In this episode of Using AI at Work, we have Molly Mahoney, also known as the Prepared Performer. She's a social selling innovator who specializes in creating authentic video content and leveraging organic social, AI, and chat automation marketing to skyrocket client sales. This was a very fun interview, and Molly is full of tons of tips. I can't wait for you to hear all of the nuggets that she shared in this episode. Let's get started. Welcome to Using AI at Work. I'm your host, Chris Dagle. Each week we'll be learning how today's business owners, entrepreneurs, and ambitious professionals are getting more done with smart use of tomorrow's tech. Let's get started. This is going to be a very exciting episode because Molly brings hella energy to everything that she does. And I think you're going to see that, particularly with the AI stuff. And before I let Molly introduce herself, I just want to let everybody know this was a referral from a past guest, Cole Whittier. If you haven't listened to Cole's episode, it was fantastic. But um, Molly and I, although living in the same ecosystem for however long we've both been here, we had never met before. And the first time we got on the phone, I I think I took a whole lot of notes. And actually, I'm going to tell you about some of the stuff that I did that you showed me that I've replicated. Molly is a perfect guest for this because um she knows this stuff inside and out. And with that, Molly, uh, please say hello and introduce yourself to the Using AI at work crowd.
SPEAKER_01Hey, I am so glad to be here. I'm also just so stoked about your SEO title of this podcast. I was like, using AI at work. What a really great title. So you already got like clout in my mind, just for being clever with that title. And yeah, so my name's Molly. I have a company called The Prepared Performer. And I started as a musical theater performer way back in the day.
I then launched a vocal coaching program in 2013. And around 2016, when Facebook Live came out, I switched everything. And so rather than having a company that taught performers how to have a business and a career, I started teaching business owners how to perform. And it was a really big switch. So if you're in a place where you're like, oh, this isn't quite working, maybe you should just flip-flop your offer and your niche because that's what I did, and it worked really well. And so since then, we have really stayed on the top of the newest trends that are coming out with content creation. So it started with Facebook Live, moved to Messenger bots. We were one of the top um with ManyChat, and ManyChat hired me to speak on their behalf, really combining the tech with the fun. And we had our first reach of 1 million with a video way back then. Since then, we had another video that hit a reach of 39 million, which was bananas. We started teaching AI in 2021, and the rest has been a crazy fun wild ride. So we combine AI with your human, authentic, magical, weird self. And we use it for content creation sales. And we believe the more fun you have, the more money you make. So here we are.
SPEAKER_03And if you don't believe her, go check out her Facebook page. I I wish I was you. It looks like you have you and the people that you do business with have a blast. And that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01It's so fun. It's awesome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Talking about the people that you work with, who are the typical who comes to you for help?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So coaches, and that can be a business coach or life coach or health coach, that kind of thing. Uh agency owners. So if you have a marketing agency or some sort of service-based, like, you know, uh insurance, that kind of stuff too. And then also, really, it's like expert-based business owners. So if you can put some sort of education in conjunction with your brand, that can work really well. Even like at one point, we had 400 members in a program all about selling clothing online. And we helped them to create videos where they were connecting with their community and then selling physical products as well. So as long as there's a face of your brand, uh, we can help you.
SPEAKER_03Very cool. So you mentioned that you started teaching this stuff to your clients uh AI in 2021, well before GPT 3.5 was made available to the public. Yeah. Can maybe tell me how you got into the use of AI so early and what were you doing back then compared to today?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So everything that we were doing back then was with my ex-boyfriend Jasper, who was named Jarvis. So I still and I love the team over there, and it's like so awesome. And I'm so grateful for everything that they taught so many of us back in the day. So for those people who don't know, the tool known as Jasper now was called Jarvis, but then they got uh close to a cease and desist. They say that so that Thor threw down the hammer because Jarvis was a Disney Marvel term. Um, and then before that, it was called conversion.ai. So when conversion.ai was first released, my friend Jamie told me about it and I freaked out. And I'm gonna mess around. So I went straight to the one of the co-founders, Dave, and I was like, yo, tell me more about this. I want you on my show. Like, let's let's share this with our people. And so we dug deep into everything they were doing there. And at that point, we were using it mainly with these templates for content creation. So it was awesome. And for people who struggled with writing, it also, I think, actually taught us how to write better because of all the frameworks that they had, like the PAS and the, I always say the AIDA, but what do you actually call that? Do you know?
SPEAKER_03AIDA.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, AIDA. I like to go with my musical theater references and call it AIDA. So, with all of those frameworks, it actually taught me to be a better writer because I was learning while using this tool. And so when they named it Jarvis, it was because we all had this kind of like fun relationship with the tool. And I, with my musical theater background, decided, you know what? I'm gonna actually launch a program called Dancing with Jarvis.
SPEAKER_03Nice.
SPEAKER_01So the whole thing was all based on Jarvis, and it was like how we can take the, you know, figure out what we're putting into it, then what we get out of it, we're gonna kind of dance with it and then, you know, use it, make sure that we're not just like copy-pasting, it has to be a dance. And then they had to change their name to Jasper, and everything in my program was branded around Jarvis. And I was like, this was not a good idea. So yeah, everything changed at that point.
SPEAKER_03You know, I I I'd seen it, Jasper, on the scene, and I was like, okay, AI, that's too complicated for me, right? Um, I mean, obviously, I understand now that it's much more accessible than I thought at the time. And I, but I think that there's a lot of people that are listening that they there's a ton of tools out there and they hear, oh, it can write for me, it can write in my voice, it can create blog posts, it can create. But there might be some intimidation factor related to the fact that it is a new technology. Do you encounter that with your with your students? Do they come at you ready to go or are they hesitant or skeptical about the tools?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think there's definitely more that are hesitant and skeptical. And and oftentimes it's because they've gotten in and played with it just a little bit, and then they've gotten junk and then they give up. And that's really where that idea of dancing with it came from is that it has to be, first of all, like you have to actually talk to these tools, quote unquote, as if it's a real person. You would never say this kind of like, I don't know, the way that we treat our AI is like if you imagine I should do a Facebook or an Instagram reel or a TikTok video on like you know, I should actually pull up, like have my husband or somebody else be on the other side and speak to it the way that some people speak to AI. Because no wonder you're getting trash. It's because you're being a jerk. Like so we have to, you know, give it a little more um of a chance to be able to actually come to the other
side. And so what we've done is we've templatized the the skill set of how to communicate. And we we give our members um like frameworks and a a different approach to be able to have these conversations so that they don't have to just follow our templates, they can then move and adjust their template templates. I was gonna say they become like modular templates.
SPEAKER_03New word.
SPEAKER_01So uh yeah, so it's that's a big piece of it. And I think once they start to see, like, oh, all it takes is this little bit of zhuzhing, as we say, to make things actually work and see how easy it can be. Uh, and they get over the fear of maybe like data privacy kind of stuff, because I think it just seems creepy to some people at first, and they get over the fear that like this is gonna replace me, because that's not gonna happen either, you know?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Agreed. So we we talked to a lot of people on the the podcast, and when they're talking about how they would teach somebody to get started, there's kind of these two different like so you mentioned you've got frameworks. So if I don't know anything about it, I can go to the framework and I can kind of lean on that and I can follow the framework and I can get good output and not have to dance as much, right?
SPEAKER_01True, yes, yes, yes. Or and you'll also like what we'll build, we have these um like templates that are in these giant Google Docs, right? And the way that we build it out is it's all color-coded so that you know what prompt, well, first of all, you know the prep work to do so that you're putting in better information to begin with, then what prompts to use. And then if you don't get the result that you want from it, here's how to adjust that, which can be really helpful also because you've got to, I mean, it really is like a dance, right? Because like I was really big into swing dancing. And if someone like I know the move that someone's gonna do in order to signal, go this way. But if I don't pick up on that right, then they're gonna have to adjust. So it really is this kind of little micro movements that we're making. And so we try to give our members like some future of like this is what to do if it doesn't work, because there's gonna be times where it doesn't work. So yeah, it's good.
SPEAKER_03So one of the things that that comes out of your course, though, I would imagine, is that they no longer need the frameworks, they're now thinking the right way.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. That's like the goal is that we don't teach things in a way that you have to just copy, paste, copy, paste. Yeah, we teach it in a way where you're starting to learn, and then you can start to create your own choreography. You can start to have your own conversations to get totally different results. But, like, for example, we just hosted an in-person retreat uh here. We we take people, I don't know if you know this.
SPEAKER_03Christmas cruise. Yeah, we do think we take crazy. That looks so cool. That looks so cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they're pretend cruises. Yeah, so we're really focused on implementation and not just like theorize. I'm like really making up words today. I was gonna say like theorizing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's close enough. I get it. But no, I saw that and I thought that was so cool because it's it's the concept, it's hell, it's fun. You know, the what do you call it? Not the crueless cruise, you call it the pretend cruise.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you go on a pretend cruise.
But on a cruise, what happens is like you're focused, you're dialed in, and that looks like pictures that I saw.
SPEAKER_01Like my favorite thing about cruises is that I can tell everybody I can't I have no Wi-Fi, so I can't talk to you, but most of the time I actually can get Wi-Fi. I just only use it for what I want to use it for, you know?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you're locked away from the rest of the world. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Was that pretend cruise? Was it focused on was was um obviously AI was a big part of it, but was it focused on AI?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So we actually, this last one that we did, we had a one-day pretend cruise that anybody could purchase, and then we had uh two more days of our higher level mastermind, which is called Glam, which stands for Go Live and Monetize. So we had two days that were that was focused on like more business growth. But the first day was an AI podcast pretend cruise. So we taught them a very clear system for creating a podcast with AI, and I can walk through the process of it if you want. I'd love to hear it. Yeah. So the overview though is that we taught them how to like source the information, how to create your AI avatar with audio, how to create your AI avatar with video, and then how to actually publish it. But then the cool thing is once you've learned that skill set of how to do this for a podcast, you can use it for an audio book, you can use it for a micro course, you can use it for a YouTube show, you can use it for short form video. So it's having that that skill set and then knowing that those are all steps, and I keep honing in on this dance analogy, but you're learning the pieces that you can then mix up into your own full, you know, production. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I'm gonna let you know that what you showed me on that first call, I was so impressed with it that I went out and did it myself.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, tell me what you did. I want to know.
SPEAKER_03So what one of the things that you showed me were these these um avatar-created micro episodes of your podcast. Yeah. And I thought, man, that is brilliant. Because you can you can own a search term or something like that, very specific, and it's and you're standing out because it's not like, oh, here's another article about that search term. It's it's like here's some multimedia experience. So I took that and actually a little hack that I found was the public access station here. I live in New Mexico, but the public access station here, they're like, Yeah, come on down, use the equipment, no
problem. So I was able to go and do the studio quality. Yeah. Did anybody do that? You they said not all public access is due, but I would call your public access in your town and say, hey, I just need to shoot, because you really only need to shoot two or three minutes of training data, right?
SPEAKER_01That is such a good idea. Okay, so hold up. Let's like pause on that for a moment because what so what we're talking about is creating an AI avatar of yourself, right? But in order to get this to work, you have to give it, like you just said, the two minutes of training data. But, you know, oftentimes people are recording it in their own home studio, but you could go use hello, use your public access studio, or even going to rent a studio for an hour, you could then get some really great footage without having to be in the studio. I talk about it like that. I don't want to have to do my makeup every day, but like you don't have to set up your whole studio. That's awesome. I love it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and what was interesting was that, and so pick you know, I get this question sometimes. What does that mean to train it? So if you're not aware, these models they mimic the data that they've been trained on. So if you can present them a body of work that is your voice, your image, your tonality, whatever, then the model can more accurately recreate a virtual or a digital or an AIU. Um, so the tool I used was Hey Gen, and I would imagine that's probably the one you can do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's we so we use a combination of 11 Labs and Hey Gen. So I like the voice better in 11 Labs, and me too. I there's a couple different things about the way that we record it also. So um yeah, keep going. I I'm but yeah, we're using HeyGen.
SPEAKER_03This is very encouraging for me because I didn't I'd never done this before, and you did it, and I was like, damn, she's a pro, right? And so I had kind of had to stumble through it myself, but I'm I'm glad to hear that you're you're APIing your Hey Gen, I mean your 11 Labs voice into Hey Gen, I guess.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So it's actually you don't even need to use the API. You can, but whereas you can also do it just like get the voice the way you want it to sound in 11 Labs, then download it and then load that into HeyGen as the script. So rather than using, so for those of you that have never done this before, it's so easy. It's so easy. So if you've never done this, what we what we suggest actually, do you want me to go through the whole like podcast framework?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, sorry guys, I'm I'm I'm tagging Molly on all these different areas. Yeah, please, Molly, that would be fantastic.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so here I'm gonna give you one of my favorite ways to do it, and then there's like five different paths that you could use for this. But one of my favorite ways to do this because it also ups your organic reach and gives you leads. So this is like really cool. What you do is you do a giveaway. Did I tell you this before?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so you're gonna do a giveaway. Now we teach a system where you do a master class inside a small pop-up Facebook group. And so I will do this every time I do a pop-up Facebook group, I do this. And we have like, I don't know, 30 or 40 pop-up Facebook groups over the years. So in this pop-up Facebook group, I'll say, so I get everybody who is in this group is already vetted as someone who's interested in what I'm teaching. So I'm not like doing a giveaway on a public page for $100, and then I'm gonna get all kinds of randos doing this. These are people who have opted in
to want access to a training. So I'll say, hey, we're gonna do a QA giveaway. All you have to do is ask a question about whatever your topic is, ask a question below this, and then I'm gonna actually create content based on those questions. You can give away like a $25 Amazon gift card. You can give away a mic, you can give away a coaching session, a course, whatever, a book. So you give something away, but they have to ask questions in order to be entered to win. Then all you have to do is literally, and you can do this anywhere on LinkedIn, it doesn't matter. All you have to do is expand all of those questions, take your cursor, select them very slowly, hit copy, go to Chat GPT or whatever chat tool you're using, and say, Hey, I'm gonna share a list of questions. Can you put them into a table for me with the name, with the headers, name, question, and wait for this? If you've actually seasoned your AI assistant the way that we teach it, it can actually answer for you. So you say name, question, and answer, and then say answer these questions based on my um, you know, the information you have and my knowledge base because we're creating like custom GPTs, right? Yeah. So um so it'll go name, question, answer. You take that from the spreadsheet or from the table, you put it into a spreadsheet, and then I actually created eight podcast episodes while I was flying from California to Florida.
SPEAKER_03That's AI, people. That's AI.
SPEAKER_01It's magic.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And so once I when so then I had the eight questions and the eight answers, and then I went in and for the I judged the answers to make sure that they were what I would kind of say. Then I came up with one, I wrote it myself, one full script for like a two-minute podcast. With that two-minute podcast, it's like, welcome to the content club podcast, where we combine the magic of your weird and the efficiency of AI or whatever, right? Yeah. And it's in like my the way that I would talk if I was like doing my own podcast, my radio DJ boy, you know? Yeah. And so then I have that script as a template. So then I can go back to AI and say, okay, here's another answer. Now rewrite this answer following this template. So it's like today's question comes from Chris. He asks, right? So then by the end of that, now I've got eight scripts written out. I take each of those scripts and I put them into 11 labs. So you can do this in 11 labs one by one, or at this event, I hadn't even fully played with this because like I had done it a long time ago. They've upgraded or updated 11 labs. If you have the higher level version of it, yeah, you can do that project. Do you know what that is?
SPEAKER_03I've got the higher level version, but I don't know about the project.
SPEAKER_01I hadn't done it. And my client Marcus, who's amazing, um, if you ever need to. I know Marcus. Yeah. Okay. I am obsessed with him. So he was like, uh, he he had done his whole book. Do you okay? So this is what he did. So he's like a trading Marcus, you say Marcus?
I go to Yep, totally.
SPEAKER_01Okay. We met actually at the very first Jasper retreat in Hawaii. There were eight of us.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if you know this existed, but yeah. So he was here and he, and if anybody is ever looking for like trading stuff, he's so awesome. So he recorded half of his book, like hours into and then put those that into 11 labs and then mixed it up. So part of his book is real and part of his book is AI, which I think is so smart.
SPEAKER_03Wow. I know. Yeah. And he's also got all that training data for 11 labs from his.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. So then if you do that in like the project view, you can actually load like eight episodes at one time. And you can so if you've not used 11 labs before, the way that it used to be, you would load like um, you'd train it on a little bit of audio, and then you can type a script in and it will make the script in your voice. Now, what we teach is that you give it at least three different versions of your voice. One is I call it podcast molly, which is like the one that I just did. The Welcome to the Content Club podcast, right? And then the other one is whisper molly, and it's kind of like uh NPR, and so there's a lot of vocal fry and having experience as a musical theater performer. I have like have like I was a vocal coach, so there's like things that you can do to change your voice. So I give it the whisper molly, and then there's one that's like CTA Molly that's just like so go click the link, da-da-da-da-da. It's more go do the thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you can mix those voices within 11 labs so that you have different nuance to your speaking because that's what you actually do if you are an effective communicator.
SPEAKER_03Interesting. So are you within one project you can switch between voices?
SPEAKER_01So that's what I didn't realize until Marcus showed me. Yes. So you can cause I just like hadn't really played with it in a while, which is honestly half the reason I teach things, because it forces me to figure them out.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_01So so um before I was editing little pieces together, which was taking forever. But wait, the way these projects work, you can switch the
voice by just selecting the text and you can switch the The voice within the project, which is awesome.
SPEAKER_03Cool. Totally. I had no idea.
SPEAKER_01I know. It's awesome. So then you download that audio once you have it the way that you want it. And then so for those people who don't know, 11 Labs does just the audio side, Heijin does the video side. And in Hajin, after you record your um what do they call it? Like your training data. I don't know. So you have to give it two minutes, which it feels like the longest two minutes ever. Yeah. You have to give it two minutes of you speaking in order to create the avatar that it's based on. And so with those two minutes, while you're recording those two minutes, I this is like my usual advice. And then again, one client came back and was like, uh, this is weird. Because the way that I talk, I will look up in the air sometimes when I'm thinking, or if you're watching the video of this podcast, like then I'll look down because my keyboard's down here. And then sometimes I make weird faces where I like squint my face a little bit. So I do all of that when I record the video. But the problem was that some of my clients did it so dramatically because they were trying to emulate what I said to do, that their videos then looked like, oh no, I'm looking up. Oh no, I'm looking down, right? It looked really weird. So what you have to actually do is come with me on a little journey. I like this. Back to when I was in college, I walked into my theater class, and on the wall, there was a sign that was a giant chart of everything it takes to be a true actor. It was all these different pieces, and you could see the lines going up. It made you feel like you had to stand kind of on your head to read it, right? But on the very bottom, it had this huge thing that said, work on one's self. So if you don't know how you speak on camera when you create these things, it's not gonna sound like you. You have to figure out who you are before you AIFI your business.
SPEAKER_02Love it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So then one of my clients who's also an actor, she was like, uh, okay, I did it with the looking around the way that you do, but then I also just pulled my own phrases that I say, and she's like, I said those. So really try to treat it the way that you actually communicate. I move my hands, I dance around a lot. So when I first did it, I think don't do that. Oh my, that is exactly what I was gonna say. Do you remember what it says?
SPEAKER_03It says, Don't do that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it says close your mouth in between each sentence. Yeah. Who closes their mouth in between each sentence? Avatars. AI avatars.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm gonna hear that then. I'm gonna go reshoot some stuff because I I followed the I followed the rules.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, no, my husband called it Botox Molly when I followed the rules because it was like Yeah, that's what I look like.
SPEAKER_03Little square.
SPEAKER_01Totally. So after you do that, you have this like template, right? Or you have this avatar base, then you add text into it. So when you add the text into it, you can either type it, you can actually record it with your own voice, which is my favorite way to do it, because I don't necessarily mind recording the audio, but sometimes I just don't want to get on camera.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01Which is like blasphemy as a creator, I suppose. Right? But and then the other way, the third way, is that you can actually load audio in. So you can just pull that file straight from 11 Labs and load it in.
SPEAKER_03That's why I do this podcast because I learn all these things from all of you people who are doing cool stuff with it. So for anybody who's listening, if you've never been on Hey Gen, it's H-E-Y-G-E-N, we'll put it in the show notes. Go there. It's free to set up a two-minute, like you can spend a couple minutes and you're gonna blow your mind if you've never seen this before. Same thing with 11 labs. They've got more advanced versions you can pay for that are more fine-tuned, but this the barrier for you to test and play with this stuff is extremely low. So we've been talking about Hey Gen, and we've been talking about 11 labs. Hey Gen for the video avatar, 11 labs for the voice clone, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Super cool. And this this is a perfect example. So I talk about this concept, Molly, of people starting to think in AI. Like, yeah, that's great. I can go watch all the little the magic tricks that people do online, but that doesn't make me a like an effective user of generative AI. It's not until I understand how they made that stuff, and then I can start to go, oh, well, I can do that with this sort of process or this process or whatever.
SPEAKER_01So what you just talked about to make sure that it's actually going towards a result because we can be so focused on how cool this stuff is, which and when I say we, I mean I myself is included in that, right? Like when I first did the podcast, I really just did it as a test to see, okay, can I do this while I'm flying? I rec I did those eight episodes, I posted four of them, and then I didn't do anything with it for like two months. So finally, because I was selling this AI podcast thing, which again wasn't,
I don't even I have like four podcasts out in the world. You can go listen to my, I have like a glam podcast. I have the Elevate Your Awesome podcast, like all old podcasts. The Content Club podcast is our newest one. But for me, teaching people how to create this podcast thing wasn't even about a podcast, it was about how to create how to give yourself this skill set that you can then use for all sorts of things. So, like one idea we came up with was as an FAQ. Imagine if you're selling a product and you often get questions or objections. Yeah, if you create a whole FAQ database of things that squish the objections before someone comes to a sales call and you're open about the fact these are created with AI, you're still instilling that belief and it's creating that connection point between you and the potential client that would be it would take you forever to do, but you can have a team member do that.
SPEAKER_03So you're saying do that in an audio or a video avatar as the answer for the FAQ?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So like create.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Here's one of our members is uh she helps financial advisors. And so she is mainly on LinkedIn and she was like trying to figure out how she could use this. Well, she has people and she does marketing for them. So she has people book a call in order to become a client.
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SPEAKER_01And there's information that she wants to make sure, like we have a whole list of buying beliefs that we instill before someone talks to us. And so, in that document that you can send ahead of time, like here's some questions that people often have before coming on, or you know, when they're on this call, I'd love to get right to the meat of the matter. Watch these videos before coming on.
SPEAKER_03Love it. Yes.
SPEAKER_01And and even if they don't watch the actual video. So this particular person came to the podcast uh pretend cruise, and then she did an AI avatar and she called it fake her, right? And she posted that it was like an AI avatar that she was like, This is my avatar. If you want to know how to do something like this, just like a regular video. But what I notice the most when I see people's AI avatars is that if I am actually just scrolling through Instagram, I'm honestly not clicking all that often. You know, like I don't click on every single video. Sure. But when I see a title and someone moving come across my screen, my brain instantly is like, oh, that person teaches that thing. Like it instills that authority without me even watching the video.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Yep. Good point. So now you can create. So okay, you've got this type of stuff. How else are you using this framework or the tools that the tool stack that we've talked about here for content creation outside of the podcast?
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um get the secrets.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01So one of my favorites, I don't know if I can show it. I don't know if the it would it screen share?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna actually so at our event, and I've done this before on like webinars and stuff too, but it was really funny, I thought, at the cruise. Um so I I I'm gonna pull up my slides from the podcast for Jen Cruise. Um, AIFI, your podcast. So um okay, so basically what I did was, I'm gonna find it, you know, when you're first starting a webinar or um or a masterclass or uh speaking at an event or something like that, there's always this little bit of time where people are coming in and you need to kind of like um you know get the get the things going in the right direction. Well, we did this. Okay, so I'm gonna can I share my slides? Is that cool?
SPEAKER_03Yes. Do you see the link down there?
SPEAKER_01So this is our our little podcast, right? The podcast cruise. So they're here on the cruise ship, and then will you be able to hear this shared sound? Let's try it. Let's try it. Okay, so then this is what I played. Welcome to the podcast Pretend Cruise. You are going to have an amazing time. You're going to learn so much that you will be able to turn into more fun, more money, and a bigger impact. We cannot wait to get started. Please welcome your hostess, Molly Mahoney. So, like using it to introduce myself.
SPEAKER_03That was a very good avatar. And it looked like you because you're moving and you're like, that's and it's a little weird.
SPEAKER_01Like the mouth wasn't perfect on it, but I actually did that one kind of quick in the morning beforehand. So I wore the same outfit that I was. I recorded that temp. Um, I don't, what do you call it? Like the training model. I recorded that training video. So it was my same self. Like literally, my hair looks exactly the same as it does now. I had like, you know, the same earrings, the same clothes on, and then it introduced me. So I like to use it to introduce me or to like give myself shout-outs while I'm doing master classes, which I think is really funny. Um, another super random idea that we came up with, which I'm so excited about, and I don't think I've even actually um I haven't even watched this one yet. I created it, but we haven't used it yet. So we, and this is like we've never, you and I have never talked about this. Um, we have over let me actually look. We have almost 200 million views in Giphy.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_01Yes. And I don't know anybody talking about this. So this is like, if you're listening to this, listen up. We're at 379.5 million views on Giphy. Oh my gosh, my team loaded a bunch just recently.
SPEAKER_03And these are gifts that you're making?
SPEAKER_01Okay, I'm gonna show you. So we have
so if you're not watching the actual um if you're not watching the video version of this, go find where is this, YouTube?
SPEAKER_03It's gonna be on YouTube at Chief AI. No, at Using AI at work.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so these gifts here are all searchable on on Messenger, on text message, all of these different things. Like I have Perry, I have Perry Pelcher. Like okay, so these are all gifts, and some of these, like this one, 4.78 million views. And it's my face jumping around saying it's the weekend, right? So this helps to instill your brand like authority because you are showing up literally everywhere on um Christmas in 2020. Yeah, it's it's wild, and it also like I use these in my slides all the time. So again, we're looking for those touch points that help to bring that connection piece. So imagine if you could use AI to create these. Yeah, you can. So I just did this, and like I said, I haven't even shown my team this. So what I did is we actually maybe it didn't work. I don't know, but we I I'll show you this one later. So what we did was I have a script that I give our clients that's like, hi, you know, um, no, and then it's like stop OMG.
It's all these kind of emoji type words. Yeah. And then we create gifts based on that. But my team had been waiting for me to send them a video with because we do like gify search term research before we create these, and they had sent me a bunch of words, and I was like, oh my gosh, we could just use Hey Jen to record those words. So good.
SPEAKER_03So good. I love it. I love calls like this where it's just like bam, bam, bam, bam, use this, try this, do this, we're doing this. Very cool stuff. So, in the operation of your business, outside of what and I know that your business is content creation and that sort of thing, but in the operation of the enterprise, are you using AI in any particularly clever way?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I mean, we're using it for SOPs and things like that, also, which is great, right? We're also, and I mean, do you mean to talk more about that?
SPEAKER_03Uh you know, actually I do because we have a process and I'll gonna compare it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So I mean, simple like use Tango or a tool like that, that as you're going through and doing something, you're documenting what you're doing. So then everybody on the team has that process documented. Um, and that's like the basic, easy way to do it. Another thing that we'll do is with all of our like our coaching calls, for example, or if I'm recording a training for whether it's a client or somebody on the team, to be able to have that transcript, and then you can create written guides based off of that. So, like the podcast system that I just went over, I taught it, then I put it into AI to do a written guide, then I use that written guide as a lead magnet, whatever. But it's also my team is now following that same written guide to be able to create the podcast without me. So um things like that. What's your process?
SPEAKER_03Pretty simple. And I learned it from a past guest that we have named Jody Cook. Jody um she told me she records what she's doing with a Loom. Loom spits out the transaction, the transcription. Um, I don't know what she does with the what her process is, but we built a custom GPT that is trained on how we like our SOPs played out. Yep. We'll just take that transcript,
load it into that GPT, and then it's it's 90% there. It still needs some screenshots and things like that if we want to put them in. But the process of recording what I'm doing anyway and just taking a transcript and taking 30 seconds to build an SOP is much more approachable than the old way, where it was like like we we'd have a VA that would be busy for a week or two, like documenting processes, and that's not the case anymore. It's beautiful. I love it.
SPEAKER_01I don't have a GPT like that. I'm gonna make one. We we have GPTs for the processes that we're using. So this is like on the process side also, but um, in the content club, we teach which is what dancing with Jarvis is called now. So in the AI content club, we teach um uh how to create a month of content in in like literally two clicks. And so, but when you do that, you have to type the prompt in. So the the GPT that we have that's seasoned in my voice, there's also three other things that it can do. So if someone says, create a tree of beliefs for this offer, it knows exactly what the tree of beliefs is and how to write it and format it and everything. If someone says, um, run the super prompt, that's what gives us this whole month of content, and all they have to do is say run the super prompt. If someone says, so we use uh a type of a post called a ladder post, which is um to get people to comment below. And a long form ladder post is more of like a story where they're revealing like um some sort of big aha. And so if they say create a big win ladder post, then it says, Great, before I create that, I need to know these things. It asks a question and then it will write the actual ladder post for you. So we've got some of those things built in, which can be really helpful for us also. Um another thing is like just for market research, all of those questions that we're using can then be turned into ads, can be turned into
um copy that we're using in our emails and things like that. So um brilliant a lot. Yeah, it's cool.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so when you mentioned Tree of Belief, I realized um I must have seen you speak at one of Perry's events.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I spoke at both the first two AI bot summits.
SPEAKER_03I was at the bot summit in Orlando. I I I never sit in the room, though. I'm always like I'm always at the back of the room. I'm in and out.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I remember Tree of Belief. This is awesome.
SPEAKER_01I was there. All right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So are you for for those of you who are um uh product owners out there, this question is gonna be particularly appealing. The the GPTs that you referenced, are you building those and then using those as part of your fulfillment or deliverable for your clients?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we have a couple of different ways that we're doing that. Some are straight up like in our programs, we only share them for members, but then also we have a few done for you clients, and each of them get their own custom GPT that their team then can build also. But then we have on our side. Um, and so we give them like the Google Doc of what goes into the GPT so they can have it for their team as well. Um and then we also have a whole system with using GPTs as a lead magnet.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Makes perfect sense. I do want to hear about that if you want to talk about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I can show you because I think it's while she's pulling this up, folks.
SPEAKER_03GPTs are it's very simple. Google, you can you can jump on YouTube and type in how do I build a GPT? It is the power of 4.5 or Chat GPT's most um powerful model, but trained on a very specific subset of data that you provide it, or a way of writing that you provide it. So it's very easy to build your own custom custom GPT.
SPEAKER_01It's really cool. Um so I'm gonna show you. We have, and I I'm gonna actually bring up. Oh, I didn't put a I wrote custom GPT with no space. I'm gonna bring up uh the whole like process of how we're actually using this as a lead magnet, because dude, this is you're gonna like freak out. Okay. So this is one of the big things that we teach is that your your videos are not the thing. Your videos are a key to unlocking conversations. So for us, what we really wanna do is be in conversation with people so we can present the opportunity to work with us at a different level. And sometimes, like if you're if you're just starting out, or if you're more niche and you're not like overloaded with conversations, this can be really awesome. Once you get overloaded with conversations, it's like, oh my gosh, I'm drowning. And I like to say it's that you're like opening a bottle of social media champagne, and then you've got to put the bubbles back in the box. So this one is one of those that's a little wild, and you're gonna see um it's wild. So watch this. We start on in this one, we'll start on my Facebook personal profile. And so this post right here, it's so simple. It's like the shortest post ever. Dude, new custom instructions on chat GPT. Oh, shoot, that's not even the right one. Dang it, but this will help also. The one underneath it was right. But this so this was when custom instructions first came out. This was before custom GPTs. And so all I said was Um, this will allow you to set your brand voice for every chat. I just did a video on this. Do you want it? I'll show you how to customize properly so you can get content that's unique to you, and I'll show you how to set it up too. 533 comments on this. Yeah. And then what we do is these the video that I'm sending them is often inside a Facebook group. So they have to join our Facebook group in order to get access to it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah. So this one is um, I thought that's what was gonna pop up on my profile, but it didn't. So whatever. Basically, just imagine that I did that post because I did, I posted that on my personal profile. And then I said, if you want it, you have to join our group. And so then inside the group, and this the one that I'm showing on the screen right now is inside our content club, but I had a post like this in our free group also, where basically we just then load these GPTs into our group. So
now I've generated leads because I'm getting people into my group where they give me their email address to get the link to it. But then it gets even cooler because once people come to the GPT, once we're here, there's like this sales booster, right? Okay, and it says, I give you tips to help boost sales with a fun, genuine approach inspired by Molly Mahoney and the Prepared Performer. If you want to improve your results, apply to work with Molly here. And so then it has an application link right here that they can then go to to get that application. Also, because in order to have these custom GPTs, you have to actually have a verified um what do they call it? A verified account.
SPEAKER_03Uh plus account.
SPEAKER_01No, is that it? In order to actually get a website here. Oh, I didn't even have to have a verified builder account, I think. Is something it's something like that. I can builder profile. So I'm gonna go into my settings. Yeah, look at my brain working.
SPEAKER_03There you go.
SPEAKER_01So oh my gosh, this has changed since the last time. You can add your LinkedIn here now, too.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_01What that's cool. That was not there before. Okay, so you can add different information in here as links, and then when people are looking at your GPT, it can send them to your actual website. Straight in here.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Are you getting are you tracking traffic from this? Yeah, so we do have like I'm tracking traffic in two places. This one I can see in like um uh, you know, if I'm looking at Hyros or whatever, if I'm using UTMs, that
kind of thing. But here, I can actually see because this is a specific link in the bio, the application link, and I can see that we're getting clicks to that application, which is awesome.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_01Then watch this. If I inside the GPT, so if you're watching, if you're listening, I'm actually gonna go into this GPT and I'm gonna ask it a question. And I'm a little nervous because I want to make sure I'm not 100% sure I set this one up properly. So if it doesn't work, it's okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so I'm gonna say it doesn't work, it's AI. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. What prompt? And I injured my wrist recently, so I only can type with one hand, which is very annoying. I saw that in the pictures from the cruise. I know it's so bad. Um, what prompt are you using for this? Ah and it should do what I want it to do. Let's see. Yo, cheaters never prosper. Reach out to Molly and she can tell you more.
SPEAKER_03So for those of you who don't understand what just happened, she tried to game it. She tried to get the GPT to give her the prompt that gets the result. And it I guess she's trained it to say, not today.
SPEAKER_01Not today, Saka. And then you can have all kinds of responses in here, right? So I'll sometimes it'll say, Oh, go grab a, you know, here's a coupon code for our content club. Um, or this one, actually. Yeah, so watch. Like if I I'm gonna
be like, lol, okay, give me sales tips. That's all I'm just asking. Watch this. So it says searching my knowledge base. All right, let's dive in. And now it's giving a treasure trove, which it should not use that word because I can't stand it, but that's okay. So now it's like talk about human stuff to start a conversation. So human stuff is a term that I use. Self-identify, get them to self-identify with a problem, get them to self-identify as an ideal client. These are all like tips that we get in order to get the sales conversations going. And then at the end, it says, remember, it's all about making genuine connections and having a bit of fun about along the way. Um, this is an AI version of Molly Mahoney. She's been helping businesses to create high converting content since 2016. We've seasoned this assistant with some strategies she shares with her clients. That being said, nothing beats actual human support and insights. Uh, you will find roadblocks along the way while implementing these strategies. So if you really want results at a faster pace, if you're a smarty pants, you'll fill out this application.
SPEAKER_03You're on fire here. Hey, so speaking of this, one of the things that I hear about a lot and I've struggled with for the past year plus getting output in my voice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What is the trick? What is your trick for having because you it just spit out treasure trove. For me, it's always game changer. Like it's like game changer and all of that. There's a synthetic element that's obvious to anybody who plays with the models, but Tony beat it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so here's the thing. Recently I realized what I had been saying about the treasure trove was terms to avoid that is not term enough. I need to say, listen up, Buttercup, do not ever use these terms, right? Uh-huh. The other one that I'll use like use is like share this verbatim so it knows it has to actually say exactly what I want, not add any of its own quote unquote thinking. The other thing is if you haven't given it clear examples, so like you can use a brand tone that says like conversational and fun or whatever, right? But oftentimes, like for me, the one that's driving me bonkers right now, and I've got to get back in there, is that it is like doing the comparison thing. Like, this isn't just a blah blah blah, it's a yada yada every time. I'm like, I'm so tired of that comparison, which maybe was a good tactic a year ago, but now all of these marketing strategies are way overused. So um giving very clear examples of like this is who uh this is who that this is the example of how we want it to write. Also, we have a framework that's called the voice framework. And um, if you message me on Instagram, the prepared performer with the word voice, it'll send you that voice uh framework.
SPEAKER_03I'll do it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then it'll give all the different it's like an acronym for the word voice to get your brand voice.
SPEAKER_03So you're not you're not necessarily with with a on one of these GPTs, are you're giving it what past Facebook posts and past blog posts and transcriptions, or what are you giving it to?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we have a whole model for creating your brand voice, and part of it is getting really clear about who you are as a human being. So forget about your offers. Who are you as a human? And when I was talking to Jeff Hunter about this, he was like, Oh my gosh, I never even thought of telling my AI voice what I wear. But if you know Jeff Hunter, like he wears exactly the same thing everywhere he goes, right? And so he added that into his persona method. We were at this event called Supplement Millionaire, which was cool, but he was like, I never even thought of that. So we have a framework called the quesadilla of awesome that's about how to identify your unique awesome. And there's things like the fact that I wear giant earrings all the time is gonna be I'm a little extra, right? But then I've got to tone it back so that it's not too extra. So it's finding this balance. After we go through that whole process of who you are, who your ideal clients are, what your offers are, then we'll give it. I have every post I've ever written on my personal Facebook profile in a spreadsheet since 2018.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_01And you just fed it that it's categorized by engagement. So it has how many likes and how many comments. So even to the point of my um my mom passed away last year, and I had done a post about my mom, and it that was part of I didn't even think about it, but that was part of what I fed it. And it said knowing the way that your community responds to things about the like, for example, the passing of your mother shows how empathetic and connected you are to your community, which I was blown away that it picked up on that kind of thing. So if you don't have data like that to feed it, it's gonna be hard.
The the quest continues. Molly, we could geek out like this all day long, but here's what I want. First, I I after you and I spoke, I went and signed up for some of your stuff. So I'm I'm a client now. And here's what I want is I want people that are listening to this to become a client because an endorsement and it's uh you know uncompensated by by all in all regards. There are a lot of people that teach a lot of things out there, particularly with content and leveraging AI, to do it. The way that Molly is doing it is unique, it is different. Is these frameworks matter and they get you a result that if you don't have those frameworks, and this is coming from obviously decades of experience in this stuff. Yeah, if you don't have those frameworks, the best you can hope for is that the models give you something better than a blank sheet of paper, but definitely not cut and paste. And what Molly's talking about here is stuff that gets you so much closer to cut and paste that uh the true promise of AI is delivered. So, how do people find out more about this stuff? Now I'm serious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, you're the best, first of all. You're the best. I mean, so you can message me on Instagram with the word voice. That will get you access to that prompt that I talked about, which is super cool. Again, my Instagram is the prepared performer. And then if you go to Molly.live, so M-O-L-L-Y dot live, you'll find everything that we're doing. And then maybe Chris, you and I can talk about like I could give you like a special coupon code that you could hide in the show notes. It's like just for you people. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Love it. I would love for more people to be doing it the way that you're doing it. So cool.
SPEAKER_01Sweet. So we'll make a secret. You have to go to the show notes. So where do they go to the show notes?
SPEAKER_03They can go to the show notes on any of the episodes. The show notes will list all of the links if you go to Apple, Spotify, our Using AI at work website, um, all of those things. We'll have Molly's. That's very cool, Molly, and thank you for the generosity there. Um and as an aside, me and uh Joshua Pelliser. I don't know if you know who Joshua is from realtime.ai, but we're yeah, we're hosting an event in Austin June 6th, 7, and 8. And you're local to Austin, right?
SPEAKER_01No, I wish. I love Cole Whitty. I didn't like respond to that. I love Cole so much, but I live in California.
SPEAKER_03Ah, okay. Well, there's an open thing though.
SPEAKER_00That sounds fun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there's an open and it's uh the worldai summit.com. Um but yeah, and it's a beautiful site. Um, but I would love for you to be there as a guest if if nothing else.
SPEAKER_01I just looked at my calendar. I'm gonna be in Barcelona with Marcus.
SPEAKER_03Go to Barcelona, have fun, have a blast. We'll send you the recordings though. But this has been a fantastic episode. Every time it hasn't been many times, but every time that I've gotten the chance to now that I remember you from Perry's, like I I've been around the block, I've seen a lot of business stuff. I don't write a lot of stuff, I don't take a lot of notes, and I'm not impressed with tactical stuff because usually the tactics are one-offs. But what you've shared and the way that you share it, you're thinking in AI, and more people need to be doing that to get the all the juice that you're squeezing out of these tools, and it's been fantastic.
SPEAKER_01You're the best, man. Thanks so much. Well, thank you.
SPEAKER_03I'm so glad we had you on this thing. This is amazing.
SPEAKER_01Ditto. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Wonderful. Thanks, everybody. We'll have um and and please reach out and follow what Molly's doing. It's incredible stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and message me. Say hi. I like talking to people. I'm a human.
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