Overcomers Approach

Inspiring conversation with Tuesday Lewis Harris on pursuing dreams, embracing faith, and overcoming adversity in the entertainment industry through spiritual alignment and storytelling

• Nichol Ellis-McGregor • Season 4 • Episode 11

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Tuesday Lewis Harris, a dynamic mom, wife, actress, producer, and author, joins us to share her incredible journey of pursuing a dream amid challenging times. With a leap of faith, Tuesday moved to Los Angeles during the 2020 pandemic, embracing her passion for acting and producing. Her story unfolds with the pursuit of a master's degree at the New York Film Academy, illustrating how aligning with her divine calling brought unforeseen blessings and prosperity, even when the path seemed daunting. Her book, "The Richest You've Ever Been, While Being the Poorest You'll Ever Be," is a testament to this transformative period, designed to motivate others to acknowledge and utilize their unique gifts.

Our discussion uncovers the art of balancing life's multiple roles and the power of spiritual alignment. We dive into the transformative impact of moving away from family for the second time, relying heavily on spiritual guidance to navigate through life's hurdles. We unravel the pressures of conforming to others' expectations, emphasizing the importance of staying true to one's path and recognizing the divine tools at our disposal for building a lasting legacy. This conversation is a powerful reminder of leaning on faith and discipline to maintain strength and clarity amidst life's distractions.

Furthermore, Tuesday shares her commitment to shining a light in the entertainment industry, exploring the intersection of faith and storytelling. By choosing projects with intention, she addresses deep real-life challenges, meeting people where they are at. She states that storytelling as a ministry tool amongst other things. The narrative power to foster change and transformation is profound, enabling audiences to connect through authentic and relatable stories. Wrapping up, we express our gratitude and excitement for future projects, acknowledging the support of our community and the importance of amplifying the voices of the voiceless and overcomers.

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Speaker 1:

Good day everybody. This is Nicole Ellis McGregor, the founder of the Overcomers Approach podcast. The podcast was created to inspire and encourage others who are on this journey called life and sometimes life lives and so with that, there is the power of storytelling, there is the power of people who are walking that similar or same journey as you are that are really here to encourage, to inspire, to uplift, and I'm so happy that I have Tuesday Lewis Harris here today, and she's a dynamic mom, actress, producer and author, and she's a multi-faceted entrepreneur. She is passionate about creating faith-based content that inspires and empowers others.

Speaker 1:

Tuesday is the author of the Richest You've Ever Been, while being the Poorest You'll Ever Be. I received that and she shares her journey of overcoming adversity through faith and resilience. She's also an accomplished producer and actress, known for her work in film and TV. Let's dive into her story and the powerful messages that she'll be sharing with us today. Tuesday, welcome to my podcast. I thank you for being here, for just taking up space and encouraging and inspiring us To get started. Is there anything that I may have missed that you wanted me to include in your bio at all?

Speaker 2:

No, you were amazing, nicole, and thank you, nicole, so much for having me as a guest on your podcast. It's a privilege to be here, so I thank you very much for just having me here today while being the poorest you'll ever be.

Speaker 1:

What inspired that? I love the title of the book it. I totally resonate with that. Uh, what inspired you? How did that get started?

Speaker 2:

so, um, in 2020, in 2020 actually, whenever the pandemic hit um, I had always been. Even before I became a mom, I always had a passion of being an actress. That was just like the first passion. When I was a little girl, I always knew I wanted to be an actress. So when 2020 hit, my family and I my husband and I we moved to Los Angeles because I just felt a tug. It was like it's either now or never, and it seems like everything around me, like the whole creation, was working to get me where I needed to be, to get me to Los Angeles for that appointed time. So school shut down at the time, my husband he was in education, so he was on summer break and my job was working from home. I was working for Goldman Sachs at the time and I said you know what it's either now or never. There's never going to be a better time than now.

Speaker 2:

So he decided to pack up the kids and decided to move to California, and when we moved, it was just an accelerated shift that happened. I ended up taking a leave from my job and I ended up going back to school to complete my master's degree, and it was something that I was passionate about. I decided to go to the New York Film Academy and finish a master's degree in producing and once I made that decision, like things just start happening and I just start really seeing and witnessing the, the miraculous work of God when you walk in obedience.

Speaker 2:

That's right. The whole time that I was there, though, I went through a wilderness like it was, it wasn't the 40 day.

Speaker 1:

OK.

Speaker 2:

The children of Israel, but it was more like a wilderness, similar to when Jesus had to go. Some go to the mountains and be prepared. So, um, when I, when I went through that wilderness, um, I kept hearing uh, everything that you have, you have everything that you have, everything that you have, everything that you need, you already have it.

Speaker 2:

So when I kept hearing everything that you need, you already have it. Yes, so when I kept hearing everything that you need, you already have it, I heard my spirit tell me to start, like writing a book, or not even start writing. But I think my spirit more so at that time when I was in california was telling me that I was going to write a book yes and I was like, okay, what's the book's title? And I kid you not, it dropped in my spirit the richest you've ever been by being the poorest you'll ever be.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And that was upon a time where it was the pandemic. I wasn't really working a job. My husband ended up having to give away not give away, but resign from his teaching job. But God provided like oh like. We had more than enough.

Speaker 2:

And I mean when I say more than enough, probably the most money that I've ever had thus far in my life, um, but it was an increase. That happened due to me being obedient and using what was in my hand. And what was in my hand was what. What god had already gifted me with was a talent of um acting, the talent of producing, that I didn't know that I had, and just many different things.

Speaker 2:

So that inspired me and then, once I got once, once I transitioned out of that phase of life, um, god told me it was time for me to write in obedience and he that was a tough lesson too, when I was being disobedient about writing a book. So through the book, you know, I just decided to or I was led to just encourage others, uh, who might be going through that journey where you feel something tugging at you but you don't know quite what it is. And mainly just helping people discover what their God-given gifts are and what they were created to do.

Speaker 1:

I love that, first of all. I mean, I'm just inspired by you know, relocating to a whole nother place School, really trusting God to be in your provider. You know, in a season like you said, a wilderness season, not like the 40, you know, I don't not like, did you say 40 years or 40 days? I want to make sure 40 years, honey.

Speaker 2:

That's what I meant to say, if I didn't say 40 years.

Speaker 1:

No, it really resonated with me. And you know, as we go through these wilderness seasons also, being obedient is sometimes it's been challenging to me, especially when fear comes up. You know fear, could you know, and if you share your vision with somebody, you know what your gifts and talents are, you know what God put in you. But sometimes too, just stepping out, there's a sense of fear and there's a sense of, um, what you know, what will people say if it fails? Or you know all those things that we're dealing with in our head, but the the only voice that really counts is god's voice. You know, yeah, and he knows, and you know what he put in you. Was there anything? Um, as you walked in obedience and as you, you know, not only relocating yourself, but family, that's that's, that's that's, that's a whole nother level to it. And I relocated myself, me and my husband and our kids, our dogs. We didn't have to move the kids, but just us alone. That was, that was all.

Speaker 2:

God.

Speaker 1:

How did you when? How did you when you went through the wilderness season? What helped you? What helped you through that process? You know I can't imagine, but what do you think helped you the most, or what do you think were some critical things that helped you?

Speaker 2:

I believe the critical things that helped me through the wilderness was just holding on to the promises of god, holding on and um asking god to just keep me motivated and constantly being in consecration with him. During that season, like I was very disciplined with, I got up in the morning at like 4 am, now 4 am.

Speaker 2:

Now 4 am. Central time is way different than 4 am. Yes, you know on the West Coast. Yes, I would get up at 4 am every morning and just have I made time to spend with God before I started my day. Yes, so when I would spend every day, intentionally spend time with God, and then the next thing I would do was to go to the gym.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you, it was totally out of my element. It wasn't Because I am not that girl. Okay, I would wake up at 4 am and then I would go to the gym and then, when I came back from the gym, I would get my kids ready for school and I would take them to school and then I would come back and do whatever work I needed to do.

Speaker 2:

But it was just the fact of being able to spend that time in solitude with god so that I could hear him clearly and I can see strategy and downloads yeah one thing that I feel like we neglect as individuals is we get so consumed with the the fast pace of life yes we don't understand that. You know um times of risk, times of reconnecting and realigning ourselves with our creator is necessary very much so so I feel like that was it. That was the, the changing um the. The factor that changed everything was me. First of all, I was away from family and I have a big family I'm.

Speaker 2:

This trip was. That was the second time around. I moved to California once before.

Speaker 2:

OK but I wasn't disciplined enough to another. I wasn't. Well, I wasn't. I wasn't prepared to be away from my family, I wasn't prepared to you know, once, once God got me where he needed me to be, and once I completed some things and I took the journey this time around, that was the motivating factor for me to stay focused and the motivating factor for me to stay encouraged during the wilderness. And then at the end, I was like did I just come out of a wilderness? Right? So yeah, and God just really kept me the whole time, to the point where I didn't even, I didn't even notice that that's what I was going through.

Speaker 2:

Wow so yeah, that was a very important factor is just staying in alignment with him and making sure that I carved out that time first thing in the morning to spend with God.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love the fact that you said you know that discipline is a key factor and having that intimate time with God in the morning, slowing yourself down and so that you can receive the download, the word of God, the Holy Spirit, whatever you know, he's providing for you. We have to get in a space to receive and if there's so many distractions going on or if we're moving too quickly, it can get us off alignment. So I love the fact. That's like confirmation for me, like having that disciplined daily time with God, and it's seriously a God thing. When you said you're not that girl Like I get it. I get it. I can relate and knowing that it's nothing but God who allows that place and space for discipline. And then you know, like you said, this was not your first time, but it was your second time.

Speaker 1:

I love the fact that not only it was your second time, but it shows resiliency, it shows like we're going to try again, we're going to do again, because what I find is that some people may start something or may try something and be like, oh, it didn't work out, I don't know if I need to try it again. No, you can keep going back from what I hear from several successful people and people seem to miss that story sometimes that several successful people had to try again. Several successful people had to keep going, they had to keep trying, they had to keep moving forward, no matter what that outcome. But there's always a lesson and we always build up resilience and strength, even in those times where we had to go back and kind of restart again. So I love that. Yes, yes, how do you balance being an entrepreneur, a mom, producer, actress, all those roles? How do you balance those?

Speaker 2:

because just one of them roles could take up a whole week yeah, I just know that it's just relying on the strength of the holy spirit, like it has to be there, because anytime that I get outside of the holy spirit and I try to operate in my flesh I start, I feel all the things that I'm balancing. It feels like it's too much. It feels like you know I'm not enough to be able to handle all of it.

Speaker 2:

But what I'm, what I, what I know already and what I constantly have to remind myself, when I get out of alignment and I try to operate in my flesh, is that I have to? I have to hone into where my health comes from and I have to rely on where my health comes from. So there's, I mean I can't give at the moment. I can't give a specific thing as far as I, because I tried to be the mom that has like the planner.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

The organization and all that type of thing. You know all those types of things, but that just has never worked for me.

Speaker 1:

And I'm a mom of four.

Speaker 2:

Wow, what had to work for me is just relying on the Holy Spirit and relying for the Holy Spirit to give me the strength that I need to accomplish the task at hand.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Operating in those different various fields.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it is work. It's work to just cast my cares on the Holy Spirit and let the Holy Spirit do the job, because it's impossible to do it on your own spirit do the job, because it's impossible to do it on your own. So that's really. I just got to give it up to the holy spirit because it was. It couldn't happen to me.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, all right, I'm gonna give it up to the holy spirit, because I can definitely relate to that sometimes, when you don't know what to say, don't know what to do, how to approach something.

Speaker 1:

If we just allow the holy spirit to move and we surrender, um, we will definitely be led in in the right direction and where god's will is for us. So I definitely love that and I know that our mothers can relate, um, and people have a multi roles. You don't even necessarily have to be a mother life. We have a lot of responsibilities and I think, um, I think mother puts a heavier weight in it, because not only responsible for ourselves, but we're responsible for our children and we're trying to create a legacy also and to be a role model for them. So for those, like you said, to be the planner, to be like the super woman, super mom, like and I love the fact because so many people can relate to that Some people, that's just not your lane and that's okay, but our gifts. God cultivates us and he gives us the superpower and the supernatural to operate as we, if we got one.

Speaker 1:

So I oh, wow, I can you know, I definitely receive that and I know that my listeners, too, will as well, and and I like that because we sometimes we get under pressure to be like if we see what somebody else is doing, you know, but if we stay in our lane, God's going to really let us go and get in the flow where we need to be. So I really, really love that. My next question is being in the entertainment industry how does that influence how you write in your storytelling, Because I know that we definitely need more people in the entertainment industry who are operating in faith and how does that impact how you tell your stories? How does it impact even how you show up like? What does that look like?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so, um, when it comes to like working in development, I'm a development producer, okay, and what I do as a development producer is I get the script from first inception like wow, wow, just paper okay um, what I do is I run through the script, I read through the script, I comb through it. Uh, I think about, like, while I'm I have a gift. God is so good, he's giving me a gift.

Speaker 2:

So when I read the scripts, I can see it, I can visualize it and wow unfold and put different actors in it and know who who is good for this role and who is good. So that's what I do, but I'm very intentional about doing that because, um, although I'm very passionate about the industry that I work in, I know that the industry that I work in can be a very dark place.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And I know that you know how I even got into the industry was by my faith.

Speaker 1:

Like.

Speaker 2:

God did it, Nobody else could have done it you know, but one thing that I really really hold value because of that is I'm very strategic on the type of projects that I work on, I'm very strategic about. I'm working on this because I know that God will send you out, but even who I work with, yes, um, so I just really I I just try to ask the holy spirit. Okay, god, who is the audience that you wants to view? Who you want to view this story?

Speaker 2:

right and who is it speaking to? Because everybody that god is speaking to ain't they're not saved yet that's right sometimes we have to meet them where they are that's right allow the holy spirit to entice them, yeah, to show them that there's a different way to do things yeah, so I feel like with my way of storytelling, I try to tell real, raw stories yeah um relating to that people can relate to. We don't want no cheesy that's right that's right, you know, you know perfect life stories.

Speaker 2:

We want the right, right, but have a overcomer like yes, approach, yes, have an overcomer story and show how the goodness of god can come in and change any in every situation, because that's what we deal with. Like we feel like we only have to go to god for certain situations. No, like, let him help you do life.

Speaker 1:

Right yeah.

Speaker 2:

We learn that and we tell stories with that and more people, because that's I mean, you know, telling stories, that's the biggest way to influence people, that's right. It's the biggest way of being able to draw people. So I feel like you know, for me, mine is ministry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I make movies for ministry so I feel like once we can get out the mindset of uh and I don't know if I'm on subject or if I'm taking- no, you're right, I'm gonna make a comment after you finish some of this story, because I there was a few things you said.

Speaker 1:

I totally, I man, I I'm just totally when you said real people, real situations, real stories that we cannot run from, because these are people people are dealing with.

Speaker 2:

We got to address them because sometimes everybody's deliverance isn't coming from a therapy room. That's right, because everybody's not going to go through therapy but everybody will sit in their room and watch that movie.

Speaker 1:

That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes that's where healing healing can come from. There's so many different ways that you can reach people through, through, uh, through film and storytelling. So I feel like you know, I feel like once we we understand that that's what it's for, it can be used for good or for evil that's right um, you know, we can get out our mindset of oh well, that's, that's the devil's playground, because, a lot of people will slap it on the industry that's what that's nothing on when I first moved to cancerless.

Speaker 2:

You know, oh well she going, oh well. And even still now I think some of my family doesn't think I don't win haywire because I'm a Bible believing believer you know, but I feel like there needs to be light everywhere there has to be light in every medium, and God needs his people in every industry.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

So that's, those are the things that I take as I, as I cultivate my career, as I've been, you know, on this journey in the entertainment industry. It's just like be the light, you know, yeah, so that's yeah.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I totally resonate with that. Like you said, real stories, real situations, um that, and not everybody's going to go to therapy, not everybody's going to do. You know other modalities for healing Some of? Sometimes that is watching a movie, sometimes that is reading a book, sometimes that's watching a series. I mean, I could speak to that for myself.

Speaker 1:

I think TD Jakes wrote a book called couldn't you stand to be blessed? And that was just a book. And there was a. You know, there was a minister that came out years ago called no more sheets.

Speaker 1:

And I have been in church, I needed that type of ministry, I needed someone to say no, this is how a woman of God walks, this is what a woman of God does, this is what your requirement. Your vessel is holy and I wasn't getting it like in the Bible traditional aspect, but it ministered to me and of course I fell into alignment with the word of God. It fell into alignment with me being more disciplined, but it was just hard for me to receive it in other ways and sometimes I felt like just different in church because I wasn't receiving it the other ways that everybody else was. But it brought me into alignment with the word of God and, as we know, no church is perfect, no ministry is perfect, but these are different avenues where people can minister to people. So we definitely need people like you in those spaces.

Speaker 1:

So I definitely appreciate that, with real stories that we can't run from. We can't run from domestic abuse, we can't run from homelessness, we can't run from mental health issues, substance abuse, you know, diseases, all these things that people are being impacted with. That there's a sense of shame. You know that people carry with them and if they go into a space where they don't feel received, or if they can't walk into a therapy's office, they definitely got a phone, they watch that movie on the phone and their computer a Netflix fire stick. Whatever you got, it is there. So I definitely appreciate that and, like you said, we have to be the light. You know my husband works in entertainment. He's been at for 35 years. He's more in the music side of things. It does say like the entertainment industry can be dark, it can be a monster and if you do not have the resiliency and the spiritual strength to stay grounded, it will eat you alive. Oh, it will For sure. And sometimes people will call him Bishop and he's not a Bishop.

Speaker 2:

Look at them, speaking into his life. Girl, you look like a Bishop's wife.

Speaker 1:

Look at you and it's his life. Girl, you look like a bishop's wife look at you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I received that in the non-traditional sense.

Speaker 1:

Exactly right. He always says that you know, and I'm like dear no receive that. You know, you are the light. You know we honor you and respect you. So and we and that has to be in all different spaces, because if we don't show up, who will you know? So, tuesday, I so appreciate that. How does it like? Also, when you're challenged? You know, because challenges may come up or do come up when you're challenged, you know. You know, looking at a script or wanting to put someone in a certain role and someone's opinion may differ, how do you walk through that? As well as a believer, what does that look like?

Speaker 2:

so I have had to because of the way that God requires you to be the light everything, you're not going to always work with other believers.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

Matter of fact, there has been very few believers that I've worked with in this industry, so one thing that I have learned how to do is I've learned to not compromise my faith If anything comes against what I believe. If anything comes against what, or comes or is compromising to my faith it's more like you know. I mean, I'm like you know different types of like tapping into different things and I'm like, no, I'm not gonna tap into that right, I understand.

Speaker 2:

those are the projects that I just have to walk away from, but if it's something that I know, that is speaking to a certain audience that might not be saved yet. I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me, so I'll say I'll sleep on it. Okay, Holy Spirit, is this project for me? If so, give me the insight on how this project will lead me to you. And when I get insight. That's what helps me make the decision Whether or not that'll be something that I move forward with or something that I move myself from and I've left money on the table plenty of times because I just don't compromise what I believe.

Speaker 2:

However, I do know that. You know, sometimes we're required to go into different places and, like like I said earlier, like we discussed earlier, it's be the light, but when it comes to the storytelling and what we're putting out to people, I'm very, very particular about that.

Speaker 2:

So, those are the things that I'm more intentional about. Like I know, I pray, I repent daily. Yeah, I make sure that I spend my time with god, but I don't want to welcome anything into someone's home or into someone's life that isn't prepared to be able to fight that type of or spiritually yeah, so I always take them into account with the type of projects that I do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, projects that I know that that are projects that I know that that are wholesome in. You know the reality of them and the message has to be a wholesome message Like what is the message? That's what I really in a nutshell, that's my whole goal too is like what is the overall message?

Speaker 1:

What are we trying to convey. So, yeah, yeah, you know, I love that and I love that it sounds like it takes some balance there and definitely the leading of the Holy Spirit and God, because you're meeting people right where they're at. You know there's something that we used to say don't be so heavenly bound that you're no earthly good, you know. So we don't. You know we want to proceed with, you know, humility and like you do it well, it sounds like you do it tactfully and you're really thinking about it. And you do it well. It sounds like you do it tactfully and you're really thinking about it.

Speaker 1:

And I love that, because if we can't meet people where they're at, because God said, go out amongst you know, and and and say people, and that doesn't necessarily mean in a place that we're comfortable in I, I, you know and I love that.

Speaker 1:

And, like you said, you know you are very, you know, tactful and discerning and like if this project is going to be the one or not, and you don't want to open an ear gate or an eye gate up to something that someone can't handle, because definitely being on a spiritual warfare is on a totally another level and if we're not equipped to receive it. We want to be across and I like the fact that you carry that mental well, because people who are in leadership or who have positions of power, whatever system you're in, we need to be cognizant of that because not everybody could take that in and handle it, and even myself, sometimes I'll move into a space and I won't interview somebody because something comes up in the bio that just no, and I don't know if I want to open that up because Lord and I got to go into some type of warfare. You know that. You know I want to be equipped for.

Speaker 1:

So, having discernment. Discernment is you know what you definitely are using, you know in the space, yeah, yeah. So it's just really that simple, that spiritual discernment to know when to move in spaces, when we can go through that door Maybe. Maybe we have to pause or hold out on that, or the fact that you're still reaching souls that need to hear the message. So I love that. I know we're winding down. I got a couple more questions. What do you find most rewarding about the work that you do Like? What do you find most rewarding?

Speaker 2:

work that you do, like what? What did you find most rewarding? Yes, oh, it's just um, I think I've been a storyteller my whole life. I mean even when I was lying, when my mama said, you know, but uh, storytelling is like a beautiful thing to me and, and more so, I love the fact of being able to just like the Bible right, there's so many different people that you resonate with through their story and through reading their life and their testimony. It helps us to navigate life. So I feel like through storytelling, you can speak to people, especially if you tell it through your gifts, if you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I do Speak to people who need guidance and help them see somebody live out what they might be struggling with.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

And you can help them kind of see how that person overcame.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

They can adapt those things to their personal life so that they can come out and overcome the things that they are being bound by. So, I feel like that's always been a passion of mine and just being able to help people through, you know, entertainment something where they can kind of let it resonate with their spirits. You know, without it being a lecture or without it being, you know, resonate with their spirits, that they can connect with.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I love that. I love that, like you said. So, something that people can connect with, because it's really all about connection. That's what people really want and that they're seeking is just some form of connection, something that they can relate to. It's just some form of connection, something that they can relate to and, like you said, watching somebody live and walk that out, because, like they said, sometimes we may be the only Bible, or whatever message or movie you put out may be the only Bible they're reading or seeing. Yes, it's all about strategy. Yes, so I definitely can relate to that and I do receive that in the spirit. I totally, totally do For somebody who is, you know, walking this faith journey and it just seems overwhelming because I know to relocate now the West Coast is not the cheapest place to live in.

Speaker 1:

It's pricey, you know some people I mean, I have family there, I visit them, you know but we and my husband was like, oh, will we ever live there? He was like, I don't know, it's going to take God. It's definitely going to take God. We live in Arizona and it's getting pricey here now, but it definitely is a faith walk, you know, for someone who the mountain seems just too big or the price tag seems too much, but we know that all things are possible with God, and God will keep his promises. He we have to be obedient. That's one of the key factors as well. What would you say to encourage somebody? God, they know what their gifts and talents are. They want to step out on it, but it could be relocation.

Speaker 1:

It might be going back to school to get your master's, which I can relate to because I got mine too, and it took an act of God. I took a lot of crying and I was working and going. Yeah, we know yeah, and it took me being in a space. I went to a university that I wasn't familiar with. Most of the students came from very privileged backgrounds. My background is I come from a lot of I had to overcome.

Speaker 1:

That's why, since overcomers approach and would I take anything back from that journey? No, no, no me. You know being homeless, me getting. You know food stamps me. Yeah, since you know me being an overcomer, I always like to say um, a survivor of domestic violence, um, and I also had to forgive my abuser in order to really live fully in my blessings, and that's another topic. So, when I move into spaces the type of space that I work in now just people who need healing and it's people who need deliverance and they may have been a victim at some point. So I'm looking at it from a holistic perspective and forgiveness is definitely key and I always think strategy and discernment, so that's something I can relate to and so, and just you know, keeping people encouraged and keeping people inspired, what do you think some key things that they really should rely on? Or what are some key things that that helped you and I think you spoke to some of those already but anything to leave our listeners with.

Speaker 2:

So one thing that resonated with me when God had to prepare me the second, second time around he was preparing me to be able to sustain yes so he had many different. I'm telling you it was so supernatural the way that he did it. Uh, many different ministers that I would be watching on like youtube or that I even my church home at the time before I left.

Speaker 2:

yeah, it seemed like everybody was preaching the same thing. Yes, they had a meeting about my life or what I just don't know it. But that was kind of like God just gave me signs. He gave me signs that it was time to do something different. And one of the ministers that I was, which was actually my pastor. He was more so the in-person person that God planned in my life at that time. He said that God won't ever ask you to do anything that he won't fit the fit the bill for.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

And when I tell you he he made the increase and put it that bill.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

That's why my title of my book is what my title of my book is yeah god made so many provisions, nicole, like check, unexpected checks in the mail, unexpected calls. Like my kids were, um, were actors in the film industry, we would get a call the night before. Hey, we need y'all on set by tomorrow. Wow, god made so many different provisions for us to be able to maintain and stay in that place for the time that he needed us to stay in that place.

Speaker 2:

So, I would say to first of all, like you said, obedience is key.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

We have to operate in obedience because God more, far more than what we know he knows how the situation starts and how it ends, so we have to trust his vision for our lives but, also it would be. It would be first obedience, second would be faith. All it takes is a muster seed, all he needs is your yes. When he has, he can. You can move mountains with god in your yes so obedience, faith.

Speaker 2:

Uh, of course you need resilience, because if god gave you a promise, that promise don't always come overnight that's right, you better.

Speaker 2:

That's a word, so you gotta keep pursuing it until that thing comes fast, or until you got signs that you're on the right track and God will give you signs, miracles and wonders. Signs and wonders yeah but I would say the most important part is to stay in, stay connected to him yeah stay in alignment with him. Stay reading your bible, read your bible for yourself, and ask God to give you understanding. Don't wait for nobody, no pastor nobody on the social media.

Speaker 2:

nobody. Don't wait for anybody to tell you what thus said't wait for nobody no pastor, no social media, nobody. Don't wait for anybody to tell you what the Lord said you really study for yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

Once you do that, like God is going to do the increase he's going to do. All we got to do is just do what he said. He will direct you and that's all we got to do. Just do what he said.

Speaker 1:

Amen, I love it. Just do what he said. Amen, I love it. Just do what God says. Be obedient. Send the word for ourselves. You know, love faith, Stand on the promise. The promise may not come today, it may not come tomorrow, but it's coming. You know, obedience is key.

Speaker 1:

I love the fact and you said the resiliency, because we have to build up that strength and I think of you know we have to renew our minds daily because we can get weak if we slip up and, you know, don't connect to God. We can get it. Things get a little shaky and I was thinking about the experience and we got to feel that result that muscle back up, because our muscles will act, you know, just like in our body. We don't use them, especially, you know, as we progress in life. They don't work and we don't have the strength that we need. So it's more, it's so necessary to give God our yes, you know, so that we can move forward and what he has for us. So I love that. Tuesday it's been a pleasure talking to you today. If people want to get in touch with you, like on your any of your social media handles, want to purchase your book, where should they go to?

Speaker 2:

For sure. So I am Tuesday Lewis Harris on Facebook, Instagram. On Facebook and Instagram, you can always follow me there. My link tree on my Instagram has all the different ways to stay connected to me. So definitely stay connected, because some exciting things are rolling out in the next couple months. Awesome, and as far as my book, my book is able to. You can purchase it on Amazon. I have a copy so I can show you I should have sent you one. Oh, I love it. It's a copy of my book.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I love it. I love the picture too, you know, and I think that the title is going to resonate. Your testimony is going to resonate with so many listeners and people and I so, so appreciate it. There is a question that I always ask some of my guests on the show what would you tell your 18 year old self? And looking back now of all that you know now, what would you tell 18 year old tuesday?

Speaker 2:

I would say girl, just keep going, it gets better, it gets greater later oh, oh.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Keep going, it gets greater later. So, listeners, if you're listening out there, no matter what wilderness season you're in, no matter what you're experiencing, you have two women here who are walking in humility, who are different gifts and different systems, but we're here to tell you that if you just keep going, it definitely is going to get greater later. And stay connected to God, because that's your power, that's your source. Tuesday I want to say thank you again. I so appreciate the time we had today and it has been a wonderful conversation. I want to say thank you again. I so appreciate the time we had today and it has been a wonderful conversation. I'm going to be looking forward to more movies, more books. I know you have some exciting news on the horizon, so I will be following as well.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Thank you, Nicole. It was so awesome to be here with you today.

Speaker 1:

You're such a great host, and the same to you. I can't wait to get your TV show Girls. Keep that to existence. Thank you, I received that. Thank you. Thank you, because I am here for the overcomers, I'm here for the people that don't feel like they have a voice. We are here for you, guys. Thank you, listeners. I greatly appreciate it. Thank you again, tuesday.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, y'all have a good one.

Speaker 1:

You too.