#205: MASTER EMOTIONS AND SPIRITUAL ATTACKS AS AN AUTISM MOM (with Dr. Kevin Chapman)

This Bible - focused, clinical psychologist is VERY DIRECT!

"Pride and acceptance of extreme symptoms is not of God." It's important for you to know God's truth about this, if you've decided to bear the unbearable (endless stimming, screaming, and tantrums)....that's not the Biblical way to handle it...

Did you know that God's word has a lot to say about your intense emotions and extreme symptoms?

Did you know that you have a spiritual enemy that wants to steal, kill, and destroy your family (and your child's future) 

Did you know that many of the symptoms you're seeing in your child are spiritual in nature - and do you know what to do to stop them?

Are you ready to set yourself free from spiritual attacks, procrastination, depression, and anxiety as you're navigating your child's autism recovery journey?

This episode gives you a REAL spiritual and emotional strategy that NO ONE HAS EVER REVEALED TO YOU. 

Why you should listen: 

• 💗 You'll be equipped with Biblical, spiritual weapons to handle symptoms and chaos in your life that is NOT OF GOD. 
• 💗 You'll learn how to step out of worry and fear. This will replace hopelessness, anxiety, and a victim mentality.
• 💗 You'll learn the surprising (dark ) truth about procrastination and how God wants you to end the evil cycle of self-sabotage. 

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Speaker: 0:01

 The facts are that there are tantrums, there are sleepless nights, there is insomnia. The facts are, there's anxiety and depression. The facts are that I'm like, God, where are you? Those are all facts, but the truth. Is that you are in fact an overcomer, that you are in fact victorious. The main thing to think through here is how is my thinking contributing to what I'm doing? We have a real enemy and we know that the thief comes not but to steal, to kill, and to destroy. And then Jesus says, I come that you may have life and life more abundantly. Any of the things you see, including the symptoms, the tantrums, all the things,all of that is not of God. All of that is of the enemy. The bottom line is that we live in a fallen world and we have a real enemy, and he comes to steal to kill and to destroy, and he comes for the family. There's good news coming. Most of these things you can construe as a spiritual attack to say like, why am I going along? My family's doing well, I see these symptoms relieved. Praise the Lord, and then all of a sudden something else comes up that came out of the blue. Is that a spiritual attack? Well, if we have an enemy that's after us whose main objective is to kill us, to steal from us or destroy, that's essentially what that is.

Speaker: 0:02

Are tantrums, eloping, screaming, sleepless nights, aggression of God, or a spiritual attack? What does your mind and your thinking and God's word in the Bible have to say about this? Nobody has ever talked about this from a biblical perspective. And why does God allow this? And does he, are you wrestling with God? Welcome to the Barefoot Autism Warriors Podcast. I'm Ninka Bernadette-Mauritson, and my son lost all the symptoms that gave him the diagnosis in 2004. Stimming, sleepless nights, eloping, tantrums, rigidity, aggression, sensory issues, echolalia. And is now living independently without those symptoms. As a journalist and an ex new age autism mom, saved by Jesus in 2020.

Ninka: 0:04

As an ex new age Christian autism mom, I've not found anybody who is either trauma healer or therapist who isn't involved in some sort of new age occult energy practice, and I have found that very disturbing.

Dr. Kevin Chapman: 0:05

that. So good. Yeah. Amen. So first and foremost, my worldview is the word of God in the Bible. Team from Cares Bible College and of course we travel and we minister all over the world actually now, you know, taking the healing message to people all over the world. And I do that. Primarily talking about the soul and helping people, not manage emotions, Ninka, but to master, yes, Rigidity. And so the feelings of an autism mom are victim state because it feels like, God, where are you? If you're a good God, why does this happen to me? Fear, anxiety, resentment, depression, neurosis, yeah. Just it feels like. Autism is sucking everything out of the family and your soul and your sanity. The bottom line is that the facts is that they have those symptoms. The facts are that there are tantrums, there are sleepless nights, there is insomnia. The facts are, there's anxiety and depression. The facts are that I'm like, God, where are you? Those are all facts, but the truth. Is that you are in fact an overcomer, that you are in fact victorious. Despite chaos, right? Yeah. Despite the symptom management that moms who have kids with autism obviously have to deal with on a regular basis. But the bottom line is that me as a mom or a parent, another parent or dad who has a child or a loved one with autism, here's the thing, the bottom line is I still need to master my emotions because I still need to model. Yeah, Ninka. So as you know, a scripture that's really foundational for me and many believers who are friends of mine, is one Thessalonians 5 23. And it says, may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely and may your whole spirit and soul, em body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Well, what do you mean by the soul? Well, I mean the heart and the mind. Well, what's the heart and the mind? Well, the heart. Is really the core beliefs that I've established over time. The Greek word for heart in the New Testament is cardia, and it literally means the inner man. It's my core beliefs about myself, ninah. Moms that when I get uncomfortable or anxious or sad or frustrated or experience symptoms of shame or guilt, right? You gotta realize that I have thoughts, what I say to myself, physical sensations, which is what I feel in my body. Then my behavior is what I do. And those three parts, Ninka, of my emotional experience interact with each other.

Ninka: 0:13

And that's so important because we know from science that our nervous system that the children pick up on our nervous system, and that it, it affects their gut, their immune system, detoxification, all the things that affect behavior. That then motivate us to engage in specific actions. Our emotions are trying to help us navigate our world successfully. So when we experience mom's anger, frustration, anxiety, the emotion itself isn't bad. And that's something that's so important to say, Ninka, is that the emotions not the issue, the response to the emotion. We're trying to say that you have the ability and the authority. To master your emotions. It's a matter of you taking a step back initially and understanding what an emotion even is, what it's trying to tell me, and what an emotion is comprised of. That's the first step, and when you learn that, then skills can be implemented.

Dr. Kevin Chapman: 0:16

Uh, thank, thank you, Ninka. And I'll use some science to help us too. So when you think about the part of the brain that's at play, when we experience emotion, we're thinking about the limbic system, right? 'cause I know no one listening's ever done that. So I procrastinate. Then notice why I do it. I procrastinate because I'm not focused on what the anxiety's trying to tell me, which is what I should do. I'm focused on trying to get rid of the anxiety as quickly as possible. it worse. So what I'm saying, Ninka is when I avoid emotions, I'm stuck in a negative feedback loop of trying to feel better in ways that backfire and make me feel worse later. I've witnessed this many times. Symptoms disappear. Children start to sleep at night. Um, you are gathering a lot of information about what God wants you to do to make that happen. And then two, three months down the line, it's like. You haven't even experienced this and the same symptoms come up again, So despite whatever I see and what's happening, though, it may not be the greatest or of God. My thoughts oftentimes are the culprits. So I just want to encourage people listening to know that the main thing to think through here is how is my thinking contributing to what I'm doing? Yeah. That's perpetuating a cycle. There's good news coming. Most of these things you can construe as a spiritual attack to say like, why am I going along? My family's doing well, I see these symptoms relieved. Praise the Lord, and then all of a sudden something else comes up that came out of the blue. Is that a spiritual attack? Well, if we have an enemy that's after us whose main objective is to kill us, to steal from us or destroy, that's essentially what that is. And keep in mind that term argument really can be translated as narrative. What is it that the enemy's trying to convince you of in your mind? What sort of narrative have you believed that is not of God that is contributing to this problem? And that's where to answer your question, Ninka, we have authority regardless if it's our own thinking or if it's the enemy, we have victory either way.

Speaker: 0:23

Listen, I'm just interrupting you here real quick 'cause this is a massive wake up call, right? My son went from stimming, screaming, eloping, sleepless nights, couldn't drive anywhere, couldn't take him anywhere. We were up in a prison in our own home because he had so many sensory issues. He couldn't really speak. Step by step approach that taught me to become the expert in interpreting my child's symptoms, knowing exactly what triggered any symptom and what to do about it from a spiritual, emotional, biological, existential, biochemical, nutritional perspective. I can teach you that. You have to understand that there are five phases that you need to dial in order to help your child overcome something that is as severe as those symptoms. Your child's bio individual needs, and you can only do that by understanding what triggers symptoms by lived experience. I teach mom what I did that took me 18 years to understand for my own child. I teach moms how to do that and replicate that. In 12 to 15 months. If you want to be part of my small group coaching program just like Hannah was and is, go to barefoot autism warrior.com/program to see if I have availability right now. That's why I don't have a huge membership. That's why I don't have an online course. Guess what? They don't work. Neither does protocols, supplements extreme diets. If you wanna talk to me about this, you wanna talk about the next step for your child. If you feel called to do this work and you want more than just letting go of the screens you wanna let go of the symptoms, contact@barefootautismwarrior.com or go to barefootautismwarriors.com And look at the program to sign up if I have a wait list or to join us to come on a consult, call with me to join me or to email with me back and forth to figure out whether we are a match. 'cause I need to know that you're a match to the program as well as you need to know if you want to work with me and walk with me through the most important phase of your life.

Dr. Kevin Chapman: 0:27

Yeah, man. So again, one of the things that I talk about Ninka a lot when I talk about this term that you and I have discussed before, neuroticism, it's interesting because a lot of people think of neuroticism. Coupled with the perception, like you said, nka, that the world around me is dangerous and that neither I nor God can cope with it.

Ninka: 0:29

say goodbye to that old version and bring the kingdom on board in our self-coaching process.

Dr. Kevin Chapman: 0:30

Another one would be, what's the evidence that this thought or negative outcome will occur, right? Mm-hmm. Another one would be, what does Second Timothy one seven say about this? The reason I say two Timothy one seven N as you're aware, is because that scripture is applicable to any time I experience intense anxiety or fear. Verse 23 and 24, where it says you put on the new man, which was transfer, basically renewed in the spirit of your mind, be renewed in the spirit of your mind, which is created in God in true righteousness and holiness. So putting on the new man is literally thinking way differently than I have before. And we're talking about symptoms that. Steal life. Kill families, destroy the family's current situations, sim siblings and the future independence for both parties. So if it's not good, it's not God. So I say that to say, mm-hmm. The bottom line is that's not accurate and it doesn't reflect the nature of God. And quite simply, it goes back to what I said about Genesis chapter three, that we live in a fallen world and it's okay to acknowledge that we live in a fallen world.

Ninka: 0:34

I love that God. God created epigenetics. Yes, so, so he renews the whole body. Through the thoughts and the changes that we make. However, what I find interesting is that because I talk about truth and I talk about it from a biblical perspective, even if people aren't believers, what they find is that they have clients that are. can't deny Exactly. I think you're bringing so many people to God through this. Yeah. Amen. In this suicide month where at the time of this recording, yeah. Before we talk to people about where they can find you and work with you, I would like your take on suicidal thoughts and anxiety because that happens to our kids when they grow up if nothing is done. It says that if I have anxiety in my heart, it's gonna create. Negative emotionality is gonna create symptoms of depression, which one of which is suicidal ideation. Now what I'll say, and this will be in the next book, which we'll talk about on another future episode, hopefully yes, please, but I'm gonna talk, talk about a concept known as anhedonia, Ninka, and anhedonia means anti pleasure or lack of pleasure. Activating joy is about increasing and staying in positive emotions. So, to your point, I have what's called Sound Mind Groups that people can sign up for that I do throughout the year. I have, what we call Sound Mind Summits, where I travel actually a lot to go places. So like I could come to where you are at p and a Great. If enough people are interested in doing it, and we'll host like a full day or a two day event where we talk about, let's do a bootcamp of Mastering emotions in Jesus if you feel that God has to be involved in your recovery process, you know that God is trying to reveal something through the dark Valley, through all these symptoms. you feel called something's stirred in your spirit. After listening to this, I wanna suggest two things. Go to the description for my podcast, wherever you're listening to it, to get the links for Dr. Kevin Chapman's books and his ministry. Number two, And I'm honoring that by implementing everything that he has shown me and everything he's shown me. That does not work. And I'm teaching moms that in 12 to 24 months inside the turnaround program. Go to barefoot autism warriors.com/program or send me an email contact@barefootautismwarriors.com to talk about whether the program is for you, or if you wanna talk about your faith, if you're coming to Christ, i'm always open to minister to you because it's all about discipleship. So until next time, follow that narrow path,