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Wild Moos
Welcome to Wild Moos, the no-holds-barred podcast where the boardroom meets the playroom.
Hosted by Amy of Mooeys and Nicole from Wild Bird Marketing, this podcast dives into the messy, joyful, and often chaotic life of being a mother and a business owner.
Every episode is a candid exploration of the trials and triumphs that come with juggling spreadsheets and sippy cups.
From start-up stories that defy the "perfect mum" myth to scaling a business without sacrificing sanity, Amy and Nicole share it all.
Expect laughter, tears, and plenty of swear words as they peel back the curtain on what it really takes to thrive in the dual worlds of business and motherhood.
Wild Moos is a community, a confession booth, and your cheerleading squad all rolled into one.
Whether you're knee-deep in nappies, drafting business plans, or just dreaming about what could be, Wild Moos is the podcast for every mum who’s ever had to lock the bathroom door just to answer an email.
Tune in for your regular dose of inspiration, commiseration, and a reminder that you're not alone on this wild ride of entrepreneurship and motherhood.
Wild Moos
Wild Moos Podcast Episode 9: The Overwhelm Is Real
Confessions & Overwhelm: The Wild Moos Unwind
Get ready for an episode that’s as unpredictable and heartfelt as life itself! In this rollercoaster ride of a podcast, Amy and Nicole, dive headfirst into the tumultuous world of New Year's resolutions, content creation, and the daunting yet exhilarating journey of business expansion.
From the hilariously relatable 'confessional booth' segment where no topic is off-limits (yes, including sound engineering mishaps and those ‘big ins’ confessions) to the raw, unfiltered discussions on managing overwhelm, this episode is a patchwork of laughter, stress, and breakthroughs.
Whether it's the magic of ‘keep on swimming’ amidst overwhelming to-do lists or finding joy in the simplest of things, this episode is a testament to the wild ride of being a mumpreneur. So grab your headphones (and maybe a notepad for those 'aha' moments) and join us for an episode that's as much about laughing at life’s absurdities as it is about finding your footing in the entrepreneurial universe.
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Nicole Bilham of WildBird Marketing Agency
https://wildbirdmarketing.co.uk/
Amy Lewis of The Mooeys Group
www.mooeys.co.uk | www.mooeysfranchise.co.uk | www.mooskin.co
Right, we've got a confession. This is where I'd like to start the podcast. Okay, we have a big confession.
Speaker 2:Right, I've got so many, but go for it Confession booth.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should do that as a feature.
Speaker 2:I thought that would be brilliant, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:I think I know what yours might be, though this week.
Speaker 2:Oh, I've actually got two big ins Fuck me, real big ins.
Speaker 1:It's a sound engineer, right yeah, and we've been having some right challenges with Shound. The Shound is shit.
Speaker 2:So in the last couple of episodes, have you noticed, nicole sounds like she's quite far away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe it's just been bothering her, and last week we spent probably half an hour moving the mic, adjusting, putting blankets over things to sort of sound.
Speaker 2:Well, we've put a feature behind Nicole with a blanket on. Just have a little bit of sound bouncing. But this is so budget this is so budget, but this is purely to help people Like we couldn't care less. Could? We about all of the trails and all the fanciness. This is about having great content, but the sound was shit and we was like what is going on? What's happening?
Speaker 1:So we asked Matt Billham to the rescue. So Matt will never listen to this, I think probably because he's so embarrassed of all the shit that I share. But thank you, matt Billham, if you ever make it to episode nine. He listened to it. He really told us up Well he told me off.
Speaker 2:He told you off and then you proceeded to phone me. Yeah, so it's share the blame. Yeah, fucking hell.
Speaker 1:You haven't been recording like that. Why have you done that? You're using all these technical words. It's one of his jobs. Has been a sound engineer. Yeah, he is a sound engineer, so he came around at the weekend and did us a proper sound check, didn't he? With his headphones on, with his very cute.
Speaker 2:All the kids light up headphones on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we had all the kids in here. It was fabulous and carnage and fabulous. Same time, but Matt was concentrating mode.
Speaker 2:Doing sound check About half an hour and he was like oh, he was messing around the game and turn the different might, different ways, and all of this, and then all of a sudden, the penny dropped. The penny dropped. So, we went into my Mac, I was like he goes, just set one up, let's see what it sounds like. I set it up and the default microphone was my Mac microphone.
Speaker 1:So this whole time we've got this lovely mic that sits in between us.
Speaker 2:Decent place Last year I think it's when I updated the script that we were called into. Yeah, the last time we done it. Yeah, because it closed. It collapsed on me, didn't it? And then something happened so I had to redo it and I think then, three or four episodes ago, it started the default microphone with the Mac one. Now the Mac always faces me yeah, because I'm always the one starting it all.
Speaker 1:So hence poor Nicole never got a look in on sound.
Speaker 2:We sound like you're in the garden. Where is she?
Speaker 1:She's in the bug, so hopefully this sounds a little bit better, but that's our confession of the week. We fucking fucked up.
Speaker 2:We. I love that you're taking this as a tandem we it is, it's us, it's me that sets it up, it's me, that starts it all.
Speaker 1:Thanks, babe.
Speaker 2:It's fucking to shared responsibility. But it was that moment, wasn't it, when you were just looking at me like what's going on, so what happened? I was like so what's happened? Mac was Um.
Speaker 1:I got the debrief afterwards, mac didn't understand why he could hear us so clearly when the when he was listening on the headphones, but yet when it was playback it sounded completely different?
Speaker 2:What are you recording to All the questions, Questions, questions questions, questions.
Speaker 1:So then, have you swapped seats? No, we'll swap seats Before we swapped seats. Amy then said it to record and her little face just went oh, Something just. And then she got up and walked to the other side of the table and I thought is she gonna share? Like what's happened there?
Speaker 2:Because it was really like naughty step by, you know when you really fucked up and you're like, do I fess up?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I could see it, I could see it all, or do I just?
Speaker 2:pretend that Matvillem spits it all. That's actually what I'm doing right here.
Speaker 1:Shall I tell them. And then she sat down, obviously, decided to fess up and just went. Guys, I've just just pressed record and I've seen Seen that it's not. It may have. She couldn't even spin it out, like it wasn't even a proper sentence. It may have been recording something. I just changed it to the mic and we were like Huh, what? I don't know, I don't know who summarised it, couldn't tell you where it came from, but someone went, I think I re-summarised it Like I've been recording on the Mac the whole time.
Speaker 2:They were recording on the Mac the whole time. So that little microphone in the Mac is what we've actually been using. Yeah, well done.
Speaker 1:I think it's done well. Well done Mat, well done Apple. Yeah, good job, good job. So here we are, confession number one done yeah, that was a big old, that was a biggie, yeah, but.
Speaker 2:I'm pleased that we got it sorted, and we were just laughing at ourselves the whole time about how budget we are. Yeah, because it's actually not costing us hardly anything. We just love it and we love getting feedback from people. Oh my God, it's actually having like a huge impact, I guess, and it's what keeps us going. So bring it on, please share the love, because you know, we're just talking about our day to day lives, right? We're just talking about what we're doing in business, what we want to do, what we want to achieve and how fucking hard it is at times. And today, normally we're very kind of laughy, jokey, joyous, and I feel like today is actually like I don't know, actually, because it's started being quite fun. So maybe I feel like I'm delirious.
Speaker 1:Side of stress yes, I feel that I'm delirious side of stress, like I'm really fucking overwhelmed. But right now, on this list of things that I've been doing right now on this lovely Tuesday, I just want to laugh about it, Because I know that you feel exactly the same and I want anyone else to come and join in our laughable hug at fucking how hilarious life is that we're trying to manage all this shit, Because that's what it feels like it is massive isn't it, and I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't ever remember January's being like this, but it is fucking madness. It's full on, I am. I feel like I am getting it from every angle.
Speaker 1:Oh, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's questions.
Speaker 2:It's like constant over communication. People aren't doing what they're meant to be doing. It's in, not my team, outside companies that we're signing up with. They're not fucking doing what they're meant to be doing. I hate lack of communication that stresses everything out doesn't it. Yeah and yeah. We've just got some massive projects going on at the minute and just trying to find time for meetings is like.
Speaker 1:And we haven't got any time, guys. Yeah, diary cluster fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So tell me, what are you, what's going on with you?
Speaker 1:I don't even know where to start. I genuinely don't even know where to start. That is how I feel about it. What's happening in your head right now? There are 50 million tabs open and about 70 of them are playing music. A 50 million tabs, 70 are playing music. Oh, God. It's just fucking, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. What's overwhelming Right? I had a lovely week last week. I'm working with a work experience woman. She is wonderful. I'm teaching her about the methodology and we're running Me being a client her being wild birds Amazing.
Speaker 2:But it's obviously taken time out because you're teaching her. Oh, fucking yeah, fucking fucking fuck. I mean it's free labor, because she's like yeah, I mean, she's a what's it called, Not an apprentice Work experience. Yeah, kind of work experience, but there's another word for it Internship.
Speaker 1:That's the one. I don't know if we'd call God. She sent me an email. It was a killer email. Can I have some work experience? I'd love to.
Speaker 2:It was brilliant actually so much so that I thought she used.
Speaker 1:AI to write it. She's 18. Wow, yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's, epic, she's gonna do great things?
Speaker 1:Oh, she is, she's wonderful, but we're role playing. So this week we did, last week, whatever fucking week we did, let's run a discovery call. I spoke about the methodology, I spoke about the questions that I always ask and I was on the other side of the table. So I was the client, and what a nice experience. I've had a lovely experience, but it's also allowed me to see where we've got holes in our process. Okay, why am I telling you this? Because she was asking. She'd asked some really good, open-ended questions, coaching questions that allowed me to think through some stuff I didn't know. Biggest learning I want to be the CEO of my business. I want to be less in my business. This is, I feel like this is the biggest struggle that I will always, always, always have. And now that I've identified it, defined it, felt, it, said it out loud, I want it to fucking happen. Yeah, but I'm so busy and you're so in it, I can't get out.
Speaker 2:This is the same conversation. We had, similar when I was saying I need an ops person, I need someone to help.
Speaker 1:I know exactly how you feel. I can't fuck, I can't fuck, fuck, fuck. And now I'm so fucking overwhelmed because the list is so long, yeah, and I feel like no matter how much time. Also, side note, I know that this is just a phase and I'll be all right yeah, like probably tomorrow is fine, but right now how I'm feeling is I can't see a fucking way out. The list is so long I feel like if you'd chain me to my desk for 10 days, I wouldn't even complete the fucking list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is really chaffed. You know what I've always felt like I need and I wish I diarised it is that time where you go away for three or four days to work on your business, because I would work 12 hour days, I would work solidly and I would get so much from it.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, me too, and I keep seeing all these fucking retreats like everyone's going on a fucking business retreat.
Speaker 2:It's thousands of pounds. You're like how can I afford that? I can't afford that. How?
Speaker 1:can I take time out of business?
Speaker 2:And then, oh, on top of that, I've got a family. Oh God, you know, let's not forget about that. I really am desperate, desperately looking for like a break, but not a break to do nothing. I'm desperately needing some time to actually work on this business and I feel like you need it. But until the, I mean, I'm in a different situation to use. The kids are older so I could actually do it. It's just money. When you are, you know the kids are younger and maths shift work. It's a bit difficult, isn't it for you.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is. Oh God, I'm just trying to figure out how I feel about it.
Speaker 2:I have you left the kids yet overnight.
Speaker 1:Eddie, yeah, no, not yet. No, no plans to. I don't want to have an issue with it, no, I just worry about my boobs filling up because, she's still feeding overnight and I got that engorgement feelings. Just vile, isn't it? Sorry, that's okay.
Speaker 2:I've been overwhelmed.
Speaker 1:Is that I can't think straight? I don't know. Tell me about your overwhelm, please Please.
Speaker 2:My overwhelm is yesterday I booked an entire day out with my Yasmin my Yasmin because her name is communications move, communications move. However, she is so much more and I just don't know and the title was just not big enough for her. I just love everything about what we do together and what we create, and we were like originally we just have a date for marketing and we're going to talk about what our plan is. We've got two. I've had this idea recently social media I don't have the money to outsource social media. I also have teams that are very quiet this time of year, that are in the salons and in the businesses. My social media move has gone and she's gone back to uni that she was great at what she was doing. She's great at helping me, but actually she's doing a business degree. She wanted to learn more about franchise side of things and grow franchise and social media just wasn't the right fit for her. I need someone that's really fun, creative, that really wants to do crazy videos and AMS. What is ASMR? No, asmr, what's it called?
Speaker 1:Do you know they're?
Speaker 2:tapping, what's it called? When it's sound videos? What is it? What's it ASMR? Is it ASMR? I don't know. I don't know. How do you not know this? I don't know. I think I'm so overwhelmed. I don't know. You will know it, you'll listen to it. I'll be like oh yeah, I think it's ASMR, I think I'm having a breakdown. It's that sound, do you know? The wax beads filling up the pot and all of that.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is ASMR, I think.
Speaker 2:I think I need somebody that's really into just what's trending and what people would want to see and love social media and is a content viewer.
Speaker 1:It's about content, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:So I had this idea the other day a couple of weeks ago. I've got these people in my team. Instead of them taking unpaid leave or like holiday because we're quieter, why don't I put this out into my team and see if anyone wants to do this job one day a week Because it doesn't need more. They can just spend a day creating and planning for the week ahead. I've got all the systems in place. It's all there ready to go. I actually had two applications from each salon. Amazing, yeah, they were both brilliant. I originally was just going to have one person doing one day a week, eight hours. It can be mums at home, it can be flexible. I don't really care how they do it, as long as it's done. I don't really want good content going out. But we've obviously got Moodskin products, we've got Moodskin Professional, moodskin Franchise and Moodskin Moos, so that's kind of a lot to cover, yeah. And then when I spoke to both of them, I was like I actually want both of you, so I'm giving them two each. Great job.
Speaker 2:When they go in one day and they're going to. So I've given one Moodskin Professional and Mooodskin Franchise products because it sits hand in hand. If they're doing one for Moos again, they can do it for Moos Professional and then one doing Moos and Moos Franchise so they can come do launches and stuff like that. Yeah, wicked, so they start on Thursday, but this idea. That's the thing, isn't it, when you're an entrepreneur. This idea then led to like 10 hours worth of work and now.
Speaker 1:I've got an.
Speaker 2:SAP that I've got to write. And then I've got to do another onboarding where I talk about brand guidelines and you know they've done videos for me as part of their interview as well. Yeah, but they're fontra really out and I need to give them like what colours, I want them to use and all of that yeah.
Speaker 1:So, I thought, well, no right, exactly. Sorry, I'm feeling the overwhelm on this, yeah.
Speaker 2:So then I was like this is fun, but there's a lot of work that goes into it. It's not just letting someone take on a job. I've then got contracts to do, then got all these different things. So I was like, yeah, as we need a day of marketing, because we need to have a plan in place so that when we do this on board and we can show them a content planner and in that content planner they can then pick and choose. But it's all in line with the blogs that we're posting and the newsletter that you're sending out.
Speaker 1:Yes, so it's all tied in together Exactly but we needed to put that in place.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a real big fact, oh my God, massive. So we were like, yeah, as come here, we'll get lunch in, we'll just spend the whole day doing this.
Speaker 1:How'd it go?
Speaker 2:Well, we probably spent half the day doing that. We ended up falling into this whole of pricing. Oh no, because we started talking about price increase, because it was starting the content planner. What's the big things happening? I was like we're going to do a price increase because minimum wage is going up. I refuse to pay minimum wage, so we always pay living wage, but that means every time there's a minimum wage increase it has to affect us.
Speaker 2:But that's happened four times now in the last three years and I understand why it happens. But for businesses like ours like it is, like we struggling because to actually put the price point to where it should be we're putting ourselves out of the market because of the locations we're in and all the overheads. So every time we've done a price increase there's been zero profit coming to us. It's literally just to cover the table.
Speaker 1:So you're coming up with a comms plan to put that together too.
Speaker 2:So originally it was like we're going to do it on the 31st of March in line for April pay rise. And we always do this big promotion with price increases because we sell courses. So if you buy six you get one free. So courses are bad for business but great for loyalty. So we push it when we need cash flow as well in the business. So February and October and November like low months. So if we're going to promote courses we would do it then because it's like an injection of cash when you need it.
Speaker 1:But it's also suits the audience as well at the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I was like I'm going to sleep on this. I woke up this morning and said to Martin I'm going to have to do this price increase for the first of March, but that's a whole massive beast. It's a huge job because we've got with all the services on the booking system. We've got hundreds with all the different variations. So you have to sort out who's going to do all of that. And then we have something called Treat Points, which is how many points it takes for you to pay for your service. So you build up your loyalty points, you use them for free treatments. That all then needs to be adjusted for every treatment and every salon six salons, then the course prices, then the price lists, then the website. So it's just a huge job, and then also who communicates that.
Speaker 2:But before we do any of that, I do loads of research. So Sophie, my fairy-grandmother, she looks after her phone and so she's really good on research and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So she will always do the research for me before I put any price increase. So it will be how many services of each one did we do last year when we'll do like a price comparison with other salons in the area to see where we fit and if we put a pound on, how much is that? So it was like it's a massive job. Normally we'd do it in three months and I'm basically saying to my team we're going to have to do this in six weeks. Yeah, who does what and when? That's okay, because we've done this enough times. We all know what we're doing and who takes responsibility.
Speaker 2:But whilst me and Yaz was doing this, we were then talking about the cost of products and she was like when was the last time you revisited the cost of products? You know? I was like well, when we launched Moosekin I done it because, like the cuticle pen, all these different products were used and now the buff product, which has the same oil in. Yeah, however, I said I know that oil has gone up massively. I don't know exactly how much. And she said I think we need to revisit that. Oh God, okay. So then we went through all of the cost prices. She was then pulling all the latest invoices for me to put in the prices and calculate the products. And our oil over the last three years has gone up 20 quid. Fuck, every five liters it's gone up by 20 quid. So I've actually been selling it probably with like 10% margin. Oh God, okay, well now we know.
Speaker 2:So it's all that sort of stuff, but then also all of my calculations for all the products that use that product.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:So the pens, the cuticle oil droppers and the buff. I've been calculating on the old price, but this new delivery that's come in is so much higher. So, with all the essential oil blend, everything that we make has gone up so much, but over the last three years. So now not only do I need to do a price increase in the salons treatment-wise you can now to adjust but we also sell these products to colleges. We sell them to Salons Direct, which is like a distributor of our products. We then sell them to other salons on Moors Professional, a wholesale so. And then we also have loads of packages that contain all these products. So Bundles, bundles. So now we've got to calculate what.
Speaker 1:I can see where the overwhelm is coming from. Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. So, yes, where that day was meant to be marketed, it started off and we dipped our toe into this. I just kept on looking at it again. Yeah, this is massive. This is so much bigger than the time we've got today and she went.
Speaker 2:I feel like we need to make a start on this, because if you're doing price increase, you're gonna have to factor in a price increase for Moors Franchise to our salons and franchise salons, as well as to Moors Professional other salons in colleges, because the comms that go to these people. She's like you've got to stop taking the hit Cause.
Speaker 2:I've always been like oh, it's okay, it's our salons, oh, don't worry, I'm just gonna go for that. And she said so. When do you step up and go? You've got to stop taking the hit. Stop giving them free, like price list. Stop giving everything away because you're doing it for your own salons. You've got to you know that oil is now 20 pound more and it's just got to be 20 pound more.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about this?
Speaker 2:I don't mind the prices. I'm just a bit disappointed in myself that I haven't kept on top of this. But I think this is really common in business, especially with your margins, and I'm really hot on margins, but I'm working. My margins are absolutely on point, but on an old price. Yeah, and this is really common. But especially when you're manufacturing products, as you'd know, with the candles, I'm getting one supplier to provide the bottles, one supplier for labels, one supplier for filling, yeah, and then if one goes up, if one goes up, then everything has to go up and it's just so big and because it's so big and so overwhelming, you go oh it's only a couple of pence, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then all of a sudden attributed to three years later that couple of pence is now 20 quid a product.
Speaker 2:My wax has all gone up Like twice over the last two years. I've never put a price increase on it, so she's like you've done all these price increases in the salons. They're buying your product, but that hasn't gone up. Yeah, everything's gone up, but you're training your products. Everything is still the same, but you're delivering exactly the same and more.
Speaker 1:Oh, love it.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's amazing. She is incredible. She's like my sounding board as well, like my voice of reason, but it's, you know, I think for me it's just I just go oh, it's just such a big job, where do you start? So I normally sleep on it before making a big decision. And then this morning I wake up, spoke to Martin. He was like what can give, what is it that you can give? He said because I'm really worried, if you don't do something, you're going to end up having a breakdown or getting ill or something's going to happen. Yes, I can see it in you, yes, and he was like but I do feel like your podcast needs to stay.
Speaker 1:This thing that takes up quite a chunk of the week has got to stay.
Speaker 2:Because otherwise you have no outlet, do you? And I feel like it's really important for us, when you're that overwhelmed, to do something that's for yourself. Otherwise I would just be working from eight in the morning to eight at night at least, and we're here, yeah, here. So you have to have something that breaks it up.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I'm sat here wanting to help and wanting to try and fix your problems. I don't need to. I don't need to.
Speaker 2:So this morning I was delegation Right. So if you need to do this yes, this is a list of to do Don't feel overwhelmed. There's no pressure on this, Like to do it instantly. Just work through it and know that these are a priority in your workload. Yeah, she's like brilliant. Leave that with me. I'll work through it and then Sophie's doing her thing Once they've done theirs. Then I will be in a better place to work through mine. The prices I can sort out, podcast stays and I'll just work through it. But I'll put it out of the bag, but I just need a bit of a process, Like I need I write it all down, but I'll need a process of what's a priority.
Speaker 1:Right, I really feel that you need some help and I want you to outsource some help.
Speaker 2:What, though? What do I outsource? I mean, Susie would design all the flyers for me, the price list, but I don't. I think that'd be okay.
Speaker 1:I'll be okay. I know you'll be okay because you have to, like we have to but I would love to sit with you and look at that list and just go right, you're not doing this bit. It does not make sense. It's not good use of your time to be doing this bit. Yeah, and we come up with that list of jobs and even if it's not someone in your team, you pay someone on fiver to fucking do it. Yeah, we're gonna do it because, martin's right, we are both teetering on the edge of a fucking breakdown.
Speaker 2:It's not okay, I think the difficulty with all of it is the workload I can manage, but it's that stopping your work to then do dinner, to then go back into work, to then do bedtime to the it's all of that and I think that's why I find it most stressful and that's why I'm just craving that like go away for four days and I'd bosh it out like I'd get it all done. But I know that's not feasible. But then also I feel like an epic failure because I'm not doing my like looking after the kids or being here for them.
Speaker 2:But they're okay and I've done this for years, they know that when I'm in this mode, it's like just let me crack on with it, and I'm very I feel very lucky that I've got Martin and my mum's here now. Yeah, so they're all here to support and help, and that's when you need to call on your people, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, because I hate the kids not being taken care of like I don't want them to feel lost and they won't, they won't because that's such a priority for you. Yeah, yeah you have done this on your own for such a long time, I know, yeah, you have a reminder every day. I don't play small yeah, I want to get that, to do this and pick out the things that are you playing small and I bet my fucking life but right, this is my point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is. But then if there's, this is the difficulty, isn't it? If there's no money in the business, who do?
Speaker 1:I get to do that. Let's just look at the fucking list first because, this is our. This is you transitioning from be doing everything like the wonderful book that you're probably don't have fucking time to read this week, but the book that you have been reading yeah yeah, to get you away from those on the tools tasks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and fucking hand them over to someone else. I don't even care if we make the list, we'll do it after this. I don't do it on the fucking whiteboard. We make the list. It doesn't go anywhere. But I just want to get write it all down, get read it out to me and put the things that are playing small on there. Yeah, because that is not where Amy Lewis should be spending her time. I know I'm adding to the overworld by saying this out loud. I get that, but this is where the growth and the scale happens but then that's it.
Speaker 2:As a director of a company, I should be looking at those figures.
Speaker 1:I should be all over that, yeah, but you've also got your day-to-day list as well on top of that, yeah, so I, everything day-to-day is completely ditched.
Speaker 2:I'm just got to focus on price increase and and make. It's not actually me doing it, it's delegating who does what and when and and diarising it so everyone doesn't feel that overwhelm. Yeah, because if the event is managed and everyone knows what their deadlines are, then they're not going to feel like when that's my job to not pass that on yeah, but then the day-to-day list.
Speaker 1:What happens with that? Because you've sidelined it, for I don't know.
Speaker 2:So this is do I need to pop up on my franchise website? Is it that urgent? Probably not.
Speaker 1:Data capture on will it help to do this exercise? Potentially.
Speaker 2:I just need to the big jobs, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I've got to work through the big jobs first but we also know that you hate doing the big jobs and you're fanning around on the small jobs because the big jobs terrifying yeah, but I haven't got a choice for this one. No fanning around, I've just got to get it done procrastination being the thief of joy, which is what we spoke about the other week, and do you know what Martin said to me?
Speaker 2:he was I eat that frog, or whatever it was. Yeah, well, I'm. He was like it was you that told me about that book. I said I've never read it, I don't know what you're talking about. That's Nicole Biller, who said that I'm a podcast. He went no, you've told me I'm like oh, I'm emerging into the same person. I've never said anything about it. But eat that fog isn't about having chosen the most challenging one first and mine is this price is.
Speaker 2:I'm just a bit I'm so annoyed and I have got to stop undercharging and over delivering and I think we're all so guilty of that. Yeah, big time like yeah knowing. I'm so right, don't worry, I'll just post that to you. I'll sort that, but I'm also making up fucking product at the minute, yeah, which always is so time consuming, but it it's not something I can't outsource yet because we're not ordering big enough quantities, so I've got to do it, yeah that's a playing small but has to say yeah, and it's a beautiful product and it's I mean, the margin is is great if I wasn't making it however, last it's a lovely
Speaker 1:product, but that is something I'm doing in the evenings yeah, but I know, I know that your evenings, you capitalise on your evenings to do work anyway so all you're doing is robbing Peter to pay Paul exactly, yeah, so it's all those things, isn't it? Oh god this is so fucking right. Shake, shake, shake your wheels out.
Speaker 2:So what about you? Because you've done your classic. You've got three working days and actually you're doing seven. Seven working days in three oh god, what is it?
Speaker 1:what is it? It's just the list. I'm a control freak. I don't know if I am. I am, but I'm happy delegating as well. I can hear my sister in my head go no fucking on, but it's so. Why am I so overwhelmed? Because I'm not. Oh god, I don't even know how to articulate it. I just feel like fuck, the list is massive so there you are offering to help me.
Speaker 2:Like you need to do it your own list.
Speaker 1:I think yeah, but I don't have a team, I don't have anyone else to help, I've got no one to outsource it to. Well. No, that's a lie. You're lying, cole.
Speaker 2:You fucking idiot I love that you just talked yourself off just randomly oh god, I just I feel like I'm on the edge of right number one.
Speaker 1:I'm not getting as much sleep as I usually would, because hope, god lover is waking up quite a lot in the night and draining me dry of. Is she in her own room?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah, which is also a faff, because I don't want to have to get up, so, and are you feeding her every time she's waking up?
Speaker 1:yeah, which I shouldn't be doing making a ride from my own back, blah, blah, blah. So that is hard comfort blanket. Oh yeah, she does that anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she picks up the blanket that she has and does no, you, your boobs are a comfort blanket for her to get back to sleep yeah, but to be honest I could shut them, but she is only little and it's the last one, let me have it.
Speaker 1:Not getting enough sleep. The list is so long I could cry shit. Life stuff keeps happening. We've had storms this week. We lost two fucking fence panels. Oh yeah, you're really angry about your fence. I'm really angry because our neighbours had asked us to replace them and Matt Billers of the opinion, I'm not fucking replacing it until it's fucking broken. That that's stressful for me because I don't like unrest in my camp.
Speaker 2:Yes, and do you feel judged by your neighbors? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've got a text saying.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen, but the fences, of course can fucking see the fences blown over like that. There is now open space between our boundaries. I get that Matt's not overly comfortable with having to replace it, so I've had to be like we can, you can do this, it's fine, don't worry. So there was. That was a drama yesterday. Mum's got a radiotherapy, you're getting the whole list so yeah, hit me with it, mum's getting a radiotherapy start.
Speaker 1:I took her last Friday and I took hope because she's a delightful baby, she's a therapy baby, she is a therapy baby. But my fucking god, did we get stuck in all the fucking cunting traffic on the way back?
Speaker 1:so no, she cried and I find that quite stressful, like most people, because she can't fucking do anything and my mum was worrying about it and felt really guilty. So I was trying not to like, oh god, drop mum back back in Luton. And then got stuck on the fucking a6 at clopill because they've got shitty road works there. And then she cried, she screams, that's horrible, isn't it?
Speaker 2:willow used to do that, and she used to make herself sick oh god, she didn't make it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why she was crying, probably because she'd been in the car seat for so fucking long. What mother of the year award that's just going under over there yeah, you didn't get that.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't get that that day.
Speaker 1:Then she's got this schedule of radiotherapy treatment which starts in the worst fucking week possible for us, and we're trying to rotor it out as the siblings, which we think is done now, but well done. That's a bit shit. Like we've got to put drive from here to pick her up from Luton to take her to Mount Vernon in Watford then.
Speaker 1:So you're gonna make a 10 minute appointment to have the blast of radiotherapy, which is wonderful because it means that she's less likely to get cancer. Yes, look great, wonderful. But fucking hell, where are we? Plus all of the work stuff, plus trying to grow and scale, plus trying to fucking get all this shit the content that I'm creating into an online course, which I'm not making any headway on, which I feel really guilty about. Plus, oh my god, I need helping the business, but I can't afford to have helping the business. What the fuck do I do about that? Right, I want to grow more, but I can't take on more. But go what? Something else happened. Oh, we need four new tyres on the car. Mother, fucking tyres. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Matt.
Speaker 1:Billham keeps like we need those tyres, we need those tyres and I'm like, Is it down to you to sort out one?
Speaker 2:of your tasks.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's a shared job, but it's like 400 quid in the worst month of the year financially. Yeah, stick it on a credit card and worry about it another time, plus the fucking fence drama Stick it on a credit card and worry about it another time, plus a load of other shit. So yeah, I'm really overwhelmed. I'm working late at night.
Speaker 2:That's the tricky thing. Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you think you could do for yourself and your own wellness? This that makes you feel better. Oh, this, because it's having an outlet, isn't it? It's been able to get it out. It's like a pressure cooker, isn't it? Once you release the steam, you're like, oh, it's okay, not that bad now If I can work through it, because really, the priority is day to day bringing in your income to survive and also your mum and the kids From all of that and the kids. But the kids weren't in that equation really, so it's a problem. We hope, like crying, that's every pair that goes through that.
Speaker 1:No, there's something going on with Eddie as well. Yeah, eddie's. No, he's fine, but it's just.
Speaker 2:He is quite possibly one of the most handsome little boys I've ever seen. Oh, that's lovely. He's just so scrumptious, isn't he? And hope well, I just want to hold her favour.
Speaker 1:She's a good therapy baby. I do believe she's an empath. I think she takes away any, I don't know how. I think she's very gifted. I think she is really, really gifted.
Speaker 2:Piper used to be the same. I'm just warning you.
Speaker 1:I loved that time with Piper at the weekend.
Speaker 2:She's hard work. At the minute. She's really. She's an absolute sweetheart, but we're really struggling with what to do and how to do it with her at the minute. I mean, I love her resilience and she's so defiant. She will not do anything she don't want to do and it's a fight. Yeah, she is like no, I want my breakfast, I want it now. And I'm like no, you need to get school clothes on, I want it now. And then she lashes out and then she's spanging on tables. Magnesium isn't really helping. It's getting her to sleep better, but this regulation they're just so irrational aren't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm like I have been as we discussed. I don't think I said it on the poddy last week, but my hormones been all over the show.
Speaker 2:I think it's because you're at the end of breastfeeding and you started your period and still breastfeeding. You're like you're all over the show. Poor Matt Billum, poor Matt Billum. He didn't look like poor Matt Billum at the weekend. He's lovely, my daughter. I think he's the most handsome man on the planet.
Speaker 1:Well, is it Piper? Wasn't it the youngest she?
Speaker 2:was, like your husband's, so handsome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so funny on that video call, on the soundcheck video call. And then when we were here on Saturday, I caught Matt Billum and Piper having a conversation in the living room. She was flirting with him. She was flirting with him. She was like look at my new t-shirt. And then just lifting up her jumper and Matt was like nice, and she saw, I like I peeked my head into the living room and she was like oh, the Scotland back off to the stage.
Speaker 2:She's going to the death. Stare like how dare you interrupt?
Speaker 1:me. I'm flirting with your husband. What are you fucking doing here, hi?
Speaker 2:Piper, yeah, yeah, they're just ages six and eight and it's all difficult, it's all hard and the world is not designed for us to have it all as in, like schooling and life and all of this. So we want to be full-time entrepreneurs and look after our family when it suits us and have life and freedom and flexibility, and I fucking will have it all. I will Stop telling me I can't. No, we can, we will get there eventually.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I think we will. I think I've got decision fatigue at the minute. So when life stuff, I've lost the ability to communicate. When life stuff happens the pressure of the household, I just take it out on Matt and that's not okay because we work very differently. But my argument is always why don't you have the list of shit that needs doing in your head? Why do I have to say Can you put a load of washing on, please To help? Because the washing never ends, never ends. No, have you done this, this and this? What have you done on the list? What list?
Speaker 2:The daily list that we have to do all the time to survive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or people like I'm getting to that point now where people are Eddie's friends. Mums, are you coming to the party? Are you doing this? The comms God? You went to the go to school Fucking cunts.
Speaker 2:I love them all, me, the PA, to manage it all.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, I can't. And why is it all on me? Why aren't texting, fucking Matt?
Speaker 2:I tell you why, actually, I'm not in the groups. Martin is.
Speaker 1:Because Matt wouldn't fucking respond.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not in any of the what's up groups. Martin's responsible for it all.
Speaker 1:What does he respond though? Yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 2:No, matt Get totally involved. He's like, oh, they need terms this week and they need that, yeah, great.
Speaker 1:Do I feel? Do you feel better?
Speaker 2:Do I feel better? No, I actually do. I feel a little bit less stressed. I did do a workout this morning, some meditation Did you. Yeah, it made me feel so much better.
Speaker 1:Oh, I probably need a bit of that, but there ain't no fucking time.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I done like 20 minutes and then 10 minutes of meditation.
Speaker 1:How can we help anyone that's listening to this?
Speaker 2:I don't think any of this has been helpful.
Speaker 1:Just know that you're in the trenches with us?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it does, and it won't last forever and you just need to one foot in front of the other. Yeah, keep on swimming, keep on swimming.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, I like that. That's all I ever hear in Finding Dory.
Speaker 2:Keep on swimming. That's so true. If you just keep going, just keep doing it, you'll get through it.
Speaker 1:I promise you yes but we're going to help each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it is about prioritising and it's about understanding that you're just not going to achieve it all. And you know, and we are control freaks and we are impatient, yeah, and so we're bringing a lot of this on ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we said actually that this was going to be really fucking hard, that while doing world moves, where we're both out business wise, we're trying to scale, we're trying to grow, we're having a lot of big fucking breakthroughs, of course it's going to get overwhelming at some point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but every woman that is running a household and holding down a job or trying to build a business is going to feel exactly like we are feeling right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we've got you back. Keep on swimming, keep on swimming.
Speaker 2:I love that Also. When you sing it to yourself. It calms you down, doesn't it? It does.
Speaker 1:I tell you why it's probably the inner child. I think, oh really, yeah, yeah, because it immediately it's soothing, isn't it Like?
Speaker 2:singing a lullaby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's my theory on it. Anyway, it's a bloody great theory. Keep on swimming. That's better than shaking your willies out, isn't it? I think?
Speaker 2:so Shaking your willies out, it does work, because it kind of puts you in a fun mood, yeah. But when it feels really stressful, really overwhelming, and you just don't know what to do, because it stops you in your tracks, doesn't it? Yeah, it's paralysing, it is and it consumes you and then you can't focus.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you do when you're in that frame of mind, when you are at that point where you're like I haven't got fucking clue what I've got fucking to do, and so I'm going to stay here. I will make a cup of tea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I can do that. What did I do? Oh, yesterday I felt a bit of it and I decided I knew I had to work in the evening, but I shifted the jobs around and the priorities what am I trying to say? So that the least thinking jobs were saved for the evening? Yeah, it's the first time I've really done that, because I wanted to do that job, because I knew that I'd get it done and I would have felt an easier one. Yeah, I would have felt a sense of achievement, but instead I did all the hard stuff in the day and then saved the easier job for when my energy is a bit lower, which really helped.
Speaker 1:When I'm in paralysis, overwhelm mode, what do I do? I do something grounding like clean the kitchen. What I should do and I don't ever is I should go for a walk and I can't because I'll go. No, no, no. You can't fucking do that. That it's just too long. No, no, no. So I'll just end up getting more and more worked up, more and more stressed about it. You could just take an hour. I wouldn't even need a fucking hour. I'd guarantee you 15 minutes would do it. But I think sometimes for me, the worry, then the overwhelm, comes from thinking that the job that I need to do is bigger than what it actually is, because I just can't get started.
Speaker 2:And that's it when you start something, you realise that you can just do it.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's this easy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about you? I rewrite my to-do list. Yes, I don't really like this. I do rewrite it and then I sleep on it, and then I'll try and do a workout or like a meditation, and then I'll be a lot clearer.
Speaker 2:So, although I've got it offloaded and said like I've got this, I've got that, actually I feel really okay about what I've got to do and how I've got to do it. I've just got loads of things coming at me, yeah, and we've got training, management training and all of the management meeting and all these things, but it's the logistics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because one job is not just one job, it is 20 jobs and it is, and also because Martin's doing the fit-out in Farnham. He's away every weekend but he needs certain materials to do those, the jobs that he's booked in. So I have to order the materials off, source them Plus solo parent Kind of. Yeah, I've moved mum in now, though.
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so she's helping like school pick up and the kids go, but he's here in the week but he's obviously got his job. That's sending him out on the road as well, and it's just communication. We look at the diaries every week who's going to be here when, what, and then what I'm going to do actually once we finish this is I'm going to block out days where I haven't got any meetings over the next three or four weeks and clear them down and just put no meetings, no bookings and just work through all my stuff. Yeah, that's a good shout, because I'm really guilty of that. And I've booked in a weekend because we're all so busy, till the end of Feb. Actually, I've booked a weekend in March and I've put family weekend, no bookings, no, nothing, nice. So mum's moved out by then. Yeah, and it's just a family weekend. And if it means that we sort out my office and Martin's garage, we'll do it, but there's just nothing booked in.
Speaker 1:We did that. Well, I did that with the kids the other weekend because they were both like teetering on being ill and I thought I can't afford for them to be off in the week coming, so I'm just going to rest them this weekend.
Speaker 2:Best thing ever.
Speaker 1:It was, and do you know what I actually? I felt less stressed because I wasn't running around like going from one thing to another thing to another thing to try and occupy them. But their energy was depleted anyway because they were on the verge of getting ill. I mean, by Sunday afternoon Eddie was like on the turn. But it meant that they had a better week last week and I've started the week just feeling really well, rested and ready because I had time to do things like get like sort the kitchen out, yeah, and I just yeah, stuff like shit like that. That makes the week less stressful. Do the fucking washing. So I'm with you on the family days.
Speaker 2:I think it's really important and we used to do it. We've stopped doing it. So every month we'll book in a weekend where we just say no bookings, yeah, nothing, yeah, and it'll be. It gives Martin time to you know, potter, he's got loads of stuff he wants to out in his garage and it kind of gives that freedom and flexibility of no plans and then, if we are a bit more, they'll just go for a walk, yes, and we'll go and get lunch on the wall.
Speaker 1:Whatever, I know I'm with you on that. I also kind of I feel like I've gone full circle on. I used to feel that I needed to occupy all of Eddie's time.
Speaker 2:No that's the worst thing, isn't it? Yeah, and I don't, I don't if I say I ever had was one activity a day when. I was at home with little ones yeah, a mum of three boys. She was like you're doing too much, you're putting too much in your diary, you're like trying to take these kids out morning and afternoon. I was like what? Just do one thing a day, yeah, and it's stuck with me, but there's so much pressure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from where there Other like socials, other parents, I, I'm feeling pressured to put Eddie in a club and I'm like what the fuck are you playing at? He's in nursery Monday to Friday. He's too little, don't need to, he's gonna have all of that.
Speaker 2:They're gonna be wanting you to do something every bloody evening, or yeah, and we've got a cap on that. Two things they're allowed to do yeah, two things. And swimming, because we really want them to be able to swim.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's fair. It's an essential life skill.
Speaker 2:It is, yeah. I mean, I never went to swimming lessons from the age of two, but you, know I'm gonna sound like a knob.
Speaker 1:Now you ready?
Speaker 2:I bet you did.
Speaker 1:No, it grew up with a pool in the back garden. Did you, my mum and dad, have got a pool? Yeah, it's not like fucking big time millionaires. My dad dug it out with his mates when my mum was pregnant with my brother, so 40 odd years ago. Yeah, dug it out, put it together himself with his friends. I absolutely love this. It's a bodge job, yeah, but and every year it's been a year. Well, since the energy crisis, we've not really used it because it costs a fucking bomb to heat it, at least in solar panels. But we call it costed lute and it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. But because of it, we all know how to swim, because we've all nearly drowned in it. Isn't that funny? I'll never forget it. We were, I was in the pool. I must have been really young, I don't know how old. So it goes from three foot deep to seven foot deep and you can stand up in the shallow end.
Speaker 1:Well, if you're taught, if you're depending on how to do that, of course, but it was always if you could start venturing down the deep end and you'd hold on to the sides. Safety briefing from the parents. My brother had taken me in and my mum doesn't like swimming. Like do you know where you're? Just like, why have you done this? She's not a fan of swimming. She hates getting her hair wet. She won't go in the deep end. She can't fucking swim is basically the crux of it.
Speaker 1:Dad has built this thing that we've had in the family for all these years and mum's never been in the deep end of it. Forty odd years the hilarity of this. So my sister was in the pool. My brother was in the pool but he was supposed to be minding me and I'm. It's got like flagstones on the edge and they're really fucking rough White flagstones on the edge of the pool where you hold on alongside and I'm holding, and I think my sister was winding up my brother and he'd left me. So, like Nicole, hold on to the side and left me to go and have a fight with my sister in the pool in the deep end to try and drown her.
Speaker 1:You know, I had a itchy nose, let go of the side, scratch my nose Went under. Next thing I remember is being like on the side of the but nearly drowned on the side of the pool. Yeah, who pulled you out? No fucking clue. I've got no idea. Oh my god Would have been. I don't know. If my dad was that, I don't know. I don't know. I'll ask them. Report back next week. I'll tell you I just vividly. We had this like really old wicker chair and I was sat in that and they're all like looking around me going, are you alright?
Speaker 1:And I'm like oh my god, yeah, did I die.
Speaker 2:No, I'm here.
Speaker 1:I must have been four, maybe a bit younger, but we thought it was great, absolutely great. And Matt Benham's not the strongest of swimmers, watch out. I've got not looked this, look at this, overwhelm com. So I've got nothing. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I mean, I don't feel like it's that shit.
Speaker 2:I feel like we've waffled a lot more about other stuff, but overwhelm. What are you going to do, nicole? I don't know. So when you get back here, you've got to meet in this afternoon. Yeah, is that more work that's going to come your way.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2:Manageable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are you going to do? They, let me deflect.
Speaker 2:I have got a meeting at three and then the kids are swimming tonight and I am going to commit to get in an early night reading my book. Good, you need that, I really need it, and I don't want to be looking at wallpaper at midnight tonight which is what I was doing last night and telling the artificial grass company that please, please, please, make sure this gets to me by Friday. Like you know, when you put an order in online and it says adjunct comments, I was like no, can I leave a voice?
Speaker 2:no, that's it. No, please, please, please. I know your delivery says two to four days, but I really need it at three at the latest.
Speaker 1:Oh god Do you know what they done though.
Speaker 2:Well, absolutely fucking nailed it. Organised for collection to day delivery tomorrow. They must have seen that message and got you poor stressed. I will get it sorted for you, I love them I know, that was amazing, and I feel like when you have a good night's sleep, oh, everything's right.
Speaker 1:I want some good food.
Speaker 2:I want to do something. I'm going to cook something really nice for dinner tonight. I don't know what that is, but I'll cook something really nice, and then we'll have an early night and then I will be ready and rare in tomorrow. Yeah, everything else can wait. Nobody died. That's a saying in our family. Yeah, when willow was two, did I tell you this? No, I can't remember. When willow was two, she had one of those little electric keyboards. Yeah, and it's always been a saying. We just didn't realise. We said it. Nobody died, it's alright, don't worry about it. No, everything's figure outable. Yeah, other than that, what? The other than what? The other than someone died?
Speaker 1:You can't figure that out, it's got to be the keyboard. So she had this keyboard.
Speaker 2:And then she started singing and she started hitting the keyboard. Nobody died, nobody died, nobody died. And we just looked at her and we were like holy shit. We said that a lot, yeah, but it was this song. Now, every time I think of willow going nobody died, nobody died.
Speaker 1:Nobody died. Oh God, don't just love them when they're all so innocent and they don't know what they're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and do you know what? We say that to her now and she'll look at me and she's like, yeah, no, nobody died, because she is going through a lot of the friendships and stuff at the minute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, because I interviewed her about it the weekend.
Speaker 2:You did interview her, yeah, so I took her to Starbucks last week for a hot chocolate and a little chat. And I said to her do you know? It's only thing I can do to make you feel better. I'm sorry you're going through all of this. And she went oh, this is perfect. You've done more than enough, I love this she's an angel.
Speaker 2:It's just time, isn't it? You just want time, they just want a little bit of time. So I feel like, because Pipe is struggling so much, I'm going to do the same with her this week. So I'm going to try not to work. Martin will be listening to this going yeah right, she won't. She's saying not working in the evening, she will. But tomorrow I'm going to spend some time with Pipe in the evening as well and see if I can help her a little bit. It works through this and I want to just maximise my days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, optimisation, efficiency are probably the really boring words of the next week?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if I need to work that day and Sunday, then I will. That doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather make sure I can get jobs done. If I've got people here looking after kids or there's availability and sometimes the kids that could film, and I'm just sitting there and do something, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I this weekend I'm working. Yeah, I've got to attend a course. I know I don't know if I've told you this.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:So Matt Billham is solo parenting for the first time, I'd say Wow, since hope's been born. Yeah, no, that's unfair. The first like overnight. I am inaccessible all of Saturday, all of Sunday. In the day my house is yeah are you gonna be home, though?
Speaker 2:no, stay in the way I'm in woven. No, is it night, saturday night? No, I've got come back at night commute yeah, I'm really excited for you, but have you got a lot to prepare for? Is that? No, no, no, you were actually doing the training. Yeah, what is it? Can you tell me? No secret squirrel, I'll tell you afterwards how I'm really excited, yeah, but are you trying to prepare, like get things done ready for that, because you know there's gonna be more work coming out of it?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no. It's just to build knowledge, okay, and exposure. So it's necessary for one of a client that I'm working with, hmm, but the course runs over the weekend and it just so happens that Matt is off so I can go, which is fabulous, but he will be on his own. He'll be fine, cause he will, he'll be absolutely fine yeah, but this is yeah. Eight months no longer. I can't remember last time I've done anything like this that's good, though.
Speaker 2:It's good that you're gonna spend some time on yourself, because whilst you're there, you're gonna be figuring out different things and you'll have little light bulb moments. Take notepad oh, big time, you see everyone's got those like digital notepads remarkable they're so expensive.
Speaker 1:I know 400 quid I know I've got a fucking pen in this phone. I might as well just use that did you know, I know you.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, I know who she is fuck it is bougie, but I know it's good technology. But I like this. I like the actual feel of a pain, feel of writing things down. So I keep. I went to. When I went to that franchise thing so many people had it and I was like I haven't got 400 quid to spend a notepad like I'm using a pocket pads, but there is a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it still works when you do it digitally, but there's a lot of research that suggests the action and motion of writing means that it goes into your yeah, and also it slows you down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I can type faster than I can, oh yeah and you can speak, and I know that everything is to make everything as quickly as possible, yeah but I feel like that's just causing so much of this overwhelming, so much of this stress and anxiety and all these things that everyone struggles with. Like I really like the thing I'm writing.
Speaker 2:I know yeah, I like journaling, but I just I do feel like I'd like a digital one, so I just carry one thing around, rather than these massive groups of paper, yeah, but then also, what can you do with it afterwards?
Speaker 1:it's having the tech, isn't it?
Speaker 2:and an actual written, yeah because it just has pages in it, doesn't it so?
Speaker 1:you just keep writing on it. I mean, it looked epic it they do look nice. New tattoo, or one of them.
Speaker 2:I want to get new tattoo am I trying to say?
Speaker 1:I wanted to say that I've unfollowed some unhelpful oh, really proud of you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ditch him. Yeah, anyone that makes you feel shit about yourself, ditch they were really making me feel shit about Wildbird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ditch their social media agencies that are targeting owners, owner, founders of agencies and they're just making me feel like I am not where I should be or not. They're really making me question my processes.
Speaker 2:They don't make you feel good enough, like you're good enough yeah, all of it.
Speaker 1:I really don't. I don't agree with that way of marketing, like finding the pain point and pushing it as hard as you fucking can.
Speaker 2:Yeah it all go round in circle again. Yeah, but we're saying when I I've got my tip-talk account I use is like a vlog, mmm, and I was doing like just to help if it was out at help other business owners, but that ten minute videos just not getting anywhere and actually I love this so much more I might just delete that account. I think a lot of content, but remind me of your word of the year, please joy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, that doesn't bring me any joy anymore. And also because I'm not getting anything back. I don't know if I'm helping on there and it's can I make a suggestion?
Speaker 1:yeah, live on air, mmm. As we speak you live. Sack that off, yeah, and start doing it on Wild Moose she's not feeling it.
Speaker 2:I don't know what you mean, sorry, what do you mean? Like promoting Wild Moose?
Speaker 1:no, getting on doing a story, doing the videos, not the ten minutes but doing the jumping off, hopping on a story on the Wild Moose count oh, on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was sorry, I thought you meant to take off account for I was totally aware how am I gonna do that unless we film this tech wise? What do we know?
Speaker 1:no, I was thinking film this, grab your phone and go. Hey guys, feeling a bit of overwhelm today. Hope you are. Whatever the fuck it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, because if you start doing it, I'll start doing it oh, so we really over one, just giving ourselves another job for social media?
Speaker 1:no, because you're taking away your ten minute films videos on tiktok mmm for 30 seconds of a blast on stories. Yeah, okay, maybe I'm not for it scared, but yeah, why we did talk about this earlier. Off a bit, I have got the ick when it comes to my own brand. Social media can't do it. I get stuck in my own head and I can't do it but anybody else is.
Speaker 2:You absolutely know, yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like we need to work on that a little bit, oh big time, but this might encourage me, then might help. Yeah, just keep it real. Yeah, I just overthink it yeah, I can't do that? Can't say that, no, no, no. And Wild Moose as well, like it's us.
Speaker 2:It's not just me, the whole purpose of this is that we are completely more authentic. If we're dickheads, we're dickheads. You know, I am a dickhead.
Speaker 1:We are, but we're really funny with it, yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel like just keep it real. Yeah, well, on that note, I don't think we've got time for ups and downs.
Speaker 1:No, we haven't highs and lows as well. No, because we did it professional.
Speaker 2:We did do a confessional, so anything else you'd like to add to?
Speaker 1:that I was so done.
Speaker 2:Aren't you save me from myself please? You'll be fine. Good night sleep, pop a good food, you'll feel great. And also, let's go for a walk if you need to. We don't have time. I'd make time. We can make time in the evening.
Speaker 1:We could do it like I'm trying to think of a good bit of advice, and it is it'll be alright in the end, and if it's not, then it's not the end. Oh, so that again it'll be alright in the end, and if it's not, then it's not the end love that.
Speaker 2:Thanks, nicole. See you guys tomorrow.
