Unsolved Mysteries: A Xennial Rewatch

Do you believe that you could be the key to solving a cold case?

Did Robert Stack's voice seep into your nightmares?

If you ever watched Unsolved Mysteries as a kid or teen, you might be a Xennial and we are too.

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Introduction to Unsolved Mysteries

Speaker 1 0:02

Did you ever wonder if a potential wanted fugitive could live right next door and you were the key to solving his or her case?

Speaker 2 0:10

Did potential UFO sightings, witnessed by hundreds of strangers, keep you up at night as a kid?

Speaker 1 0:15

If, you've ever watched spooky and unsettling reenactments based on true stories on a cable TV marathon? You might be a Xenial who watched, or who still watches, unsolved Mysteries, and we are too Hi, I'm Katie.

Speaker 2 0:29

And I'm Dani and you're listening to Generation In Between, a Xenial podcast where we remember, we revisit and we sometimes relearn all sorts of things from being 80s kids and 90s teens. You put adults. I did. She wrote down in the script for those of y'all who can't see my notes, which is all of you she wrote down 90s adults.

Speaker 1 0:49

I'm like wait I wonder why I did that. That's weird.

Speaker 2 0:53

My fingers just probably took over and I was like, well, we need to turn this because the camera it looks weird, but then, like the side, it's okay, do it anyway, see, no, that's better, but there's oh, my hand, but then it's like all me turn it back it's okay, we're just recording. We're recording all this, it's all right, everybody, we're trying to get our camera right for youtube's, all right.

Speaker 1 1:13

So here we go, uh, today, back on track today we are talking about one of the longest running tv series of all time.

Speaker 2 1:21

Oh, for real.

Speaker 1 1:23

Unsolved Mysteries which came of age in the 80s and 90s and then has had a reboot since 2020 on streaming services. Like new episodes?

Speaker 2 1:31

Yep no way. It's on Netflix. Is Robert Stack on there? No?

Speaker 1 1:35

there's actually no host and he's dead. But also there's no host and he's dead. They do it more of a documentary style now. Oh, I don't like that. Yeah, it's like. It's kind of like the voiceover, showing the newspaper clips and stuff.

Speaker 2 1:49

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:51

It's. I mean, it's kind of, if you've ever watched maybe you haven't uh IDTV, where they have forensic files, girl, you know I ain't like that.

Speaker 2 1:59

It's like that style now Okay, the no Okay.

Speaker 1 2:01

The new ones. I mean, I know what you mean. There's some pretty cool things that they cover and obviously there's a gap from when this went off the air, which was the early 2000s. It was 2002. So there's a lot of in-between cases, obviously, that have happened, and then they've got some like really old ones too, that they still cover. Yeah, it's a thing, and the original producers and creators who we'll talk about today are part of that project. Okay, that's cool. And there's a 2023 Netflix documentary. It's called I had it written down somewhere Unsolved Mysteries Behind the Legacy Ooh, I watched that and it talks to the creators.

Speaker 1 2:40

It's cool because it's not really about the mysteries, it's about the program itself. The program, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the documentary is more like and we'll talk about some of this today too but how many people, how many fugitives, have been caught, how many families have been reunited? I don't know if you remember, but there was a segment on the original.

Speaker 2 2:58

Oh yeah, at the end.

Speaker 1 2:58

That was like Lost Loves.

Speaker 2 3:00

Oh.

Speaker 1 3:00

Lost Loves, do you remember?

Speaker 2 3:01

that one yes.

Speaker 1 3:03

And like where you could find Somebody, either romantic or it could be like maybe a sibling who was adopted or whatever. So they have like a ton of success stories from those things.

Speaker 2 3:15

Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 3:15

It's really really cool, so lots in this franchise that's kind of iconic at this point. But tell me what your memories are of unsolved mysteries, oh my god.

Speaker 2 3:27

Well, you can't have unsolved mysteries from the 80s without robert stack, without him no, he was the third host.

Speaker 1 3:33

Though what? Yes, he was not the og. Okay, I did not know that, but go on, but I so apparently you can, but it's not as good he is scary?

Speaker 2 3:44

um, he's not scary, his voice is haunting. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 3:48

Yes, and the music to the show the music has actually won awards because it's so good. The show was nominated for an emmy five times for it's like um informational programming, yeah, yeah, but never won. But they've won like eight music awards through compo. There's one like the american association of composers or something like that.

Speaker 2 4:14

It slaps, it's good, and they've won like eight times. That's amazing. Well, yeah, that music. Then how does it go? And I can't. How does it?

Speaker 1 4:21

start. Let's start music.

Speaker 2 4:23

We'll pull it up in a minute yeah, um, but I remember, if it was like you know how sometimes they would run reruns like on weird channels at late at night. Yes, I can remember being like an older kid, maybe teen, and it would come on and I would have to hurry Like I'd hear the music and instantly turn it off because I'd be like no, I can't, I can't. I did watch it. I mean, we watched that show. Were you allowed to watch it?

Speaker 1 4:48

in your house. No, the first time I really watched it was in college.

Speaker 2 4:52

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 4:52

And it was either. At that point, I think it was on Lifetime. Yeah, they ran the reruns. They ran reruns and then I think they. The time I saw it it was off regular network TV and I was watching reruns and new ones on cable Because it's right up your alley.

Speaker 2 5:08

It's true crime.

Speaker 1 5:09

I loved it.

Speaker 2 5:10

Now, I mean not all of it. They had supernatural stuff, which is what I liked.

Speaker 1 5:13

They did and that's kind of what made it stand out from things like America's Most Wanted and also they didn't have to do like Most Wanted stuff. It could just be. It could be a story you've never heard from a small town, and not not to make light of this, but like a single person was killed and it's never been solved, Right, you know? So maybe they're not on America's top list, but maybe someone out there knows who did it and we can like figure it out.

Speaker 2 5:36

I used to love to at the end when the shows, when they would do updates and they would be like on the episode of whatever, here's an update, and sometimes they weren't good updates either, but I used to love that, but we used to watch that show. It was so good it scared me but I still watched it. You know, like Totally.

Speaker 1 5:55

Totally Like as a kid.

Speaker 2 5:57

It scared me to death and I still watch it and I told you this over text.

Speaker 1 6:05

But I went through this phase where I was like obsessed with like alien abductions which is wild to me, oops sorry, I was playing the theme music oh, you want to play it.

Robert Stack and Show Format

Speaker 2 6:12

Can you play it in the mic? I'm gonna try, here we go it's like that yep, that's not it, that's not it. Oh, that's that's when they're like he's like talking over it. Oh, he's like that's like the beginning where they'll like talk over it. But then there's like a okay, it goes, that's it all, right, here we go, that's it. That's what I was trying to think of, although that's more of like a hip remaster. Yeah, I like that. That's like a club mix.

Speaker 1 6:48

That was via Astro's Electronics Lab on YouTube.

Speaker 2 6:51

Hey, nice job guys, Look it up, turn that into an electric.

Speaker 1 6:54

But yeah, I know what you mean, though, when you know something is going to scare you. I was always like that with the theme for Dexter.

Speaker 2 7:01

Oh, I've never tried to watch dexter.

Speaker 1 7:04

But I could sometimes not even get past the opening theme music because it scared me so much really I knew and I was like a full-grown adult full-grown ass lady.

Speaker 2 7:13

I was too scared. I don't know I used to, but I I did. I went through this phase of alien abduction obsession. I mentioned that when we recorded whatever something. I don't remember if that was our regular episode or dawson's last week, yeah, but anyway, I don't remember. I went through this phase and it was because we were talking about an actor and it was paul rudd, and he was in something called the fire within and I was like, oh, is that that movie? The name of the movie correctly is fire in the sky. Okay, so it's a different one. It's different. It was not paul rudd. Um, holy bagolis. That movie's fucking scary. I saw it in the movie theater. It's a based on a real life story of this man who supposedly gets abducted by aliens and he's like go. Anyway, it is wild. If you want to scare yourself, go watch it, okay I mean, I do want to scare myself.

Speaker 1 8:01

I'm here talking about unsolved mysteries, maybe maybe we'll watch that in October.

Speaker 2 8:06

It's scary, but anyway I went through this whole phase where I was obsessed with it and so they would have alien stuff on Unsolved Mysteries quite a bit, because it was around X-Files time too, absolutely.

Speaker 1 8:17

They had a lot of supernatural stuff and ghosts.

Speaker 2 8:21

I was going to say they had like ghost hunter people.

Speaker 1 8:23

Or mysteries surrounding unexplained phenomena that you know you couldn't really explain away.

Speaker 1 8:29

And they would kind of investigate those things too. Yeah, and, like I said, my earliest memories really are. I mean, I think I was aware of it as a kid and a teen, but watching it myself was in college, and I think I've told you before that my sophomore year I lived in a house with two other girls, but they were rarely ever there. That house freaked me out and I have my own little ghost story about that house, but that's when I would watch it. So, no, so, no wonder. I was, yeah, by myself, no one. I was terrified to live by myself in that house.

Speaker 2 8:57

I mean Robert Stack's voice is so you know voice like that was Vincent Price. Yes, I mean, listen if you are a iconic actor, but your voice is like that you are going to just you're going to kill it with all the jobs. I don't know where I was going with that.

Speaker 1 9:15

I know you kind of stopped.

Speaker 2 9:16

I was like I was searching, searching for a word, and then it just flatlined. I don't know. Guys, Katie and I are late today.

Speaker 1 9:25

We are.

Speaker 2 9:26

I don't know. We got a lot going on.

Speaker 1 9:28

We are an unsolved mystery we are. We have kids about to graduate, other kids trying to finish all the things, all the concerts all the recitals the award ceremonies.

Speaker 1 9:38

I actually went to Universal yesterday with a daughter of mine, which was super fun. Reversal yesterday, uh, with a daughter of mine, which was super fun, but it's like a whole day just in a vacuum of time. Well, it's just like a day gone, and then I teach all day today. So I was telling danny, I was like I have so many emails and I have no idea when I'm gonna be able to answer everyone, because, particularly for my business, I want to be able to answer effectively, thoughtfully, yeah, and be like you asked me a question about time or cost or whatever.

Speaker 1 10:07

I want to make sure I'm giving you the right information, and for us zennials, or elder millennials, that usually means sitting in front of a computer to look at all the things instead of just trying to find it on my phone. So I've got a list of those, so this will be coming out way after today. But if you're on my list, don't worry, I have a very fail-proof system now called.

Speaker 2 10:27

Read her emails Well also. This is a terrible system, but it's working.

Speaker 1 10:31

It's working for me and I think if it works for you, you should do it. Okay, I'm ready, I'm going to die on this hill when I do open an email from my phone or look at a text and it requires action from me.

Speaker 2 10:44

Open an email from my phone or look at a text and it requires action from me. I take a screenshot. Oh, I do that all the time. Well, remember that day, I took all those pictures of you. You guys wait, okay, screenshots is one thing because I do that all the time.

Speaker 1 10:58

I do that with text messages, I do that with notifications.

Speaker 1 11:00

And then when I do sit down, I can look at them. Yeah, oh right, I need to do this here I go. All right, I can do this here I go, but can we please tell them the other things you do? So there was what if you are in my presence when I think of something and I can't do it right, then I will have you take a picture. Take a picture doing the motion. So, for example, I don't even know what it was that I needed, it was something costume related and I was like oh, I got to get that thing here. Danny, hold this cowboy hat, yeah.

Speaker 2 11:27

You're like put this cowboy hat on. Of course I'm like sure, Like I was like whatever. But then she's like okay, now pretend you're sleeping, like what? Because we needed to get a hotel reservation for Gaga.

Speaker 1 11:40

And not in the cowboy hat. Those were two different things, although that would match.

Speaker 2 11:44

That would have been fun. But she was like pretend you're sleeping, I'm like on the floor. You're like no, just put your hands by your face.

Speaker 1 11:52

So later I was like yep time to book a hotel room and not just a hotel room a hotel room for Gaga because I'm going with Danny. And then the cowboy hat I was like could I have?

Speaker 1 12:05

just taken a picture of the cowboy hat, probably, but you were standing there, you'll love this one. We have our trivia boxes in this podcast room for 80s and 90s. I have a voice student. She's an adult, she's wonderful, and she kept asking me for a save the date printout for our recital. She had people she wanted to invite. So I saw her a few weeks ago and she's like do have a save a date. I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, quick, pick up that 80s box. So she except the trivia and holds it and I took her picture because it reminded me to do a save the date. That doesn't make sense because it's the 80s oh, it's a date whatever you gotta do listen.

Speaker 2 12:41

you know what. Everybody has their tech, their tactics. I am a list person. Like I write 80, a hundred lists. I mean you've seen mine too, I know, and so and I do screenshots as well all the time. And and I and my kids know, like if they'll tell yours, or probably the same way if they tell me something, and I'm like if you don't see me write it down, or you, don't write it down.

Speaker 2 13:01

It will leave my brain and it happens all the time and I'm like, did you write it down? And I'm like, I have post-its, like post-its are my besties, because I write notes on post-its and stick them on, like my calendar on the microwave, like smart, I like, and I'm also a visual person, so I get it. Anyway, we're talking about unsolved mysteries.

Speaker 1 13:25

We are. So if you, if I say, stand here and hold this, prop it's, I promise she's not doing anything weird with it, it's for her mental cues, and you can also say no, it's okay, I understand.

Speaker 2 13:34

Kitty, I'm not going to pretend to sleep standing up, although I'm the game. I'm like sure, all right, you're like on the floor, I'm like.

Speaker 1 13:40

I don't think that's necessary. Whatever sleep means to you.

Speaker 2 13:45

Oh, elusive, elusive.

Speaker 1 13:47

Elusive sleep, because here's a segue we watch too much All in Solve Mysteries. That was not a good segue, not recently. Here we go, all right. So let's talk a little bit about how the show came to be. Oh yeah, all right. So this TV series began in 1985 as a series of specials.

Speaker 2 14:06

Oh, like TV specials.

Speaker 1 14:07

Right, so it wasn't like a full show that was on every week.

Speaker 2 14:11

So let's tell the young kids out there what TV specials were TV?

Speaker 1 14:15

specials were kind of just what it sounds like a special event. Yeah, it's like a special event. Sometimes it would be on one time, Right Like a Christmas special or a.

Alien Abductions and Paranormal Content

Speaker 1 14:22

Thanksgiving special Could be an after school special which was more like an like a movie, tv movie, but it could also I don't know, it could be a mini series, which is a little bit different than what this was, which is like a set number three or four or five that covered maybe a book or like maybe like three episode special event or like right, yeah, so these were.

Speaker 1 14:44

These didn't come in like certain amounts they would. I think they were kind of sporadic at first, okay, and they focused on missing people mostly, and then they evolved into a weekly series later that covered unsolved cases, crimes, disappearance, disappearances, paranormal events, yeah, and this was the co-creation of terry dunn muir and john costgrove um, terry's a woman and then john so man woman team, uh, and they have been there since the start and they're behind the new series and they were both on the documentary that came out in 2023 so they've been there since 85, so they must be pretty.

Speaker 1 15:25

They were pretty young then when they started yeah, I think so and and I'll tell you kind of how they kind of came to be uh, let me see, I have it in my notes somewhere but I'll get to it but essentially they had worked together to produce a different special, just on, basically, handguns in america. It was more of like a documentary type thing, which makes me kind of think that might have been more of a film school thing or something.

Speaker 2 15:50

Okay.

Speaker 1 15:50

And they loved working together and in the process they uncovered all these crazy cases.

Speaker 2 15:56

Yeah, were they, just in general, no it doesn't Nothing I found. I was just curious. Yeah, I think not that you have to be romantical to work with somebody.

Speaker 1 16:02

No, no, I don't think they were okay. It doesn't.

Speaker 2 16:11

It doesn't seem that way, um okay but before robert stack was a host, raymond burr was a host. I was, oh god. I thought aaron burr, that's like from the dead. What a crappy name. Why would you name your kid ray Burr?

Speaker 1 16:22

Raymond Burr, someone named Carl Molden and then Robert Stack, so two unknown peeps. Pretty much Raymond Burr was in a few things, I don't have it on here though Aaron Burr, aaron Burr, you know he was in a duel, the Ten Dual Commandments. He's in that song Anyway. So right away, the show was really popular for its interactive format, encouraging viewers to offer tips that led to solving many cases.

Speaker 2 16:46

Yeah, because they had a hotline.

Speaker 1 16:48

They had a hotline and it was live staffed. Live staffed meaning yeah, because remember they would show the headquarters Mm-hmm, and so obviously they would produce the episodes ahead of time. The episodes weren't live, but when they were airing their hotline they were extra staffed. You could call anytime, anytime, but as the shows were playing they were just flooded usually with all sorts of calls and tips and things and, of course, probably people calling that nothing to do with anything, either hoaxes or just kids.

Speaker 2 17:13

You should cover this thing, but yeah so, my god, can I tell you a funny story? Okay, yeah totally.

Speaker 1 17:20

Oh god, did you call the hotline for unsolved?

Speaker 2 17:21

mysteries no, no, no, oh, okay, so they used to have hotlines for everything, right they?

Speaker 2 17:25

used to have 800 numbers and when I was in middle school this is such a middle school joke and you'll get why I'm telling you this in a minute On the back of Tampax there was an 800 number line you could call to ask questions. They had for girls, Like you could call and ask period questions, which is actually a great idea, Because if you live in a house where you can't ask somebody, you don't feel comfortable. But you could also call and ask get free samples delivered, and they had like an automated. I remember that. Yeah, so do you know what we would do? We would call and have them sent to boys' houses. Oh my, God.

Speaker 2 17:59

Samples of tampons I swear to God.

Speaker 1 18:04

That's so funny, that's so stupid. Did you ever like hear from anyone who was like confused by it?

Speaker 2 18:09

No, because they're not going to tell anybody. Like, hey guys, I got tampons in the mail, Like, but how dumb is that? Like what a waste of time and resources.

Speaker 1 18:18

I know right For something that they good they were trying to do right well, also on the on the other side of that, they were probably doing fine making money.

Speaker 2 18:27

So well, anyway, so that's I anyway.

Speaker 1 18:30

When you said hotline, I'm like oh yeah, I remember calling the tampax hotline, hotline, tampax, tampon pranks that does not sound like what you did, I know, but yes, tampon, tampon, prank, oh my God, okay. Okay, here we go. So I just found a few sort of common social commentary things on this. And basically in the mid 1980s which we were alive, but we were young, so just to kind of remind everyone listening, including our younger listeners, primetime television didn't have reality programming.

Speaker 2 19:04

No.

Speaker 1 19:05

There. Geraldo Rivera did have a few specials here and there, yeah, but it wasn't very common. And part of the reason for this is because back in 1955, there was a CBS series called Wanted that aired 1955. So think of like Unsolved Mysteries, slash America's Most Wanted. Aired 1955.

Speaker 2 19:25

So think of like Unsolved Mysteries slash. America's.

Speaker 1 19:27

Most Wanted All those things, and it featured real victims and law enforcement officials urging viewers to help them capture fugitives. But it was not popular. Nobody liked it. People complained about it. People wanted to be entertained. They didn't want this nonsense up on their tv, they just wanted their dick van dyke show they did, and so for like 30 years there was nothing else like that whoa wild yeah. And there were less options, obviously for networks it's not like now, where you can try a show on spot tv and see how it does, or whatever.

Speaker 1 19:59

I mean, there's what like three networks when they yeah yeah, yeah if that, and in the 50s especially, I mean. So if you're taking a primetime slot for something it better be doing well, Right, you have to have, you have to appeal to the masses. There's no niche programming. Absolutely. And yeah, and people called to complain and basically say it was emotionally taxing, things like that I mean.

Speaker 2 20:19

I hear that guys.

Speaker 1 20:20

That's how I feel about true crime. I watch some ghost shit but I'm not watching true crime oh, here's some ghost shit and some alien shit.

Speaker 2 20:31

Well, even alien stuff scares you. Well, I don't know if I really believe in them much anymore, so it doesn't scare me, as it used but you did used to okay, I think I have a whole giant theory on all of that. Tell you later.

Speaker 1 20:40

Tell me later. Um, okay, so this is the part about where the two producers met. They had actually oh okay, so this was not film school. They had actually, for HBO, produced a 1983 special called Five American Guns, and they had used reenactments to portray the far-reaching consequences of handgun ownership and irresponsible handgun ownership, well seems like our country has learned a lot since then, haven't we 83, here we go.

Speaker 1 21:08

So that kind of format where you're reenacting things without not the real people but actors, and that sort of thing kind of got its start, because they did that in Unsolved Mysteries. For those of you who've never seen an episode, Yep, so in 85 is when they started doing the specials for Unsolved Mysteries, and then in 88, the fall of 88, was when a full season was ordered by NBC.

Speaker 2 21:33

Okay, I was going to say what network was it on? It was NBC.

Speaker 1 21:35

That's where it started, NBC, NBC. And so the producers themselves say like the first reenactments on the show were pretty rough, oh yeah. I would say, for a while they were and they actually and this one the whole time they've run the show. I don't think they really do it now with the 2020 reboot, but they tried to use real people whenever they could.

Speaker 2 21:56

What do you mean Like? I mean the victims, oh, you mean like the law enforcement is the people that it was about.

Speaker 1 22:09

I mean, obviously they were using their people Reenactments, but obviously like if someone assaulted you, do you really want to be in a reenactment? It didn't always work out that way and of course they would also try to interview them. They really wanted to get their voices and faces, but a lot of times in the reenactment they'd use the real law enforcement officers and things like that. So sometimes that worked out, sometimes it didn't, but those reenactments really became a trademark of the show and at that point, once people really started to get into it, is when they could hire more actors.

Speaker 2 22:30

Yeah.

Notable Solved Cases

Speaker 1 22:30

To kind of. So some of those early ones because they're not actors are a little rough. Yeah, I looked up a couple. I looked up as far back as I could get and there was one from 89. And it was just a little reenactment clip. It was like an assault in a parking lot and it was pretty bad. But also like the quality of what we watch now compared to them.

Speaker 1 22:49

So I don't know if it was the show or just like it just looks like it by today's standards. Um so, almost every episode the format was and still is, except for this lost love part. They would highlight one eerie or unexplained thing and one story of lost love every episode.

Speaker 2 23:09

I didn't realize the lost love thing was in every episode. Yeah, maybe because I would like turn it off and be like you were like I don't care, it's not aliens, love who cares.

Speaker 1 23:18

okay, so here's a little more on the hosting and raymond burr. So when it first premiered as those specials it was was Raymond Burr, so Burr is best known as being Perry Mason, so the guy who played Perry Mason.

Speaker 2 23:31

Oh, and look at us like all these, no names blah blah blah. And people out there that know actors, which is a lot of people that listen to this show.

Speaker 1 23:39

Probably like what, or at least Perry Mason. Yeah, they're gonna be like uh bitches, he's famous.

Speaker 2 23:44

Rainbows like crazy famous. Well, now I got to look up his picture because I can.

Speaker 1 23:47

The young people wouldn't probably know who that is.

Speaker 2 23:50

They might if they're into Look.

Speaker 1 23:53

I almost typed Aaron.

Speaker 2 23:54

Burr, everybody See? Oh yeah, I recognize his face. Now Check him out, he's good looking, is he? Looking, is he? Yeah, oh he is, he's tall, I don't know, that's it.

Speaker 1 24:09

I mean, we got different, we got different flavors. He is um, okay, oh, but see here's him old.

Speaker 2 24:12

Oh, he was in. Um. Okay, sorry, don't keep going because I'll go off on a whole side thing.

Speaker 1 24:21

So he only hosted the specials, but then he didn't return after that.

Speaker 2 24:26

Why, I wonder, I don't know. Oh, he died in 93.

Speaker 1 24:31

Okay, so not too long after that, bless you, thank you. It sounds like it was his decision not to do more, so maybe he was just busy, okay, and then they had the other guy I said who I think is relatively unknown, and then they quickly went to Robert Stack. He was in there by 89.

Speaker 2 24:54

Was he like? Did you read anything about his acting? Was he a theater actor?

Speaker 1 24:59

Yes, Doesn't his voice seem to like I don't have it in here. But that is. His background was stage. You could tell he just had that present. He'd been in, like other things, nothing that made him super famous till this.

Speaker 2 25:15

Didn't he have a cameo in one of the Naked Gone movies? Yes, he did Okay.

Speaker 1 25:21

Yeah, he did uh-huh okay. Yeah, he did okay. So we'll have a little more on him as we go. But I I looked up. Obviously there have been hundreds, probably thousands of cases, yeah, featured on the show. So I looked up some that are either really notorious from the show, meaning like either a crime was solved because it was on the show or people still talk about it or something interesting happened. So I have a few of them okay, let's see if I remember the first one I have is the berkshire's ufo incident.

Speaker 1 25:47

Yes, let's talk it okay, so it's a favorite among fans of the paranormal. This episode detailed multiple eyewitness accounts of a mass ufo sighting in 1969 in berkshire County, massachusetts.

Speaker 2 26:01

I remember this Okay, they played the rerun a lot too.

Speaker 1 26:05

Yeah, so people love this one, and what made this story unique is the number of people who didn't? Even know each other and in different locations, who reported seeing the same thing at the same time, some people claiming they lost hours of their memory and it's still one of the most compelling alien abduction stories and then like one of the most popular episodes they've ever had.

Speaker 2 26:26

So here's my thing with UFOs, as I'm going to say it like that, because a UFO doesn't necessarily mean it's from some alien in outer space, it's just an unidentified flying object, Right, those of you who have listened for a while. You know my husband was a pilot in the Air Force and he flew a plane that looks very weird. I guess I can say he's not active anymore. He flew the B-2. And it looks weird in the sky and I imagine that when they were testing that plane before it was public knowledge that they were making that plane, people probably thought, I mean, it was a UFO sighting.

Speaker 2 27:08

So that was one of the reasons why I started to not think aliens were real anymore is because there's a lot of explanations you can have, and not even just with our country itself having, uh, you know, testing planes and all the things. But um, I remember that because the interesting thing with alien abductions too is sometimes the power of suggestion kind of works its way into people's brains. So you hear other people have these experiences and you start to convince yourself that you did too not. That does happen all the people. I'm not saying that that always happens, I'm just saying sometimes it can, it can't but the interesting thing about that story is nobody knew each other.

Speaker 2 27:49

Yeah, they all saw it at the same time in different places, and unrelated, and we're talking in 1969 too, so there's no right, but then I think 1969 there was a lot happening with development in that time and space stuff and space and so more than likely and and you and the government's not going to explain it to you?

Speaker 2 28:12

no, they're not. They don't have to. They don't have to do. You know what I did in high school. So there's's a law and I don't. And I took a law studies class. There's a law and I can't remember them now where if you request information from the government, they have to send it to you. Yeah, I'm talking about open records, laws, something like that, I don't know. So our law studies teacher had us write a letter, figure out something we wanted to ask for information about, like you know, think of a big case or whatever. So some people would request information about, like JFK's assassination. So I, for those of y'all who have alien info out there, I sent a letter about the Roswell crash of whatever year it was, in the fifties, I think, fifties, sixties. The interesting thing. The interesting thing is that they have to send you information that they have, but they can black stuff out, redact it. So I got actually a whole giant bunch of files with interviews and facts and findings, but half of it was scratched out.

Speaker 1 29:19

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:19

Isn't that crazy.

Speaker 1 29:20

Isn't that weird, though, like what's the point of that law if they can just censor it?

Speaker 2 29:25

all.

Speaker 1 29:25

Well, because there is a loophole.

Speaker 2 29:27

So but I mean I will say it was interesting to read all the interviews with people. Yeah, like still really cool, it was still interesting. I wish I still had it, but um, but again I feel like that something like that is lost today because so much stuff you can just look up online.

Speaker 1 29:43

You just find it, yeah, and it's not as exciting. Someone else got the info and scanned it in and you can look at it.

Speaker 2 29:48

Do you remember having to go to the library with a microfiche?

Speaker 1 29:51

Yeah, and look back through newspapers. Yes, and you had to know what date you were looking for, because there's not really a search function and like get it off the shelf. When I first worked at the Orlando Sentinel in 2007, 2008, I mean, they probably still have microfiche, but like that was one thing I would still do sometimes. Oh yeah, because even though we were online and digital, our archives weren't.

Speaker 1 30:11

Right, right, so you had to go find it so like if someone needed something, either a caller or a reporter, I would have to go find the date and load it up and look through it.

Speaker 2 30:21

It had like a knobby thing.

Speaker 1 30:23

It was a knob and you could zoom in and zoom out and then like at least that one we had, because you know it was a more modern one for the time. I guess I could print stuff from there.

Speaker 2 30:31

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1 30:31

So, like once I found it, I'd just like print and it would print like a page of what I was looking at it of what I was looking at.

Speaker 2 30:37

It was cool Anyway, but it took a long time so alien abduction. It took a long time. That was my rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 30:42

Yeah, I remember that, so this one is kind of fun. In 1989, a woman named Kayla appeared in a segment seeking her biological father. Her mother had been part of a religious group that kept her a secret.

Speaker 2 30:55

Oh, that's like that book we read. It is the Milk. Carton Book it. Oh, that's like that book we read, it is the milk carton book, the milk carton book.

Speaker 1 31:04

Yeah, I mean not exactly, but kind of yeah. After the episode aired, kayla's real father saw it and they were reunited.

Speaker 2 31:08

Oh so that was one of the most heartwarming real life results of the show and that was 89, so that was really after it'd only been on for a season can you imagine how fucking crazy that would be to like be the dad watching that and be like, oh my god, like they're talking about me I know that lady, I know, yeah, I bet that is my kid, like the lady she's talking about, and wow, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 31:30

So then in 1990 there was a guy, a fugitive, named matthew mckinney. He was wanted for sexual assault and attempted murder. After his segment aired, a viewer recognized him, living under an alias in alaska, called and he was arrested and later convicted and sentenced to prison whoa yep uh 1991, the case of patricia stallings.

Celebrity Appearances and Fugitive Cards

Speaker 1 31:53

oh, this is crazy. So patricia was convicted of poisoning her infant son and so they aired her story because she claimed innocence and like was pretty believable, but she'd been convicted of it. A viewer who was a very specific medical expert recognized the child's symptoms as a rare genetic disorder, not poisoning. Called was able to prove that she was innocent and had not poisoned her child. She was released from prison and her case became a landmark example of wrongful conviction, isn't?

Speaker 2 32:29

that wild so she was exonerated. Then, yeah, whoa, wow, that's crazy, because how frustrating for that poor mom being like I did not do this and nobody's believe me. And again, y'all remember this is the late 80s, so medical technology was not where we are now either. Yeah, especially if it's something rare.

Speaker 1 32:48

Right that you haven't seen or you don't have another explanation for Holy smokes.

Speaker 2 32:52

So imagine if they had never like aired her case. I know Because it got such a widespread thing. That person saw it. How terrible, yeah, really bad. I mean I'm glad that that it resolved, but yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 33:07

In 1993, fugitive Edward Harold Bell. He was a convicted sex offender who had escaped to Panama but after his segment aired, viewers spotted him on a beach and called authorities. He was arrested on the beach Fucking idiot, captured and extradited back to the US and he was convicted and imprisoned.

Speaker 2 33:26

So he's just chilling with a cocktail and they're like bitch. We just saw you on Unsolved Mysteries Beep boop, beep boop, 800 number. Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 1 33:34

And here come the Panama cops or whatever. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 33:37

Isn't that wild. And here come the Panama cops, or whatever.

Speaker 1 33:38

Oh my God, isn't that wild. Okay, so then, a capture, this one's of a woman, marie Hilly. This aired in 88.

Speaker 2 33:44

This was on the first season, first season.

Speaker 1 33:47

She poisoned her husband and attempted to poison her daughter, but she escaped. Like getting arrested, oh no, she escaped prison. Sorry, she was in prison, how'd she get out. It didn prison. Sorry, she was in prison. How'd she get out? It didn't say she escaped and lived under multiple false identities. But after the show aired, a viewer recognized her in a small alabama town. She was apprehended and put back in prison, where she remains today.

Speaker 2 34:12

Did they have any updates on their ghost stories? Did you see any of those?

Speaker 1 34:15

I didn't I mean I guess you don't really solve a ghost story. But like, yeah, nothing like solved, solved. And then the final one I have that's kind of in this true crime realm is have you heard of john list?

Speaker 2 34:28

okay, this is.

Speaker 1 34:30

You know, I don't know, this is a killer who lived a double life and his original air date was of his story was in 89, but essentially in 1971, his whole family, so wife, four or five kids, all found murdered in their house. But he was missing. So they thought it's probably him. At first they thought maybe he was like kidnapped or something, but then all these signs pointed to like him killing his whole family and leaving Jesus. So that was in 71. So this aired in 89. So an age progressed bust. So not just a painting or a drawing but like a 3D by a forensic scientist was featured on the show and a viewer tip led to his arrest in Virginia where he was living under a new identity.

Speaker 2 35:14

Oh, my God, isn't that?

Speaker 1 35:16

wild.

Speaker 2 35:17

See this true crime shit stresses me out Like I'm stressed out listening to all this. I cannot believe you can listen to that and go to sleep.

Speaker 1 35:24

Well, thankfully it's a little early, hopefully. I mean it always lives in there. Right, it lives in my head.

Speaker 2 35:31

I mean, I don't mean you specifically, but like I have friends who like watch true crime bullshit before they go to bed.

Speaker 1 35:37

I don't necessarily watch it before I know I'll watch like fictional crime shows and even then, if it's too much if it's like a serial killer or this sounds weird.

Speaker 2 35:46

But if it's like war stuff, like uh, like ncis, they've got a whole bunch of them in, like afghanistan or something, oh yeah no, so part of it is like the cultural tropes.

Speaker 1 35:56

I don't appreciate. I mean, I know lots of things happen in other countries, but like the way it's presented in a fictional show.

Speaker 2 36:02

I'm kind of like.

Speaker 1 36:04

I don't know about this, yeah, but also, but if it's just I don't know, it sounds bad. If it's like, oh, this person's missing and we got to find them and they're in the Navy, because they're the Navy criminal investigation unit, I'm like, okay, I can watch that.

Speaker 2 36:18

It depends what it is unit I'm like, okay, I can watch that. It depends what it is, I don't know. See, I I remember the true crime stuff on unsolved mysteries, but I do remember a lot more of the supernatural stuff, and maybe that's just because that's what I liked about it yeah, because I did have a lot.

Speaker 1 36:29

It did, oh yeah, oh yeah, it did. Um, it's just kind of like you said, the only real can't really update it, yeah are or things right, are those okay? So here's some other just interesting facts about the show. Ok, so I don't know if you remember this, because you mentioned Robert Sachs. I can't iconic voice, yeah, but do you remember how he had the Golden Gate Bridge behind him? Yeah, ok, so that was one, but each time they had a show, he filmed a new intro there.

Speaker 2 36:58

Right, because that was always fresh, fresh talk about whatever he was talking.

Speaker 1 37:01

But the case was that week which you know doesn't sound like that big a deal, but it was like but that is extra work and time for like just a couple minutes. Yep, there was a whole separate unit of like production team for the host shoot and then they had a separate unit for the updates.

Speaker 1 37:18

Oh yeah, because those were at the end yeah, because the minute that a story got solved, a team member would go and try to catch what's going on or make phone calls or whatever, and then they would try to record it to get it on air the next time. And so another thing they said is that some cases were solved before it even aired. So there's two parts to this. The first part is some of the like producers or the researchers on the show would be like I'm going to make a few phone calls and they would. They would fix it, they would solve it or they would, oh, whoops.

Speaker 2 37:50

So like whether it was, they would solve it while they were filming it. Yeah, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 37:54

They'd like follow the trail and be like.

Speaker 2 37:56

Oh, I think.

Speaker 1 37:58

I kind of know what happened, or let me look at the files. Most often, though, that would happen with lost love stuff.

Speaker 2 38:05

They would be able to track down the person before it aired. Well, because they have the resources. The normal person does Exactly.

Speaker 1 38:09

And again, we're not talking that they would go on Facebook or whatever. They would have to research yeah, because this is before internet, right, but they could find addresses and names, names and you know things like you said that normal places wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 38:23

Again when I worked at the newspaper.

Speaker 1 38:24

We had all that stuff as well, right, but then in other cases cases would be solved the night of the broadcast, and sometimes it would air on the East Coast and before it aired on the West Coast.

Speaker 2 38:37

It was solved. That's wild, like the person was arrested or found or whatever, just kidding, not unsolved anymore. So the producers called that clusters Like a clusterfuck yeah.

Speaker 1 38:51

And then they kind of joked. They'd say like somehow all the good tips came from Cleveland Ohio. Everything happens in the Midwest. We tell y'all that Even if it wasn't in Ohio, that would be where the legit calls would come from I thought that was funny. Okay, so this is so funny? So, because they would find actors to look like the people or, at the time, the actors themselves would get something called a fugitive card, which was verified by Unsolved.

Speaker 2 39:21

Mysteries.

Speaker 1 39:21

So they didn't get freaking arrested.

Speaker 2 39:24

That's great, or?

Speaker 1 39:24

if, like someone would be like I'm the funny they'd be. Like you did see me. I was on TV, I'm an actor, and it was like a whole thing.

Speaker 2 39:34

I could see that though, because people were stupid. Like humans are stupid, well, we are. It's like oh, that looks like that guy, correct. Like humans are dumb and we can't like separate. Yeah, we can't separate performers from real life. It happens to us all the time. Yeah, I mean not with this podcast. I'm talking about like we're us on the podcast, right, but like when we're on stage, you know I'm always wigged and like, yeah, you know, whatever it it. For instance, the last show I was in, I was had a British accent. We all did everybody. And afterwards we were talking to a friend of one of our cast mates and they were like they kept looking at us weird and they were like I'm sorry, it's just very like disconcerting to hear you all speak in your American voice.

Speaker 1 40:24

Well, the reverse of that is Hugh Laurie, who is Dr. House. Who's British?

Speaker 2 40:31

And he's American, so he uses an.

Speaker 1 40:32

American accent on the show and when you actually hear him talk, because, again, it's really weird, we're stupid and we can't separate and he's just a great performer.

Speaker 2 40:37

Oh yeah, and you're a great performer. Well, I mean, it's really weird, we're stupid and we can't separate, just a great performer oh, yeah, and you're a great performer well, I mean, it's just any. Any time somebody put if you, if you are good at what you do or you like what you do, right, even if you're not good at it, if you like it, it's hard to separate terrible at it, do you know? I mean like it's so hard to separate two things like because, again, humans are dumb and we don't know.

Speaker 1 41:02

So that's hilarious. So why do?

Speaker 2 41:03

they call them fugitive cards, though I don't know, because they're not fugitives.

Speaker 1 41:07

I guess it's to be like I'm not a fugitive.

Speaker 2 41:10

Shouldn't it be a non-fugitive card?

Speaker 1 41:12

Probably but they call them a fugitive card. It should be called a get out of jail free for it and they occasionally would give them to people who weren't the actors but who just looked a lot like the people that weren't them. They would get calls and they're like everyone's saying I'm that murderer, but like I'm not Can you please give me a fugitive card Like here's all my proof that I'm not that person. So they would give them out to like civilians too, like regular people.

Speaker 2 41:35

Oh, that's great.

Speaker 1 41:36

Yeah, so because these reenactments did hire actors.

Speaker 2 41:42

I found a few famous people who have been in Unsolved Mystery reenactments.

Social Impact and Legacy

Speaker 1 41:44

I can't wait, the first one earning their first acting credit on stage for a reenactment scene in Unsolved Mysteries in 1992. Scott Foley, no, that'd be so great though I wish. Who was it? Matthew McConaughey, he was in Unsolved Mysteries, that's him on the show.

Speaker 2 42:02

Oh, come on, precious, here we go YouTube.

Speaker 1 42:05

We'll put it on the socials. That was like Days of Confused days right 92. So it probably was after that, or maybe he was filming it at that time.

Speaker 2 42:14

Days of Confused was somewhere around there?

Speaker 1 42:16

Yeah, because I used to watch it in high school all the time. So he, in the episode, the reenactment, he played a texas man who was shot and killed after mowing the lawn. Yep, and, by the way, the fugitive that they were talking about in his episode was identified by two viewers of the pod, the podcast, the broadcast, and he was arrested. Oh, that's the panamon guy, that's the Panama girl.

Speaker 2 42:41

Katie, you need to fact check yourself. She's like she's surprised by her own research all the names, especially the three named things.

Speaker 1 42:51

Okay, like Richard Alan Smith, like they all blend together, can you um recap.

Speaker 2 42:55

That for me um yes, that's the Panama guy.

Speaker 1 42:59

So the guy just said he got shot no, no, he shot someone, so matthew mcconaughey was the victim oh, okay, he was the victim, okay, so he was playing the victim who got shot, correct? And then that episode that it was about okay, is the guy that they found on a panama beach. I thought you said he was a sex offender.

Speaker 1 43:20

Well, maybe he was I mean okay I think they said um he was attempted murder. So I think the guy he shot in Texas must not have died and that he was, yeah, attempted murder. Ok, ok, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 43:34

So he attempted to murder Matthew McConaughey. So Matthew McConaughey was not a fugitive, he was a victim of a fugitive, correct, ok, got it. Got it, now I'm tracking. Now I'm tracking.

Speaker 1 43:44

And the person his reenactment was about, yes, was identified from being on the program.

Speaker 2 43:50

Okay, and arrested.

Speaker 1 43:51

All right, all right, here's another one, cheryl Hines. Oh, cheryl Hines, from Carburet, enthusiasm Yep RV suburgatory.

Speaker 2 44:07

And she married to rfk jr. Oh, I don't know, is she, is she?

Speaker 1 44:08

oh, I didn't know that, poor cheryl, oh you're right, she is, but she appeared in several reenactments in the 1990s. Interesting, yeah. And then daniel day kim. He was on lost and hawaii oh yeah, he was on several reenactments in the 90s and there is a rumored narration appearance by Scott Bakula, which he has never confirmed. It says he may have narrated a segment or appeared in the early reenactments, but it is not confirmed by the show, or him, isn't it?

Speaker 2 44:40

It would not be easy to find out, though.

Speaker 1 44:43

That's why it's mysterious. That's a weird mystery Because I don't think he said no either.

Speaker 2 44:44

But why find out, though? That's why it's mysterious. Well, why?

Speaker 1 44:45

that's a weird mystery because I don't think he said no either. But why like?

Speaker 2 44:49

that's dumb. Why would you just not say I fucking voiced over unsolved mysteries. I have no idea. Was he embarrassed? I mean he what? I don't know. I don't know either quantum leap that was a good show.

Speaker 1 45:00

Man loved that show it was a good time. So we had talked a little bit when I talked about true crime of the 80s and 90s in general, about some of the benefits of these type of programming, right Because. And so we've already talked about this, but I just wanted to recap, because as I was doing this research, I was reading a few other things about all of that right. So, showing unsolved mysteries, whether they're crime or UFOs or ghost stories or paranormal, they do have some benefits that have been documented by researchers and things like that One is-.

Speaker 2 45:36

Scaring the shit out of kids.

Speaker 1 45:37

One, one period, so a big one, is exposing systemic failures Right. So, unsolved cases really highlight shortcomings of the system, or like the one where the mom didn't poison her baby or whatever. That forensic science often isn't getting the funding that it needs. Law enforcement, the justice system, don't always work. Some mysteries point to lack of resource, outdated technology or biased investigations and as the general public learns a little more about that, that helps us kind of be like that's not right or move those things forward.

Speaker 1 46:13

Or maybe we're on jury one day and we're like, hey, I know about like biased convictions because I've seen it on the shows I've watched or the podcast I've listened to, and that kind of goes into the next one, which is just challenging perceptions of justice. So some cases raise questions about whether the perpetrators are brought to justice or if the victims are truly remembered and honored, just like what that whole process looks like. Right, also reveals social injustice, particularly in things that have to do with marginalized communities disproportionate impact of violence and also wrongful convictions, yeah, yeah. And then also exploring the role of media, right, so what I kind of just said. It can influence public perception, so there's a responsibility that lies in that, obviously. But it can also create a sense of community engagement around these things which we talked about with True Crime too. How, hey, maybe I can help solve this thing, or maybe I should be more observant, or whatever that may be. So sometimes these shows kind of they make you feel engaged with the thing that happened. Did it talk?

Speaker 1 47:23

about negative effects with the thing that happened. Did it talk about negative effects? It does say psychological impact and social anxiety Trauma. So it does say it can fuel anxieties about safety and security within a community, including things like paranoia, and can sometimes lead to violence because you're overly worried. We think of these stories of people an Uber driver pulling into the wrong driveway and they get shot because people are freaking paranoid.

Speaker 2 48:00

There's an old Twilight Zone episode Y'all should look it up and watch it about this very thing. It's called the Monsters on Maple Street. Have you watched it? Okay, I love old Twilight Zone. Like I'm talking, black and white Twilight Zone, okay, cooper also loves them, and every now and then we'll just turn them on because you can watch them on Hulu or I think that's where we watch them.

Speaker 2 48:20

Anyway, the Monsters on Maple Street is an iconic episode. Anyway, monsters on Maple Street is an iconic episode and it's about people turning on each other because they have the ideas of whatever. I don't want to tell you the end of it, but they constantly think that the other person is a monster, the other person is, and it's because the power of suggestion, kind of like, Mm-hmm, a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 48:44

I mean, I think that that's real, that's real. Yeah, for sure it is.

Speaker 2 48:47

But then the end, because, like, my favorite thing about those old Twilight Zone episodes is everything is revealed in the last five seconds, like and you're like what? And it's all social commentary. Oh, every episode, that's what it's about. Yeah, those shows are so smart and honestly, I feel like we can do like a whole thing on Twilight Zone one day. But there I felt like those episodes were very progressive in their messaging because and it was interesting how they did it, because they made it look like entertainment but the social commentary was heavy. Yeah, and I think I missed that as a kid. Right, because you were just focused on, like the story part of the mystery. Yeah, but anyway, that's what it made me think of. So look it up. Right, because you were just focused on, like the story part or the mystery. Yeah, but anyway, that's what it made me think of. So look it up.

Speaker 1 49:28

Yeah. And so one final thing on that part, just the power of storytelling. So it's so funny because it uses social commentary in here. Unsolved mysteries, particularly when it's a narrative format, is a powerful tool for social commentary. Yeah, narrative format is a powerful tool for social commentary. Yeah, it can create empathy, the human cost of crime and spark conversations about broader social issues.

Speaker 1 49:55

You know, like when we talked about Face on the Milk Carton and that sort of thing how these kind of spun from not necessarily unsolved mysteries, but from more attention out there and trying to help spread the word about things that were happening that people might not know. So a few final things on Unsolved Mysteries. So in the end they have helped solve over 260 investigations between 1988 and 2002. The ones that they've covered since the reboot. Nothing has been solved from those, Although it has brought some like renewed interest to some of the cases. A lot of them are cold cases. Um, and then the tips have led to numerous convictions and several prisoners being exonerated and over 100 families reunited with loved ones wow, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 50:42

here's, though, that I'm curious about marginalized communities, people of color, right. I really wonder, because I feel like probably not a big percentage.

Speaker 1 51:16

You're probably right. I'm just curious, Just because we didn't see that anywhere.

Trivia and Wrap Up

Speaker 2 51:20

Because they're you know, I feel like, yeah, great, all these wonderful things have happened, but who were we highlighting Right? Like I think of that with all the stuff, even nowadays, especially cause we're in this weird pendulum swing backwards. Um, I think about that too, like, oh yeah, we like it, it made a difference, it impacted these people, but I'm like great, but it was just like one, maybe one bubble of people.

Speaker 1 51:47

You're probably completely right, you know what I'm saying, I'm just curious and I wonder if in the reboot any of that is being that's what I was about to say, yeah. Potentially, so we'll have to do a circle back, and that potentially. And so there's also an unsolved mysteries official podcast. Now Is there. Yeah, do you listen to it? I didn't even know about it until. I did this research, so I'm going to check it out. And Unsolved Mysteries episodes the older ones are currently streaming on Amazon Prime, youtube, peacock and other platforms too.

Speaker 2 52:17

I'm going to have to go check out a few and scare myself and they have their official website too unsolvedcom Dot com.

Speaker 1 52:27

Dot com website too, unsolvedcom and dot com dot com. Slash watch if you want to know where to watch it. But um, that's kind of it. Sorry, I didn't have a lot on ghost stuff. No, no, that's a loop back to that.

Speaker 2 52:32

No, I mean, look, hey, you did the research. Yeah, you got lots of good information.

Speaker 1 52:37

Good, I did and I want to like watch some of the I know and I want to watch the documentary too. I I was hoping I could watch it before today, but because we had so much to watch for Dawson's Creek, I didn't, but I did read several articles about it, interviews with the producers, and that was really interesting.

Speaker 2 52:53

Well, whenever we do watch the documentary, we'll circle back and talk about it. That sounds good.

Speaker 1 52:57

Yeah, yeah, cause maybe there'll be more on that Cause. I want we'll come back and talk about it. All right, let's do trivia, okay.

Speaker 2 53:03

Here we go, I'm going to hand you 80s, since it was 80s and 90s, and so it was until 2002. I didn't realize it was on that long to be real, yeah. I thought it was just like late eighties, mid nineties and now it's back. All right, guys. So those are you who are new here. We of every episode. Well, when we remember, we have 80s trivia and a 90s trivia and we just ask each other one of each, and here we go. Hold on. Let me make sure I'm doing it correctly, all right.

Speaker 1 53:32

You did it. Okay, I'll go first. Yep, this is a good one. I don't know if I would have known it, but you might. Okay. What was the first hit single from the heavy metal gender glam band twisted sister?

Speaker 2 53:44

Oh, my sister had this record and he was eating raw meat on the front. Is that the school?

Speaker 1 53:50

one. I think so. It's multiple choice. Oh, yes, yeah, I was like if she says it Okay.

Speaker 2 53:58

Wait Right, that's really impressive.

Speaker 1 54:00

We're not going to take it. Oh, I want to rock. You can't stop rock and roll.

Speaker 2 54:07

The kids are back, we're not gonna take it. No, we ain't gonna take it. We're not gonna take it anymore. Yeah, my sister had that record. That's a really good song and d snyder was on the front and like his full makeup. Yeah, it had this giant. It was probably fake giant, like raw fake meat thing looking all edgy all edgy with his look at all edgy with your like when I said, the clueless fashion was edgy oh yeah, I was like I re I re-heard that when I re-listened did you giggle?

Speaker 2 54:41

I giggled, yeah, what am?

Speaker 1 54:42

I talking about.

Speaker 2 54:43

Oh God.

Speaker 1 54:44

Okay.

Speaker 2 54:46

Oh, this is Okay. This is something you have to guess. It's like taboo I can't say a certain amount of words.

Speaker 1 54:53

Okay.

Speaker 2 54:54

Alright, so. So Pacey had this on the top of his head as like a makeover thing that we talked about. Oh, a slick back, no. A comb back and lots of oh frosted tips.

Speaker 1 55:11

Yes, yeah, I was thinking of him at the wedding, I don't know why. I remember when he had like his, like feathered bangs but frosted tips.

Speaker 2 55:18

Frosted tips. So for those of you that don't know, in the 90s all the boys had the little highlighted tips of their hair.

Speaker 1 55:25

And the start of season two of Dawson's. Creek. Pacey gets frosted tips.

Speaker 2 55:30

Frosted tips. So I couldn't say hair blonde, dye, ends or style, but you could say Justin.

Speaker 1 55:35

Timberlake oh shit, yeah, I could have.

Speaker 2 55:37

But you got it. Pacey was better, we just talked about it.

Speaker 1 55:40

And then you can say, hey, watch Dawson's Creek, everyone, I feel like that's going to come back.

Speaker 2 55:45

I feel like that style is going to come back.

Speaker 1 55:48

I didn't hate it, I didn't either.

Speaker 2 55:49

I think it's kind of fun.

Speaker 1 55:51

I didn't either.

Speaker 2 55:52

I think it's fun, I bet I don't come back.

Speaker 1 55:53

Especially when guys do different colors to their hair because you don't see it as much. I think it's fun. I think you do. Now you think so, Not as like girls that do it, I guess. Oh sure, True, true, but either way, All right. Well, thanks for listening guys to Unsolved Mystery. You do it. I'm like wait, oh no. And then the Twilight Zone started playing in my head so that wasn't it either. Well, anyway, I don't want to watch that back. I'm scared.

Speaker 2 56:24

You were like what is she doing? Hello, all right, all right Thanks guys, thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 56:29

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Speaker 2 56:35

See you next time, generation in between.