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Wild Moos
Welcome to Wild Moos, the no-holds-barred podcast where the boardroom meets the playroom.
Hosted by Amy of Mooeys and Nicole from Wild Bird Marketing, this podcast dives into the messy, joyful, and often chaotic life of being a mother and a business owner.
Every episode is a candid exploration of the trials and triumphs that come with juggling spreadsheets and sippy cups.
From start-up stories that defy the "perfect mum" myth to scaling a business without sacrificing sanity, Amy and Nicole share it all.
Expect laughter, tears, and plenty of swear words as they peel back the curtain on what it really takes to thrive in the dual worlds of business and motherhood.
Wild Moos is a community, a confession booth, and your cheerleading squad all rolled into one.
Whether you're knee-deep in nappies, drafting business plans, or just dreaming about what could be, Wild Moos is the podcast for every mum who’s ever had to lock the bathroom door just to answer an email.
Tune in for your regular dose of inspiration, commiseration, and a reminder that you're not alone on this wild ride of entrepreneurship and motherhood.
Wild Moos
Wild Moos Podcast Episode 19: Childlike Wonder and Heartfelt Wisdom with Eight-Year-Old Willow Lewis - From Sickness to Giggles
Ever wondered what goes on in the mind of a child who's caught between the whimsy of childhood and the beginnings of grown-up understanding? Willow Lewis, at the tender age of eight, joins us on Wild Moos to offer a delightful glimpse into her world, where sickness bugs battle against the rare excitement of a Coca-Cola treat and where podcasts are magic shows that teach people to be their best selves.
As Willow navigates through her convalescence with a helping hand in our podcast work, her endearing view of our show as a beacon of kindness and amazement reminds us all to appreciate the simple, yet profound insights children possess.
During our heartwarming exchange, we consciously sidestep the trappings of adult language, opting for the childlike wonder of 'gosh' over our usual expressions. Willow's playful banter about her relationship with her parents, especially her mum, brings a refreshing honesty to the conversation, capturing the humor found in the generational gap through the eyes of youth. So, tune in for an episode that's equal parts wisdom and wit as we chat with Willow, whose perspective might just teach us a thing or two about the goodness within us all.
Nicole Bilham of WildBird Marketing Agency
https://wildbirdmarketing.co.uk/
Amy Lewis of The Mooeys Group
www.mooeys.co.uk | www.mooeysfranchise.co.uk | www.mooskin.co
Okay, so we are super, super lucky today because we're recording a little cheeky tidbit and we have a guest.
Speaker 2:We do have a guest and I'm really excited to have her on the poddy. She's a huge inspiration to me. How about you?
Speaker 1:Huge massive inspiration. I mean, she's a little bit gobby, a little bit cheeky, do you think so? Yeah, I wouldn't have her pinned as cheeky actually. Oh god, yeah, and some. She went away on a brownie camp last weekend that didn't go to plan did it old for brownie camp.
Speaker 2:Isn't she first guest that we've got today? Bang on age who you here.
Speaker 1:Willow Lewis, I didn't make you, I didn't force you, so why are you here? Why are you off school?
Speaker 3:Because I was poorly yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sick bug All good. Now though, nothing a bit coked in and sought out, and Coca-Cola that is.
Speaker 2:We are incredibly privileged to have you.
Speaker 3:Tell us how old you are. Eight years old, almost nine, almost nine, I'm nine in June.
Speaker 2:It's nearly June. When are you? Nine, 21st, one step Nine. I can't believe I've got a nine-year-old. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1:I do love this age, though. It's my favourite age. So she's got a can of Coke in her hand and she's never allowed fizzy drinks or Coke or anything like that. But she didn't eat one thing yesterday, did you? You were vomiting from half past five, tried to eat some banana or toast in the evening and it didn't work, did it no.
Speaker 1:And so we'd done the whole. You know that sickness bug trick where you basically just starve on fluids and that basically just starve on fluids and that. And then, as long as she hadn't been sick for an hour, then she could have a little bit of water, and then, if she wasn't sick for another hour, she'd have a little bit more water, and then, if she wasn't sick, she had a little bit of coke. She spewed that up, so we started again, and then in the in the evening, you ended up being able to keep it down and had a good night's sleep, didn't you?
Speaker 3:and all is good I was able to keep it down for three hours. Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:Done really well, and then she went to bed, woke up this morning famished. Yeah, really hungry yeah but got to keep you off school, so I'm putting her to work. Today she's helped me do some boxes and packing some stuff up. She wrote an email for me earlier, did you To this mic guy? No, not yet. She's good on a Mac though, aren't you? You can find your way around. I love this tasking. Yes, we've got stuff to do today, kiddo, but first we must record.
Speaker 2:So welcome to the podcast, Willow. I'm really keen to understand what you think of what on earth your mother and I are doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you think Wild Moose is all about?
Speaker 2:She just thinks, we have fun.
Speaker 1:It's not like a trick question. You're not going to get anything wrong.
Speaker 3:No, just so you know with your honesty today, I think it's about teaching people how good you can be.
Speaker 2:That's pretty epic.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. Yeah, Do you think we'd be any good at that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Do you why? Because you guys are amazing oh you're an absolute sweetheart. Really.
Speaker 2:It's going to make me cry today. Well, why do you think we're amazing?
Speaker 3:Because you guys are the best and you're very kind.
Speaker 2:Oh nice, that's nice. Thanks, darling, thank you.
Speaker 1:So this is so cute. We haven't prepped Willow for anything, have we? We haven't told you what we're going to ask. We haven't said anything about what we're going to say. You don't even know what a podcast is, do you Not at all? Why? What do you think a podcast is?
Speaker 3:When you tell people about your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, kind of, or your business.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Where do they?
Speaker 2:listen to it. Where do they Spotify?
Speaker 1:yeah, very good, very good, well done there are other platforms available so you understand what podcast is and you know that we come in here, hide away and record and you guys have to be quiet as if you were. Yeah, you think that we help other people feel better about themselves? Yeah, is there anything else you think we do?
Speaker 2:no, no, okay, so mission accomplished I feel, we've done it, yeah, so this is a short recording. We have really big, long ones that are like now seem to be over an hour I don't know who on earth we think we are and then we record little ones which we call titbits as in lalas which are shorter.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that made you chat we were. We're gonna try really hard not to swear, yes, but we are very sweary oh no, you can swear really yeah. No, I don't think we can. I think it would be a little bit inappropriate although it it's already happened, we did swear. Earlier Willow was like oh, that's all right. I hear you saying it all the time I was like oh gosh Epic fail.
Speaker 2:Gosh, gosh. I don't think you've ever said gosh in the whole time I've known you.
Speaker 1:Oh dear. So what do you want to ask, willow? You know I'm with her all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, willow, I would really like to ask you about your parents I know, close your ears, amy, please but in particular your dear old mother.
Speaker 1:This is the old. Well she's old to you, right? Do you think I'm old oh?
Speaker 2:I'm going to look away.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to sway anything you're saying, just say your truth. Don't worry about what I'm going to look away. I'm not going to sway anything you're saying, just say your truth. Don't worry about what?
Speaker 3:I'm Not really, but a bit.
Speaker 2:Little bit old.
Speaker 3:I'll take that, that's all right Like she's that old, but she's older than me, so she's quite old.
Speaker 2:That's factual, quite old.
Speaker 3:Dad's old, dad's very old, dad's really old.
Speaker 1:Did you hear that?
Speaker 2:martin, yes, really old, I'm just quite old, you're really old. No, have you seen his gray hair?
Speaker 1:I've seen his gray hair just just now.
Speaker 2:Get gray hairs from 21, though, yeah oh, geez, I know yeah yeah, so I want to ask you about your dear old mother, because to me she is an inspiration, but I would like to understand what she is to you.
Speaker 3:To me she's quite helpful because she really does a lot around the house.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 3:She's a good cleaner, yeah.
Speaker 2:She's a good cleaner, yeah.
Speaker 3:But she is very rude sometimes. Okay, close your ears, I'm just trying not to hurt her feelings you're right, don't worry.
Speaker 2:you can say you are in a very safe space and you're just talking to me. Ignore that, she's right next to you. I can't do that why? Why is she rude sometimes? Because sometimes she can be a bit bossy, right? Yeah, we do that, though, as mothers. It's like stay behind a pillow.
Speaker 1:I think it works really, really well, I'm going to hide behind a pillow so she can't see my face and worry about what I'm thinking she's a bit bossy, she gets a bit shouty.
Speaker 3:She gets quite shouty Quite. She gets quite shouty, quite shouty. But Dad's way shoutier, he just loses his head. Sometimes he gets very, very stressed out, I mean that is, in his personality type. He gets very stressed out before school.
Speaker 1:It's the gingerness.
Speaker 2:It is the gingerness and that's why you've got it as well, I think, do you have that fire in your belly like lose your temper? Yeah, I feel like you're also quite quick to say sorry, though, if you've done something wrong yeah yeah, how long's quick like.
Speaker 1:Are we talking 24 hours is quick or are we talking an hour because she will? If you've hurt someone's feelings, you don't.
Speaker 3:That's like you really don't like hurting people's feelings, do you?
Speaker 1:But when Willow sees red or hits a rage like Martin, it takes him a while to calm down. I'm the same.
Speaker 2:Willow, I know I'm not ginger, but when I'm angry it takes me a little while to cool off.
Speaker 1:That's okay, as long as you can see what you've done and how you've affected people. I think it doesn't matter, yeah.
Speaker 2:I have another question. You ready, yeah, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker 3:A lot of things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's list them out.
Speaker 3:I'm definitely not going to be a doctor. I don't like all the oozy stuff. No, yeah, that's just no.
Speaker 2:So you don't like squeezing spots.
Speaker 3:No, I would designer.
Speaker 2:What kind of designer Like a clothes or a graphic yeah, clothes. Or graphic A singer yes. Just to revisit that a little bit you are currently going to stagecoach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she loves it, don't you?
Speaker 2:She's been going since she was three and you had a big part recently in something at the school. Was that at the school?
Speaker 1:Oh, you was in the production, weren't you At school?
Speaker 3:God who locks in the three best.
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah, and you remembered all your lines.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, but when you'd done the stagecoach show in March I think that's the one you're thinking of yeah, to do the end of term the Biggie, the Biggie. And you had a really good part in that, didn't you? Because they put you up on the screen and you were talking about the era of that's that one, I think 1950s Lovely.
Speaker 2:What's the best bit about Stagecoach?
Speaker 3:What do you enjoy the most? I like all of it because we do drama, singing and dance. Dance gets really, really tiring because we have to keep repeating it over and over until we completely learn it. Yeah, but normally do we do some really hard steps? Yeah, like kick, step, tap, but we have to do very, very fast you have to do it as fast as you say it, yeah, wow, but even faster and it was quite hard, but normally we get it right.
Speaker 3:But then singing, we always do very good songs and at the moment, because every year we do our own show, then a show with all three groups, because we do stage one, stage two and stage three, and every stage normally does their own show and then we all the next year we all do one show together. Yeah, but when we do like our own show, we're doing that now and our show that we're doing right now. Last time we did it it was Rapunzel, but this time we're doing it. We're doing Sing, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2:I love Sing.
Speaker 3:But stage two, we're doing the worst one.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 3:They're doing Shrek.
Speaker 1:What Are you doing? Sing one or two.
Speaker 3:One.
Speaker 1:I like Sing two better. You don't like Shrek no.
Speaker 3:You don't like Shrek either, don't?
Speaker 2:like.
Speaker 3:Shrek. No, I like it. I like it, but you wouldn't want to perform it. But stage three are doing Legally Blonde because they're the really older ones, really old, no, they're like 18s up to 18. And they're like the teenagers and they're doing Legally Blonde. Legally Blonde is fun. Yeah, they're doing Legally Blonde. Then stage, then stage two, we're doing Shrek and then we're doing Sing, sing One. So out of all of them, I think Shrek would be the worst one because it's agreed. Yeah, I think it would be the worst one because, like, sing and Legally Blonde are quite fun to do, but Shrek gets a bit boring after a while so you want to be a singer Designer?
Speaker 1:What was the other thing you were going to say, model?
Speaker 3:There was a model at one point Is that it yeah model.
Speaker 1:Lovely. She wants to be a supermodel, don't you? With those women legs, those long giraffe legs.
Speaker 2:Those legs are going forever.
Speaker 3:We do our own fashion shows at the house. They do, they put my clothes on and we our own fashion shows at the house. Because they do, they put my clothes on and we also wear our high heels, but we keep our own clothes on underneath sometimes and they just come out and they do what you've done a news show once, didn't you?
Speaker 1:you actually wrote out a whole news show yeah, we do some shows.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we do some shows. Um in the living room to show mommy and daddy that's amazing.
Speaker 2:So do you watch that instead of the television?
Speaker 1:I think yeah I did that time so that as I've got older, that shows are much better many years ago the show defeat piper prancing around like a dancing elephant wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:there was no rhythm to anything. She'd just like blow herself around and then it used to get silly, and then they would get sillier and sillier to extend it, so they didn't have to go to bed. Now, what I love is, as they've got older, willow will put more structure to her show and she will write it, and you will choreograph the whole thing, won't you?
Speaker 3:I used to always put myself at the start of the show. Has that changed since?
Speaker 2:you've got Holder.
Speaker 3:Yes, because I try to make it sort of equal.
Speaker 2:Nice, so you believe in equal rights.
Speaker 3:Don't tell Piper, but most of the time if we hand out sweets like make it equal, I normally have a spare. I normally have way more than her Willow.
Speaker 2:She's wrapping the truth bombs today. That is a massive revelation. Oh poor Piper.
Speaker 1:Poor.
Speaker 2:Piper yeah.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I give her the most amount, but not usually.
Speaker 2:That's part of being an older sister, though, right.
Speaker 1:That's a couple of good careers there. Yeah, there are. So do you not want to do anything in movies? Might take after you, might take after me. I don't know if you were, I think piper probably would oh, no, no, no but you wanted to do like graphic design and stuff, didn't you? And you're like, oh well, if I do design, maybe I can do stuff. Susie does Put her out of a job.
Speaker 2:So shall we do some live feedback on the recording you up for this? I don't know what that means. That means that I'm going to show you something and then I want you to comment on the bits you like and the bits you don't like. Okay, Honesty is the best policy. Okay, Shall we set the scene.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We have done some work together this week, haven't we? We have On Mui's franchise launches.
Speaker 1:So every time there is a new franchise, Nicole comes in with her shiny cape I love it and goes woo To the rescue.
Speaker 1:I'm going to launch your salon with you, yes, and it takes a massive weight off our shoulders, but it also means that it's done, probably better than it's ever been done before, because we've got that one person you focusing on just that. So we've got Winchester launching at the end of July and we're going to work on a six week programme. So once the franchisee is signed, paid, everything's ready to go. In comes Nicole, and Nicole is going to do interviews and get all the content together, get the PR campaigns done and social media set up and everything and launch.
Speaker 2:So this is a six-week launch plan. For an ideal world, we'll always have six weeks, but we may have to pivot and adapt and overcome.
Speaker 1:Well, that's been to a few launches, actually, haven't you? You came to Horsham launch because obviously you weren't born at Farnham. You definitely came to Horsham launch, but you were only a bubba. Piper was in my tummy, I think, oh wow, but Willow was crawling around the floor in Horsham when we went and had a look at the premises and my landlady always asked about you that's really cute.
Speaker 1:And then you came to the Hazelmere launch. Definitely came to that because you had your nails done, you and Piper. I've got a picture of you sat there having your nails done. I don't think you came to Godalming, I did. No, we went and had a pedicure in Godalming, didn't we? We went, had a girly like night away and went and had a treatment at Goderming because that was her request, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Well, you were getting your nails done. I was waiting for mine to dry. I was walking around the place looking at the sweets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course, but you liked Goderming, didn't you? You haven't been to Petersfield, have I? No, you haven't been to Petersfield. You've been to newbury, you know we need to go to petersfield and newsbury, newbury, newsbury and also winchester, I think, because it's summer holidays when we're launching, you might end up coming down for that.
Speaker 2:That'd be quite cool so I am going to hand you the pack that we have created. What this is the pack? Oh, so you can look at on the phone. What's a pack? This is the pack. It's a launch pack.
Speaker 1:So it's a document. It's a document, oh, okay, that Nicole has put together and created so you can have a look through it.
Speaker 2:See what you think. See what you think While she's doing that.
Speaker 1:How was your week? It's really good. I went to my full moon ceremony last night. How old at the moon, you naked. Uh. The lovely katie godfrey came this one as well. It was amazing and I was really close to not going. Well, I was poorly, yeah, and I. It was like you know that you're in that moment. You're like I have to choose being a mum or choose myself, and I've been all day.
Speaker 1:Yesterday I had the really important interview yesterday so she was amazing for that and I was like I'm really sorry, but if you are puking, I just need you to be quiet while I'm doing this. I did pre-warn them, but they were not the kind of people that I could cancel or postpone, no. And she came back and she was like I was really quiet. It's amazing. It was only half an hour, but you know, I was with her all day yesterday and and when she was leaving.
Speaker 3:I was literally crying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was really sad and normally Willow's quite a tough nut, aren't you? Because you're so used to me working. She's so used to that like from a very young age. She was in nursery, I think for six months, yeah, so she's always been very used to you know both parents, yeah, taking on the responsibility. But yesterday was really tough because I was with her all day from half five in the morning and then when I went out I was like I phoned Martin on the way there and I was like do you think I should turn around and come back?
Speaker 1:do like show the mum in me was like I just want to hold her because she's sad and not and not feeling well, but then the other side moves up.
Speaker 1:I really need this, you really needed it after, especially after this week yeah, and you know, because it's a monthly thing, you sat there and went round and how's everyone's month been? Is everyone struggling to sleep because of full moon and stuff, like having those conversations? Yes, um, and I just said like this last month I feel like I've made decisions I don't feel necessarily qualified to make, but I've had to make them. I feel like I have had to put on my big girl pants way more than I ever would do, naturally, or want to. I just feel like I've been making decisions that it's been so much and so intense.
Speaker 2:You are way way out of your comfort zone okay, got it yeah, you ready ready for feedback.
Speaker 3:Okay, hits up so I like how it's very colorful and on this bit, I like how it's got like a nice chart yes, yeah, social media yeah yeah, and that I like how it's very detailed and on like the flowers and stuff, yes that's the social advertising campaign, and then it gets really wordy, doesn't it? I like how you put like these movies signs on every logo's, on every one mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is there's consistent brand identity.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what I don't like is how wordy it is, yeah. I like reading, but I don't like reading that much text, that much. No, yeah, I think you've added too many cows.
Speaker 2:Yes, so the cows are placeholders, highland cows, they are highland coos. They are placeholders for when we actually get headshots of people. Do you know what a headshot is?
Speaker 3:Yeah, what is it? Is it like a picture of their head?
Speaker 2:Yeah, is it like a picture of their head? Yeah, photo, well done photo. Any any other tips or pointers or things that we need to apply to the pack? I thought that was epic feedback. What do you think?
Speaker 1:brilliant. So then every new franchisee would get that document willow so that they know what the process is going to be, so that before they launch, it's really slick, isn't?
Speaker 3:it. One more thing that I really like yeah I like that you've put like some these like emoji kind of things, yeah, like an icon, yeah, infographic, these things.
Speaker 1:There we go yeah, that does look cool. She's very good at design work, isn't she? Yeah, do you know any more about what marketing actually means by looking at that one?
Speaker 3:yes, do you what are you thinking? I'm thinking it means like I don't know how to explain it just give it a step. I think it means like. I think marketing means like, like release information about your business.
Speaker 2:yeah, pretty good description, well, Wildbird marketing we release info about your business Go. That's what it says on the tin. That's the epic. Well done, Thanks.
Speaker 1:Wales. What do you think about movies? Thank you, because you've obviously known movies your whole life.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What do you think about it?
Speaker 3:Awesome.
Speaker 1:Do you? What do you love about it?
Speaker 3:I love how they book it and then you get to do their nails, yeah, and stuff, and I like how you're very, very good at it. I like how you're the business owner, do you? Because we're like in our four or five, including actually seven.
Speaker 1:Or five, including ten, actually seven oh the hamsters, hamsters.
Speaker 3:I like how Dad and you are both bosses. Yeah, it makes me feel like that I'm going to be a boss when I grow up.
Speaker 1:You can be. Yeah, Of course you can. You don't have to be, but you can be.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, but I like how you two are both bosses.
Speaker 1:Does it bother you that we're both self-employed or we're both in charge of companies? No, no, because we work hard, don't we work lots and lots, yes, yes nodding her head. Yeah, microphone can't sit, can't detect your head nod yes. So what do you think is the hardest thing about having a mum that's got a business?
Speaker 3:The hardest thing For you? Yeah, the hardest thing is probably you have to spend quite a lot of time on the business, and most mums like Susie. She doesn't have to work as much, so she spends way more time with Nate, her child. Yeah, thanks for the clarification, but you don't spend as much time with us that Susie does with Nate, and that's quite hard, because we really like spending time with you. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:Are you getting emotional? How come? I don't know, don't know. I love spending time with you. Yeah, me too. Do you think? Sometimes I put the business before you guys. Sometimes yeah, sometimes I feel like I have to and it's a really hard choice because I want to choose you guys. I also have this business to set up, and then I hope that one day it creates enough freedom and money for me to spend even more time with you. But I don't want to miss out on you growing up either.
Speaker 3:But I understand how you have to spend quite a lot of time on the business because we need more money.
Speaker 2:We do To do the wonderful things that you like to do as a family as well, and to do more of the stuff that you love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always wonder whether, if I had a full-time job, whether I'd see the kids more or less. I'd probably see you less if I had a full-time job and had to travel an hour each way.
Speaker 2:Can I comment on that? So, knowing you as well as I do now, you throw your all into everything, which is wonderful for the business owner of whatever job you would be working for, but you're never going to change your personality.
Speaker 1:No, You're absolutely dedicated to whatever it is. God. I worked at Centreparts. All the time I worked at Centreparts, didn't I?
Speaker 2:For three years. Well, Angelina's mum works at Centreparts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she does, yeah, I worked there for two or three years. That was before children, guess what?
Speaker 3:What? Angelina's mum? Angelina gets quite a lot of trips at centre parks Because her mum works there. She gets like so many trips.
Speaker 1:That's cool. Yeah, that's why she's working there as well, though she works there part time because, I mean, the perks are incredible. I think she does a couple of days a week and you get day passes.
Speaker 2:Imagine when there is a movies in Bedford. Oh yeah, Imagine.
Speaker 3:There's a shop down the road and it's literally buried up, but it's also quite close to a car park.
Speaker 1:Yeah, handy, very handy, but it would be very good to have a moviesobys here, yeah, yeah, because then you could do like your birthday parties in there and stuff.
Speaker 2:And we could do our birthday parties in there as well. Do you know?
Speaker 1:what? When I was at Newbury the other day and they showed me some pictures. They do loads of kids' birthday parties in Newbury and some salons do more than the others, you know, and she's got so much space it's perfect for it and I always think I feel a bit sad that there's not one.
Speaker 1:There's not one here, because even if moose was of my brand I would still, so would I pay for six kids to go and have nails done as a birthday party? Because of how much birthday parties cost. Why don't you do that? Yeah? And you're supporting a local business. It's not oh, yeah, I just want to know, like what I suppose for me. I wanted to know what you thought of mu is how it affects you that I've got this business you haven't asked me that question what?
Speaker 1:what you think of mu is no. How does it affect you? How does it affect you?
Speaker 3:how does it affect me? I'm happy, yeah, because it's a goodness. I'm also sad because I'm, but I'm mostly happy for you.
Speaker 1:Are you? You're mostly happy for me. What about the family? Do you think that Muiz will be massive one day?
Speaker 3:Yes, do you Gigantic?
Speaker 1:Really, how gigantic do you see? Gigantuan, gigantuan. That's huge. How big do you think it's going to get? 5,000. You think I'm going to have 5,000 salons.
Speaker 3:Wow All over the world. Oh, my goodness, I really hope you get one in Venezuela, though. Why? Oh, okay, because Venezuela is very pretty. Yes, also, maybe where's that place we were trying to get on holiday? Portugal, portugal. It's very pretty, very pretty in Portugal, portugal.
Speaker 2:It's very pretty, very pretty in Portugal.
Speaker 1:So you think we need 5,000 mummies all over the world, and then we're going to spend our lives travelling around visiting all these mummies sometimes are we. And do you think we're going to get there? I mean, I've never put it as that big, but why not? But I'm definitely going to need your help for that yeah, okay yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to give me a hand.
Speaker 3:No, I mean like that's 5 000 times as big as movies as now, not 5 000 times, okay, just 5 000 times as big as it is now, so like how? Mcdonald's big a bit like that yeah okay, like just a bit yeah
Speaker 1:like a movies. Do you think we need a movies in every town?
Speaker 3:no, no, oh, because then it'll be a bit too many movies, because sometimes if you have too many of one business, it gets a bit of a handful interesting insights yeah, but if you have like a middle amount, yeah, not too less, yeah, not too much, yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker 3:Yes, like a balance yeah, yeah, because then you don't have to deal with a small amount. Yeah, you also don't have to deal with a big amount and you don't have to do as much work yeah, hopefully I'll have a team that'll do it all anyway, won't I and you?
Speaker 1:I mean, I've only got 10 years to wait for you to leave school or education. Yeah, do you think you're going to go to university?
Speaker 3:uni, yeah, yes, wow, I think I might also go to college okay, yeah, you could choose e1 or the other, or both.
Speaker 1:Do you think you're? Going to travel much when you're older. Yes, yeah, where in the world do you want to travel to?
Speaker 3:brazil. Yes mate.
Speaker 1:Yes venezuela hawaii.
Speaker 3:Hawaii is on mine and daddy's yeah I'm going to hawaii, I will take you if we go, no matter what I'm going to hawaii we're going to go and see those big waves, aren't we? Oh, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, and if any other countries are discovered, because we haven't discovered every country in the world, have we not?
Speaker 2:No, okay, we still have to discover loads yeah, Ah okay, we have to discover loads. You're going to be an explorer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Should we add that to the job list.
Speaker 1:We want to go to Japan as well, don't we? Do we? Yeah, we've talked about it because we've got in the dining room, haven't we? We've got a world map and we talk about all the different places we want to go and what we want to explore.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I want to go Italy. Yeah, I haven't Just because of pizza or because you want to see the country. Oh no, I want to see the Eiffel Tower as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, do you.
Speaker 3:Paris, paris. I'm going to Paris. It's actually in the top three of the most romantic places in the world. Paris, it's.
Speaker 1:Paris. When did me and Daddy got engaged in Paris?
Speaker 3:I think it's the second most.
Speaker 2:Oh, what's the first, of first I have no clue, but I yeah, probably Rome.
Speaker 3:We'll research that shall we.
Speaker 1:We've been talking, myself and Martin recently and I'll see how you feel about this, because I think we said I had the opportunity to go to Bali for a month in August and I the idea was like, oh my gosh, that would be amazing, but I just don't know if I can put it out of the bag this year. But also, as much as I would love to go to Bali with the kids, martin wouldn't be able to go because he's working and I just didn't like the idea of him being at home. But also, we've always talked about the dream life is that we work really hard, we'll do what we need to do, but then every year we have a month out where we travel and explore a new country, and this is something we've always wanted to do. Wow, and I'd love to do it and I said, if we're going to do that.
Speaker 3:I want to explore it with him and as a family.
Speaker 1:So we're going to try. And because I spoke to the girls about bali, didn't I? When I was in the car and I was like what do you think, would you?
Speaker 3:want to go. It's quite expensive it's really expensive.
Speaker 1:It looks like a thousand for flights, but it was like when we were there. So I said, well, how do we feel about? Let's do Portugal this year just for like 10 days, but next year let's focus on seeing what we need to do in our businesses. To go to Bali for a month next year Perfect.
Speaker 2:I think it's a lovely idea, do you? Yeah, really nice.
Speaker 3:What do you think, wilbur, that I like the name Wilbur.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:I think it's quite a good idea.
Speaker 1:Quite Imagine exploring a whole country together, or Indonesia together as a family. It'd be wicked, wouldn't it? Very?
Speaker 2:cool, yeah, so there we go. I have got one more question. Okay, there's one person that we haven't spoken about much. On this little tip for your sister. No, thanks, a little bit. She'll be sad to have missed out on this. She'd love a chat. She does love a chat, chat, chat. Any thoughts on sister vibes?
Speaker 1:what do you mean? You guys are very different, aren't you very different? What do you think your biggest differences are? You're calm, she's not. Willow can be very calm and you can have long conversations, but I think that's an age thing as well yeah, probably gets very bored easily. She just talks over everybody, doesn't she?
Speaker 2:She just keeps talking and talking and talking and hoping for someone to listen.
Speaker 3:She's a very chatty parrot.
Speaker 2:Chatty parrot. She has a lot of love to give as well.
Speaker 1:She is an absolute love muffin, isn't she? She loves really hard.
Speaker 3:I have one thing that's very the same about us that whenever we person's rude to one of you two, you or dad, or both the other child is very nice and kind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, except if one person's in trouble, the other one tends to be on best behaviour.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good. It's helpful, so we don't have to deal with two horrors at the same time.
Speaker 3:But sometimes we can both be mean at the same time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's just being kids and families, isn't it? But you will always stick up for each other at school, though, won't you? If one of you's having a hard time, the other one will always step in and talk to the friends.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Piper used to get very, very bullied at school by this boy. Yeah, she had a really tough time, didn't she, yeah, and she also got bullied by these other two boys and I saw them literally trying to kick Piper, trying to hurt her so much. I saw her sometimes crying in the playground. So I went up to these three bullies and I was like not cool guys. And I was just, and if Piper was fighting back for them, I was literally like stop it. No, you are not doing this.
Speaker 2:No, I think that's really really cool. Good big sister vibes, isn't it it?
Speaker 1:is. But then also, Willow was having a few struggles with friends, weren't you? And Piper was like let me talk to them, I'll help, I'll help. And she did, didn't she?
Speaker 2:Oh bless her.
Speaker 1:She went and tried to. They'd had a fallout and she went and told this other girl that she was wrong and that Willow hadn't done what she was upset about.
Speaker 2:That's so sweet.
Speaker 3:And when we set in the house and Piper's like I'm just going to tell her, I'll tell her. It's not true, no, no.
Speaker 2:And then she actually went and was like it's not true, you're wrong, no, you're wrong.
Speaker 3:She's not done anything. You're wrong, she's not. That's so sweet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she is. She's a good egg, isn't she? Yeah, she's a good egg. And also, the one thing you do have in common is family comes first yes, we do have that very same family always comes first. Family with family george is a bit like family uh thing is because they're friends and, like you know, my friends are like my family, yeah, and I hold very few people very, very close.
Speaker 3:I have this they have the same relationships for their friends and I think they see it, piper has a friend called Lola and they are very close.
Speaker 1:They're going to get married one day they're going to get married and have ten babies, apparently, and they're all going to go and live with Lola's parents because I should have not had the babies of mine. So apparently Lola told her mum she has to saving for the van for when the sun is it's.
Speaker 3:Maybe they'll need a bloody bus, but they yeah, but I have a friend called georgia and me and her very, very close. We play together literally every second we have and we make up these dances and we really enjoy doing it and we always practice and we're just like really, really, really close and we've known each other since we were two yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But also, the main thing you and your sister have in common is how kind you are. You're both very, very kind little humans. Yes, you are and I absolutely adore that about you one of my favourite things about you actually how kind you are. And on that note, have you got anything you want to say to us or anything you want to ask?
Speaker 3:us. Do you guys find your life hard as an adult? Yeah, yeah, why?
Speaker 1:Responsibility Decisions. Having to care for others why, responsibility, decisions, having to care for others and having to put other people first all the time is really tough when sometimes you just want to put yourself first, but also decisions, responsibilities. Being a kid it feels tough at the time and throughout your teenage years will feel really tough. But when you're an adult, all you want to do sometimes is go back to having someone taking care of you, changing your bed for you, cleaning up after you, feeding you being a good housekeeper like you are.
Speaker 1:I would love a housekeeper and someone to feed me two or three times a day.
Speaker 3:I would as well sometimes I make you breakfast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do, yeah, sometimes you do on the weekend coffee as well I feel like how many hats have you got? How many different hats do you think? That you put on your head a couple of hats, yeah, so how I feel being an adult sometimes is like having to wear 30 different hats all at the same time and each hat has a different role, if you like. Like how you've got roles in Sing. There's different characters.
Speaker 1:Each one of those different hats represents a different character, and sometimes I find that really, really hard so one minute you're a cleaner and a cook, and then you're a mum, and then you're a wife, and then you're a business owner, and then you're a friend and a sister and a sister and everything has to have a different job and an auntie, and sometimes it's really tough. But but then also, when we create incredible humans like you and we look after incredible humans like you Right, I'm sorry, incredible.
Speaker 1:You are. You are incredible, but when we do that, I feel like it's a bit magical, it is, and I feel like that's one of the most important things ever Mm-hmm, and watching you grow up into the amazing human that you are. Oh God, it's so beautiful to watch.
Speaker 2:It is an absolute privilege, isn't it? Unless when we're naughty, yeah well.
Speaker 1:And it melts away. It doesn't last long. I don't hold a grudge for long either. You're an arsehole, you're an arsehole. And then the next day we'll get over it and be back to normal again.
Speaker 3:Not the next day, because you don't like me going to sleep.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't like going to sleep. No, you're angry. No, but you know what? The last row we had you done that to me, didn't you? Because I was so angry with your behaviour. But you came into me and said I can't go to bed angry, I won't sleep. And then it's just. Then you're just even angrier the next day, aren't you? Yeah, it's not worth it well, willow.
Speaker 2:Thank you for joining us. Thanks for your time. Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1:yeah, good love you willow. Char lewis, I love you too both of you keep shining, bright darling.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, bye.
