all malarkey. Like the whole thing that was in that first documentary was all lies. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying. There's a lot of, there's a lot of bias that goes into that kind of reporting. What credibility does that person have? I mean, it's like, what are they getting paid for? I don't know. That's why I'm saying like, it depends. Like Dan Schneider, he's coming out with this documentary saying that that documentary was full of lies. And we're like, Oh, okay. Yes. I'm going to documentary your documentary. So crazy. Yeah. I think it's just like a fast money grab and everything. Absolutely. Cause they know that that's like, we're just in the documentary era. Yeah. Like people want to watch the creepy. They want to watch the, we're in the true crime era for sure. Yeah. Yep. It was really scary because these are real true crimes of real people and some of the families don't want to participate. Yeah. Speaking of, which one's your favorite? Not your favorite, but which one did like, which one really grabbed you? The Avery one really grabbed me. Documentary or? Yeah. Or just like a, a cold case. Um, uh, there is one Munchausen's by proxy case. Um, and the boy's name was Gannon and I have a son named Gannon. So that one always sticks with me. It was just so sad. It was awful. There's another Munchausen by proxy case. by an influencer who was Yes. Purposely Oh, jousting her child with orazepam to make her go into a coma. Oh. And They operated on this child because of They were, I don't know if they did like an exploratory craniotomy or whatever, to figure out why she was so sleepy all the time. And then they finally, after the brain surgery, she went through brain surgery before they did a toxicology report on the baby and then found out that the mom was dosing it with lorazepam at the hospital. Why would they not do an oncology report? That is insane. Yeah. And the mom, she was still posting. Yes, and she'd like have these fake tears because people are like look how weird this video is and the mom would be like I need coffee Yeah, I remember we talked about this a little bit before and I said that they had another dog that had died I just found out my baby's brain is full of tumors. But anyway, I need a coffee Okay, and it's like what That lady. Mm hmm. Yeah, I did see a video and I I I'm an aspiring TikToker. I never see you post. I know I never post, but I did see a video that was really interesting the other day and it was a realistic what my, what I got my kids for Christmas. And I thought that was really interesting. Like actually I like the realistic ones, but then it's like, how realistic are they really? But so far we've gotten our kids to video games. That was all Calvin and when an alarm clock, which was also Calvin. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, um, I'm watching this. I think he's something Bradley. Um, but he, he's a re user. He's what I would like to be. Reuses everything that he was ever gifted or he re gifts them. And he's like, you don't need to spend that coffee. You don't need to buy that. Just make it at home or like, whatever. And I'm like, that's something I'd like to be. But it's also crazy how fast everything has to be like, Oh yeah, I have to get my Starbucks and my this and my this and my this and this. And he's seeing it like, no, you don't need all that. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting. But then it's, yeah, my eyes are just wide open and I don't know what to do. Yeah. What do you do? What do you do? Well, um, you can spread a purposeful, you could spread awareness of the documentary on our podcast. That's listened to by millions of viewers and maybe they'll watch the documentary and make changes. And there's one of our listeners. Is this girl named Kaylee, right? Yes. Kaylee. Yes, and she was one of the girls that I think saw Nick in one of the shows Nashville I think you said oh, yeah, and she was like is your wife here and Nick's like no she's going to San Diego So she'll be at the next show and she was like, oh, I just I love listening to her and her friends his podcast like I Just wish I could meet her and everything. So shout out Kaylee. Yeah, if we're in the area Let us know. Yes. Um, cause her sweet husband messaged the 30 and, 30 Crying and trying. Crying and trying. I was going to say flirty. 30 flirty and trying. Close. And um, he's like, yeah, my wife listens and um, he wanted to give her a little shout out. So we're giving Kaylee a shout out. Thank you for listening. Also your wedding pictures were very pretty. You had a winter wedding, I think. She had the winter shawl. Oh, the fur. Yes. So I'm like, that's definitely winter. Yeah. My mom wanted me to have a winter. I would have loved to have had a winter wedding. My mom was trying to push us to have a winter because farmers weren't in the field. It was so hot. It's the day of your wedding too. It's very hot. But I'm like, on my luck, we'd have a snowstorm and it's not terrible. If we bought all this food and like one person showed up. Yeah, that would be bad. We would have still been there. I know, but not you and the other people who were supposed to eat this food. That's true. That's my phone. Yeah. Hannah's been doing a lot of banging over there. Banging, banging, banging. So shout out, shout out to Kaylee. Thanks for, to her husband. That was a really sweet emoji for her is a snowflake. Yeah. We'll give her an emoji. That's sweet. Snowflake. Okay. Mine will be a turkey. R. I. P. Oh my god, that's so dark. I'm just kidding. But if you were affected by listening to the story, it horrified me. Yeah. I was horrified. That's awful. It is. So do your own research about that. Yeah. I don't want to say boycott because I don't know enough about it, but do your own research. You can boycott. Shop local, people. Yeah. As much as you can. Find your local locker. Find a local farmer. Mhm. Mhm. Oh my God, he doesn't do that. We have a really nice meat locker. That's only like 20 minutes from my house. Oh, that's awesome. I always got the best lockers, the best food. Yes. A friend of ours is a pork farmer. We're not big pork people, but I was like, yeah, if we're ever looking for like half a pig. I guess I know where I'm going. Yep. And honestly, her bacon, that's the best bacon I've ever had. Do they process it too? Uh, they send it out for processing. Floppy bacon is the best. No. Crispy bacon. Floppy bacon. Floppy bacon. We're going to get canceled. Maybe your, maybe your emoji should be bacon. Turkey and bacon. Turkey bacon sandwich. I'm a disco ball cause I'm so lame and I can't think of another emoji. Oh, shoot. I didn't pre plan for this. I know, right? It's so hard. What did you say? I don't know. I don't even remember anything I've said. Also, I think that we should probably describe why we're describing emojis. If you leave them in the Instagram comments of the photo, we're not just like aspiring to be emojis. We know that you listened all the way to the end. Yeah. Yeah. I have no idea what mine would be. You surprise me. Surprise me, people. Ooh, a we a ring, A wedding ring for your anniversary. Oh, oh. And then Calissa. You can be Florida. Uh, like a Beach. Beach umbrella. Umbrella. Beach. Umbrella. Umbrella. Yes. I think it has a towel too, right? Yes. Umbrella towel. I think so. This has been a weird episode. It hasn't been weird. It's been really long. Thank you, you so much for listening. An hour and 10 minutes. Wow. Who knows if Cliff is gonna cut some stuff. We'll see. We had a lot to say. It's okay if she cuts my orangutan still. Oh yeah. We're not, we don't need to revisit that. Oh. Anyways, thank you for listening.