Overcomers Approach
“The Overcomers Approach” podcast showcases stories of resilience, where individuals transcend challenges to achieve personal and professional success. With a focus on spiritual, mental, emotional, physical, and financial growth, the podcast inspires listeners to embrace their potential and thrive in all areas of life. Join us to learn how overcoming adversity can lead to evolution, healing, and lasting success.
Overcomers Approach
She Survived, Started Eleven Companies, And Still Has Time For Nineteen Grandkids
What if surrender is the catalyst your strategy has been missing? I sit down with transformational leader and serial founder Holly Porter to trace the arc from a 70‑day near‑death experience to a purpose-first life defined by service, intuition, and bold execution. Holly unpacks SHIFT—Surrender, Hope, Intuition, Faith, Transformation—and shows how each element turns chaos into clarity, not as a slogan, but as a lived operating system for health, business, and legacy.
Holly shares the moment she returned with two clear directives: start a nonprofit and walk away from an enticing tech partnership that wasn’t aligned. That choice set off two grueling years of grief, legal battles, and hard family realities. She didn’t sugarcoat it. Instead, she found anchors: morning boundaries for deep work and healing, a “better’s better” mindset for incremental progress, and a commitment to listen—truly listen—to her body, to God, and to the quiet cues that shape smart decisions. You’ll hear how symbols from a guided hypnosis session confirmed brand choices she’d already made by instinct, and why those confirmations helped her rebuild with peace.
We also dive into prosperity with a fresh lens. Money isn’t the point; impact is. Holly explains how spiritual alignment can accelerate strategy, why she’s building an international retreat association to set ethical standards in a booming industry, and how retreats unlock creativity, courage, and the capacity to change. Her aim is to scale and then become a “check writer,” funding solutions that repair broken systems without getting trapped in the ick. From doing hard things to redefining self-care as health care, this conversation offers practical tools and hard-won wisdom for anyone feeling called to step into a larger life.
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This is Nicole, the founder of the Overcomers Approach podcast, where I meet with different people from different walks of life, different experiences, and different journeys. But the overarching theme is that we have the ability to overcome no matter what we face in life, whether that's personal, professional, spiritual, career-wise, just life experiences, along with experts on the podcast, which I really love. And I have Holly Porter here today. She's a transformational leader, keynote speaker, 17 times bestseller, author, and creator of 11 startup companies. That's amazing. She's the CEO of Retreat R, a prop tech and concierge concierge. I'm probably not saying that right, concierge platform helping retreat leaders and entrepreneurs build profitable, purpose-driven, plat, purpose-driven experiences after surviving a 70-day near-death experience with COVID-19. Wow, we're happy you're here today, Holly. Holly's turned her story into a mission to help others align spiritually with strategy through her shift framework, surrender, hope, intuition, faith, and transformation. She is also the founder of the Adventure Bucket Wishlist Foundation, empowering women to lead with purpose, passion, and presence. Holly is family first with eight adult children and nearly 19 grandchildren who inspire her life and legacy. Wow, Hallie. Holly, that is amazing. Congratulations on your children, grandchildren, and creating legacy, purpose and presence. I'm so happy to have you here today. I almost don't even know where to start because I feel like there's so much.
SPEAKER_00:I had um in 70 days, about the first three and a half weeks I was in the hospital, I had there's three different things. There's out-of-body experiences, there's spiritual transformative experiences and near-death experiences. And I had all of them. One spiritual, one near death, and a whole bunch of out-of-body. Um, it did change me. It was interesting that I could define the differences between all of them, even though I didn't understand for almost two years after the experience that they were all different. And they put a definition on them. Um and also a dream or a lucid dream, a nightmare, there's a difference. And so it was it was changing. And when you're specifically told things to come back and do, uh, you better do them. That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Like you said, it wasn't your time yet. And like you said, you uh you can give you know specific kind of definitions of what each one did for you. But like you said, which resonates with me, when it's not your time and you're told you got some business to still do, you have some things to still do, you still have legacy to create, you come back and you do them, yes.
SPEAKER_00:But you don't have to have a near-death experience to actually make your own shift.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. I agree with that 100%.
SPEAKER_00:It's a good story to tell, but you don't need to do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I love the fact that you clarified that. Like you said, you don't have to, but the great thing is we have people like yourself that may have had that experience. Yeah, they could speak to those that don't even have to have that experience to walk, you know, that same journey, similar journey. Yes, I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it just takes us some of us, it takes us longer and more school and ox, and usually making mistakes three times before it gets to my thick skull and putting me in a coma and throwing me in the hospital for 70 days so that I would listen. Because I think that's what it was for me. So I think, yeah, if we can learn from other people's challenges and experiences, why go through them yourself and do all the suffering? Let's just skip that part.
SPEAKER_02:That's right. So when I I guess you know, as you came through that, you know, and what was fear? Did you would boldness or confidence, or was this a journey like when you knew you had more things to do? Like, what was the first thing that was on your mind when you kind of walked out of that or walked through that, or maybe still walking through it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, for a long time it was to get better because just I was in two hospitals and they wanted to release me to a third one that was a rehabilitation, and I begged them not to. So I had therapist, I had nine doctors, I had like speech therapy, uh, cognitive or let's see, yeah, probably cognitive. What's the word cognate? Mid. I can't even say the word.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Cognitive. Um, I mean, uh physical, you name it. I occupational, I had every therapy there was, and nine doctors. So I think it getting out to me. My motto was better's better. And every day, like celebrate something that's a success because I was on oxygen for months. All the diagnoses, you know, started coming in after that. I had life-threatening diagnoses. I wasn't out of the waters for a long time, couldn't really work um much for a year and a half.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, okay.
SPEAKER_00:But but on the other hand, in my near death, I was told two specific things. I was first of all, I wasn't given a choice to stay there where I was, which I would have. People that have lost people just know that is such a great place. Why on earth would anybody ever want to come back to Earth? Or why in heaven would anyone ever want to come back to Earth? Uh, because I I didn't get the choice, though. I got I got told a couple things to do, and then I got sent back. But the two things I got told was to start a nonprofit, and I was given the name, but I was not given the mission. So I had to figure that out. Um, and then I was told not to partner with this company uh on a new tech business that's called Retreat RR that I was just starting. And I had pitched it the day I found out I had COVID. I was so excited because they had a billionaire backer. I'm thinking slam dunk, you know. I was excited about that. And I was told not to partner with them, that that wasn't the highest and best thing to do. And so those two things I immediately um, as soon as I could physically, uh, it took me about three months, maybe four after I got out of the hospital to get them incorporated and get them started. But I immediately got to work on that.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, such a role model and such an amazing story. Well, and I think, you know, um, you know, speaking of lived experience, my husband recently had a stroke like six months ago, so he's in the rehabilitative process. And yeah, and and I I said, you know, it's just not your time, and you know, there's a bigger purpose for you. It may pivot and look completely different um than what you know life looked because very successful prior to and still a success, but it just um life shifts and changes, and I love the fact that you was obedient to coming back and doing what you were called to do, you know, and and um I think that inspires others, like you said, you don't necessarily have to have an experience, and even um I I resonate with that somewhat. I didn't have a near-death experience, but just going out and do what you know in your heart you're called to do, um, and you know, being that person there to help support people live in their purpose and presence.
SPEAKER_00:Like, yes, yeah, and and we all need to be that, you know. Yeah, service was so important to me my whole life, and to go from always being the one giving it to having to now receive. I mean, you I had no cup to pour from, it was as empty as it could get, and I had to rely. I mean, in the hospital, I couldn't even, I mean, people had to change my butt, wipe my butt, you know. It was like I could do nothing, I was so weak, and and that just that's part of my shift is the birds want to surrender, and that's part of it. You sometimes, as leaders and entrepreneurs, we don't want uh other people to see that weakness in us, and sometimes that's the first biggest step you can take is to just surrender and say, Look, I can't do it alone. Nobody does it alone. No, they really want your success, nobody does it alone.
SPEAKER_02:I completely agree with you, which makes me when I read about the the shift framework, building a soul aligned business, focused, how to surrender. Some people surrendering might be a little difficult for people, especially for those goal getters that just go out and do it, or they don't want to appear vulnerable, you know. Yeah, and that first step, like, how would you recommend someone even they you know begin to surrender to you know what they need to do or what they're they're called to do? Like, what does that look like if someone has some difficulty even doing that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, and especially if they're not a spiritual or religious type person, yeah because to me, the faith, you know, faith is part of that shift word as well. And I feel like the shape the faith is part of the surrender to know that you believe in something strong enough to make it better, to know that you you have done everything that you can do in your willhouse and your power, that you've got to give it up to some kind of a higher power, whether and and maybe it's not God or maybe it's not your higher, maybe it's a person, you know, and you just need to admit you need the help. That's to me, faith goes with the surrender completely.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yeah. So surrender, faith, and they align with their working together in tandem to even get you, like you said, to surrender to a higher power to God. Um, to know that you just can't you can't do it alone. Um, and I think with that surrendering, I think probably all types of other things kind of roll out of that once you yeah, once you do it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, the intuition part to me comes in to the knowing. It's it's like I always had that gift of knowing, not not on a psychic level, I don't mean that. Just when people ask me, how do you know that? Well, when you have a gift of knowing, you just know something within your core, you know it. And so everybody has intuition that that some sort of knowing within you, that gut feeling that oh, I I I really my gut said not to do it, and I did it anyway. Yeah, but it's like it's listening to that, and I think that can be a big part of the surrender piece as well, is listening to what your needs are.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and I think with listen with the intuition, I think there's a level of trust that you know, once you once you tap into your intuition, that you gotta trust that you're you're doing this, like you're doing what your gut is telling you to do. I think intuition doesn't get speak spoken on enough. Like I believe that we're created with a lot of solutions already in us, and when intuition kicks in, some people may hold back a little, but like you said, that gut feeling to do it, and you know that it's there, you know. Um, I love the fact that you're aligning those and they and then that leads into transformation, you know, for your purpose, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And sometimes that can be that's the hardest thing to accept, yes, because transformations change and people don't like change.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, I do personally.
SPEAKER_00:I love change because it it's kind of like competition for me, it just makes everybody step up and be better. And what is wrong with that?
SPEAKER_02:There's nothing wrong with that. Like you said, I think um, and I love change too. I love evolving and growing, but then there's also there's this aspect of me that the familiar, yeah, you're just comfortable with what's familiar and that's safe, you know. And sometimes, you know, we need to be able to translate safety into change, you know, and so I think the transformation piece and all that makes complete sense to me. Yes, 100%, yeah, because it's accepting it.
SPEAKER_00:I think that acceptance goes with the transformation because you've got to accept it to transform, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yes, yes, I agree 100%. How does strategy, like you said in spirituality, work together, you know, to strategize your your business or strategize like your goals or your next move? How do those two align? Because some people may see them as separate, but you think those may work together when it comes to right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, for me, um, I was more of a religious spiritual person before all this, and now I would say they flip-flopped. I'm definitely more of a spiritual. And so I think um when you bring in that intuition, it's it's listening, not just to your gut, but your gut can also be your spiritual piece of things that's right. And and then to me, when you're listening, truly listening, and I don't mean just to the higher power of the God, whatever, like to anything you need to listen to, like just being present and just listening. To me, strategy becomes easy because those answers become clear.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Uh, I that really resonate with that. I think um, with listening, what I've learned in my life, like you said, we just we have to listen, but in that listening, it's being present, like it's being present, kind of grounded. You got to get out the distractions in order to really actively listen to what's going on. Those distractions could be anything, social media, food, you know, uh just something, you know, maybe it's an addiction, maybe it's food, you know, and it could be those distractions get in the way of like your purpose. It's hard to have a strategy if you're distracted, you can't really listen effectively. So I like the fact that you said like listening um is key. And I and I honestly totally believe that as well. That that's like a good um like confirmation for me, and I'm sure my listeners as well. Um, I think when I'm talking to other people, or me and my colleagues or friends are talking about like our next goals or whatever, what would seem to come up is like, I know what I need to do, I know what I gotta do, I know what I've been called to do, but distractions can get in the way and it's hard to listen. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Uh when people how when people go through pain, you know, or they they hit a failure uh either in their business in life, um, some people let that keep them stuck. But you you, I think from what I read from your bio, that could really be the platform to kind of spring you into your purpose, your business, your possibility. Uh, once you tap into that, how can people tap into their pain to so that it's just not just pain? Like there, I believe there's always purpose in pain. Yeah. But how could that help them kind of lay the foundation for what their next move will be, or or they're working through their business and they think about those failures that have come, or they think about they hit a hard hit or had some type of flow in a relationship and they get stuck. But our pain could actually potentially lead us into our purpose and and and what we're really called to do. How explain more of that to Yeah, I've got a huge uh well, I've got a story around that.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna say for me, um, I I immediately started the two companies within, like I said, three, four, four months after I got the hospital, and then for almost two years after, so it's been four now, for almost two years after, complete and utter hell I went through the worst years of my take every bad day you've ever had and times it by a hundred, and that's how heavy everything felt every day for me. I prayed that I would have died every day. I prayed, why did God save me to put me through this? Like, why am I here? My relationships with siblings and kids, like you think you almost died, they'd be gravitated towards you because they almost lost you, and it was like I repelled them. And I was dealing with some really hard things with attorneys, with grandkids, with DCFS, you know, fighting for custody and things. And it was like, shouldn't have been my fight. And it was like seeing this horrible, broken, awful system, and feeling going from such a place of love to a place of hate, you know, and just feeling so every emotion. I processed so many, my mom dying, my grandbaby dying, all this stuff at once that I hadn't processed before. And I I realized, you know, it didn't end well for my husband and I with these grandkids. It was heartbreaking to where I had to walk away at the end of the couple years and say, I gave it my all. I did everything above and beyond possibly what I could possibly do. I would have fought to my death, right? Yeah, it was like the mama bear.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:It was that path was chosen for me, you know. You know, that was how it went. And it was interesting because it so the pain, the grief, the you know, processing people that the grief from people that are living to me is way harder than processing grief because there's no closure. You know you're on this planet with them and they still exist here. And so super, super hard. Well, at the end of the two years, I started really researching. Um, I I found out about IM's conference, which is International Association for Near Death Studies. I went to it that year, learned about out-of-body experiences, the near death, the spiritual, they were different. Um, called a mentor of mine that was a hypnotist. Um he had trained me for hypnosis, and I said, Hey, would you do? I was also, you know, knew I was writing a book and I was did wanted to be in an integrity. I didn't have there were gaps to my near death story, even though the other ones I I had figured out, but there were gaps missing. And I said, Would you do a hypnosis session on my near death so that I can, you know, see if there's some things missing that I can do it was almost like having another near death. I hate to compare it to that because you know, one was so spiritual and one was like mortal here, you know. Um, but he agreed and we did that. And I'll tell you what, the the confirmations, I mean, I was coming out of such a dark place, such an emotional fractured place of those two years. I needed that. And I think God knew I needed knew I needed that. And I ended up, you know, plus I wanted to be there in hypnosis. You can come out of it at any time, but I didn't want to be because I had asked for that. I wanted that experience. And I ended up in what I call the in-between. He took me to this in-between place where the dark was on the right and the light was on the left. And I was like, wait, this isn't my stadium of light that was in my near death experience at all. What is going on? And I mean, there's a lot of details. It's it's it's a longer story than I'm gonna share. But I don't know, there was an entity there. Uh, we did speak to him, his name was Darby. He wanted my light, he took me. So I believe he took me from the near-death experience that I had, like that I couldn't remember and brought me there. Um, he eventually let me go because that was my light. I had earned it and he couldn't stop it. But I saw a few symbols in this. I saw a tree, and that gave me a ton of peace back. It was like God, it was a God gift, I call it, because when I branded Retreat R R Company and we were doing the logo, I said it needed to have a tree in it. Yeah, and in this hypnosis, here I saw a tree that just confirmed to that I had created that and didn't even remember it was part of this whole experience. And then I also, so because you know, and that was the retreat R. Um also when I got the logo back, it had 11 leaves and 11 roots, which is one, one, one, one, very significant. If you don't know what that means, go look it up. I got out the hospital on one one one one. My birthday's one one. There's just around that number. So that was like made me feel very peaceful. And then when I w did get over to the light, um the the matter was creating it, would go together and it would come create hearts. And even in the dark, the hearts would all go to the the light. And I thought, well, of course they do, you know. So when I get to the light, all of a sudden these hearts are like pink hue, like rose quart-colored hearts. And again, same peaceful fooling. I was told to do that nonprofit. We did a fundraiser and the first gala in all the gift bags. I made sure I knew intuitively that every bag needed to have a rose-colored heart in it. And here, two years later, I'm at my or a year later, I'm at this hypnosis session, and there are those hearts. And I thought, you know, what a God of love. And that was the other thing I got told. I got told I only had seen in my life review good. And so in the hypnosis session, I asked why. And I didn't see God, but God said, I'm showing you the good because that's what matters.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And I thought, of course it does, you know. And then he said to me the words, love them where they're at. If I would have remembered that those two years before, I wouldn't have had that experience. Those lessons, which I believe are now for philanthropy work, I have to do in the future. I wouldn't choose to go through that again. Right. But the lessons I learned out of it are gonna help. So I mean, how many sons and grandsons can I save because mine? I I couldn't save mine, you know? And so it was it was just a lot of learning, but it was so it's that hope, and that's where the hope comes in the shift acronym. You know, there's always something to be hopeful for and to have hope for. And that was a big lesson for me that yeah, I don't want to repeat that lesson. I don't want to be in that place in that space again. I mean, I worked through that whole thing. I was I was medically challenged, physically, financially, everything challenged, and I still work through it. And so I would say that to the listeners there's there's just always that. I always say it's the light at the end of the tunnel, no pun intended, you know. But watch, watch for those sprinkles of gifts that are always out there because if we focus on the negative, that's what we're gonna attract. But if we focus on the positive, for me, it was better's better. That was my motto. And I just I wanted to be better. I didn't want to live in that. I could have been on disability the rest of my life for so many of my diagnoses. I'm about 95% now, but I was only 70 for a long time. I thought that was my new norm. And 70% of your hundred sucks.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yes. So wow.
SPEAKER_00:So for me, it's just I just always want to focus on, you know, the good and what I what uh why what purpose am I here to do? What who can I serve?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, there's a few things you said that really resonated with me. I think, you know, when anyone's going through a storm, you know, no matter what that is, I ultimately those storms can burn something really beautiful out of it. And I think for, you know, my own experience or experience that I've been aware of, you know, um, even in my own family where I think uh trying to really control the outcome um and fighting for what you know is right, but knowing that I think uh now I'm in a space where I just love people where they're at and know that I'm still working on myself. I'm flogged, I'm flogged, you know, as much as I think I have it together. There's still work for that I gotta work on, you know, and um I and and and my expectations for certain situations, you know. Um, because I think if we fight so hard, we we're not your cup is really, like you said, completely empty. And just kind of looking out of that experience and say, hey, there's many other people that need to be saved. Maybe this experience that was purpose for whatever, for whatever reason, but out of that, so much legacy can come out of that for other people. And I think that perception and view is just so helpful for me and I'm sure my listeners. And like you said, don't focus on the negative so much. I think our brain can go to the negative rapidly, you know. I know, and just you know, just know that there's good in everything and in every experience and what what is there to learn from it or how can we go from it? So I love the fact that you mentioned that. Um, you know, because some people that you know, they you we could talk about like so many accolades and so many rewards, but some people to go through the trial to get to the rewards, some people talk about that much. Yeah, and so some people fear going into their purpose because of, you know, um, you may go through a trial, you may go through a little fire, whatever that is, but know that you're gonna make it out on the other side, and there's purpose in it. There's definitely purpose in it. It may not feel like it at the time, but I I love you know the fact that you, you know, said more about that because I think that really resonates with a lot of people, and I'm myself as well. So that that's awesome. Yeah, I I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, nobody does it alone, nobody finds success alone. Yeah, everybody needs help, and accepting it is a big part of that.
SPEAKER_02:I agree. Exactly. I completely agree with you. What do you you've you've launched 11 successful businesses in your life? What did you learn through each of those 11 experiences that you feel like you still take with you and you you run with it? Is there anything that you learned from those experiences?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I would think the overlining thing is that I could do hard things because that's not easy. I mean, people laugh and go, I could barely do one company or two, but every every one of them had a purpose. Some of them did great, some of them were big, some of them were small. Pardon me. No, that's but I think um I actually just incorporated my 12th, and that was not on my radar, but while I was writing my book, yeah, I was inspired so much spiritually that I knew this needed to happen. So it's it's um an international retreat association. So it goes along with my retreat company, but with two to three million retreat leaders estimated out there, there's not a one hub of standards and business best practices. And so I'm creating it and I am like so excited about it.
SPEAKER_02:So I love it, I love it, man. And you just you you're you're running with it, and you like you said, you can do hard things, you know, we're and we're equipped to. Yeah, I I love the fact that you said that. How is your definition of prosperity changed since your life experience? You know, because prosperity can mean so many different things, yes, so yeah, what does it mean for you now? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I had prosperity events um prior to COVID in Las Vegas, the live ones called prosperity event, the prosperity event. And um it even that it money was never really my motivator. I mean, I needed to make the world go round, and you can be prosperous in so many different things.
SPEAKER_02:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, love and family, and there's other things besides money. When people hear prosperity, I think they think of it, you know, as a naughty word because it's like, oh, money's bad. You know, we're we're just taught so many things negative about it. And for me, now it's interesting because money wasn't my vote motivator, but now I see less time. I'm older, yeah. Second chance of life. I got shown the end result, like what you need to be doing, figure it out, right? And so I get the little breadcrumbs along the way, but I still have to use my own brain and willpower and health and physical stamina to make it happen. And now it's like I want to figure out a way to make money faster because for me it's to build something, to scale it, and then maybe be a shareholder or sell it later to do my philanthropy work. That's yeah, I mean, my goal. This may not resonate with very many people, but and and it wouldn't have ever before with me. I just want to be a check writer. I don't need to be in that scene of the government DCFS crap that I was dealing with, how horrible the system is and how broken it is. I want to be the fixer. I want to be like, no, you that's your job to figure it out, right, and be able to help support financially that way and make make it happen. Because I saw the ick, I don't want to be in the ick, I want to in the goodness of it all, you know. And I don't need my name on stuff. That's not what it's about. To me, it's exactly where where can you serve the most people the best way?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I like that. You know, where could we serve people in the best way and and and to do it in a way that, like you said, in my mind, I just think strategy, like we don't want to waste a whole lot of time, especially when time or on the other side of our time, you know, we don't want to waste a whole lot of time, you know, kind of building this and like and and in and I, you know, how can we be streets whether that's building it, reselling it, scaling it, you know, whatever you need to do with the time we have, and optimally more people get blessed from that whole experience outside of ourselves because I feel like it's much bigger than us.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I can't think of uh the retreat industry by 2029, it will be a 363 billion dollar industry. I can't think of a better place to put effort into more transformation than that. Maybe there is, but I can't think of one. So that's that's what I feel like I got the idea for a reason. How strange is it that there isn't one that really exists?
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like, well, I guess it was waiting for me to create it, you know. And the creator gave me the idea to create it, so I'm grateful. And I just I know the right people will show up.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, for sure. And they're waiting, actually. Like you said, the right people show up. We're actually waiting for the you for this to happen, you know, there's people already waiting for this to align so that they could be present for it. So I I definitely believe, totally believe you like in that 100%, you know. Um, in terms of why do you think, and it's a like you said, it's a it's a multi-billion dollar business retreats. Um, and I think they're so beneficial in whatever capacity you want to use your retreat for, whether it's career, business combination, personal relationships, whatever. I think when people get away and just kind of reset and just new ideas around like-minded people, or just and they have a guide to support them with that, like they come back so changed and refreshed. I'm speaking for myself as well. Thoughts and solutions are there that were in there, but I needed to get to get away to kind of refresh and regroup for that. So I love that. Yeah, and that's a play. More creativity, yeah. I more creativity, more imagination, like tapping into all that, like it's there for a reason. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, and then uh, and then I I'm closing out on my last question. Um, your legacy of your children and your grandchildren, creating that legacy for them. I I just love that. I I love that the word legacy because I think it's so meaningful, you know, as we transition um to leave that legacy, not only with your family, but other people can benefit from your legacy. I think it's so much bigger than we even know. Yeah. What keeps you uh going and how do you maintain your your self-care? Because you you you went through the near death experience, you have your family, your legacy, um, you know, and and I, you know, I kind of can see what keeps you going, but what do you do for self-care to just um keep that cup filled, you know, as you pour out, pour out, pour out. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I made a rule uh few years ago, and I would on my calendar from like I'd book off like 6 a.m. because I was an early riser. And from six to ten, I wouldn't do any like calls, podcasts, nothing. It was just like kind of my time. It was kind of selfish time in a way, but it was like to me that was self-care. But for me, the last few years, I had to choose a lot of days between health care and self-care. They became uh one for me because my health mattered, and like my lungs, I have a lung disease and I'm way better, but I I had my own hyperbaric that I had. That was another one of my miracle stories that I got. And you know, the doctors try to tell me there's no science, there's no data behind that helped you. Well, I have a lung disease, and I don't even have to be test do my test next year because I'm doing so good. I'm sorry, it helped me. I got in there 90 minutes every day for the first couple of years. Right. I know it saved my lungs. I mean, my breast's everything to me, and I'll help anyone that wants the help if they're not gonna waste my breath.
SPEAKER_02:Right. I love that. I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Want to get better? I have a long list. What are you willing to do? Is my question. When people say, What did you do to get better? What are you willing to do? Because my list is really long, and I would I throw spaghetti at the wall everything. I try everything. I love it.
SPEAKER_02:I love it. Like, oh, I love the fact, I love that comment. Like, you're willing to help out if it's in that if it doesn't wait, you know, waste your breath. You want to use your breath for something that's totally beneficial, that's gonna build. And then, you know, I love the fact that you said that, you know, like, you know, um, your health care and your self-care really aligned. Like, I think that's that's that's so big, that's so huge. I think that sometimes that's a missing component for people, like they're really aligned together. And the fact that you you see it, you know, and um you experience it yourself. And I love the fact that you, you know, it sounded like the doctors, the medical teams are so helpful, but I think they're the the most important ingredient was you to all that, you know, like to you know, for you, you know, you really being obedient to the voice, jumping out and and leading and doing what you do. So yeah, thank you, Holly. Man, that that that is amazing. Like that is an inspiration for me, and it's you know, very empowering. Um, and I always leave these podcasts with just really being revived and kind of renewed in this short little space. So thank you. If people want to reach out to you and have you as a keynote speaker, want to see what you're doing regarding the retreats, or want to uh, you know, uh uh connect you for your services. What um what website or Linktree can they go to? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:If you go to yeah, Linktree and then forward slash Holly Porter. And I know you said you'd put it in there, so that's the easiest link. It'll connect you to my website, um, my Near Death Chef book, uh the podcast. I have a podcast called All Things Retreat. Yeah, yeah. Any of those, um, love to hear from you. My emails on there. I have an open book, so love to hear from you.
SPEAKER_02:I love it. I love it. Thank you, Holly. I appreciate the time that we had today, the tools that you've given in just a short time. I'll make sure all that is in the description for contacting you. Thank you once again. Thank you for taking up space and just being a blessing to us today. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Have a blessed day.
unknown:Thanks.
SPEAKER_02:You too. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Well, thank you.