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92: We're Back! Let's Catch Up! Surgeries & Pickleball!

Kalissa Georgia Kramer

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Hello. We're live. We're back. We're live after 84 years. 84 years. Years. I was later. It's up to years now. Um, I've actually had a lot of people say like, I've caught up with all your episodes, but like, where are you? Yeah, where's the new stuff? Where's the new one? They, you know, they wanna, apparently were really interesting. Yeah. Who knew? Who knew? Who knew? They wanna know a little bit more about our lives. Yeah. Wow. A lot has happened. Yeah. Since we got together.'cause we got together what, 87 years ago? Like November? Yeah, I, so before Thanksgiving, I'm pretty sure before Thanksgiving I think. Oh my gosh. So this January, like 20 20th, is that right? In this 24th. Holy smokes people's. Almost February. Yeah. Wow. Do you feel like the audio's going in and out? We're adjusting. There's been some new setup in here, so we're adjusting. Yeah. These are all new mics. Yeah. Nicholas took over our podcast room, so we are making do, I'm gonna take a picture of Sarah and Hannah and so you guys can find it on the Instagram stories. See what our new room is looking like. There we go. Did you break your camera? Did I break my ca? Uh, no, that is just the protective screen. Holy. There's like a Yeah. A cover. Yeah. So I took the cover off because it was Right. I feel like when I had my cover on there, it's like a picture you all the time. Yeah. Constantly. Yeah. So I took my cover off. Yay. Mouth open. So Calissa. Oh, classic. Calissa. Do you wanna kind of, you know, talk about started what you've been doing? Yeah. Since last time we saw you so. I've had a lot happen uhoh. It's been crazy. Okay. Most recently. Um, I don't even know where to start. Start beginning baby. I had major abdominal surgery in December. Drum roll. Yes. Yeah. We need to look at the results today. Yes. So get ready to be naked. Did you just, did you say this last time that you were on an episode? I think I said I was getting surgery, but it's kind of been like this elusive, like what kind of surgery? Mm-hmm. So, anyway. I got a tummy tuck. Woo. Big shocker. Um, and then I got pneumonia right afterwards. Yeah. Which was rough. And I was in the er, uh, and that was, I got three liters of fluids and my heart rate still wasn't below a hundred, which is crazy. Wait, what does that, what does that mean? Yeah. Heart rate wasn't below a hundred. Yeah. What's flu like? What do you mean? Flu fluids is like saline? Yeah. For hydration, like a bag of fluids. You see them? So you were being drained that much antibiotics that way. I was being given fluids'cause I was so dehydrated. Holy shit. Yeah, I was like panting by the time I got in there. Like, like, like I could not breathe. I was so short of breath. That's terrible. So, um. My fever was 103. My heart rate was like over 130. I was in rough shape. Oh my God. So, um, anyway, recovered from that fine, uh, within the week I was still off, so I didn't have to go back to work yet, which was good. Oh God. Um, on top of recovering from your abdominal circum. Exactly. Coughing. When you've had major, which honestly like crazy. It felt like I did a thousand sit ups. That's the worst my pain ever got. That's not bad. It really, I would give it like a seven out a 10. Okay. Compared to your cesarean. Oh yeah. My, my C-section was a 10. Outta 10. Yeah. I felt like pain. My innards were like literally gonna fall outta my body. Yes. At all times. Right? Yeah. But she did like some kind of injection. They, it kind of, they call it the x burl shot. Okay. And so like you really, I don't, I still don't feel my incision. Oh, nice. Like, I didn't feel my incision the whole time. So does it, it's completely numb. Is it like a nerve blocker? Does it kill your nerves there, or what? What's up with that? It's very common to not have nerves or like, everything's so rearranged and so. Mm-hmm. So like, like under my belly button to my scar is completely numb. Still fascinating. So did you get a tattoo? Yeah, it won't feel anything. It will wear off or it won't, um, it'll take a while. I talked to a friend who, yeah, I talked to a friend who had one like two years ago and she says she's still numb. What? So yeah, like my, under my arms, they like, I'm maybe kind of getting just a little bit of feeling, but that's why I got the tattoo.'cause I'm like, I can't feel you at all. Yeah. I couldn't feel like half my arm tattoo. I mean, I know I still have that weird, like, from my C-section. Mm-hmm. But I, that's just like a nerve thing that's not Yeah. Are you itchy? Not very itchy. That's not at all. That's good. Yeah, not at all. Um, so interestingly enough, I have been gaining weight since my, I got my new job in October. Mm-hmm. So a lot of it, I'm talking it up to like sitting at a desk. Yeah. Uh, not moving around as much. Yep.'cause I do sit at a desk for a significant period of time. But also I was just kind of like, I would go to bed at like six 30. Oh cow. I'm not even kidding you. And wake up at like five. So I was getting like 11 hours of sleep at night. Mm-hmm. And I still was tired. Yeah. So I got an orange ring. Ooh yes. Oh, you see that mine? I see that. Yeah. It's cute. I like that. Yes, it's gold. Oh my gosh. It looks so good with your other race. It looks so new. Mine's all busted up, you see? Yeah. Um, so do you look at your data very often so it tracks your sleep? I try not to,'cause it kind of makes me a little paranoid. So What do you mean Like sleep? Sleep stuff specifically. Oh, your sleeps soft. Oh, you're a little stressed. You like shut up. Oh boy. So I have been entering my aura ring data into chat, GPT. Oh boy. Chat GT's like you never actually recover. Like the lowest my heart rate gets is like 78. So that's like chronic stress then. Yeah. My body's like in a chronic Yeah. Stress zone. Yeah, and I couldn't figure out what was going on. My HRV is super, super, what's that? H rv. Heart. Oh, I'm thinking of the Honda H. Heart rate. Oh, heart recovery. Heart rate variability. Okay. There. It's got it. Got it. Got. So your heart rate is, will still fluctuate a lot. Sure. It's supposed to go up when you're active. It's supposed to stay down when you're not active. Sure. But it's supposed to fluctuate like between 60 and a hundred. Mm-hmm. Right. Mine stays. At least like my resting heart rate this morning was 102. Wow. So that when I had the pneumonia and I was in the er, it was interesting that they couldn't get my heart rate. Like they were like gonna admit me because my heart rate wouldn't come down. Right. And so I have been submitting all my data to. Chat, GBT. I've been telling him about my hunger signals. I've been telling'em about like how hungry I am and like I'm just ravenous all the time. Ooh. About my brain fog. All of this stuff. And it's like, you need to get your thyroid checked. Oh no. Oh, no. Calissa. So I got my thyroid check and it is outta whack. I could have sworn that. Didn't you tell us not that long ago that you had your thyroid checked? Yeah. Yeah. On an episode. Right, right, right, right. I had nodules. So I had an ultrasound in my thyroid. Oh. But they didn't do, like, they did blood work. I was like, borderline three, four. Oh, very borderline. They're like, we could put you on meds. We could not put you on meds. And at the time I was like, no, I feel fine. I'm good. Well, then I started gaining all this weight and I'm like, what in the world? I've gained 15 pounds since October. So I just like, I got the tummy tuck, but I do not feel good about my results. Anything that's happening? Yes. Yeah. Shit. So anyway, started on Levothyroxine this week. So hopefully that should be, so were you hypo hyper? So both thyroid. Okay. But my TSH was high. Okay. So it's kind of like the they they're opposite of each other. Yeah. If you have hypothyroid, hyperthyroidism, then your TSH is low. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Basically it's all just, oh my gosh. So screwed up. So I've had a lot of health concerns, issues, yeah. Lately, oh my god. That I've been trying to address. So are they thinking that it's triggered probably by whatever stress you're feeling or that that is triggering the like stress response? It's, that's a good question. But I had my first like full night of sleep, restorative sleep. My heart rate got to like 70 last night. Oh. So I was like super impressed and I just sent it to Chat Beach, GPT, and they're like, this is a meaningful change in recovery. Oh my gosh. Your boyfriend is so proud of you. Yeah. No chat. GBT. Oh my gosh. Can I just say, well, whatever. Okay. I was just gonna say's that Calvin and I are fighting right now and so like I totally understand why people fall in love for their chat GBT'cause they don't talk back. Are you messaging chat? No, I'm not, but I'm like, you should. I get why? Because at this point I could send Calvin over a cliff and like, not care, but oh my gosh. Anyways, continue on. Yeah, no, that's pretty much it. That's my life. I've just been trying to figure out, sending my aura to bring data to chat GPT every day and it analyzes, it tells me suggestions. Tells me why I'm feeling this way. Tells me kind of like encourages, motivates me. Yeah. And I back down three pounds since I started on levothyroxine. So, and that, that's so good. Is that, what does that target your, your thyroid? Yeah. So it just signals your brain to stop releasing so much TSH. That's why my TSH is high. Awesome. But has a lot to do with your metabolism. Mm-hmm. Um, a lot to do with your cortisol, cognitive health, basically. Absolute, basically. Yeah. Literally everything. Like your thyroid is your, like, I don't wanna say hormone hub, but like, kind of, yeah. Is like those hormones that are produced there trigger a lot of other, and so it's just, if your thyroid's outta whack, like you're messed up. Yeah, you're messed up. I know. Okay. Because it's like sleep, it's hunger, it's brain, it's. Everything, because my mom has thyroid problems too. Does she? And then I knew a girl in school. She had thyroid problems. Really? Yeah. When she was young, even. But hers, she couldn't gain weight. Oh, oh, so she's So she's hyperthyroidism? Mm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, my mom has, her TS age is low. My mom had what Calissa has. Yeah. And the medication didn't work, so they killed her thyroid. Oh my gosh. Now she takes like. Replacement. Yep. So my mom doesn't have a thyroid'cause they took it all out. Yeah. So she has to take lots of levothyroxine to signal her brain to not release TSH, which would grow back a thyroid. Mm-hmm. Pretty much. Oh my gosh. So we're suppressing that hormone. Glad you can like, you know. You're like looking into it a little bit more. Yes. I would just be like, I guess I'm fucked. I dunno what to do. Exactly. Well, I feel like it's so crazy'cause I, we should pull up the numbers to this at some point, but the thyroid conditions in the last, I don't know, whatever, like 20 years or whatever mm-hmm. Is like outrageous. Like huge skyrocket. Yeah. And so I'm really curious. Like what? I don't know. I'm just interested. Yeah. Interested. So that's me. What about you guys? I'm glad you're feeling better. Yes. You're, you're moving along pretty good. Sucks. Yes, I'm on the road to recovery. Yeah. So, so, because I'm like looking into a tummy tuck. Mm-hmm. And I just watched, I don't know if you watched her teen mom two Janelle Evans Yes. At her tummy tuck journey. Mm-hmm. And how was your postpartum surgery? Like how did, like, were you in on bed a lot? Bed rest, a lot. Having like Craig or your mom help you out like so, yes. Yes. So postpartum, you said postpartum post surgery. Did surgery. Post surgery, sorry. Okay. Yeah. So I was like, mom brain did not have a baby. Um, yeah. Uh, so mom cooked us a lot of food that first week or so. Yeah, I don't really remember the first week or so very much'cause I was on pain medication. Um. Uh, like no issues so far with pain medication stuff. Like you said, you had a really nice transition from Yes. Strong. You didn't get constipated or anything like that? No, nothing. Thank goodness. Oh man. I was on a stool softener, so that was very helpful. Yeah. Even before surgery. Um. Yeah, I would say I walked hunched over. You have to walk hunched over. You have to sleep sitting up for the first week. Okay. I walked with a walker everywhere for the first three or so days. Oh my gosh. Did Craig take a video? No, I'm sorry. He was so sick of me at that point. At some point his like, did you have like a bell? I think. Ding, ding. Yes, yes. No, I didn't, but. Uh, yeah, it was interesting. It's kind of just a blur because then the pneumonia set in and then I just Oh, mm-hmm. I felt like crap. Mm-hmm. Um, and I, yeah. Any lymphatic massages that you do? I have not. Um, we were watching a, my swelling hasn't done and I was, my swelling hasn't been that bad. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Just good. Yeah. I wonder if that has to do maybe with, well, I don't know. Did you haves because you're so dehydrated? No, I had no drains. You had no drains. I had no drains. You were so dehydrated. I wonder if that like, I don't know, had something to do with it. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Which like, thank goodness, right? I'm not smell, but Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But like I had my. Four week follow up appointment in early late December. Mm-hmm. And she's like, okay, yeah, everything looks good. Like, nice. You don't, you can only wear, you can only wear your d you don't have to wear your compression all the time. You can just wear it at night. And I just kind of stopped with my compression too, because I'm, I'm just not swelling, you know? Wow. So, yeah.'cause uh, Janelle, she wore the compression thing, but she was getting itchy from it. So then she wore a faja. A faha Faha. Yes. I had one. I wore it one night. I hated it. And I've not worn it suit because it's everywhere. It's like a full body suit. Right? It's bo on. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And she did that with the lymphatic massages, like pretty much after her surgery. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, that just looks kind of painful and kind of a lot. Oh my gosh. We were watching though, and I was like, wow, that would feel really good. I want that a lymph had for myself. I know. I wanna have my tummy rubbed. I know. Ander's always. When he falls asleep, he's like, mommy, will you rub my belly? And then he rub his belly. He goes, that TCOs, that s that's like our little thing. Oh, that his belly funny. He falls asleep. Fuck. That's so cute. So yeah, enough about me. Tell me about you guys. Well, Sarah, well I think, was it I that interested you when it first Yes. Yes. I saw a parks and rec flyer for pickleball. Mm-hmm. And I was like. Yeah, I'll try it because I tried volleyball and, which was fine, but people were kind of mean. There was a couple people that just I've heard about about that. Yeah, you, I think we talked about that on the pod. Yeah. We weren't, we weren't thrilled. Welcome. Yeah. I'm like, well, it says for all beginner, like beginners, all stages level. All stages. Yeah, all stages. I'm like, well, I just wanna play for funsies. And some people took it a little serious and I'm like, Ugh. Yeah. So then I saw pickleball and I was like. I'll try it. And I was like, Sarah, this is me. This is, this is after we, well at least I, I don't know about you, but I've spent years making fun of other people for playing pickleball and being so obsessed with it.'cause it's just like one of those sports that I don't, I don't even know how to explain it. People get so obsessed with, and it's like such a silly sport when you just, I remember, think about it, I remember the craze.'cause I think it was, the craze was like five years ago, like right after. Um. COVID stuff. Yeah. Yeah.'cause I remember they had like a pickleball mm-hmm. Group and a parade. Mm-hmm. And this one lady was dressed up as like an inflatable pickleball. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And I was like, losers. Yeah. But then we went, and I'm pretty sure they were annoyed with us because they had to teach us everything about it, the rules and how to hit and. Yeah. So looking back, I'm like, I bet they were annoyed with us. I'm sure they were, but they were. But they were very nice about it. They were decent about it. Yeah. They were very nice at the time. So, which kind of inspired me and Sarah. I'm like, okay. They were really nice. They're way different than the volleyball players. Mm-hmm. Let's just keep going. So then I know I did a deep dive on pickleball. Mm-hmm. Watching YouTube videos, tiktoks and everything. Mm-hmm. And then, you know, we're starting to get like kinda getting the hang of it a little bit. And then we found out that. The local gyms here, they have a pickleball like every morning, Monday through Friday. Oh my gosh. Mm-hmm. This time from this time. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, let's go. But then we get there and like it's pretty intense. It's intense. Especially, I won't say where it is, but like there's two here and the one that's further away, they're like the first game I think that we played when we came in. The two of the guys are like, so just so you know, we're training for a tournament. We're gonna be partners. Oh, that was my fir. That was when you weren't there yet. I wasn't there yet, but yeah, and I was just like, oh, oh, okay. We're just, we're just having fun know, I'm like, like I just started like three weeks ago. Yeah. I played like three times. Okay. Is it, so is it tennis? No, it's like ping pong tennis. A little bit of, is that how you describe it? It's like bags, yeah. Yeah. A little bit of bags, little bit of, and little bit of tennis, little bit of ping pong. What else? I think another sport that they kind of, but yeah, I don't even know. I bet Craig would love it.'cause he loves tennis and he loves ping pong. Okay. We are looking, if he loves ping pong, he'll love, I would really like to find a third and fourth that we could play with regularly. Mm-hmm. Because it is kind of cliquey. Yeah. And it's all old people. Oh, I bet Diane loves men and women. I, they, but they are so busy. You know, Diana hang it, um, bk Battery King needs to hurry up and put his wife into retirement so that we can play pickleball every day. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we're looking for a third and fourth. If you're, if you're, uh, you know, wanting to be active. Close up. Live so far away. I know, dude, it's so, where can we meet in the middle? I know. Yeah. Yeah. That would be fun though. Yeah, you would be obsessed. You would be obsessed. I'd be like, guest. I think you and Craig would like it a lot. Yeah. Imagine if we were just a bunch of pickle ballers. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's all we do. Yeah, because I bought a net. Yeah. So when it gets normal out, me and Sarah can just go out to a park and set up the net and just. Oh, you don't need a ground to bounce it off of. You do, but over at the park over here, there's just like cement paddle, a flat basketball court. Okay. It already has like set up for a volleyball net. So we're like, okay, perfect. Like it's obviously wide enough. It'll work just like perfectly. Yeah. So we've bought the shoes. I've now bought a second pedal, better Paddle. Um. Oh you did? I did last night. I did, yeah. Nice. Oh, I saw your paddle on your stories. She's got a few. They're pretty cute. Yes. That was, uh. Nick, he's, you know, he's like, okay, if you like pickleball, I'll get you a paddle. And I was like, sweet. And then I was like, oh, Nick, I was not expecting that image. It's cute though. It's cute. It's cute. And she's had a few questions about it from. The ladies from the Y. Uh. Yeah. How do you explain that? The one lady, she was like, oh. And I was like, it's me. And she's like, it's you. And know it's the big boobs. You can really tell. I just, I didn't get further into it. I didn't feel like, oh, my husband's a YouTuber and he does ads. Yeah. And this one was from a, yeah. Yeah. Cute though. It was funny. There was one we were playing. When we were playing at one of the schools in town with Parks and Rec, she was like, should I use this new Paddle? Paddle? And I was like, um, we're at an elementary school, so I don't know if you should use the one where you, it doesn't matter where you're partially naked here, but you know, you do you whatever you wanna do. No. Did you use it Sometimes? Yeah. Yeah. But then, you know, once you kind of get into pickleball and you're feeling different paddles mm-hmm. Like, ooh, this one's got more of a rough surface. Mm-hmm. Grips the ball and I'm like, it grips the ball better. You can hit a little better. So it's more spin. Yeah. Yeah, there's a whole like pickleball section at Shields now. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm there. I'm like looking at it, looking at the ball. I know. I'm like, next time we go to Des Moines, I'm like, we need to go to Shields. So I can look at all the stuff. Yeah. Like I wanna buy some new balls. Like I wanna look at the tape that goes around the outside of your paddle. I wanna like look at more socks. Like I wanna look at, now that my phone knows that I like pickleball, oh, it's everywhere. I get like pickleball, like glasses. Mm-hmm. Because they're like, you should wear like safety glasses. Mm-hmm. Targeted ads everywhere. Yes. Anna Lee Waters, she's the number one women's pickle baller in the mm-hmm. In the sport right now. And she's everywhere on my everything. Yes. Like she's all over my Facebook, she's all over my TikTok, she's all over my YouTube, and it's just because. I liked and followed a few TikTok accounts that were pickleball. Pickleball related. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And did a few Google searches for like shoes. So how often are you two pickleball? Like five days a week. Too much. Are you serious? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Five days a week and then one day for sure. We go twice a day. Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You guys are super into it. Yeah, and sometimes I play at school, which is another like potentially two days a week that, or twice a day. Yeah, the one time we were gone for about five hours. Yeah, that was a big day. Calvin text Nick, he was like, dude, how long are they gonna be doing pickleball? Well, okay, I gotta, I gotta look up like. Pinterest pickleball. Oh my gosh. I wanna see what kind of outfits you guys are. Oh, it's very like sporty. It's like tennis. Um, yeah, it tennis. Tennis aesthetic. Yeah, it's tennis tire. I want to be the tennis aesthetic. Mm-hmm. Like, oh my gosh, atha, my gosh. She bought ribbons and so now every time she goes to play pickleball, she has a matching ribbon with her little outfit, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, Hannah. That's so dorky and adorable. One of the ladies adorable, said that I looked adorable, and I'm like, thanks, Patty. Yeah, it was cute girl. Oh, she's so sweet. She's the nicest. Yeah. But so the. Issue that me and Sarah are running into. Mm-hmm. And maybe this is maybe a sports thing. Yeah. But like, it's cliquey. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I trademark anyone who, anyone who plays sports, please let us know. Click all. Click all. Oh my gosh. Yes. Oh, tm, TM trademarks. Nobody take that. Yeah. You guys came up with that experience Technically, but we're not talking about one right now. Geez. We'll, we'll, we'll give the credit to Hannah. Um. So, so I actually chat bt it last night. Just, I just wanted to get their insight to trademark it. No, no, no, no. Oh, oh. This is about like the, the clicks, the cl. Okay. I thought me and Sarah were just vibing just fine. But like, yeah, I'm kind of noticing a little bit of behavior from some of the older women every once in a while. And it's not with everyone, it's just like a select few, a handful. You're sort of like, and I'm just, okay, you're sending such mixed signals because sometimes like, do you like me or do not? They're just, they're fine. And other times it's like, I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. They're like, I don't know how to describe it either. So I asked chat, I forgot what I asked'cause I forgot to screenshot my part. Mm-hmm. But chat was like totally get why that feels crappy and it honestly, you're probably not imagining it. Pickleball has vibes and they like emphasized vibes and especially in established groups, it has nothing to do with you personally. Here are some of the common reasons why this happens. One, and it's in quotes, we paid our dues energy. Ugh. A lot of longtime players remember when they were beginners and felt ignored. Instead of being welcoming, some people repeat the same gatekeeping experience. Mm. Which we'll have to tell a story about that specifically. And they said, it's a weird quote, earn your place. Mindset. Ugh. And I'm like, yeah, I totally feel that. It is like, yes. But then I'm like, that happens in the hair industry too. And I remember you said nursing. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It happens in nursing. It's everywhere. It's just annoying. Nick's always like, it's a women thing and I'm like, it probably is. But I, we noticed it from men a little bit too. A little bit. But they're kind of more upfront about it. Yeah. They just won't play with us. They're less like mind games about it and more just like very clear and like, I prefer that. Mm-hmm. I prefer clear. It hurts. Yeah, but like I can respect that. Yeah. Like if you were, if I was really good at something and a new person showed up, maybe I wouldn't wanna play with them either. But then, you know, like you either suck it up or you're honest about it and say, I don't really wanna play with you. Or women, they'll suck, but they just like roll their eyes snarky, just kind of cold shoulder you a little bit. So I'm just like, oh my gosh. Yeah. So it's. Geriatric bullying. Oh my God. Oh my. It's so true. Yeah. And then number two, they say fear of uneven play. Even if you're doing really well. Newer players can make games unpredictable to more experienced folk. Some older players prefer very controlled, consistent rallies. Yeah. And avoid anyone they think might change that rhythm. And I'm. Makes sense. So I noticed yesterday when we were playing What, okay. And we were playing with the, the two men, I don't wanna say their names. Oh, okay. Um, but I did notice that during the rallies they did most often hit to each other. And obviously they are senior players in terms of like, they play often. They play very well. The one only, this was his fifth time plan. Yeah. But he had, he has ping a huge ping pong background and so he was very good already. And, um, so I, and I was kind of like, hmm. Are you like annoyed that we're just not as good as you and like you don't really wanna wanna pass it to us? I didn't get that. I think they just are so used to playing with each other, like already, and they're just maybe, and sometimes there are ball hogs, which, yeah, I don't know. Sometimes you just get a vibe and I don't know if, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I just, Calvin always tells me that it's in my mind. But he's so oblivious that like I'm just like, you just don't see it because you're oblivious. So then, I don't know. Yeah, I didn't really catch a vibe. I think they just got used to playing with each other like consistently and they're just like, that didn't, like, yeah, maybe I, but they have good aims, so then I'm like, they do, there's no reason for you to not be able to pass to other people because you've got good aim. Like you know what you're doing. Yeah. So you're doing it on purpose. Whatever you're doing, you're doing it on purpose. So, yeah. I dunno. Yeah. And then number three, it says comfort zones and cliques. Pickleball communities often turn into social clubs. People get used to the same partners, same jokes, same dynamics. Mm-hmm. New faces, especially confident athletic ones can feel that disruption. And I think, I wouldn't call us confident or athletic in that regard. Right. But like when they're so used to the same people. Yeah. Like we played with that one lady and she was totally happy and you know, bouncy with. The same PA players. But then when me and Sarah played with her very cold, very, yeah. Distant, didn't say anything to us. Mm-hmm. And just acted like she didn't wanna be there. Even when we joke around, like she wasn't into like into it. And I was just like, okay. That is so strange. It so strange behavior. Yeah. And I'm just like, I'm like, is this a sports thing? Is it a women's thing?'cause Nick's like it's a women's thing. And I'm like, see, we need to ask other people who play sports.'cause we, I, I don't know about you, you played volleyball stuff, but like I played sports that were in high school and it was bowling. Like nobody, you know? Yeah. The only time from high school cared enough about bowling. Well, volleyball, I remember playing and I was on the D team, like I was, yeah, this was the bottom of the, I was on the barrel team for basketball. So you're okay. Sucks. You're in good company. I was not on the C or D team. I was a fantastic bowler, just to toot my own horn. But we also only had about six people sign up, so you know, whatever. But I remember in middle school we went and played at a school. And you know, at the end everyone's supposed to like handshake, you know? Mm-hmm. Just do a little hands thing. And this girl, she totally like did at me. She did psych, she did the psych on me, and I just remember feeling really shitty. I'm like, what was that for? Aw, why didn't you wanna slap my hand? Yeah. That's just poor, poor sportsmanship. Yeah. But that was the first time I've ever experienced that. And I'm like, okay, this might be a thing. But then like, yeah. The wrestling community, I've always heard so much and I'm like, it just sounds intense. Mm-hmm. And it's parents, coaches. Oh yeah. Players. They're not players. They're whatever wrestlers, whatever they are. But I'm like, they get cocky. Mm-hmm. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I've seen it. Even like carver's playing flag football this year. No. Really? Really? Yes. He's nine. Not with the kids in the sports, but the parents. Yes. Ugh. Like getting really intense at games and just like, what whatcha doing, whatcha doing? I'm like, and how old is he? Nine. Yeah. That's just not, they're screaming at nine year olds. Yes. That's not normal, I feel like, and I just, I, yeah. I, there's just a certain person that I would rather not choose, or rather choose to not sit by, so. Yeah. Yeah. It's so annoying. And if you know who you are, yeah. If they listen, I'm just kidding. If they listen. Mm. I'm about you. No, but like on my TikTok, I'm seeing a lot of, uh. Parents, they'll like, they'll wanna film their kid, but like people are screaming at them or they're hearing the snarkiness or, oh, look at that, but just kick that person out. Yes. And it's their kid and they're like, excuse me. And then they're like, the parents are getting into it. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, it's just silly. Like it's kid stuff. We don't need to. Like bash kids. They're literally literal children. Children silly. And it's just teaching them all. Mm-hmm. Anyway. But then I don't know if they want like, oh, my kid's been playing since they're three years old. Don't care. That's they're an Olympic athlete. I don't care. Then they should go to a specialized gym like Olympians do. Yeah. If they are supposedly this Olympic level, whatever sport it is, like go to a specialized gym. Away from the kids we're here to be chilling or have kinds of like travel leagues Oh, right. That are like above the elites. That was like, you're playing parks and rec brother. Like chill out. This is Yeah, absolutely. It's chill. I'm just like getting back into this feeling and I'm like, Ugh. And I hate it. And we had a bad experience. Uh, was it last week? I think so. It was like early last week. And this lady. Ugh. This lady, she, we played two games with her. It was me and she was kind of snarky. It was this lady who like took me and Sarah under her wing. Oh, she's the nicest. Her name's Kathy. We'll give her a shout out. Kathy. She's the best. And um, so I was Kathy's partner and this lady was Sarah's partner. Yeah. This other lady. And I didn't know she was deaf, but like. I'm like, so there's just like some random misunderstandings. Yeah. Which is totally fair. I'm joking with Sarah. Sarah's joking with me on the other side of the court. You know, she's dancing'cause she hears a song and I'm like, Sarah, oh, they, they played higher by Creed and I just, I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry. Exactly, exactly. Like who, who can't dance when Creed comes on, right? Yeah. And like this Sarah's partner just looked, but then again she was deaf, so I don't think she could. Really, she probably didn't know what was going on specifically. Yeah. And was her peripheral view. But there was some times where I was missing some things and Hannah said that she was like rolling her eyes, my partner, when I would miss some stuff. And I'm just like, excuse me, no one can get that. And this was after I had been very explicit in saying like, Hey, I'm really struggling today. Like I'm doing even more poorly than just being a beginner. Like I'm really struggling today. I'm not doing well. I don't know what's going on. I'm not doing well. And I mentioned that a couple of times. And so then. She, she was like rolling her eyes and she ended up, after our two games together, she like took us aside and she was very explicitly saying like, Hey, people who are good don't wanna play with you because you're new, so you guys should go on the other side and play by yourselves and practice. And when I was new, I spent like five hours every single day and I would go to a wall and just hit and hit and hit and practice, and practice. You guys really need to do that. And we were like. Bye. Uh, okay, bye. And so. Yeah, we just kind of really, it was a really bad experience that day. Kathy. I would cry. I literally did. Okay. All right. I had, so I was like, we went into the locker room and Kathy was like, Hey, like she gave us the whole rundown, basically on this lady's life story. Please ignore her because she doesn't speak for all of us. Mm-hmm. But she's had issues. Well, even before me and Sarah went to the locker room, other players were like, Hey, whatever she said to you, don't listen. Don't listen to her. So then I'm like, okay, all these people are warning us, and then Kathy's telling us, oh, she's a problem. So I go home, I'm still pissed. I'm like, I'm not gonna let this slide by. So I, I'm like talking to Nick and I'm like, what do I do? And I'm like, I, I feel like I need to message someone like. Which is so out of pocket for me. I just can't, like I still am embarrassed that you did that. I'm sorry to say, but I'm embarrassed. But it worked. It did work. Because what happened, Nick, Nick wrote an email and it was very nice, but he was basically saying in the email, it was, um, he explained the story. That like other players felt compelled to apologize for her behavior. Yeah. And if this is a known issue, it should be resolved. It should be dealt with. Yeah, obviously. So then the next day I saw one of the pickleball, like had people talking like from the board or something like that. Yeah. Talking to said lady. Then he came and talked to us and apologized. He's like, we're sorry. This isn't what pickleball is about. You know, we want everyone to feel welcomed, all levels. And I'm like, okay, thank you. I feel seen and heard and I was just gonna give her the cold shoulder like, but. I can't do that. I'm sorry. I just can't. Sarah can't do it. She's a good person. She just, well, okay. My intention, I would give her the middle finger. My intention going in was like, I'm not gonna play with this woman. I'm not gonna seek out games that she's in. I'm not gonna, whatever. So I go into a game and there's already three people and they're like, Hey, we need a fourth. Can you come in? And I'm like. Perfect. I would love to, this is like one of our last games of the day. Okay. So I go in and then somehow one of my three goes to a different game and this lady comes in and I'm like, ah. And I saw immediately, I'm like, I'm like, ah, I'd walk out. Do I be like, I don't wanna be here and I'm gonna leave. Just be like, I have diarrhea. I, I'm not gonna be like that because I don't wanna put out the same energy that she's giving me. Okay? I don't wanna be rude. Like she was rude. I'm not. I don't wanna deal with that. That's not who I am. And so I was like, it's fine. I'm just gonna play my hardest. I'm gonna do really well and it'll be fine and be, I did. Good. I did, I we kicked her butt. Me and my partner, we kicked Hert. Yeah, I saw it. I was like, so you guys aren't always partners? No. That was probably one of my best games that I've ever played. Yep. And it was against her. And I felt vindicated. She was very like, you improved so much. I'm like, improved after one day. I know. Because we played, we came back later and played with another friend of mine and she like weasel her way in to be our fourth in, in the, in that game too. Was on house. Yeah. She was walking the track and saw. Two against one. Yeah. And was like, Hey, I can I, I'll play with you guys. And me and Sarah were like, okay. Uh, fine. But she was, I know, but her attitude totally changed. Yeah. I think she felt embarrassed that she got talked to you. And I'm like, at your grown age, I would be too. Yeah. Grown like this lady's 70. Come on girl. You've been around, you know when something's rude and when it's not. Like it's just, but then I'm like, I think it's a generational thing. Like they're just so like. Upfront and blunt. She very much had that attitude, I think that you were saying where it's like these people were mean to me when I first started and yeah, it's totally like you gotta earn your way. Yeah. In for us to respect you. And I'm just like, earning respect is not the same thing as just being kind, being a kind person. Yeah. You don't have to be rude in your honest, I deal with that in the hair industry because I, it was like five minutes till my shift was over, so I'm cleaning up doing my stuff. And an older hairstylist came and pulled me aside. She's like, you need to take your haircut up to your last shift, and then you can do your stuff afterward. And I'm like, so I have to stay way past my, my shift to like clean, like, no, I, I know it's closing. I just got done with my last haircut. I got five minutes to clean up and head out, like, and I told my boss that and she's like, um, no. If you're, if you, you know, you don't have to, you know you're done, then you're done. Like, no, you're, I'm not gonna make you do a haircut that's gonna be way longer than your five minutes. Yeah. And who wants a haircut in five minutes? Like no one. Unless you're shaving'em down. But then the older higher stylist was like, well, that's how other hairstylists used to treat me. And so it's again, the same mentality. If I was treated like that, I can treat the other people like that. Wow. But just like, but it makes you bitter. People don't think about how much you didn't like that. Yeah. Like, I don't wanna be treated like that. I'm not gonna treat somebody else like that. Yeah. That's gross. Yeah. So like I get, and I get why Hannah's upset with this lady and doesn't wanna be nice to her, but I'm just like, I don't wanna, I don't wanna make someone else feel bad. I do. Me too. I don't, I don't.'cause it just feels like such trash, like, especially when they, like my feelings were so hurt that day. Yeah. And like, I'm not really a big crier, but I did cry'cause like my, I told her that I was really struggling that day and then she was so mean. She was, and I cried about it. And I'm not embarrassed to say I am embarrassed. No, I, I said I would've. Yeah, so we just, I don't know, pickleball is like such a rollercoaster right now. It can be fun, but then now that I'm noticing like a little weird jokes and it makes you wanna quit. It does. And I hate that because now I've invested a lot of time and money into this. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But I love pickleball. I love to play it. So maybe it'll be fun, fun again. Like once it warms up, we get better. Yeah. And you can hopefully younger people wanna play. Yeah. I do think that probably there's a lot of people who play like at the parks and stuff Yeah. That don't play obviously as much in the winter. Yeah. Just because of like time constraints and kids and stuff like that. So I do think that when the summer rolls around, there'll be more opportunity for different people and new people that we haven't played with yet. So yeah. We're, I'm looking forward to that. I, I would assume you are too. Yeah. We'll just see what happens. But can I continue to read my chat? Oh yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I had to tell that story. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, that's good. Um, age and competitiveness. I think I said that one. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. This one's touchy, but real younger players can make older players feel threatened or self-conscious, even subconsciously, that can show up as coldness or exclusion. We have had, I've had some comments. I don't know if you have about like us being young. I haven't heard anything. People do say that sometimes to us when like, okay, so there was this one time when I said something about like, me and you splitting up, because we always get split because we're new together and people don't usually like it when two new people are on one team. Mm-hmm. And so I always said something like, okay, me and you'll split, I'll go with this girl, you go with this girl. And then the lady like rolled her eyes and she was like, I don't know about that. Yeah. And that was sort of like, and I was like, what does that mean, Erin? What did you say to her? Like, I didn't even say anything like crazy. I was just like me And you'll split'cause we're new. So, I dunno, but I get, I, yeah. I've had some weird comments about age. Um, number five, they assume you'll quote, move on some regulars don't invest in new players because they think you'll stop coming after a few months of consistency, attitude often changes a lot. Hmm. What you can do without shrinking yourselves. One, keep showing up. Consistency earns respect fast. And we did hear that'cause Yeah. The first time we played against the people who first taught us. Mm-hmm. They were like blown away. They're like that. We came back. Oh my god. Yeah. You guys have really improved. Yeah. And I'm like, me and Sarah have been literally doing this like every day, every day. Uh, number two, be visibly positive. Uh, saying good shot or a nice rally goes a long way. Which I try to do. We do. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, that was a good serve. Mm-hmm. Good hit, good volley. Yeah. Even with our partners that are kind of stinkers. Yeah. Yeah. Asked to rotate in confidently, not apologetically. Oh, that's me. Oh, no. What? I'm a chronic apologizer. And who, who was that? Brad, I think shout out to Brad. Brad like made a comment and he's like, never apologize in pickleball. And I was like, okay, I'm still gonna, but hey, because I just, I always, I don't know, I just, I'm like, oh, that was a bad shot. I'm sorry. Who's Brad? Brad was the one that played with me that last game against the lady. He was my partner that day, like three games probably. Oh. And he was giving me all those pointers and stuff. He was on the board. Yeah. Yeah. Um, play smart, not flashy. When mixing in it's single signals. Awareness. Not ego. Not ego. Mm. Play smart. So that means like we should plan our shots better. I'm not good at that. And Trium, um, um. It's not about liking you, it's about control. Some players like games where they feel in charge of peace, of pace and outcome. Mm. Playing you might have taken that away. So they avoid you. So they avoid repeat exposure. Mm. I could kind of see that. Like they're so used to how they play. Yeah. And then when we switch it up, they're like, oh yeah.'cause when we were playing at the Y the other day. It was, we were playing, oh, sorry. We were playing this place and there was, uh, ladies that we played with pretty consistently. Um, and on the opposite team there was this lady who likes to hit to the outsides. And my partner was like, Hey, like remember that's where she likes to hit, so like, be ready. And I was like, oh yeah. So like I do see that element in there where like they're so used to playing with each other, their dynamic already that it is hard to Yeah. Like let other people in. Yeah. But that's so crazy.'cause some of them are so welcoming. I know. But I think Yeah, it's just maybe yeah, I'll just show up and play and then just not talk about my life Yeah. To them. Like, uh, like I'll play with you, but I don't wanna get to know you if you don't wanna get to know me. Yeah. Right. It's hard though'cause I like to be loud. I do too. I like to scream and I don't know, scream if that like turns them off.'cause I'm maybe I'm like such a screamer, like Ah, I know. Yeah, same. But I'm just passionate. Same. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But then like, I don't know. And when we do well, like, I wanna celebrate. Yeah. Or like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So I just want me and Sarah to just like feel this bad energy and just get so good that they don't even know what's I know coming. Like, where's Annalie Waters? Can she teach us everything? She knows that we can be so good. I think she was a champion at 16. I know she's nuts. Wow. But her mom also played, her mom is her coach, so like she's a, what's that called? Multi-generational pickle baller. So, yeah. Your kids play, have you played with them? I have played with my kids. Really? Mm-hmm. At school. Actually, the other we were, I was waiting for people at school to be ready and I had the kids get paddles out and we were like hitting back and forth and Gus was like, mom, we gotta play together. And I was like, I know this summer we'll get in that and we'll we'll go out and play. Mm-hmm. It'll be so fun. Like even if we're just dinking to each other. Yeah. Without Annette. Like, he just thinks it's so fun and I'm like, perfect. Great. Like, let's practice. Yep. So, yeah. So I'm excited for everything to start melting and warming up. Yeah. So I can. Go and play. Mm-hmm. Well, speaking of which it is negative 13 today in Iowa? Yeah. What's the windchill today? It was cold. It was like negative 50 or something yesterday. My band the whole time was here. Oh. For mul. Many reasons. Oh no. Did it get to like negative 40 yesterday? I thought it did. Yeah. It didn't feel like it'cause I was out like chill. It was fricking cold. It was cold. Yeah. Wamp, wamp. And I looked at, I know. Exploding trees. Yeah. Oh, thank goodness. I, I. Oh, what I know because when it gets to, Calvin was talking to me about this the other day. When it gets to like negative 30 to 40 or something like that, there's like,'cause mo trees hold onto moisture obviously.'cause they water themselves. Yeah. From the ground. And so the moisture inside, just like when it turns to ice, it expands and then the tree explodes. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking up like, I don't know if they were real.'cause I'm like, everything is so ai, is this real? I know. Uh, yeah. AI gets me, dang it. Such frustration, but like when I message it, you know, and it's like sending me like, oh, like, I don't know, it just feels like you're talking to a person. Mm-hmm. It's like you get me. It does. I, I know, and I use it all the time for work. Every email that I write, for the most part, like if it's like a process change or something that I have to send out mm-hmm. I will plug it into chat, GBT mm-hmm. And say, make this sound more professional, and it spits it back out and I copy and paste it into my email like. Yeah, it's great. I think Calvin did that with an email that we're sending out for the gym. Mm-hmm. Because he sent me like a template and I was like, Hey, you need to fix this and this and this and this and this and this and this. And then he sent me back another copy and it was like, perfect. And I'm like, you did not write that. You did not write that. I'm starting to notice, um. When someone uses chat, GBT for everything. Mm-hmm.'cause Ashley Tisdale used it for her mom drama. Shut up. And I'm like reading her stories. I'm like, you use chat. GBT what? In her article that she wrote, she like made Instagram stories, but like. The way, the format, I'm like, that's shut up. You're gonna have to explain the mom group drama to me. Don't, I don't. We've got, I can, I kind of know it a little bit. I couldn't keep up. I, I feel like I kind of got it a little bit. We'll have to save that for our pop culture up the road. Yes. But yes. Yeah. So we've had busy, busy times. Yeah. Yeah. How are your holidays? Fine. Um, yeah, I think I gave too many toys that like they. Only played with a certain few and then like forgot about the rest, so Oh. Oh. I think like mental. Tell me about it. Yeah. Mentally like a mental note. I'm like, okay, less toys and yeah, but then what More experiences, because I love that. But they just kept opening presents and opening presents and opening presents and Craig looked at me, he is like. How many presents are left? Like I know, I'm sorry. I went a little overboard. I, I tried to be very conscious of what I was buying this year. Hmm. Because I feel like we've had that in the past. Yeah. And I don't know, so far it's okay. But I think it, we've finished, we finished our basement renovation and so I'm hoping that once we get the toys all moved down there and they're organized and like set up. Oh yeah. Then the kids will play with everything more. That always makes me mad. When like we'll clean the toy room for the first time in like a month, and then the kids will like play in there so much. Mm-hmm. And like completely destroy it again. Yeah. It's like you guys, so they only play with it when it's clean. Yeah. And they destroy it and then it's dirty for a month and then they play with it and it's clean and then Yeah. Well I told my kids like, okay, so this is basically your space now. Like this is gonna be where all of your toys are, all of your Legos, all of your toys, all of your board games, everything is gonna be down here. So that means that you are. Almost like, I would say like 95% responsible for keeping it clean. So I'm not gonna remind you like in the living room to be picking up. So that means if you get something out and you decide you're done playing with it, you put it away. And how's that been going? I don't know yet because we haven't organized yet. Okay. But that's on the list today to start moving toys downstairs. So. See you're also having another renovation. Yes. I'll have to show you the pictures. We finally started our bathroom renovation. Yay. So we have no toilet, no shower. Yeah. You have a toilet? We have a toilet for right now until he comes and then he takes the toilet out so he can work in there. Oh shit. So yesterday in the evening I had to leave'cause I had to pee so I had to go somewhere else to pee. Where'd you go? I ended up going to Menards.'cause I was like, I need to go to Menards anyways, to like look at bathroom lights. So I was like, this is perfect timing. I'll just pee when I'm here. This is perfect. And then find, when I got back, they were gone. So I was like, okay, great. If I need to pee, I'll pee again. I can pee. Now. Nerd is just the most random place. So we had to go to Menard. I had to go look at bathroom lights, so I was like, perfect. I'll go right now. I'll pee and then I'll bring home dinner. We went to Quick, I got Quickstar and you, the whole thing, right? You have no sink? No. Yep. Tub. We do have the tub still in there right now. Oh. But that's just because it's gonna require some extra, like a, another person to help them get it out. What are you doing for, are you just doing a full shower? A walk-in shower? No, we're gonna do a tub'cause we like to take baths. Oh, okay. So we're gonna get a, a tub that is like, I don't even know how to word this. Our tub right now was so old that it isn't even up to like, proper dimensions of today's tubs. So like it's five, six inches more shallow than like. A common tub is these days, so we're gonna have a tub that fits our whole bodies in there. Nice. Nice. It's gonna be great. That's great. I can't wait because you only have one bathroom, right? Yes. Oh, good. Yeah. A lot of shower weird stuff right now. So we'll figure it out. Yeah. But I'm so excited. I'm excited. It's good. I can't wait. We'll have to put some pictures in the stories. Yeah. The before and after. Yeah. Wow. A couple of like, um, InBetween these scary. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And he's gonna put an exhaust fan in here. Mm-hmm. Calvin's gonna put the fan in. Yes. It's gonna be great. You need, you need a fan in the bathroom? I bathroom. Why they didn't have one in there to begin with. Well because they, your house was built or in, in 56, but so he went through, when he was taking the walls out the like plastic paneling, he's like, oh, there's two layers of other stuff underneath. So they had put, there was something else in there before they did the plastic stuff. So I'm like, you updated it potentially like in the late eighties. Mid eighties, maybe the early nineties. Like and you just didn't put a fan in. That's crazy. That's crazy. Probably hired someone cheap and No, he did it. I bet.'cause he. Basically built the house. Like he built the cabinets, the kitchen cabinets. He built like all the basement stuff. He did The basement? Yeah. Oh, so he probably did it. Oh, would be my guess. Okay. But I dunno why he wouldn't put a fan in. It's nuts. Yeah. That's crazy atrocious. I have no desire to start a home renovation at this point in time. I know, but you need to fan in your bathroom. Didn't you say that you don't have one either. What? When we have a fan in the bathroom, I just, I don't think it works very well because it's always steamy when we come out. As long as you don't have mold, it's okay. But yeah, we don't have mold. It's doing something. Yep. Yeah, we need new van. That's what we need. Oh my gosh, yes. I'm on board. Although I've heard that the inventory is like pretty sucky. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. Are you looking actively? No, but I might have to be after the ride over today. Oh, no. Every time I turn my tires, like I, I think it's just'cause there's ice, like ice on the, on the road? No, like. Have Snut the flap. You have sn. What's Snut? Snowy Dirt. Dirty snow. Yes, yes, yes. Srk. So I need like a hammer. I came in at Hannah's house. I'm like, do you have a sledgehammer by chance? Just kick it. You don't kick your snut. It's like negative. I will break my to, you should have, you should have done it the other day when it was warmer. Yeah, that was silly. But like that's favorite. But then every time I turn it goes, oh no, that's really bad for your tires. Oh God. I'm sure. Oh no, but what am I supposed to do? I don't know. Take it somewhere warm. Go to the car wash. No, don't go to the car wash. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because it'll freeze your doors and Right. Negative three out right now. Yeah. Yeah. Out. Do you have a garage? We have a garage. It's heated, but we don't heat it in the winter. Can you heat it and put your car in there for a little, like probably a couple hours and then, yeah, I'm sure after the drive home. Park in the garage and like, yeah. Yeah. Turn the heat on. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like every episode we're like, oh, Calissa needs a new van. I getting her oil changed. We've been talking about this for like getting new issa's van problems. Yeah. Well, not van problems. We used a lot. You've a lot of miles on that thing. Mm-hmm. How many miles? 230,000. That's a lot. Thanks. That's a lot. So long. Craig has 230,000 on his truck, so we're both like, holy. You're both. Which one's out? Go out first. Oh no. Yeah, I know. We're gonna have to buy two vehicles at the same time. Oh no. Oh, shoot. Oh, but not a camper. Not a camper. I gave up on the camper. You did? Yeah. Yeah. She told us. That was last time. I know, but I was kind of holding out. Hope that you would change your mind again. I feel like you were so committed. I was just like, she's gonna do it. I, it was your issue of like backing it up. Well, yeah, like you can't back up and like where does it go in the winter and need a garage? The mice. Oh yeah. You have to like have really prevent Ew mice. Mm-hmm. Ooh, gross. So anyway, I'd rather just like rent. I think there's a place that runs on campers because they have it all like, oh yeah. And they detail it and stuff. So it's like really clean. Yeah. Oh yeah. Genius. Yeah. Next time you guys go mountain biking. There you go. Yeah. Boom. Done. Mm-hmm. Perfect. Okay. It has been 51 minutes, ladies. Wow. Nice. Do you think we should wrap this up? Yeah. Yeah, we can. Do you have anything else? Do you wanna update us on your life? Not really, no. Just, um, if you started a new hobby this year or what's your New Year's resolution? Mm-hmm. New Year's resolutions, new hobbies, old hobbies that you've like recently gotten really, like, obsessed with. Maybe. I try to do knitting that shit's hard. Really, Craig's really into basic baking right now is super easy. I'll teach you if you'd, you say Craig's really into baking right now. Oh, nice. Yummy. So you reap the benefits for a shirt. Yeah. Although that doesn't help you with you trying to get skinnier. No, it doesn't. You The fact that I'm hungry all the time. Yeah. Cut out the other foods. So you can just have sweetss all the time. Yes. Oh, delicious. Yes. So what's your New Year's resolutions? Um, let us know. Yeah. Um, let us know if you're gonna try pickleball, if you have done pickleball, if you're mm-hmm. If you know about click. Click a wall. Click a wall. I still think we should trademark that. Or if you wanna do some body modifications, if you're thinking about it, if you've done it, what's your experience? Mm-hmm. Um, and give Calissa some new vehicle. Um, yeah, drop those links in the comments. Think about a Honda pilot. Isn't that a van? It's three, it's third row. Did you like your Honda? Yeah, I love my Hondas. Oh, okay. But I wanna go into a spaceship when I get into a car. Oh gosh. And Honda was not a spaceship. I know. We were sitting in the car together the other day. That what you're saying? No, I want it like tech. So techy. We were sitting in the car together the other day. I want everywhere. And she was like, I'm looking at a new car. And I'm like, honey, you just bought this car. You freak. What's wrong with you? Oh geez. But I get it. I get it. Whatever. You got it. Flaunt it. Yeah. She told me the other day that she, when we were at Pickleball, she was like, and I told Cutter to tell all his little friends that my mom wears Louis Vuitton. And I was like, man. Oh geez. That's so good. Oh geez. Okay. Alright. All right. This has been Issa Hannah and Sarah. Bye bye.