Thinking Class
Thinking Class is a weekly long-form interview podcast exploring the cultural, historical, and civilisational forces shaping England, Britain, and the Western world.
Hosted by John Gillam, the show brings together historians, philosophers, theologians, economists, and public intellectuals for conversations that go beyond the news cycle by examining the deep roots of the West's present predicament and asking what genuine recovery might require.
Guests have included David Starkey, Lord Jonathan Sumption, Lord Nigel Biggar, Robert Tombs, Peter Hitchens, Lionel Shriver, Roy Baumeister, Kathleen Stock, Carl Trueman, and many others.
If you value serious conversation about Britain, the West, and the forces shaping our future, then this is the show for you.
New episodes every week.
Thinking Class
#109 - William Clouston - Why British Politics Is A Case Study In Governing Against The National Interest
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William Clouston is the leader of the Social Democratic Party (SDP) in the United Kingdom and a member of the advisory board for Restore Britain.
In this conversation, William Clouston and I think out loud about the current state of British politics, focusing on the disconnect between government promises and actual governance. We explore:
- The need for a cultural and civilisational vision beyond economics
- The challenges posed by mass immigration for social democracy and defining remigration
- The importance of governing in the national interest and what the national interest is
- Whether Western European nations will be forced into ending mass immigration by the United States' National Security Strategy 2025
- Lessons William Clouston has learned since entering politics
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You can watch and listen to my first conversation with William here:
- Watch: How Britain Began To Decline & Why Its Leaders Won't Fix It
- Listen: How Britain Began To Decline & Why Its Leaders Won't Fix It
About Thinking Class:
Thinking Class is a long-form interview podcast exploring the cultural, historical, and moral forces shaping England, Britain, and the wider Western world.
Hosted by John Gillam, the show features serious conversations with historians, academics, and independent thinkers.
Thinking Class is concerned with discovering long-term patterns over headlines and hot-takes. Expect historically-grounded analysis on matters of national character, institutions, demography, belief, and political legitimacy.
New episodes every week.
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