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74: GIRL TARIFFS: What's a Tariff? The Fat Electrician Breaks it Down for the Ladies to Understand

Kalissa Georgia Kramer

Hello? Hey. Hello. I thought you were gonna jump right into it. Oh, yes. Okay. So this question has been on my mind for a while and we discussed it. Last week or two weeks ago we tried, but um, we're just a couple girlies. We just a couple ladies and like, you know how there's girl math, it's like the excuse for kind of being stupid and making up your own math. We need girl tariffs. We need to understand okay, why she and is gonna get so expensive now. And yeah, I'm seeing like ads for companies all over my timelines and stuff, and they're like. Sorry, we're gonna be out of stock of this item, or we're gonna be this or that or whatever. Because tariffs, and I'm like, why? What does that mean, Nicholas? What mean? So we're bringing on the fat electrics. Why don't, yeah, go ahead. Oh, we're bringing you on because you No stuff. Yeah. So, uh, I ran an Amazon business of. Imported things. I've actually dealt with tariffs. Uh, I also am own a significant portion of bunker branding and our blank shirts, we import those and then we print'em in Texas and then transport from there. So this actually literally affects my business, so I do kind of know what I'm talking about. So why don't you tell me what you think a tariff is and then we'll, we'll see where we get. I mean, my assumption is just that it's, uh, basically a tax on imported or exported goods depending on. Yeah. Which way? What country it is. Yeah. Essentially. Um, so what do you guys think the news has led you to believe tariffs are gonna do? How they, how do they work? I mean, I assume that it's gonna be the downfall of our country based on like, it's gonna ruin our already ruined economy. Yeah. And everyone's gonna die. I just think everything is gonna shit up eggs because like Canada. Yeah. Like, they're like, we can't, we can't sell anything to America anymore. Yeah.'cause of tariffs. And if they do, it's, it's gonna jack up prices right. So that's what I think, like, we're just gonna hit, we're just gonna be hit. So the, the first, the first thing, yeah. The first thing that you guys need to understand is you already hit on it. So the way this gets portrayed is this is a tax on you that you're gonna pay as a consumer by yourself. A hundred percent. No, and I didn't, I don't think that, no, I assume that the company's, that's what the news is telling you. Right? But if that were true, why would Canada care about selling to the us? Yeah. Canada does not pay the price. What Canada is gonna pay the price? Everybody involved is gonna pay the price. The manufacturer, the person that imports it, the company, the retailer. Mm-hmm. And the customer, they're all gonna pay a, a portion of it. Um, the other thing is a lot of people don't understand that when you hear something like it's a hundred percent tariff, that doesn't mean the price of the shelf goes up a hundred percent. Hmm. It's a hundred percent tax at the port of entry. The port of entry is the manufacturing price. Okay, so, so it could be 25 cents. I sell a shirt at Bunker Branding for$30. Yeah, that's printed with my logos and everything. It's been through my factory. We've done our thing with it. That's$30. If there's a hundred percent tariff on the blank shirts that I import, that does not mean I have to sell a shirt for$60. Oh God. Okay. Woo. Okay. It we, I think, I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. I think we pay it like s. Six to$9, depending on the type of shirt, the color for the blank shirt. Mm-hmm. Hypothetically, if there were a hundred percent tariff on shirts, which I don't believe, I think is like 25% on shirts, but if there was a hundred percent tariff, then it'd be like$16 or something. My price would go from 12 or from six to$12 a shirt. Okay. So now there's an extra$6. Mm-hmm. If I want to keep the same profit margin, which I'm probably not gonna be able to. Mm-hmm. And that's okay. That's how the world works. Okay, I'm probably gonna make a little bit less money per shirt, and then the manufacturer's probably gonna make a little bit less money per shirt. I'm probably gonna make$2 less per shirt. The manufacturer's probably gonna make$2 less per shirt, and then the customer's probably gonna have to pay$32 for a shirt. Oh, this, this is how a tariff works? Mm-hmm. Okay. They can, and everybody is freaking out. It's become a very political thing. It's, they're not political. Biden used tariffs. Trump used tariffs. Every president has had tariffs involved. It's like every country has some kind of tariff. They do. America notoriously, has very few tariffs, but gets tariffed a lot. Right? So, um, for example, and I've done videos on this before, um, have you ever noticed like American trucks are huge and then overseas there's like not, there's like little tiny trucks that you can buy then that's because of tariffs. Interesting. So this is how, this is, it's economic warfare essentially, right? So after, after the Korean War, world War ii, um, Germany was a wreck. Most of Europe was a wreck. They didn't have a way to have, um, poultry chicken. So America started manufacturing a ton of chicken and we would export it over the overseas. And as they started getting their farms back in line, the farms were so far behind that it was still more cost effective for us to grow chickens, slaughter'em here, ship'em across an ocean, and it would still be cheaper than the chickens that they could raise in Germany. So Germany went and put a humongous tariff on American chicken, and they did that to make it so German farmers would have a chance to compete. Okay. It's their country. They can do that. Whatever they want their people to, you know, succeed in a market and not get dominated, that's fine. As a retaliation, Lyndon b Johnson got pissed off and said, okay, well fine. If you're gonna put a tariff on our chicken, we're gonna put a tariff. Do you remember the love bus from the 1960s? The hippie van? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's called a type two. Oh my gosh. Is that why we don't have those anymore? It was the most popular truck in America, and Lyndon b Johnson said, fine. Fuck you guys. If you're gonna tariff my chicken, I'm gonna tariff small cargo vehicles. How dare he? And he did that to take a jab back at Germany because what They were outrageously popular here and that's why those went away. Oh, and that's why we still don't have a lot of small trucks. That's why we really don't import any small. Trucks in America. Right. We have the Ford Ranger and the Chevy Colorado. Yeah. And the Toyota Tacoma. Mm-hmm. Those are all made in North America because there's a, to this day it's called the chicken tax for that reason, is what it's called. Wow. There's a humongous tariff on small trucks getting imported into America, and America does that now. They originally did it as retaliation for chicken, but now they do it because we manufacture our own cars here. Mm-hmm. And we want Americans to buy American made cars to keep our money here and not ship it overseas. So tariffs, everybody wants to make'em political. If they're not political, it's, it's a tool that a country can use and like any other tool, you can use it good in the right way and it can be a good thing or you can use it the wrong way and it can be a bad thing. Okay? A hammer isn't good or bad. A hammer's, that's how you use it. Just a tool. But if you try to wipe your ass with it, it's probably not gonna be a lot of fun, right? It has it tasks that it's good at. Okay. So, and then. Another reason that I like tariffs, and this is like gets into the ethical issue, is the, the strong argument for tariffs is if you have a thing that you're competing with, so take cars, for example. America makes cars overseas, also makes cars, right? What if China started getting into manufacturing cars and China's labor's 25 cents an hour? China would be able to manufacture hyper cheap cars that presumably would be fairly good and American companies wouldn't be able to compete because we're trying to pay people. 30,$35 an hour with benefits and pensions and everything else, it would be impossible for the American auto industry to compete. So at which point the American government would step in and say, Hey, look, we're gonna tariff the fuck out of these, and rightfully so, because that country is engaging in borderline slave labor, which is ethically wrong, and we're not gonna allow you guys to benefit off that to that degree, while also gutting our own economy. Yeah. Which I think is a good thing. But regardless, I'm, I guarantee you if that situation happened, if it was a Republican or a Democrat in the office, whatever the opposite party was, would freak out and play it off like they want to crash the economy and they don't care about the average day American that wants to afford a good vehicle. Like no. At the end of the day, you have to draw moral line. As a country, I'm not going to allow all of you to basically reap the rewards of borderline slave labor for free. I think that's also a good ethical part of what a tariff can do. Mm-hmm. So, fascinat, is there any other questions? That's fascinating. Um, no comment over here. I'm more like, I guess I just am always confused at like the thought process behind like, I guess that's exactly what I thought was happening and I guess I am just like confused then how. The storyline that's happening in the media is like the media plausible is like is happening at all. Because I'm like, if you really look at what tariffs are and their purpose and whatever, like this doesn't even make sense. So like how is that even, how are those two things being connected? Do you know what I'm saying? It's because it's not about understanding. I mean, it took me five minutes to explain that. Yeah. To people that actually cared to listen. Um, I mean, you guys get it now. You'll probably get it for the rest of forever, but do you know how hard it is to get average Joe Blow that really doesn't give a fuck to sit down and understand something as complex as tariffs and then care? Or is it easier for the news to be like, well, I don't like this politician, and he just put a hundred percent tariff on something that costs 15 cents at the port of entry. Now it's gonna cost 30 cents at the port of entry. I suppose so we're just gonna say everything's gonna double in price, which is technically kind of true, but very misleading. Yeah. They are very much scare tactic. Yeah. I mean, that's all it is. Um, and it's always been. Yeah. Hmm. Okay. Interesting. Hmm. Okay. Did that explain it? Yeah. Okay. So, and this has been Girl Tariffs Girl Bath with the Fat Electrician. All right. Thanks Nick. Appreciate it. Absolutely. All right. Okay. And that was Nicholas. Cut. Yep. Okay, so things that were gonna take away, my whole thing was like, don't wipe your ass with a hammer. Okay? Yep. And what happened to unbiased media? Literally it died because the whole thing is just like now the media scares us into every opinion or thought or anything that we've ever had in our life. Mm-hmm. And it's all scare tactic. It's, and we have now found that we all follow, Jordan is my lawyer who gives unbiased news. She's absolutely gorgeous. Also, I call her on TikTok, I think. Yes. And I follow her on Instagram. I think it, and she does a good job, I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But that's where I, to follow anyone that does unbiased media. Mm-hmm. Like. News. That's what I like. They do a better job at explaining it too, I feel like. Mm-hmm. Like breaking it down, not just like, which is the point? Yes. Because there's no personal opinion in it. Right? Like I don't need to know this person's personal opinion because I could talk to Calissa and we can share our personal opinions about it. I can talk to Hannah and we could share our personal opinions about it. Like I don't need some random, like just gimme the facts and then we can all have our own opinions and we can discuss from there. Have you guys heard of marriage or people that are married like that, like are almost at a divorce because they cannot agree. Mm-hmm. Like if he doesn't have, or she doesn't have, they live in divided home. Yeah. Then they're just like, I don't think I can be with you. Yeah. And they will divorce over, uh, like crazy things if they can't agree on something like, oh, it's always political that I've read. Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm like, that's crazy. Yeah. Living in a, I don't. I don't know. I think I know some people that could be like that. Yeah. My mom and her husband are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Oh, really? Really? And I, I don't live with them, so I don't know what their discussions look like. Um, but there have been times where like her and I talk about something and then she's like, oh yeah, Lou agrees with, with what you're saying. And I think something else. Mm. Or like. Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. And Lou thinks something else or like, you know, yeah, Lou thinks something, you know, whatever. So like, but they're not, there's nothing wrong with like, having different opinions than people. It's just like the way that you go about it is, and that's where I am. A lot of people, like maturity is huge. Yeah. Um, Facebook fights. Mm-hmm. They're hilarious. I don't take them productive. Seriously. Never productive. You're never gonna change someone's mind. No. If you, if you write like a paragraph, like people already think what they think. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then I just read all the Facebook comments and they're like snapping at each other and I'm like, yep, this went very south. Yeah. Yeah. They're not proving their point. Yeah. So, yeah, I've just always heard that. Some people just mm-hmm. If you don't agree with me, I'm leaving you. I know. I hate that. Yeah. Are you one of those Issa? No. Craig and I very much agree. We're at the same level of caring about political things. Mm-hmm. And we like see things differently, but not very much. So I just can't imagine being in a marriage where someone really super cares about it. You're a true, yeah. Yes. Because Craig and I are just kind of like, okay, sure. I also feel like that's one of those things where. Like do, is that, do you have to discuss that with your partner? Right. Like all the time. Does that have to be like a focal point of your relationship? It's, it's like a hyper fixation. That's all the fo Yeah. Like can you have a friend that agrees with you that you can like, discuss things with, if it's so like, so important to you? I just, I don't dunno, I just like cut the cord with the phone. Like, I think if you just set the phone aside Yeah. For like two weeks. Go outside, take a walk. Like how much do those things affect your everyday actual life? Mm-hmm. I mean, not that much because I used to be hyperfocused on like the Illuminati. I know. Good job saying, I know I made sure to say it Illuminati so funny. And then like all like the child trafficking. Mm-hmm. Like it just consumed my brain and I'd step out in the real world and I'm like. No one's freaking out. There's no one here. Yeah. And I'm like, I just had to, I just had to cut everything that I was reading. I was like, okay, I can't read this anymore. Yep. We actually just had a message in church the other day about that and how kids just can't get away from it. And while like, so they have all of the drama at school and then they bring it home on their cell phone. Mm. And while there's not a real threat, they're perceiving it as a threat because it's in their face on their phone all the time. Right. They just can't get away from it. Yeah. And I have no idea like what that is like now. The bullying now, because there's social media. Mm-hmm. So like there's Snapchat, there's, and like who knows what's circulating through the school, you know? Yeah. My gosh. I just like, can't even, that's like other worldly to me, I can't even fathom. Yeah. That kind of scenario. Yeah. But like that sticks with them. Or like you get in an argument with a friend at school and then the argument escalates to after school to text message and everybody knows that we're not our best self when we're fighting Via text message. Yeah, yeah. Fighting in general. Yeah. Well, and then it's like that key and peel, spit, uh, sorry. That scene. You know, key and Peele? Mm-hmm. That comedy duo. Mm-hmm. One person would be texting one way, like all calm, but the other person was perceiving it as like, oh my God, they're so mean, they're hateful. And then like, you can't read, you know, through the lines of text message. I really like fighting over text personally. I do too. I'll fight anybody. Right, okay. So like if I sent you like a thumbs up or a period or a K. Yes. Yes. But the thing that I like that I know Craig is pissed. K. The thing that I like about texting though, is that it gives me a second to like think through what I'm gonna say and read it and digest it. Because I do have really a problem with like just saying things without realizing how it's gonna be perceived by someone else. Mm-hmm. Or like, and it comes out in a wrong tone or like. Like, it just doesn't make sense to the other person. And so it really does help me to like sit there and think through what I'm gonna say. Yeah. So, and I try to be like, when I write it out, I try to be like very, not like one way or the other. Not like too emotional, not like, too try to be unbiased. Yeah. I really do. I really do. I, because I really do struggle a lot with like, saying things without thinking about how it's gonna like Yeah. You know, the repercussions of that. So I, it's helpful to fight over text. Yeah. I don't know. Just run away. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I don't, text is hard. Um, speaking is like,'cause like I'm emotional at first and like mm-hmm. Like face to face when you see things you don't mean. Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. And I don't want that. Yeah. But that is, yeah. Just run away people. Yeah. Just kidding. Just non-confrontational. Just pretend like it didn't happen. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's a good solution. Just lock it up. You should be a marriage counselor. Lock it up. Play Just run away. Just run away. Just drop, put it in the closet. It's fine. You know what's interesting now that you brought up, um, marriage counseling? I've heard, I saw some like marriage counselor on Instagram or something, and if you lay on the floor while you're fighting, it's, and like you lay down. On the floor and continue your fight's a lot. So you're both like in a vulnerable position? Yes, and it's, it's so weird. Like I'll be in the middle of the fight and then I'll just like lay down on the floor and it's like less like, oh, I need to call. You get like, you don't realize how much you're carrying in your body. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's just like, oh, okay, I'm laying down now. This is, this is fine. This, the world's not on fire. I wanna see you do this at like a black tie event made argument. Yeah. We just like walk in and Craig and I are laying on the floor just back out, back out. It's funny. We don't do it. We, we did it like one time, but, um, you think it worked? Just kind of like, well, we're still married. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Boom. Solid advice. So there. Interesting. Well, speaking of, uh, marriage, did we find some Reddit, um, stuff? Yes, we did. Yeah. I actually have a kind of a marriage one. Okay. Do you want me to go first? Yeah. Okay. So this was actually an, this is brought up for a different episode. Um, we're just running together. We're doing a teaser. I don't know what we're doing. I think we should make it a separate episode. Okay. Okay. Stay tuned. Stay tuned for another Reddit episode. Yeah. Thanks to Danielle who reminded us that we did that one time. So thank you. This has been Tariffs. Tariffs Girl. Tariffs, girl Math, Hannah Calissa, and Sarah. Bye.