The Cabrera Lab Podcast
Join Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera from Cornell University as they inspire you to approach life's challenges with a fresh perspective. Witness their use of GOAT-level thinking to enhance your problem-solving skills. Discover new possibilities, approaches, and solutions you never knew existed. Elevate your thinking and get better every day with their entertaining guidance.
The Cabrera Lab Podcast
#105: Think It Through: Helping Others See What They’re Missing
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In this Think It Through episode, Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera of Cornell University tackle a deceptively hard question: what do you do when someone is overwhelmed, talking a mile a minute, and stuck inside their own thoughts and emotions?
Rather than offering advice or arguing content, they show how to slow a conversation down and help someone actually see their mental model. Using a realistic leadership example about a frustrated manager whose team isn’t meeting KPIs, they walk step-by-step through how systems thinkers uncover hidden structure using distinctions, part–whole thinking, relationships, perspectives, and zooming.
Along the way, they reveal why frustration is usually aimed at the wrong thing, how leaders mistakenly place themselves outside the system they’re part of, and why reacting emotionally never improves understanding. By externalizing the mental model—onto paper, objects, or a map—the problem shifts from blaming people to understanding the system.
This episode is a practical masterclass in real-time sense-making. If you want to help others think more clearly without controlling, fixing, or lecturing them, this episode shows you exactly how to do it.