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Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
Xennial co-hosts Dani and Katie talk about their analog childhoods, digital adulthoods and everything in between. If you love 1980's and 1990's pop culture content, this is the podcast for you!
Generation In-Between: A Xennial Podcast
TGIF Series: Perfect Strangers, Revisited
If Larry and Balki are cornerstone characters of your early TV watching, this is the episode for you. We continue our rewatch of the most iconic shows from the TGIF programming block with Perfect Strangers that first debuted in 1986.
If you grew up with TGIF, you’ll find the theme song still slaps and the finale’s hot-air-balloon chaos is so very 90's. Listen in to all of our TGIF series!
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Hello everyone and welcome back to Generation in Between, a Xennial podcast where we remember, revisit, and sometimes relearn all kinds of things from being 80s kids and 90s teens. My name is Danny. I am Katie. And today, uh, we are in the third installment. Is that right? One, two, three. Yes. And then if you count the kickoff episode, we'd be in the fourth. Well, but okay It's the it's the fourth, it's the fourth in our TGIF series. Third show that we're gonna be in the first time. Third show. Okay. Yeah. So third third show in our TGIF series. That's right. That's correct. And today we are talking about perfect strangers. Yes. Which was the first show in the TGIF lineup, right? It was. Okay. So we went out of order as we established last time that we do not do things correct here. We do things wrong. So, um, right. So okay, I did not have any kind of fun little intro worked out. So we're just gonna jump right in. Okay. I I have to say, I didn't find a lot of deep stuff about this show. Huh. I expected to find all kinds of controversial stuff. Right. Commentary, etc. etc. And I really didn't find much. Okay. Which is interesting.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I would have thought more than like other shows, maybe that would be the case.
SPEAKER_03:I know. And we can talk about it a little bit more after at the end. You and I can assess our opinions on it. Okay. But let's go ahead and jump in. I'll tell you the summary. In case you've never seen the show Perfect Strangers, I'm gonna give you a summary. Um, this is the official one. A high-strung and cynical man's life is never the same when his naive but good-natured cousin comes to America to live with him. Yeah, I think it sums it up pretty good. Perfect. Perfect. Um, it was created by Dale McRaven and Miller Boyette.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, Tom Miller and Robert Boyette. That is a common uh place name usage in TGIF because they were like the kings of it, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Miller Boyette. Katie likes to say Chef Wear D.
SPEAKER_00:The Chef Boyardy of TGIF. So it's interesting because I was thinking to myself when we were rewatching, I was like, man, I guess you don't even have to have children on a show to have the cheesy lesson at the end. Right? Because like that music comes up, and then like Larry and Valkyrie are like having like a heart to heart about something. I was like, Oh, okay, like you don't even need like kids now this apparently to work.
SPEAKER_03:You being cheesy is ageless. It is, it's ageless. I mean, as we know, as we know, as we know. Here we are. The show was on for eight seasons. It started in uh on March 25th, 1986, and then it ran until August 6th, 1993. I didn't realize it started in 86. Yeah, that's way back. We'll see why uh in a second. It originally aired on Tuesday nights. Okay, okay. Uh it had a short six-episode first season in the spring of 86, then it moved to Wednesdays in the fall that same year. Okay. But it two years later, in March of '98, it was moved to Fridays as the anchor for the TJIF lineup, which is probably why we didn't think it started as early because we didn't see it until 1988, probably. Probably.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Is my guess. Um, it did air on Saturday nights for a very short period in '92. Okay. Which I do not remember that.
SPEAKER_00:Wasn't that? I feel like in our TGIF kickoff, they were trying to do something with Saturday nights too. Yeah. And it didn't work out.
SPEAKER_03:So I it was like a Saturday party or some something like that. Saturday night party.
SPEAKER_00:Saturday night party. Not to be confused with CBS's block party. Maybe that's what I was thinking. But there was some, there was something else they moved to Saturdays to briefly to try to like bring everybody over.
SPEAKER_03:And it didn't work. It didn't work. It didn't work. Friday night, that's the place to be. So the inspiration, inspiration for the show, Tom Miller said it came about in the wake of the 1984 Summer Olympics, which, if you remember, was in Los Angeles. Um, he said it made him think about how all these different people from other countries were coming to America and how they were adjusting to like our customs and our culture as a whole. So that kind of gave him the idea for this kind of fish out of water comedy, which is where I thought I would find so much commentary.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, but I didn't. I mean, there was some, but nothing like huge, and we'll talk about that in a second. So they also got inspiration from themselves from buddy sitcoms like Laverne and Shirley and Morkin Mindy, both of which they produce Miller Boyette.
SPEAKER_01:Buddy sitcoms?
SPEAKER_03:Buddy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I've never heard of that before. Girl, what? I mean, I've heard of those shows. I just have never heard that term.
SPEAKER_03:Buddy sitcoms. I like it. We could have one.
SPEAKER_00:This is a buddy sitcom.
SPEAKER_03:This is a buddy sitcom.
SPEAKER_00:Literally, right now.
SPEAKER_03:Literally, I was watching that show, and I when I was watching Perfect Strangers, I was like, if Katie and I run the show, she would be Larry and I would be Balkie, I swear.
SPEAKER_00:Right? Yeah, now that you say that. Right. Well, it's funny, and we'll get to it when we talk about our episodes, but there were a few times I was like, I am Larry. I know!
SPEAKER_03:I actually wrote it in my literally I am Larry, right? And I was I was like, I am Balkie. Now I don't know what that says about either of us. Right. Right.
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't writing mine as a compliment to myself. Me either. Oh, me either. Larry.
SPEAKER_03:Mine was when uh Balkie was like telling that story when they were on that double date. Yes. And he's cracking himself up and nobody else is laughing. And it's like so stupid. I'm like, yep, yep, been there. All right. So speaking of Balkie, the show's premise is that Balkie Bartakamoose is an immigrant from a fictional Mediterranean island. Mepos does not exist. Um he moved into, he moves into his distant cousin Larry Appleton's Chicago apartment, where all the sitcoms shenanigans ensue, um, mostly due to misunderstandings of American culture or Balkie just being naive and silly. And they made his home country fictional because they thought that when they said like all the bizarre customs that happen in Meepos might be offensive if they used a real country, which of course they would. Yeah, that I mean that was smart actually. But my question is okay, so you made up the country, but it's still the same like area, and the same like lifestyle, like the sheep herding and all of that. Well, I mean, not everybody that lives there. No, but I'm saying those that's like a real lifestyle people do have. Well, sure. So I'm like, but then I thought you know what it made me think of was on Golden Girls when they have because Rose was from uh Saint Olaf. Saint Olaf, yeah, Minnesota, right? Yes, and she had all this goofy stuff about being from Minnesota and all this stuff. So I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I yeah, I don't know how to feel about that.
SPEAKER_03:Now Bronson Pinchot, I can't say his last name correctly, so just bear with me. I'm gonna say it different every time. He is of Italian and Russian descent. Okay, so he is not Mediterranean. Hmm. So yeah, pieces to think about as we're talking about as we're talking.
SPEAKER_00:I did I didn't realize as I was watching it that America and America, American culture was a punch, like was a joke. Well, and I constantly were like really funny, but like it was constantly like, well, that's in America, or we're in America, or that's how they do it here, or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:That's how they do it, that's how they do it here. Well, and I think too, America wasn't it, it wasn't exactly like this is right, and this is like it was like, yeah, that's kind of like I felt like sometimes Balkie would be like, Well, that's silly. Why are we doing that? And they'd be like, Well, that's how we do it in America, and he's like, huh. Or like how he would take everything literally, yes, like don't move in that first episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he literally from right here.
SPEAKER_03:And I think that wasn't really making fun of his culture, it was kind of just making fun of him, right? Right, and there was a fine line there because some of it was just jokes about his personality and the type of person he was who could really be from anywhere, and then part of it was like, are you making fun of him being a fish out of water or from somewhere else? Which is it?
SPEAKER_00:Or are we giving um a perspective on America from this person's eyes that's kind of making fun of America?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know. I think there's a lot of levels, and I think after we talk about all the history and some facts, we should really talk about what our opinion is of this. Because I think it's not, it's tricky. So we'll come back to that. But anyway, it was a made-up country. Okay, so that I was glad to read.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because girl, as soon as I started doing this reach this research, before I even got to that, I was in the Google. Like, is Meepos a real country? No, it is not. No, it's not. All right, so this is from Wikipedia, and this was their description of the show in its entirety, and I thought it was so good, so I had to throw it in here. You ready?
SPEAKER_01:I'm ready.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Initially working at a discount store and living in a small apartment, they eventually develop rising careers working for a respectable newspaper, move into larger residences, date two best friend flight attendants, and expand their lifestyle through various experiences, all while learning to balance Balkie's wide-eyed enthusiasm and meposian ways with Larry's real-world ambitions and American pragmat how do you say that? Pragmatism? Pragmatism. Hey! Neurotic Larry is frequently as inept as Balkie, if not more so, and often gets the pair into situations that only Balkie can set right. Hmm, I never thought about that before. Which is true. Yeah. I'm thinking about that last episode, girl. I know we I can't wait to talk about it.
unknown:God.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, but were you giggling?
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, all right.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, why has everybody got to be like stuck in the sky? I know in every series finale. Like, what is happening?
SPEAKER_03:We we did watch some episodes, which we're gonna talk about after we get through all the facts and stuff. And the last one, it was crazy. It was crazy. It was but we'll talk about when we get there. Um, so originally the series was rejected by all the major TV networks. They said no, thank you. But Miller and company then pitched their series with Bronson Pinchot as the star of the show. And he had just got a lot of attention as Serge and Beverly Hills Cop.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. Where he played an effeminate art gallery employee with an unplaceable foreign accent. The interesting thing to me was I was talking to Troy as I was doing this research, and he was like, you know who I remember Balkie from? Is um he's like, he played like the exact same character in Beverly Hills Cop. I said, Well, actually, that's how he got this role. And my husband, who remembers movie lines forever, started going into his whole like little monologue, knowing all the lines and doing all the mannerisms. I was like, what? I've never seen Beverly Hills Cop. It's good. I've never seen it. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Never seen it. Um, anyway, so once they said they had Bronson Bronson Pen Show, is that how you say a peen show? Yeah. Okay. Um, ABC signed on, and it was originally titled The Greenhorn. I don't know what a green horn is. It's like an immigrant, right? No? Yeah, I think it's yeah, I think it's a term for immigrants and a person and it just it means like, yeah, something that's green. I guess a green horn would be like a young animal, I would think.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm serious. Like, is it real? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I gotta stop. I gotta stop.
SPEAKER_03:I love how we I just throw words in. I'm like, I don't know what that means, but I just put it in my research, anyways. You know, anyway, but okay, so by the time the negotiations were over, um Bronson Pinchot was actually unavailable by then because he was cast as a gay attorney in the NBC series Sarah alongside Gina Davis.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, yep.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, but it was a short-lived show because it failed to get ratings. It was canceled in May of 1985, not long after it came out. So after that, he was back on board and um they were back to developing the show. Okay. So it took, you know, because things take a while. Like they present, they, you know, hit a show and they're like, hey, what about this? And they're like, no. And they're like, we got this guy, because he said yes. But in that, in the meantime, he had already taken another job because you gotta work.
SPEAKER_01:That's how it works.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta work. So the season the series was retitled Perfect Strangers, and the OG Larry was not who we know as Larry, it was the comedian Louis Anderson. Do you know who Louis Anderson is? I know, and I looked up a picture, like they have a picture of them, and it is just weird. Yeah, it just doesn't seem and maybe because I just know perfect strangers as the way we saw it, and it's hard to like, and like I feel like the actors looked like they could be cousins. That too. But Louie Anderson and Balkie do not look like they could be related. Um, a pilot episode was put into production, but that made them decide okay, this guy is really just not right for the role. And I just think of him as being like so silly in his own right. I know. I mean, I'm sure he could have acted his way through it, but yeah, it doesn't seem like it fit. It doesn't seem like a fit. Yeah, but I was just thinking too, like, as an actor, that's gotta suck. Mm-hmm. I mean, the same thing we talked about um Jaleel White, he thought he was Rudy in the Cosby show, was like flying there, and they're like, actually, just kidding, we're gonna use a girl. Oh, that's rough. I would suck. Like, you want so bad to get a part. I know, and then you get the part, I know, and you're like literally like in in rehearsals, or in this case, like filming a pilot.
SPEAKER_01:Filming a pilot. I mean, wasn't there what was the other show where they switched somebody out from the pilot?
SPEAKER_03:Uh Full House.
SPEAKER_01:Full House, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it happens all the time. I could not handle that. I would be devastated. Me too. Devastated. Okay, so after that, they told him bye-bye. They ran through several actors for the part of Larry, and the producers ended up choosing Marklyn Baker, who they had recently seen in a guest appearance on the TV show Moonlighting with Bruce Willis. Uh, they said that Marklyn Baker displayed immediate chemistry with Pinchot and he was cast, and the rest is Xennial history, obviously. Love. And they do have really good chemistry. They do. I I think too, like you can have good acting chemistry, but for physical comedy, sometimes you don't line up together. Like, you know, and for them to have both, I thought was so good.
SPEAKER_00:And I liked that, yes, Balkie sometimes frustrated Larry, but they they were always like still pretty kind to each other.
SPEAKER_03:I think they're like, I mean, Larry could be an ass, but then he would eventually come around. Yeah, like like you could tell that he cared about him. It wasn't just like, oh my god, this annoying guy in my life.
SPEAKER_00:The first episode a little bit, but you could tell like that they were cousins or almost like brothers or something. You know, it was like that kind of chemistry that read.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I liked that. Well, I I do understand his pain in that first episode where he's like, I just want to live alone. I know, I love that. He's like, I have eight brothers and sisters. I was like, I I could understand that struggle.
SPEAKER_01:Like you finally have your own space, and then someone you've literally never met before.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, I get it. Okay, so let's talk about the actors. There's just two big ones um and a little bit of their background. So we'll start with Balkie Bartakamoose, who was played by Bronson Pincho, who I've said his name so many times. You're doing a good job. I it's stressful. So he's got tons of acting credits, and uh actually, he had a lot more voice acting credits than I realized. So I'm just gonna give you a few for like the Xennial time frame. So, like I said, he was in Beverly Hills Cop. Uh, she's having a baby, true romance, Beverly Hills Cop three. He was not in Beverly Hills Cop 2 because he was filming Perfect Strangers. Okay. So um he was not, he didn't have time in his schedule for that, but then he did for um Beverly Hills Cop 3 because it was filmed after they were done.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So that's why he wasn't in the second one. Um, and he was also in the one they did in 2024. What did it? I wrote it down, Axel F. Hmm. Okay. I never saw that. So I don't even be knowing. Uh he was in First Wives Club as well. Um, he had featured guest roles on later TGIF shows like Step by Step and that weird show, Migo, that keeps coming up.
SPEAKER_01:We gotta figure this out. We gotta figure this out.
SPEAKER_03:And then other um sitcom classics like Third Rock from the Sun and Clueless. Okay. So he people know him, obviously. Uh so lots of cartoon voice work, such as Eek the Cat. Do you remember Eek the Cat? Okay, well, why would you remember? You don't like cartoons. Well, I do, and people out there will remember Eek the Cat.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, they will. Okay. If you remember Eek the Cat, you need to message us, okay? Um, also Duck Man, Cow and Chicken, Hey Arnold, and the Wild Thornberries.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, wow. Do you know any of those? Yeah, I know all those. I just don't know. You lie.
SPEAKER_03:You said you did. Oh, okay. You knew all of them but Eek the Cat. Yeah. Okay. It was really funny. Anyway, um, he was also um a Yale graduate.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, him and Marklyn Baker both went to Yale. Did they know each other there? Or are there age? No, no, they did not. Um, he was cat so after, so what did he I have yeah, he graduated with a degree in drama with full honors from Yale. So he's hella smart and talented. Not fair. Um after he was graduated, he was cast in an off-Broadway play in 1981, like pretty soon after he graduated. Nice. Um, like I said, he's Italian and Russian descent. Uh, this was a weird fact I found, and I don't know if you'll remember these commercials, but he was the voice of Max, the refurb, the refurbished Volkswagen bug on the commercials that came about in 2008. Do you remember these commercials? I don't remember these at all. Okay, I do because I had a Volkswagen Beetle um and I loved it. It was my favorite car. I had two of them, actually. It was my favorite car ever. I wish I still had it. I only got rid of it because I had babies and let me tell you, car seats and a Volkswagen. No, Beetle and a stroller in the trunk does not work. So, anyway, look it up. He was the voice of a car. So look it up. Also, speaking of his voice, he is a critically acclaimed narrator of audiobooks. Critically okay. Yes. He um he has earned multiple awards for his audiobook narration, including Audibles to 2010 narrator of the year and audiophile earphone awards.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm a big audiobook person, so this makes sense to me. If you don't listen to audiobooks, you're probably like, I don't even know what that is, but it's a big deal.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So, um, and I will say, as somebody who listens to audiobooks, if you have a bad narrative, Like it's not easy. I it is not an easy job to keep somebody interested in a book because anybody can sit down, most anybody can sit down and read out loud. But you can even remember this from being in school. Yeah. You had teachers when you were little who you loved to hear read stories. And then some that were like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And you I mean, it's a skill set. It is. It's a performing skill set. Absolutely. For sure.
SPEAKER_03:To be a storyteller.
SPEAKER_00:And it's um, it's competitive.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's a competitive industry too.
SPEAKER_00:Like especially to get the big ones.
SPEAKER_01:It's sort of like if you're competing for like a role in a movie or a TV show.
SPEAKER_03:Some of like the like the big books that are coming out, it's super competitive trying to land those like narration or reader roles. Yeah. Are you gonna narrate your audiobook? Probably. Yeah, you should. Yeah, I'll probably do it. I always really like it when nonfiction books, it's um it's the author. Yeah. Because a lot of time sometimes I'm always surprised when it's not. Right. Now I will say the share, the first installment in her autobiography, she reads some of it, and then she she's also older.
SPEAKER_00:I know.
SPEAKER_03:She reads some of it, and then she has the girl who played her in the share show, one of them. Um, and I'm forgetting I'm forgetting the girl's name on Broadway. She reads the rest. Oh, I like that. Because she's really good at doing the share voice. Yes. So they take turns. You sink, yeah. You still think it's her. Right, right. But like when I read um or listened to Tina Faye's book, I read it. Yeah, Amy Polar's. Oh, yes. Him reading it. I totally agree. I mean, mine's not really like an autobiography for sh per se. There are stories about me.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, they're my words, and it's not, like you said, nonfiction. So yeah, I'll probably do it myself. We're trying to figure that out right now.
SPEAKER_03:You should absolutely do it.
SPEAKER_00:And I don't have to compete with anyone, I'm just doing it myself.
SPEAKER_03:But I think it, I think it means more. And plus, what I like when authors, and I even like it with fiction, because Neil Gaiman, who is a big problem now, but I still like his books. Sorry, I know he's a jerk. It's like J.K. Rowling. Uh, anyway, I love his his fiction, and he would read a lot of his. And I feel like even in fiction, it's good because the author knows how they want that character to come across or what they want to emphasize or how they envision them sounding. So I like it.
SPEAKER_01:I like that too.
SPEAKER_03:And so, I mean, not so much that with nonfiction, but also yes, because you know how you felt when you wrote it, no matter what it is about. So, anyways, yeah, and there was one book I read, I listened to, um, and it the it was a nonfiction, and they were crying, like they were literally crying as they were reading it.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:I think it was Billy it was Billy Porter's book.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. Like he just got to a really hard part, and you could, and so of course, like I was a mess. But I think that that wouldn't have happened, like, you wouldn't have had that same reaction if like you had why would you read Billy Porter's audiobook? If I had read Billy Porter's audiobook, but if the voice actor read it instead of him, right? It's not the same. No, it's not. So, anyways, okay, moving on to uh Larry Appleton that was played by Mark Lynn Baker. Um, he had a lot of TV guest roles in the Xennial time period, like on Miami Vice, Moonlighting, which is how he got Perfect Strangers, Valerie, Full House, Hanging with Mr. Cooper, Sesame Street. He was on an episode of Sesame Street in the late 90s, um, Family Matters, and Allie McBeal. So he had a whole lot of guest roles even after Perfect Strangers. He's still acting. Um, and he's had a lot of more recent guest roles on shows like Blue Bloods, Law and Order, The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, She Hulk, okay, and Chicago Med.
SPEAKER_00:I saw him on Blue Bloods.
SPEAKER_03:You did? Yeah. I was like, that's Larry. Ah, yeah. Does he look the same? Yes. Yeah. And his and that voice. Yeah. He's got that voice. He looks the same. Um, the funny thing that I found about him, there was an HBO show called The Leftovers, okay, which is based on a book that I read. It's about the rapture and then the people who are left after, but it's not, it's not a churchy book. The leftovers. The leftovers, yeah. It's really good. But they made a TV series about it, and I never watched it. Um he actually plays himself, um, a fictionalized version of himself, and one of his scenes is set in St. Louis, which is where he was born. And I'll talk more about that in a second when I get to it. Um interesting thing, Lynn is actually his middle name, not part of his last name. Um, when he joined the actors union, there was already a Mark Baker. So um he combined his middle name with his last name to stand apart.
SPEAKER_01:Huh. So, I mean, surely in the history of time, there have been people with the same names that are.
SPEAKER_03:I think he just wanted to stand out. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So it's not like a requirement to have a different name. He just I guess not.
SPEAKER_03:I think he just wanted to stand out. So um I'll talk later on about him being in the leftovers later. So just keep that in your brain when I get to my random facts list. I'm ready. Okay. Um, something I found out that was interesting is Perfect Strangers is kind of a rare type of sitcom in that, especially of this time, it did not give B plots to its other characters. Like there weren't any episodes that were about like Jennifer or Marianne. Basically, everything was about Balkie and Larry.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And that was pretty much it. I mean, they had other characters that were with them, but the main storyline was always about one of them or both of them. One or both. Usually both. Um the two other characters, though, who were in almost as many episodes as them, were their girlfriends. So we're just gonna give them a little spotlight really quick. Okay. So we'll start with Jennifer, who was played by Melanie Wilson. Of course, her name is Jennifer. Of course. In 1986.
SPEAKER_01:I loved it. And she looked like, yep, she looked like a Jennifer. I know I love it.
SPEAKER_03:I know.
SPEAKER_01:And the hair, oh, she's sick.
SPEAKER_03:The hair and the fashion in those first couple seasons was just chef's kiss perfect. Um, she's best known for this show. Um, but you also may have seen her in other TV guest roles in the 80s, like on the A Team, Simon and Simon, also in Family Matters and Step by Step, because TJIF kind of intermingled a lot with their guest roles as we are learning. Fun fact I found out about her is she is the daughter of actor Dick Wilson, who is best known as TV's Mr. Whipple and the Charmin toilet paper commercials.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_03:I know.
unknown:I know.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. I know. It's so funny. Um, I didn't, I couldn't find a whole lot of information about her. Okay. She didn't really continue acting much longer after the 90s. Um, her and the actress who played Marianne, Rebecca Arthur, became really good friends during the show and they've stayed lifelong friends and still will still keep in touch and everything.
SPEAKER_00:I love that.
SPEAKER_03:So I love that. I like it when something cute and I mean they were together all the time on that show. Yeah, and and like you said, this was a little different from like a family matters or a full house because it wasn't that large, stretched out on top of the cast. Like you said, there were little features, and we know like Harriet comes in later and all that. But like and then that like they had the boss at the paper. Yeah, but even then, like the main storyline is really about the two or four of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So those are the two main women on the show. So, of course, like you're gonna bond over that. I would hope so.
SPEAKER_00:It doesn't always happen, right? You would hope so. It's good that it did.
SPEAKER_03:It did. So let's talk about Marianne, played by Rebecca Arthur. Um, you may have also seen her in Xennial shows, guest roles on New Heart, Remington Steel, um, about last night, the movie, um, get shorty, Grace Under Fire. Oh, yeah. Uh, she had a cameo, not really a cameo, it was like a little bitty role in one of my favorite 80s Christmas movies, Scrooge. Oh, yeah. She um is handing out photocopies of her butt at an office Christmas party. That's it. I remember her. I remember her. Yes. Oh, that's so good. Yes, I love it. Um, she actually started her career with theater as well and and also soap operas while she was living in New York. She actually got her SAG card when she did a toilet paper commercial, ironically. But she's not the one with the toilet paper dot. But anyway, that's such an odd thread. I know. So she moved to LA and she actually got the first gig she auditioned for there.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:I know, for a show starring Vicki Lawrence and Lauren Toos called Anything for Love, which is pretty crazy. Like you move to LA and you're like, I'm gonna try it, and then boom. You're like, I'm not gonna get discouraged. I'm just gonna get out there and do it. And they're like, Hello. Here's a job. Yeah, I know. So I have more from her later. Um, I found an interview she did on a blog, and um, and she was really she had a lot of good things to say about her time on this show. Oh, and then one question mark. So we'll get there. Okay but now we are have arrived at Danny's favorite part of everything is random facts.
SPEAKER_00:We need like a like a sound for that. Remember when I had my fun facts, we need a random fact.
SPEAKER_03:I know. Well, on that podcast, I listened to Handsome, uh-huh, which I love so much. If y'all don't listen to it, it's the best and it's hilarious. Um Mae Martin always has like a May fact, like she just is full of like all this like random information. They have a button and it goes Mayfact. I love it because anyway, so you're gonna love this because I found a dog random fact.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So Balkie was originally named Vev V-E-V, but Bronson Pincho came up with the name Balkie after his sister's dog, who stop reading ahead.
SPEAKER_00:I am reading because I'm not a dog. I'm looking. She's reading my notes, don't she?
unknown:Sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Who's dog her his sister's dog was named Balcony, but they called him Balkie.
SPEAKER_01:That was cute.
SPEAKER_03:I like Balkie better than V. I know.
SPEAKER_01:You just picture like a different person with that name.
SPEAKER_03:I know. Balkie fits. I know. I like it. So anyway, named after a dog. And the dog's name was Balcony. That's cute. Why the cute? You know what it made me think of. So when my kids were little, we had an elf. We still have the elf on a shelf. I just don't take it out anymore. Now we have um a snoop on the stoop. So that's anyway. You know how you like name your elf. Yeah. Okay. So my oldest Caden is not, he is incredibly intelligent as a wonderful human, but he's not a super creative kid. Okay. So when we got the elf, I was like, okay, you can name him. And he was little, he was like four, I guess. So you can name him whatever you want, like whatever you want to name him.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god.
SPEAKER_02:And he said, he sat there and he goes, I would like to name him Red Hat because he is wearing a red hat. Oh and I said, Are you sure? And he said, Yes, please write that down.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, take a note. So I wrote it in the book.
SPEAKER_03:Red Hat, and I swear to God. So years later, we got like the reindeer. Remember when they came out with the pets? And by that time, Cooper was around. And I was like, okay, well, Caden named the elf. And the reindeer was cool because you you're allowed to pet him and touch him and stuff. I said, All right, Cooper, you can name the reindeer whatever you want. And and Cooper Caden was like, it has to go with Red Hat. So Cooper, also like three or four little, he goes, I would like to name him Green Snake. Hello? So we have an elf named Red Hat and a reindeer and a green snake. Look, those are probably that's probably the only combination of those names in the whole world.
unknown:I know.
SPEAKER_03:For those two things. That's what I thought of when I saw that they named their dog Balcony. I was like, like because it was it liked to sit on the balcony.
SPEAKER_00:Or like that's the first thing I thought. Or they found it on a balcony. I don't know. Oh my god, that's cute.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So here's a fun Easter egg in the opening credits from season season three through the end of the series, because the other opening credits for one and two were different. I don't know if you noticed that when you rewash it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, because I like the second one better.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So you probably remember Balkie and Larry um riding on a tour boat underneath a bridge. Yes. Okay. They're on the Chicago River. Well, the opening credits of the spin-off series, Family Matters, has the Winslow family riding their bikes over the same bridge.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Love that Easter eye.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's fun.
SPEAKER_03:I know. It's really fun. Okay, so this is another funny little play with words. Uh, in the fall of '93, after the eighth and final season of Perfect Strangers, um, Bronson Pincho starred in the very short-lived sitcom The Trouble with Larry, where he actually portrayed an American named Larry.
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, which is funny because that was who he played opposite for eight seasons.
SPEAKER_01:But it wasn't related to the Balkie story. It was just like a totally different show and concept.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So he was like, oh, cool, now I get to play Larry. I don't know. That is cool. And then um Mark Len Baker, who played an American named Larry on Perfect Strangers, co-starred that same fall in the premiere of a Broadway production of Neil Simon's Laughter on the 23rd Floor, where he played a Russian immigrant. Wow. Isn't that funny? So they kind of swap they kind of swapped and identities relatively quickly after. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's cool. I know. I thought that was pretty funny. Um, Mark Len Baker and Bronson Pinch show are the only cast members to appear in all 150 episodes. Okay. Which we knew.
SPEAKER_00:Makes sense.
SPEAKER_03:Um, however, if the unaired pilot, which had Louie Anderson and not Lynn Baker, um, if that counts, then only Bronson Pinchot was in all episodes. Film them all. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Did the maybe you don't know, but did the pilot episode stay exactly the same when the and they just reshot it?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Lynn Baker?
SPEAKER_03:I tried to find that. I have no idea. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't find it, so I don't know. Um, okay, so now we're back to the leftovers, okay? The HBO series. Um, so the funny thing is it's kind of a throwaway line, but in in the first season, like basically what happens, if I can remember correctly from the book, is the well, the rapture happens. And if you don't know what that is, that's basically this belief that some Christians think is going to happen where everybody who is quote unquote saved gets uh snatched up into heaven, and everybody else that is not saved is left to like deal with the end of days. Did I explain that well? Yeah. Okay. So this talks about everybody who's left, the leftovers. The one's still underway, there's like a throwaway line that uh about what about figuring out who got taken and who did not, and it they say something about the entire cast of perfect strangers was raptured. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They all went to heaven, yeah. But later on in season um two and three, Marklyn Baker has a guest role where he is playing a fictionalized version of himself, and he actually says that he faked his own disappearance and he was living in Mexico.
SPEAKER_01:So everyone from Perfect Strangers was raptured, but he was just hiding out in New Mexico.
SPEAKER_03:So he he was the only one not.
SPEAKER_00:That's really funny. Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm like, I've got to watch this show because it sounds hilarious. And I don't remember the book well enough because it's it's it's a good few years old, like way back. But anyway. Um, so when they were filming the show and they were doing like had a live studio audience, after a taping, um, Markland Baker and Bronson Pincha would um let the audience give them questions. They would do like a QA, and in many, many cases, somebody would ask them to do the dance of joy. Yeah. Because that was like a thing. Yeah. Yes. Um, and they'd usually do it if they got asked.
SPEAKER_00:As soon as I saw that, you remembered? I was like, oh, the dance of joy. That's a thing. Like this is going to remain. Yes. One thing I forgot though, um, was the girlfriend. I didn't forget the girlfriend. Really?
SPEAKER_01:I didn't forget them, but like they came into that one episode and I was like, oh, that's cute.
SPEAKER_03:And then, like, you know, we were skipping through seasons. I was like, oh, they're still here. I did not realize they, I or I forgot that they were there the whole basically the whole series. I don't know if they were supposed to be there the whole time. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I like them a lot. Yeah. I don't know if they were like wow, they're still here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know if that was intended for them to have such a big but they did. But they did so anyway. Yeah. Um, okay, so now here's the controversy. Controversy. Controversy. The controversy, which I said I couldn't find too much because we're gonna talk about it. Um remember I told you about Rebecca Arthur, and she said uh had an interview. Okay, she had she gave an interview, um, which was actually really fun. There was somebody out there who had a blog back in blog, it was when blogs were big and all the things, devoted to re-watching Perfect Strangers and that, and like it's one of the first hits you get on Google when you type it in. Okay. Um, well, she actually found it so and and found it like in her whatever and contacted the guy and said she would do an interview with him for his blog. That's awesome. Yeah. So in 2020, she did an interview with him, um, and she had lots of positive things to say about her castmates, except notably she didn't have a lot of nice things to say or much to say about Bronson Pinchot. So here's what she said. Here's his his quote. Okay, here's her quote. My bad. If you have wondered why I haven't said anything about Bronson, it's because I adhere to the old adage that if you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all. Ooh, yeah. But the truth is there are some nice things I can say about him. He was a true Jekyll and Hyde. In the beginning, he was so sweet and fun to work with, but as we got further into the success of the show, he morphed into a monster. I was the one member of the cast that seemed to draw his wrath. It was quite the paradox, living my dream, of being on a sitcom, but subjected to being sexually assaulted by him regularly. Wait, what? At the time, I don't I think she means like harassed or assaulted? I think she means like like touching a little too much and hugging a little too much. I mean, because that is cons that is sexual assault. Okay. Yes. Um, I I didn't she didn't go into detail about it. Um at the time, there was nothing I or anyone else could do about it. He held all the cards.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god. So it went from I'm not gonna really say anything to like, what?
SPEAKER_03:Damn. Did any did anyone anywhere have a response to this? Not that I found, I'm sure I didn't dig too deep because I was like, oh um, that's the only interview I found with her. Like that, and and other people referenced that interview in a lot of things. Right. So yeah. Oh my gosh. Yikes that's scary. So there you go. That's a controversy. And I feel like it brings up so many questions to which there aren't answers out there. It sounds like. Well, I mean, there probably are, but yeah. I the thing is that sucks. Is I feel like men in power, once men get power, a lot of times they just can't they they get consumed with that. I'm not excusing this at all. I'm just saying this is what happens and it's disgusting.
SPEAKER_00:It's what it's what it sounds like. Because essentially she's saying he was like, whatever at the beginning.
SPEAKER_01:It seems like he started it, it seems like as an outsider looking at this and hearing what she's saying, that maybe he started um very grateful for the opportunity and stuff, and as time went by, realized like they need me for this, and so I hold the cards. And he really did, because you could, I wouldn't want to replace Mark Lynn Baker, but you could.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it'd be really hard to replace Bronson Pinchot and have the same show.
SPEAKER_03:Well, we have to remember the time we were in. Um and even now, women are scared to speak up. Oh, absolutely. Because what happens is the women get ostracized, yeah, and the men barely get scolded, and this is facts. I don't even care. Y'all can say what you want, but it is truth. I've seen it recently myself. Um women will say something and they're and they're not believed fully, right? Or they'll they'll get asked the the question, Did you do anything to lead that behavior on? Yeah. Also have heard that recently. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's it's still very prevalent, and probably and she probably the fact that she's able to speak about it now, you know, it's so much later.
SPEAKER_00:She's older, she's removed them from the situation, and times have changed some, to your point, not as much as they should.
SPEAKER_03:She probably didn't feel like she could say anything then, but maybe feels like now she can. Right. And now she's removed from the danger of the situation. Correct. Like you can't speak about it when you're in the middle of your feeling on contract and you're at work. You can, but then that's terrifying. Right. You totally can and should be totally. And you should actually, but it's a role, it's it's understandable why you wouldn't. And we have to remember too that back then in the 80s and 90s, there weren't a lot of like resources for you, which if you were there was no there wasn't a lot of like um sexual harassment training or you know, PR, like not PR, HR stuff. Uh there usually wasn't even like a person you could go tell right um who was supposed to handle all those type of situations. But anyway, so I was gonna dig dig deeper into this and see if he had other like on other sets had more stuff, but I ran out of time.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So that's gonna guess yes. I mean I'm sure he's ever talked about it, but I'm sure I I just I didn't have time to like go and research all up into that, but I was like, we at least need to go and address that one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I believe her because we believe women on this show.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_03:Um, so speaking of problematic, let's talk about if we personally think the portrayal of Balkie is problematic. He's just so likable, and that's maybe that's the issue. Like is he being a stereotype for my entertainment value? That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00:And that feels icky if that's the case. Right. But I never, I never, like when I was re-watching these, and obviously when I was much younger watching them originally, I never thought he was like stupid or weird or anything.
SPEAKER_03:I always thought he was funny and like someone I would want to be friends with, like he was always a lovable character.
SPEAKER_00:So I guess those are two different things, maybe, but I would be interested, and like my perspective is an American-born citizen, middle class my whole life, right? White woman. Right.
SPEAKER_01:So I would be interested in the opinion of someone who is an immigrant or has parents who are immigrants or have has had to deal with stereotypes or people assuming things about you their whole life if they watch it and what they think.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Because that's the thing I was I was trying, because I think it's good to revisit what cultural like appropriation kind of is, and that's where you just pick and choose piece pieces of somebody else's culture for entertainment value. Right. Which is kind of what happened. But it's it's I think it's weird because I think it's I think it's very important to think about it when you go back to re-watch this show, and I don't I don't feel like they were making fun of him in his culture either most of the time, but there definitely were times where they were. Like anything about the goats or the sheep was always meant to kind of be belittle belittle it.
SPEAKER_00:Belittle it that was like an important thing in his culture, and it's like, well, the goats or blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_03:It's like, well, okay, yeah, what so I don't know. So so I I talked about this in my house with my husband and my son, and we talked about it. And you know, sometimes they're like, you can just you overthink stuff, and I'm like, well, but it's important to recognize because they are like, but it's a made-up country, it's a made-up country. I'm like, well, it is, but it's a it is a real life representation of Mediterranean Island people, yes, even though the country's fictional, it's still so like I think they were just trying to CYA by saying, Well, let's just make up the country, but they're still at least they did do that. I I was just thinking, like, you mentioned Morkin Mindy earlier, and then I'm thinking of like elf.
SPEAKER_00:Obviously, they're from other planets, but it's that same idea, Katie. Now listen, listen, before everyone comes for me. It's that same fish out of water. I where I come from, things are done differently. And so, therefore, part of the joke about them is that they don't quite do things the same as us, and you're laughing at why they would do something a certain way. So it makes me kind of think of Valkyrie.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, I'm just gonna stop. The look she's giving me, I'm done. I was just gonna say something really smart ass, but I'm not going to. You should. But uh no, I'll save it because it'll come later. Okay. I don't know. I I think it's um I think it's up for debate. I think it could go either way, to be honest. Yeah. I tried to keep that lens on of seeing where it landed the whole time I watched it. And I didn't feel like the episodes we watched were hugely problematic. I didn't either. But that doesn't mean that there weren't other ones in eight seasons that were.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm curious, I don't remember this from the original re watching of it, if there were ever any where other people made fun of him and like Larry had to come to his you do what I mean? Like like was were there any episodes where he was kind of discriminated against? And was that a like a thing they were trying to make a statement about? And unless I watch the whole series again, or maybe Googled that.
SPEAKER_03:I won't know. Well, but even Googling, I think because you I think you could make I think you could make a case either way. Yeah. I think so too. Which is pretty much you know, when we re-watch these shows, we're like, is it nostalgic or problematic? Most of the time it's 50-50.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I wouldn't I don't even think this one's 50-50. No, I don't think it's more less on the problematic side. But if someone were to say to me, I'm offended by this show because of X, Y, and Z, I would be like, Okay, I can see that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, for sure. And I thought when I was Googling, I I was thinking there'd be more like statement pieces about it, but maybe because it's such an older show. Maybe. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. I if y'all know of any, send them our way. I'd love to listen. And we we want to know what you think too, because I would, especially if you are not an American-born citizen, um, and you you have that perspective of being someone from another country who who who has come here to live or even visit. Because I know there are people in other countries who listen to our to our show. There's like two.
SPEAKER_00:There's a decent amount. It's 30 different countries from.
SPEAKER_03:Well, let us know what you think. And uh we really like we really do want to know because I think it's kind of a gray area. Um, and I did have a friend tell me one time, if you aren't sure if something's problematic, it probably is.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I don't know. I like I can't figure out if because we've seen so many things and we have had our eyes open so much over these last two years. Yeah. Like, remember when we watched Can't Hardly Wait, and I didn't think it was gonna be problematic, and then I watched it and I was like, oh my god. Yeah. Right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That I that I'm also like, are we looking for that? Which isn't a bad thing to go with it with that lens, but I'm not gonna like in my own brain make up problematic reasons either. You know what I mean? But if someone, but that's what I mean. If someone gave me something specific and was like, this is this because of this, I would I wouldn't fight them on that.
SPEAKER_03:I'd be like, oh yeah, okay. Well, I think that's why it's good when we re-watch stuff to look at it to almost be hyper-aware because nobody was back then. Right, that's true. You know what I mean? That's the responsibility of doing this, yeah, yeah. And I think that's good to say, hey, we can look back and say, we've learned to not do this, and that was kind of shitty, so let's not be shitty moving forward. Anyway, I agree. Okay, so so is it's kind of a yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. What's the answer? I've been doing this a lot today.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03:So let's chat just a little bit about the episodes that we watched. We had a lot now. Where did you watch them? What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00:Where did I watch them?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't mean like in a chair or something. I mean like where did you stream? Oh, sorry, YouTube. Okay, so you did not pay for these. I did. I paid for them on YouTube. Katie, you can watch I said you can watch them for free on Tubi.
SPEAKER_00:I like YouTube.
SPEAKER_03:Katie, how much you wasted like$10.$12. Katie!
SPEAKER_00:I didn't waste it. This is$12 for entertainment.
SPEAKER_03:Free. FYI. I did not know. Okay, listen, moving forward. I did not know about Tubi, by the way. Did you know about Tubi? I've heard of it. I've never used it though. It's just an app that you can watch stuff, but it's free. Now they it did have ads.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but I mean that's whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Um it almost, I I have to say, the ads kind of almost made it feel like I was watching it in real time again. Oh wow. It didn't have that many commercials, but still like that idea of like where it's supposed to go to commercial break, there would be an ad. Like just there was like there was like a some ads before it starts, and then like a couple in the middle, and that was it. And they're new ads. Oh, yeah. Watching like the original. That would be fun. That'd be fun. That'd be so fun. But uh anyway, everybody out there is probably like, oh my god, Danny Tubi's been around forever. But listen, we didn't know I've heard of it, I've just never watched anything on there. If you ever have to watch something older, go look there first because it's free. Okay, so you don't pay for nothing, Katie. Like, listen, I I'm like, Katie is like, I'm gonna pay for this. I I will not. In fact, today, all right, we were gonna wear these um these podcast shirts we got from Buzz Sprout, who hosts our thing.
SPEAKER_01:We love Buzz Sprout.
SPEAKER_03:Katie couldn't find hers, which is fine. Honestly, I'm not quite sure where mine was either, but you couldn't find yours, so it didn't matter. Um, and I was like, that's all right, let's just wear our green podcast shirts. And she's like, You hate the green. And she does true, I do. I hate it. I don't look good in this color. And I said, Yes, but I hate not using things we've bought even more. It's true. I really hate wasting things, and I'm not a big like one use t-shirt person. I was years ago, like I would get like theme shirts for everything. Now, if I have one, it's gotta be worn many times, or I'm going to the thrift store and reusing something. That's what's happening. So, to be free, okay, to be use it. I'm not gonna pay for something I don't have to pay for. That's totally fair. It's just easier. No, it's not, it's not your easier to be.
SPEAKER_00:It's so easy. You just download it. And I just watched it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, it's not. I'm gonna tell your husband so you can save$12.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, you tell me.
SPEAKER_03:And he'll get onto you and say, Katie, use the tubi. He will. All right, let me find that's Dawson's. Hold on. Uh-oh. All right, so yeah, so the first episode we watched The Pilots. Yes. Season one, episode one's called Knock Knock, Who's There? Knock, Knock, Who's There. So I thought it was a good intro episode. I did too. And you know what I remembered as soon as it started. I, as a little child in the 80s, had the biggest crush on Balkie. What? Really? I 100% because I love funny people.
SPEAKER_01:I get that.
SPEAKER_03:And he's good looking. He's good looking.
SPEAKER_01:He's tall.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Not like I care. I'm short. Anybody's taller than me. But I had the biggest crush on him. I thought he was so funny and so cute.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think I had a crush on him, but I could see. Did you have a crush on Larry? Probably.
SPEAKER_03:Probably. I mean, okay. Who knows?
SPEAKER_00:Who knows?
SPEAKER_03:Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Um, I said I like how sweet Larry is to Balkie. Like I said that earlier too. Like, it is funny when he's like, and then when the part where he's like, I had eight siblings, he's like, This is my bachelor pad. Want a beer?
SPEAKER_03:So cute. I I also like his apartment. Yeah, it was cute. I also forgot Valkie's line. Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. I know.
SPEAKER_00:I forgot until I heard it. And I was like, oh, we're gonna keep hearing that.
SPEAKER_03:Of course I have to. I that's like a vampire. I I can't do Valkyrie. I can't do it. That is a good line, though. And I just I watching that first episode reminded me what a great comedic actor he is. Yeah, he really is. Now listen, we are separating this character from real life where he's a problem.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. We're gonna have to to get through this.
SPEAKER_03:I know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and uh we can say this about so many things. You have to separate the art from the artist a lot of times. And I know some people won't, and that is perfectly okay. But uh we have to on our show. Yeah, for this conversation, and I will say in real life, there are there are people I will just be like, fuck no, I am writing you off forever. And then sometimes, like I'm a hypocrite, I'm gonna say, and then other times I'll be like, I have to, like, I am I'm always gonna love Harry Potter. JK Rowling is trash, she's a trash human, but I love that world she created. Yeah, and I won't say goodbye to it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, that's fair, that's your choice, too, you know.
SPEAKER_03:I know that's what I'm saying, but I understand why you would want to, and I don't support her like views. I try to like if I buy Harry Potter stuff, it's only at Universal because she don't get a cut of that. Oh, she doesn't? No. And then if books and stuff, I buy used ones. Yeah. So she also wouldn't get a cut of she doesn't get another cut. Another one. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Anyway, that's how I validate my I love it. My hippocopy. Your hypococrisy. Hippocracy. Hippocrisy. I love it. Okay. Um, so yeah, so this is right. This is your normal pilot wherever all the premises set for everything. He shows up, it was good. He comes in, they work together. It was good. Yeah, then season two, uh episode three, we watch next. In season one, yeah. First date. Okay, so this is where the girls come in. The girls come in, yes. Well, they really did just like show up right away. Isn't this the one? Uh no, no, they come in on season two. Season two. This is where he goes on a date with that lady he meets at the singles bar. That's right. Which cracked me up. Okay, but the first scene where they're in the store and he like talks to that lady and she had that hair. Do you remember the swoops on the side of your head? Yes. Where you would like hold out your hair and hairspray it so you had like these wings and then you had like these bangs. That is crazy looking. It's so crazy. And then the back of your head is just flat. It's just flat. Yeah, it's only going on at the crazy. I loved, I liked, I noticed a lot of, you know, because I grew up in the Chicago area.
SPEAKER_00:So, like in that first scene, they've got bear Chicago Bears t-shirts. But I'm remembering like when people wore those shirts, you know? And then when they're in the singles bar later, there's like a Cub sign. And I was just like, oh my gosh, this is so fun. And then um, Larry makes that comment about Ed McMahon. Okay. He's like, Oh, it's another letter from Ed McMahon.
SPEAKER_03:I guess I should write him back. Uh-huh. I was like, Oh, that's great. Publisher's Clearing House. I would always, as a kid, I knew my mom would throw it away and I would always send it in. You know how you had to like I would too. Yeah, you always had to send in back the thing. I and man. They used to get you with them commercials where they would knock on people's door. Yes, and they have the balloons and the giant check. Which obviously they now I know that that was stage and they of course. Of course, those people were never happy enough. The reason we watched this episode is because this is the first time we see the dance of joy. Yes, that's what I was gonna say. And I just said, I forgot about the dance of joy. Yeah, and I said, I am Larry not wanting to have fun, and I am Balkie doing making you dance wherever, wherever. Listen, I don't care. You know what it is? You're not a stick in the mud, you're not. You just you're not, you have a lot on your brain, a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I do think sometimes I just I just don't have time for joy.
SPEAKER_03:Damn, that's the saddest thing. I know, you know what though? I think I think the thing with Balkie that I relate to is that I just I don't really get embarrassed. Yeah. And I he doesn't. And I like he's just like, I want to dance, I'm gonna dance. Like, and I am that person. I am never like it's like at a party. If I'm hungry and nobody else is eating, I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna go on in there. Yeah, or if nobody's dancing, I'll be the first one. I have no problem with that. And because who cares?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, who cares? You're right about that.
SPEAKER_03:Like, I mean, who cares? And but I haven't always been that way. I mean, a l most of my life, but like to the extreme that you are now, maybe not. Right. She's like, because hey, girl, sometimes girl, sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, yeah, and I I don't think I get embarrassed by much anymore either. I think it's just an energy thing for me.
SPEAKER_03:I just sometimes am just like and that's okay. And neither way is right or wrong, peeps. Let me just say it just is, it just is. And I think you will hold on a second. You will all this is what it is, and this is a compliment to you and an insult to myself.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:You will take the time to think things through. I won't.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, like, let me think if I'm like you'll be like a sense of joy.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, do I wanna like, do I wanna get up and dance? Well, what's gonna happen to our stuff that we're leaving here on the table? Like, you know, you are smart and like you will think things through and be like, yes, let's do that. Um and that's a good quality.
SPEAKER_00:I am but then but then when I have a chance to think about it, it does take a lot of spontaneity, which can bring you a lot of joy. Out of things.
unknown:Right?
SPEAKER_00:Because if I then if I think about it, oh, do I want to get up and dance? Oh, what about my purse? What about my drink? What about whatever? Then I'm just not going to get up and dance.
SPEAKER_03:But I think you do sometimes. You danced at the um what do we go to? I don't know. At the at the charity drag thing. Yeah, I did dance at that. We were dancing. I was the first one up. Sarah was second. You were third. I followed that. See? You were third. And we had some people that were with us that chose not to dance.
SPEAKER_01:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:See, you weren't one of them. No.
SPEAKER_01:You're right.
SPEAKER_03:You weren't one of them. Okay, that's a good example. Thank you. I feel better.
SPEAKER_01:I feel better.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, but that's not that's what I mean. It's not a bad thing. Right. And also, I'm not a spontaneous person. Like, I'm not. Like that to me, getting up and dancing is not spontaneous. Because you're somewhere where you you deliberately went that could have dancing. Right. Like, I am not like, let's go to on a vacation right now. Like, that's not me. No. Like, I am not a spontaneous person. But like they were at a they were at a bar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And there's music playing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
unknown:Totally.
SPEAKER_01:Hello. Dancing, dance and joy.
SPEAKER_03:But so anyway, don't feel bad that if you're you can be a Larry and I can be a Balkie. Because listen, okay. Both things are good and bad in their own ways. All right. So season two, episode two is hunks like us. That's the one. This is where we watched this one because this was the intro for Jennifer and Marianne. And first of all, the term hunk.
SPEAKER_00:I come on.
SPEAKER_03:Can I tell you a funny story that came about when this episode title, when I was in high school, I was in the girl version of Key Club, which was called Key Winettes.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:And it was a service organization, but we basically acted like a sorority. Okay. It was fun. But our biggest fundraiser of the year, this is so stupid. I cannot believe this would never happen nowadays. We had a male beauty pageant that we called Hunk. And they and it was mostly silly stuff. Yeah. But they had an evening wear competition. They had a talent competition. They had, I can't remember the rest. We would do questions, but it was a male, it wasn't really a male beauty pageant. It was just a male competition. But it was only males. I mean, at the time there were women. I know. But can you it was a school event and it was passed every year? That's wild. Can you believe that? No. I love it though. Bring it back. Just kidding. Don't don't bring it back. I just anyway. Hunk. That's what I think of every time I hear the word hunk. I just had pictures of it. I wish I had pictures of it. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Um, okay, so I just said, is this set just the full house gyms? I know. It may have been.
SPEAKER_03:I think I I think it was I it may have. Probably the just the it was probably the same soundstage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I did put um the diet culture 80s BS was rampant, especially the name of the gym was Perfect Body Health Club.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What? Also, so much toxic masculinity in this show. Oh, big time. So much. So this whole show, I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And Valkyrie uses the term cone head the barbarian. I loved that. That was so funny.
SPEAKER_03:Also, like the physical comedy. I love watching good physical comedy. Golly. I love watching it and I love performing it. It's so much fun. And I think I like to watch it because I also like to perform it. Because you have to be like on so many levels aware of what you're doing, especially when you're working with someone. And they that's what those two actors do so good. So well. Like they're on the weights, and he kept getting pulled up and then you push them down. And then you get pulled up and then you get to push them down. I loved it.
SPEAKER_00:And then when they were sore later, and they were trying to get up.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Yeah. And then they're trying to walk. The funny thing to me though was when they fell asleep for that nap. Yeah. And they wake up and they're like, ow. And it's like, you remember that? Like you come home and you feel so good. And then because I mean, scientifically, what that is is delayed onset muscle soreness. It usually takes not that fast, but it usually takes 24 to 48 hours for it to fully set in. And we've all been there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:For whatever it was. And you just open your eyes, you're like, oh my God. Oh my God. What happened to me? Or you go to pee and you go to sit down, you're like, oh, I can't sit. That's the worst when you can't sit down on the table. I know. I know my name. That that also is the first sign, as you saw in the episode, that you worked way too hard. You did too much. Yeah. Too much. Too much too fast. So funny. Yeah, that was really funny.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I said the soreness after the nap. And then I mean, you you said the thing about the toxic mascul masculinity, but then the ladies are the ones that are like, we don't care about that.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Like, we just like you guys. Right. We don't care that you're at the gym or whatever. Although, wasn't Jennifer the one selling the memberships? So, like, what? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But but I thought it was cute. I thought the girls were cute. But it was very of the times. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, very, very.
SPEAKER_03:It was very of the times.
SPEAKER_00:At least there were no teenage girls involved in this. That made it a little less annoying, but it was still annoying.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. And there was there was enough comedy there. But okay, so then we had to throw in a Christmas episode. So fun. Um, this was season two, episode 11. This is one of the most beloved Christmas episodes of the series, so that's why we watched this one. Ah, okay. Okay, yeah. Because I was thinking they probably had a few Christmas episodes, not many. But this is one that people really liked a lot. And you could see why. It was very like nostalgic. Um, it's it was called a Christmas story. Um, I love how Larry was calling the airport to check on his phone.
SPEAKER_00:I said that too. I said calling the airport to check on flight, and and he it just rings and someone picks up. Right. He's like, hello, I need to check on this flight to Madison or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Which, first of all, Madison, Wisconsin is not very far from Chicago. Like, I'm oh, it's not? No. I don't know why they were flying in the first place. But then they couldn't drive anyway because the roads were all like snowed over. But yeah, I I thought that was funny. I was like, you can't even like do that now. Like so, how far is it? A couple hours at the most. Oh, really? Yeah. See, I have no sense of geography awareness.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I'm like, that's like Chicago's almost at the very top of Illinois.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03:And Wisconsin is like above that. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So, I mean, Wisconsin's a big state, right?
SPEAKER_03:But it's it's not that far. Never been to either one of those states. I don't know why you would fly there. Cause I just don't know why you would.
SPEAKER_00:Well, but it made it a good episode, I guess. And yes, and I thought it was really I just said Christmas in Chicago is magical.
SPEAKER_03:Like it was so snowy, but like when they were showing all the big skyscrapers and all the snow coming down, I was like, Oh, it's so pretty. See, I'm not, I guess because I grew up without snow on Christmas, like everybody's like, oh, it's so nostalgic. For me, I you're like, I and I don't like being cold. Yeah. So everybody let it's funny. And I remember as a kid, I think we talked about this before. It was always funny to me that every Christmas song was about snow.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Like I was like never had snow on Christmas until I didn't live in the South anymore, which I was a full ass grown lady. But uh, so I just don't have like for me, Christmas is is a lot other is many other things. It doesn't have to do with the weather. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. But I get it, I get it. If you grew up somewhere where that was part of the And like Michigan being frozen over, it's just like a feeling. Yeah, you know, yeah, because for you that does bring back like really literally is what I would see. Yeah, right, right. I I did say that Larry was being selfish and good for Balkie for calling him out.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because Balkie went home and did all that stuff, which where the fuck did he get all that shit? And made him a five seconds. And yeah, like yeah, and the tree, I loved it, like the Charlie Brown looking tree that they ended up with. But I'm glad Balkie was like, what about me? Like, I know you're sad, but hello, I'm not even in my home country, right? Like this is my first Christmas, not with not with even my literal family. And yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and Larry was being so and I think Larry was there was a line or two where he was referring to him as like acting like a child or something, yeah. He would act like a child.
SPEAKER_01:He'd be like, But I want cookies for Santa or whatever, you know.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, okay. Like they played that pretty well. They did that. He was being selfish. And, you know, just the message that like Christmas can be anywhere and with anyone and on any level budget, you can have the Christmas spirit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I loved the line where he was like, Balkie, do you know what? It's the Christmas feeling, it's back. And I was like, oh that was really cute. And you know what? I think, I think too, you know, uh being in the military life for so long as a military family, that was something I hope that we instilled in our kids too, not just with Christmas, but like home is where the feeling is. Totally. Christmas is a feeling. So as long as you're with your people or a version of your like, you know, they're together, they're family, they're together, and that's you have that feeling of togetherness or whatever. And then another episode with a blanket, Katie. I know. I said a Christmas blanket. They're getting me with these blankets. I can know. I know. Are we gonna have what if we have a blanket in every series we read? What if that's the thread? That would be crazy. I don't know if there was one for full house.
SPEAKER_00:Was there? We'll think about it. Wait, because there was one for Family Matters, the quilt.
SPEAKER_03:I thought there was no, maybe not, maybe not. Well, whatever. Review. All right. All right, season four, episode 13. Yeah, this was called Games People Play. Loved it. Faint game show. So good. So good.
SPEAKER_01:It was it was basically like Double Dare.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. I wanted to be on that show so bad. Me too. Every kid. And Balkie was us. Balkie was like, Oh, I know we're gonna do the stunts and we're gonna do the whatever.
SPEAKER_00:And Larry's like, nope, we're getting in, we're getting out, we're answering the questions, we're gonna do it. We're getting our money. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Balkie is like every kid who ever watched Double Dare in their whole life. But also, I would be really bad at any stunt because I am not athletically gifted. You'd probably be good because you can at least throw a ball. I cannot. Uh, have you ever seen me throw a ball? I'm just putting that on you and I believe that about you. I can throw a ball. See, I see, I knew that. I have not seen you throw one, but I guarantee you you'd be better than me. Like, it is outlandish how unathletic I am, and it throws people because I'm not uncoordinated.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not uncoordinated. Let me and I and I'm strong, I am physically fit and strong, but guys, that does not equal sports qualities. Right, right. No, that's true. I am coordinated, I can dance mid-level, but I cannot. I can't throw a ball for the life of me. I cannot. What else? What's some other I just think of ball throwing, hitting can't swing a bat for the life of me. Can't, I can't. It I am literally terrible. Volleyball, forget it.
SPEAKER_01:I love volleyball. Out of here. That's one of my favorites.
SPEAKER_03:Well, see, I'm tall though. Listen, I was made to be on the sidelines, and that is perfectly okay with me. Totally fine.
SPEAKER_00:So you would you would have wanted the questions, not the stunts on the game show.
SPEAKER_03:No, no. I well, stunts are different, but I would have been terrible.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:I would have loved to do those stupid things.
SPEAKER_00:I know.
SPEAKER_03:I loved the the toilet um the commode transport.
SPEAKER_00:I go just from station to station on this toilet on wheels. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:I love I love a fake game show. And I loved the real ones in this time period because they were all like this. And this was the first time, at least the first episode we rewatched where they worked at the newspaper. Oh yeah, and Harriet was on the audience. Yep, and Harriet was in the audience.
SPEAKER_00:She won the ladies from the office, and the car they could have won, but Larry messed it up. I know had a cell phone and a CD player.
SPEAKER_04:Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:And the car itself was pretty nice. And it was a Porsche, wasn't it? Some I think so. Or something. Or maybe I just some kind of sports car.
SPEAKER_03:But I bet you they cracked up laughing so hard while rehearsing for this.
SPEAKER_00:This they had to.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know how they kept it together.
SPEAKER_00:It was so funny. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:And when they stuck their faces in the chocolate pudding, was it pudding or something?
SPEAKER_00:I think it was pudding, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Trying to get a banana. What? It was so funny. It was so funny. I was cracking up. Okay, so pause. You told me Brandt liked this show. He did. But he doesn't like slapstick.
SPEAKER_01:He liked the show. I am amazed.
SPEAKER_00:I was finishing the last two episodes this morning and he was up doing stuff and I had headphones on, but he was he kept walking by and kind of like looking.
SPEAKER_03:Please ask him.
SPEAKER_00:Are you guys doing that one today? And I'm like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I want you to ask him. Report back to us.
SPEAKER_00:Well, look, I paid for him on YouTube. I can have him watch them with me. Then we get two uses out of it, Danny.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, just ask him why he liked that show, but he doesn't like slapstick. Because he didn't like Three's Company. No. But that's so much physical comedy. And this is even more, I think. Yeah. I don't know. I'll have to ask him. Ask him. I'll ask him. I want to know what the difference. Because there's so much physical comedy in this show in every episode. Every episode. Okay, I ask him. Okay, I'll find out. Y'all are gonna find out. I want to know what it was. What was the poll? Okay, so we just have a few more. Um, season five, episode 18, Blast from the Past. The reason we watched this one is because it references back to another episode. It was like a throwback episode.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. B yes, because the guy had came in with a bomb to the new. I just put such a 90s plot line. I know, so outlandish.
SPEAKER_03:I put, I wasn't really a fan of this plot.
SPEAKER_00:I it wasn't my favorite. It wasn't my favorite. And it's like a mistaken identities plot, but then like Valkyrie invites this guy who almost blew them up over for dinner because he's not like he's well now, but then the guy reveals that he thinks he's being followed by the mob enforcers for the mob. And so now their phone lines cut, and it was just it was too much for me.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't a fan of this one.
SPEAKER_03:The sticks of dynamite. Yeah. I love that they uh sticks of dynamite show up in the 80s and 90s a lot. A lot. Like they're just like a normal thing. Have you ever seen a stick of dynamite? In person? No. Yeah, neither.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, to be fair, I've never seen any kind of bomb in person. I mean, it's not like every bomb except dynamite. That's so fake. Is dynamite a bomb? No, it's an explosive.
SPEAKER_03:Bombs are explosives.
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Why are you asking me? I'm just curious. Yeah, it's an explosive.
SPEAKER_03:It's because I I was just curious. I mean, I've never seen a stick of dynamite either. I'm just saying, in the 80s and 90s, there was lots of sticks of dynamite. Lots of sticks of dynamite in shows, in in uh movies, and cartoons. Was it the dynamite in speed? Or was that a different kind of bomb?
unknown:I don't know. I don't know, it's there.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, and it's like strapped to his chest. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Wasn't a fan of that one. I would love that one. That would be good. But we did we did that one because it was a flashback episode. Yeah, yeah. So that's why. Yeah. Um, and now we have arrived at the final episode in season eight. I put episode 36 when I sent it to Katie. And she was like, Um, I think you mean six.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, it kept showing me six, like episode six. And then I thought then I thought it was YouTube's problem. Uh-huh. Then I Googled, I said, what what was the very last episode of Perfect Strangers? And it said season eight, episode six. And I was like, oh, that must have just been like her finger slip. And then because when I saw 36, I was like, man, they'd be like stacking these things. I know. I don't even know this episode. Come on. Anyway. Oh well. So anyways, episode six, up and away, part two. So there was a part one, and the part one they sort of summarized at the beginning.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't have us watch the other one because they summarized it so well. They really did. So whatever.
SPEAKER_00:And basically the two women, Mary Ann and Jennifer, like everyone's married now. Um, Balkie and Mary Ann and Larry and Jennifer. And the women are both pregnant at the same time. And Balkie's baby is born, I guess in part one. I don't know if they're married. Well, Larry calls Jennifer his wife. Okay. But I don't know if it's a big one. Well, then because I thought the same thing. I was like, oh, they did they have like a wedding episode? You know, obviously we're skipping around. And then he says something about my my wife. Okay, well, there we go. But I don't know if Balkie and Marianne are, but probably they have their baby in the part one, and then Jennifer wants to know how because she's overdue and she's trying to have a baby, and they had apparently gone they've gone up in a hot air balloon.
SPEAKER_03:It was like at a fair or something. Look, I know you're about to pop a kid out, you're gonna go up in a hot air balloon. No ma'am. No, it was so funny. I was laughing so hard because it's so preposterous how they depict pregnancy in sitcoms. Yes, and it I don't even care who the writers are, it doesn't matter, it's so silly, it's so silly, and yeah, so she basically ends up having their baby in a hot air balloon while Balkie and Larry are hanging on for dear life on the spot upside down, and like the Air Force saves them or a news guy. As a news guy, yeah, okay. Here's my thing though. So Family Matters last episodes were crazy, crazy, and we did not like them, they were so stupid. I didn't mind this one as much. It was stupid, but the reason why is because I felt like it was outlandish, but it still kind of stuck with the same vibe as the beginning of the show. True. I feel like it didn't like Family Matters had taken such a huge leap.
SPEAKER_01:True.
SPEAKER_03:And and they made so much of the finale of Family Matters serious.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And this was not serious.
SPEAKER_01:This was not serious. This was silly.
SPEAKER_03:I know. Serious things were happening, but the vibe was silly, and it stayed true. Like they were doing the dance of joy dangling from they were like moving their feet around. I could I can't. I mean, it yeah, the the premise was kind of out there, but it was cute. And then they had all the flashbacks at the end. Oh, I loved that. They did a good job with that.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, that was really good. Oh, yeah, because in the flashbacks, they showed um Balkie's wedding in one of them and Larry's in one of them. Look at you remembering the girls like in their little wedding dresses and stuff. Because Larry, for some reason, was in jail. Did you see that part? Oh, yeah. Then she gave him a kiss. Yeah. Which that was a full house um premise, too. Jesse was in jail the day him and Rebecca got married. That's right. Getting lost in the air and being in jail on your wedding day. Those are things.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so I have to say, you have redeemed yourself for forgetting to watch two things our past.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't forget any. And do you know that picture I sent you? I printed, you sent me a graphic of what show what episodes we're watching. I printed it out and I checked them off as I went. And that's how I knew when I got to that one something was wrong because I was like 36. I love it. You redeemed yourself. I did them all.
SPEAKER_03:She did not forget a thing.
SPEAKER_00:Not a thing.
SPEAKER_03:Not a thing.
SPEAKER_00:I'm even telling you things that I didn't even write in my notes.
SPEAKER_03:I know, and you even remembered other things that I did not catch. Yeah. I look at that. I enjoyed this rewatch.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I didn't. This was a fun one. It was a fun one. And I think it's because I was even younger than some of like the Family Matters and Full House when I would have seen these. And I I think I'm sure I watched more before this, but I think it's one of the first sitcoms I remember watching. Like regularly. Me too, probably. And so there's like that component. And a lot of it did hold up for me. I thought it was still funny. I know. I like the characters. I the Chicago connection was cool.
SPEAKER_03:Like I I really enjoyed it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, this was a good one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was a good one. I mean, question mark on if it's problematic. Yep. That's a question mark. That is a question mark still. Um, obviously, we have real life problematic things floating around as well. But the show as a standalone, what is your stars?
SPEAKER_00:I'd probably give it. Four and a half.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And the only reason I don't have the other half is because I'm wondering if it's problematic and that's just hanging in the back of my head.
SPEAKER_03:I think I'm just gonna give it four for that reason. Okay, that's fair. Because I can't give it a full five and good conscience and not have the answer to that. But I did enjoy it. I had I had fun watching it. Um, from I I enjoyed every episode, even the last one. I did too.
SPEAKER_01:Like it was silly, but I liked it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, with Family Matters, I I I kind of waned as it got moved on and got kind of weird with the Urkel stuff. But um this one, and obviously we know how I felt about Full House.
SPEAKER_00:But this one, it was quality. Best so far, I think. Best so far. And so um the next one, we're gonna do a step-by-step. Yes. So I'll send you those episodes here in the next day or two. I haven't picked them out yet, but I have some time this afternoon. I'll do it. And um, and then potentially what did we say? Maybe probably Boy Meets Meets World, and I don't mind researching that one. Maybe Mr. Belvedere, go back again.
SPEAKER_03:Let's see. We might, I mean, I don't know how many we want to do. Me either. So for sure, step by step. For sure, step by step, and then probably Boy Meets World, because I've never really watched that. Yeah. That might be interesting then, because you know how you always be making me watch movies I've never watched before. It's the best.
SPEAKER_00:I'll make you watch Boy Meets World. Okay. And it'll be good. You'll be watching. I mean, I've seen it.
SPEAKER_03:I've seen it. Let me let me clarify. It's not like I've never seen it. Right. I've seen it, but that's not one I watched regularly. So I've seen episodes of it, especially when they they had the reruns on somewhere that like a channel like back in the day when I would just have TV on all the time.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like it was on Nick at Night or something.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe. And I can remember just having it on like when I was studying, or like when I had babies and it was weird hours, or I was folding laundry as a stay-at-home mom. Like, you know, I feel like I probably have seen more. Like, I remember Mr. Feeney and I remember it's a Panga. Yeah. So anyway. Oh yes, we'll see. One thing we forgot to talk about.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_03:The theme song.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I remembered it instantly. Me too.
SPEAKER_00:I was like singing along.
SPEAKER_03:All of these shows. I don't know. Whoever wrote these theme songs is like, it's they must have also wrote jingles because they have staying power. They do. I'm like in my kitchen and I couldn't get out of my head. I was like, standing toe on the wings of my dream. I couldn't stop. And my husband was like, what are you singing?
SPEAKER_01:I was like, perfect street art. Hello.
SPEAKER_03:Hello. You. Yeah, the theme song's great. So good. Loved it.
unknown:All right.
SPEAKER_00:Well, thanks guys for being with us again on our TGIF series. And we will see you next time back here on General Generation of Between.
SPEAKER_02:Bye. That's us.
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