15. Sister Reflections: New Year Resolutions & Milestone Birthdays

How did we fare with our New Year resolutions last year, and what are our goals for the Year of the Snake? We reflect on what we achieved (and didn’t) with our resolutions and whether we've set our sights on the year 2025. Reminiscing on our past milestone birthdays, we share our thoughts on the emotional and physical changes of our 30s and 40s. From cultural traditions like Japan's Seijin Shiki (Coming of Age Ceremony) when one turns 20 to our musings on style and aging gracefully, we discuss how we feel as we navigate life's major milestones.

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Transcript

New Year Resolutions and Goals

Speaker 1 0:00

I gotta get you out of my system. I gotta get you off of my mind. But how do I move on when no one compares? They only keep me occupied. I gotta break these chains that bind me. I try to shake them off so desperately but you pull them tighter, string me along. It's sad, but I'm so gone.

Speaker 2 0:30

Happy New Year everyone. It's 2025, the year of snake, according to the Chinese zodiac, For those who are born obviously this year 2025, 2013, 2001, 1989, 1977. I think Sumi's husband was born that year, so he was born the year of snake. Do we know anyone else? Wasn't our grandmother also?

Speaker 3 1:02

I have no idea.

Speaker 2 1:04

Okay, I'm probably wrong. Yeah, I don't know Anyway yay to the year of snake. So before we get into our topic about birthday milestones, I wanted to ask you guys how you think you did on your resolution from last year or your goal of the year.

Speaker 4 1:26

Well, I think mine was controlling my tongue and I already blew up on you, so that's on who? You me, so uh-huh so I but what?

Speaker 3 1:39

but wasn't your resolution like, not used to harsh, like harsh words to your kids?

Speaker 2 1:45

oh, well then I don't think it was kids specifically. That's a little gap in general?

Speaker 4 1:49

maybe in general, or maybe if we're kids, I don't know, but in general I think I've gotten much better for sure. But what else is my resolution? Was that it? That was it? Yeah, that's so bad that I don't remember my resolution. So, yeah, that was my update. That was short.

Speaker 2 2:09

Okay, Anything. What about your goal this year? Do you have one tomorrow?

Speaker 4 2:14

I don't have a resolution. I don't. Honestly, I don't feel like we even thought about it when we got together this recently. You know we didn't discuss it, so it didn't really cross my mind actually. Um, but I am just doing the 21 days of fast with my church where, you know, I'm just giving up certain things you know, like alcohol, right now for 21 days. I just decided to.

Speaker 4 2:38

You can do anything, like anything. You can give up anything, and it usually should be something that is going to better you. You know, yeah, and in the past I've done like social media, but I was like I'm not even into social media at all and I probably should be a little bit, so I know what's going on more, but I was not going to do that this time. Um, I said, well, maybe I could just give up games that I have on my phone as an escape. Sometimes that I do, you know, like my mind to escape. So I deleted that and then just basically waking up in the morning and first thing, reading like Bible plan, like verses and stuff, and then doing prayers, and that's how I start the day for 21 days, and I mean I do that in general anyway, but it's kind of nice to really really do it.

Speaker 2 3:34

So is it just 21 days, or do you reset after 21 days to something new for another 21 days, or is it just-.

Speaker 4 3:41

This challenge with church is just 21 days Okay. But like a lot of people will say like they'll give up sweets if they are like so addicted to eating sweets or give up social media. You know people that are addicted to social media and stuff and then when you crave those sweets or whatever those things that you were kind of used to, that's not doing anything for you.

Speaker 2 4:03

You just turn to prayer, basically but I see, yeah, and how is it working? So far it's working very well.

Speaker 4 4:09

I guess it's only been how many well I didn't start on january 1st, okay, um, our church just started like this past weekend is it for you and your entire family, or is it just you?

Speaker 4 4:21

it's for anybody that wants to participate and you don't need to, like you know, announce yourself. This is I'm doing it, this is what I'm going to fast. You don't need to do any of that, it's just for yourself. So if you choose to, you can. And in the past, what I've done was like I've completely fasted. Food for the first three days, so no food at all, Just like liquids. Food for the first three days, so no food at all, just like liquids. Oh, my goodness, that's so hard, that's very hard. And and then? But then it makes you realize like, wow, there's people in this world that you know don't choose to have this hunger but, they're lacking food.

Speaker 4 4:59

It's just like makes you think a lot like wow, there's people not by choice, you know experience starvation. Yeah, but this time I was like I'm not, I'm not gonna do the three-day complete fast yeah, that sounds like a lot yeah, and I don't want to pass out either because I'm kind of busy.

Speaker 4 5:18

You know, like I don't, I need food, I need fuel. So jesus supposedly fasted 40 days with no food or water, yeah, and he got to the point where he was like so delirious and, you know, was tempted. But he turned to prayer and without water, like oh my gosh, I don't I think people would die. You know, normal human.

Speaker 2 5:41

Yeah, what about you, sumi?

Speaker 3 5:44

My last year's resolution was to read 50 books in a year. How did you do? I didn't achieve that goal, but I think I have a pretty good excuse. What was the excuse? Well, okay, so first off, I started off pretty good. I was reading like five to six books a month, I think.

Speaker 1 6:02

That's pretty good. That's a lot.

Speaker 3 6:05

Yeah, I was at a very good pace. I was like this is going to be really easy. But then I started a new job. I work as a freelancer, so I had already had contracted with two companies. I got a new contract with another company in April and that was pretty demanding. Well, it wasn't really demanding, it was like consuming time consuming, and it was a company in the US, so I would get paid in US dollars.

Speaker 3 6:32

And the rate right now is really good. So US dollars from Japanese yen is really good right now, so that motivated me to work harder. So that's my first excuse, which is not a very good one. But my second excuse is I think it's a pretty good one. It's because I got pregnant, yay.

Speaker 4 6:56

Yay, and the due date is. When's the due date? Oh, june 28th.

Speaker 2 7:03

June 28th, amazing. So you're, how many weeks now?

Speaker 3 7:08

16 weeks, 16 weeks, yeah, 16 weeks, yeah, and I will find out the gender in the next appointment, which is in three weeks.

Speaker 2 7:17

So that's pretty exciting, that is super exciting yeah, so my morning sickness was really bad.

Speaker 3 7:24

Yeah, it wasn't really morning sickness, it was like throughout the day, so that kind of that sounds like an excuse, samia.

Healthy Eating and New Year Goals

Speaker 4 7:31

Yeah, but it's a good excuse. You should have read 50 books. How many did you read?

Speaker 3 7:35

yeah, while she's throwing up, yeah yeah, I counted, so I read 39 books.

Speaker 2 7:40

39, that's pretty good yeah that, that's pretty darn good yeah. So how long do you think you read Like how many months do you think you read 39 books?

Speaker 3 7:52

I think maybe like till July. So January to July, that's pretty good. Yeah, so I was sure I was gonna make it like 50 books was gonna be really easy for me.

Speaker 2 8:03

But yeah, you were very, very confident about doing it I remember. Yeah, what about your goals this year? Do you have one?

Speaker 3 8:11

Well, I didn't really think about it, but well, I guess I should start eating More healthy, healthier than usual Healthier.

Speaker 4 8:21

I think you will like automatically, without putting in too much effort, once you have a baby. I think so, like yeah.

Speaker 2 8:29

I think it's kind of hard also because, you know, during pregnancy you have different cravings, like I craved not that I ate horribly, but there were things that I craved like chocolate cake, oh my God. I also craved Minute Maid, 100% pomegranate, blueberry juice. Those are the two things that I crave during pregnancy. I mean they're not unhealthy, but it was unhealthy. How many times I wanted them.

Speaker 3 8:55

My recent craving was Mountain Dew, but I got over that phase, yeah.

Speaker 2 8:59

So it's kind of difficult to eat healthier, I feel, when your body wants something else, especially when you're pregnant.

Speaker 3 9:06

It's not like I've been eating unhealthy, it's just that I guess I eat too much sweets. Well, not that much, but I think you like eating sweets. Yeah, I enjoy it pretty much, yeah.

Speaker 4 9:17

I like savory so I like chips and stuff more. But yeah, yeah, I like savory, so I like chips and stuff more. But yeah, me too. Yeah, I mean, when you have the craving matt and I emptied the vending machine near you for the mountain dew, did you really empty it? Late night run, yeah, we were like, oh no, it's sold out. Now we emptied it out because simi said that it's not easy to, you know, get mountain dew in the area or something. Yeah, in Japan, oh, in Japan in general. Yeah, yeah, but the vending machine kind of close to her place.

Speaker 3 9:47

Which was a miracle, has.

Speaker 4 9:48

Mountain Dew. So Matt and I were like all right, we'll go, We'll go get it.

Speaker 2 9:51

Now that you say that, I did notice there weren't that many soda, american soda. I guess that was in vending machines, Like Coca-Cola, wasn't even. They usually have Coke. I didn't really see Coca-Cola.

Speaker 3 10:04

Okay, they usually have Coke, but that's about it. I would say or Sprite.

Speaker 2 10:09

I mean, there's always Fanta, but Fanta's not from Japan, but that seems like the most popular.

Speaker 4 10:16

Yeah.

Speaker 3 10:17

The Dr Pepper Mountain Dew is pretty rare Dr Pepper here was also rare.

Speaker 4 10:21

Cody, you liked Dr Pepper, right. Yeah, I used to always hate it.

Speaker 3 10:27

It tastes like I don't know why, me too, I don't know why I got so into it. I know.

Speaker 2 10:32

I haven't had soda in like years. I don't even know when it was last time I had it. That's what I loved, like I love Dr Pepper, but I loved, like I loved, downton.

Speaker 4 10:39

Tuffer, what was your New Year's resolution?

Speaker 2 10:42

So mine was read books also, but 12, like once a month. And guess what I did achieve it.

Speaker 4 10:49

How many did you read?

Speaker 2 10:50

I read 14. But I think, because I was excited, I read 14. I kind of towards the end.

Speaker 3 11:07

Like the last months, I didn't read anything.

Speaker 2 11:08

So once I hit the goal I realized, wait, I read 14, because I made a list of how many I've read. I think that's when I kind of reached the goal and I just didn't read. It wasn't a burnout necessarily, it wasn't very difficult. Once I got used to it I realized that you know, okay, this is a habit that I can keep. I was grateful that you gave me some suggestions. I had a couple of friends who gave me suggestions, so that was really nice. So for this year I would still like to try to continue once a month. I am reading a book right now. So let's see. It's a slow start but we'll see how that goes. And then what I would like to do this year is eat more plant based foods, so like really commit once a week, one meal a week at least. So using no meat, sometimes no dairy. I don't want to say like vegan meal, but vegetarian or vegan, because I know that that's a little bit difficult. So once a week.

Speaker 4 12:02

Is there a reason why you want to do that?

Speaker 2 12:05

I guess it's another way to experiment with food, because I like to cook and also I know it's good for you to eat more beans and legumes and other things which I don't typically eat or cook, like chickpeas and lentils, and you know, those things I don't really eat. So I think if I can find a recipe that I like, I think it will be good.

Speaker 4 12:29

It's also learning new recipes, I guess you should try sometime, maybe next year, trying to cook one ethnic dish. You've never had a month.

Speaker 2 12:41

That's a cool idea, yeah, so last year I also did like a meatless Monday thing. So for dinner I used to make just plant-based or vegetarian meals. It was very inconsistent, like sometimes I remember to do it, sometimes I didn't, so this year I want to make it at least once a week.

Speaker 4 12:59

Yeah, I remember you talking about it.

Speaker 2 13:01

Yeah, and I'm not going to commit to a day because I realized I have to really plan it out.

Speaker 3 13:07

Wait, I have a stupid question. Yeah, do vegetarians eat?

Speaker 2 13:10

fish. No, so they eat dairy. So you know eggs, milk, cheese and all this Vegans don't, so they don't eat any dairy, Anything that comes from animals.

Speaker 2 13:20

Right, so that's more vegan, yeah, and I do have like a few vegan recipe books which I have opened here and there and I have cooked out of them, but I think I want to get into a little bit more this year, like once a week. So that's my goal. And I also want to just one more thing, because I do like to cook. I wanted to make another fermented food. So either kimchi, sauerkraut because I got into making natto, you know. So that's something that I learned and I want I'm continuing. I say kimchi, yeah. So I told Christoph, I said, hey, we live in Germany. So I was thinking sauerkraut and Christoph dislikes sauerkraut. I love sauerkraut, but he's like I don't like it. And I I said, since we live in Germany, I feel like I should know how to make sauerkraut. And he was like, oh, I don't care Like if you make it or not you know, so I think I will try kimchi this year.

Speaker 4 14:13

Yeah, try a neggi kimchi that I've always wanted, yeah that's true.

Speaker 3 14:17

Oh, neggi kimchi, that's true, which I love.

Speaker 4 14:20

I've never had it. And Cody was supposed to make it when she visited, but then we realized you need bulk and bulks of green onion. We don't really have anything like that.

Speaker 3 14:30

Yeah.

Speaker 4 14:36

So I want to maybe start with the easier ones. I've made coconut yogurt multiple times when I was trying to figure out what was wrong with cake? With stomach issue, yeah, but. And even made like what was it? Whipped cream, like thing from coconut, everything like coconut, but like it was so time consuming. I was like no, this is not my thing.

Speaker 3 14:59

Yeah, do you make it from extra coconut or coconut?

Speaker 4 15:04

milk from a coconut juice I did it from a can. Okay, coconut milk, but we do because I'm in florida.

Speaker 2 15:10

I could probably access, but that's even more time consuming no yeah to crack one open even like you need a machete, like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's coconut milk right, and not coconut water. Coconut milk, yeah, I think it was coconut milk.

Speaker 4 15:26

It's been years, I don't remember, but I remember I had to set it away and just let it ferment.

Speaker 2 15:31

I also thought about doing miso, but it takes months and months until you see the results.

Speaker 4 15:38

So maybe I'll do that next year. You do what you want.

Speaker 2 15:43

Yeah, so those are my goals. You have so many goals? Yeah, well, it's not bad. I mean, it's just you know it's a good thing. Yeah, like continue once a month book reading, which wasn't so bad, and then once a week one meal a week at least, like vegetarian or vegan meal and then learn how to make kimchi.

Speaker 3 16:08

That sounds achievable do you remember okasan used to make kimchi. Um no, or make kimchi, you remember?

Speaker 4 16:15

I remember she used to make the what they call like washed out kimchi, like white version you know like, yeah, kind, you know like mom used to make, yeah kind of.

Speaker 3 16:23

Just like pickled. She also used to make shiokara right Oto-san was really into shiokara, yeah, because our grandfather was.

Speaker 4 16:33

Okasan did make it some, but then she was like I don't even like to eat this stuff, so I don't want to make it anymore. And then Oto, my father, started making it.

Speaker 2 16:42

How do you describe that?

Speaker 4 16:48

It's a squid and you use every part of squid pretty much because you squeeze out the organs and stuff.

Speaker 3 16:52

That's what the sauce is made from.

Speaker 4 16:53

Yeah, I remember I used to watch my father make it and the squid is cooked?

Speaker 2 16:58

No, it's raw. Does it get cooked?

Speaker 4 17:01

No, oh, cooked in it Possibly, maybe somehow it's like, maybe like some type of citrus is added from its gut, I don't know. To keep it, I'm sure you have to consume it fairly quickly.

Speaker 2 17:14

Yeah, if it's like homemade, I think his dad used to make it at home a lot.

Speaker 3 17:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2 17:19

So he must have learned it. Yeah, so our brother has turned 30 this past December. That's his milestone birthday. We've gone through 30s already. Well, for Sumi not quite, but, and since Sumi's 40th is coming up this year, in 2025. Are there things looking back or any milestone birthdays that you remember or any thoughts that you had? I?

Aging and Milestones in Life

Speaker 4 17:42

remember I was not looking forward to turning 30 at all because I felt like going from 20s to 30s made it official Like metal age woman, yes, you know like, oh, I'm not cool anymore, right. But then turning from 30 to 40, I was so excited I couldn't wait to turn 40. The reason why is because I wanted to look like a younger. If I told somebody I'm in my 30s and they're like, oh, you look kind of old, right, I wanted to be able to be like I'm in my 40s and people think she looks pretty good for her 40. So I couldn't wait to turn 40. I remember.

Speaker 4 18:18

But also my another thought about 30s for me was like at around age 35 is when I really started to notice a change in my body where gravity started to take place and things were starting to sag, and not that I was trying to lose weight, but if I did gain extra, losing weight was so much harder, to put on muscles was so much harder. Much harder to put on muscles was so much harder. But 35 was that really. You remember this. I remember it specifically because I remember thinking, wow, what a change. So that age was 35 for me was like I had to work harder. What was easy before, I had to work a lot harder to achieve what I wanted.

Speaker 2 18:59

Yeah, do you think that's possible in the 40s?

Speaker 4 19:01

I'm maintaining it, so it hasn't been that hard. You know like I've been consistently working out and trying to eat healthy, so it's not as hard. But I think if I gave up, you know it'll be hard to get back on. Yeah, like a lot harder to get back on.

Speaker 2 19:16

What about you?

Speaker 4 19:16

guys.

Speaker 2 19:17

Well, for me, 30s, I think, when I turned 30, I still remember to this day Lucas took his first step on my 30th birthday and he was. He was 18 months. Right, it was 18 months kind of late, I didn't know that was your 30th birthday, wow. Yeah, it was on my birthday. I was working and no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 19:37

I knew it was your birthday, but I didn't know it was your 30th birthday.

Speaker 2 19:41

Yeah, before that. So I went into work as usual and my desk where I worked it was kind of like an open concept. I faced somebody. There was somebody next to me and I was on the edge and I walked in and I saw this like toilet paper just covered on my desk. It was actually. It started on the ceiling too. It was just completely just covered.

Speaker 4 20:04

Why.

Speaker 2 20:04

And I was it was for my birthday Like somebody pranked, like my desk on my birthday.

Speaker 2 20:11

On your birthday, yeah yeah. So I went in and I was like what the heck? It was on the third floor and I had to walk pretty far. It was at the end of the building. So as I was walking I was thinking what the heck is going on over there, Pretty open, so I could see what was happening. But then as I got closer I'm like wait, that's my desk. Why is my desk covered in toilet paper? And so as I got closer I noticed there was a cake, and then there was just completely covered. There was no message or anything and I was like, oh my gosh, it wasn't like super early in the morning, but it was. It must have been like 830, almost nine, and it was a few of my friends who I worked with who has actually toilet papered the desk. I don't know if they did it the night before or they did it earlier in the morning and they brought a cake. So that was really, really nice.

Speaker 2 20:58

Then that afternoon I got a video from our son's daycare of him.

Speaker 2 21:04

I think I didn't even have an iPhone back then, it wasn't even a smartphone, I feel like it was a flip phone. So the resolution was bad, but I saw five seconds of him like taking steps, and he was 18 months at the time and I started to worry because usually babies start walking around one right, or some kids yeah, some kids walk much earlier. And so I was starting to worry because he showed no interest, Like he didn't even like take steps. He always used his hands to stand up and he would stand, but he just refused to accept. So we were concerned. But I got that short video and I was like, oh my gosh, he's a little bit taking steps. And then next thing I know, I went home and I took him to a grocery store because we had a shop or something and I saw him just take many, many steps and I thought, oh my gosh, where was he hiding all this? So it was so great because obviously it was my birthday and I will forever remember it because it was my 30th.

Speaker 3 22:06

That's nice.

Speaker 2 22:07

Yeah, it was really really nice. And then for my 40th birthday we were in Spain, so that was also really nice. We rented a house outside of Madrid and I was there with a couple of friends from Geneva. It was very low-key, but it had a pool outside and it was summer, because my birthday is in summer, so the weather was beautiful, no complaints.

Speaker 4 22:32

That's nice Sumi. What are your thoughts on turning 40 here soon? Are you excited and wrapping up 30s Well you're surrounded by a lot of old people in your neighborhood, in your community.

Speaker 2 22:51

Much older people, Much older. So you still feel young? I'm sure I don't really. Well, obviously, when you compare yourself with 70-year-olds, 80-year-olds I hope you feel much younger.

Speaker 3 22:59

Yeah, I don't really have any thoughts on turning 40. I've never really had any.

Speaker 2 23:04

Well, it'll be exciting because you'll have a baby, yeah, so that's a good start of your 40s, I would say.

Cultural Traditions and Aging Gracefully

Speaker 3 23:15

What about 30s a baby? Yeah, so that's a good start of your 40s. I would say what about?

Speaker 2 23:18

I don't, I don't really remember what I did when I turned 30 or 20, but I was still on birthdays.

Speaker 4 23:23

Yeah, you don't remember. You don't remember turning 30, like what you thought. I was like, so devastated. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so going to be uncool in my thirties. I know it. I hate it, I hate the thought of it. But forties for me was so exciting, like, yeah, I feel like forties felt better than turning 30. Yeah, I felt like I was so ready to be in my forties because I just want to be the young 40s like a fit 40s person.

Speaker 3 23:54

Actually, I do remember when I turned 20. Well, not the exact moment that I turned 20, but in Japan we have the Seijin Shiki which is like the coming of age ceremony, celebration of adulthood. Yeah, so that I kind of remember.

Speaker 4 24:10

I just heard that 18-year-olds are now considered adults in Japan too, even though it used to be 20.

Speaker 3 24:16

Yeah.

Speaker 4 24:17

Okay.

Speaker 2 24:18

So, but you actually have the formal ceremonial celebration.

Speaker 3 24:24

When you turn 20., 20. And what do you?

Speaker 2 24:26

do, or what did you do?

Speaker 3 24:28

Well, we wore these traditional. It's kind of like a kimono, but it's called hakama and furisode for women, different type of kimono. I guess you could say yeah Well, girls will wear those. Usually you don't have to, but usually you would. And guys will wear suits or hakama and we get our hair done, makeup done.

Speaker 4 24:50

Wait. So what is a hakama? And we get our hair done makeup. So what is the hakama? Again, it's like kimono, but it's not. How is it different?

Speaker 3 24:54

you know, for kimono you just take one cloth and you just wrap it around, basically a hakama, you have a top and a bottom, oh, separate oh it's separate it's separate, yeah oh, now that I think about it.

Speaker 4 25:09

Oh really, so it essentially looks similar to kimono from the outside. Is it less formal than kimono? Maybe?

Speaker 2 25:21

okay, so you wear that and you put makeup on, you get your hair done, and then what do you do? And you go to your um local venue okay, I don't really remember. I was gonna say you were already at the university, so it's not like you were leaving at home so you went back. You went back to our parents home yeah for it.

Speaker 2 25:45

Yeah, okay, is that so typically people celebrate with family I don't know, with your friends the people that you graduated with the high school oh, I see, yeah, if you went to your local high school, but you didn't, right wait, I don't remember she's making stuff up.

Speaker 4 26:06

Oh no, no, yeah, because I took up. This is all untrue.

Speaker 3 26:08

Because I took a picture with Mi-chan, who's?

Speaker 2 26:12

the neighbor.

Speaker 3 26:13

Yeah, from our hometown Okay.

Speaker 2 26:20

Got it. So you went home to celebrate with high school or not high school necessarily, but your neighbors and such that makes sense.

Speaker 3 26:26

I should do a little more research on this, because I don't really remember it's okay, that was long ago.

Speaker 2 26:32

It wasn't like yesterday, almost 20 years ago.

Speaker 4 26:34

Make it right with the next podcast if it was totally off, okay.

Speaker 2 26:40

Well, that's cool. Yeah, because in Japan it used to be that you're officially become an adult at age 20. Like the drinking age is 20. I think smoking also 20.

Speaker 3 26:53

Right, yeah, you have to be 20 to smoke.

Speaker 2 27:03

Yeah, I'm far away. Obviously, I'm going to be the first to reach 50. But I'm definitely not looking forward to be in the 50s. I feel like our body's gonna change a lot in 40s.

Speaker 4 27:10

I'm not looking forward to it, like it's something that we cannot avoid, like we might not be able to read magazines without using the glasses or oh, that happened for matt in his 30s early 30s yeah, but it's coming up and also you know other hormonal changes in the body oh yeah, that's not exciting, but I don't think I mind anymore after 40s I feel like it's whatever yeah, well, let's see how we feel, or once we get there, but I'm definitely not looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 27:45

Did you just say 40? You mean 50?

Speaker 4 27:48

or latter 40s to 50s. I don't think I'll mind it. I have a feeling I'll still be rocking heels and looking fabulous, hopefully. Yeah, I'm thinking of like certain haircut when I'm like much older yeah, like when like really short, like pixie cut even shorter, shorter, but when I'm much, much older and I've always Like pixie cut Shorter probably.

Speaker 3 28:18

Shorter than a pixie cut.

Speaker 4 28:20

Possible shaving needed, kind of Is what I've always, and I want to rock some big earrings, but when I'm older, much older, when I rock all white hair, hopefully, uh-huh, but matt hates short hair, so if he's still around then I may have to reconsider you mean you're talking like much, much later, much, much later.

Speaker 2 28:45

Okay, yeah, I feel like it's much easier if it's shorter too. But I stopped dyeing my hair and I have a lot of gray hair, as you know. But it's so much easier now because I don't have to dye every couple of weeks and I actually started having gray hair in my twenties, like early twenties, yeah. So it's so much easier now I don't have to. But sometimes I wake up and go, oh my gosh, I kind of want to dye my hair, but then when I think about it, should I do it? It's like gosh. It took me like two, three years to actually have it completely like dye free. I'm always like, okay, maybe I shouldn't, but never know, maybe in my 60s, 70s, I decide, heck, I'm so sick of gray hair, I'm gonna dye it.

Speaker 2 29:34

I don't know we'll see if you still have hair, if I still have hair, that's correct. Yeah, and I do have a lot of it, luckily, so hopefully, yes yeah that's another thing,

Speaker 3 29:46

wait, um, I want to make a correction, okay, go ahead um. I said that you only wear it with Hakama. I just remembered. You said that you only wear it once, for your coming of age ceremony, but you also wear it on your graduation. Oh no, on college. That's it Really. Thank you.

Speaker 4 30:08

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Speaker 1 30:16

Until next time and all of these games you play. I should have seen through it right from the start, but I chose to give it all away. Bye.