CLIENT SPOTLIGHT SPECIAL: Four Years Later, She's Still Madly in Love With Her Dream Man

In this episode, I sit down with Lauren, a former client whose story is a true testament to the power of rebuilding trust and staying open to love—even after heartbreak.

Lauren opens up about what it was like to walk away from a 10-year relationship, navigating betrayal, and finding herself in the depths of emotional turmoil. We talk about the journey of healing, the surprising tools that shifted everything for her (like affirmations, emotional regulation, and receiving compliments), and how she learned to trust herself again—not just men.

Fast forward to today: Lauren is celebrating four beautiful years with the man she boldly called in just months after we worked together. Her relationship is thriving, rooted in trust, communication, and emotional safety.

Lauren’s story is proof that your past doesn’t define your future. She shares the exact mindset shifts that helped her move forward, how she stayed open to love while honoring her boundaries, and why trust in yourself is the ultimate game-changer.

If you’ve ever felt like you’d never trust again or questioned whether love could still be in the cards for you, this conversation will leave you feeling inspired, empowered, and ready to believe in what’s possible.

Tune in to hear Lauren’s transformation and the exact steps she took to go from heartbreak to happily thriving in love.

🎧 Don’t miss this one—it’s packed with wisdom, hope, and practical takeaways for your own journey.

 Want the same transformation? My new program, The Trust Reset, is designed to help you heal, rebuild trust, and step boldly into love again. Doors close in just a couple of hours, and we start in January 2025. Don’t miss your chance—click here for more info.

Chapters

• 0:00 Rebuilding Trust After Breakup
• 5:50 Finding Love in Unexpected Places
• 11:26 Building Trust Through Communication
• 21:27 Navigating Trust and Love Journey
• 31:32 Rediscovering Self-Trust for Personal Growth

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Did I give it away? Or was it persuasion? You are in my space. I I, oh wait, I don't care what you say, I'm loving it this way. I'm hoping that you stay. I, I, oh wait, it's only you. Was it your wish? You're in my space. I I, oh wait, I don't care what you say, I'm loving it this way. I'm hoping that you stay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 0:49

So, really interesting week that we've got ahead of us. We are running up to the closure of the trust reset, which some of you know is one of my newest group programs, and I just thought about okay, let me think about past clients, and one of my favorites came up, someone who I remember we, we were met, we met through a mutual friend, and I remember that my, or our, mutual friend was like hey, actually this would be perfect for Lauren, like I think she would be great. This is the time of life that she's in right now. Why don't you two work together? So that's how our relationship started. So, um, yeah, I think let me just introduce, or let Lauren introduce herself. So yeah, lauren, like we met a few years ago and now this is just our catch-up. So how have you been?

Speaker 2: 1:40

I'm good, thank you, thanks. Thanks for uh. Thanks for asking to speak to me.

Speaker 1: 1:46

I was like you were perfect. You were like the dream person to work with and like we catch up here and there and all I just see is you just thriving and thriving, particularly in your relationship. So why don't we like go all the way back and just set the scene for where you were when we first started working with each other?

Speaker 2: 2:08

Sure, yes. So, yes, you came along at the right time, rachel. Yeah, I'd I'd I'd been in a relationship for near on 10 years with somebody that I had actually been friends with since I was at primary school, so a really long time we really knew each other. We hadn't started our relationship until we'd went to university. So, yeah, we really had kind of grown up together and, yeah, the relationship ended.

Speaker 2: 2:44

The relationship should have ended and that was fine. But with it also came the mess that comes with a breakup. So ideally it would have ended mutually. You know we could have been kind to each other but, as I'm sure many people experience, these things don't always go to plan and I think some things were coming out of the woodwork. Perhaps there was someone else involved.

Speaker 2: 3:16

It hadn't necessarily been, as you know, smooth sailing, as I thought, and with that everything that comes with a breakup. Anyway, you know you're hurting, you're sad, you're grieving, really the relationship you've had and the time that you've spent together. But on top of that there were some things, yeah, coming out about someone else who may have been involved. And you know, that doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't have necessarily been together, but it made it a lot more confusing for me to process and deal with, and I definitely got very stuck on the fact that there was potentially someone else and that became the focus, rather than the fact that you know what this 10 year relationship is coming to an end, and that might be the right thing for me. Instead, it went completely the other way. I was in a really, really very stressed state, um, and I didn't really know how. I didn't have the tools to cope with it very well.

Speaker 1: 4:14

So let's yeah, let's just say that yeah, no, I remember, and it was you were. So the thing is the one thing about you you're so optimistic that even in that state, you were like no, I'm still gonna get through this, like I just need the equipment or the, the coaching equipment or whatever anyone wants to call it, to just get through it, and that's something I definitely remember. So, okay, so what were? Because I know you were saying like, possibly there's, there was some betrayal there. So, looking back, how did the work that we did together help you rebuild trust in yourself after your breakup?

Speaker 2: 4:51

so what was great about what we did together was that the focus wasn't just on him. You know, it wasn't just the relationship we've had. It wasn't even about the romantic relationship at all. In fact, I think after I gave you kind of, how can I speak to myself more kindly, how can I understand myself better, how can I regulate myself better? Because that was something I was really struggling with. Like I wasn't eating, I you know all these very typical breakup behaviors. I know I'm not the only one, um, but I just couldn't really regulate my emotions. I was very all over the place, um, and it'd been a really stressful time. So I think the things that we did, the fact that it wasn't actually even about the situation I was in, it wasn't about the relationship, and that I could bring that focus and attention back to me, um, that was probably the thing I remember most about why this was a transformative thing that we did together yeah, oh, that's so true.

Speaker 1: 6:13

Actually, I'm just thinking back to the times. I think, like they caught, they became like this switch. I think like when we were working together, there was a focus on, okay, process, process, process. And then it just felt, I think maybe we had one week gap and you came back and you had this whole different energy. It's like wait, wait, what's happened to you? And it's because you'd processed all of these things that you brought into the serve and it's like, right, okay, what am I looking forward to now?

Speaker 2: 6:37

yeah, no, and how can I be, how can I be nice to myself again like I'd? I'd been beating myself up in so many ways physically, mentally, like you know, I wasn't looking after myself, um, and, and I think, just actually reminding yourself. Hold on a second, this is just one part of my life. It feels like your whole life. It feels like your whole life. And you know, we had a house together and I was having to sell the house, and you know. So that is a life turning moment, but I just needed a bit of distance from the relationship and what has happened and what has he done? And now to be like you know what, what can you do to make you feel better? I think that was the best thing that we did.

Speaker 1: 7:22

And I always say like you know, you know, okay, 10 years is significant, it's not only one third, though, because I think, oh, yeah, we're about 30 when we were so, um, yeah, it's literally a third if you think about the grand scheme of life and the fact that you don't just stop. Well, you know, in your case, you'd not just stop living at 30, you still keep going. In the grand scheme of life, it's like barely even one percent or five percent of someone's life. So, yeah, I just I think your optimism is something that you just went full blow with it. I think obviously you come from a fitness background as well, so that really helps you. You're kind of used to having that like goal-centered life. But yeah, I watched you really transform and quickly. Um, so what was there? Well, I guess, first of all, actually, we should tell everybody, like what your situation is right now, because we were working together.

Speaker 1: 8:14

Then someone appeared in your life so a little bit about that and then we can go through about, like all the other different shifts that happened so about.

Speaker 2: 8:25

I think I had been single for perhaps six months, um, I'd been going on the dating apps, um, this was right in the trenches of COVID as well, so it really was the only option and all my life I'd always been one of these people who say dating apps I could never go on a dating app. I wouldn't find anybody. I'd hate it. But then you know, when you're in the middle of COVID and you find yourself single, what's a girl to do? So I'm kind of thinking let's get on there, see what's out there. It was like research. If nothing else, it was research.

Speaker 2: 9:02

And, yeah, and I came across my boyfriend now, um, on Bumble and yeah, I just saw, I saw his profile and I mean, we've all seen many a profile that you know they're cut and paste, aren't they? You know the sort I'm talking about. It's probably some sort of mirror selfie. That made me feel very unwell. Um, some sort of mention of you know nights out with the lads, which also turned my stomach. I was just thinking I'm never going to be able to find somebody who's you know who's more like me.

Speaker 2: 9:41

Um, and and uh, yeah, I I found my boyfriend now because his profile said that he liked being outdoors and he liked jigsaw puzzles. So when I say that out loud now, we laugh about it all the time. He says is that the best game? I gave? I said, yeah, but hey, I saw that and I thought you've got to be a real type of special someone to put out into the world that your hobbies are being outdoors fine, being outdoors fine, but jigsaw puzzles hey, I'm no shade to people who like jigsaw puzzles.

Speaker 2: 10:14

I'm a jigsaw puzzle fan, but this guy's a professional golfer. Right, he's a professional golfer, he's. He's six foot six nearly, and obviously I think he's a complete babe, but all he gave himself, all he gave himself, was jigsaw puzzles. So I'm thinking, right, okay, that tells me a little something about him as well. Um, so, yeah, so we, we started talking, and it was one of those where you just talk and talk and talk and you don't run out of things to say to each other and um, yeah, we, we met. Um, now, what's interesting is we, we met for our first date. In fact, our first date anniversary was yesterday. It's been four years.

Speaker 2: 10:54

Yesterday, um, and we were actually, we were calling it official within two weeks. Now I almost sound like I'm contradicting myself, because here I am talking about trust and it being difficult to um, rebuild and, you know, get to a place where you're open to it. But I do think this kind of shows. If you find somebody that you feel safe to do that with, then it can be done. So, yeah, perhaps we can get into that in a little more detail as well. But, yes, we've been together four years and and it's all, it's all good oh, my goodness, I'm.

Speaker 1: 11:25

It's just so nice. You said so many nice things as well, like, first of all, I did not know he was a professional golf player. I don't even know what a professional golf player, what I think that would look like, but I did not know that. So that's that is unique for sure. Again, dedication. Again, like I imagine him to be, a really like masculine man, leads, confident. Yeah, wonderful, wonderful yeah, he owns his stuff exactly.

Speaker 1: 11:52

You can kind of I mean, I've never I've never met him, of course, but you can see in those pictures that, like, yeah, both of you are like a power couple. I always get that energy, um. But uh, I love how you said like you became official in two weeks. Yeah, again, I know I'm not, um, selling the, I'm not even endorsing the commitment accelerator right now, because right now, as we speak, the doors aren't open. But this is something I just go on and on about, lauren, like it doesn't take any more than 90 days and it can take a lot less, except that if you've got someone you can trust to go along with the process, with it's just like breathing. It doesn't have to be this. What are we? No, if you're both on the same page, in fact, do you remember that conversation of how you guys decided, yeah, um it was very much.

Speaker 2: 12:40

I mean, he is a. He goes hell for hell for leather. So he is, he's a big lover in that way he will put it. He'll lay it all out, which was wonderful because there was zero games, no games, no, none of this. How does he feel? Does he like me? None of that, if anything.

Speaker 2: 12:59

I was obviously because of what had happened. I was more reluctant not reluctant to be with him and spend time with him, but I didn't want it to go so fast, perhaps because I was worried that it would actually harm him further down the line. I wasn't actually worried so much about myself. I just thought it's just not fair to do that to somebody if I'm not in the right place. And I guess, again, we can touch on this, um, in a moment about trusting yourself to make the right decisions and do what's best. Um, I didn't really have a choice, though I think we had.

Speaker 2: 13:37

We had such a lovely relationship so quick. We laid it all out, all the things that had happened to us past relationships. We knew it all within that two weeks, so that's why it felt safe. I was like he knows everything there is to know. He knows where my head space is. I'm definitely not healed 100%. He had been through some things as well, so we both knew that, knew those things about each other, um, and both kind of still went for it anyway, which was even nicer because it's kind of like you know what, I know. It might not be plain sailing, but I got you and you've got me that was really nice.

Speaker 1: 14:12

I think this is a perfect example, because you know, um, there was actually someone on my last masterclass that said uh oh, I've heard that it takes half the time that you were with someone to get over them. I think as you get older that's not 100% true, is it? Um? For multiple reasons, like you know. Maybe things were creeping up anyway, and it's almost like you're not training, but you're subconsciously prepping for the end of that relationship, for sometimes a couple of years, or it's just to the point where you've, in probably in 10 years, you've experienced every version of them and so if it's ended, you actually are ready to move on because there's nothing else really that you feel deep down that you've got to experience or give to them so it could be quicker. So, exactly, yeah. So, uh, let me get some questions, okay. So obviously you're telling me, like okay, um, getting to know him, and, like you, excited, but you're kind of apprehensive at the same time.

Speaker 1: 15:10

Were there any practices or perspectives that we had worked on that stood out to you in helping you shift your view of love and become open and step into a relationship as quickly as two weeks. As what happened? Oh no, oh no, I lost you. Oh, have you got me?

Speaker 2: 15:28

I got you. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, okay, uh, practices where we practices. Practices, uh, practices or perspectives, okay, right. So, yeah, when we worked together, we did, we did a lot around affirmations not really something I'd done before, um, and as well as the tapping, we did the tapping, yes, we did. So the tapping combined with the affirmations was something that stuck with me.

Speaker 2: 15:56

Now I'm not going to claim to be able to remember what our very specific affirmations were, um, but I still, I still took that with me, um, so the affirmations have changed over the years and I still, I still do it to myself, but being able to be that calming voice to yourself, sometimes in a moment that might feel a little bit shaky, was, was really nice, and it's like you can be that reassurance that you're trying to find from somebody else. You can be that for yourself. So that was definitely definitely one thing I think as well learning to focus on myself as a whole. So, like I say, when we used to speak with each other, we'd talk about things like work or my health or my friendships, and, I think, focusing on myself as a whole and how I could show myself love. You know, I don't have to get it from someone else, or there's many other places I can get it or give it to myself.

Speaker 2: 16:53

Being in a romantic relationship isn't the only option. So I think I kind of, um, I've reduced the pressure that that relationship needed to have on me. Do you know what I mean? So I think, yeah, I think those are the main things, the one thing that's really stuck with me that I don't know if you'll remember, we did together. You set me a challenge to never, ever, turn away a compliment yeah, yes, I remember that, I remember that yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:22

I had. I had, I had, or still have a little bit of a issue accepting compliments from people. I tend to back them away or laugh it off. But, um, you said to me and you'd said it to me right before I went on my first date with my now boyfriend. You said my challenge was to make sure that every time he gave me a compliment at least I think he said one in three of them I have to, I have to accept that. Yeah, I still practice that. Now there's a I think that's really important that we can appreciate, when people say nice things to us, that they might be right.

Speaker 1: 17:58

You know I mean. In your case I'm sure they're a hundred percent right.

Speaker 2: 18:01

I'm sure. See, that was one. I'm laughing now, I'm sure see, that was one.

Speaker 1: 18:08

I'm laughing now. No, it's so good, isn't it? Like I just. But that's all part of the trust factor too. So, you know, letting people in, trusting that it's genuine as well, because there's always like, maybe a little bit of percentage of is it. Are they just saying that because they're polite? Or, in the typical British culture, it's like which, sorry, so polite, and it's like you're like fuck off behind someone's back.

Speaker 1: 18:30

You know so it's like are you genuine or not? You know, are you, especially if you're getting to know someone brand new? Are you just saying this because you want a bit of rompy bump later?

Speaker 2: 18:38

that's it yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly um.

Speaker 1: 18:46

So now, oh my gosh, can't believe it's been four years. That's just so wild, but so awesome. What role do you feel that communication plays in maintaining trust in your current relationship?

Speaker 2: 19:01

um, well, let's put it this way If we aren't communicating well, things don't go so well. It's probably easier for me to notice that we're quite good at talking. We talk quite consistently, which is something I didn't have in my last relationship, so I think that's really made a really big difference. When we don't communicate well, it becomes easy for things like assumptions or, you know, we make up our own mind about how each other feels about things. Um, or perhaps resentment sets in and I think those things eat away at us. When we start having a narrative in our own head about what the other person's going through, or what they think about me or what they think about, a situation can actually be really harmful. Because actually, how many times have we bought something up and they're fine, or they weren't even thinking about it that much? Or it seems like a big deal to you, but it's really not big deal to me, or whatever you want me to do, I'll just do, you know. And then suddenly your shoulders drop and you go oh my god, I've been eating myself up for two weeks about this thing, and if I just brought it up, we'd be all good. Um, so yeah, so you know you want to try and avoid that as much as possible. We work very well together.

Speaker 2: 20:19

I think life happens, so sometimes it can be easy to feel like you're drifting, whether or not that's, you know, physically, you know not spending time with each other or whatever, but sometimes it's just a connection thing. Sometimes, I think we just try to acknowledge out loud when that happens and say you know, hey, I feel a bit distant from you. Perhaps we haven't spent time together or we've spent time together but we've not really spoken, and I think you can just say something like let's make an effort this weekend to prioritize each other. It's your day off, let's go and do something nice together, but again, saying that out loud rather than expecting someone to be able to read your mind.

Speaker 2: 20:58

I'm so guilty of that. I'm so guilty of it because if something's eating at me and I've thought about it for a week in my mind, I've been saying it out loud for a week, but I haven't, I haven't mentioned it at all, but it's been so consuming to me that I feel like it should be obvious. And then, in fact, it's not. You know, people aren't in your head. So if you don't communicate well, um, it can you can start to feel a bit lonely with it as well. So, yeah, I think it's really important that you talk as much as possible.

Speaker 1: 21:27

I agree, and I think with rumination it's like. It's very much like how you said. It goes on and on and on in our heads. It's almost like a re-injury every single time. So it just gets more exasperated. And I find, if I do that my reaction to them saying one small thing is so disproportionate to the actual situation, because you've had a whole like series of it going on in your head for so long that for you it feels like the 15th time and it's really not, you know um yeah, absolutely, I'm the same.

Speaker 2: 21:56

I'm the same if I, if I've been thinking, and I think about things and it becomes a spiral, that rumination that is exactly what rumination is, but I mean, in my head it feels like a spiral that's just spinning and spinning and I can't get away from it. So it's actually really important for me to say things out loud to stop that, to stop that from happening.

Speaker 1: 22:17

You know what's interesting on like, um, what's happening in the brain when we ruminate is basically the brain trying to find the end and try and find the solution. So when you get it out, it's like the end of the circuit, nothing else to process for that. It's like done so. I mean, I don't know if you ever had this, because if you had, you've had a habit of ruminating. I've had situations where my brain is trying to resolve the situation in my sleep. So I'll dream about the resolution and I'll wake up and be like oh, thank god, we saw it out, and it's like no mate you've still got that's not done yeah so, um, but it's so good, it just feels and sounds like it's a very open, very different, very emotionally available relationship.

Speaker 1: 23:04

And so, like going back to betrayal, because betrayal is just such a key theme with this particular program, with the master class I did last week as well, I know that that came up and it's a possibility that happened in your ex relationship what is it?

Speaker 1: 23:17

that do you? I guess I'll just put it out there. Do you ever feel like, okay, that's a shadow in me, like that's, that's kind of stayed with you, or that's a worry, even if it's a distant one, like how do you navigate that? Because sometimes that's hard to get over?

Speaker 2: 23:33

yeah. So, like I say, when you're getting to know someone, and it's those early days, it is that wonderful, hazy, rose, tinted. You know, those days are just. Those days are wonderful. Um, but a couple of months in, when things start to settle, I think it became very evident to me that I definitely hadn't moved past some of the behaviors and thought patterns that I'd been experiencing when I was going through the breakup. So I'm very lucky to be able to say I haven't had a challenge to. You know the trust in our relationship which is actually because of something he's done. So that's brilliant, I can say that. But at the start I might have been open to being in a relationship, but I was really still struggling with that hypervigilance. So because of what had happened at the end of my last relationship, I'd gone full detective mode and you know it was bad. We were talking MI6. I would have done anything to find this information, not even MI5.

Speaker 2: 24:40

I've upped it. I've upped it, mi6. Is that even a thing? I don't know?

Speaker 1: 24:46

Probably somewhere, probably yeah, well, they can hit me up if they want me for a job.

Speaker 2: 24:52

So, yeah, I'd been really, really hypervigilant, you know, making sure I was aware of everything. So listening to everything that he'd been doing at work, hanging off all of those words you know who he's speaking to, where he'd been doing at work, hanging off all of those words, you know who he's speaking to, where he's been. Now I wouldn't necessarily outwardly do that to him in a conversation, but I'm very aware, I know that I'm very aware and listening things like what's he doing with his phone? Now again, I'm not going through his phone, but I'm like what's he doing, am? I reckon I'm trying to pick up on behaviors which I'd seen in my last relationship, because I'm like what's he doing? I'm trying to pick up on behaviors which I'd seen in my last relationship because I'm trying to protect myself from being blindsided again, and that was something that actually became quite difficult. It made me really miserable. Basically, it took the fun out of what should have been a really lovely early stage. There were times where I definitely felt like a right handful.

Speaker 2: 25:48

Um. So he's, you know he's probably thinking, oh goodness, what have I signed up for here? Because there were times I would have that conversation with him and he's thinking, oh, I haven't done anything that's that's worth being worried about. But what's great about him is that he understood what had happened previously. I was always open to talking it through, no matter how many times it felt like we were, you know, talking about the same thing over and over again. He never judged me for that. So that was really really helpful and I think gradually, over time, that behavior kind of slipped away. It's unrealistic to think that that's just going to stop because I'd been doing it for so long. It had become a habit and like breaking any habit is difficult. Um, so, you know, learning how to trust myself, learning how to trust him, there wasn't an overnight thing. I definitely had to shake some of those behaviors out of me. That was probably the most challenging time, I think but it sounds like you know your decision.

Speaker 1: 26:45

It's always a decision like your decision, like, actually I know what I've got in front of me. I've got a high value guy, it's a match, he treats me well. I know this is a journey, but I'm gonna get there. Basically, I'm gonna. I'm gonna get to a point where it's okay. And I think, you know, with breaking that habit, it was all about, like, your brain no longer getting the evidence that actually is going to betray you or anything like that, and therefore it's like, okay, well, don't really need to use this muscle anymore because it's safe. You know, yeah, exactly, okay. So, um, let's do a couple more. So what surprised you the most about the process of rebuilding trust and finding love again?

Speaker 2: 27:28

I think that it happens when you aren't actually focused on the other person, and I think I'm repeating myself a little bit from what we've already said, but I think if you try and make the focus the other person, you're never going to get there. Like, we treat trust most often as kind of like this behavior that we direct towards another person, but really it's all internal, like, although, yes, you are trusting someone not to let you down, you're trusting them to treat you kindly, we've really got no control over that. So, you know, once you start focusing on trusting yourself, you know, once you start focusing on trusting yourself, trust that you can handle anything that happens. Things might happen, things might not go the way you think they're going to go, but knowing whatever happens I can handle it. You know that made it all become much easier without me even really noticing it. I always felt like it was something I had to exercise, you know, as in towards the other person, but it's not.

Speaker 1: 28:28

I think it really is an internal thing yeah, and you just reflect whatever is going on internally, outside, like that you've highlighted that it's true. Um, yeah, because if there is a distrust, like I'm seeing with the ladies in the master class, with the idea of relationship, that is all internal, that is all the rumination, and so you may have a certain idea about men, but actually it's just a reflection of the things you've told yourself are true according to the circumstances you've been dealt with. So, okay, I like that.

Speaker 2: 28:59

And as well like it's not. It's not just because you trust someone wholeheartedly doesn't mean it will never go wrong. I think that's that's the key thing. You know, like you could, you could be doing it all, ticking all the boxes, both of you, and still something happens. And you just kind of got to say to yourself, well, if that happens, I'll know how to cope with it, and then you can just drop your shoulders a little bit more because of that, okay, drop your shoulders.

Speaker 1: 29:25

I love that. I think, um, you know, part of the hyper vigilance for some women who are like I'll never trust anybody again, is this if I don't trust anybody again, I'll never be hurt again. And in relationships you're always going to get hurt. Like you're dealing with another, they are going to hurt you. That is inevitable. The spectrum and degree of how they hurt you, who knows? But, um, you know, you've got to kind of go in and accept that it's part of the risk of being in a relationship, but it's the risk that you take in order to have something that's so expansive and beautiful, as the kind of relationship you have, for example. So it is worth it. Um, you know, particularly if you're investing in someone who's so emotionally available, those times where you are hurt are quite minimal in comparison to the quality of the relationship. You know, so it is a good trade-off yeah so I would say two things.

Speaker 1: 30:19

So they're kind of um similar, but let's just go with it. So for someone who's feeling stuck and fearful about trusting men again and they may be on the fence about joining the trust reset program what advice would you give them?

Speaker 2: 30:34

I would say it won't necessarily be easy, but it will be worth it. And I think just because somebody might not have seen your worth in the past maybe they couldn't handle all of the many things that we are before that doesn't mean that no one can. We tend to think that what we've had is the best that there was. I think when we come out of a relationship, we think, oh, our best days are behind us, that was so good. What now? And that's just not the case, like it's just not the case. I think there's so much more ahead of us and telling yourself that you've had the best. And then actually, when you reflect on that best and it wasn't great at all if that was your situation how sad that we might pigeonhole ourselves forever just because you know, our last experiment went wrong. But hey, what could? What could happen next? I think it's worth a try, right. What could happen next? I think it's worth a try, right.

Speaker 2: 31:32

So doing something like this, like a program like this, I think, like I say, I was really worried. I remember having a conversation with my mum when I was going through the breakup and I said I feel like I can feel my brain changing. I feel like I'm getting hard, like as in excuse the term as in my heart is getting hard. I was becoming. I was becoming hard to like wanting to give parts of myself away to somebody else, and I really felt like this is changing me in the long term and not in a good way, like I was always going to be very closed off and I wouldn't feel like I could be soft anymore and that really worried me because I thought that's not, that's not who I am at all and that's not who I want to be. So I think doing something like what we did together it's really helped me to then be able to go on and experience a type of relationship that I've deserved all along.

Speaker 2: 32:37

Like what if it's not even about the relationship as well? What if you do something like this, this program, and you discover how to trust yourself, even if it's just to trust yourself, to give yourself everything that you ever wanted, whether that's a man or not? That could be anything. That could be your dream career, that could be, that could be new friendships, that could be, I don't know. Set yourself a goal and go and get it. What if you had to trust in yourself to be able to live, to deliver that sorry to yourself, I'd say it's worth it just for that yeah, oh gosh, there's so many gems, so many gems, and normally women do manifest.

Speaker 1: 33:14

Not, it's not just about the relationship, it's not just about love. But if you've got love covered like love is the most powerful vibration there, is it just ripple effects into all of your other relationships you're able to draw things into your life a lot more, have better quality friends, like less call or the ones that are not less cool that's not very nice, but like the ones that no longer serve your life or, you know, are no longer really aligned with what you're doing or who you're becoming, they drop off naturally to make way for friends that actually are going to meet you where you need them emotionally. So, yeah, I hear that, oh, it's so good to catch up, like I'm so happy and I just thought you know what? Let me just give you a try, because I know we're all super busy this time of year, but, um, it's so good to see you still so happy and same energy, same beautiful voice.

Speaker 1: 34:14

So you're so kind so I'll be waiting for the wedding pictures and and all those kind of things next well, we'll see about that, but yes, we'll just leave this episode somewhere. I love you, you.