Insightful conversation about how to stop Performing For Love And Start Loving Yourself

Imagine rebuilding your life from the ground up, starting with the belief that once convinced you that you were unlovable. That’s the turning point Angie Hawkins shares as we unpack how grief, a cross-country move, and a hard look in the mirror led her from people pleasing and perfectionism to a life powered by self-trust and clear boundaries. It’s a candid journey with practical tools you can use today.

We get specific about what kept her stuck and what set her free. Angie explains why general advice and spiritual highs weren’t enough without integration, and how coaching turned ideas into action: setting boundaries at work, tolerating guilt without caving, and regulating her nervous system through real-world stressors. The shift was palpable, negative comments stopped derailing her, and positive feedback became a nice-to-have, not a lifeline. She connects the dots between chronic anxiety, autoimmune flares, and self-abandonment, showing how alignment calmed her mind and body.

We define people pleasing in clear terms and share how to stop performing for approval. You’ll hear daily practices that build your inner glow: one joy action per day, steady nervous system hygiene, boundary reps even when uncomfortable, and simple intuition prompts that grow self-trust. We also tackle social media’s maze of filters and opinions with a grounded approach: discernment over comparison, focus over noise. As Angie puts it, not everyone has to like chocolate ice cream, and not everyone has to like you.

By the end, you’ll have a roadmap for changing beliefs through behavior, attracting healthier relationships and work, and living from your own light, not the algorithm’s. If this resonates, share it with someone who needs a nudge toward boundaries and self-trust, then subscribe and leave a review to help others find the show.

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Angie’s Childhood And Core Belief

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Good day, everyone. This is Nicole Ellis McGregor. I'm the founder of the Overcomers Approach Podcast. This podcast was created to support people overcoming no matter what they're going through in life, any challenges, any obstacles. Everyone has the ability to live to their fullest potential and authentically. I love the fact that I have people on my podcast who speak to those experiences, whether live, professional, or personal, and just to be a support and a guide for the listeners today. I'm so happy that I have Angie Hawkins here today. She's an inner glow coach, speaker, and author of Running in Slippers, a raw and vulnerable memoir about dropping the social mask and social media facets to connect through vulnerably. Angie, she works with women who've done therapy, read books, tried the spiritual path, but still feel that there's something missing through deep inner work and identity transformation. She helps them break the cycle of not feeling enough so that they can experience real love, confidence, and peace without having to change who they are. Angie, I'm so happy to have you here today on the podcast, Inner Glow Coach. I love it. Tell me what brought you on this path of where you currently are and being an author.

Grief, Hawaii Move, And Rock Bottom

Why Coaching Drove Real Change

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Hi Nicole, thank you for having me. Yes, thank you. Well, this hasn't always been my path. I resisted my path for a very long time. My origin story starts in my childhood. I was raised in a home. The best way to describe it is both of my parents were emotionally unavailable. So as an adult, I understand what that means, but as a child, you just don't have those tools or that knowledge to be able to interpret your situation. So the way I interpreted the situation was I developed a belief that I didn't deserve to be loved. And as you're probably aware, your beliefs dictate your behaviors, and then your behaviors bring in your external circumstances. So I struggled for a really long time, but it was all stemming from my beliefs and behaviors because I was a people pleaser. I was always chasing for love and approval and things outside of myself. I was a perfectionist, I had impossibly high standards, and then I would beat myself up when I didn't meet those standards. And for anyone who has lived their life like this, they know it's a very exhausting way to live. So I was really unhappy and unfulfilled, but I didn't know any other way. So the first turning point came in 2017. My boyfriend broke up with me and my dad passed away. So I was in such profound grief. And I had spent my entire life running away from my feelings and trying to stuff away my feelings, but I was in so much grief that it was impossible not to feel my feelings. And I didn't have the tools for emotional regulation. So I just felt like a numb zombie for the rest of the year. So that was enough of a kick in a butt for me to realize that I wanted to live my life a different way and I wanted to be happier. And I was living in Chicago and I decided that I wanted to move to Hawaii, which was well-intentioned in the sense that I was actually proactively doing something to take agency over my life and not just being a victim to my circumstances. But it wasn't well-intentioned and that I was still looking for things outside of myself. So you cannot move away from your problems. So I moved to Hawaii. I still was living the same life, and that actually led to my emotional rock bottom, where I finally had to take an honest look at my life and realize that I realized I was being a victim. And I decided that I wanted to live life a different way. And I invested in myself and I hired a coach and I basically totally turned my life around because I used to, I never would have described it this way, but in hindsight, I can see that I didn't like myself and I wasn't happy and fulfilled. And now I'm just so full of my own self-love, which is I call which is what I call the inner glow. And now I'm happy and fulfilled most of the time.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yes. I love your honesty and your transparency about you know your lived experience with your parents and being emotionally unavailable and how that can impact a child and how that can really lead to adulthood. Becoming a people pleaser is exhausting. Um you're not living your authentic self while you're trying to please everybody and you're not focused on your own development.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

I love the fact that you took agency in relocating because sometimes I think that helps if, like you said, but uh you got there, but you still had the same issues kind of going on, just different place.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

It was simply a change of location, right?

Therapy, Coaching, And Action Steps

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Uh simply a change of location and how you made the investment into yourself with a coach to start making those changes to evolve and grow, to live a more joy-filled life, a purpose-filled life, and to which leaded you up to the work that you do today. Um, I think that people need to, you know, I think people carry a lot of shame if they come from those lived experiences and they may wear masks, you know, and become people pleasers or some other helping mechanism that's not that effective and that's could be harming, um, and they're not living in their authentic joy. So, which ultimately led to your inner glow. I think I love it. I love it. Can you tell me what um because some people um you know they'll see therapists, they'll they'll they'll see coaches, but sometimes even with that, they may not make the change. What what part do you feel like really propelled you into truly investing in yourself and taking action on what the coach was really guiding you with? What was the biggest thing that you felt like you you did as well in that process?

Emotional Regulation And Self-Worth

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Yeah, so just to go back before I hired the coach, because I always call after my emotional rock bottom and hiring my coach, I always call that my healing journey in earnest because before then I had tried traditional therapy, I had read self-help books, and those were all nice. But for example, self-help books, it was a lot of good information, but they're written for the masses. So there's never really good, like it there are action steps, but everyone is so different and their circumstances are so different and nuanced that it's impossible to really integrate general advice into your own life if you don't, if this is like your first experience with it. So those tended to fall short. Also, I had started developing like spiritual practices and things like that, and those feel good in the moment, but they don't really address what's really going on. Like, so for me, after you peel back all the layers of the onions, it was that belief that I didn't deserve to be loved. And same thing, traditional therapy, and I know there are good therapists out there, so I'm not knocking traditional therapy, but I know a lot of other people have the same opinion that I do about it, and that the therapist that I went to, it's like we would talk for an hour once a week, and it like feels good in the moment, but it's the same concept of like once I left, it's like, okay, now what do I do? Yeah, because with a coach, you would have the conversation, and then he would be like, Okay, now you have to like set a boundary or actually do whatever we had talked about in that session. Like, there would be actual items that I had to practice in my day-to-day life. And those behavior changes of practicing those things are the things that eventually changed my beliefs. Because I do think you can change your beliefs with affirmations, but it takes forever, it's inefficient. But if you really get to the root of the issue and start modifying your behaviors, then that is what actually changes your beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

I yes, and I I love that you pointed out like you were on a healing journey provide before you got your coach. I also like the fact that you delineated between therapy and coaches because I always tell people I work in the helping profession, and I will some people are licensed therapists. I'm not, and I have my master's in human services, but I intentionally I thought I wanted to be a therapist until I got to school, and then they were like, all these diagnoses, you know, all these, you know, uh everything just seemed really time constrained. Uh, the insurance company, um, and every everybody's not the same. And and and I'm just so concerned about people being misdiagnosed and things like that. So I just knew that that was for other people, that wasn't for me, not to knock it, but I can't, and I have seen therapists and I have seen coaches at as well in my life, and I would agree, like uh the lived experience, and I'm I'm gonna make sure I'm saying I'm not a licensed doctor, so I'm not giving advice in that way, but I think that we're so complex human beings that different modalities for different people and different approaches is what's gonna work for them. So I'm glad you spoke to that because I I I would agree to you in a sense regarding that. So yeah, yeah.

Defining People Pleasing

SPEAKER_00 9:14

Yeah, and even because I'm a coach and I have had various coaches as well. So I'm a big proponent for coaching, but even to your point, not all coaches are created equal. Like I'm not a coach for everybody, right? So yeah, so yeah, it's it's just so nuanced.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

Yeah, I like that. I like that, and and I like the fact that you said that, but I also feel like investing in, I think people, if you're your own biggest resource and investing in yourself to make those changes is so critical and pivotal, and it could be life-changing as you're very well aware of.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah, yeah. Well, and it's also funny because I remember the first time I hired a coach, which was after my rock bottom, yeah, it the amount of money that I spent kind of hit hard. But the funny thing is, because I was improving myself, I was like getting these raises and promotions at work, so it really paid for itself. Yeah, because everything's related.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Yes, I completely agree with you. How do you feel like um as you as you're going through this and now that you're a coach, how do you feel like um it is important for people to live and speak their truth? Uh, you know, because some people aren't comfortable doing that. Like, how did how are people able to get to the point to be able to do that?

Boundaries That Shift What You Attract

SPEAKER_00 10:37

Well, it all goes back to because everyone has like their limiting beliefs, so I can't identify what that is. But I will say it's important that you figure that out because not only did I develop a lot of mental health issues, like I had chronic anxiety, depression. Um, you know, and that's what like makes your quality of life so poor, is because you cannot feel happy and fulfilled when you're chronically anxious and depressed and all these other things. But not only that, it started affecting my physical health. I have Hashimoto's, which is an autoimmune disorder. I used to get sinus infections a lot. When I cleaned up my mental health, it also cleaned up my physical health like tenfold.

Self-Abandonment And Alignment

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Awesome. So I see the connection with mental health and physical health, and then your quality of life, you know, because it's all really like interconnected. And if you don't address those issues, then it it impacts your life, literally, you know. So I think you know, putting the focus on, you know, how mental health can impact your life is just so important. And I think the more people try to store it down, it's not gonna go anywhere if you don't address it. Yeah. And then it can impact your life, like promotions, career, whatever you want to do, relocating, because you need that to be a sustainable, you know, or you know, I think you know, mental health is a journey, you know, what people, you know, like I know as a as a teenager I experienced anxiety a lot, you know, based on my family dynamics. On occasion, I'll have one, an anxiety attack from out of nowhere. Yep. And yeah, and um, you know, how I deal with that is something that I learned from a coach, you know, and it was very impactful. Um, so it doesn't overtake my day, you know, it's just a moment that is gonna pass. Yeah, but it's um it's so impactful. And um, I like the fact that you addressed it. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah, actually, a lot of my work is emotional regulation. I actually just posted something on Instagram today because I had a day, actually, I'll just tell you what it is. I had a day yesterday, I had a positive comment on social media, I had a negative comment on social media, I had someone compliment me in person, I had someone mistake my age for like 10 years older than I was. And me now, because I regulate my emotions, like, yeah, like in the moment, I kind of felt these hits, but none of that like derailed my day or like really pulled me out of who I was. But I used to live in my life in a way where my self-worth needed the positive external validation. And if I got a hit of negative external validation, it would just totally derail my day. And like to your point, if I would get anxiety about it, it would just feel like all-consuming and then I couldn't handle it. And it like everything would just spiral. Whereas when you're emotional regulated, it's like the things outside of yourself are just blips on a radar. And yeah, you may have a moment here or there where you like have intense anxiety or whatever, but you trust that you can handle it and you know how to regulate yourself back to a normal state.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yes, that is so good. And I like the fact that you gave those real examples because those are real things that happen to people all the time.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Yeah.

Daily Practices For Inner Glow

SPEAKER_02 14:00

And um, in the and like you said, not to give them as much power because we we have the power to to how it's gonna impact us, you know, and how you took control over that and was like, yeah, that maybe back in the day that took my whole out, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

But yeah, and that's that was my thought. I was like, old me, this would have been like such a roller coaster of a day, and I would have had to take a nap or something.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Right, right. So I totally get it, and I totally curlate and I totally understand. And when you talk about people pleasing, some people don't know if they're a people pleaser or not. What are what would you say some examples are of a plea people your pleaser is to where it's it's goes into not uh it goes into a healthy space, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Yeah, I love that you bring this up because I actually just released a people pleasing master class and I struggled with even using the word people pleaser because when I was a textbook people pleaser, I didn't identify with that word. So I'm like, so thank you for giving me the opportunity to define it. A people pleaser is when you are same similar example, you're giving yourself worth to someone outside of you. And if you're not getting it, then you're trying to change your behavior or who you are to, and I hate to use this word, but it's true, manipulate the situation so that you are receiving the positive external validation.

Outcomes: Relationships, Work, Abundance

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Yes, yeah, that is good. Thank you for that explanation because I think it allows people to put it in context. And like some people are uncomfortable with words, and they're like, no, I'm not that. I don't think I'm that they, but they are, and so I like the fact that you gave context to that because then it can allow people to be become more self-aware and kind of focus on work on the things that they need to. Um, I think in terms of in terms of attracting, because ultimately people want to get to a healthier space in their lives, but if you're in an unhealthy space and those things have not been addressed, or you keep those negative patterns going on, you really can't attract the love and success that that you that you desire in life, and then you're kind of performing for people, and that's not being authentic. How do you feel like they can move into that space of really attracting what they desire in their life and not through performance, but just through from who they are? Yeah.

Social Media, Discernment, And Focus

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Yeah. Well, it starts with modifying your behaviors because you're not going to believe it at first. But if you, for example, with people pleasing, what most people pleasers struggle with is setting boundaries because you don't want to tell someone no, or if your manager at work wants you to do something, you don't want to tell them you're overcapacity. But what I learned when I first started setting boundaries is people actually respect you more. And I know that doesn't seem logical in the people pleasers' mind because it's like, I but I want them to like me or I want them to respect me. But trust me, they will respect you more when you start setting boundaries. Because I remember the first place I started setting boundaries was at work, because for me, that just felt low stakes. And I it just became a habit at work. So again, I just started believing like I deserve to protect my time, I deserve to protect my energy. So boundaries just became something I did, and it got to the point where people would actually compliment me, like, oh, I think it's great that you have such good boundaries. And they really they actually started to respect my time. So it changed to your point, like it actually changes what you attract because when you're an overgiver, and I just explained this to someone recently. Like, if there was someone handing out money on the street, I don't consider myself a taker, but if they're handing out money, like I'm gonna take some of the money, right? And it's the same thing when you're an overgiver. Yes, there are people who will maliciously take from you because they're seeking out people pleasers, but then there's also up people who are like, well, if you're overgiving, then I'm just gonna take some of that. So you when you have these boundaries and standards for yourself, you're just like attracting a different caliber of people and experience into your life.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Yeah. And the boundaries is so important. And I like the fact that you brought boundaries up and how it, especially if you're not used to having them, or if you come from a family that boundaries were too strict or they were there weren't, you know, there was no real real solid balance. So then you go into the world and have to function.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Yeah.

A Message To 18-Year-Old Self

SPEAKER_02 18:29

And um, creating those boundaries at first may be discomforting because you know, you're not doing the people-pleasing thing, but like you said, ultimately in the long run, people are gonna respect you and value you more for creating those boundaries, and I would definitely agree with you on that because it's also gonna you're gonna be more stable, more grounded in what you're doing as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Book, Website, And Coaching Invitation

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Well, because that's another thing, because I in my masterclass, I say at first it was say no without guilt, but just to be clear, I even to this day, I have moments where when I set a boundary, I feel guilty. So it's not about not feeling the emotion, it's about feeling safe in your body while you're feeling that emotion. So yeah, and I didn't even know what a boundary was until I was, I think, 35. I read a book about boundaries and I was like, what? You can say no. So you can learn at any age too.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

I love the fact it's never too late, listeners. You could learn at any age, and that gives hope for us all out there.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

I know they have to. What do you say about like self-abandonment um when people are going through this process? Is that a healthy thing? Or um, can you explore more or explain more regarding that?

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Yeah, self-abandonment is never healthy. And in hindsight, that is the reason why I was so chronically anxious all of the time, because I was abandoning myself. And when you're not aligned with who you really are, I mean, it just feels like shit. And but I wasn't taking that as a clue. And then once I stopped, and again, it was like once I stopped abandoning myself through people pleasing, or even being a perfectionist is self-abandoning, because again, you're kind of performing for these external things to prove your worth, or if you're not 100% perfect, you don't feel worthy, and it's just giving to all these things outside of yourself. But when you, you know, shine from the inside and you only care about what you think of you, or if you're living in integrity and what you know, what's going on with you, and if you're the best version of yourself that you can be, and not even caring about anything that's going on with you, like not only does that feel good, but it's like you're just so aligned with who you are and so lit up, and yeah, and you just like start to realize that it's not even worth it to abandon yourself because it just it feels gross and not yeah, it it leads to like physics, like again, I think all my physical health problems were also related to abandoning myself.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

So yes, I I would agree 100%. In terms of like, how did you once you got to the place and where you get your clients to where they're at the place where they're ready, they're really in their full glow. What what practical, like daily tips did you do you incorporate? You don't have to give them all, but like anything that you feel like a couple of things that you feel like was helpful for you on the journey, any daily practice that you had, anything that you felt helped build your self-esteem, help, you know, this new mindset that you had. Was there any daily practice that you felt like was helpful?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Yeah, there's several. One is do at least one thing a day that brings you joy because we all get disconnected from our inner light. And that's my whole coaching philosophy. It's not about fixing yourself or changing who you are, it's coming back home to yourself. And as adults, I think we Get wrapped up in like working, running errands, and just like doing all the have to's. And we get disconnected from doing things that really light us up. So, my personal philosophy that I teach to everything, everyone, is do at least one thing a day that brings you joy because, first of all, you deserve to be happy, and it also conditions yourself that, like, yes, I deserve this and I want to do something that brings me joy every day. Another thing is regulating your nervous system because, yes, like when you're having an anxiety attack or whatever, there are things you can do in the moment. But again, like for instance, yesterday, like when I'm getting these like hits and lows and whatever, like I had to be constantly aware of my nervous system and what was going on. And so just like having a practice of regulating your nervous system, whether it's grounding, meditating, taking a walk, there's so many easy things you can do. And even though we're all different, because I know everyone doesn't like meditating, everyone has at least one thing that they can do to like just keep up the maintenance of regulating their nervous system. Um I'm huge on boundaries, and we already talked about that, so I won't get into that because that is a daily practice. Even for me now, I like I'm a lot better than I used to, but like I still have moments where it's like I want to say yes and I really want to say no. So, like you still have to work on that almost daily. And lastly, as something as a daily practice, I am a huge proponent of tapping into your intuition because that is like the highest form of self-trust. Because I think when you don't trust yourself, you're asking everyone outside of yourself or checking your horoscope or doing all these things outside of yourself, but nobody knows you better than you, and your intuition is within you, so all you have to do is plug into it, and you know, it's just like such an amazing thing that we all have, but not everybody's using it to their full potential.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

I agree 100%. I love the fact that you all those practices are great, and I would definitely agree with all of those. Intuition, like you said, we don't talk about it enough, but I feel like it's so impactful for our lives. I think for myself, I work in a position where it was the first time in my life where I had to be just I had to trust the fact that I was doing something right. And I'm one of those people who always wants confirmation. Is this right? Nobody around to confirm it with me. And so it was it took a while for me to get into my intuitive practices. Like I'm trusting that this is going to turn out well. And if I make a mistake, what's the worst that could happen?

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

And um, but I feel like it took me to another level in professional development the moment I tapped into that. So I would agree 100%.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

No, I agree because I love how because self-trust is so important when you're taking a risk or doing something where you could fail, because it's not not failing, it's if I do fail, I can figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

That's right. Yes, yes, it can be figured out most definitely. Um, I love that. And then I and in terms of like, you know, as as people take this course and they transition, what are some of the positive outcomes that you've seen when people really tap into their inner glow in their lives? What are some of the outcomes that you've actually witnessed and for yourself? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Yeah. I mean, the biggest outcome is first of all, they're happier. And it's like so much, it's just noticeable to me. So, and they can feel it on the inside too. But this is the other really cool thing because a lot of women come to me about relationships. And actually, I do have a few clients now. They came to me about money mindset and abundance. And like, yes, so yes, we will work on those specific things, but when you when you do the inner work, it affects everything you do, so it's like so cool to see like someone who came to me for a relationship, like get a better job that pays more, and it's because they're raising their vibration and becoming a better person and just attracting this different quality of life, it affects everything you do, yes, and that's so important because how you feel about yourself ultimately is gonna impact who you attract.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Oh, for sure. Yeah, and yeah, yeah. And I think you mentioned in the beginning that you were attracting when you were coming from that people-pleasing state, you're gonna attract a different person or a different experience, and you're kind of manifesting that because now you're really taking on the role of what the outcome might potentially be. So I like the fact that you brought that up, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Yeah, I think one of the hardest truths to face when you do identify whatever that core holding belief is, you really have to understand how you've been contributing to the things that you've been experiencing in life.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

I agree. And that and that's a real point of self-awareness. And even for myself, it was hard to acknowledge what part I had played in some of my experiences. And until I got to the point where I can acknowledge that, that's where I really got to grow and evolve and living in a different place of like grace and abundance and just kind of flow. Before that, it just things weren't right at all. So I would agree 100%. Yeah, I know we're wrapping up here. We got a few minutes, and you gave some great tools. How do you feel? Like, I feel like social media is such a mixed bag. It's it's it's social media is responsible for this conversation right now. It could really impact lives in such a positive way. Then there's the part where we don't know if it's real or if some stuff is propaganda. Some people can get caught up in their heads with that. So, how do you feel like as someone is navigating this? I feel like sometimes they may have to navigate how they manage their relationship with social media. What's your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Yeah, no, I agree in that there are a lot of good things about it, but there's also a lot of negative aspects. And you know, it all goes back to self-trust because you have to be able to look at social media with discernment. Yes, and because, like, there's so many filters and edits, there's stories that probably aren't true. Um, yeah, and it's like, and this is why it's so important. And I know it's not always easy because I to me, I get pulled in these different directions of social media, but at the end of the day, just focus on yourself and focus on if you're living a good life, if you're living in integrity, if you're being the best version of yourself as possible, because there's really no, even if it was all real, there's really no need to be comparing yourself to someone else because we're all on different journeys, we all have different purposes, and you know, beauty is in the eye of a beholder. Because even you see in comments, someone thinks someone will post like a thirst trap, and there's a bunch of people who think it's it looks good, and there's a bunch of people who think it looks bad. And the way I describe that concept to my clients is like, I don't like chocolate ice cream. I know a lot of people do, but it's like some people like chocolate ice cream, some people don't. Some people are gonna like you, some people aren't, and to like feed into all these different what everybody wants is exhausting and just not even worth your time and energy. So just like focus on you and you'll attract the people you're meant to attract.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

That I love that. Focus on you, don't get caught up in all the distraction, and you're gonna attract your community, your tribe, the people that are meant you're meant to be aligned with. So I love that. So as we wrap up, Angie, my last question is, and then I'll give you an opportunity to give your website if people want to uh contact you for your services or can't contact you or purchase your book. Um, one of the questions that I have is what would you tell your 18-year-old self? Because you've gotten on this journey, and if you can go back to when you 18, I say 18 because that's kind of we're transitioning into kind of womanhood, but we're still youth. How what would you tell yourself now that you have some more wisdom and some more tools in the inner glow? What would you go back and tell 18-year-old Angie?

SPEAKER_00 30:03

I would tell her that I love her and give her a hug because I feel like because I've have been asked various forms of this question before, and I wouldn't go back. First of all, I wouldn't give an 18-year-old advice because what are you talking about? Also, I wouldn't give like a warning or anything because I think my life unfolded the way it needed to, even though some parts were very unpleasant, but it got me to where I am now. So yeah, I would just tell her I love her and give her a hug.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

I love that. And what people want, I think humans, all humans, they want love and they want a sense of connection.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Some people don't get that. So I think that is really, really important that you said that. And I like the fact that you said with an awareness of 18-year-olds, and I can completely agree with you, they don't want to hear it, they don't think they don't trust anything you say, and they're on a mission to do what they want to do. And so some things you have to bump your head or whatever, there's no warnings because people need that lived experience like you did, just like I did. It makes you into the woman that you are today. So I love the fact that you stated that. If someone wanted to reach out to you for your services, what is your website they can connect with you at?

SPEAKER_00 31:14

My website is runningandslippers.com, which is also the name of my book. So there's also information about the book, it's available on paperback, Kindle, and audiobook. And I am the narrator. I know audiobook listeners enjoy that. But there's also information on my coaching services. My current coaching program is called Shine from the Inside, and it's based on the concept that we were all born with this light inside of us because you see kids, they're like running around and screaming, they do not care. But you know, we grow up and there's society systems and school systems and family systems that tell us what we should or should not be doing. So it starts dimming our light. So, and again, it's not about fixing yourself, it's just about rekindling that light that's already there. And so I do offer a free 60-minute find your glow session because my coaching program, I use what I coined the glow method. And the first step step is G, which stands for go back to your childhood. So we have 60 minutes to you know, unpeel the onion and figure out what your core living belief is. And I can't guarantee a breakthrough, but everyone I've had a call with does have a breakthrough. And at the end, we can talk about solutions for going forward. And again, I'm not for everyone. My coaching program is not for everyone. So if it's not a good fit, I know other coaches, I know therapists, I have other resources. The entire goal of the call is to get you help.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Oh, I love that, Angie. And thank you for your authenticity. Thank you. I love this the shine part, the light that can be dimmed through life and life experiences. And as a child, we have it, but it gets dimmed through these systems that we have to navigate through. And for someone who came along was like, hey, I'm here to help you get that inner glow back. I love that and have a breakthrough. It has been a pleasure. I'll make sure that your website is in the web link. And um, it has been a pleasure connecting with you today. The tools you gave were very impactful, and I appreciate the conversation. Thank you again.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Likewise, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Thank you.