72: Catching Up: A Local True Crime Case, Review of Faith and Four Letter Words, Mel Robbins, the Let Them Theory & More!

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Hello. Hi. What's so funny, you just as soon as I'm like ready to hit record, you're like, just my throat. Um, hello, this is Hannah and Calissa. And Sarah and, uh, we're getting together again and we're just gonna discuss kind of what's been happening with us, I guess the classic format for us lately. Yeah, because we only get to see each other like maybe once a week, maybe maybe once every two or three weeks, depending on closes. Busy schedule. Yeah, busy schedule. Like next week we won't record. Oh, well maybe you guys will, but I won't. So she's just a busy lady. Busy lady. Lots of overtime. Mm-hmm. Fun. We love that. Love that. I mean, your wallet probably loves that. Yes. Yes. We got some big goals, chaching. Yeah. Did he discuss the goals? Uh, we wanna pay off. We wanna be completely debt free by September. So everything except for the house. Okay. Except for the house That's, but that's not too far off either. Okay. Because we only have 60,000 left on that, so Yeah. It's not bad. Mm, for sure. Yeah. So what else else do you have? What? What's like some of the ones that you have? The school medical, you paid off school. Yep. Paid off student loans. Medical is about 4,500 from all your sons? Yes. Oh, geez. Yes. Um, and then, uh, we have our HELOC that we took out to, um, do the remodel on the house. It's a heloc, HELOC home equity line of credit. Oh. So you borrow from the equity in your home, you know your house is worth so much money. Mm-hmm. And you borrow from how much you've already paid off mm-hmm. In the equity. And then you can use that to. Improving house. How does that work? If we have already paid off our house? Oh, you could do it? Mm-hmm. Hmm. Yeah. What's the interest rate generally on something like that? Uh, mine is super shitty. Mine's like 7.9%. Okay. Okay. Yeah, right now interest rates are okay. So noisy drink, just shake it up. She's an ice lady. Apparently. Taste good. What is it? Uh, amino. Amino and creatine. Gosh, cal puff. That stuff so good. I'm not a big fan of like the, those fruity, sweet and just get plain. I have a complaint about that though, because like you have to buy the big a tub jug. That's actually, aminos is pretty small. Aminos is a small little, okay. Yeah. It's maybe like six inches tall, but the powder is like maybe this, so it's like potato chips. Yeah. You think you're getting a full bag of potato chips, but really you're getting like this much. Yeah. Yeah. It's Tom Foolery for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it says amino lean and it's, you know, good for before or after workouts, sugar free. What does am an amino do for you? Amino acid. Um, um, I think something it's usually has, I think Calvin said that that's like his, he uses it for pre-workouts, so like it has whatever constitutes pre-workout caffeine in it. Yeah. Caffeine, I think, and I don't know, some other stuff. It just helps me kind of wake up a little bit. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Nice. Body recovery. Muscle recovery. Yeah. I went a little hard this week at the gym. Wow. Legs. So my quads were like on fire. Is that your front, your front bit? Mm-hmm. Okay. Your front bit, but I, so what's the back part called? Hams. Hams hangs. Got it. Your makeup is on point today. Thanks. It looks pheno. Mm-hmm. I love it. Thanks. I don't know if it's like the shadow from your glasses, but like your contour just looks snatch. Mm-hmm. Oh. Yeah, I just use bronzer, so. Yeah. Well it looks, it's a good thing we're filming today'cause I know'cause last week, whoa. Oh that's okay. Anyway, so me and Calissa, I just found out Yeah, that we went to the same show. Yes. It's called Faith and four letter words. Mm-hmm. And I went to the Mason City one'cause they're on tour. It's two anger women who used to be on the news like mm-hmm. For. I think over a decade. Yep. Maybe I remember both of'em being on tv. Me when I was really little. Me? Yeah. You don't remember. Okay. So their names were Tara Thomas and Amanda Goodman. Mm-hmm. I would really have to look at their faces to recognize You. Would recognize Tara?'cause she was A-K-I-M-T. Okay. Which is Mason City. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mason City, Rochester. Like with that whole region? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Amanda Goodman was more Waterloo, Iowa. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. I don't know, but I, I mean, my parents watched both KWWL and KIMT. Yeah. I never really paid that much attention to the news, so we Yeah, too. Yeah. Have cable. I a farmer. Yeah. Yeah. No cable over here. Like what else do you have to do? Except watch the news. That's totally true. Yeah. Yeah. And my mom was just always glued to the tv. Like, just anything that happened. She's just there. Oh my goodness. Anyway, she's ready for the tea. Yes. Well, I mean, I don't know, just, yeah. Nosy, I guess. But, um, they have been off camera for years now. Mm-hmm. And they decided to get together and. Tour. Tour, yeah. Have a speaking engagement. Yeah. Yeah. And what's their topics? They're generally like female empowerment, I guess is how I would classify. Yeah. And Amanda Goodman, she's been kind of you, I mean, she's pre, she's public, so if you wanna look her up on Facebook, I mean, you can follow her. Mm-hmm. She's got kind of a big following. Okay. Um. But I followed her and she writes these lengthy posts and they're pretty good. Mm-hmm. But she also kind of scares me'cause I'm like, um, you seem like a really tough bitch. Like, and she says like, I think she called herself a ghetto person at this tour. Mm-hmm. Oh gosh. And at first when she said, you know, my mom, she went to a, a live mm-hmm. With my aunt. Mm-hmm. And my mom was telling me, oh yeah, Amanda Goodman's, like I'm ghetto. And I'm like, how is she ghetto? Like she's from, yeah. What's the context here? She's from Iowa. Yeah. You know, I thought she was, she's not from Iowa. Yeah. But my mom didn't tell me that. Yes. And then at the, at the live show, she was like, no, I'm from Philly. And I'm like, oh, that checks out. That checks out. Yeah. Philly people are kinda crazy. They're just a little like rougher. Yeah, rougher around the around. So now when she was like, oh, okay, that. You know, I thought you're from Iowa, you're saying you're ghetto. Right? If you're like from the back country over here, it's like the only people you fight with are your pigs. You. That's my mother right now. Yeah. She got her foot stomped on by a pig. Oh, what a butt. Oh yeah. So, but anyway, yeah, she's fine. Okay. I was gonna, she's managing she bones, or like she's managing. She's fine. Okay. But, um, where was I going, Amanda? Good. Yeah, so she kinda, she comes off like really, um, gr not aggressive, like personality, aggressive. That's my assumption. Maybe just tough, like, you know. Okay. And so when my mom's like, do you wanna go to a show with me? And I'm like, well, what's the show kind of about? Is it like feminism and rah rah rah? Like, I don't,'cause I, I don't get, I don't know what vibe to pick up from her. Mm-hmm. And, um, no, it really wasn't that. It was just, um, the show was nice. Tara Thomas was talking about her side of the story and she'd end off on a cliffhanger. So Amanda would. Tell her story, they would go back and forth, but they would end on these cliffhangers. And so is it basic in their, in their, in their, yes. Um, time in like the newsroom stuff. Mm-hmm. So Tara was talking about her Mason City. There's a pretty big case, the Jody Hu's intrude case. Mm-hmm. And it shook waves. Mm-hmm. Like my mom was, I mean, my mom is still terrified of like, yeah. What was this? Mid 90, 99. Nineties. 95. 95, okay. Mid nineties. Okay. Got it. Yes. Um. And Tara Thomas, you know, she, this was when you had to apply, um, VHS audition. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Send it to all the local newsrooms just to get anybody right. And KAMT was like, yeah, we'll pick you up. And so she's like headed over to Mason City and she sees all these yellow ribbons everywhere. And she's like, what's up with these yellow ribbons? Because she was trying to tell us, uh, that news didn't travel that quick. Right. And the person kinda looked at Tara Thomas like, are you kidding me? It's about Jody Entru. She's like, oh, what happened? And so he had to fill her in. Mm-hmm. You're basically filling in her spot. Mm-hmm. And she was like, oh my God, I'm filling in for a spot for a woman who has only been gone for three weeks. Yeah. It was like two or three weeks at the time when she took over. Yeah. And they just like filled it. And she was saying her time on being there, there was no such thing as. Hey guys, if you need a day off. Um, really nothing. Wow. They just powered through. Yeah. So she said some people were crying because they were just like, oh. Like they were devastated. They loved Yeah. Yeah. Jody and they couldn't believe what happened. Yeah. But there was no HR meetings, no crisis management. No. Right. Nothing. Right. She's like, it was the nineties. Yep. It was just kind of like vastly different like, um, corporate world mm-hmm. Kind of situation or like workplace world. Move on on your own time. Yeah. So she was talking about the heartbreak that she had to deal with, um, here. Mm-hmm. And then she talked about living in the Kirk Apartments. The Kirk Apartments are, they were an old apartment here in Mason City. They're still old. They burnt down. Oh, is that the one that was downtown? Yeah. Okay. I'm thinking of the one that are on Kentucky. You know what I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. Kent. Kent. Is that what it is'? What they called something with a KI think. Something. Okay. Well, the Kirk Apartments were mm-hmm. They were iconic and mm-hmm. You know. Old, everything shady. Huh? They were shady. Well, over the years, yes. Okay. But that's where her first apartment was because she wasn't making much as a news person. Mm-hmm. And her parents said that they would help her out. So she like down the street from the news, and then she would work at JC Penney's on her free time. Mm-hmm. So she was telling her that side, and then it would flip flop, which was kind of cool. And then Tara Thomas or Amanda Goodman. Was saying how, you know, she was this pretty little thing, this blonde, bubbly person, super excited to get into the news and um, basically they looked at her and they were like, you need to do something with your hair. You need Botox, you need filler. She's like, at 21 I got Botox, or like 21 or 20. She had to get Botox because the news people just looked at her and was like, we need you to be the face of news. She's looking at her newscaster partner, who's this old, bald, fat guy. Nothing. Nothing gets said to him. Nothing like, you need to lose weight or you need to wear a tope. Nothing but they, but she just felt that like your dresses need to be a little tighter. You need to wear more makeup. We'll get you a makeup class. We'll have a makeup artist for you. You need to have the newscaster bob. They talk about that. All the newscaster women, they had bobs. I don't know. It was just the style, the look, which is unfortunate'cause some people bless them, can't pull off a bob. I'm one of'em. Yeah, it's okay. No, but uh, kind of like, who cares? Do it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So she was telling her, her side of the story of how she wanted to be into journalism. Mm-hmm. They didn't really care about journalism. They cared about looks. Mm-hmm. And, um. I just thought it was kind of crazy and I was like, oh my gosh. Like when she gave birth to her first baby, I think she had like a week off and they're like, we need you back in the newsroom. Otherwise there's five other girls wanting to take your spot. So she is like, yep, I put my diaper on. Oh, uh, went to the newsroom room, did my thing, and then they looked at her and was like, okay, you did great, but you need to lose the baby weight. And then she said she became addicted to laxatives. Oof. Because they were like, you need to lose weight. Mm-hmm. And I, you know, thinking back in my pregnancy, I'm like, there is no way I could have been like that. But she said she didn't have a choice. She said, um, there's five other girls willing to take my spot. I need a job. I had to do what I had to do. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Speaking as someone with just general tummy troubles, being addicted to laxatives and pooping your brains out all the time. It is not fun. It's terrible. It's not fun. Oh my gosh. Bless her. Mm-hmm. I'm happy she survived that mentally. Yeah. So basically, um, the whole tour was basically, I had to write down the quote, um, will what you allow will continue? Mm. And she said, that kind of fits with anything, any situation that you're in, what you allow will continue. Mm-hmm. So, um, she, you know, had that with, uh, well, she almost got in a fight with someone during election night. She said it was 2016 election night. She kinda lost it because there was some man telling her that she looked fat in a dress and she just had a baby. And I looked up the Google image and I'm like, she looked fine. She looked great. Mm-hmm. But they were like, no, you, you, you're fat. And you need to do something. And it was embarrassing what she wore on election night, and she was so excited for election night because she was with, uh, a pretty high end newscaster. Lester Holt. Yes. Was sounds familiar. Mm-hmm. He, I mean a, b, c 2020 news, like he's there, but he, you know, came for our Iowa caucus night. Mm-hmm. And she was super excited. She's like, this is what it's about. You know, real journalism, getting to the, to that newsroom and whatever. And then instead of being told, Hey, you did a good job, you, you're fat. So then she just like lost it and she like tried to hit this guy and she said, Ron Steele and Mark sch Berg were like holding her back.'cause she was like trying to hit this guy. Yeah. Like this. And she's like, I'm from Philly. That's funny. I'm a ghetto bitch. I'm gonna fucking fight you. Oh my gosh. Geez. And so they were like, yeah, you're out. Oh, so she got fired? Yeah. And she's like, I don't care. She's like, I'm done with this. Yeah. Like, and I didn't, you know, you don't know what happens in that world. So I was like, dang. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because all, you know, oh, we had to let Amanda Goodman go. She was, you know, she was amazing. But then she's writing her blog. This is when her blog started. Like taking off. Yeah. Yeah. Because everyone's like, tell us the tea. And she just told everyone everything. And then, um. She said, her and Tara Thomas, the fact that they're friends, that never would've happened in the news world because Oh, I'm sure she said they pit people against each other. Girls are petty. Mm-hmm. Guys are petty. And just the fact that they're two, they're like besties. Mm-hmm. Yeah. She's like, it's rare. That kind of stuff is dog eat dog. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that's what, uh, kind of the whole tour is like, you know? Oh, like not just. Being friends with women, I think, um, being a girl, like really trying to help the next person. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of being that petty person and being a girl's girl. Yeah. So I, I liked it. I enjoyed it. Mm-hmm. Um, Tara was great. Uh, so it's called Faith in four letter words because I guess Tara Thomas, she's never sworn she doesn't swear. Um, she's. Not like a goodie goodie, but like she just doesn't do that. Or Amanda Goodman, she'll say that four letter word, she doesn't care. And basically be unapologetically you is what? They're kind of coming off like, no, if you wanna be this person, go ahead do it. And if you wanna be this person, go ahead and do it and just be you basically. So it was pretty cool. I liked it. Oh, the Jodi Hu and True thing was kind of it. She said, it's been years since she's been back to Mason, Tara Thomas, and she was like, oh my gosh. We're at the South Bridge Mall and this is where I used to work, and I used to come here every day, do my job, and now it's dead. Yeah, it's dead. Yeah. Is there anything in the mall? Mm, well, eating places. One. I think Sports page is there. The arena's there. Um, I mean, there's a dance studio. Yeah. And there's like a, um, contractor, no, not contractor, an architecture office. Yeah. Um, there's a little food court. There's a couple things. Oh, there's a new, um, arcade. I heard, I saw that. Um, but it's like the Walmart arcade. Yeah. Really small than that, I don't think. Oh yeah. And the, um, baseball card store, the like collector store. And I think that's it. Okay. Just like almost all the malls. Yeah. Yeah. Dying. So what was, uh, what did you take, what was your experience? Um, I went with my mom. I went to the one in West Union, or just outside of West Union, and it was, I thought it was great. Um, I had kind of the, I, I, I think. I would say the same thing about Amanda Goodman. I didn't know how to take her. Mm-hmm. Her just based on her blog and her writing and things like that. And I left with a better impression of her than when I came in. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Because I, she kind of, she terrified me. Yeah. Because I'm like, I don't know, like what kind of woman you are. Like Yeah. She started to fight anyway. Like just, yeah. Aggressive. Yeah. But not really. Yeah. She, um, is, I would say. The word that it comes to mind. Like fierce? Very. Yes. Just like, but it, it had to take years for her to get to that point. Yeah. And she's very, um, she loves that. Let them quote, I hate Mel Robbins, but Yeah. What quote? Let them, let them. That's it. That's the whole quote. No, it's the whole, I'll read it. It's long. What's it about? Like gimme the cliff notes. Um. It's just like if they're gonna be garbage, let'em, yeah, they're gonna be cool. Let'em like, that's it. That's her life motto. If they want to leave, let them. If they choose someone else, let them. If they don't support you, let them. If they don't invite you, let them stop wasting your energy, trying to control or change other people. Let them show you who they really are, and then you can choose what to do next. I see. Hmm. There's a lot of variations of it, but that's kind of, who's Mel Robin? The summary. You've seen her before. She's obnoxious. Oh God. She's in the, the mental health, self-help space. Was she on a podcast with someone? She has a podcast. Oh, I don't, I don't know if I've heard that is No. Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's something else. Okay. I don't know how to describe her. I've listened to several of her books and I've listened to her podcast before and I just can't get on board with her. Okay. She's just obnoxiously obnoxious. I love that. Okay. I like when Issa calls people obnoxious. Mm-hmm. Why? Because I'm obnoxious. No, I just think like you, you have very strong opinions, but I think generally like. You're not super like, um. Uh, not loud about them, but you're not like super like, oh, in your face and like, Ugh, I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna say it with my whole chest type of thing. But you're just like, I hate her. I do. I do. All right. She's just very much like, you can think your way out of anything. Mm. I think generally I would call you very agreeable and like, this is not that kind of case. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I agree. Like, I think you play devil's advocates quite a bit, where you're just like, oh, okay. That's an interesting perspective. You know what I mean? Yeah. And in this case it's just like, no, I hate her. She sucks. She's terrible. So funny. Yeah. I'll have to send you a few clips of why I, I, I, I used to be super into the self-help space. I used to love. Yeah. Talk Jenna Kutcher. I used to love Rachel Hollis. I used to love Mel Robbins. I used to love, um. Brene Brown and all of these people who had all of these very inspiring things to say, and then one by one by one, they have just shown their true colors. I think they got, oh, and like the fame has gone to their head. I was gonna say, like they got bought out. Yes. Or they, oh, they're selling courses. I don't know how many times. Yes. They fall into the Yes. Selling courses space and you can be, it's almost, it feels MLME. Mm-hmm. That's something I really hate about the, um, mental health space, is that it's very. Mm-hmm. And like predatory. Yeah. And I feel like it's very, um, disingenuous when it comes to like reality. Yeah. I think, and I, correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but aren't there like some bits of science that say like the more that you dwell on your mental health, like constantly, the worse it's gonna be? Mm-hmm. The more you like, you know what I makes sense. Like I don't, I don't know. Yeah. So. I just kind of feel like, not that talking about it, don't get me wrong, not that talking about it, consulting with your friends, going to therapy, whatever. Not that that's a bad thing. Mm-hmm. But being someone who only sits in their mental health and relates everything to their mental health constantly. Yeah. Is not gonna fix your mental health. They are depression instead of someone who has depression. Exactly. Or someone they are. Exactly. DH ADHD people do that with A DHD all the time. Yeah. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. And they're like autism, so adhd. And are oc like low level autism? Yeah. I feel like Go the same way. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. And they just like, yeah. Latch onto that. Mm-hmm. I knew, uh, I knew two pe two guys. I one very much talked about how he was just depressed all the time. Mm-hmm. The other one, he could be that same way because he, not a purple heart, but. He went to war. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He saw he PTSD, probably active duty. Yeah. Yeah. Like he saw it. Yeah. And, but like, not that he hid it, he talked about it, but like he didn't make it his whole personality. Mm-hmm. You can still find things to enjoy in life, even when you're, you can still talk to him and he won't circle back to sadness. Yeah. And so he was, he became a really good friend. Mm-hmm. And the other friend just, he just wanted to stay. Dark. Yep. Hidden. Yep. And everyone just kind of backed away. Like it's very much like the, um, sort of addiction mindset or like the rehab mindset where like you can't help people unless they wanna help themselves. So like, I feel like sort of the depression and a DHD autism type of low, low autism, I should say, um, is like very similar. And that like, if people don't want to be better, get better. Um, or like, just like try Never, this person never tried. Yeah. There's nothing that can be said if they don't want to do that themselves. So Yeah. And then me and some other people, we tried to help this person. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We tried to be just a positive. Mm-hmm. And he just never wanted to go that way. Yeah. We had a friend in high school like that. Yep. Mm-hmm. So it's, it's hard. Mm-hmm. So. How did we get to this? I don't know. I was curious. I was curious what, what was your kind of topic about when you went to Faith? Your thing? Yeah, same thing. So it was the same show basically. Yep. Everything. Interesting. Did you like how uh, Tara and Amanda flipped it, like they left at a cliffhanger, so then Amanda would talk Yes. And then she done it off at a cliffhanger? Yes. Just back and forth like that. It was different. It was very engaging. I've read books like that, that have that similar sort of setup. Mm-hmm. I do think that it keeps your mind engaged. Mm-hmm. Because it's sort of that point when you start to maybe fall off and lose an audience, then it's like, okay, yeah. And we're gonna flip it and Yep. She didn't, and usually I have, I'm really bad at that. Mm-hmm. Like if someone is droning on and on. Uh, no, I'm thinking like, graduation. Oh, like, you know, boring. And they, they lost my right away. I'm sorry. This is why I couldn't pay attention in church growing up. Well, yeah, because like, you can't gimme an hour sermon and expect me to sit there and stare at you and listen the whole time I'm wandering. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. But nope, they kept it like I was able to fully engage in everything that they said. Mm-hmm. Um, did Tara Thomas talk about Jody who's in true case? Mm-hmm. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Think it's very interesting. It is. I, I follow the updates on it. I've listened to the podcast on Jodi. Um, I believe they did a Crime Junkie episode on, oh, I would probably believe so. Yeah. On Jodi in school, I forget what, I think it was freshman year, like history, we had to pick like some sort of historical thing that happened like in town or like a building or like a whatever. And so many people did Jodi Hu tr like it was bonkers. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, and Tara, you know, I think she's heard all the theories of Yeah. What could have happened. I'm sure who it could have been. Mm-hmm. But she talked about this Don Hammond Harmon. Um, but I had to Google him at the thing, and I'm like, I remember him on tv. Um, he, she said he was a great news person, like. He just, everybody loved him. He was loved by everyone, the community, his family, his wife, you know, just everybody. Mm-hmm. But she said he secretly was bat battling a really bad depression. Mm. And I don't know if she said, or if it was insinuated, um, it could have been about Jodi and if people were like, you did it, you know, pointing fingers at him because he was like in love with her and it was unrequited or what? No, he was, he had a wife. Like, oh, you're saying post? Yeah. So it was Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. And um, so it kind of sounded like people thought he had some connection, some connection to Jody. I mean, sometimes people are just like, they're theories and they want, they want answers and, um. Uh, yeah, she said how he committed suicide and, oh, oh my God. She didn't say this? No, I don't remember this part. Okay. Um, well, maybe because it was Mason, it's, I mean, this has been months ago now that I've Oh. Was there, you know? Okay. So it's not fresh. It's not as fresh. Okay. Um, uh, his wife, he knew his wife was gonna be gone forever. His daughter was gonna go to school, and that's when he's like, perfect time to do it. And he, uh. Just suffocation basically. So like no mess. He thought about them, like if he suffocate himself. Paper or plastic. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Got it, got it, got it. Got she. She was telling us the grueling details and I'm like, oh my God. I was like, did he cover his own face of the pillow? No, sorry. That's not funny. Just like in my mind that didn't make sense, but like she, yeah, the details and. And she said he just didn't want them to have a mess. Oh, for sure. And I'm like, um, I felt like we just had this conversation. We did. Because that's generally more of a female attribute when they commit suicide. Just FYI, yeah. Hmm. About uh, Sylvia Plath or No? Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think we did Virginia Wolf. Yeah. Sylvia Plath, the head in the oven and all that kind stuff. They just wanted to make sure everyone else was kind of like, good. And then they just, you know, do that to themselves and yeah. I Googled him and I'm like, oh my God, I remember this guy on tv. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. Sad. Yeah. But his, uh, the, the community just really rallied, and so he's got names and monuments. I think this was more in Waterloo. Um, yeah, no, I, if it was in Waterloo, why wouldn't it be here? Because Jodi was here. Oh. But yeah, they still have a. Like just things named after him. Hmm. Like they won't forget him. That's nice. Yeah. That's a good impact then. Yes. That's good. I'm really trying to remember,'cause this was like two weeks ago that I think my mom and I did this, so. Hmm. Yeah. I wanted to like take notes and record, but like, they never said it like no flash photography, no recording. But, uh, no recording is kind of a given Yeah. When you go to tours like this. Right. But I just wanted to remember to tell you guys Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember stuff. But yeah, I have tried to listen to their podcast before.'cause I think Calissa brought it up and asked us to like follow them or whatever. Mm-hmm. No, they follow us. Shoot. Yeah. Amanda Goodman follows us. Oh. Mm-hmm. But she follows back everybody that was, yeah. Oh, I see, I see. So, like, I remember I was gonna say, okay, because I, I saw that and I, I that she just started following us. I'm like, oh my God. And I texted the group and Hannah's like, she follows everybody. Oh, I do remember that. Be the party poop. I do remember that. I just, um, I couldn't get into it. But I struggle with podcasts anyways. Sorry. Podcast people. I just struggle as your podcasting. I know, but I think it's just like an attention thing. Like my at, I only have so much attention and then especially if I'm doing something like it's hard for me to listen and like stay attentive for that long mm-hmm. While I'm doing something. Yeah. And who's just sitting listening to podcasts? People. Did people do that? Me. Um, do you, you do stuff though while you listen though? Uh, work out generally. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And, but like, I'm like smiling like an idiot when I'm listening and Yeah. Not that anyone paying attention. I listen to one of ours in the gym one time and I was like, cracking up myself and I was like, nobody's listening. That's funny. Um, what else did you take away from the show? Hmm. Yeah. Or like, who did you really gravitate towards? They had a really great charcuterie cup. I'm serious. Yeah. We didn't get to serve any food really. Mm-hmm. It was$10 in a first month. Oh, oh. To buy it. That's 10. Yes. They had like refreshments available for purchase. And how about, and it, they had, it was so good. And it was so cute the way that it was laid out and everything. I, I think I took a picture of it, but. Anyway. The point is that's what I, that's one thing I remember, and the green olives were so good. I'm not a green olive kind of girl except for on pizza. I do like on pizza. Oh yeah. I like green olives. Yeah. It's an acquired taste. Yeah. With the pit or without the pit? Without, okay. Well, I don't know. I've never had a martini with, you know, the Chris Jenner, she always has to have an olive in her martini. Which, why does it change the flavor of it? I don't know. Or olives just go better with gin versus, I'm not an alcoholic. I don't, I don't drink. Okay. Not really. Yeah. I've only had one drink. I mean, only one. It's either Mike's hard Lemonade, can't drink that'cause of acid reflux. Mm-hmm. And then a lemonade. And like a blue uv. Can't drink that.'cause my acid reflux. Oh, margarita, don't you? A margarita girl? Mm-hmm. That's about it. No, at a restaurant. Chuck Norris. Only for me. Chuck Norris. Is that a drink? Yeah. What's in it? I don't know. Candy tastes like candy. I'll, it's so sugary. Oh yeah. I'll drink any seltzer. Yeah. I'm not a, I'm not a, except for grapefruit. Ugh. Hate. I'm not a big grapefruit fan either. Hate, I hate grapefruit flavor. Anything do you like? I also don't like orange. I like beer. I can't stand beer. I don't either. It's an acquired taste. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I asked my cousin,'cause she drinks beer a lot, and I'm like, what do you like about it? She's like, the yeast. And I'm like, it tastes the bread. Tastes like bread. That's why I love Casey's pizza.'cause I feel like their crust is really yeasty and bready and it tastes good. It's like sweet, sweet bread. I like that. That's a fun sound in the microphone. Sorry, should I keep that? It was unintentional and then I just like, oh, it's happening. Just go with it. What else? Yeah, I'm kind of jealous of Nick. He can drink any, I mean, I don't know what he likes, but he's, he's just can drink anything, and I'm like, that not I, I smell it. Yeah. I'm like, that smells atrocious. He's like, it's delicious. And I'm like, Ugh. What does he drink? Everything? Yeah. He had before he had a fridge in the basement. That was just beer. Yeah. And he would just, like, it was a beer fridge. Mm-hmm. Crack it open. Yeah. Oops, sorry. But now he just, um, he's, he only drinks when he's in Texas. He doesn't drink here. Good. That's probably for the best. He just wants to stay focused and do stuff here, and then it's kind of a given. When they're on the podcast, they're all drinking white claws or Yeah, white claws shots or wine? White claws. Yeah. I, they just, they love white claws. Why are they like fruity? Are they sponsored by White Claw? No, they should be. And that's like a joke. Like you guys should be sponsored by White Claw.'cause you they drink it so much. Yeah. And Nick's the only one who's drinking a Bush light. Yeah. Is White Claw beer? What is that? I don't think it's, you don't know what white claws are. Well, it's what Seltzer isn't it? It's Seltzer. It's a vodka. It's a vodka drink. Okay. Yeah. It's like bubbly. Yes. Okay. Carbonated. Uh, someone described it once as like drinking tea static while someone from the next room says like pineapple. Yeah. I just, um, that's what it tastes like. I can't Okay. That's what someone said once. I don't know where I got that. I feel like I would want more pineapple. Like I would want the person saying pineapple to be like in your chair next to me. Okay. You know, pineapple? Yeah. More like, yeah. And like the TVs in the other room. Yeah, more pineapple carless is another seltzer I really like. So it has no carbs. No carbs. Well, most seltzers don't have carbs, but um, they have a really, the flavor is more flavorful. I like that. And it's, it's like someone sitting next to you saying, pineapple. I love that. Pineapple's my favorite flavor. I also like strawberry. Mm-hmm. Yep. Strawberry's. My fave. Yep. So you don't wanna drink this, but it's strawberry lemonade. Um, yeah, but usually that has a really artificial flavor to it and it's like, I don't know, I dunno. It's kinda like when you eat Jolly ranchers, like Jolly Ranchers are not, not good. They're just really artificial tasting and I don't love that. Mm-hmm. I would rather just, just gimme all the chemicals. I don't know if I'm gonna drink something artificial, like I'm gonna have a soda. Hell yeah. Just gimme a Dr. Pepper. Ugh. Ugh. I love a good Dr. Pepper lately. Wait, don't you like Dr. Pepper? Not regular Dr. Pepper. No, she's Diet Coke. Diet Coke. I'm well. And diet, diet Dr. Pepper. I like diet Dr. Pepper. I like to mix the Diet Coke and the diet Dr. Pepper. Wait, why? What's, what does it, what does it, why, what, what, what makes it taste better? My brain can't let me drink that much sugar. Oh, how do you mean? Um. You are just like, Ew. Yeah. It's like syrup. Yeah. It's like syrupy like heavy. I like that. And then like I was growing, growing up. It's always like, no, you can't have regular pop. You have to have diet pop. I've never gotten into regular pop ever. Weird. I've never gotten into diet.'cause I feel like it's just so, it tastes fake. It tastes like it tastes different. It tastes aspartame. Yes. Tastes like I used to have Some people have the thing about Stevia, right? Yeah. It tastes like stevia. You can tell that it's like, that's not real. Oh, I don't like that. Yeah, no, just never grew up drinking regular pop. That's bonkers. Yeah. And then if I, it just sits, it's like heavy. It's like, that's true. Think about it day if you ever rest of the day. Sometimes I go to Casey's and they, I hate Casey's because, well, I like Casey's'cause they have good Dr. Pepper, but I don't like Casey's because they're like medium and smaller cups are styrofoam. And I hate styrofoam cups, hate them. So I always have to get the large or the extra large because they come in the plastic cup and then it's like, dang, you're drinking a large, I think soda. Maybe they know that like a lot of people don't like the sensory issues and they're like, Hey, yeah, it's got these suckers to get, get the big stuff really sticky and like kind of slimy and like kinda, it just always feels like wet. Damp be sticky. I hate that. What does styrofoam It does not. It does. When you, when you, when it's a soda cup, she's a sensory person. I'm just telling you. It is and it's gross. And that's why I refuse to do it. And so then I have to get a large or an extra large, and then I'm at school or wherever I am at and I'm drinking all that soda. I'm like, oh, I could die right now. Yeah. Another thing that I have a hard time drinking is bottled water. Dasani Aquafina. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Nasty. I can't think of all the plastic that I'm drinking. Oh, true. Like if it's in a plastic bottle. True. I just, I like a hundred water. You know what I used to do? I would leave like a bottled water in my car. Let it sit there for like drink it. Yeah. And then drink it. Yeah. The people who, um, furnish their like roadside assistant basket in their trunk. Like bottle, bottle water. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, just cancer. You need some cancer right away. Cancer. Like who, how long has that bottled water been in there? And you're just gonna drink that? Yeah. Like, is that better than dehydration? Probably. But still. Um, gross. What if you leave bottled stuff in the garage? Is that bad? Does it get hot in there? Is it temperature controlled? It's temperature controlled. Then you're probably fine. But like, if I'm thinking like your old garage. Oh, no, no. Like your old one. The cellar. That's not, yeah, that's not, that wasn't temperature controlled. No, it wasn't water bottles in there. Okay. Is the battery dying already? Oh, damnit. No space. Um, the memory card, pause here. Calista pause. Calissa. Or pause like 25 seconds ago. Issa Well, we'll have half of the episode. We'll have half of this episode too. We could do trailers, we could do, you know, a trailer sneaky. We could do some shorts with this. Yeah, there you go. Let's do YouTube shorts. Yeah. With this, some shorts. Just get, that's the wrong angle. If you ask, cut a clip, who cares? We can zoom in on one person if they say something funny. Yeah. Okay. Which, although this episode is pretty heavy, I don't know if there's much funny going on there, but, Hmm. Uh, I used to pronounce. Aspartame asme. Now you're gonna make me say it. That's like, um, and you can't look at that word now without going aspart me. Have you ever heard of people from Australia and such who say aluminum? Aluminum instead of aluminum? They put the foss on the wrong sala. Yeah. Isn't it strange? I love talking like that. What? They put the emphasis on the wrong sable. What? Emphasis on the wrong syllable. Oh. Hannah, I didn't know what she was saying. It's sounds like a different language. Yeah. Yeah. Aluminum. And they call red peppers. Capsicum. Well, do you know that? Like a, like a red pepper, green pepper, yellow pepper, orange pepper. Capsicum, huh? Mm-hmm. Cucumber. Cucumber. Cucumber. Mm-hmm. I've heard that. Mm-hmm. So you have to think about it like cucumber. That's like how we would say it. But if you, that's like a coupon. Cucumber is a coupon, cucumber. Cucu. I don't hear cucumber. You're putting, sorry. That was weird too. You're putting the emphasis on a different syllable. So instead of saying cucumber, you're saying cucumber, huh? I still don't hear a difference, Hannah. Yes, you do. I don't. You're saying which? Where is the emphasis? So if I say Hannah instead of Hannah. Uh, sorry, that was really loud, so you might have to turn it back. Well, I just, um, you know, Asians because No, this guy, the guy was saying it how, like they talk like Yeah. They emphasize everything. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. They do have like a different emphasis. Yes, for sure. And so I definitely hear it Yeah. With them, like how they would say it, like it properly. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But like, Americans were just so lazy or just like Mountain Dew or whatever. Yeah. And that's the Lululemon thing. You heard about that? No, the CEO called it Lululemon because he wanted to make fun of Asians the way they say it. Why would he do that? I don't know. Like what does he, why to say? Did you say tell people that was your plan? Yeah, true. What does he try to say by Lululemon? Because they're like, Lulu, like they have a hard time saying it, supposedly. Saying what? Lululemon. Oh, they, or they. Okay. I think he says,'cause they sound funny saying it, so that's why he named it that. Oh yeah. It was a whole thing. I didn't hear about that. So people were like, screw Lululemon, kinda, but, but they're still thriving. Yeah, that's true. So that's true. Yeah. Nothing is gonna have you, do you own Lululemon? I don't, I've never been in a Lululemon store. I have been Lululemon, but I don't own, I have a legging, which is fine. And I bought a shirt. I never wear it. I think the tags are still on it. I thought it'd look cute, but it was only cute on the hanger. I know some, a couple of my sister-in-law really likes Lulu Lemon, although they prefer Athleta now, I think. Oh, I thought it was Athleta. I've heard Athleta, but I don't know. Okay. Well I say a Athleta. I also don't any own any of that stuff'cause that's also too expensive for bought these so Athleta leggings. Okay. Again, too expensive for me. I'm like, if I buy something at Old Navy, that's too much White Fox Boutique. Mm-hmm. Where's that? Online? Yep. It's a, is it Australian or New Zealand? Uh, Australian Boutique. It's gonna come my newsfeed now. I don't even have to put it in my phone. Nope. They're cute, but they're definitely like younger people. It's a Oh yeah, it's very much lounge. Uh, it's, oh, they're more lounge now. It used, it's very loungey. Used to be club wear and loungewear and that was it like club or lounge? No, it's all the sweater sets, the sweatpants, matches the sweater and then you get the shirt. Gotcha.$200 purchase, you know, or whatever. Geez. Yeah. That's too much for me. So when I go to the airport and I see all these little cute little genzer with their slick back ponytails mm-hmm. Their white fox hoodies and, uh, what's the Taz shoe? Im like, Ugh. I will, everyone dresses Walmart and buying$10 sweatpants from Walmart. That's plenty for me. Even that's like$10 for a sweatpant. Dude. That's too much. You're talking Walmart, right? Yes. Okay. 7 99 is where it's at. For a pair of sweatpants people. 7 99. 9 99. That's pushing it. That's pushing it. It really is. I'm like, man, if I want a pair of sweatpants, I'm only getting one pair.'cause$10. Dude, what? Bonkers. Just telling you it's funny, funny. That's poor people's stuff for you. Just FYAI have two pairs of Nike sweatpants that I invested in. Oh, sh sh That's like 50 bucks. They're like, they were$60 each. Mm-hmm. Calla. But I wear'em all the time. And there's this whole, China's becoming really petty. Like, oh, you can buy Nike stuff for like five bucks here. Like, they're like, um, you're just paying, basically paying for the brand. And I think with the tariff things going on, like. I dunno if like China's like, no, you can buy this stuff, um, cheaper. You don't need to. I don't know. I don't, you know what I would love, speaking of tariffs. I just really, for one, I just don't really listen to a lot of stuff about anything. I don't either. Um, but two, I just don't really understand. I was just gonna say, is Nick here? That kind of stuff. Oh, you know what he did? What? He tore his bicep. Mm-hmm. Again, no, his bicep. Bicep. So he tore both of his pecs before bicep. So flex, uh, flex your arm like this, sticking out a little bit. Great. Flex Flex. I don't have any muscle. This right there. This ouch. Or that Oh, she's harassing Calissa so he can't explain tariffs. No, he's in Des Moines. Oh. Talking to the doctor. Probably have surgery next week. Geez, idiot. And I'm like, what were you doing? Like thinking that he did something so badass? No, he, uh, a, a thing of water, you know? Yeah. The bottled water. Yeah. He tried to catch it'cause it was falling out of his car. And it landed on him funny. Oh, what a weak man. I just, I've never heard of someone tearing so much things. Literally. Yeah. I wonder if he has like weak ligaments or something or whatever, like holds muscles. He seems like Aler Danlos or something. Oh, maybe. What's that? Does he have hyper extension? What's that like where you Actually, he does have weird fingers. Yeah. Thinking about it, I'll do a, it's like where you are, like extra bendy? Yeah. Like I'll do a scale on him the next time that I, is it your tendons, your ligaments, or like Yeah. Your connective tissue. Yeah. It's like stretching loose. Stretched out. Yeah. You know, our son Cutter, my oldest, he can bend his thumb all the way. Maybe he is to his arm. Yeah. Because he'll like this way or like this way? Nope. He'll, he'll be like this and his thumb can just go so far. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. Maybe he is too. Well, does we'll do a, a hyper and scale on him the next time that Does he have hyperextended knees? Oh, that's weird. I don't think so. But he can do this. Just, that's disgusting. He can do this without, like, just naturally. I'm glad that we don't have video going right now anymore. I'm, Nope. A little further. Can you do. Like this. So bend this again like this? Mm-hmm. And then go down like this. Oh, ew, Sarah. That's disgusting. I also have, you have, have them too. Thumbs, thumb. How do you do that? This is the farthest I can go. They are like, they get super, like they're perpendicular. This should have been on video. Ew. Thumbs. I have a hitchhiker's thumb, like pretty, I don't wanna say severely, but like, it's pretty intense. Ew. And they're like, Sarah, perfect. Perfectly perpendicular. I know sometimes Who, when was this? I don't remember. But they're like, put your thumb straight. And they're, and I'm going like this. And they're like, put it straight. And I'm like, dude, this is straight. Like, do you see my knuckle being straight? That no there. That feels so weird. No, I agree. That's not, it's like this. Thumbs up thumbs. Yeah. Calissa has a little bit of the check too. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's you guys. You're straight. Hannah. You do have a straight thumb. Yep. Just kidding. That shouldn't have been of a deal. Damn. This is, this just got off rails. We've really devolved into Yes. Odd things happening. What in the world started off serious. Yep. Yeah. Well, sorry about that. On topic. Um, oh, so I text my mom, she must be busy, but what did your mom. Take away from faith in four letter words. Um, she thought the same thing. She left with a better impression and impression. Impression. An impression of Amanda Goodman than she came with Uhhuh Uhhuh. Um, she thought it was interesting. She like, I don't think we'd go again. There are some people that go to like multiple shows, like, don't miss a show. Shout out Danielle. She's been like three times. Yeah. And it's like, I don't feel the need to do that. Mm-hmm. But, um. I think it was, my mom remembers very well the Jodi Hu intrude case. So that was very interesting to her. I think that was probably her biggest takeaway. So tell me, is that the same setup that they do for their podcast? Or like is the podcast I don't think so different. I think the podcast is different. Yeah. I think they, it's, when I first listened, it was very short. Mm-hmm. Like maybe 20 minutes. Mm. And I'm like, well they're, they're busy, you know? So, but not. I think some people only do like 20 minute episodes. Maybe not everyone has the time that we have. I wish I've taken notes or something. Yeah, because I feel like I'm not, I guess, yeah. I'm not like giving a very good, it's been too long. Yeah, it's been too long ago now. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Yep. Uh, Tara Thomas is like, let's take a group photo. See? So my mom and I, we got closer'cause we were front row and I'm like, mom, let's just, you know, get a little closer. Mm-hmm. We were blocked out by her head. Oh shoot. I'm like, oh no. Could have stayed where we were and we would've shot. You could like the shot, if they posted on Instagram. You should, you could have tagged yourself in it. I know how hilarious. Yeah. But there was like another unflattering photo. I think Tara Thomas was just taking a picture of the crowd and me and my mom were just like, and I'm like, well, we're right there. I hate when that happens. Yeah. Oh. But like I said, they didn't check tickets or anything. Mm-hmm. And you know, me and my mom got there. We were the first ones there. We sat down. Then people started coming in and there was one guy. And he was a heckler? Nope. Oh, he didn't look. I mean, I was expecting more women and I was like, I wonder if any more guys, but he had no one. He was just him wearing like a red beanie, like an old army's coat and like a really tattered up backpack. And they, they noticed him because he was the only male there. Yeah. And he was like dead straight in the middle. And Tara Thomas, she just got taught talking about Jodi who's in True and how it kind of shook her and how she thinks. The person who did it is someone local. Mm-hmm. Someone here knows something. Yeah. And he just, he got up from, after she got done talking, he must have like got up from his seat. Did a peace sign to Tara and then walked out. And then later in the show she's like, so there was a, a young man here and she was describing him because you know, all her eyes are focused on them. Yeah. Like, I can't see what's going on behind me. And she said, what happened? And she's like, now I'm kind of freaked out. She said this, I'm freaked out because I said, it's someone who did this to Jodi's. Gotta be local and someone knows something. And this kid just kinda stood up after I got done talking and just. Peace sign and headed out. She's like, so if you know who he is, let me know. Like, that's so weird. Yeah. So then the next day I had to go downtown and I saw him just walking the streets still in the same clothes he was in last night. Hmm. And I was talking to my friend who's a police officer, and she said, there's a lot of homelessness in Mason City. And I'm like, you know, maybe he was homeless because he didn't look clean. Yeah. So maybe he was just kind of wandering the mall just to stay warm and. Ended up there, decided to happened upon a show. Yep. So I'm like, may, so I kind of wanna reach out and be like, Hey, I think this was just a wanderer. Yeah. So, but that, I thought it was gonna be more interesting, but I was like, no, I think he's homeless. Yeah, because my unhoused, unhoused, sorry, sorry. I don't know how I'm just, you know, nineties, we don't keep up with the PC of the world these days. No, sorry. Things change so quickly. It does. Yes. Call me out. I do. I don't care. Oh, okay. Oh, call me out. I will care. We care very deeply. Yes. We'll probably call, you don't care about being called out though, you're saying? Yes. Yes. Okay, got it. Got it, got it. Alright, cool. Well, I'm getting on that. Um, let us know if you looked up Tara Thomas or Amanda Goodman, or if you remember them from watching them on the tv. If you're local. Um, we do have a lot of local listeners. Do you any Jody who's intru to information? I guess like Yeah, there's websites and, you know, and podcasts and I guess you can let whoever that person was. Amanda, is that what you said? Amanda? New Tara knew Tara. Yeah. Let'em know. Yeah. Don't tell us because we aren't connected enough of that, but, and everything we say here is alleged. Yeah. True. Oh yeah. Alleged. Yeah. And don't take us seriously. We're just, we're just three. Just three girls. Gavin, just three girls, three goals. I like that. Mm-hmm. I'm on that. Maybe that should have been our podcast name. Three girls, Gavin. That's cute. Maybe we need a second podcast now, or we just, Gavin, I feel like we kind of already that I know we've, we've evolved. Yeah. Okay. We might change our podcast name. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe after we all hit 30. Yeah. And then we will. Pop off. There we go. Okay. Well this has been Issa Hannah. Hey Sarah. Bye.