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83: Getting our Dopamine Hits, Summer Plans, New Music, Old Phones, and Our Kids Getting Older!
Yes. Hello. Hi, this is Hannah and Issa and Sarah. And today Sarah has a topic she'd like to discuss. Oh my, I know this. Sound effects. Yes. So I've done this for a long time and I didn't realize that this had a name and so I saw this on TikTok. Okay. Jazz series. Alright. No, but that would be awesome. Um, so it's called Dopamine Dressing. Okay. And so what that means is basically you kind of forfeit the idea of like, it needs to be stylish, it needs to be flattering, it needs to be anything other than just, it makes you happy, it gives you dopamine. Mm. Explain more. Is this clothing? Mm-hmm. Although, so this, this video that I watched, it kind of translate, translates into other parts of your life. So it could be like. Dopamine, like styling of your home decorating. Mm-hmm. So that for me is like, I don't know if we talked about this, but a while ago I was talking about salt and pepper shakers. Yeah. And there was one that was a, like eggs and toast or eggs and bacon on toast. And I just thought that was so funny and I wanted to buy it so badly just because I thought it was funny. Yeah. And every time I'd look at it, it would make me happy. Mm-hmm. And so that's like. Decor styling based on dopamine. Like it doesn't matter if things necessarily like match perfectly or like in style or, or any specific thing. It's just all based on like the things that make you exceptionally happy. Hmm. And so I was curious kind of what your thoughts on that are because this video that I was watching talked specifically about replacing your emotional eating habits or any really any kind of, um. Like bad habits with the dopamine in other areas of your life. Hmm. If that makes sense. Shopping. Yeah. So I feel like it could lead to some kind of shopping addiction where like the shopping itself becomes the dopamine rather than the object. Yep. Just going into the store just like excites me. Yes. Mm-hmm. Um, my dopamine hits. I need a little treat. Every time I go somewhere. So this is my little treat this morning. Mm-hmm. My little Chick-fil-A lemonade. Mm-hmm. Or like, um, I'll hit McDonald's up on the way here, like get a Diet Coke. Get a Diet Coke, um, mill Street, mocha in Decorah. Mm-hmm. If I'm ever in Decorah, I'm going to Mill Street Mocha and I'm gonna get a little coffee, a little drink. Danielle goes there a lot. A little. She loves it. Yes. So that is like what my current, so it's drinks kind of? Yeah, drinks. Drinks. Little treats. Drink gums. Drink gums. Mm-hmm. Which, like, is there anything wrong with that? Do you feel like that's detrimental to your, like success of whatever you No. Are working on? Okay. No. So I feel like that's one That's okay. Yeah. Where I feel like I've always struggled with like the emotional eating aspect. Mm-hmm. And so now like I wanna replace that with something that's healthier. You know? Mm-hmm. Yep. I bought, uh, like Chobani yogurts and a ton of apples. Mm-hmm. So like when I want to eat a whole thing of Swiss rolls mm-hmm. I'm like, no, just eat this apple. Yeah. But that's not the same thing. Oh, okay. This is like you, that's punishment. Yes. You replace, so you're getting dopamine when you eat the Swiss rolls. Yes. So instead of that in, you don't rely on that. You rely on like. When you see something, a piece of clothing that maybe isn't in style, which this is probably not for you'cause you're a very stylish, like in the trend dresser, I would say Aww. Not like in a bad way, but you know what I mean. No, I sound like, Aww. Okay, thanks. Yeah. But like you would maybe find something that's maybe not like traditionally cute, traditionally attractive, very stylish, but you would still buy it and wear it all the time because it just makes you happy when you wear it. So you replace the bad dopamine habit. With a positive dopamine habit. Mm-hmm. So you're replacing, you're never wearing clothes, in my case or whatever, that don't make you happy. Like, I'm not buying things just because they fit or because it's stylish or because I need something for this specific thing. I'm only gonna buy it if I really like it and it brings me dopamine, you know? Yeah. Curious, do you think as a society it's gotten more. I think we just like focus our dopamine in the wrong areas. That's the craziest thing. So like, I'm sorry, I just feel like TikTok shop is like mm-hmm. I used to like scroll past those videos, but now they're like, Hey, I really like that top that they're wearing. When, but that is that the But like, is the shopping the dopamine? Yes. Or is the actual object the shopping, when you, every time you wear that object, are you gonna get hit a dopamine and be like, dang, I love this shirt and I look so good. I love it. I have very few clothes that I feel that way about see, and then I feel like that puts me in a spiral of like being sad about what I look like and how I look. And then I get into more of a spiral of other things that are not good for me. Hmm. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. So I'm curious what you guys would replace your maybe like bad. Bad habit. Yeah, bad habit with a good habit. Dopamine style shopping. Mm-hmm. Lots of shopping is what I'm thinking of. Amazon, target. Amazon. And the shopping itself is the dopamine for you? Yes. So what, what could you replace that with? Ugh. Well, sometimes I need what I'm looking for. I don't feel like I spend frivolously. Okay. Um, what could I replace it with? Yeah. Like instead of like for Hannah, if she's shopping in store, like what could she do instead of shopping in store when she's just like, oh, I don't have anything to do. I'm just gonna go shopping.'cause I know it'll make me happy. Yes. To walk around the store, she could go get a little, treat him. I'm poop my pants like such my way. Oh man. Can I consult TikTok for this? Yeah. Because I'm just, okay. I'm not, let me pause here. Okay, back. I get it. I get it More with the house decor. Yeah. Okay. Of like blankets. I don't care what this looks like, I just like it. Mm-hmm. Um, my sister Kayla is the one to have this conversation with because she dopamine dresses, I feel like her and I are similar in a lot of ways. Yes. She dopamine dresses, she dopamine decors her house. She has lots, little things that make her very happy. Mm-hmm. And she loves to go thrifting and find the little things that make her happy. Mm-hmm. And, um, I totally get that. Me, I'm all about comfort. And comfort. Her face that you like, that are still comfortable, but like, putting on this sweatshirt is comfortable and it didn't gimme any dopamine. Hmm. Do you know what I mean? So maybe the dressing part of it's just not for you. No, I don't get into f. Fashion like that, I guess. Mm-hmm. And then home decor, the less is more like my house is very bland, minimal, very plain, very minimal. I don't have a lot of stuff. Yeah. So like salt and pepper shakers, I'm like, that would take up space on my counter. But dang. Every time I look at'em, every time I use them, I'll be smiling. If I shake some salt on my eggs, I'd be like, ha, I'm salting my eggs with my egg. Yep. Like that's just funny. Yeah. It just makes me laugh. Just makes me laugh. Thinking about it. Should do it. They might be on sale. I don't know. Where's it at? It was at Target. I just saw'em online. I just happened to cross'em online. I was like, oh, do it. What about you? You, what do you do? Um, uh, blankets. I'm a blanket person. You do have a lot of blankets. Yeah. Like anytime I sit in the chair, I have to have a blanket. Now it's to the point where my kids, if they, if they need to sit, they always need a blanket. And I'm like, yep, I'm pushing that on you. Yeah. Yeah. At my brother's house, you know, Nathan's just serving them on a silver spoon and they'll be like, uncle Nathan, can we have some juice? Uncle Nathan, can we have some popcorn? Uncle Nathan, can you get us a blanket? So Nathan's just running around his house serving my kids, and he's like, oh yeah, here's a blanket. So that's cute. Yep. Um, blankets, I got really bad and I still have like a closet full of blankets. I probably should like donate them or I could probably DI think the Humane Society is always looking for blankets. Oh yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But I don't want a dog on it. But then why do I care? I won't outta sight outta mind, you know what I mean? Yeah. I should just do it.'cause I'm, every time I go to TJ Maxx, I see their cute little blanket, uh mm-hmm. Rack. And I'm like, oh, look at this Snoopy one. Oh, look at this. Ribbon one. Oh look. Oh yeah, God, this isn't me pushing to for like we've talked about consumerism and stuff before. Oh, this isn't necessarily me pushing for consumerism. It's more like being extremely intentional with the things that you buy. Mm-hmm. Or consume or whatever. And replacing like the negative habits that I have that give me dopamine with positive habits instead. Mm-hmm. So like. With the dressing thing I'm replacing, like when I'm sad and I eat, that is cau It is sad and it causes sadness'cause then you get fatter obviously. But then when you only, so instead of doing that, I'm making sure that I'm intentionally dressing and and purchasing things only. Like, make me feel good and are happy. You know what I mean? Okay. So it's cutting a bad habit, replacing it with a good habit. Yeah. Type of thing. I, bad habit I have is grazing. I'll just eat. Just like to eat when it's like I'm bored when, yeah. Yeah. Just like, oh, Craig's not home yet. Kids are playing. I don't know what to do. I'm bored. Yeah. I'm gonna eat something. Yeah. You know, have bowl cereal. I'm gonna do this. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think of what I would replace that with. I don't know. It doesn't have to be necessarily connected foot. It's almost like you gotta keep your hands busy. Should we take a knitting? Yeah, maybe you pick up like cross stitch or something and so like when you're really bored, I love that like. How fun would that be? Oh, that's a no from you. Okay. Alright. No quilting, no cross, no crocheting, stitching, no crocheting. But what if you, what if your cross stitches were something that was really funny? But then, but then you get stuck in when things are funny. You get stuck into like, going into Joanne to be like, I need this because my cross stitching will like, make, it'll, so then you get onto a new, but, and what and how though you'll get it onto a new obsession and then like, spend more money pour all. I mean, but the, the point is to still is not being intentional about the things that you do. Hmm. So, because if you're, if you're picking up cross stitching, if that's what you're doing, you know, maybe you pie, buy a pack of thread or whatever, that's all different colors, and then maybe you are like trolling Instagram or Etsy or Pinterest or whatever for like funny things that you can mm-hmm. Cross stitch. I don't know. Just then every time that you look at that cross stitch. You'll laugh and you'd be like, dang. Yep. I had a roommate, a good friend of mine, um, her mom was a Pinterest mom. Mm-hmm. So she would go and print all these projects on Pinterest. I mean, she had like, adopted and fostered like a plethora of children. Mm-hmm. So like, how do you keep all 12 kids happy? You're gonna make'em do projects. Yeah. So our, which is expensive. Yeah. Our, when I lived with her. She made all this stuff, like she had all these projects hang, hung up on the wall everywhere. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, how do you have the time to like do all these projects? And she's like, when we were young, our mom would print off all these projects on Pinterest and we had to do'em, like, there was no just sitting and watching tv. You had to keep your hands busy while watching tv. Mm-hmm. So she, she could knit. She could, I mean, she was just crafty. Mm-hmm. But like. Her mom pushed that onto them. Mm-hmm. Should make that rule at our house. Yeah. And I'm like, you know, that's actually not a bad thing. Like keeping, you know mm-hmm. That coordination. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They always really implement that on your children. Yeah. Fine. Motor skills are so not great, I've noticed in a lot of kids. Yeah. Which I don't know how it was when we were kids'cause I obviously looked out myself, but that was a lost cause. There are a lot of kids that are not. Yeah. Like, so I got like these little um. My first potting, uh, like little kit for children. So maybe I'll have the kids grow some stuff Grow, yeah. Teaches them responsibility and all that kind of thing. Mm-hmm. And just kinda show'em.'cause Cutter, he picked up some dandelions that were all in different stages. Mm-hmm. You know, one that wasn't even sprouted yet, one that was a full one, and then the dandelion fluff. Mm-hmm. He's like, are they all the same? And I'm like, kind of. You're just seeing the progression life cycle. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So I'm like, so he, you know, he's definitely like me. You gotta see it. Mm-hmm. You don't like to read about it. Doing those kinds of things also opens up so many opportunities for your kids to find like their passion in life. Yeah. Things that they're so interested in. Yeah. Because I feel like I never really did that. I just watched a lot of TV when I was a kid. Same. And I wish I wouldn't have, I know, I always wish that my parents would've pushed me to like do projects. Or push sports really busy, so I don't fault her for that. Yeah, they were, they were busy too, so, and like they didn't think of that stuff. Yeah. I feel like we were in survival at that point. It wasn't, yeah. They grew up in a survival mode and then they just kinda to us and now we're just kinda like, oh, we should try that. Yeah. So I'd like them to try something new. But you know what I appreciate about you. Every time that we talk about like what you're gonna do for the rest of the day, you always have like a very solid. Solidly booked plan. You're like, I'm gonna go do this and I'm gonna go do this and I'm gonna go do this. And then you're like, what are you gonna do? And I'm like, uh, I might read for like the next eight hours. You know, like, so that, I appreciate that about you. So like even though you had that experience growing up, you still like do a lot of things. I feel like when I don't have the kids, that's when I have to get stuff done. Mm-hmm. I dunno. And then when I do have the kids, I don't like to do anything. Mm-hmm. Except now that's, you know, it's summer you go to the pool, you know, he's, but we have family swim time. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do you guys have a pool at your house? No, but we have family swim hour at our, like city pool. Oh. And so I was telling Gus about that, and he's like, really? So there's not gonna be like crazy people? No. And I was like, no, they have to be, they have to be with a parent. Mm-hmm. And it's very calm. Mm-hmm. Oh. So we're going to try to hit that a couple times this week, I think. Nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing. Or is it usually crazy otherwise? Yeah. Um, I think it can be. Hmm. Yes. Oh my gosh. A lot of young people. A lot of old people, A lot of. Yeah, some, some of the kids are kind of sweet because cash, you know, he wants to go in the deep end with Cutter, so he'll be like right here, like the water's like up to his chin, chin cutter away for me. And he's like trying to inch towards him. And this little boy was like, are you okay? Little boy, he didn't see that I was right behind him, but I'm like, he's okay. I'm, I'm right here. Okay. And then he went off on his day and I'm like, wow. You could have saved your life. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was sweet. Do you get in a swimsuit when you go? Yes. Okay. I'm thinking not. That's how I got this tan. Oh. I'm thinking about not, so I only have to pay$3 instead of six or whatever. Get in the water. I don't love swimming, to be honest. Supposed to be like really hot this next coming week. So perfect. It'll be perfect for the pool. Uh, I bought new sunscreen so that I can, that's exciting. Try to protect myself, not die this summer. Nervous. Yeah. What other plans do you have for the summer? Anything good? Calvin has potentially a lot of traveling going on, which I don't love, but it's okay. Where to? Um, he's planning on going to Texas, I think, to train. Oh. With, um, one of the guys that was just here for a seminar. Mm-hmm. Um, and then his grandma's not doing like super well, so I'm thinking, I'm trying to push him to. Go and visit and like spend a weekend and just Where does she live? Spend time with her, Arizona. Nice. Yeah. Although it's summer, which, but his parents have a pool and they're a little community, so Yeah. They could, he could probably, but um, so I'm trying to push him to do that. And then we always go to Brainerd in the summer. Mm. So that Calvin can train. Yes. Love brainer. Yeah. It's a, it's a beautiful area. I wish that we didn't go in summer because it's so packed with people. Mm-hmm. And it's more expensive and stuff, but, um, we always have a good time. Yeah. We go to the zoo, we go to like they have a wonderful zoo in Brainerd. Yes. They have a couple of zoos actually in the area that are really nice. The one especially north or whatever it is. Yes. Um, and the kids have really enjoyed that. Mm-hmm. So we'll probably do that again this summer. That's kind of our like family vacation that we do. Yeah. Spend a weekend up there and do that stuff. Nice. That's fun. Yeah. Nice. Our schedule's packed with baseball. Did you end up going mountain biking? No, last weekend. Oh shoot. Yeah, you were on some trails. Yes. We, we had the kids with, so for hiking, right? We had some hiking. Okay. Yep. We did some hiking, um, biking yet? Yeah. Okay. Yep. And then baseball were just packed. Baseball boys had games the last two days they got practice. You did stand doing BA baseball too? Mm-hmm. Okay. Is this his first year? He did it for like two games last year and he was just too little. Okay. And now this year he's doing great. Got, he loves it. I'm glad. Yeah. That's awesome. Um, and then we booked a KOA in July. Oh, nice. A cabin for a weekend. Yep. Okay, cool. Um, and then we're gonna do Lost Island Theme Park in Waterloo. Cool. So that'll be fun. You do that last year? Mm-hmm. We did a K last year. Uh, Cabela's? No. Where'd you go? Wisconsin. Dells, Wisconsin. That's where you went? Yes. Okay, got it. Yep. And I'd love to go back to the Dells again. It's just so expensive. Mm-hmm. So expensive. Yeah. But it's so fun. So I don't know. And it's super expensive in the summer especially. Um, on the weekends. Is the inside or outside? Both. Okay. Inside and outside. So if you went like in the spring or the fall, like you could still still do it. It'd just be chilly. Yeah. Okay. Yep. How about you planes? Um, Nick's traveling, and then I think, uh, we're gonna do like a, I know donut got like a big cabin for everyone in South Carolina. Cool. Oh, and Nick's planning on bringing the boys and I'm like. Okay. You bring Lydia. I would like to, I'd like to bring someone. Mm-hmm. So like we can go off and be with them, do do thing. Mm-hmm. And not have to like haul the kids with, so we'll see. We'll see what happens. Because I think he got it for like a week and I'm like, wow. I mean, you don't necessarily have to spend all your time doing, like with those people. You can do your own thing a little bit too. Yeah. So that'd be nice. Mm-hmm. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Yeah. Otherwise, otherwise, um, just swimming at the pool. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I wanna do. Yeah. I love swimming. You're a little fish. Yes. It's so funny. I have a lot of like ambitions for this summer in terms of like work, like getting a lot of work done and painting. I have a lot of painting I'd like to do this summer in your house. Yeah. And I wanna take up watercolor this summer. Ooh. But you know, that's one thing I would consider is doing like a, getting into painting. Mm-hmm. Like acrylic paint. Oil paint. Like watercolor. Watercolor, yeah. Maybe acrylic. I dunno. Yeah. Yeah. That's one thing I would think about. I feel like water would, color would just be so fun. Yeah. But I would need a class first. They have a lot of great classes online. Oh. Yeah, YouTube waterproof for beginners library too. Yeah, the library I think has like adult coloring too. Do they? I think we tried to go to that though that one time and it, they were like, no, it's just for a separate group, which like, I'm pretty sure that's not true because I've seen that class since then and it's just like open to the public, so I feel like that was a lie. No. Well, I always thought about like me and Sarah, we should have like a coloring book, um, like just a session. Mm-hmm. But like, it can just be with like just gals. Fun. We should just have a chat and color. Yeah. Color and chat. It's like people who have wine nights except for coloring and talking. Yeah. That could work. I think it'd be fine. We could just color while we're podcasting too, and chat and record the episode. And you just hear it's, it might be like an ass MR thing. Ooh, yeah. Asmr. Asmr. Oh, oh god. Sorry. I was like speaking parcel tongue. Did you see that? Um, Tom Felton is gonna be like reprise his role on Broadway. Can he sing? I have no idea, but I think, I would guess, I don't know who that is. Jake o Malfoy. Malfoy. Oh. He's like really holding onto this role and I love that for him. Yeah. Well I wish, that's kind of surprising to me that he would, hold on. Like, I thought he would've been booked for bigger and better things. You know, after Harry Potter, I don't know that he's been in a lot of stuff since then. No, they say he's, you know, kind of cringe when that's all he talks about is Harry Potter. Yeah. But you know what, if that was your big break. Hold onto it guy. Well, some people just like get turned off. Like Corbin Blue, always talking about high school musical that he was in high school musical. The Coach Bolton, who played Zach and Nick Lansky, hold onto it. Did you see that she had an interview not that long ago was um mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. With what they, her cameos weekly. They did? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. She's like, I'm gonna sing Good Morning, Baltimore until I die. Until I can't do it anymore. She's, I'm gonna be doing cameos till like the day I die. Yep. And I was like, good for you, girl. Get that bag. Yeah. Well, she hasn't really popped up on my feed. Like now it's just to the point like. You know. Okay. I've got a question for you. Along the same line. Calvin keeps bringing up Benson Boone Uhhuh and, um, the hate that he is getting. Yes. Yeah. And I'm like, why? What's the hate he is getting? They think he's just like a try hard. Calvin said like a government psyop. What? That he was just planted like a industry plant. Oh. That like he brings no originality. Let's be real. Who out there right now that's in the music industry brings any kind of originality? Well, they think he's like ripping off like Harry style's look.'cause I don't know how Harry, um, like his sexuality, like, but like he comes off more like he just doesn't do it as good as Harry styles. Mm-hmm. Or Harry styles. Just like, I'm gonna say this again, but in this day and age, who is different? Exactly. Nobody is different. Everyone is cut from the same cloth. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They all sound the same. They're all, they all look the same. They're all like, have you been seeing all the hate that Sabrina Carpenter's new song is kind of getting? Mm-hmm. They're like, it's kind. They're like, it kind of sounds like Chapel Rowan song. Is it the Manchild one? Yes. Okay. And now there's, they're kind of trashing on that producer. Oh, what's his name? Uh, da da Jack Antonoff. Yes. They say that Jack Antonoff is producing the same song over and over again. Hmm. Like, he's like, he's not changing Original. Yeah. Elle what? He's not doing anything original. No. Is he producing for Chaperone and Sabrina Carpenter, or what a chaperone? Um, pretty much everyone that's. In the game right now. Danny Negro, who's that? I don't know who that is. Nigro, he does Olivia, Rodrigo Chapel. Rowan. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. But like the, the same sound. Yeah. And everyone's like, okay, this, yeah. I just, um, I don't think we're gonna see like, long pop icons like Whitney Houston. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We're just not gonna see that. There won't be another Taylor Swift, where it's like 15 years of pop hits. No. Because I think everything would be short lived. Yes. Because already Megan Thee stallion, she had a song come out, what? Whenever, whatever, or something. It was terrible. I tried to listen to it. I tried to get into it. I'm like, I just can't. And it didn't even chart really. Mm-hmm. It charted really low for her. She was confused. She's like, guys, hotties, what's up? How come my song's not charting? And everyone's like, you sing about the same thing. Yep. Like. This goes to, you can only listen to so much. This goes to, um, what I was hearing about Selena Gomez too and her album in she with Benny Blanco. Yes. I am not a huge fan necessarily, but I did listen to it once through and I felt there were some cute songs. Yeah, there was a couple good songs, but it felt, it didn't feel cohesive to me. Mm-hmm. And it didn't feel like Selena Gomez, which. It was kind of the point that they were making was like, she doesn't have an original sound. She doesn't have her sound, a sound. That's just her that she likes. And she basically was made this album with Benny because Benny is Benny. Yeah. But Benny produced so many songs. Yes. From like every single artist. But people are saying that all of her songs, so like the one that she did with Gracie Abrams or whatever. Apparently that sounds exactly like Gracie Abrams. Yes. And the one that she did, there was one that sounds exactly like what Charlie X Carpenter makes. There's one that sounds exactly like what Charlie XCX makes. There's one that sounds exactly like what Chapel makes. And so everyone's like, girl, get your own identity. Like, don't be ripping off. But then it's like, how do you get your own identity when you're like in a, like, well, and she's already been in the industry for so long, right? Mm-hmm. And you're like in a, I don't, in a fishbowl, basically, of you're in all the same things. You're all gonna hear, it's all gonna sound the same, working with the same people. Yep. It's all gonna sound the same. Yep. I think that feel like now people are more aware of that. We, back in the day, people didn't care as much. Yeah. I think that's why like the eighties, like they just, everyone had a, their own sound. Mm-hmm. That's not the case anymore. No. How More sounds, I love 60 seventies and eighties music.'cause they all sounded different. I know. My parents have the same thing. You like this music? Yeah. Of like, are are you talking like ac DC? No, no, no. Okay. Like a, I don't know, can't think of anyone at the top of my head, but like. I just love their sound'cause it's all different. Fleetwood Mac, you're talking like Fleetwood. I just know I disagree. I think they all sound the same. Like classic rock a little bit. Yes. Classic rock. Yeah. They all have like a very similar sound. Yes. Like. Guns N Roses. Mm-hmm. But you could tell it's a Guns n Rose song'cause you could hear Axel. But is that really, I don't know. I don't know. Just from a listener who doesn't like personally know those voices are like mm-hmm. Just a casual listener. I think they all sound the same. Mm-hmm. See, I say that way about country music. All these country, like especially the men who current country for sure. Country bro. Trucks, boots, girls, beer. I love my truck. She broke my heart. I drank a beer and went down that country road. I thought you were gonna say something about fart. I thought you were gonna say something about fart too. Fart. So that it would rhyme. Would rhyme. Oh, she broke my heart. She broke my heart. Let out a big fart because she let out a big fart. That'd be Calvin's person. Yeah, that's Calvin's. Heartbreak up. Yeah. Found a girl. She was the one for me, but she farted and it was disgusting to me for people don't know. Uh, Calvin dumped a girl because she farted on the first date in like middle school. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I love that. He's got standards, I guess you'd never know now. Never look at us together. Ugh. Just roast him. But, uh, this one, this coworker that I worked with, she had a son and he went on a first date with this girl and she was like, how did it go? And he is like, it was fine. I thought about, you know, calling her the next day, but she took a french fry off my plate and I just won't call her back again. Oh. And I'm like, what? She didn't ask. I guess they're just talking and she just takes a fry off his plate and just that Is he very presumptuous. He was very like, turned off by it and he's like, I'm not calling her back. Yeah. And I'm like, seriously? Is he gonna ghost her? I, this, this happened like eight years ago. Oh, okay. But he, no, Craig and I would not make it. Yeah. Because every time, like even yesterday we were in Culver's, I'm like, I'm just really not that hungry. I'm not gonna get anything. Yes. All his fries. Bite of his burger. Sip of his shake. They need to, they need to call it like the girlfriend, wife special. Yes. Every, I have girlfriend. Can I have the girlfriend, wife special? Of course. It's like extra, extra. Just like half of everything. Yeah, but he has, you have half a sandwich. Yeah, half a little bit of cheese curds or fries. I love when Kevin gets cheese curds because I always only want like a handful, like maybe 2, 3, 4 of'em. And I never want the whole thing. Yeah. I just want like a couple, like I was thinking about this at the movie theater. Mm-hmm. Like I just want, I just want the bite size popcorn Please. Like literally just like the kids. A couple handful. Yeah. Yeah. And then you're done. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like take three scoops and I'm like, okay, I'm done. Yep. Mm-hmm. But I just have to have popcorn. Yeah. I won't eat the whole thing. I just want like a couple bites and I'm good. I love a bunch of crunch. Bunch of crunch. I get a bunch of crunch. It's like the bite size. Um, crunch bars. Oh, crunch bars. But they're like bite-sized little pieces. Ooh, those are real good. That sounds good. Love a bunch of crunch. Bunch of crunch. Uh, what's your favorite candy bar? Mine is Candy Hershey's. Cookies and Cream. Oh, Calvin's too. That's too much. Calvin loves that. Very rich. Yes, very rich. That's why I only take the little bars. Oh. I am on a Kit Kat kick right now. I just bought the, those little mini unwrapped ones. Ooh, they're smart because I only like the ti because if you get the full size, there's too much cookie to chocolate ratio. But if you get the small ones, it's a perfect ratio. And so I just get the small ones. Eat two or three of'em done. Perfect. Go home Ready. I love butter fingers. Really? Yes. Not a fan. Oh, I just love'em. So good. What do you like about it? I don't know. I just like it and I always associate Bart Simpson with it because, uh, he, um, was like their spokesperson for Butter Fingers for a long time. Really? But he's a cartoon. Yeah. How does that work? Well, this one, the Simpsons were like, the Simpsons, like, did you hear There's a King of the Hill revival I heard. And I'm nervous. Why? If they get all the, the writers back. Do that same kind of humor. Yeah, I think it'll be good. But there's a lot of, um, people who passed away. Mm-hmm. Oh really? Dale Gribble, he's passed. Um, what was that one girl? I don't know who that is. Brittany Murphy's character. Brittany Murphy. Yep. I just saw a post on this. I wouldn't know otherwise, but yeah, I saw Brittany Murphy, Brittany Murphy, Dale Gribble, and then Jonathan Joss, who played John Redcorn. He just was unexpectedly. Passed. Hmm. A neighbor shot him. Oh my God. Oh, I heard about that. I did hear about that. I think he was in San Antonio. Mm-hmm. And they showed his house. I'm like, Hey, I think I passed his house.'cause Nick would show me all these millionaire houses. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, well that's a nice house. Yeah. But I think him and his neighbor have always had like these disputes. Wow. And I don't know if it was a gay issue or not, so, but I didn't know he was gay. Yeah. And so, yeah, the neighbor just pulled out his gun and just Wow. Right there. Wow. Wow. In other news, similar news. Um, did you hit the ghost adventurous guy? The, with his wife hired to hit man to try to kill him? Yeah. I saw that. They're in, um, trial. They're in trial right now. I saw him like ple crying. Mm-hmm. He's like, I thought we loved each other. Mm-hmm. And the whole time you just wanted me out. Mm-hmm. Sad for his money. Which like, how much money can you really make from Ghost Adventures, but maybe a lot, I don't know. Well, just what people do for money. Yeah, like that's just, it's very on theme with my book series that I'm reading. Oh God. It's sort of like mafia based, where there's like the, the last week, week, it was hockey. The week before that was soccer and now it's the mafia. Yeah, it was baseball before that. Okay. Yeah. This week it's ma. They're all teams, you know? That's true. It's, it's, um, a hitman. It's a team theme, a hitman who's crazy and the skull king is trying to get him, kill him so he can get his wife, who was, they were in an open marriage. Hmm. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. Yes. Wow. Speaking of mafias, aren't you watching the Celebrity Apprentice? Yes, I'm still, who's a cel? Who's the celebrity or who are who, which season am I on? Is that what you're asking? Oh, yeah. Which season? Yes. And who are the celebs? Um, Goldberg was a wrestler Goldberg. Oh, hey. Yes, I know. I've met him. Yes, you've met him? Yeah. Okay. Just casually like, oh yeah, I know him. He was at the shooting range. Oh, nice. Mm-hmm. I was like, oh, Nick's like, oh, that's, uh, Goldberg. And he's like, I sell mores than that guy Katie Cake. He probably listens to our podcast. It's gonna, he's like, shout out. Shout us out. Yeah. Um, Sharon Osborne. Cyndi Lauper, um, city Lauper dead. No, she's, no, she's still kicking. She's still kicking. I dunno why she thought she was dead. Um, uh, Brett Michaels, he's dead, right? No. Oh, nope. You're thinking of the guy, the singer, Michael. No, no. Michael Bule is not dead either. Michael, uh, the Gay George Mic? No, not George Michael. Oh, Michael. No, Michael George. Michael. Is it George Michael? Yeah. That did Wham from Wham. That's Christmas. That guy from Wham. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a long time ago. But next season, oh, sorry. Once we finish this season, we're trying to like race through this season because the next season is Meatloaf Gary. Busey John Ridge. Wow. Like the. RIF Prime season. Yeah. Of celebrity apprentice that everybody knows. Reality, trash. Very bey. Wow. God. Very bey. I hate boxes. Oh my gosh. He is funny. Meatloaf funny. He got taken out right away though, didn't he? No, he made about halfway through. Okay. Yeah. But he got really emotional. He had a big, big kind of dramatic exit, so Wow. Yeah, he got really emotional.'cause he sucked or what? Well, I think he got frustrated with Gary. Oh, ooh. Were they like on a team? Who wouldn't? Honestly. Yeah. Gary Busey. Gary just looks, I saw his mugshot. That terrified me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like goofy. He's like, oh my God. He's a little goofy. Yeah, he is goofy. So that is the fun in the Friedman house. What do you watch the kids when you guys like Celebrity Apprentice do. Really? Yeah. Gannon colors. Carver watches it with us and Anders does whatever Anders does. I'm serious. Nice. Uh, Craig watches Harry Potter when I'm not home. Just continuously. Yes. Like once he gets through book, uh, movie five or whatever, then he starts over again. Yeah. Okay. Yep. That's so funny. Yeah. And carver's really catching onto it. Um, that's awesome. Can't wait for the boys.'cause I'm like, oh, I can't wait to introduce Trilogy to you. Mm-hmm. We're gonna watch Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, um, what's the other one? Star Wars. No. Star Trek? No. Hell no. Okay. No stars. No stars for hand. Okay. No outer space. That's too nerdy. Very nerdy. Um, pirates of the Caribbean? Yes. Mm-hmm. Oh, Craig, they've gone through Pirates of the Caribbean too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think they'd really like it. Yeah. So, yeah, I wanna compliment Carver because at your birthday he was just such a little gentleman. Oh, was he? Yeah. I told you maybe you were drunk at this point, but probably he just like came up to me and he was like, hi Sarah, how are you? And I was like, um, hi. I'm good. How are you? And he is like, I'm good. And then he just walked away and I was like, okay. Oh my gosh. That's so sweet. It was so, I was like, how do you even remember my name? I met you like twice. Oh my gosh. So sweet. So sweet little boy. That's, he is sweet. He's not sweet. But you know, Gannon is sweet. Is he was sweet at, in that moment. He was very sweet. Carver is a little bit more like me. Are you feeling like you're getting to like pre puberty hormones with him? No. Really? Nope. I feel like I'm getting there with Gus. What? Not puberty, but like pre puberty. Okay. Because I feel like he's getting to a point where he's becoming more defiant and not like defiant in a. Mean way, defiant, because he thinks that other people will think it's funny. Mm. And like he, so examples, I'm so confused. Like, we'll be he'll. He'll, he's just show off. He's like, Calvin, he's a show off. Okay. And so like a peacock? Yeah. So I'll be like, I'll pull him aside kind of, and be like, Gus, like you're being rude, you're being disrespectful, you're not following directions. Like you need to stop whatever. He'd be like, no. Oh, oh, oh. And he'll kind of smirk at me and smile and I'm just like, guys, I'm being serious with you right now. Like, cut it out and then he'll kind of, you know, shape up a little bit. But I feel like we're getting to that like start of the teenage rebellion. Yes. A little bit. And I'm really annoyed about it already. Yeah. Like I thought that I was frustrated with him in his like. The last few years when he was just like kind of a cry, cry about stuff. This is so much worse. Oh man. I guess we do have tweens. Yeah, they're a tween is between the ages of eight and 12. Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. Eight. Eight. Mm-hmm. This like, I feel like nine and 12. Yeah. Feel like would be a But our kids are almost nine. They're eight and a half. Yeah, they're almost nine. Oh gosh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah. It's pretty wild. Yeah. So. It's just driving me a little nuts. Don't you feel old? I do feel old. I feel old. I do feel old. Yeah. Almost 10-year-old.'cause then once they're nine, they're almost 10. I know. Have you started a 10-year-old? We, so the other day, I kinda want your opinion, your guys' opinion about this. I was texting Calvin and he was doing something with Nick, I think. I was texting him and I was like, Hey, I really wanna make this certain thing for dinner, but I need to go to the grocery store for just like these couple things. Oh no, he was at the gym. I was like, you can either stop on your way home and get him, or like, I'd like to go and get him. And um, so I was like, but Gus is home, Ronson's home. So like, how do we feel about me running to the store for like 20 minutes while you're not here? Gus is eight six or Bronson's six. Mm-hmm. Like, is that too young? Do we feel like I'm only gonna be gone like 20 minutes? Like how do we feel? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And he was like, well I feel like,'cause we live across the street from a gas station. He is like, well if, if you can get at the gas station and you just walk across the street, it's gonna take you five minutes. I would feel okay with that, but like more than that I think maybe is not good. And I was like, okay. Okay. I mean, they all, they know the rules, right? Yeah, they do. And honestly, Don, they don't spend the whole, don't start stove on fire. Don't they would spend the whole time playing video games or watching tv? Honestly. Sure. I think like, you know, if you get them settled mm-hmm. And they're just, their eyes are glued to the screen. Yeah. I think if he like just step out of the room quietly, I think they would be okay. Like Gus would know, probably would've, would've told Gus. I wouldn't want him to like go looking for me and not be able to find me. Yes. Um, we got a home phone for those, that exact reason. See, that's, that's what I was talking to. I was like, do we just turn on an old cell phone mm-hmm. And be like, okay, you know how to call me smartwatch, you know how to text me a good like smartwatch for kids. Mm-hmm. Where like all they can call is mom or dad. Mm. You can see their location. Yeah. And that's, I mean, I think that's what, uh, a banker told Nick. He's like, my kids won't have cell phones. They'll have smart watches. Okay. Hmm. And so Nick is like, what do you, how, how do you feel about a smartwatch? And my friend Holly, she got a smartwatch for her daughter because her daughter would, you know, school go on the bus. Mm-hmm. And then Holly can track her daughter. Right. And the daughter can call her mom if she ever needs anything. Yeah. So that might be a pretty close a, a pretty good option. Mm-hmm. Smart watch for kids. So if you have a smart watch for your kids and it's going out great. Let us know. Yeah. I, I'm curious'cause I feel like. It's so crazy'cause I feel like six for Bronson is really young to be at home under the like direction of Gus. Mm-hmm. But Gus is eight and like he knows not to use the stove not to like do all these things. He knows not to answer the door. Yeah. Like he would literally just be playing video games the whole time. Yeah. So then. I don't know. Yeah, no, he's very, I'm just being weird about it. I'm not sure. No, very responsible. I remember I dropped something off at your house and I rang the bell and everything. Mm-hmm. And I was like, hi, go get your mom. Like, I'm like, yeah. And like he just immediately knew to grab you. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Even though he knows me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He still didn't open the door for me. He waited for you, Sarah? Yeah. To come. To the door. And you came with your little bonnet? Yep. Oh yeah. I probably was literally laying in bed. That's funny. Yeah. So like, yeah. I was like, wow. Yeah, I'm a big boy. Yeah. Big responsible boy. Mm-hmm. He's relatively responsible, but it does make me nervous. Yeah. But it would feel less nervous if he had a way to contact me. So look into a smart watch. Hmm. Yeah. Then what do you do for school though? Do you let him work at school? Um. Um, they, I mean she does wear her to school. Yeah. But like, I don't think it's become an issue yet. Okay. Because I don't know, there she's and stuff are already becoming an issue Yeah. In schools. Yeah. I think, didn't Reynolds see if we had a cell phone? Didn't Reynolds sign something where no children can have cell phones or something? I don't know. Maybe. I can't remember. She's signing all these things and I'm like, interesting. Yeah. She's something else. Yeah. So, uh. I think if like smart watch, if kids use them responsibly, I don't think there should be an issue for school. Well, we did have some issues last year with kids with watches, but it was like child to child contact. Not like them contacting their parents necessarily. Yeah. Texting each other like that could have been the issue more than right. Or they're just like, it's like a fidget. Yeah. They don't use it as a fidget toy. Yeah. Yeah. See, but then if we had a cell phone that we just had at home. And like it was off unless we left. Mm-hmm. Flip phone, I dunno. Yeah. Something, I dunno, a jitterbug, I just want them to be able to call me or text me like I want them. I, you know. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I'm like, I feel weird that we're like entering this, we're entering a very new stage of like our kids' childhood right now. Yeah. So it's like the, the precipice of a very big change. Mm-hmm. You guys have an iPad or anything? Yes, I do have an iPad, but it's connected to my thing. So like if he, if I texted him, like it would show up on the iPad Yeah. Or like, I'm sorry if I texted it would like text it to your It would text myself basically. Yeah. So why couldn't you leave the iPad with him without. If he texted me, it would basically, I wouldn't get a notification would because it would come through on the iPad. Oh yeah. That sucks. Yeah. So I'd have to like have a new Apple ID or something for it, which I don't have. Yeah. Which, and I don't really want them to have like another way to play games necessarily. Right. So I wouldn't want a different iPad. Okay. And like if we had a phone, I just figured with like FaceTime like, Hey mom, like look at this fire in the background. Which is why it was like if we had an old iPhone sitting at home somewhere that we could just turn on as long as it could call text FaceTime. Mm-hmm. Like I don't care, like I don't wanna have games on it or anything, but my mom, the hoarder dropped all these old cell phones onto me. I bet. I, hold on really. She dropped off all these old like flip phones that I had, or all these old smartphones that I had mm-hmm. Growing up and I'm like, mom, just take, why did she keep'em? I don't know. She's a hoarder. That's so funny. She should have traded'em in and gotten like credit or whatever for'em. Well, and I think this was when it wasn't cellular at the time it was Radio Shack. Oh my gosh. Where Lit? Lit. You could buy a smartphone for a penny. What? Yes. So you would go and like, Hey, I am, it's time for an upgrade. And they'd be like, okay, what phone do you want? I'm like, I want that phone. And they're like, okay, just keep this phone and then that is nuts. Yeah. I mean, trade-ins really weren't a thing. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. You just kept all your old phones. What? Yeah. I feel like we didn't, man, remember, but this was, this was a Radio Shack thing. Yeah. Did we have a Radio Shack back then, or was that where you were, where you grew up? This Yes, because, um, there was no iPhones. It was all Oh, yeah. Androids. Yeah. And I didn't know that was a thing until you said something and you're like, yeah, we had a Radio Shack, but they didn't have, they didn't carry iPhones. We had you, we had US Cellular, they didn't carry iPhone until like I was maybe in college. You a cellular debt. Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah. I think I was in college. Yep. When they started carrying, yep. Went to Radio Shack and then went to Cellular. Mm-hmm. And I've just always Android. Android and Android. Mm-hmm. Samsung. Yep. I was a Google, I think Samsung, Google something. Yep. Yeah. And maybe they're different. I'm not sure. So I'm just like, okay. Hmm. And I like, at the time, this was an everyone's smartphones. They were, they were all different, but they were all very cool. Mm-hmm. So watching high school musical and when all the cell phones go off and like the sidekick, I mean, it just, the everyone's phones match. I felt like their personalities. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, why can't we bring that back? I know everything's the same now. There's no personality. No, this is what I'm saying. Everything is cut from the same cloth. Everybody's the same. Everything is the same. Mm-hmm. There's no originality, no personality in anything. Mm-hmm. Like I, it should be a wow factor. Mm-hmm. With the way Chapo dresses, but I'm like, it's not, I saw, I've seen that. There's nothing new about that. I've seen it, lady Gaga, and then before Lady Gaga it was like David Bowie, and before David Bowie, it was Elton John, and before him it was Elvis. Or you know, when they thought he was like too showy. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Michael Jackson. Yeah. We've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. This brings me back to the dopamine dressing thing I'm telling you, and we've made it full circle. Yeah. Just have some real originality in your lives, people. I won't. Yeah. But I feel like it works for you, like you look not, not like in a mean way. I feel like it works for you in that like you just look like put together and you look trendy and like classy. You know what I mean? Yeah. All the little tween girls think I'm really cool. Good. They like my, they like my ankle bracelet. Wow. The pool. They're like, Ooh, I like your, I like your toes, and I like your ankle bracelet. I'm like, thank you. Your pool sounds fun. Wow. Come here. I should bring the kids. Yeah, bring the kiddos. That'd be fun. It's at 11 to 12. That's our family time. That's the family time. So it won't be chaotic. Yeah. And then we'll have lunch afterwards. Yeah. That would be fun. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That would be fun. Maybe Calvin would even come to the pool. Where's Craig right now? Jealous. Summertime. So would he go to the pool? Craig? Would Craig go to the pool? Um, I don't think he wouldn't go to the pool. But he wouldn't take work off to go to the pool. No. So yeah, Nick would never go to the pool. Oh, never. Well, I'm not a swimmer, so I usually make Calvin swim because I need someone to watch cash.'cause I wanna take, cut it on the slide. Mm. That's always tricky. Yeah. Well, our kids will not go down the slide, so you can hang out with us while you take a cutter down the slide. Yeah. Because he wants to go and I'm like, ah, what do I do with two kids? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So on that, yeah. Uh, let us know, uh, what your dopamine hits are. Yeah. Tell us how you get your dopamine and how you would change your habits. Yeah. Tell us your summer plans. Tell us your summer plans, and, uh, tell us your stay, like your, uh. How, how did you know that it was time for your kids to stay home alone? Yeah. What'd you do to, like, what do you do? Mitigate some of the anxiety? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I, us know a smart watch iPad, phone. Yeah. What do you use? Yeah, let us know. Curious at 30. Crying and trying. This has been Hannah and Issa and Sarah. Bye.