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Overcomers Approach
“The Overcomers Approach” podcast showcases stories of resilience, where individuals transcend challenges to achieve personal and professional success. With a focus on spiritual, mental, emotional, physical, and financial growth, the podcast inspires listeners to embrace their potential and thrive in all areas of life. Join us to learn how overcoming adversity can lead to evolution, healing, and lasting success.
Overcomers Approach
Engaging and powerful conversation with Lynette Weldon on embracing equine therapy, overcoming caregiving challenges, and discovering identity beyond caregiving roles
After years of witnessing her mother's caregiving challenges and raising a daughter with special needs and has the devastating loss of her husband to suicide. Lynette Weldon discovered an unconventional path to empowerment: equine therapy. Experience how these gentle giants offer a safe space for emotional healing, as Lynette shares her journey and the profound impact horses have had on her life. This episode is a treasure trove for anyone seeking resilience and support in the caregiving world.
Caregivers, especially women, often face overwhelming societal pressures and an unrealistic "superwoman complex." This episode sheds light on the silent battles caregivers endure and offers strategies to balance self-care with caregiving responsibilities. From setting boundaries to reframing how we communicate our needs, listeners will find practical advice to navigate the complexities of caregiving without succumbing to burnout.
Discover the transformative journey of redefining identity beyond caregiving roles. With Lynette's insights and practical exercises, learn how to reconnect with yourself through gratitude and journaling. Explore the power of community and mentorship, and find hope in the personal growth of those around you. Whether you're a caregiver or know someone who is, Lynette's story is a beacon of hope and an invitation to join her supportive community at livingtruecoaching.com.
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Good day everyone. This is Nicole Ellis McGregor, the founder of the Overcomers Approach podcast, where I meet with different people from different walks of life, different experiences, different journeys. What I love about Overcomers Approach is that we have people who tell their stories. That will empower you, that will give you some nuggets of wisdom to know that you're not the only one experiencing this. Even if you're not experiencing it, maybe you know someone who is, and so that's why I'm so happy to have Lynette Weldon here today, the caregiver's coach. She's a certified life coach, caregiver, life strategist and empowerment specialist, empowering caregivers and others to end burnout and not to only survive but to thrive. She has over three decades of experience as a caregiver.
Speaker 1:Lynette has walked the challenging paths of selflessness, dedication and resilience. She has experienced both triumph and tragedy. She faced the devastating loss of her husband to suicide. Through those trials, she intimately understood the experiences of heartbreak, challenges, but they didn't define her. Those struggles did not define her and they didn't consume her life. She refused to let these challenges define who she is as a woman, as a caregiver and a leader. She chose to rise above them. Through her own healing process, she discovered the keys of overcoming, and she's here to share her experiences and her story with us. Thank you, annette. I appreciate you being here today and I just want to know what inspired you to go into this field of coaching. What brought you here?
Speaker 2:thank you well, um, first let me say thank you for having me on your show. Um, I think that you're I. I kind of went down a rabbit hole the other day listening to all your podcasts.
Speaker 1:Oh, no problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely one that I will refer to my clients.
Speaker 1:It's very inspiring and uplifting.
Speaker 2:Thank you. What led me here? I think well, first of all I grew up watching my mom take care of my dad, who had a brain tumor, and saw her in that position of a caregiver, and you know how she really struggled and lost herself in that role. And then I'm a mother and a grandma and 35 years ago I had a daughter who was born with Down syndrome and had some heart conditions, a hole in her heart. Thank God that ended up closing on its own. She didn't need the surgery, but then at eight months was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes and I think we spent probably more time in the hospital than we did at home when she was a baby and growing up into her teens.
Speaker 2:And so how I got to this space is that throughout my life I've been in management and have owned some businesses, founded a nonprofit horse rescue where, when traditional therapy didn't work, that would send us, send the kids, the clients, to the ranch, and so did a lot of coaching in that area.
Speaker 2:But along with that came the parents and the caregivers of the clients who you know were kind of left behind the client. The focus was always on the client. And so I start to. I saw, you know, I saw that I wasn't the only one who was caring for somebody and getting kind of left behind in all of it and not having a safe place to really talk about what came with that and throughout my own experience I got to the point where I was so burnt out I just felt like I can't continue like this and started look at things different and started to learn different strategies on how to cope with things and kind of thrive in that role and wanted to share it with you, know other caregivers, so that they know they're not alone and there are other people out there that are experiencing the same things, that they are the the same issues, the same emotions, all of it and developed a program that works for my clients.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. That's a lot and I just want to give you your flowers. That's a lot and I just want to give you your flowers. That's a huge accomplishment. You know, not everybody makes it to the place of moving, transitioning and having that awareness that I'm about to burn out. Some people just do burn out because it becomes just overwhelming, you know, being a caregiver and feeling isolated. I also. What stood out to me was the horse ranch and the non-traditional therapy. Why do you think that is important for people today who may be caregivers or dealing with the loss of a family member and maybe having some guilt, survivor's guilt, like some layers to that?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's huge. Um, I think it is it's non-judgmental you know um, the horse is a safe place and they mirror your emotions. You can't hide um anger, guilt or any of that from them. Can't hide anger guilt or any of that from them. You know it's. It's so hard to put into words, yeah, but there's a lot of emotion that comes out in the clients when they're around when you're around such a huge animal, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So you know it's just a lot of time. You know I love therapy and I love therapists and I've been in therapy on and off throughout my lifetime. But sometimes it just doesn't work Right and not everybody wants to open up that way, and so the horses are kind of a safe place just to come and let your guard down and be in the moment. They teach you how to be really present. You know you can't be worrying about what's going to happen tomorrow or obsessing over the past, right? You have to be present and in the moment with that animal, and so I think that's the you know, the actual starting point and getting in touch with emotions starting point and getting in touch with emotions.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, that point is so, I think, profound. I think definitely that horses, animals, have a healing component to them that maybe we're not ready to. And I love therapy too. I'm an advocate for therapy. I've been in therapy off and on in my life, yes, and it has been really pivotal for me.
Speaker 1:But I came from a family that a tradition of like you don't speak to people about your like business, and there was this quote like you know, you're crazy if you go like they didn't know that things are on a spectrum and that we could heal through whatever trauma that we have experienced in life, and so I was kind of like the first person in my family to really dive into that and it really impacted my life for the better. And sometimes I need to re-up and go periodically for whatever reason, or I have my own coping strategies. I have three animals, my husband has three pets and they're very healing to me as well, but knowing that there are other options and modalities that people could use, no matter really what background you come from or what experiences you have, and so I definitely do appreciate that. I also know people in my life and maybe some listeners may not be comfortable with therapy. That is an option for them. You know, like you said, if they're not ready to talk, there's other ways of experiencing healing.
Speaker 1:I would kind of go back to the caregiving piece, because I know that I've been a caregiver in my life too. I had a family member come and stay with me for six months. I also lost my late husband to cancer and I was his caregiver for a few years while he transitioned and there was really not a. I really didn't know. I really couldn't put into words what I was experiencing, because I was experiencing the burnout as well, and what defined me as a good wife, good caregiver. I would struggle with that in my mind all the time, because people had certain expectations as well, and also, when my relative came to stay with me, I just kind of jumped in and said I'll do it. I didn't really have a plan. It was just like they were hitting a crisis and her mother just needed a pause or a break or a pause. But so she's my brother's daughter, my late brother's daughter, so I just felt obligated, as a family member, to jump in with no plan. So I just kind of had to figure it out.
Speaker 2:And I didn't work.
Speaker 1:For that time. My husband said I didn't have to work and I was also in leadership at work too, so I was just a caregiver at home. And so I was trying to figure out really who I was again. You know, after I completed my caregiving duties for my niece, like I didn't know what my who. I was a person in leadership, I was in corporate America, I worked in nonprofits and I was a caregiver at home and I just didn't know who I was anymore. I didn't even know. I transitioned back into what you know my career again.
Speaker 1:But what can you say to people who are caregiving for family members and they may have to take a back seat or they may have to cut hours or they may have to redefine who they are in their career path or hit the pause button? What can you say to those people who may be experiencing that because they're there for their loved ones and that really I always say ministry begins at home. We can't go out and do a bunch for everybody else if we're not taking care of our priority, which is family. How do you, when people get caught up in their heads because I know I did when people get caught up?
Speaker 1:in their heads, because I know I did, I'm just speaking from experience. Yeah, what strategies do you think work for people who need to do that? Are they trying to balance the two and they get kind of lost in even who they are and their identity? What does that even look like?
Speaker 2:There are so many things that play into that, right. When you're first thrown into that role, it usually happens suddenly, and I think one of the things that isn't talked about or even acknowledged is that there's a process of grieving that happens in the beginning, right, because your life has now changed on a dime. It doesn't look like it did. So that's the first step, is recognizing that it really is okay to grieve. And people don't want to acknowledge and they don't want to talk about it because how dare we feel sorry for ourselves? We have a person we're supposed to be caring for, right? So you know that's one of the very first steps and it's, you know, it's really hard for a lot of caregivers, and I would say the majority of my clients have been women. Um, which comes with another whole aspect. You know, as women, we are taught that. You know it's our job to take care of everybody, right, and do everything, and so that's a whole.
Speaker 2:You know another area that we have to deal with, but in the beginning it's just recognizing that it's okay to feel how you feel, right, that your feelings are valid.
Speaker 2:And it's really hard for people in that position to be honest about it because they're afraid they're going to be judged. That's right. A lot of it goes to you know mindset and your belief system, and asking yourself different questions and looking at things in a different perspective of you know, why do I feel like it's not okay to take care of me, why do I feel like I can't share my feelings with other people? And so it's not an easy process, you know. You have to really be willing to be honest with yourself and with your family too, which is another component that can be difficult, because then you're asking for help. It's hard for us to ask for help, and so there's certain things and strategies that we start working on. For instance, one of my clients was having a really hard time asking for help and not taking everything on herself, so we had to look at, you know, setting some boundaries to free up some time, because you can't continue burning the candle at both ends and giving and giving and giving without filling back up.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and one of the hard realities for them is recognizing that if they don't take care of themselves sooner than later, they're not going to be able to function, they're not going to be able to get out of bed, and then what happens to the person they're going to care for? So there's so many pieces that fall into that. Yeah, you know, yeah fall into that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love the fact that you acknowledge the fact. As, Rose, you know, although things are changing with time, but traditionally and we still experience this women are charged with taking care of everybody or everything sometimes. And you know, and having that expectation can be difficult when you're balancing a whole lot.
Speaker 1:And then we get into the superwoman complex or superwoman expectation as we start feeling burnout, it's how do we even ask for help?
Speaker 1:It's how do we even ask for help? And so I could definitely identify with that, because I was so used to being saving everybody and carrying so many plates and I was the person that everybody came to for solutions, resources, connections. Finally, I hit a point where I needed to ask for help and I didn't even know how to. I just didn't even know how to even articulate it, because I've been charged with that a good portion of most of my life. And I hit a point where I had to eventually ask for help and it was a vulnerable space for me to be in, but with good mentorship and guidance and a therapist, I learned how to do that. Because I didn't know how to do it, um, and part of that was creating boundaries and you spoke about that and I had to create boundaries, and some of those boundaries which were more difficult for me was with family members. It's even harder, it's easier with people you're kind of disconnected from.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, family members, it gets a little tougher, but we made it through that because it was a challenging space. Because if you've been this role like most of your life and you have to say no, this is when you know, monday through Thursday between these times I won't be taking any calls, but we can definitely reconnect. Let's schedule something you know. Let's and my family was like schedule. Who do you think you are? You know.
Speaker 2:Well, a lot of it, too, is just learning how to you know, reframe it and say it different. So it's coming at a time you're coming from.
Speaker 2:you know you're speaking your truth and you're being honest about what you need, but you're not coming across like, no, I'm not going to do that, you know. It's just learning how to say things a little bit different. Right, yeah, and I think that you know. In the beginning you just like you go into survival mode, right, you just do what needs to be done all the time mode, right, you just do what needs to be done all the time and before you know it, you don't recognize who you are anymore and you're in the middle of the burnout cycle. Right, yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, reframing. You know that part. You know like learning new and different ways how to say it and maybe even reframing it. I'm an advocate for meeting people where they're at. So how I may reframe it for one family member, I may reframe it a different way, but the fact is that I'm adjusting and making the adjustment and reframing it and saying it in a way that could work for all of us. So I appreciate that and I know my listeners will as well.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah. And then you know there's also that self-talk that we have going on in our head. You know the things that we were told throughout. You know our lifetime, the beliefs that we formed. You know we have all that still going on in our head and so if we can learn how to recognize that and replace, you know we have all that still going on in our head and so if we can learn how to recognize that and replace, you know some of that self talk, like it's okay that I say no, I don't have to say yes to everything. You know it's okay that I need to take care of me. You know, just, you know some of that self talk that happens. You know it's kind of like you, you get into your car and you hear a radio station you don't like you're not going to continue to listen to it, right, you're going to change that channel. And you know. So I try to stress, you know to my clients it's the same thing yeah learn to recognize that's not healthy and change what you're saying to yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, recognize it and make and make that change um I also want to talk about.
Speaker 1:I want to touch touch on your daughter and your late husband. I guess the one I'll focus on first is your husband. I know that he transitioned by suicide and I've had family members out of a close family member as well that had transitioned that that way as well and in my mind I just kept playing in my mind what could I have done differently, what I feel like I did everything right, and just the shock of that of them being gone and just you know, kind of replaying different scenarios in my head like how it could have, would have, maybe should have went and then having that survival skill as well. It was my late brother. He was 15 years, no, 13 years younger than me, so I was kind of like the sister mom in his life already. And how did you deal with the transition of your husband and how? What emotions went with that? What helped you endure and become resilient, and are you still walking that healing journey today? I think I asked a few questions in one, but how are you?
Speaker 2:That's okay, that's okay. Yeah, you know it was devastating and you do, you go through a period of you know what did I miss? What could I have done different? And you, there's a lot of self-blame in the beginning. That goes on. You know, what really helped me was a friend you know I just wanted to disappear also at that point in my family helping me to see that it wasn't my fault. And then therapy helped. But yeah, man, that was just like devastating. And then you get to a point where you know people expect you to feel and go through different emotions.
Speaker 2:Everybody was upset with me because I wasn't angry with him. I didn't have that anger. Um, there was, yeah, there was no anger with me. You know he had, he had been sick for a while and he had suffered with addiction on and off his whole life in depression and he just couldn't deal with life anymore. And that was his way and he didn't want people to have to continue to take care of him. And I got that.
Speaker 2:I understood that, and so the anger wasn't there, which was not okay with other people in my life. They wanted me to be angry, but I just chose not to and to just let my heart, my heart, really lead me through all of it, if that makes sense. And, just, you know, learning how to forgive myself. You know there might have been some things that I missed, but you know I'm human and there was a lot of self-forgiveness that went on. And yeah, nicole, we do. I think there still are times when I mourn and grieve and I don't think it ever ends and I don't want to say it gets easier, but it might get better. If that makes sense, you're able to cope with it a little bit better. So I just think it's a lifelong, ongoing thing that you just deal with and I don't think it's talked about enough either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree and thank you for being so vulnerable and thank you for sharing that information. My brother also suffered from addiction and I think he got tired of people trying to do our best for him, and I think he was just tired.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I felt that a few days before he transitioned, I just felt like he's maybe not going to be here in soon yeah, yeah, and he had a twin brother and they were very close and I told my twin brother his twin.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't have a good feeling and everybody thought I was being kind of dramatic, because I'm very intuitive and I really pick up on things. Yeah yeah, it's very insightful in that way and I appreciate that. But at the same time, when I bring it up, it's kind of like oh, nikki they call me Nikki you're going a little too far here. But I was also not angry and people's expectations of how I was supposed to grieve was just a little different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Everybody thinks it's a selfish act and isn't really though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I appreciate that. Also, my late husband died from cancer during that two years of caregiving with the team that helped because he transitioned at home and I can't even think of the word I don't know, I can't think of the word right now, but the transition team, that's what I'm going to call them. They really helped with that. They're truly gifted to do that. But I also didn't grieve the way, the way people expected me to. I think people want to dress in black and just not do anything. And that would have just and just not do anything, and that would have just. I don't know. My grief was different. I needed to get up and get dressed and I needed to go somewhere because that was just part of my coping strategy.
Speaker 1:If I laid in bed and went to the dark in the morning, the way people wanted me to be.
Speaker 1:that wouldn't have worked at all, and the intimate time I had with my husband late husband was so sacred and beautiful but painful. And the intimate time I had with my husband late husband was so sacred and beautiful but painful, at the same time that I was grieving as he was transitioning. So I was already kind of going through grief as a caregiver and I did have delayed grief, like a year later where it just hit me Like I was to my mind, I was like did this just happen? Did I just watch him die? Did I care for him? And I did, but it was just part of being that superwoman too. So a lot of stuff was going on. So I appreciate you saying expectations of what people define, a view on how we should grieve, just putting a voice to that. I think that's going to be helpful to the listeners as well and for us to talk about it more, you know so I just want to thank you for that.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I just wish you know that everybody could just understand. Everybody deals with things different and you know, why do we feel like we need to judge that? Or why is our way right, in their way as well, exactly, yeah, like we need to judge that, or?
Speaker 1:why is our way right and their way is wrong? Right, exactly. Yeah, now that we've walked these journeys, I feel like, uh, to give voice to our individualized journeys that to that.
Speaker 1:That opens the door for other people to say this may be my individual way, this is your individual way and and that's okay, that that's our journey, that's our past, those are our footprints and there's nothing wrong with that, yeah, so I appreciate that. I want to touch on your daughter, too, as you were going through being her mother and the expectations, I think, what people have as a mother, and then also, when things may turn out differently for your child, that people or that you may have expected. You know, right, I have a, my older son. He had some challenges in his younger years, for I put in the work and it wasn't the yeah, it wasn't the and I want to be cautious because he's an adult and he's doing really well in life and he's like mom, don't tell my business, I would be very careful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but during that time there were expectations of me as a mother. There was support that I really needed, support that I really needed. And then I seen so many people out there with their kids, you know, with the awards, and you know they were living the glamorous parenting life. My parenting life looked completely different.
Speaker 2:Now would.
Speaker 1:I go back and change that now. No, it made me the woman that I am today. It made it the man he is today. There's so many gifts that came with that, but during that time it was hard tell me, yeah, what you think expectations of the parents, or when things don't turn out the way you think they were going to, how did you deal with that?
Speaker 2:um, well, you know that's. That's one of the things that, um, I talk about in my caregiver course is that when my daughter was born, you know, I had two boys. I couldn't wait to have a girl, right? So I have this girl born and within hours they come in, tell me that they think something's wrong with her and she may have Down syndrome. And they go through all of this and you know, your life changes on a dime. You know what you thought you were going to have you no longer have, and so that's where you know the grieving comes in. And you know, because you are, you're going through a grieving process, right. And then you know, once you get through that you know you're thrown into a whole different world. Now you know we're dealing with, you know special education and you know specialists at the hospitals and the doctors and the whatever, and what happens is you just, you know, for me, I became her biggest advocate and I was not going to let anybody tell me that she was limited in anything.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I think that throughout school I would walk into that school and they would think, oh my God, here comes Lynette Weldon again, because it was like I was not going to accept anything that they said to me that's right and I think that's um, that was the beginning of me really starting to advocate for other caregivers, because I had other parents who, just like you know, um, I don't know if they they really believed it or if they just know how to advocate and fight for their kids or um, but I was not going to back down and I just I became an advocate and I think that's what really got me through a lot of the beginning parts of it and the burnout and all of that, because I was on a mission and I had a purpose and that's what I was going to do.
Speaker 2:Right, and so would I change anything about my whole life with her? Absolutely not. I think she's the biggest gift that my family has ever gotten, ever. She's just like she lives in the now and she lives in the present. I mean, if we want to learn how to do it, hang with my daughter. She will teach you right. And you know, there is absolutely no judgment with her. She does not judge anybody. She truly just loves people where they're at. You know and um, so there's been so many gifts in it and there's been so many challenges in it. Also that, but no, I would not change anything, not one, not one part of it. Yeah, so I don't know if that answered your question or not, nicole, that you know I could talk about forever you know, no.
Speaker 1:I can truly understand and identify with what you're saying and I also have a dear friend who has a son with Down syndrome and she has seven children. He is the magic within the family and so I just love it and I can identify that what you say gives confirmation for some parents who are out there who are maybe getting tired or a little exhausted. But we are our children's number one advocate and we can send them to schools, we can work with doctors and therapists, but it's really about being an integrative team with those people and not them telling us what the limitations are, because we're the experts for our kids and you saying that it's really kind of confirmation of that. You know, like you said, were there challenges? Yeah, but those challenges really were gifts, you know, once we really look at them and really reflect on it and it really empowers ourselves and it really broadens our life and let it, lets us love.
Speaker 2:And she's teaching you, you know, be in the press, worry about tomorrow, you know you know, one thing I really want um some of the listeners that are caregivers to understand is that you know how to advocate for the people that you love and in order for you to continue to be a good caregiver, you really have to learn how to advocate for yourself also.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree, yes, well, we are winding down. I do have one more question, and then I'll allow you to give uh your web link. If people want to reach out to you for caregiving, coaching or any of your services that you offer, we'll have that from you and I also put in the description I want to. My last question is how do people find their purpose and identity outside of being a caregiver? How, what does that look like? Where should they start? Because we do have an identity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do. One of the exercises I have my clients do is to think about what used to give them happiness and joy, what used to fill them up before they were thrown into this role fill them up before they were thrown into this role and to start journaling and writing those things down and start to really think about. You know, what am I really grateful for today, even in all of the chaos and all of the overwhelm and stress? What are things that I am grateful for? And I think that once you start to do that, you start to find yourself again and you start to find your purpose again. And just remembering, you know you were a person before this started. Yeah, what filled you up? What made you happy? And start looking for those things again, even if it's just in little things, throughout the day.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know, and I love that and that's so practical and that's something that almost anybody can do Journaling and reminding yourself, taking yourself back to the place, back to the things that brought you joy, purpose before you started. Like you said, you could just be thrown into it and just slowing down and, being in the present, writing that down. Um, it's just so pivotal and there's a power in journal. Yeah, so, thank you sure. Yes, uh, one less, and I don't know. I said my last be the last, but I feel like I have one more left here, but I feel like I have one more left here. Okay, okay, that's okay. What gives you hope? What gives you hope out of all this?
Speaker 2:What gives me hope? What gives me hope is you know, I know where I was and where I am now Right, and that I've worked through it. And the women that I work with every single day give me hope, watching them start, you know, in a place where they feel like nothing can change and getting to a place, like you know, wow, I remember who I am and I can't say no, I can't take care of myself.
Speaker 2:That gives me hope. And just just you know, having people having a tribe, you know, and people who support you, you know, and my family, I mean. There's so many things, nicole, that give me hope. I just you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good to know. You know what gives you hope is serving others, allowing them. You see the transformational change in them and their lives, and I'm sure some people didn't even think that change is even possible, or they knew it was, but how were you going to get there? You know, and a family is. You know we could have wealth, we could have money, but there's nothing like family. And there may be listeners out there that don't have family. I've met other people out there who didn't. But what we can do is we can create our tribe.
Speaker 1:That's yeah, we can choose who we want to be family with, and and that's either we connect with online coaches like yourself, although I know, being a coach and a mentor, we have to have boundaries with that. So it it's kind of like a family, but you know however we define that or what that looks like, but there are people out there walking the same walk that are willing to connect with others to support them in that. So I just want to say thank you, lynette, for being here today.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Your story is empowering. It's uplifting. I know that my listeners will get hope out of it, and so many people are becoming caregivers today in several different capacities, and that can be a good thing, because it brings us back to family, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We just need to know how to navigate that, and we need people like you in the world to support them in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you, lynette. I want to say thank you again for being here today, and what is your website that they can go to if they want to review your services or reach out to you for a caregiver or anything else? Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my website is livingtruecoachingcom and then you can find me on Facebook, um, the business page is coaching with lynette. If you are looking for a supportive group, that is not going to tell you well, too bad, this is the way it is, and you want real life strategies and support and hope. We have a great private facebook group, um, for caregivers, and so if you just want to go to coaching with Lynette, dm me and I will send you a link to join that group. There's some great women in there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Well, there's a community out there, everyone. Thank you, lynette. I so appreciate you with that information. I will also put that in the description of the podcast, and thank you again for being such an example of empowerment and turning your challenge into triumph and purpose. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you for having me. You're welcome, all right.