Inspiring Good

Scott Griffey On Building A Food Bank

Community Foundation of Elkhart County Episode 33

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We talk with Scott Griffey about how a small weekend backpack effort for hungry students grows into Gymtown Food Bank, Elkhart County’s newest and only food bank. We trace the real mechanics of fighting food insecurity, from door-to-door deliveries during COVID to countywide partnerships that move food faster and with more dignity. 

• teachers spotting hunger first and asking for help 
• backpack meals evolving into doorstep food boxes 
• growth pains that force nonprofit structure and a board 
• what “food desert” means in daily life and tough trade-offs 
• Hunger Ends Here building trust and sharing resources 
• the difference between a food pantry and a food bank 
• transportation as a linchpin including shared cargo vans 
• Scott’s leadership roots, mentors, and the power of saying yes 
• what gives hope that no neighbor goes hungry in Elkhart County 

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

Marshall King

Welcome to the Inspiring Good Podcast. This podcast is brought to you by the Community Foundation of Elkart County, which serves a vibrant community in northern Indiana, known for its generosity and strong network of nonprofit organizations. I'm Marshall King, your co-host with Kevin Deary, a veteran nonprofit CEO who now coaches others. Today our guest is Scott Griffey, founder of Gymtown Food Bank, Elkhart's County's newest and only food bank. Welcome, Scott.

From Backpacks To Door Knocking

Kevin Deary

Scott, it's good to have you on the podcast. We're so pleased to have you, and also for Jimtown, that is such a unique little part of our county. Very historical, great basketball. And we'll get back to basketball later on. But right now, let's talk about the Gymtown food bank because you guys do the food pantry. You do such great work. So in 2020, you and Kim, your wife got together and decided there was a need, and you decided to start passing out donation food boxes. Tell me about how it started.

Scaling Up Into A 501c3

Scott Griffey

So it started a couple years before that. We had some friends that were teachers in the Jimtown system, and they found out that some of their students were coming to school on Monday mornings and they were hungry. Either they had eaten very little or not, you know, nothing through the whole weekend. So they came to us and said, Hey, how can we how can we help with this problem? So we got together some friends of ours and we started taking in food on a Friday afternoon in a backpack that a student could take home and get them through the weekend. And that started with six students, and the numbers kept growing until we were into the 20s that were happening. And then COVID came along and the school system shut down. We knew that there were hungry kids out there, hungry families, but we couldn't even get their addresses because of privacy rules. So we had already been going to a small little food bank out in the country called God's Closet. And we we loved going out there and we'd pick up food instead of paying it out of our pocket, we were able to get some free food. So it was pretty exciting for us, especially as all the couples that were paying for this out of their pocket. So we had already started accumulating some food at this time. And so when the school system shut down, we were still able to get free food. And our garage was filling up with some food. And one day, my wife said, we just need to put these boxes of food together and go knock on doors. So at the scariest part of COVID, we didn't think anybody would answer a door. We didn't know what to expect. And we were surprised. People did answer the door, and we got statements from, hey, we're doing fine. Thank you. Give it to someone who needs it more. But we also got hugs and tears. We've been out of work. We have no food in the house. Our kids have nothing to eat. Why are you here? Thank you very much. So that first time it cemented in us the idea of, okay, we've got to continue doing this, and we'll just figure it out from here. We didn't know what we were doing.

Kevin Deary

So at what point did you decide we need to be a 501c3? We need to really get more organized. And then the buildings came on your property. Tell me about that.

Scott Griffey

So during all this time, we moved into a new house that my wife and I built. Took us two years to build, and we we began storing food at this property. And as the numbers grew, as the food kept coming in, we were giving food to more families on every weekend. And so what happened was we had to become organized. Instead of just doing it when we wanted to and what fit into our schedule, we had friends saying, Let us help. How can we help? So we started to become more organized. And as we were handing out more and more food, it came, it just somebody said, Hey, do you need to maybe do this officially? And so we said, I guess. I don't think we're going to do this for very long, but we'll we'll do this officially. And so it just kept growing and kept growing. And our I've got a pole barn that we built for our grandkids, and it started filling up with food, and we had another two other outbuildings that I had to remove my tractor and lawnmower and filling it up with food. And we got some racking, pallet racking, and a forklift, and we started looking like Costco, and the numbers just kept growing. And the volunteers, people kept saying, How can we help? Let us help you, let us help you. And we kept getting more food and more food and more food, and it just kept growing. And we didn't plan any of that.

Kevin Deary

So now your buildings are full, your garage is full, you have lots of food. You now have a brand new 51c3, and you to get that, you had to organize a board. Yes. So usually when nonprofits start, it's made up of friends and family. That's the board. And that's very common. That they're your biggest fan club support. But that's not gonna that's not sustainable. That that over the long haul, long after you and Kim aren't doing this min this ministry slash miss mission anymore, if it's going to continue, it really depends on this strong core of volunteers and this really strong dedicated group of owners. Which the board of directors are. So what's the plan to sustain it after you guys?

Scott Griffey

Well, we have currently we have board members that have been there from the beginning. They've been either they were some of the first people that were helping with the backpack meals, or people that have come on board since. And so they've been huge, and they're, you know, they're they're people that have businesses, so they understand business, and they help to keep things rolling with everything. We currently have a we were able to hire our first-time full employee, and Randy Z is his name, and he was one of the original founders of Cultivate, and he showed up one day and said, Hey, I like what you're doing. Can I help you here? So we've got qualified staff that is way beyond anything I ever expected. And we've got plans. I mean, we're older. Kim and I are both 67, but we've figured another five or so years. But in the meantime, we're looking for that person that God's gonna send us who's gonna replace us that will keep the vision and keep it going.

Marshall King

So, Scott, you I've heard you say, you know, I'm just a guy. I'm just a guy doing this thing. I've got seven kids. What'd you say? 23 grandkids.

Scott Griffey

23 grandkids. Three great grandkids.

Marshall King

You spent your career installing flooring, right? Yes, blue collar guy working in it on it, probably literally on your hands and knees. Yes. What compels a person to say, I gotta take food to people's houses, or I gotta get enough food to feed these kids to the to the degree that you have. Like that's it's not a normal thing to follow a call the way that you have.

Scott Griffey

Okay, well, having seven kids and installing flooring, business is always up and down. Sometimes it's feast or famine, and during the famine times it got tough. And feeding the kids, and we would have periodically, there would be a friend or another group of people that would show up at our house and they'd like fill our living room full of food, which was incredible. That was like the only time the kids got name brand food or that special, exciting stuff. So we knew what that was like to have somebody come and help you and to bring food. And because of that, when we would have times of feast, we then would share with other people that had needs around us. So we'd hear somebody struggling, so we'd just show up and with food and fill up their pantry, fill up their closets, give them stuff for kids' meals for lunchtime, things like that. And so that's kind of been who we are. But God just really made this clear that here here is a community of Jimtown. It's not huge, it's like it's not an overwhelming thing. Let's see what we can do to help people within the Jimtown community. And the doors just started opening. Again, not knowing what I'm doing. Connections were made, people stepped forward and say, we can help you, we've got food, let's let's keep you supplied with food. We like what you're doing. And so it's it's kind of been something that's a part of our lives for a long time. It's just gotten huge right now.

What A Food Desert Means

Kevin Deary

You know, the teachers are always the front line of defense. They see everything. Yes. So they see abused children, they see children don't have winter coats, they see hungry kids. It certainly impacts the children's ability to learn. And the teachers are often the ones that raise the first flag and say, hey, we need help here above and beyond what a school is really required or has the capacity to do. Right. You guys answered that that flag and said, We're gonna help. But then that's really identified just in the last five or six years in Elkirk County, these food deserts. And we hear that often, food desert. But what does food desert mean to you?

Scott Griffey

Well, there are there are sections of the area that just people have a hard time getting out, whether they're in a car on their last leg, whether they're trying to work several jobs and they just don't have time to get food, and there are people that they're exchanging, they're they're making a choice sometimes between heating the house, putting gas in the car, even uh prescription medications, they're having to make those choices, and food seems to be at the bottom. So even having access to food for some people is just difficult, and it ends up becoming food at the 7-Eleven or food at gas station or fast food, and we're even losing the art of cooking, which leads to a whole nother somewhere down the road. But so to me, it's it's available food by people who are already worn out, tired, necessarily, you know, tr struggling to make all the ends meet, and then to think I've got to go buy food. That's just hard.

Kevin Deary

Well, we live in the RV capital of the world, right? So when we're selling RVs and making RVs, everybody's making money, everybody's doing okay. But as soon as the RV cycles down again, which it it it almost always does, and then it cycles back up, you have a lot of families, whether it's single moms or you have uh mom and dad often in a home where they're only working one or two days a week, and they've they're pick they've picked up do you know Uber driving or DoorDash or something just to make ends meet, and they're still not making ends meet. And things are so expensive now with gas. I thought your definition of food desert was probably one of the best I've ever heard. And we started to connect the dots several years ago in this county with how much hunger really is there, and not just in pockets, but everywhere. And many of the organizations have started to come together. Can you talk a little about the initiative that you guys have started with Hunger Ends Here?

Scott Griffey

Okay, well, Hunger Ends Here has been a pretty substantial group of people that the community foundation brought together. There's about 15 different organizations. Some deal with housing, some deal with food, mostly with food. And when we first came together, it was a lot of nonprofits who never cooperated. They kind of all did their own thing separately and did it well. And when I can remember the first couple meetings, I'm the new guy on the block. Nobody even heard of Jimtown Pantry at the time. And everybody kind of just were like a little bit of an arm's distance. I don't know what's happening here. I don't know how we can work together. And with it's been over a year now, and now we're working together in incredible ways. So we're sharing resources. If I have something extra, I'll call up a guy that I know could use some of that. And so we'll send a truck over or they'll call me and say, hey, we've got this extra over here. Even forklifts, somebody had a forklift, and now we're sharing vehicles, we're donating things back and forth to each other. Because the goal is that everybody has enough, and I don't need to hang on to everything that I have. If I have extra, let me share it with somebody. So we found a lot of organizations that came together, and now we're looking at each other as help, let's help each other instead of let's keep an arm distance away from each other. I don't trust you, I don't know what to do with you. But now it's like a giant group hug that we've figured out let's help each other.

Kevin Deary

And maximizing everybody's strengths and assets, which is so important. And it's really special about Elkirk County is the willingness to come together and to build initiatives and to build trust amongst organizations. A lot of times food pantries are run out of churches, and there's a lot of churches in the food pantry business, but they're not on the transportation business, they're not on the storage business. They're all they all have some kind of challenges, usually transportation, getting food to them or getting food to people, or or it's required that people bring their their cars to come get the food from the pantry. The problem is when their car breaks down, yeah, and they're and they they still have these hunger issues. And is there any thought about maybe growing this and adding some partners that could maybe help with broken cars and help with understanding how to manage money and any thoughts of expanding the initiative?

Scott Griffey

Well, there's a there's a lot of thoughts in that. And having started working full-time and trying to figure out what a pantry is and what a pantry does, I understand it's mainly volunteers who make this happen. There are some paid staff members, but it's mainly volunteers that are working hard just to make life happen, and then all of a sudden now we're feeding other people. So all of those things, like even storage of food, once they get it, how long can you know that's a that's a problem. How do they get the food? So we have we currently have pantries that show up, and they will show up in a Honda Civic or a small SUV, and they have to load all of this food up into that and make multiple trips, and they're volunteering their time. They don't have the extra time to do all that. So that's one aspect, and we can come back to that. But following up on your question, there are some of our organizations that help with financial. How do you do that? There are some that help with parenting. So now we can work together with that. There is discussion about us starting up a teaching kitchen in our location. And having Randy Z there, he has a he's a chef. He he taught students at the crossing how to cook, and he has a lot of food background. So there's a possibility that we start up a food training kitchen at our facility. And that's because of another organization that came to us and said, Hey, I heard you might have interest in this, and we're gonna do this, so maybe we can work together.

Marshall King

So, Scott, you started as a food pantry.

Scott Griffey

Yes.

Marshall King

And now you're a food bank.

Scott Griffey

Yes.

Marshall King

Explain to people what the difference is.

Scott Griffey

Okay, so a food pantry gets food directly to people. So whether most pantries operate where someone will come and check in and then they walk through a line and they pick out the food that they want, and then they can leave. That's how most of them operate. Again, we didn't know what we were doing, so we started delivering food directly to people, and which opened up all kinds of incredible things that we never expected, like developing relationships with people, getting to know them, getting to know their kids, getting to pray with them. We'll find out what's going on in their life. There's many times that we'll show up at a house and they'll say, I'm glad you're here. This happened this week, and we knew that you guys would pray with us. So that's a food pantry, getting food directly to people. A food bank, which we have just started up, that gets food directly to pantry or to pantries and other organizations. We also have early learning centers that are coming. ADEC has been out to uh pick up some food, and there's just organizations now that are feeding people. We're able to get food to them. So the difference between a pantry, you get food directly to people, a food bank gets food to the organizations that are distributing the food.

Kevin Deary

You mentioned cultivate. Cultivate's been has just exploded here. Yes, and filled a huge void. They deal with food with 18 wheelers that are constantly bringing food to them that they then disperse out. And cultivate's starting to grow even more. They're looking at growing into Fort Wayne, growing into other areas because they're just very well known and they do a really good job of food. Really good job of food. They've been a kind of a central cog in all this, and all the other hub and spokes have plugged into cultivate. When you see your time working with cultivate and you see particularly the areas of transportation, that's still an area I'm a little on. How does the food, unless you're bringing it to them, tell me how all this food gets into the hands of those who need it the most, and how do the food banks and food pantries get all this food?

Scott Griffey

Okay. So even before we opened up Gymtown Food Bank, we we developed a collaboration between Milford Food Bank and Cultivate. And our goal was that once we get up and running, and Milford was in the middle of uh building a brand new building, and once we get up and running, we're gonna have, I think it was like 30,000 square feet of space that will be newly available to be able to receive food and collect food. And so we the three of us made a commitment to help each other out and to figure out how if I need something and they have it, we can get it back and forth. So there is delivery of huge semi-loads that come to either my location, cultivate, or Milford, and we share among those loads as to as to what comes in based upon what their needs are. And then the goal is to be able to get it directly to the organizations that get out the food. Okay. So we have so there's this big step, like the high level of there's this massive food out there that's available. How do we get that? Then it comes to Milford Cultivate or Jimtown, and we then distribute the food to pantries, organizations that are getting food out to individuals. And once we had the collaboration up and running, Thor Industries heard what we were doing, and they came forward and said, Listen, how can we help? Which is the best question that people can ask is how can we help? And so we had a couple things that we needed, and they said, Oh, that's not it, that's not it. And when we got to transportation, they said, That's it. We can help you with that. So they donated two cargo vans, brand new cargo vans, to the Hunger Ends Here collaboration. And they're now housed at Gymtown Food Bank. And so those are used by those pantries that would show up with the little Honda Civic. They can now just reserve that vehicle, they can pick out their food, they can load up that van. And instead of their Honda Civic three times, four times, they can take the food to their pantry and then bring it back. And just today, we just kind of got started with that. Just today, there were four different food pantries that were using those vans after they picked up their food to take their food back.

Transportation Solutions And Shared Vans

Kevin Deary

That's amazing. But it just it just takes sometimes one linchpin in there, like the transportation, to bring it all together like that. And thank you for being willing to house the vans and coordinate the schedules and all that. Let's learn about you, Scott. Okay. We know how you started this ministry, but what did you do for a living and what did Kim do?

Scott Griffey

So I've installed flooring for 45 years and had big commercial jobs to little bathrooms in a house. I've done it all. And we've been in my wife, she she was a stay-at-home mom with seven kids, and we homeschooled our kids through the fourth grade. And so she had plenty to do with all of that. And now she and then as soon as the kids got off all school, she started cleaning homes for a living. And she's still doing some of that, not as much, because of her involvement at she's now the director of Jimtown Pantry. So she's taken that part over. And so she's busy with all of that. So we've all I've always been involved in men's ministry. I I train I train men to lead wilderness trips to Canada where you drink out of the lake and you backpack everything and you canoe everywhere. And I've been involved with that for almost 35 years doing things like that. And we've just always been involved in people's lives. We've always been involved in caring for people, loving people. And so, in a sense, this is just an extension of that, just a little bit more focused in the food area. I've so I have seven kids, was mentioned earlier, and they're all boys except the first six. So that's the best joke I have. And so I coach girls basketball for 14 years. I've coached girls softball and a little bit of soccer and everything else. We've just been involved in our kids' lives and the lives of people around us.

Kevin Deary

And now you have 23 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. Correct. Uh you, you know, you're you're a pretty tall guy. What are you about? 6'6, 6'7? 6'5. 6'5. You look bigger than that. So you look obviously you probably played basketball in high school. I did. Yes, I did. Were you ever recruited?

Scott Griffey

Yes. I I was recruited to play some college ball.

Kevin Deary

Did you ever go get recruited by anybody noteworthy? Noteworthy. Somebody that our audience would know.

Scott’s Story Faith And Leadership

Scott Griffey

So it would have been back when I was a junior in high school, I got this letter from a coach and uh for West Point. He was a coach at West Point. And I was interested in that. And he came to the house and he went to my dad's restaurant. We had lunch at my dad's restaurant at the time and came to my school. And at the time, he really wasn't anybody special, just a young guy.

Kevin Deary

I only know two coaches. One was Bobby Knight at West Point. So it wasn't Bobby. It wasn't Bobby. That'd have been the other one.

Scott Griffey

It was the other one. Who would that have been? That would have been Coach K at the time. In fact, it was Coach Kshewsky, which you couldn't say at the time. But it was Coach K. And that was a lot of fun. And West Point. Well, you still got the haircut for West Point. I do.

Marshall King

Where'd you end up playing? Did you play college ball then?

Scott Griffey

I did. I ended up going to a small Bible college out in Pennsylvania and ended up playing out there. But I went through the whole process, was accepted to go to West Point, and at the last minute, change of plans. And literally at 17 years old, I made a difficult decision, which led to all this. Because if I would have gone to West Point, I would have been a career military guy. I would not have had seven kids. I I just my life would have been completely different. And I have no idea how I made that decision, but God just said, I want you to do this instead.

Kevin Deary

We have these, all of us have these interesting forks in our life. If we choose this way, it leads to one life. If we choose this way, it leads to another life, and we don't really know which path God has us on. Right. Clearly, I think that Elker County won by having you and Kim settle here. Let me ask a question about general leadership. Sure. So you're a you're a strong leader. Leader at the home, leader of the church, leader in the nonprofit world. You've earned all that. You're humble, you're in everything that you do. But who was your mentor?

Scott Griffey

I had a great dad. And he had Alzheimer's at the end. And my mom cared for him 24-7. And now we're caring for her with some of the same same issues. So my dad was just an incredible man. Everyone loved my dad. He was involved in everything that we did. He he like was our youth group director at all of our churches that we went to. And he was incredibly loved by everybody. And wherever he worked, he was in the food business his whole life. He just drew people. So he was a model to me of how to love people, how to make people feel special, how to care for people. So he would have been like my main mentor. But there have been other mentors throughout my life that someone come alongside me for several years and just teach me and train me and love me and care for me. And so that's kind of how I want to live my life, caring for people. I want people to feel special and cared for. And we're just trying to find ways of doing that. Yeah.

Kevin Deary

How'd you meet Kim?

Scott Griffey

We met, we're childhood sweethearts. I was at North Liberty High School. She went to LaVille. And our driver's ed class was full. So a bunch of my buddies, we went over to LaVille High School to take driver's ed. And I'm sitting on the front step of the school, our very first day of driver's ed, and I'm sitting there with my best friend. And this girl in short shorts and great legs pulled up on a bike. And I said to my best friend, I said, I'm going to marry that girl. And he was the best man of my wedding. So, and that was, we were sophomores in high school. So we just celebrated 49 years of marriage, and we've known each other for 50 some years now.

Kevin Deary

It would be interesting to ask him what she thought of when she saw you sitting on those steps.

Scott Griffey

Well, she would just say I was extremely handsome. That's what she would say, I'm sure.

Kevin Deary

And we're back, we're back to humble. That's right. Well, you have I think your dad would be so proud of you, of the man that you are and the man you've become. And also the men that you have mentored yourself now, including your son and your six other non-sons. Yes. And their son-in-laws. And what a wonderful example you are to have continued this leadership of family and love and mission and ministry. So you're not just feeding people, you're feeding their souls. And what a wonderful example of strong Christian leadership in in today's world that we we desperately need because that type of leadership does not come in colors. It's not red and it's not blue. Right. It's just true. So I thank you for that.

Scott Griffey

Well, and I I just want to emphasize, I'm just an ordinary guy. The things that I'm doing can be done by anybody that says yes. When God asks you to do something, if you just say yes, he gives you the ability, the power, he brings people around you. There's not all that much special other than I say yes a lot, sometimes too much. But if you just say yes, then God takes that yes and he multiplies it way beyond you.

Kevin Deary

That's such great advice. Last question I have for you, okay? If you could go back and talk to your 17-year-old self, what advice would you tell your 17-year-old self? Oh my word.

Scott Griffey

I would I would say probably mostly live the life led I've already done. There'd probably be a few changes, I would say, like maybe don't buy that certain car or don't make don't spend money on that, things like that. But I think for the most part, I would say just live it with gusto. Continue to jump into everything with both feet. Don't hold back. Just don't hold back. Don't hold back love. Don't hold back your faith. Don't hold back on hope. That when you're following God and when you're following God's plan, there is no better place to be. It's not about money. It's not about money. Don't ever make it about money. Just make it about saying yes to what God has for you. And just jumping in with both feet the best that you can.

Marshall King

So, Scott, I'm going to return to a question from earlier and ask you what do you need from individuals or businesses in Elkhart County right now?

Scott Griffey

So, right now, right now, mostly we need finances. To keep our shelves full, there's a cost to that. So it's different from when we were a pantry, we received all of our food for free. And now we are purchasing food, and we've had people come alongside to help us do that. So a lot of what we need right now is finances. We have volunteers. We had 72 volunteers show up on Saturday to help us box and deliver food to 100 families in Jimtown. But if somebody wants to volunteer, that's fine too. We'll find something for you to do. We're in the process of putting an addition onto our building to help us with some freezer space and refrigerator space. And so we're in the process of that, and we need some financing to do that. So I guess basically, if someone would jump on board with some finances, that would be helpful, even if it's little. We have some people that support us $20 a week. And we have others that are a little bit more substantial. But it, you know, every little bit helps with that. Plus, we need your prayers to make sure we're staying on our path and and not getting distracted in our mission.

Marshall King

Scott, thanks for coming on today. Thanks for the amazing work you're doing in our community to keep people fed and get them the food they need. Our final question for today, for you today, is what gives you hope?

Scott Griffey

I I used to be overwhelmed by the idea of making sure that everyone in Jimtown community has enough food to eat. That was a daunting task when we first started. Now I think we're close. We're not there yet, but we are close. And starting up the food bank, it's the idea of can we possibly make it so that Elkhart County, that there's no neighbor that's hungry, that everybody that needs food has food. And that's a daunting thing to look at. But with the collaboration of Hunger Ends here, I'm starting to see that that could possibly happen. So I have hope in Elkart County, the the businesses, the people here have been just beyond incredible with their generosity and their desire to make sure that people are cared for and loved in the community. That does not happen, I don't think, anywhere else. Anywhere else. So we have a very unique situation here in Elkart County. And so the hope that I have is that someday, and maybe not that far in the distance, that everyone who needs food in Elkart County will be able to have enough to eat. Because we have enough food. It's how do we get it to people in need. And I think we're working on that.

Marshall King

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