Thirty, Crying and Trying's Podcast

70: Catching Up: Nikki Blonsky, Meghan Trainor, Aging, Internet Hate, Mikayla Nogueria, Homeschooling, and more!

Kalissa Georgia Kramer

Yay. Hi. It's recording finally, and we're all together. Yes. And we're on film. Hopefully this all works out. You know the film. Yes, I hope so. Um, a few housekeeping things. We are three subscribers away from 500 on YouTube, so we need your, we need your help. Um. Go subscribe to us on YouTube if you have a Google account. Mm-hmm. That's all you need. Mm-hmm. Um, and then also our podcast numbers are up. Yay. Which I super pumped about last, last month they were down, but I think that's just'cause we skipped a week and then we, um, re-uploaded. The algorithm was an algorithmic, the algorithm was not algorithmic, but now it is. And you know, I was looking at our reviews and we have not gotten a new review on our podcast in over a year. Oh. That's because like everybody. Reviewed us right when we started and then it was just kinda like, so if you haven't reviewed us, do it. But then otherwise just like leave a comment too. Like I wanna hear your input on the episode. I know we always ask for comments. Mm-hmm. And then like we just never get any comments. Or we get the same three people, which we love. Yeah. Which we love. We do love our Nathan. Yep. A couple people. Nathan. Mm-hmm. Miley Miley. Yes. I only know them by their like screen name or whatever. I don't know, like I don't know what your actual name is. Yes. Um. So those were just a few things. Leave us a review. Subscribe if you can. Comments? Comments? Yeah. So like my stories? Yeah. I always go through, actually I love the stories. Yes, I love your stories. You do such a good job. And do it takes a minute to do it.'cause I have like four pages going. So, yeah, Google, Instagram, TikTok. Just trying to find all my information. Yeah, she's good at it though. Yeah. So we're gonna do like kind of a catch up, um, episode. Um, Calissa, Bert gone. Yeah. Because Calissa was gone last week. Yes. And. Our, me and Sarah's, and probably you saw too, our feed was full of Nikki Blonsky. Yes. And we waited so that Issa could talk about it with us. Yes. I'm so excited. Okay, so if you don't know who Nikki Blansky is, first of all, she was, are you living under a rock? Are you living under a rock? Where were you in 2010? Yeah. Um, was it 2010 already? I think so because I was in high school when that movie came out. The Hairspray? Hairspray. She is the Tracy Turnblad. Yes. Tracy. The Tracy Turnblad. And she just nailed that part. She really did. She really did. She really did. Jinx. She was in her prime. Mm-hmm. She kissed, kissed Zach Efron in his prime. I mean, according to some other sources, maybe some other things. Also just BTWs. Yeah. Okay. I just FYI. That would be, that's what I've heard a dream for all of us bigger girls, like she was living our life. She was doing it, she was doing the things and, uh, that was her prime. And she has gone downhill since. Yeah. Her downfall was, she was on a plane with an American America's Next Top model, I think the winner mm-hmm. Of America's next step model, who was black. Okay. And that's relevant to the story because Nikki and her dad thought they were a-listers. You know, no one can touch them. And they took this family seat, I think her name was Bianca's, her family's seat, and Bianca's mom was like, I'm, excuse me, I think you're sitting in our seats in the, in the airplane. And all of a sudden it just turned nasty. They were like, no, you know, they're just screaming at each other. Saying the N words. And then the dad, um, Nikki Lansky's dad punched this poor woman, um, America's next step models winner. The mom, uh, oh my God, in the face. And like the mom fell backwards. Of course the brawls gonna come out. And then, um, I think someone caught it on video. But yeah, they were definitely guilty of whoa, instigating the fight. Oh my. I didn't know anything about that. I had heard that there was racial slurs happening, but I did not hear like the scenario that it all was physical, very physical, very violent, and it, yeah. So they were like, okay. And then I think, you know, that goes around in Hollywood. Mm-hmm. And Hollywood's like, no, I don't wanna deal with that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.'cause I, she only had, we talked about this a little bit. She only had like one role I think after that, right? Um, yeah, I think she did like an a, b, c family movie mm-hmm. About a fat girl living in a fat camp or going to fat camp. But she was at high school. She was just at high school, I thought, okay, but Typecasted, yes. To play a specific role. Yes. And I feel like that happens a lot in Hollywood. You know, with Rebel Wilson, you know, she was a big girl and then she was Fat Amy, and she was funny away from it. So she was just like the fat fun friend. The fat funny friend. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Who? Or like, okay. I think the bit, it's funny, but then it's like, it's like Ryan Reynolds. Like after a while it's like, okay, move on from this. What else are you gonna, young thing. Yeah. What else are you gonna do? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh. But I was such, I was such a Nick Lansky fan, you know? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I think all of America was at that point. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She was like America's sweetheart for a little bit there. Yeah. And now she only does cameo, which if you don't know what cameo is, you pay money. Mm-hmm. And your celebrity or famous person gives you a personalized shout out. Mm-hmm. Which we should start doing. Somebody wants cameos from us. Nice. Nice. We did do a little cameo for a follower. Yeah. Oh, it's true. For his wife. Yeah, that's true. We did do that. That's right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for free, because we're nice people. But like, uh, I just, so now that's all she does is she does the same exact. Cameo for everybody. Yeah. And TikTok has caught on and it used to be what, like$10 a cameo? Yeah. And I think she up 20, it was like 20 or 30. And then after she heard that things were being shared, she's like immediately upped it to like a hundred bucks. But her,'cause I saw her live and she said no. Cameo reached out to me and like, Hey girl, you are gonna burn yourself out for doing$20 cameo, so we're gonna bump it up to a hundred because you're trending. Mm. I believe it. Really? I wouldn't doubt it.'cause I'm sure cameo gets a kickback. Oh yeah. Oh sure. So my favorite video of all of these cameos is they took this big, missed, apologies for my, my sniffles. I have really bad allergies right now. Oh, sorry. Tis the season. Mm-hmm. Study or did you touch a dog? No, it's outside allergies right now. Outside allergies. Yeah. Sorry. Um, uh, so they took all of. The cameos. Mm-hmm. Together. Mm-hmm. They made a compilation and they put it all on one screen and they synced them together. So funny. So that she was all singing, you can't stop, but it's not, it's like vocal fry. You're really good at that. Wow. That was impressive. Maybe you should be the new Nicki Lansky. Oh God. I love it. But it is so bad. Yeah, and like her fake tooth fell out. Did you guys see the one where Oh yeah. Then she caught it, put it in her tooth, fell out of her mouth while she was doing a cameo. Then she like takes her tongue and like, and jams. She has some mirror or something. So I was like, there's like a, there's a little nub in there, but yeah, people are like, what caused her teeth to be like that? I kind of, and some people are saying, um, drinking. Oh, what rhymes with quack? Oh, oh, oh, I see. Yes. Yeah, I see qu qu I'm trying not to get, uh, violated over here. Oh, I heard it was drinking. Like I heard that she was possibly, listen, this is all alleged spinning out. Yeah, yeah. Spinning out bad. I mean, I would too. Let's be real. Yeah. If I went from like super fame to all of a sudden like the bottom of the barrel, like I would also be cr crashing out. To be honest, I said this in the group chat too, like I would hold on to it forever if I could. Yes. A hundred percent of like that. Hairspray role. Like that would be me. That would be my personality. Yes. So I can't really blame her for making it her personality. Things that I have literally no involvement are my personality. So if I actually had involvement in something like that would be, that would be it. Yes. That would be my whole life. And for some like they're like, would look like that every day. Corbin Blue, we know you were in high school. Musical. Get over it. Yes. Or the guy who played Zach Efron's dad in, I say never get over it. You know, they're like, okay, we get it. You were coach, whatever. No. Never get over it. I, some people are like Coach Bolton. Coach Bolton. Yes. Never leave it behind people. Because his whole personality was way back is I was in high school musical. I was the coach. And Do you wanna shout out from Coach Bolton? And I think he's got a cameo Yeah. As well. What's wrong with that? Nothing. Nothing's wrong with it, but some people are just like. What else are you gonna do? I say that as I make fun of people who make like star signs their whole personality. Yeah. So, you know, to each their own. Mm-hmm. That's my mm-hmm. Kind of thing. You know, whatever. My, my favorite cameo that Nikki did, she was literally on the toilet. Yeah. And like struggling for her life to poop. In the video, you could like see the shower, like behind her, like next to her there's a toilet. Right behind her. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, what is happening? She's written, she must be having diary or something because she's like, uh, like she's, that does not sound like diarrhea. Maybe not. That sounds like constipation. Okay. Jinx, jinx. Tracy turned bla. I know she was working with like. John Stars, Alta Queen. Amber Snow. Amber Snow. Is that her name? Amber Snow? Yes. Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. It was a huge, I love her. She's just such a huge fan of Hairspray. I had the, I got the DVD for Christmas. I wore it out. I like the boys watch Hairspray in the van. Like I love it. I believe it. Yes. It's such a good movie that like mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. Do you know what's crazy? Actually, I was on TikTok yesterday and um, is it Little Inez? Yes. She was on TikTok and she was like, I haven't done this dance in however many years, 20 years or whatever it's been. Yeah. And then she was doing the dance and I was like, oh my gosh. I know that dance. Yes. Yes. The little girl. Yeah. In Harrisburg. Yeah, the little sister. Oh, what's the brother's name that date's made of Bines? I forget Sexy face. Oh, he is? Yeah. Oh, I forget his name. So wasn't it like squid or something? Oh yeah, it was something like that. I don't wanna say it wrong, but I think we should Google that brief Pause. Yeah, brief pause. Cut this part out. Editing Calissa. Editing Calissa and my Sniffles. Squid. Hairspray. I don't think it was squid, but I think it was something close. Maybe it was squid. The movie? Yeah, just Oh, the musical. Watch it, Sam or something. He did have a real name, but I thought he had like a little nickname that musical. What they would call him that, that dance that he did in the detention in the, oh my gosh, yes. We should just watch that. We need a movie night. We probably should. Mm-hmm. We do need to, because we need to take Calissa to a real movie theater. Yes. Wait, what do you mean? She's never been to the LDX? Oh, I've never been to a movie theater with a recliner in it. Oh, you're missing out, or heated seats out, or cooling seats out. You're missing out. Or like, people bring their blankies, it's like, oh. Do you have like old school movie theater seats? Did we talk about this? Yes. Yeah, we talked about it one other time. Ooh, I don't know how to Google this black guy. Cast. No. Yeah, just to cast hairspray. Cast, cast person. And then you'll just see what his name. Elijah Kelly. Okay, but what was, who is the black guy in Hairspray? Seaweed. Yes. Not squid. Squid. You guys are close. Still in the ocean like it is. It is Ocean themed. That's true. I'm so glad that someone else had that Google search. Who is the black guy in Air Spring? Seaweed. Yes. Seaweed. Yeah. He was cute. Yes. Yeah, he was good. I feel like that was a really good, just like attractive cast. Yes. Mm-hmm. It was just so well done. Even when we saw Hairspray live, you know, like it was so good. I mean, the cast was still stellar. Yes. Yeah. It just can't be done bad, apparently. Well, I mean, I think it probably could, but it could. Like if they brought Nikki Blonsky back now. Oh, she would love that one. I saw her doing like a karaoke on TikTok too, and she's so bad. I just like, well, okay, remember that our voices are muscles and if we don't use them appropriately, then they falter. Yeah, that is true. So. Voices are muscle. I never thought about that. They are a muscle. They need to be exercised. Yeah, appropriately. Do you think Maria, Carrie, her vocals are done? I don't know because I saw that she is going on tour. Oh boy. But she is not giving anything to the audience. She always uses a backtrack now. Oh, she's never done really choreography, but she just won't even attempt. She just kind of stands there. I just assume that like Botox has completely taken over her whole body and that's just. She's just like a stiff. Has she had a lot of work done on her body? Yes. Oh gosh. Yeah. I haven't seen her in a long time. I feel like it's impossible to not have a lot of work done on your body and be in Hollywood. That's so true. Like being in la have you ever guys ever heard the phrase of like, you're not ugly, you're just poor? Yep. Yes. Yeah. Hundred percent. Like I feel that I'm just poor. There was a recent video of Megan Trainor on the red carpet. Mm-hmm. Oh, literally she looked like an animatronic. Yes. She just like. She had a hard time smiling. She talks about she was a robot. She had a bad, um, like lip flip or something like that. So, or like Botox in her lips or so, so she said that she lost weight because she was, you know, working out, which I'm like, maybe, I think she was for a long time, but then she was like, no, I'm on. Tirzepatide. Yeah. Tirzepatide. Yep. Oh, and then she said she, you know, bad veneers don't fit her face. She was using too much filler and she had like so much Botox that she literally can't even move her face. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, that's why you kind of look. She does in those pictures. She just looks like stiff. Okay, look this up. Wow. Frozen. Oh my gosh. It was bad. It's everywhere. How have you not seen it? Um, I think I did see a comparison, but it was just her face. It was like her face compared with years ago, and the comments were like, is this Paris Hilton or Meghan Trainor? Or people were like, she totally lost that base man. But you know what, if I had all that money and like accessibility to all that kind of stuff, I totally probably would fall into that too. You would have a Botox, filler blindness. I don't know if I'd have filler or Botox. Julia, I think. I think a lot of people in California or, but like a hundred percent I would have work done on my body. Oh yeah, yeah. Same dude. I'm getting a tummy tuck. Like the first thing I do if I get a little bit of extra change is like. If I'm changing myself, did you ever get a BL or something? No. No, no. That's dangerous. I told Craig I wanted face work done, and he's like, no. A what? Work? Like Like get a, like a lift or something. Oh, that would be like a little Botox. Yeah, just a little, and then it just like does that, I don't know if I could handle that, but it wears off so fast. It's like, what's the investment for? I think you only get like three months of good. Yeah. Good use. Right? And you gotta keep up with it. Mm-hmm. And I saw like you cannot go into sauna because it would just like defeat the purpose. Oh, gross. I would never get filler though.'cause that's one of those things where it never goes away. It's just like there, it can go away. They say like it dissolves or whatever. But there's a lot of people who say like, that's why people get pillow face. Because even though you're adding more to it, like there's just stuff that never completely goes away. Mm-hmm. So I don't know. I don't think I could, I already have a big wide face. Like even when I was skinny, it was. So like, I don't think I'm, yeah, no. Craig said no go. Yeah, no, no. Face work. Same. So Nick doesn't want me to anything. Yeah, you look cute. You don't need it look cute. Well, I'm talking when I'm like, maybe in my forties and I just, you know, oh my gosh. A little bit in the forehead. Okay. Speaking of this, okay, so I heard. I don't know what her name is. I'm sorry. I don't follow a lot of like TikTok influencers, like big influencers, but I heard that someone had the eyelid surgery. Yes. Did they get their eyelids removed? Um, Tana Mojo's, uh, Brooksfield or whatever. Schofield Schofield. Okay. And one of the comments was basically like, you need to move outta LA girl. No, I mean that too, but it was basically like there's no individuality anymore. So she supposedly had hooded eyes, but people were like, no, you really don't. But she still got that eyelid chopped or like she just had like deep set eyes and not really maybe, but she just decided to change that for herself. Rumor has that, Taylor Swift has had that too, because her eyes used to be Oh, true. Yes. Or squinty. You're totally right. Yes. And now they're like. Open. Yeah. You've seen before and after pictures and you're like, yeah, something happened there. People say that about, was it Jennifer Lawrence too? That had like some difference? Yes. I think Kendall Jenner too, maybe. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But like, yeah, you're right. There is no like just differences in people's, yeah. I feel like when you look back at like nineties or early two thousands movies, everybody looked different, right? Yeah. Everybody just looked like themselves and now everybody looks the fricking same. Yeah. Like there's no difference in people, and I think. More so like people can do whatever they want. Honestly, I don't care. But like if we are talking about having just general like beauty standards, like just to be a normal person, like it does take away from Yeah, just like normal people. Yeah. Just like be a normal person. Well, and so I'm rewatching Desperate Housewives. The only person that I think has had like a lot of work was Ededie Britt, the character. You know, boob, you know, a boob boob job. Botox a little bit of filler. But otherwise the whole cast, they, you know, just, they looked really good in show. They looked like themselves. Mm-hmm. They looked their aged. Yeah. Um, you could see the wrinkles when they'd like make a, a facial react. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, this was, uh, real. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They're real skin. Yeah. You don't see the facial expressions anymore.'cause everybody's got Botox, like there's no, you know, like frozen. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. For some reason everyone's afraid to age now, which is crazy to me. I think it was like the skincare just took off and then like, oh, if you don't want wrinkles, do this or Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. Have you seen the trend of like, I think it's to a Beyonce song of like, women in their thirties? Yeah. What's hot? Yeah. Oh yeah. Just'cause they're, and they just do a video of themselves being hot. Are they like, they've had worked on, they're hot or like they're just like people and they're hot. Um, um, or a mixture? I don't both. I'm seeing a little both. Yeah. Okay. You'll have to send me some stuff. Yeah. But everyone's like, wow, I can't wait to be 30. I feel like I'm at a point right now where I am feeling like I notice I start to look older. Mm-hmm. And that's disappointing. I feel that way, but like. Yeah, when I wear my three satin cap, my satin cap, my nose guard and like my oversized 90 and I'm like, yeah, I could pass for a gram ball right now. My kids make fun of me. Why are you making that face, mom? I'm like, I dunno. I'm old. Yeah. I just feel like anymore, like especially after I put makeup on, like whenever I like raise my eyebrows and then I see like. You can kind of see those indents after you stop raising your forehead and you're kinda like, oh, shoot. Mm-hmm. Shoot. Yeah. That happens with, like I said, these three lines, right? Mm-hmm. Between my eyebrows. Yeah. So, so I get why people do what they do. Yeah. But I do, but I also, I just, Christy Brinkley, like, she was so pretty and all she did was smile, but like, she's like, I love my wrinkles because it shows how, how happy I was and blah, blah, blah, blah. That's so true, but like. No one, you know, no other celebrities are. Mm-hmm. Kim Kardashian. You think she's gonna be like, oh yeah, I embrace my wrinkles. No, it's hard'cause I feel that way about other people where like your smile lines show that you had a happy life. But when I look at myself and I'm like, girl, you just look old. You know? So it's, it's hard. I do. I do get it. It's really hard to love yourself. Yeah, it is. It's a struggle. It's way easier to be nice to other people than it's to yourself. Mm-hmm. Yes. Hundred percent for sure. So, yeah. So if you have any self-care tips or like self-love tips. Yeah. How you love yourself. Accept yourself. Accept yourself. Yeah. I think sometimes love is too hard. I think acceptance is easier. Yeah. Self-acceptance. More attainable. That's what my therapist says to me. Yeah. She's like, are you at a place where you could just accept how you look? And I'm like, no, thank you. See, I feel like I kind of am. You don't have to upset about self love is, you know, a reach. But like could we just get away from self hatred? And I'm like. Nah. But then I see comments, not, not today, back in the day, like we got more work to do. Lady years were not a thing. They were like, people didn't even see themselves. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like maybe they maybe saw the reflection in the river and that was it. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, you know, you kind of think about that. We do look at ourselves way too often. Oh yeah. But like how often do your husbands look at themselves in the mirror, would you say? Um, a lot less now that he doesn't have any hair, to be honest. When he like was, had longer hair, he would look in the mirror constantly to fix it. Actually, I've never noticed. So Craig looks at himself like actually like looks, looks at himself about once a week. In the mirror. Like I'm sure he like glances by whatever, things like that. But like the other day he was like, oh my gosh, Issa, why didn't you tell me I have ear hair? Why didn't you tell me I have nose hair? I'm like, I assume that you look in the mirror and you, what does he do when he brushes his teeth? He doesn't like look at himself. I don't know what, that's so weird. He doesn't like take a quick peek before he gets in the shower. Well, that's usually like before and after the shower is when he is like, whoa, this is wild. Or like he'll have like a unicorn hair and he is like, you didn't tell me I have a unicorn hair here. I'm like, I just trust that you can look at yourself in the mirror. No, that's your job, apparently. Actually, I guess, yeah. We should ask Nick. I'm curious. No, because he has to look at himself when he is filming. Yeah. Oh, yep. That's not looking like, no, not deeply looking rooming. I'm like deeply looking. Couple. Well, he notices probably notice his hair and his beard and he's like, you haven't cleaned me up in a while. And I'm like, nah, you're fine. But when I clean him up, I'm like, oh, you look so much better. He's like, see, you need to take care of me.'cause I'll get his ear hair and everything, you know, get it off camera and Yeah. Gross. Um, sometimes if I'm nice and I have the time, I'll like. Shave a little bit more to his shoulders. He is very, but some of the comments are like, oh, Nick groomed his shoulders and I'm like, well, Nick didn't do it, but it was his wife. He is very hairy. It's poor. Yes. Sometimes I groom Calvin's little random. Unicorn hairs, as you say, that are like on his back when unicorn neck turn on the forehead. No, they're not. Like, do you ever get, do you ever see those? No. Or Frank gets'em all the time. They stick straight out and it's just one random hair and get'em on so fast he gets'em like on his back, like upper shoulder area. Mm-hmm. He'll just have like one or two long, like black hairs, just like, and I'm like, oh my gosh. Pull that out Nick. He. Because I was like, eh, yeah, just wear Vaseline because his lips always get dry.'cause he's talking so much. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And he's like, yeah, but it looks like I'm wearing lip gloss, so I have to like, who cares? Oh, the internet. The internet. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, Nick's wearing lipstick now. Then he should make it funny out of it and release a bunch of him with, that's what I said. It's a natural lip human thing. It's like making someone in front of someone.'cause they brush their teeth or something, right? Yeah. They just want, it's so odd. They just want a raw, manly man. But when he is raw and manly, they're like, you're so hairy. And I'm like, which is it? You can't win. You can't win. Yeah. You can't win. So just do what you want. Yeah. Who cares? Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. What if one day we get hate comments like that? We probably will. I'd love it. We already had one to cry. We already had one for Calissa. Yes. Although that was personality or like what you've said about how we look. So listen, people, just so you know. Uh, I already think that way about myself, so you don't need to tell me. Okay. Just FYN Let's, let's revisit that comment for those who weren't here for the episode. Okay. Um, we were talking about tipping waitresses. Oh, sure. Or not tipping waitresses. I think it was like tipping subway. We, like it was tipping. In general. In general, were talking about tip culture in general. Yeah. So we were talking about tip culture and then we, you know. I a subway comment, like, why are we tipping subway? Like, yes. Or like, why are we tipping when we check out of a grocery store, like a convenience store at like at the wilderness in, uh, Wisconsin. Dells like, if you go to the candy store, they are asking for your tip. Like they're constantly asking for your tip. And I just said that that was a little ridiculous. In this commenter. No, you were talking about donut mom. Mm-hmm. I thought you were, did you She said another mean comments. Yeah. Okay. You did? Oh, shoot. I did. Oh my gosh. I forgot. Isn't she asking for it? Oh yeah. Okay. Continue on, please. Yes. Okay. Story. So anyway, the, but the point is, what was so weird about it is it was midnight. I was at work and the episode released at midnight. And this comment was on the Instagram post not even one hour later. Yeah. So it was like super creepy of like someone who's like waiting. Mm-hmm. And, and I haven't heard of him from since. No, me either. And they had like one, obviously a fake account, A burner account. Yeah. For burner account. Yeah. I need a burner account. Yes. Oh my gosh. Because people aren't blurring comments. Or aren't blurring like the usernames on hate comments anymore. Good. Have you noticed that? What do you mean? Good? People used to protect, um, like shady commenters by blurring their na, their handle username, and then still posting like a screenshot and people don't do that anymore. Yeah. I feel like if you're willing to put your name out there to hate on people on the internet, then just you're out there. Yeah. So, um, I would never post a mean comment to someone. I feel like that's so. Uh, yeah, I went on a burner account. I feel like I went, I'm, I, um, I feel like I went on a burner account. I feel like that's something where you search, you had a burner account. There's no trace of you. No. You turn to your friend and you say, dang, that's crazy. And then you go back to your life. No, you guys. Yeah, but you waiting. Don't follow Matt Abbey. So how am I supposed to hate on them? Wait, who is that? I do actually, I don't follow them, but I think I've heard of them. They're the married couple with the cruise thing, right? Yes. Yeah. I have seen some stuff from them, but I don't follow them. Yes. I need someone to like collectively hate on them. You guys send us anything you want, but I refuse to be an internet commenter. I'm sorry. Okay. A troll. Yeah. I just won't.'cause like I would hate if someone did that to me. I would hate it. So TikTok has this thing, I think Instagram does too. You can reply to a comment with a video. Yes. Mm-hmm. And McKayla, she, you know, dropped her. She's been on it lately. With that, she dropped her new. S Makeup. Skin prep. It's skin prep. Yep. Um, it's not skincare. It's skin Skin. Prep. Prep. It's for makeup, makeup prep. Oh, it's like five steps. Yeah. To make your skin perfect for makeup. Yep. Well, that's never been done before. I feel like, like I've heard of that before. Degree. Yeah. It's kind of lot like that's actually like I'm being genuine. Like that's, I've haven't heard of this. It's gotten from what I've seen pretty dang good reviews so far. Mm-hmm. So, and um, I think what took people off, no one was saying it, but I think everyone was thinking it. She was saying why 2024 was the worst year of her life. Mm-hmm. And, but that, that was it. Mm-hmm. She's like, 20, 24 was the worst year of my life, and no one knows it because I obviously don't show that on camera. So the whole internet was thinking, what's going on with Mikayla? You know, why is she, you know, why was 2024 the worst year of her life? And then she never brought it up since and were like, spec, no. Then okay. People were speculating. They were like, oh, it's probably her and her husband Cody. It's probably. A brand deal. It's, you know, they're making up things, she's not addressing anything. And then, which is very typical. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Or people are allowed to have a private life though. So people were just peachy dubs. Um, people were kind of annoyed because she would post, um, regularly, but like, I'm so depressed, I'm gonna eat my McDonald's. But it looked like a brand shot. Um,'cause she had a McDonald's like. Tre, yes. Whole. Oh yeah. They're a lot. Great. Trey. I mean, there was like a lot of like Dunking Donut Promot there. There was a lot going around right now about people not posting for their sponsorships. Yes. Or paid partnerships or whatever. So. So then the other day she was doing her skin prep with her point of view makeup and saying why 2024 was the worst year of her life. Mm-hmm. Because her husband relapsed. Yes. He was like an addict. Yeah. He's a drug addict. Drug addict. Drug or alcohol? I think it was drug. Okay. Um, so she was telling this really sad story. She's like trying not to cry as she's putting on her skin prep, but people were kind of turned off by the point where she made sure you saw the labels. She was, yeah. Opening. Okay. But that's also part of, of her being in internet personality and Yeah, it's, if, if she didn't do that, then someone would comment and be like, what product is that? What product is that Exactly. No matter what, maybe. Exactly. No matter what. So there's just, it's like the nick thing. There's no way to win. No. The internet, like it's not that serious. It's the point you made when Whitney danced with her baby. Yep. Or RSV baby. You're like dancing is her thing. Yep. Her brand, I still totally disagree with you, but I'm saying like, that's her brand. It's her brand, yes. And that's making, are you gonna post content that's off brand? No. Yeah, you're not. Yeah. So she used to And is it maybe a little like tone deaf? Yeah. But is it on brand? The lights gotta get paid somehow. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Mm-hmm. Like people, it's the freaking internet. It's not that serious. Okay. It is serious to a lot of people. Why? It's the freaking internet. Like, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Um, Tricia Pedi, she made a comment about that'cause she noticed it too. Mm. Oh, you're telling us a sad story about your husband, but you're like really pushing your skincare line in front of the camera. And she waited to tell that story Uhhuh until, yeah, until to like she hypes it up. Mm-hmm. So there, I don't know how I feel about that. There's a lot of mixed. Do I think it's shady. Yeah. But is it also brand On brand? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yes. Am my, especially for her, I'm not necessarily judging her for being on brand. No. Do I think that it's like best business practices? No. Like you said, I'd like tone deaf a little bit. Yeah. It's tone deaf. I don't, who's not think that internet will, like I get where you're coming from and I see that. I just don't think that many people feel that way. Oh. Yeah. Why? I think that more people would be like the haters side. The haters, yeah. Easy to hate though. It's easy to hate. Yeah. But hate and like, you know, trash talk that's, that travels faster than positive, but people can literally just not watch her and then they'll never know what she's doing. It happens. Happens with like any business, like hair business, you do one bad cut. The whole town's gonna know. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's a little different. I feel like, because that's real world. That's real world. This is real world to her. It's also not because it's the internet and like that's her life. And so she can choose to like put that out however she likes. And it has nothing to do with us. It has no influence on our life, and so do we really need to care? No. No. I feel like that's my opinion about it. Yeah. And maybe that's, I don't know. Maybe that would change. I don't, you're wrong. Depending on the situation. Maybe it was something that I was passionate about. Yeah, I would feel differently, but like you do, you a girl. If I don't like it, then I don't have to watch it. Yeah. Isn't she kind of known for being a little messy anyway? Yes. Yeah. I just feel like, yep. Uh, she l Lash Paradise. Yeah. What was it? Lash Paradise, I forget. Telescopic. Yeah, telescopic. Whatever it was. There's been a lot of things that she is done. Mm-hmm. The whole, um, try being an influencer for a day. Mm-hmm. Try it because yeah. She'll like do a review of. A product and be like, this is the best ever. Or get paid for the sponsorship and then it will end up like months later in her like worst products. Yeah. Like this is the worst product ever. Yeah. Makeup that I hate type of thing. Like it'll end up in there and then everyone's like, wait, but you just did a paid partnership with them like seven months ago. That's saying this is was like the best thing ever. I wish. I think that's what ruined influencers is when, yes, the Jacqueline Hill, Manny ua, the sponsorships. And came in Laura Los Angeles. That era of makeup was 2016 because of them. Mm-hmm. And like they were making millions and millions and millions of dollars off partnerships that sucked. And now they're the company itself morph. Yeah. Bankruptcy broke. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Jeffrey Stars owed like two and a half million dollars or something and he'll never get it because they filed for bankruptcy. So they're not like legally can't get blood out of a rock. Exactly. Yep. Isn't that what I've never heard that before. Have you've never heard that before? No. Have you heard that before? Uh, no. That's okay. We use it. We use it a lot in the medical field when we're like trying to poke somebody to get blood. Oh yeah. And it's like, you can't get blood out of a rock. I'm a rock. Are you hard to get blood out of? Yes. Yeah. I don't drink a lot of water before my appointments apparently. Yeah. Yeah. The lady was like, what'd you drink today? I was like, oh, hot chocolate. She's like, oh, I feel like, I feel like sometimes people use that as an excuse. Like, oh, you're dehydrated. That's why I didn't get that iv. Oh. You know what I mean? Okay. And I feel like that's, they struggle with me. Maybe she's not, or anatomy. Anatomy is garbage. I got small veins apparently because they're always like trying to find it. They're tapping me. I know. Like they're like looking at least my skin's like very transparent. I feel like it would be harder to find yours. Yeah. Oh no. Maybe not. It's right there. Your veins are pretty dark, but they miss, so then I get bruised up. Me too bad. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then they end up going in my hands, my crusty little hands. Yep. Oof. Yeah. Pretty gross. That's awful. I've never ever in my life had someone mess a blood draw on me. Wow. Nice. But I mean, look at this. This is, do you know what I mean? That's like such a Wow. Yeah. You got a vein. That's such a flex on people. Mm-hmm. Honestly, it's huge. It's not fair.'cause Nick, I mean, his veins just stick out too. Vin's too. They always are protruding. It's really gross. Yeah, actually, but I, yeah, I just feel it. I would always like put my fingertip on the vein, see if I could stop him. Me too. Do you pinch him A little bit? Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I know. Are you not supposed to do that? You guys would have a lot of fun with a vein finder. The light. What is that? The light that we have a light that finds veins. Oh my gosh. And it lights up all of the veins in your hand. Don't let me forget. I wanna talk to you about this later. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. Um, speaking of which, how are you guys, we haven't had just like a straight up like. Ketchup we've been talking about in two weeks. I think we, um, we were gonna talk about, um, my Texas trip. Yeah. That me and Nick took. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was a surprise. Yeah. It was kind of like, well,'cause he, he was gone so much that month and then this, uh, person that wanted to come on unsubscribe, they wanted to go for Nick. And Nick's like, Ugh, I've traveled so much already. And I'm like, just go because. This guy really wants to meet you and be on the podcast with you. So he's like, would, would you wanna come? And I'm like, yeah, sure. So we got a babysitter to, you know, watch our kids for that weekend. And it was just a really chill, calm weekend, like mm-hmm. Uh, we went shopping, what did I get? Anything? I don't know. I don't think I got anything. But, um, just low key. Ate at a really good Mexican restaurant. Yeah. Like they, you could tell the tortillas were like homemade, fresh pressed. Yeah. Fresh, fresh, fresh. And like I am, I think George Strait has been there. Cool. A couple times.'cause they had pictures with George Strait in that restaurant. I'm like, that was pretty cool. Yeah. At the King of Texas. Yeah. And then, um, when you say Texas, what part of Texas? We can cut this if you don't wanna know, but, um, this is San Antonio. It's weird because San Antonio and Bernie are just like, yeah. So close. Mm, but San Antonio mostly. Okay. Um, and then I visited his factory bunker branding that makes everyone's merch. And it was kind of overwhelming because I got kind of quiet, like, you know, I'm just like looking at all these things and they're like, this is a wall of Nick's shirts and it's like a long hallway full of orders of people ordering Nick stuff. And I'm like, you know, I hear about these sales, but like seeing it in person, it was like. Oh, whoa. Okay. That would be super trippy. Mm-hmm. And then he was showing me like the, uh, sewing machines that were patching on half. Oh, like embroidery stuff? Yeah. Yes. And they can only do six at a time. So I'm like, well that's pretty cool. Like if you get a half from them, like Yeah. It's like small batch. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then, um, yep, I'm watching machines, flip shirts nice and tight, and someone's like, I love that. Putting them in the. You know the sack? Mm-hmm. For the order. It was really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was run really smoothly. It looked like a really fun vibe. I was talking to the guy and I'm like, so what do you look for when you hire someone? And he's like, I try to find someone that doesn't know anyone on this wall. Oh, because anyone on this wall can come and visit bunker. And they can, you don't wanna be like wigged out by like starstruck girls starstruck, like, oh my gosh, that's, you know. Yeah. They want, they want to come into a space where like, maybe I should get a job there. Yeah. Yeah. I only know Nick and I don't care about Nick. He's totally unfazed by any barn. Yeah. Yep. Calvin was talking about somebody the other day, and I'm like, I don't even know who that is. Mm-hmm. He's like, oh, it's this guy. And I was like, oh. I need to memorize what these people look like so that I can know who you're talking about when you talk about people. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I mean you would, yeah, definitely. They'd hire you. I wonder how much money I could make. Probably not that much. Moving to Texas. Yeah. We should move to Texas. There you go. And get a job. Texas. Um, and then, uh, on the podcast,'cause I watched it and they were talking about homeschooling. Mm-hmm. And why he prefers homeschooling and how. They do like a co-op. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But then I didn't realize how almost everyone in that room has been homeschooled. Oh. And that's why they're weird. No. Okay. No, that's just like people assume that homeschool people are weird. No. Savannah said that her parents did. There's two ways to do homeschooling the correct way and then the wrong way, which everyone sees the wrong way. Mm-hmm. They see a weird kid. And then the right way, you see like kids thriving. Mm-hmm. So. Nick is always like, well, what do you think about homeschooling? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I see really good things with it, but I just don't know. You have to have a kid, every kid learns in a different way. Yes, and and I just grows in a different way. And so, you know, you kinda have to have to write personality to be able to Definitely, because I went to a mom's meeting and this girl was trying to teach about phonetics. Mm-hmm. Um, sounds. Yes. And she's like, I used to be a teacher. I taught for six years and she's showing us how she teaches her children. And I'm like, you just, you do it so well. You want her in your co-op? Yes. Yeah. I'm like, you do it so well. I would never think of that stuff. Mm-hmm. And if I did, I'd have to do a ton of research. Mm-hmm. Like, it'd almost be like, oh, I might as well just get a, but that's like an education degree if you follow a program. Right. A lot of those things are laid out for you. Mm-hmm. I think people run into issues. We kind of talked about this at school actually, because there, there are families who come in from homeschool to our school and there are areas where they're very behind and it's like those areas of like reading or you know, whatever, where, and I just don't want them to be be behind, quote unquote. Yeah, because it's literally not your fault. It is my fault. But fault. It is literally like, would be your fault if like you send your kid to school and they're like years behind, you know? But that's why, that's like the difference between like child led sometimes is very difficult because Yeah. If you're going always at their pace. Their pace might be slower and sometimes mm-hmm. There are like more things that you have to, you know, and I just don't know what they should know at that point. Like, okay, how do you not know your geography right now? Like, then I would get frustrated and it's my mother, Linda. Um, but yeah, so he was talking really well about homeschooling and I'm, it just gets you thinking. Yeah. Mm-hmm. My kids come home and they teach me something new all the time. Oh, yeah. So there's no way. I bet. And they're in second grade. Mm-hmm. Kindergarten. Yeah. Yeah. Even Gannon came home and he's like, teaching me how to sound out a word, and I'm like. You'd think that it's pretty easy to like mm-hmm. Sound out a word, but you have to teach someone to do it. Yeah. How to sound out a word. Mm-hmm. And it's like, oh, I, yeah. Don't need that. Do Ron's in that phase right now of like sounding things out. Well, and it's hard too because like I, my kids had a puzzle and I was like, cha cha. I'm like, and I'm like, wait, cutter, like, you know, C and Chuck. Yeah. Like, I'm like, oh yeah, that's a little hard. Yeah. You know, like. Cheetah and then cutter, like different sounds. Yeah. So it's like, well, Cecil, Cecil is also a C word. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I don't know why that particularly came to my mind, but like there's another mm-hmm. How way to make a C sounds, so then it's like, how do I, you know? Yeah. The different, like, no, that's not how you pronounce that. It's the like xylophone. Mm-hmm. You would think an S. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think, or ZI don't know. X. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, yeah, doesn't make sense. No. Yeah. I mean, and like the English language is very difficult. So if you, um, if you homeschool or if you thought about homeschool, leave us a comment. Why Or Insta. Yeah, I'm curious.'cause I think. Everybody who homeschools does it for different reasons. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Definitely. And so there's so many reasons to homeschool or to not homeschool. I'm just, yeah. It's interesting thinking about homeschooling. Yeah. Yeah. What programs maybe would you consider following? It never crossed my mind that I would homeschool kids. Really? Not once in my entire life that I've been like, I can do that better than a teacher. Oh. Oh God, no. I, I feel like all my props to teachers. Yeah. I just wanted to spend more time with my kids and I didn't wanna like. This sounds so bonkers. Like I sound like a crazy person, but I didn't wanna give up the control of like knowing what's going into my kid's brain, knowing what's like coming outta my kid's brain. Like I didn't wanna give up that control. So yeah, we definitely considered it and Calvin said No. Like year two, where you react. I feel like Kelvin always says no. Yeah, he does. He always tells me No. I tell that all the time. He's like, you get whatever you want. And I'm like, liar. No, you don't. I do not get liar. I've witnessed him denying you. Yes. When we go out to eat, I'm like, Hey, can I get a soda? And he's like, no, he's gonna, if he edits this video, he's gonna edit it out of this story. No, he knows. He knows. I don't know. It's, it's only honesty over here. Okay. It's only truth. Only the truth. Mm-hmm. What's new with you? Not much. Literally nothing. Anything fun. You dad, spring break. Uh, yeah. Play a lot of video games, just chilling. Nice. I'm ready for the school year to be over and to just like have a break. Mm-hmm. I feel like this has been a hard transitional year with like, because I'm so used to doing whatever I want, whenever I want and now I have like, places to be at certain times and like certain things that I have to do by certain times. Yep. And I'm like, okay. I need to like, rework my brain so that I can still have time to like, do the things that I wanna do and also like clean my house and also like do all these things and I do not thrive, not doing what I wanna do. So it's like a, just a difficult transition. Learning to like be accountable. To other people again, because you had such a big spring break. Do you get, do you go into June for mm-hmm. Cool. No. Mm-hmm. That's nice. Yeah, that would be, yeah. We're actually ending earlier than I even thought this year, so Yeah, we're the Friday before Memorial Day? I don't know what day is we're done. May 26th. We're the 23rd, I think.'cause we're done. Although we might skip that day because my nephew's getting married that weekend. Mm. And so if we leave, where at? In Des Moines. Oh, in Des Moines? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I dunno if it was like a far away land. No, but we do have a far away wedding. Far, far away this year, but it's not while, are you driving while? Yeah, we are. Oh actually, oh my gosh. It's, it's really soon. Shoot, that's only like two weeks. Oh, poop. Oh yeah. Well, goodness. April 10th, so it's May, no, it's fifth. It's like May 5th, third. Third is the weekend. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's only like a couple weeks though. It's only a couple weeks. Oh gosh. Oh my gosh. I gotta get myself together. See, this is what I'm saying. Like, I'm like, now I have to be like on someone else's timeline and I'm like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. All the time. So stressful. You should take an Ashwaganda gummy. I the point you're like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. No. Sorry. I'm getting worked up. I'm getting a little stressed, ashwagandha gummy. I was taking Ashwagandha for a while and I didn't feel like it helped. Agreed. I feel like it helps. I was taking Ashwagandha for a while and I did not feel like it helped. Yeah. A lot of people say like, oh, you're gonna be so relaxed. Oh, this. I'm like, no, no. Just don't think I yell as my kids as much when I'm on it. Is that a, um, what's that called? Um, like a fake your brain thing. Is that called placebo? Yeah. Is that a placebo thing? I don't know. Okay. If it works for you, keep doing it. Yeah. I hate yelling at my kids. It's the worst. Yes. It's, I, oh, I just hate that. I apologize to my kids all the time, so I. Woke up or I got home from work. The kitty litter box was totally a mess and it was like stuck.'cause we have the litter robot or whatever. It was stuck. The cats had to pee. Like all of this stuff was going wrong. The kids weren't ready. Craig hadn't been up yet. It was just like a terrible morning. And I ended up yelling because everybody was like trying to help me fix the litter box. I'm like, just leave me alone. And then of course I felt terrible. So then I'm like. Because Greg's like, what? Curled up your ass? I'm like, so anyway, I had to apologize and I was, I gave everybody a hug and I said I was sorry that I was grumpy this morning. I was just really frustrated at the cat box and I won't be grumpy. You know? I didn't say, I won't be grumpy again. Yeah, okay. I never say that. I always just say like, I'm gonna try to do better next time I'm frustrated. Do your kids like go up to you and like, you made me sad. Yes. Yes. Well, so what happened that night? They always say, you hate me. I got grumpy again because I don't even remember why. And Carra goes, you said you wouldn't be grumpy again. And I was like, I never promised that. Ever, and I won't because I'm gonna get grumpy again. Yeah. Just put life. But I thought that, and I'm like, sorry guys. Do you hear it from like little Anders? No, not yet. No. No. He's, he's just in his own little world. Okay. He's so funny. I get it from cash. Yeah. Already. Yeah. My, you made me. Sad. Oh no. I'm like, alright. Like he'll, he must be, he must be thinking about it for quite some time, you know?'cause he'll go on with his day. Mm-hmm. I'm like, gosh, did you have a good day? And immediately you may be sad. Oh, out of the blue. Yeah. And I'm like, oh. Because I yelled at him maybe like earlier. Yeah. In the day. And I'm like, okay. So I gave him a hug and then. He just bounce backs and Yeah, runs off. Usually that's all they need is a little, they'll talk about it, just need like a hug or like, I know that like you've done it and like accept it and like, you know. Yeah. Because I remember as a kid when my parents would yell at me, they never like, I don't know, I don't never really apologize to like, yeah. I'm sorry I yelled at you. Like every once in a while. No, but not super often. So I think that's a, a new age parenting. Yes, definitely hack. Yeah, because I mean, but like how, because I would go to my room pissed off. It makes perfect sense, and then like, I'm still mad at, you know, mom or dad or both, whoever yelled at me and then they're like, all right, time to eat. And then we just eat and like act like nothing happened. Right. Yeah. I hate that. And then I'm just like, I'm so mad at you. But like, yeah, I want to be my kids' like safe space. Yeah. I want them to like not be afraid to tell me. Yep. When they feel something. So that's where I appreciate when my kids were like, you know, I had a really good day, but earlier in the day you like, I'm still really mad or sad. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, like yeah. And that's totally okay. Yeah. Like sometimes it frustrates me because I'm like, can't you just let it go? I'm also like, you know what? You do the same exact thing. Yeah, yeah. Like, you'll hold a grudge against Calvin for something for days. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then, you know, even after we've talked about it and then I'm still just like thinking about it and upset and angry and I'm like, so, you know, I can't blame him. Yeah. Blame him. So I appreciate that. You know? Yeah. It's, I'm glad you told me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I try to do better. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's hard. It is that balance. Yeah. So tell us what you do. I think I've done better. Yeah. Let us know. Yeah. I keep forgetting that there's a camera. Hello. Tell us what you do. If we end up with no video on this, then just ignore us saying that. I think we should, I think it'll work. We've tried a couple times. Yeah. It's wishy-washy. Yeah, it's iffy. It's, there's a lot of, uh, a lot of moving parts. It's not as easy as like buying a camera and turning it on. Right. There's more to it than we anticipated.'cause we want good audio for our YouTubers and Nick told us. Like straight to our faces, so bless him. Yeah, bless him for that. Yeah. You don't need to feel his fire because he already knows. Yeah, that's true. I told you. I know, I know. I always try to be really careful not to give him a bigger head. Yeah, like you're really silly. He needs someone to humble him, so Yeah, it's fine. I'm right here. Well, on that note. Yeah, we'll probably end this episode. So, um, let us know what you thought about this episode in the comments. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, covered a lot. Yeah. A little bit of everything. Motherhood, celebrity gossip. Yeah. Self-love. Yeah. Catching up. Self hatred. Yeah. Dang. Closest therapist could let us know. There we go. The machines to therapize us all. Oh, she's good man. She's really good. Okay. Because yeah. We won't give out names and numbers, but just FYI. If you need therapy, go get this. Yes, yes. Go get it. Go get it. Go get it, find it, get you some, yeah, get you something like that. Okay. And on that, this has been Hannah and Issa and Sarah. Bye