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Overcomers Approach
“The Overcomers Approach” podcast showcases stories of resilience, where individuals transcend challenges to achieve personal and professional success. With a focus on spiritual, mental, emotional, physical, and financial growth, the podcast inspires listeners to embrace their potential and thrive in all areas of life. Join us to learn how overcoming adversity can lead to evolution, healing, and lasting success.
Overcomers Approach
Empowering conversation with Madeline Claire Weiss on transforming personal stories, fostering empathy in children, and aligning mindset with life goals for true fulfillment
What if the stories we tell ourselves are the keys to unlocking our potential? Join me, Nichol Ellis McGregor, as I welcome the remarkable Madeline Claire Weiss, a Harvard-trained psychotherapist and mindset expert, on the Overcomers Approach podcast. Together, we explore how our personal narratives shape our lives and careers, revealing the power of transforming unconscious thoughts into conscious guides toward a prosperous and fulfilling life. Madeline shares her own transformative journey from dealing with the abrupt loss of her father to becoming a life and career coach, offering profound insights into overcoming mental barriers through the power of storytelling and self-awareness.
Reflecting on the innocence and authenticity of children, we discuss the vital role of empathy and storytelling in shaping young minds. Kids naturally try to make sense of the world, and through guiding them in creating empowering narratives, we can equip them with essential life skills. I share the touching story of a traveling mother and her son, illustrating how genuine connections can enhance learning and growth at any age. The wisdom children inherently possess often teaches adults valuable lessons about honesty and perspective, and together, we highlight the importance of incorporating emotional and cognitive awareness in both educational settings and parenting.
Our journey doesn't stop with childhood. Discover how to transition from a life that feels "meh" to one that is vibrant and full of purpose. We introduce a five-step process, rooted in business, psychotherapy, and evolutionary psychology, to align your internal mindset with external choices for true happiness and fulfillment. Hear stories of personal growth, like an MD's international move to align his environment with his values, and learn how pursuing a fulfilling hobby can bring joy, even amid work commitments. With every story and insight, we aim to inspire and empower you to live a life that truly reflects your values and aspirations.
Madeline is a co-author in the Handbook of Stressful Transitions Across the Lifespan, and author of the new release “Getting to G.R.E.A.T. 5-Step Strategy for Work and Life.” And now, to help executives, professionals, and entrepreneurs, so many of whom worry about their children, Madelaine is launching "What's Your Story?" a personal development workbook for kids and the people who love them. She review services that Madeline has or to purchase one of her workbooks, you can go to her website at https://madelaineweiss.com/
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Good day everyone. This is Nicole Ellis McGregor, the founder of the Overcomers Approach podcast. This podcast really highlights people overcoming, no matter where they are in their life, whether it's your career, being a parent, resetting yourself, whatever that is, the fact is that we may have barriers and challenges, but we all can overcome them, and sometimes we meet with people who can assist with that, whether that's a career coach, life coach, author, and so I am so excited to have Madeline Claire Weiss here. She is a life coach and a career coach as well.
Speaker 1:An author, she is a Harvard-trained, licensed psychotherapist, mindset expert and board-certified executive executive and, like I said, she is a career and life coach who helps busy people master their mind so they can maintain enjoyment, satisfaction and success in all areas of their life. She is co-author of the handbook Transitions Across the Lifespan and the author of the new release Getting Great Five-Step Strategy for Work and Life, and now helps executives, professionals and entrepreneurs create happy, healthy children. Madeline is launching what Is your Story A Personal Development Workbook for Kids. Madeline, I am so happy to have you here today. Thank you Well.
Speaker 2:I am so happy to be here.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you Like I told you when we had this discussion prior to me starting the recording of the podcast, I just really loved your background and your experiences. It really falls in the line with the Overcomers Approach podcast. Can you tell me how you got to you know, being a Harvard-trained licensed therapist? And that might be a long story, but that's a big question and career life coach. How did that trajectory happen? Tell me more about yourself, Thank you.
Speaker 2:So many ways to answer that question. My favorite way for this purpose is to tell you that when I was 15 years old and my father was 42, he died suddenly and I was such a feisty, spirited, mouthy little girl, and that hasn't changed all that much, for better and for worse. So people didn't talk to their children so much then, and there in my part of the world anyway, um, or listen even better in the way that parents aspire to today, um, and so I went around for years with a story in my head and a lot of my work. It springs from this idea that the mind makes up stories and then we think they're true and then get confined by them. But the story in my head was that he died of me because I was such a pain in the you know what. Yeah, and it wasn't until one day at the cemetery years later, with my mother, and I broke down about how all my fault it was and she said no, honey, it wasn't you, it was work. Wow.
Speaker 2:So my father became one of the 120,000 work stress related deaths per year in the US, and we have 750,000 roughly worldwide, and so no surprise as you said, I now help professionals, executives, entrepreneurs, manage their minds or master their minds, whichever word you prefer, so they can have those happier, healthier, more prosperous and productive lives we all want and I think can have more than we know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, madeline, thank you for sharing. You know, I really appreciate that, your transparency and being authentic about the transition and death of your father. I think that you said something that really resonated with me is that we all have this story into our adult life and it can impact our careers, our decisions, our life choices, how we parent, if we don't address it. And then I like the fact that you said it's our mind. It's really like shifting our mindset to really maybe go back and readdress that and figure out how we could use that to propel us and really like to make it our superpower. And I can even identify as a child.
Speaker 1:I had some experiences myself that were traumatizing. And then I held the belief in my mind, for whatever reason, and I, long story short, I just was really fear-based in a lot of spaces in my life. It was very hard to make a decision because of the traumatic experiences, so whether that was abandonment. I was a child of two teen parents who were not ready to parent me. So my grandparents took me in and they had 13 kids already. But I had a message in my mind even though my grandparents loved me, which were more like my parents that I just wasn't valued or I was going to be abandoned at some point in my life, so I needed to probably run before it happened. So I addressed that and I worked through that healing process. But it really impacted the decisions I made in my life.
Speaker 1:And I didn't realize that until I got therapy, and so I meet so many different people in my life who had similar or you know, some type of experiences where they are really carrying that well into their life and it's impacting them in a way that's keeping them stuck and holding them back keeping them stuck and holding them back.
Speaker 2:So the traditional psychotherapy, which I was trained as a classic psychotherapist before I morphed over to become a board certified executive care, like blah, blah, blah the traditional idea of that is to make that unconscious conscious so that we are more in charge of it than it is in charge of us. I don't think it's necessary even if it's, I don't even know if it's possible to make and you can tell me whether you agree with this or not to make all that go away. It's not necessary, right, right, we just have to be a little more in charge of it than it is in charge of us. And the way to get to that is to know about it, to know what that some people call it, like the tapes that are replaying, just to know what they are.
Speaker 2:I have this new client who is the managing partner of, I'll just say, a big firm yes, and I find myself doing what we call psychoeducation. He didn't know anything about the subconscious mind or the unconscious mind, right, and he was like he's enthralled to learn, right, that there's that he's not 100 in charge, there's this whole thing going on, that he doesn't know anything about, that is impacting his decision-making exactly the way you were just talking about. It's like life-shaping this thing, and we don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, yeah, to go to your point, yes, I do agree with you. It never really goes away, but how we manage it and how we use it in our life is very impactful. You know, yep, I love my parents. We have relationships now and we're walking this journey together. That's nice.
Speaker 1:Something could come up that makes me feel like I'm five years old again. You know something they said or did and, like you said, it really never completely goes away, but we manage it and once we learn, like the subconscious and the conscious mind because I'm just learning that myself and walking that journey how powerful that can be so that we can live a more fulfilling, purpose-filled life and, like you said, understanding that and I also thought that it would once you get therapy, it goes completely away. It doesn't. Good luck with that. Right, it doesn't. It's not going to be that fix. You know, we just have these tools that we're given to help us. You know, manage this and I'd like to say it could be used for a greater good in some capacity, but we just have to figure out like what that is.
Speaker 2:So I do completely agree with you on that. You know the brain. Some say it's kind of like a garden, right, and the whole idea is to plant new seeds. Yes, grow a new garden. So there are all these neural connections up here. That's where the story lives, yes, but we can plant new stories.
Speaker 2:I just did the thing. I did a four-week program, okay, at an inner city school. Okay, I just finished it this past week with a group of 10 year olds and I was like over the moon, first of all by how cute and funny they are. I know it's terrible. One of them said to me is this you on the? Actually it's not. One of them said to me it was the first comment, okay, of the whole course, right, is this you on the back of the book? I said yeah. She said oh, because you look so much younger here. That's how we started and it just got better, better from there.
Speaker 2:But so many of my clients have said that they wish they knew what they now know, like about all the things you were just talking about. They wish they knew that when they were eight and 10 years old and I was thinking I know, like, what a difference, what a difference it could have made to know that life is a story. So there's 6 times 70 million bits, no, 6 times 70 million zeros, bits of information in the universe. The senses send 11 million of those bits to the brain every second, and out of that we're conscious of 50. So we're not playing with a full of that, we're conscious of 50. Wow, so we're not playing with a full deck.
Speaker 1:No, we're not, and I understand that Right.
Speaker 2:So what I say to the kids is we don't wanna feel crazy, so we need something that kind of makes sense, otherwise we think we're nuts. So with this very limited information, we fill in the like, we delete things, we add things, we distort things, just to make it all make sense, yes, and that becomes the story. And I said and once you know that you can team up with your brain, yes, and make the story even better.
Speaker 1:I agree and I said, and once you know that you can team up with your brain, yes, and make the story even better, I agree. I so agree with you because I believe that and I'm not an educator, but I have some friends who are in education and I would just love at some point and I don't know how this is going to happen, or maybe it's part of homeschooling curriculum, or maybe it's the parents' onus to do this is to bring children into that awareness, just what you were talking about, because I almost feel like it needs to be part of the curriculum a little bit, you know, because it's a life skill that they really need. And it's like you're meeting these adults. It's never too late, that's one thing I believe, that are kind of finally figuring this out, because I'm a I'm a late learner too, but I'm I'm glad it's never too late. But if it was like if I would have known this at 18, where would I be, you know? But we all have a journey for a reason, you know, and I meet so many children.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that you said and I speak with children and I just I love them because they're so transparent, they're so authentic, they're going to say what's on their mind. Sometimes they don't have a filter, and I'm okay with that. Like I need to hear the truth, like I don't give it, you know whatever that is. And so I worked with youth and teens and they were just I didn't know what I was going to that day, but they was going to tell me if I was a little off that day cause I didn get enough sleep, it was going to let me know like it was. I mean, I mean down to like my hair. Like it's like did you do your hair today, nicole? And I was like, oh, I was rushing, you know, you didn't get to sleep today. Like I mean, and I appreciate that, because then I would go home and be like I need to get some sleep, like you know, like it was just just that simple, um, so I.
Speaker 2:I had one exchange. Actually, this was also the first session where one of the kids said something, like I said something, and one of the kids said, yeah, that's point of view. That's a 10-year-old saying that's point of view. We just talked about that in my last class. So I was so excited. I said did y'all hear what she just said? And this one next to me said yeah, that's a boy, that's not. But everyone had names that were not your stereotypical. Wow so, and they all had long hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like and they were all beautiful, yeah, and it was really funny. I must have handled that, okay. Yeah, I said sorry and just kept moving with the material and at the end the little boy came up and gave me a hug. I think he probably just appreciated how excited I was about how bright he was. I was just like, wow, wasn't that great. Well, I said listen to her until I was Exactly.
Speaker 1:And that's what I love about kids, because they will give it to you straight. And if you're, I almost feel like if your heart's right, whatever mistake we did, whatever we said wrong, they know our heart is connected, you know it's connected to the brain and you know all that that they will give us grace, no matter what.
Speaker 2:I think, that's exactly it. Yeah, that's exactly it. I think they could tell that I meant well and that. I had very high regard for them. Yes, even if I got that wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you showed up, you showed up with some information for them to engage in. That's very powerful, I think, for any group really. Well, you know at the end.
Speaker 2:I did evaluations. I had a little piece of paper with the evaluation thing on it and many of them said that what they appreciated most was learning new things. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that and I think they love that too. And then just the in-person connection. Just the space that we're in now, where everything's so social media driven, we've gotten kind of disconnected from authentic human connection and I think that's what people desire, but it's just the way that we're kind of moving. It could be hard sometimes, so I think that's a big thing. Why we're into that? Because I want to make sure and I want to make sure I ask a few questions regarding your other workbook, but this book. What's your Story? What inspired that? As you brought up the book for the kids, what ultimately inspired that for you, for children?
Speaker 2:that for you, for for children. My adult clients inspired that really okay, because, as I said, they were saying why didn't I know this? When I was 10? But also I was working with executives who were parents, yes, and I was noticing there's this like one little thing that they could tweak that made all the difference in the world.
Speaker 2:So, for an example, this woman worked for the treasury and she was traveling a lot I'm in dc, so everybody works for the state department or the treasury or whatever and so she had this very high powered, lots of travel type of job and her four-year-old, every time he saw her with the bag walking toward the door, would have a meltdown and it was really hard on the kid, her son, and hard on her husband. It was just hard for everybody. And what she would try to do was to say to him oh, but you and daddy will have so much fun and you'll do this and this and this and this, and I've done this before and you know I always come back and I'll be back on Wednesday and whatever. And what she didn't realize I mean it was so heart full of her to say all that but what she didn't realize was that in the middle of his meltdown. He can't. He can't do left brain logic with her very good right. And the trick was since he's in a right brain, wholly emotional meltdown yes, that she had to bring her right brain to his right brain, her emotion to his emotion, before she could be able to take him to a more logical place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she went right to the logical place and there was a big disconnect between her and her son. She adores, yeah, that one little thing, yeah and so, and so she tried it like what was there to lose, right? And so instead, when he would have the meltdown, she would say to him I know, this is always feel so hard. And she would use his words to repeat back to him what she heard him saying. And I love this story because the punchline is that by the time she got done empathizing with him, he was like go, just go, you know, because there was fun to be had with daddy and this was now getting tedious and boring.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, and, and I, I just want to add one thing, I'll go right ahead. That isn't a technique, a magical technique for just parents and children. Yes, it's for and children.
Speaker 2:It's for coworkers, it's for spouses, it's for neighbors, it's for friends, that when someone is coming to you full of that kind of emotion, there's a human tendency to want them to calm down because it's hard to bear for the listener to want them to calm down, because it's hard to bear for the listener, yes, but if you lean in instead, and again, if even easier and better is like repeat back, yes, and I shouldn't have said easier, because it's not that easy, but still, it's a technique, it's a tool. Hey, the reason I'm saying it's not that easy. When I was training at Harvard to become a mediator, they told us to do that. Put us in dyads. They told us to repeat back with the other person. I said I'm not doing that Really. I said that is the most inauthentic, contrived thing I ever heard of and I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2:They said okay, is the most inauthentic, contrived thing I ever heard of and I'm not doing that. And they said okay, well then you can be the other part of the diet and the other person will do it with you. Okay, and when the person, you have to try this. Everyone is listening. If you never did this, you have to try this. When the person repeated back to me what I had said, it was like a warm bath. It is. It was. It was so nervous system calming. Yes, and then, like you can think and you can hear because your nervous system is calmed, you can't think and you can't hear when you're a wreck.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. I so appreciate that. I appreciate that on a number of points, you know, because as I walk this journey in my personal professional life that is one of the I work within dispatch, but I'm not a dispatcher. But when they hear me having conversations with people who are dysregulated and I'm not a therapist either but they were like, well, what are you doing? And I'm like I'm just actively listening and I'm just affirming what they're saying, and sometimes I do have to repeat back what they're saying so that they can become more regulated, because their nervous system, the logic is gone, you know, because you're in a reactive crisis state and so, and I was like that's, it's no big thing, you know, but I'm just, that's how I, it seems, to calm things down, and so, and also, like in my personal life too, family is a little harder because you're closer to them, you know because we're a little dysregulated at the same time.
Speaker 1:So I love the fact that you said that and how there was some resistance at first, but once you practice it and put it into practice and action, just how it works.
Speaker 2:It's amazing how it, how it, how it really resets things I love that.
Speaker 1:Well, I wanna get to a few more questions here before we close out. I feel like we're having an authentic, genuine conversation and some of the information you're giving is just. It's just so impactful for people's lives, no matter where they're at in their life, whether it's being a parent. You want to make a shift to professionals and entrepreneurs and you're really getting to great five-step strategy to work in life. Some people are stuck, whether it's in their career, entrepreneurship. They get in this, they get immobilized, based on whatever they're dealing with. It could be something personal or it could be about that story they have in their head how does your book? And, of course, they can get the workbook too, and we'll leave an opportunity at the end to give information to them if they want to get that information. This one, yes, yes this one.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, how um that? That strategy? How did that come into play? Yes, yeah. So one day I said to myself, because my background is really varied yeah, business background, I have a psychotherapy background. I've studied evolutionary psychology. I studied believe, believe it or not Advaita Vedanta prehensile tradition for 25 years. So, like I just like a hungry learner. So I have so much stuff in my toolkit that there's no telling and just the way you're leading organically here, that's how I practice. So, therefore, what I'm doing is based on the interaction in the moment. So I said to myself like, basically, what are you doing? Like that seems to be working.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I laid out all my files. Yes, I sat there and I looked at them and I said what do all these people and cases and what the process, what's the common denominators? And what I came up with was this five-step process that it seemed to me that everybody went through. Okay, to get from meh in their life to something that felt like a great life.
Speaker 2:Yes, I want to mention that I have examples of clients who, like one MD, picked up his whole family, with their consent, of course, moved from the States to the other side of the world somewhere because he liked the healthcare system better and he thought that would be a better environment in which he could practice his love and his art and his craft and all of that. But at the other end of the continuum there are some people who didn't change a thing externally and instead sort of rearranged the mindset, rearranged the furniture in their heads, I always like to say, and fell in love with exactly where they are. Yes, so some of it is internal and some of it is external. When I talk about the environmental fit, the inside of your HUD is an environment too, but so is all the choices you made outside of you. That's right, and they have to be aligned with who we are if we're gonna feel happy and healthy. I agree.
Speaker 1:And prosperous and productive. Yes, you know, madeline, I love the fact that you have so many, you know so much background. It's so integrative as well, because I really feel like it's really interconnected in some ways and I love the fact that I think you it sounds like you cultivate it to the person you know, to what their need is. Like you said, there's an environment in her head and I completely agree with that. And then the relocation I love the story of the MD that relocated. I can definitely identify with that. And then the relocate I love the story of the MD that relocated. I can definitely identify with that. You know, me and my husband relocated from Minnesota to Arizona and I just wanted better weather. I was just tired of the snow. And then I also wanted to create some boundaries with some family members too, because I just was exhausted at this time in my life, like I, I'm basically with like the rock and caregiver of my family.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Start creating those boundaries, like I'm giving you guys the tools, but I don't have the capacity to serve in the manner that I did a large portion of my life, and so when I got to Arizona, I just took a breath. I was like the weather is beautiful, but my family members were still there. They were still, you know, they could call me, you know, and I love my family. It's not all, I would say. It was just a few where I just had to. We were still dealing with the same issues. I was in another state.
Speaker 2:You have a big family too. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 1:It is, and you know, with therapy, you know I did the genogram. I have a complex one too, where I had to pull out extra sheets, you know, to even, you know it's, it's very non-traditional, very complex, a lot of historical trauma. And I just showed up in this family. I used to ask why, why, god, god like, why did you put me in this family? But I wouldn't change a thing. It was for a divine reason, um, it served a higher purpose. But um, you know I'm, it never goes away, like you said. But how can we manage it? How can we tap more into our subconscious and unconscious and just use more of what we have up here, because there's a whole lot that we don't use, um, and so I get it. So I love the fact that internal, external and it coming into alignment to, to how, how can we just be functional and purposeful and fulfilled?
Speaker 2:so I said something wonderful that reminded me of something my grandmother said, and it's possible that everyone's grandmother said this. I don't know, because I I have a feeling she didn't make it up, but she said that when you were saying, like, why did you give me right? She said that if everyone put all their problems or their whole life or whatever, in a brown bag and sat in a circle and everyone put their problems in the bag and then put the bag in the middle and then they had to pick one, she said that everyone would pick their own. And that feels true to me. That feels so true to me like a lot went wrong in my life.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I wouldn't have anyone else Like it no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no. So I I definitely could say that I had to work my work up to that. I had to do some work, but I would not change a thing. It impacts the work that I do as a community resource navigator, because I'm meeting people who've had similar journeys and they don't think there's any options or solutions. And there is. Or I come from this type of family. I can relate Maybe different but same. You know whatever that is.
Speaker 1:But sometimes people there's power in stories too. That's why. But sometimes people there's power in stories too. That's why I had the podcast, because there's power in storytelling, because people need to know what you've lived through, what you've accomplished, what you've conquered, you know how you're giving back, whatever that looks like. People need to know that people like yourself care, you know, and so I just think that it really comes full circle. And I know we're closing up here because we're at the 30 minute mark. So I have two more questions. When people you mentioned something, we had the discussion. We need to keep balance, and I say it's more like sustainability, because there's never really balance, or maybe there is, but I like to look at it as sustainability, because your hormones could change. You could have an accident one day. It could just throw everything off. And you said it's more like quality. Could you tell me more about that?
Speaker 2:So the Hindus something I learned from all that study have a concept called good company. Yes, and good company is not just the people you people your life with, although it is that, but it's the music that you listen to, it's the food that you eat, it's the literature you read. It's an intentional way of choosing what gets into your life.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I love that. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2:I was thinking to what you were saying before. That, though, which may have made me not exactly answer this question.
Speaker 1:Oh no, you're fine Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I have to tell you you, one of the kids in the group yeah, I just did with the kids toward the end said to me did anything bad ever happen to you? Yeah, it turned out to be good great question and I said actually, yeah, that in.
Speaker 2:Was it 2003 or four? I forget Somehow. Don't ask me how, everyone asks me how and I don't know the answer to the question. I got flesh eating disease and I was in the hospital for seven weeks. I took 10 trips to the OR. I was in PT for six months and I said to him it was truly as terrible as anything. I mean, it was really awful. And I said, and now I feel like man, if I could do that and come out with a smile, what can't I do? That's right and it has been so, you know, as an example of something really terrible that had a positive effect, there's a kind of resilience that if it wasn't there before that, it was certainly there after that. That's right, yeah. So I thought. I thought his question was a 10 year old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, kids need to know that. You know, because the space that I work in, you know there are kids dealing with mental health, behavioral health, suicidal ideations and and that goes back, maybe, to a story, that goes back to an experience. Whatever that is is an underlying need, but that's a question that I think a lot of kids would ask.
Speaker 2:You know what's a nice exercise for that? Go ahead this idea. And I did this myself a long time ago when I also had cancer. I had a doctor tell me once. He said you walk into the room like tada, and then he said, on paper you're a train wreck. So when I had cancer yeah, it was a thyroid cancer and it was. It was mild, it wasn't like one of the bad ones, but it was cancer and so I was a little freaked out.
Speaker 2:So, there was this exercise I learned, where you're sitting on a park bench and someone joins you, the kind of caring, supportive, wise, whatever else you want to say other that we all should have had in our life, whatever else you want to say other that we all should have had in our life. Not all of us did but Right, sitting there, listening, yes, and then sharing, yes, wisdom, yes, kind of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Yeah, Madeline, I got so much out of this conversation. One you have a lot of expertise, a lot of knowledge. You've been on a lot of platforms and I just want to thank you for being on my platform today. Thank you, and just the fact that you're giving back to, you're factoring in parents, you're factoring in people who are, whether they're in the profession or entrepreneurs or whatever role they're in, or maybe they want to reset and pivot whatever that is there's.
Speaker 1:There's tools that we have that we could use. Definitely, the subconscious and the unconscious are very powerful, and how we use those. There's power in storytelling. There's a power in the story we have in our heads and how we could reshift that and how we could work through that and what that looks like. I definitely like that.
Speaker 1:And even your transparent, authentic stories about having the flesh eating disease that could have killed you. Oh for sure, A survivor of cancer. I know there's different types of cancer. You know I'm actually having a thyroid scan today, so that resonated with me. No, no, I love it. Everything happens for a reason. You know.
Speaker 1:I think your lived experience talking about that and I've had these thyroid scans for the last 20 years. It's just they constantly have to. As you know, you got endocrinologists you get to see them once a year and you get your labs and all that, and so I appreciate that. You know, I always have a little anxiety for my appointments, but you sharing that story was very helpful and so I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:And you know just the stories that you shared, you know, on this platform, and, just like you said, the story of resilience resonated, I think, with me and my listeners and the child that asks you you know, has anything bad happened to you and it turned out to be good? And that's really the theme and the value of Overcomer's Approach, and that is, you may have hit a rock, you may have had a loss, you may have experienced a setback or tragedy or trauma, whatever that is. There's tools out there, there's people out there, there's information, there's books, there's workbooks, and you're one of those people. So, if my listeners wanted to get in touch with you, what is your web link, Madeline?
Speaker 2:Okay, so everything there are free goodies. There's this free power breathing exercise. It's otherwise known as a 30 second mindset reset could be everybody's best friend for life to have this little thing by your side. So that's on my website. There are hundreds of blog posts on everyday things that matter to us all time, money and stuff like that and all my social links are there also, and so the website link. Oh, and also there's a button if somebody would like to have a free strategy session to talk about themselves and this in this context, kind of a thing.
Speaker 2:So, it's all at madelineweisscom.
Speaker 1:Okay, madeline Weiss, and it's spelling there right. Yep, I have it right there, and I also have the information too. So what I'll do is, when I put the podcast usually takes me a couple of weeks because I'm doing the work in my hobby and podcast thing I'll make sure that it's in there in the information when I put in the description of the podcast.
Speaker 2:You do a beautiful job at your hobby.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you, I really appreciate it. It gives me fulfillment and it supports my core values, and I appreciate it. I didn't think I could do it while working, but I had to use some tools to help me manage that and that and and, and it's working Some days not so good, some days good but I'm figuring this out and so I'm happy about that.
Speaker 2:Well, it has been a privilege and a pleasure for me to be with you and your listeners today, so I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 1:Thank you, madeline. It has been a pleasure and an honor. Thank you, okay.