Navigating the Spiritual Seas of Tahitian Tattooing with Tihoti Matauteute Faara Barff
Jan 09, 2024
Dion Kaszas and Tihoti Matauteute Faara Barff
Bonus Episode #005 Embark on a journey with me, Dion Kaszas, as we uncover the rich tapestry of indigenous tattooing, a world where every inked line tells a profound story of culture, identity, and time. My guest, Tihoti Matauteute Faara Barff, is not just a master tattoo artist from Tahiti, but also a keeper of ancient traditions and a pioneer in the renaissance of indigenous tattooing practices. Sit back, as he recounts his transformation from a young boy, sketching on the shores of his homeland, to an artist who now etches history and heritage into the skin.
Throughout our discussion, Tihoti offers a rare glimpse into the world of Tahitian tattoo art, revealing how it has evolved from simple aesthetics to embodying the deep spiritual connection with one's lineage. The conversation sails through the shifting significance of these cultural emblems, once used as proud markers of heritage and now reinterpreted in an era where technology has spun tattoos into a global craft, often divorced from their traditional roots. Join us as we navigate the waters of preserving authenticity and heritage in the age of social networks and explore the historical narratives that tattoos have inked across the centuries.
I hope you have enjoyed this episode, and I am excited to travel the world of Indigenous tattooing with you as we visit with friends and colleagues from across the globe doing the work. This bonus interview is from my extensive archive of interviews, conversations and presentations I have recorded over the past 8 years.
Bonus Episode #005 Embark on a journey with me, Dion Kaszas, as we uncover the rich tapestry of indigenous tattooing, a world where every inked line tells a profound story of culture, identity, and time. My guest, Tihoti Matauteute Faara Barff, is not just a master tattoo artist from Tahiti, but also a keeper of ancient traditions and a pioneer in the renaissance of indigenous tattooing practices. Sit back, as he recounts his transformation from a young boy, sketching on the shores of his homeland, to an artist who now etches history and heritage into the skin.
Throughout our discussion, Tihoti offers a rare glimpse into the world of Tahitian tattoo art, revealing how it has evolved from simple aesthetics to embodying the deep spiritual connection with one's lineage. The conversation sails through the shifting significance of these cultural emblems, once used as proud markers of heritage and now reinterpreted in an era where technology has spun tattoos into a global craft, often divorced from their traditional roots. Join us as we navigate the waters of preserving authenticity and heritage in the age of social networks and explore the historical narratives that tattoos have inked across the centuries.
I hope you have enjoyed this episode, and I am excited to travel the world of Indigenous tattooing with you as we visit with friends and colleagues from across the globe doing the work. This bonus interview is from my extensive archive of interviews, conversations and presentations I have recorded over the past 8 years.
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Speaker 1:
What we say, tatao, and also, it interests you, a translative of the Tatao T-A-T-A-U. This is how I translate to syllable Ta in Thai. This is old Thai. Ta means mark of writing. Tatao, t-a-u means the time, so you mark the time.
Speaker 2:
The Transformative Marks Podcast explores how indigenous tattoo artists, cultural tattoo practitioners and ancestral skin markers transform this world for the better, dot by dot, line by line and stitch by stitch. My name is Dion Casas. I'm a Hungarian Métis and Intlacopak professional tattoo artist and ancestral skin marketer. I started the work of reviving my ancestral Intlacopak skin marking practice over a decade ago. I've helped, supported and trained practitioners and tattoo artists here on Turtle Island. In this podcast, I sit down with indigenous tattoo artists, cultural tattoo practitioners and ancestral skin markers from across the globe, bringing you behind the scenes of this powerful, transformative and spiritual work.
Speaker 1:
My name is Ti Hoti Farah Matta-ti-ti-ba. I am from Tahiti, born in Tahiti, grew up in Tahiti. Originally, I'm from Tahi. I was 30 minutes away from Tahiti. My family, my dad, from Tahi, my mom she's from Tahiti, her dad from the Cook Island, and my job is. In addition, we set up a tattoo artist and I've been practicing this from 1983 to today.
Speaker 2:
When did you start tattooing and what got you into it? Why did you start tattooing?
Speaker 1:
I started tattooing in 1983. I was that time 13 years old and at that time in Tahiti we don't have internet. It wasn't like today, 83 today it's not the same. So I was really. I started to draw when I was seven years old. I was so passionate always to create and draw.
Speaker 1:
It was hard for me because I come from a poor, poor family In the 70s. We don't have electricity. We were lucky. We live in a tropical place, my dad is so poor so mostly our food is from the land and so I didn't have education. No one taught me Because we were so poor.
Speaker 1:
Schools were hard for me. We had education in French. Education in French was kind of hard for me Because I speak my language. My first language is Asian. At home we always speak the Asian, so nobody helped me for my homework. So kind of hard for me. But I have education to teach me, like design, because I was so passionate to draw. I just had my pencil and paper and at night time when I drew this is when I was seven years old, eight nine At night time we just had a lamp with the lamp before. That's my light. And then in 1980s this is the time we had our revival the Tatouin in Tahiti. That's big. I was twelve. I saw the first man in Tahiti for the revival. His name was Tebe, a full body, someone artista to him. He went to Samo to get his tattoo. When he came back he was a big symbol for us as a revival and that time I was a little boy. I was like, wow, I want to be like him.
Speaker 1:
I want to be like him. So how I'm a boy, I'm thirteen, so I'm looking in. So I tried to how to get the tattoo, because I don't know how to draw, but it's hard to get close with those people. Good, old, young boy, you know a lot to go with them. I just tried to memorize his design on his body. His tattoo was on traditional, traditional tap tap. Very interesting. I was so impressed At that time. Did you know?
Speaker 1:
In the 1970s and there is a man in our village he did the tattoo too, but now did the traditional one he tattooed the prisoners With a sewing needle, a matches box, no matches. He tied sewing needles and cotton rope and then with a Chinese ink and then just this is 1970. No 1982, in my village. And then look at him, he tattooed the skin Okay, and I see the revival that man has shown tattooed the children. So to get like that, I need to learn this and I can do that. So I went to the prisoners. And what do you want, boy? He had to. Just adult. You know prisoners outside in the village and also in the prisoners. He's a prisoner, he just come out of the prison, so that's what he do in the prison. So now he's out. So he tattooed everyone in the village, and not money, just be food or clothes.
Speaker 1:
So I was 13, I was so passionate, I was next to him. Can you teach me? No, but I tattooed you, 13, okay, this is the black tattoo. You know, you know 13, okay, boy. So I look how I just try. He don't know, I want to learn. And then, okay, I just look how his thighs needles, and then you know me, I look what he how he do it. So each time I had to go home but I want to hold my arm first and my dad, stop me if you keep going, he stop me. Okay, knocking, luckily, yeah, okay, this is 83. But I remember how he I get. So I went home, I do mine, wash my hands. I was so in need of my mom and I had my friends in the village. Did it be same age? 13, 13, 13. So on a road, yeah, and I try my first.
Speaker 1:
I was a fan of the Brasslet, 13 years old, and he is 13 years old. I said, yeah, I get it, just the line For me, first is the line, the line it's a patissita, and after I do his Brasslet, okay, and other fans. So who did? They all did. And then more, more, more. Then that's the start.
Speaker 1:
We have a matchbox like this. A matchbox matches like a whole. Remember there's a Chinese ink. Before we call it rotring, we use for pen, you know ink. That's the ink, and then the cup. That's the foot of my cheese and it's all like this Don't add gloss all the time. And I learned by myself like that, no teachers, already. I learned by my design, the design I saw with the man tattoo, and I draw a little bit but very simple line triangle. You know those lines, simple. But this, more important for me, has to do the line. So I practice in two techniques. There's like this and there's like this too. And then you always in English. How is it in English when you like this, no tattoo. When you put your needles like this, how do you say in English?
Speaker 2:
Like you tap no. Puncture.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, puncture, the two techniques just puncture, like this and fast Another one. You puncture and then like I don't know what's in English, put it inside and then like this, I don't know what you would call it.
Speaker 1:
Okay. So there's another technique. But if you do faster does it end. So I use that technique better to have a straight line, and I learned by myself all that. Online I see the evolution in my works and from that I keep going to today.
Speaker 1:
And then in 1980, 1989, you know that time in Tahiti we only 6, 6, like me, try to revive all by hand In 89, and we have that machine, homemade machine, even the razor with batteries we use that. We have a rotary motor inside. We block the machine, we take the motor and then we have the spoon, the round. We take the spoon and take the metal, like this, and you tap, it's a wood. And then the wood and the needle sewing cold Remember they have workmen before the cold and the battery of workmen. So a little bit faster. Still, the shiny ink. We know gloves. No one educates, but we so passionate, no teacher, no art school, just like that on the road street, one needle, even big tattoo, one needle too. And then 1990, 1992, and become the machine after no, the making shop, and then after today. You see, this is how I start the technical tattoo and poke homemade machine. And then what we had today, the 1990, and today it's not the same, you know how did you begin the journey of reviving your ancestors tattooing practice.
Speaker 1:
Give me an example.
Speaker 2:
How you explained you learned the designs. How did you learn those designs? Like you said, when you were younger, very young. Where did you find the patterns?
Speaker 1:
Okay, your question is complicated. I was a boy. I don't know what does it mean? I don't want to know that time too, I just passionate about the design, technical beauty, aesthetic, not the meaning. I want to understand the meaning Because that time, young, she's not interesting, but art, she's not interested in art. But more I get older, then I'm doing. I need to know what I am doing. What is this?
Speaker 1:
In 2000, I start to think what does it mean? The world I do, it's not easy. It's not easy. So in 2000, from the 1983 to the 2000, I just do creative art. It's not worth the attention at that time. You have to know this.
Speaker 1:
The Pungent tattoo, like in Tahiti when you said it's no Tahitian tattoo, it's marquisis. I explained that. Maybe another question, but I have to answer this question first. So in 2000, because I do a lot of marquisis and you have to know too that time is not the same. What we do before, my generation from the 80s 90s, is not the same like today. Today is totally different Because you got the internet, because Facebook, everybody in the world can connect it. Before, no, we don't have nobody know. But the good thing we have, our world was authentic. No one know what we do because we don't have connection to the world.
Speaker 1:
In 2000, 1998, some photographs. Actually, you know Tishalene. Tishalene, she's the one the first woman research study our tattoos. In 1990s she come to Tahiti and she could see all those tattoos and that she was impressed because she never see that and that time lot of work from that is homemade machine and she shows me who did this, tihoti, who do this? Rownwee, who do this? This is my generation. And she was impressed because it's not stencil, it's by hand, free hand and just with homemade machine and the work with. But it's not the same today. It's more like almost realistic. She before just simple, looks very authentic. This is 1990, 1989.
Speaker 1:
And then in 2000, I think, oh, this is wrong for me because I'm Tahitian, why I'm doing what I'm doing, why I'm doing the Macis's work. I'm not Macis's. It's not easy because, well, to answer this question after I have to take you to the past. When the machinery come in 1797, and the convert we get, convert in 1813. In 1822, that's the first law to us Namotatu Namo, go to the temple, our own temple, namo, our own engine. Lots lot holes because now we become Christian. So what does it mean From 1815, we lose lot, our traditions, our knowledge on that To the revival of the tattoo is 1980s, so 150s.
Speaker 1:
So what does it mean? My great great father, father, father, or my grandfather father, my dad, that my great great father. He born in 1818. 17,. My grandfather, born 1916. My father born in 1943. So that three generations grew up after that.
Speaker 1:
Convert, stop, raise, forever. So our culture. That's why we lose everything. We don't know our art, but the education, stop, stop Before that. If they didn't come, we still have education, we still have the same key going and from then on was born in 1967. The revival of culture, 1970. The revival of tattoo, 1980.
Speaker 1:
But the revival, when you say revival, we don't know. Revival, yes, the practicing, technical, but the meaning, who educate us? So big challenge, we don't know nothing. But I believe we inside the gene our ancestors make us, and sometimes the old days, you know, 100 years ago, 10,000 years ago, you know they don't have a system like us Time. If they carve something they take maybe two days, just they take that time. Artists, I say that when they do tattoo, when they do something, he has his, his invocation to the divinities to help him to carve these. It's a big process when they do everything. Before they carve, they go get their stone, they ask permission to the stone, if I can't carve, you amazing. Lots of ritual too. The ritual they have a ritual Give energy because they're connected, communicate with the divine world, the land, everything in them, different time. So I believe today we still have that sometime we do work, somebody do it's automatically and be an engine.
Speaker 1:
Okay, back to the 2000. So you understand, now we don't know the art, station art was very lost and from that time and you know, station art is very rare, it's very simple and it's not like the same that the monkeys, monkeys is complicated. The monkeys is the lucky that we convert in 1900, because monkeys will far from Tahiti, because the English arrived first in Tahiti and that's the first, last and stay today. The station art stayed very rare. I am Tahitian, this is what I want to be Revival, revival, but it's not easy. Now we're going to back to that 2000. So because I don't have any reference, even that time there's internet, even going to, you know fine, because the missionary raised everything was very sad. So we look lost.
Speaker 1:
So what I'm doing is a big challenge as an artist. This is 2000. I think and I think. So what are we going to do to bring the station art and one night like night? Okay, yes, I think I find the answer.
Speaker 1:
I am Tahiti, so I know all Istanbul. It's just around me In the land. So what I'm doing at the time, I fear, because my eye, okay, we have our own fishing Tahiti. I take only fish, the design as a name. We have all trees, rivers, mountain, they all have a name, have a bird and we get go to have a turtle and and all having it.
Speaker 1:
Luckily, I speak very well, my attention. I grew up. My dad, dad, dad, no, my mom and dad speak almost no French, lucky, so I grew up in my language. So exactly what does it mean? All that, I'm right, all those animals on the land, all animals in the sea, all animals in the bird to a Stars, all that Intention, waves, reef, lagoon, valley, as all name or temple, and from that and the design, each word, okay, my design, that's when I say this is from Tahiti and I create my own style. We from that, so we can see, is no, monkeys is my business, you can see, it's all Square, that show me. So no city key.
Speaker 1:
We say T Only place in all French where you know in the Pacific, t is us other island is it? Taking is the same meaning some ball, but the pronunciation is different. Maybe T, I, I, t, and then from that I creed, wasn't, but took me maybe how many years? This is 2000. Today we almost 2016.
Speaker 1:
Okay, I didn't stop on 2016 years ago. I evolve again to today. So now I like I really, as I Sit down inside now, now exactly, I know very well I Develop, may create more. I know many patients do. They do like that because they're not interesting, because station are so simple. They're more like today, especially today. We have a lot of influence, someone don't, and so mix it up and Don't forget I am from the generation 80s. Today is not the same. There from there's a generation coming after 1990s, or tattoo artists, another generation come after the 2000. Then bring their old style 2010. Another generation tattoo artists in 2015, as another Demo opened the world. The design different, no meaning beautiful and share. Mix it up with other design. People. Island Me I still stay in my station Doesn't answer your question. Amazing, yeah, but take many years. I'm by myself. I still by myself.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:
The good thing, I Keep my difference. I Keep my difference. That's why I always make, keep me sure. I keep my difference. If I do same thing, if it's boring for me and not create, we are not this. If artists doesn't create, just copy, what does he mean? He's a lazy. This is a message for artists copy. There's plenty to this, especially the easy for them to choose computer. Oh, take it, you're not an artist Influenced, yes, but create your own. If you do they, you know artists and you're lazy, it's not the same. You create your own. I know it's not easy work then then can progress if you like, you know create your own. You know progress, you know progress. But it's not easy to find.
Speaker 1:
But because I call so passionate on my culture this is the secret I so passionate to the history of my ancestor and I always believe we bless a station. We live in a paradise with tropical. We have food everywhere. We're bread, food, coconut, no a can, don't need money. This is hundred, 300 years ago. Plenty fish. That's why they have lots of water the rivers, the sea, plenty fish that we bless. So I was passionate about that and I want to represent that in my art but took me now it's many years.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, a long time. Thank you for sharing that you mentioned earlier you know, when you were young, it was that one man who had the suit, the bodysuit, so he would have been your first inspiration for beginning the revival, beginning bringing back your tattooing. Besides that person, is there anyone else who has inspired you or helped you along your journey?
Speaker 1:
Sorry. What does it mean beside? Any more yeah yeah, yes, I was not only me. Yeah, I was maybe three more, maybe not too many, maybe three more. Three, four, only four, five, that's it.
Speaker 2:
Have you had any other teachers along the way or inspiration? Just him. That was the beginning inspiration.
Speaker 1:
As I say, I learned by myself to do everything how I do today. Still, it just influenced me.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
And then I go on.
Speaker 2:
I think so Nice. So you say your tattooing is different than the tattooing that happens in the West today. Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Today or Either.
Speaker 2:
How are you choose to answer that? How is it different today, in the past, to what's happening now in the West?
Speaker 1:
Okay, my ancestor's time is to tell you it's a mark. It's not a tattoo, it's a mark To. We believe it's a mark from our. We have a lot of legend. We believe our tattoo create from the divine world. We have special divinities from the divine world called the pope. They create the tattoo from the divine world and they bring in the human world. They become a tradition for us. This is a thousand, thousand thousand years ago Is a connection to the light and dark skin, clear and ink dark. The moon, sun, shadow, light word. And then this is a legend, myth, and then, after the ancestor take the ideas and then the mark from the divinities and become a tradition. And then the meaning is the special, like tribe island, to make the difference and also your social level If you're priest, if you're a fishing man, if you're king, if you're a warrior, if you're from the village. So as a symbol to telling you who you're, god, that time we don't have writing, it's oral, so it was like kind of language. What we say tattoo, and also it's interesting.
Speaker 1:
I translate you the tattoo T-A-T-A-U. This is how I translate to syllable T-A-T-A-T-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-M-I-R-T-E-Y-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-A-T-E-U mean the time. So you mark the time, so you mark example. Today I'm going to mark you. So we're all going to mark the time today, ten years. If I met you again, hey, how are you? You remember the tattoo? Remember that time? I mark you. It seemed like you took a photo Ten years ago and I see the photo. I mark that time. It's mark that time. That's the meaning of tattoo.
Speaker 1:
Some people think tattoo tattoo, yes, but deep. For us. We always dip the meaning of the word Okay, and then this before the mission we come for our revival, we don't have the same meaning about that. It's not the same. We tried to revive all. It's not the same. Meaning, like before that time in the 1990s, is to carry the heritage proud. It's not the same. Because we lose the education, we lose the meaning, like on the missionary holiday, destroy everything, but it's like to come back who we are. But today is not the same thing because we've got internet, got Facebook and even the world, and today everybody can do too, Even as a guy from Russia or Europe.
Speaker 1:
He do the present tattoo too. What does he mean today? For your question, what does he mean? So a lot of answer asks you what does he mean for the guy if he's French? He do the tattoo, present tattoo. What does he mean for him? What does he mean for each one? It's different meaning. For me, it's not a meaning anymore Because that's not the culture. It's my culture. For my sister, what does he mean today? Because everybody do. What's the meaning? It's not meaning you can compare with that. It's just a design.
Speaker 1:
Art Beautiful is beautiful, but there's no more like before and me. That's why today I make my difference To tell yeah, but me I don't like that. This is like I keep going. But I evolve the design. This is a and sometimes I study. You know, like we have in Taiti. We have an old stone too. There's a lot of carp petroglyph. This is 1,000, 1,000 years ago. My sister marked that when I see something like even happened, like falling star, the carved stone, something happened, the carved stone. This is 1,000 years ago. That's my ideas. But I know to the same thing. I am not this. I know. I respect my sister. I never take the same design and I do today. It's no respect to them. I leave that.
Speaker 1:
I'm not too lazy, I need to create, but take the idea. I can't take it Because they make me, because I'm the descendant, no problem, but I will not take the same thing. How are you going to take this from 1,000 years ago, this design, and put it here in this? What does it mean? It should be stayed there. That's that time. We have different time. There's no meaning in bringing that from the future, as we have different world. It's almost like a space world to the end, because it's like almost is not real, it's almost wow. The image looks really bad, you know. I know. That's why it's no way for me to take this and do it with someone, that, because it's different time. It's not right. I take the idea and I create Me, the descendant adapt me on this world and I still keep my different aim. This is station art. That's the meaning.
Speaker 1:
I compare that in today and it's not finished. See, wait. But what does it mean? Because today there's no education and no respect. If you respect, you know, ok, do this, but this, no, it's not for everyone. Like I have some art today. I don't put that on anyone. I put on someone who loves his culture. He knows what his culture, where he come from. That's what it is, and proud.
Speaker 2:
So why, for you, was it important to mark time, as you had said, in a way that resembles what your ancestors did? Why was it important to do that and not just do any type of tattooing, like you had talked about doing the marcaison originally? So why was it important to move away from that into something that more resembled or was closer to who you are? Why was that important?
Speaker 1:
Easy, easy logic. I am Thai, I should be doing this station To take mine because that's mine. It's very easy. It's from my ancestor and I'm right to do this and so are so passing out, and so it's very easy. You know what I see.
Speaker 1:
For me, the tattoo the meaning simple If I say global tata is a connection or symbol you want to put on your body. It's like you connect it yourself. Okay, I give you example. I say I love the history of my ancestor, all the traditions, so become our identity. He tells you who you are welcome from and you connect it. I believe my symbol, I believe that.
Speaker 1:
So when you have that thinking like that, there's no way you're going to regret your tattoo for life. There's no way you're gonna. There's no way See for life, yes, and you're always happy and proud to carry that for life. But take many years to find where's the connection. You need to use the connection to that symbol they're gonna put on your body, because for us, you know, tattoo on your skin is your spirit too, because it's on you for life. So it's important to carry what, to believe and connect it. I love my culture, I love my ancestor and I connect to them for life, make my identity and know who I am the old nation. I am nation, I'm the descendant. So I keep going down in this crazy.
Speaker 2:
So if you were talking to someone who was of a different culture and wanted to revive their tattooing tradition, what advice could you give them in there?
Speaker 1:
and help them. What advice? What does it mean?
Speaker 2:
Give them an idea that would help them to progress in reviving their tradition.
Speaker 1:
It's so simple, you know, to study the history of his people. He says that it takes time. He needs to go back to the past. Who wrote they? What it from the origin. He needs to go back to understand the origin. It's only don't go to internet copy design, but he needs to know to speak his language, because the language first is important, because everything simple as a meaning, as a language, go back to this origin, learning, origin, all the meaning that, and then put on a paper, first in the skin he creates from that. Like I said, close my eyes. I'm entirely the mountain this. Luckily I know my language, so I just write everything on my land, some of the culture, the origin, your place where you live, what's happened before. All that information Write, write and translate in design. That's the design.
Speaker 1:
So what's he doing? It's his origin now. Then now he can start. It's an easy way. But he need to do the search. But the secret is he has to be passionate. I was passionate, if you know, passionate maybe a little bit, but today kind of hard because it's so much going on, especially today. Oh, is it that? No, that's not yours. Go to yours, off everything, go to yours. You take time when you're passionate. It's another way you have to create your world.
Speaker 2:
This is my last question. Yeah, what? Through the process or how? What did you learn about your culture through reviving your tattoo?
Speaker 1:
My knowledge, lots of old people, so, so passionate, because then they know I wasn't born yet and they learn about their fathers. They're not yet. That those people are when they learn a lot about them. No books is about them and through them, because they grew up inside. That's the culture language, different tradition, fishing, how to plant, how to understand trees. I learned a lot about them from the land. You see, moon, calendar, the stars. I learned. That was then to teach me and luckily again I know to speak my Haitian and I translate all that. Information. On the design Make me my difference too. I went to Internet to find those design is from the information. I write my own language and then I translate the design. And then that's why some people say where do you get those design, see? So I keep saying something.
Speaker 2:
Well, I appreciate you taking the time. I am very humbly and I deeply thank you for sharing your knowledge of me.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I like to share. I like to share. It's cool to share. Yes, that's what you share. I like to share Because normally people share yeah.
Speaker 2:
I like to share.
Speaker 1:
It helps a lot of people to progress.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and that's my goal.
Speaker 1:
You need to all share and to burn. Yeah yeah, it's so much greedy. It doesn't progress like that. Why are you keeping it?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's why I'm doing this, so that we can share with as many people For me, you know.
Speaker 1:
The next is how it's in English. Oh yeah, it's good that you use it for the school. Yeah, because then they don't have any the suffer judge they go over there. No, like this knowledge make them who make them lot of thinking. We need to think or slow down thinking. Yeah, yeah. Postatu is not a joke. This is for life. If you regret, you know good you want to hide because you're not happy for life. But if you're proud and happy for life too.
Speaker 2:
Hey listeners, thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode. I just want you to remember that, no matter who you are, where you're from, what you've been through, what you've done, that you are amazing and beautiful, and I'm excited to see you next week. And the last thing that I will ask you is to do me a solid and share this episode with somebody that you think will enjoy it. Thanks a lot, and see you next week.