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EP#24: A Glimpse Inside The Minds of Fitness Experts [PART 2]

• Tyler Studer

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I just got back from Coaching Con 2024 where I was in the room with some of the best fitness/nutrition coaches in the WORLD!

At this conference I pulled aside a few of the best and biggest names I could to bring YOU some amazing value and insight into how they create success for their clients and themselves.

In these mini-interviews I asked each coach 5 questions, three of which related to fitness and nutrition and the other two about life.

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My Amazing Guests:
00:00 - Intro
00:32 - Jared Hamilton
14:54 - Andrew Garritson
27:35 - Jordan Maybach
33:07 - Ryan Johnson
44:15 - Thanks for watching!

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- Jared's podcast: https://www.dietingfromtheinsideout.com
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Jordan Maybach: https://www.instagram.com/maybach.j
Ryan Johnson: https://www.instagram.com/ifwithryan
- Ryan's Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Ryan_Johnson

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Speaker 1

Welcome back to the Taught Not Told podcast . I am so excited to share with you four more amazing mini interviews from CoachingCon 2024 in Orlando , florida . I pulled aside four of the best coaches that I know personally , that I got to ask three health and fitness questions and two life advice related questions that I think you're going to find a ton of value in . So please enjoy and take a moment to subscribe , because there's going to be a lot more videos coming , just like this . I want to introduce to you guys my good friend , jared Hamilton . Honestly , guys , he's one of the coaches I respect the most , not only for his success , but also his communication skills , and I definitely will be posting his podcast in the description . It is like one of my favorite to listen to , but , that being said , I'm really excited to dive into these questions , absolutely so , uh , I have three questions about health and fitness , and then I have three more and more life , or two more , uh , more life and uh , life advice . Realm right , I love this idea .

Speaker 2

You're so smart , dude and life advice . Realm right . I love this idea .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you're so smart dude , I stole this idea from Jared and you guys can hear a different version of it on his podcast .

Speaker 2

But you , to be fair , you saw the idea and ran with it . So that's the thing , is you're the smart one . It's like , oh , that works really well , I'm going to do the same thing . So you're the smart one .

Speaker 3

I'm definitely going to try to put my own unique spin on it , but uh , you already are right now .

Speaker 1

Thank you , bro , Appreciate that . So my first question what is the biggest misconception about fitness or nutrition that you'd like to either debunk or kind of prove otherwise ?

Speaker 2

The first . There's so many , but the first that came to my head is that it's supposed to be slow .

Speaker 1

Oh , I like that .

Speaker 2

Um . Can you elaborate ?

Speaker 1

a little bit .

Speaker 2

So I'm , I'm big on like whatever first comes to your head , right , um , from , in most cases , um , but uh , that's the thing is , most bad decisions and weight loss are made because of a misunderstanding of speed . Uh , one of the analogies I use is I'm like with pregnancy , everyone knows like . With pregnancy , nine months is around the magic number , a little more , a little less , but like nine months , is it ? Um ? But if you look at , if you look at the person , that's , let's say , the gestation period of pregnancy , and you have a mom who's , let's say , three months pregnant , she may not be showing very much , but imagine , if she goes , I'm not showing something .

Speaker 2

It's like , no , just that little fuckers come out in like nine months , like they chest . That little fucker's coming out in like nine months , like they're 100 . But but what if , uh , what if a mom was like um , I'll do whatever it takes to get it out in three months ? Or or if a doctor said I have a cool shot , or I have a pill , or I have a powder , I have a potion that I can make the baby come out in three months and it'll be fine ? Um , will it though ? Like you know , like . But why , though , because everyone knows , nine months is the magic number it , it's not supposed to take long .

Speaker 2

So I always say weight loss or building muscle or whatever it's just like . It's just like pregnancy , it's supposed to take . Nothing cool happens till about nine or so months . Yeah , no , of course you can see progress before then . But if your mindset going into it is , no , I'm not going to have what I want for like at least nine months . I love that . That's great , cause it was because the that's great , because the issue is oh , I haven't seen drastic progress . Great , you're not supposed to 100% . It's supposed to be slow and don't speed up something that is meant to be slow , 100% .

Speaker 1

I think my favorite thing I've heard on that topic exactly is like plan for it to be a year and watch it happen in six months .

Speaker 2

We actually a question on our intake form for new clients coming on board . Is that would you be cool taking 12 plus months to get to where you want to be ? If they say no , I won't even entertain coaching them .

Speaker 1

That's phenomenal . I'm going to take that as for me as well .

Speaker 2

Now , granted , we have options that aren't 12 months , but if you're not prepared , then you're not our people .

Speaker 1

A hundred percent . That's amazing , man . Thank you for sharing so I think this is a really interesting one . You know what's been the biggest challenge you faced on your own health and fitness journey and how did you overcome that .

Speaker 2

My own biggest that's such a good question my own biggest struggle and how I overcame that ?

Speaker 2

Because this is an interesting thing is there's levels to this , like there's this For sure . Now I would say what comes to mind first is when I was deep in the trenches , not knowing what I was doing , because I was the guy . I mean , it's I was , it's the same . It's . The reason my content resonates with so many people is because I'm basically talking to the version I was . So for me , my biggest misconception was I thought I had to to . Uh , I , I believed all the bullshit . I believed like I , I went , started going into a big meathead gym with a bunch of dumbasses . I didn't know what they're doing , but they were all taking steroids , so they obviously knew what they were talking about . So I would talk to guys . They're like no , the only way you can build muscles eat a dozen eggs a day . Yeah , I guess , I guess you gotta eat a dozen eggs a day , or like expensive or like I was convinced like fruit , eating fruit while driving a car somehow stored fat , because crazy shit , right .

Speaker 2

But I didn't know any better . I was uneducated . I did for sure , no judgment , no shame . But like on paper , I had the wrong information for sure . So for me it was getting the right information , understanding , like , the truth about calories and how they work in calorie deficits , like when I found out you can eat whatever you want in calorie deficit and nothing inherently stores fat . I was like it's like I got a lottery ticket , bro . I'm like I can't , I don't have to , like suppress my cravings and like then binge on the weekends , like , but I call it a cheat day , and I was told that would your metabolism .

Speaker 2

So I was unknowingly validating binge eating and having a poor relationship with food Wow , right . So for me it was getting the right information on how to lose weight sustainably . That goes against the grain of what diet culture teaches . And that's how I overcame it . I started studying coaches , unfollowing you know the , the , the Fitspo , you know Joey's and Jane's and things like that and started leaning into the right information and then applying it and then watching the results speak for themselves . And then my life was never the same .

Speaker 1

That's amazing . I love that . I love that answer . So my third and final question , for health and fitness related , is you know what would be the number one piece of advice you'd give to someone just starting their weight loss journey ?

Speaker 2

Be okay . Be okay that it's taken three years to get to where you want to be . Like fuck the 12-month thing . Like literally be okay , taking literally like the next three to five years and it'll be fine . Like it literally will be so much better . The people I've worked with a lot of people , probably thousands at this point been coaching for the last 12 ish , 13 years professionally okay . Our friends with the best coaches in the world and the as far as from a client and result side of things . The people who try to to lose weight the fastest , struggle the longest . And the people who quite literally release the attachment to the timeline in our case , or who literally say to themselves we see , with clients , they go , I don't care how long this takes , it can take as long as at once I'm going to do my end of the bargain and the results will show when they're ready . Yeah , all of a sudden that person had the craziest three to six months of their life , right , like that's that's it .

Speaker 1

The ones who go fast end up going nowhere .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the one who want to lose weight the fastest , struggle the longest .

Speaker 1

Absolutely man . And then , um , wow , that was . Those were amazing answers , by the way . So , um , now switching gears a little bit , going into the realm of your life , and so , uh , I really like this question when you asked me and I wanted to ask you the same question . So I wanted to know what's the best piece of life advice you've ever received ?

Speaker 2

So I actually didn't receive this from anyone . I heard it on a piece of content from a couple people that I look up to , so I took it as if it was given to me . It is what if it works out better than you ever could have imagined ? So , naturally , growing up very anxious person , always worried , always doubtful , always struggled with trusting myself , trusting outcomes we're going to work out , always see , like well , what could go wrong so I could prepare Right . But when I heard what if it could work out better than you ever could have imagined , I went wow .

Speaker 2

Because the cool thing is the way the brain works . If we naturally will , what if ourselves into a hole ? Because the brain doesn't like to be hurt ? It's about self-preservation . But every the the universe operates in polarities light , dark inside the room , outside the room , up down , like there's always a polarity . So if we can entertain , what if it doesn't work , we have to to be fair , entertain what if it works out better than we ever could have imagined ? Because now your brain looks at that possibility and goes , you know , fair , like what if ? And then I have cases in my life where it did happen better than I ever imagined and like these things happen out in left field that they should not have happened , but it's like that was supposed to have happened . So that's it . When I get into a state where I'm cause we're all human , myself included like struggle with worry , doubt and anxiety is go well , what if it could ? What if it works out better than I could imagine ?

Speaker 3

So that is the exact reason I want to come on here because this man communicates so freaking well .

Speaker 2

A lot of therapy , my man . I really hope you guys take a moment to sit with that answer .

Speaker 1

That was amazing man . So I think my last one I want to leave here with is what fuels you , what drives you forward , what makes you want to keep going on this journey of life that you are on ?

Speaker 2

It's interesting . Part of me has no idea . Literally part of me goes I don't know , has no idea . They're literally part of me goes I don't know . Um , I've lived . I was taught early on in my entrepreneurial journey , early 20s , as , uh , my mentor and like the whole thing was grow or die . Yeah , so , like if I , like we were doing one or the other right , we're either growing or dying . It's my entire sleeve is about um , but part of me also lives in the state of like , like , like , what's my potential ? You know , um , it's kind of airy fairy as that sounds , um , but I , I would just hate to get to the end of my life and it's like yo , you could have done that Like that's who that was the people you could help , that's the impact you could have created , that's the experiences you could have had .

Speaker 2

That's the family you , of my own self , we have to be careful of that . So that's a dichotomy . I'm still . I don't think we get to a place where we've mastered that . It's on a sliding scale . One of the weird things I do and I don't talk about this very often , but I feel like it's relevant is I actually . Your audience is either going to go wow , or they're going to go you're a you're fucking weird .

Speaker 1

Um , I take advice from my 80 year old self . Solomon , solomon , what are you talking about ? Uh , like in the Bible ? No , uh , no , uh .

Speaker 1

Alex Ramos , he talks about this and he calls him Solomon or I forget why , but he talks about like he creates a Google doc and he has a conversation with himself as like Solomon . He calls Solomon . His 80 year old self talks to him on a Google doc every day and I learned that from the , from his podcast , from , uh , Alex , from Ozzy's podcast , but , uh , I've actually thought about doing that myself . So , honestly , I don't , I don't think it's weird . They all might be like what the hell is okay , but can you like what the hell that's okay ?

Speaker 2

that's okay , but can you , can you kind of explain a little bit like how and why you do that ? So , um , I'm pretty sure I I know I haven't like heard his talk on it , but I I've heard a little bits of stuff . I take a little bit different approach , like um , because I love these deep questions , like like good , deep conversations , like one of my favorite things . And , um , so when I back in the day , when I was reading a big , a big napoleon hill , okay , and Napoleon Hill , uh , I've read a lot of his work and one of the things that he did was he talked about like he's Napoleon Hill , interviewed 500 of the world's most successful people , wrote the book thing grow rich , right ? Yeah , well , in his next book after he died , that got published . They waited till he died to publish it . It's called Outwitting the Devil , where it's basically not so great interviews and what he learned from that . It's fucking intense . But one of the things Napoleon Hill did was he basically went into the boardroom of his mind and had interviews to seek counsel from these amazing humans .

Speaker 2

What would Abe Lincoln say about this ? What would Thomas Edison say about this ? What would Henry Ford say about this ? Modern day would be like . What would Steve Jobs say about this ? What advice would Tony robbins give me ?

Speaker 2

Like , whatever it may be , yeah , um , but the question is I think I may have heard this from alex alex's who , like your 80 year old old self , 90 year old self , truly has your best interest at heart . Um , there's a level of understanding about you no one else can have . Like , yeah , like I could , I would love to have ed my letter . Tony robbins , tell me , like , strategize with me . There's still a level that they can't understand about me . But no one's going to have the self-awareness or understanding at the right levels other than you . That's why self-awareness is so key . So who would have all that is my 80 or 90 or 100 year old self .

Speaker 2

So I will literally get . This is so weird . I will literally get into like a meditative state , especially when I'm struggling with something , and I like I was I did this somewhat recently , because it's not an all the time thing I was literally at my like on our deck on my fire pit and I was literally like meditating , like eyes closed , whatever , and I literally visualized myself across the fire pit , from me , this wrinkly 80 year old motherfucker , and I was wrinkly 80 year old motherfucker and I was just quiet . I was just like what would it ? Because obviously he knows what I'd be struggling with , or like I would be like in my mind , like having a conversation , um , because it's kind of it's almost like reverse inner child work , like you know , like it's proven in psychology . We teach this with our clients . I do it , um , you can go back and have a conversation with your inner child and actually heals and all these things . Why can't I do that , that the other way Again , that law of polarity .

Speaker 2

So if I can go back in time and have a conversation with my 13 year old self in my head and it's proven to heal . Why can't I go to the 80 year old self and seek counsel ? Whether this is , some may believe , like there's that version of myself that lives in a universe somewhere that I'm tapping into . I don't . I don't know . Or if it's this sense of knowing deep down Because we all use that term it's like , oh , I'm worried , but I know deep down it's going to be okay . Well , we can access that deep down . This is something I learned from Kyle Cease . There's a level of a deep down wisdom we all have , and so for me it is the 80-year-old self , the 100-year-old self . So for me it's the state that I get into and I feel like I can tap into it .

Speaker 2

It's fucking weird , but I'm telling you I'll have notes . It will literally be as if the words on those patients , they were not mine . Wow , I literally have the note . Actually , I have a it's called a remarkable , it's like a Kindle notebook , right a like a it's called a remarkable , it's like a kindle notebook , right and I have like all of it , and so this way , when I'm struggling , I go back to it in whatever 80 year old jerry , it's literally like dude , it's so trippy , like I got into that state and I go okay , wrote that down . I go back , you have like two pages of notes and I'm like those are not my words . Yeah , I don't know what we call god , the universe , somewhere , my 80 year old self , I don't know , but it's what I needed to hear in that moment .

Speaker 1

So that was again again , I'm telling you guys , make sure you listen to his podcast . And uh , jared , I would love to ask you if , in the near future , there's two topics that I know that you are , uh , someone I respect the most when they're talking about these two things , which is the inner work that you just mentioned , as well as self-sabotage , and I think those are two things that I would love to go deep , yeah , with you , uh , on a podcast in the near future .

Speaker 3

So okay , just tell me what .

Speaker 4

Absolutely . Let's do it , bro . I appreciate you , jared .

Speaker 1

Thank you again for coming on love you , man , absolutely this is andrew garretson , garretson , garretson . This is andrew garretson . Uh , gerritsen Gerritsen , gerritsen , gerritsen .

Speaker 3

This is Andrew Gerritsen . That's kind of racist , but no , I love it . Yeah , Andrew Gerritsen .

Speaker 1

So my man here is a coach that you should definitely know , you should definitely follow , probably one of the most brilliant minds I've ever spoken to and had the opportunity to have a conversation with . And so , my man , questions for you . Okay , let's do it . Three of them are health and fitness related , okay , uh , which I think you're a perfect fit to answer , uh . And then the ones I think you're a little less fit to answer are the life advice ones but I'm going to ask you anyways , all right , so that being said , man , you know my question .

Speaker 1

My first question is what is the biggest misconception about fitness and nutrition that you'd like to debunk ?

Speaker 3

biggest misconception about fitness nutrition that you'd like to debunk , the biggest misconception around health and fitness ? Yeah , you know it's . It's funny because a lot of things jump in my head and I think that's really a great symptom of what we're seeing in the industry right now , which is people are really trying to stand out fitness influencers , people that may have experienced themselves with their own health and fitness journey and people that ultimately have a lot of anecdotal understanding of what works for them . But I think a lot of people really forget that what works for them may not work for everyone else , and I think that , more than anything , the most important thing is to keep it as simple as you can , maintain the ability to execute , because if you can't do the plan , regardless of how great of a scientifically based plan it is or how much it worked for someone else , consistency and execution is the number one definitive factor of what allows people to really be successful with pursuing their goals . That's a phenomenal answer .

Speaker 1

Thank you bro . So my next question would be is you know , as you know , as coaches most of us have , been on our own journeys and we've all faced some sort of challenge . So what has been the biggest challenge you faced on your own health and fitness journey and how did you overcome ?

Speaker 3

that you know it's . That's a funny one , I think . So I assume most of these listeners probably aren't going to know who I am , and so just a little bit of backstory . I was born in Korea , moved to Georgia and the US when I was probably about eight years old , and so fitting in was always a thing to obviously be the foreign kid in the room and being a little bit different , being in the South Right , and I think that I wouldn't say racism , but there are definitely some diversity related tendencies that people have , definitely some diversity related tendencies that people have .

Speaker 3

You kind of recall what we're talking about in the beginning .

Speaker 3

It's funny that it's kind of coming full circle now , all joking aside , but you know , I think one of the biggest challenges that I had to overcome was feeling like I was good enough to want to be included , and what I mean by that is originally because I was different .

Speaker 3

I thought that I wanted to buck the system and not have to try to belong , and I thought if I was better than everyone else , everyone would want to try to belong with me , and it really created this paradigm that evolved as I've matured and evolved and I often find that I have a lot of elitist tendencies that tend to alienate people as I've grown , and that really makes it a strain on developing meaningful relationships . So , while being really good at what I do in the education space with my special operations background , there's a lot of interpersonal relationships that I've sacrificed because I've tried to be better than so that I wouldn't have to belong , and so I think the thing that I really learned most , as it relates to my own personal journey , comes in the form of you don't have to know everything , and the more you know , you actually lose a lot of your humanity and you lose the ability to relate to other people . Because it becomes that information becomes a part of how you operate in your day-to-day , which you start to resent people .

Speaker 1

That don't understand that and aren't willing to operate at the same level . Wow .

Speaker 3

That was a deep man . Thank you for sharing that . I really appreciate that .

Speaker 1

So I know , like I mentioned earlier , it's like you . Uh , you have a brilliant mind and I know you've worked with a lot of people coaches and clients and so I want to know what would be the number one piece of advice you'd give to someone getting started on their weight loss journey the number one advice that I would give to someone starting their weight loss journey would be you know , it's less tactical as I get older in it , and a lot of this stuff is definitely grounded in community .

Speaker 3

You're only a plant , can only grow , even in the best sunlight , and it has the most water and the most nutrients , to the degree that its soil allows . And what I mean by that is your environment will be the biggest determining factor for your sustainment of a new behavior . For instance , if you take into account , let's say , that you know there's a wife and she doesn't feel great about how she looks , her husband may not have any awareness around that and she may tell him hey , babe , I'm trying to lose some weight , you know I'm trying to eat healthier . And let's say that in a rare instance the guy actually goes grocery shopping .

Speaker 3

I shouldn't laugh at that , maybe in the rare instance the guy goes grocery shopping , you know um , and he's buying junk food and he's doing all these things that are adding these temptations that she may fall prey to . Uh , because of a lot of grooved in behaviors . And so the best way to change behaviors that have been set in stone for a very long time to change the environment upon which a lot of those things are enacted , which is why joining a gym and finding people that you can hold yourself accountable with , not for , because we find that in psychology research , people will do a lot of things for other people that they won't do for themselves . And so , when we think about putting skin in the game , it actually looks more like having a selfless attachment to someone else and like , hey , I'm going to come to the gym because I know that if you don't come , I won't come . And so cultivating that environment is one of the biggest , strongest things that people can do when they're first starting out , even more so than knowing what to do , because in community you learn faster , you share more , you're going to celebrate each other's wins , you're going to feel better .

Speaker 3

You're going to celebrate each other's wins , you're going to feel better , you're going to feel seen , which is actually a huge missing in these days , and that's why social media is so prevalent , that's why people are on there and that's why , when you look at what people are producing , a lot of people actually really struggle to be seen and feeling vulnerable , and so , having people around you that , hey , I get what you're going through . We're going through the same thing that shared suffering . That's something that I took from the military , which is why , when you have a lot of people that aren't used to thinking in that way and you put them into a shared living space for three months , um , you all develop a lot of same values , the same behaviorisms and a lot of same you know ways of thinking , and I think that that's probably the biggest shaping factor now if you go into an environment where no one knows what the fuck they're doing that's .

Speaker 3

that's obviously gonna be a problem , so there should be some kind of learning in there .

Speaker 3

But I think that the tactical implementation that might be finding a small group that you can train with , that's maybe led by a personal trainer or an expert in that , that can really shape and make sure that you do it well , because mistakes are costly . You might find that if you bend over and you do a deadlifting correctly , you might find that if you bend over and you do a deadlifting correctly , your back goes out . Now you think bending over is a dangerous thing , when in reality it might've been that you tried it but you didn't do it well . And so the supervision element inside of a community setting would be the second thing , and I would say go find an expert that you trust , that you like , um , and that understands your certain circumstances and situations , so that way you can know that your community is going to be supported by someone that's knows and is going to reduce your cost of error .

Speaker 1

Absolutely . I think my the two biggest things right there that really hit home with me is that community and environment , and I think um those two alone . If you can find the right community and create and and build the right environment , man , you're going to be unstoppable 100% .

Speaker 3

Think about football teams . It's not just a running back right . That would be crazy .

Speaker 1

I don't care how good your quarterback is , but if your whole team doesn't work together in unison , we've probably seen some of the greatest teams not be one player . It's the entire unit . It's the family that produces the best outcomes outcomes in the super bowls and the rings and all the praise . So I love that . That was fucking beautiful man . So we're gonna switch gears a little bit . Okay , we're gonna talk a little bit about life advice and I want to know what is the best life advice you've ever been given , or ?

Speaker 3

that you've received . You know it's funny , I um there's a guy when you ask me that I don't know if this is the best advice that's ever been given , but it's the first one jumps to mind . So , just like thinking through it , yeah , I love that . Um , I was sitting in a sauna and it was a co-ed sauna , so it was a family , it was a as a husband and wife , um , and it was while I was working at a in a , a big sitting there .

Speaker 3

Um , I walk in and the guy knew me . He knew me as one of the trainers and he's trying to make small talk . He makes a joke , right , and as I see that I naturally have a very strong personality , uh , and I kind of three up him and I'm like , oh okay , you know just the tip , or I kind of say something like that and his wife kind of titters and like he's like maybe you should come in a little bit softer . And so one of the reasons why that sticks out to me isn't because I could have made that so hard joke . Like , obviously that's the easy thing on the table , but when I think about coming in softer and taking the time to get to know the people in your environment .

Speaker 3

I think it it really allows you the opportunity to again . Mistakes are costly and so , until you can calibrate across the room and read the room and know who you're sitting across from , get a , get a shared understanding , which comes through small talk , which comes through finding commonalities and looking and exploring some of those things before you know , maybe opening your mouth and sharing a polarizing opinion or potentially saying something might be very off putting . That's one of the things that I took , and this was in like 2013 , 2014 . Like that's kind of stuck with me 10 years later . You know , as I'm in my 30s now , of just think twice before you speak when the stakes are higher and you know when it matters .

Speaker 1

Amazing man . Thank you for sharing that story . So my last question is you know what ultimately fuels and drives you to continue moving forward in this game we call life ?

Speaker 3

Being elite . You know , I wasn't meant to be average , and I think that part of that could be some childhood trauma , right , and I think that people's anxieties will do more to shape their personalities than anything else . What you fear most is the thing you will do the most to try to overcome , until you become self-aware . And so , when I think about the things that I fear most is , um , you know , the the idea that my legacy is meaningless , that the things I leave behind , whether it's my family , whether it's the curriculums that I get to , that I get to contribute to , that I get to cultivate in the relationships . I think a lot of that is what keeps me going forward . And how do I leave everyone a little bit better than how I came across them , whether it's they feel more connected , they feel more educated , they have a better tactical implementation , and so , if that's the big picture , the way that I , that I keep myself focused on that day to day , is , I actually keep a little you don't have my permanent marker over there , but I have a little water bottle that I put tally marks on , and so every time I share something , it's customary for me to ask um , if I'm thinking about it to say what did you take away from that ? And if they share one , two , three , 50 things , then I get to put those as tally marks on my bottle .

Speaker 3

And so every year I have a goal of having a hundred thousand uh , what I call light bulb moments , or basically epiphanies in people .

Speaker 3

That uh is a very clear transactional way for me to do this thing . That people like , wow , you're so , you know , you're so giving , you're so sharing with your information . Like it's kind of selfish in a lot of ways , and I think that it's okay to be selfish as long as it serves a common good . And you want to think about how can you be constructively selfish to forward the conversation for a community to , to really champion an industry or to challenge the status quo in a way that's not just self serving , but also how can we be community serving in that way ? But if you don't take care of yourself and you don't make it something that's very personal to you , aka selfish , you're going to find that it's really challenging to stay focused and that's where people tend to get blown off course very frequently , because it's not something that's really tied to their depth of core and a scoreboard , so to speak . So my scoreboard and my fear and anxieties are probably the things that keep me going . If I put a , put a bow on all of it , wow .

Speaker 1

Andrew , that was phenomenal man .

Speaker 3

Thank you so much . Yeah , of course , absolutely Thanks for having me .

Speaker 1

Up next we have my friend Jordan , who I just met yesterday and , funny enough , she just so happens to work at the same gym in a different city , in Long Beach , and it just so happens that all the way across the entire nation we came in contact and ultimately , I saw that she was a great coach and I wanted to ask her these questions . So , that being said , I want to know what is the biggest misconception about fitness or nutrition that you would like to debunk or talk a little bit about .

Speaker 5

I think , overall , what I see within my clients is just not eating enough .

Speaker 1

Especially in female clients .

Speaker 5

Yes , you know they'll come to me and say that they're eating great . It's always what they like to say . I eat really good , you know . Super clean , super clean . Yeah , I have like a salad and , like you know , and super clean , super clean . Yeah , I have like a salad and , like you know , maybe a smoothie here and there , um , and that's it , and overall they're eating like maybe one actual meal per day .

Speaker 1

A hundred percent . I agree with that . I see that way too often , so what should they actually do instead ?

Speaker 5

Uh , so I like to do with my clients is start with macro counting . Okay , um , if that is a position that they're ready to be in , depending on mental health . That's something I like to check in with first . Numbers can be super overwhelming 100% . But I think starting with your macros is a great place because it gives you so much freedom with your food . You don't feel stuck within a meal plan , or like you have to eat chicken and rice , which is what I think ?

Speaker 1

Same shit every day .

Speaker 5

Yeah , I think that's what they think I'm going to have them do .

Speaker 1

Right , so , um , I start with macro . I love that . I love that . Thank you for sharing . So my next question would be is you know , this one's a little bit deeper . So what has been the biggest challenge that you faced on your own personal health and fitness journey , and how were you able to overcome that ?

Speaker 5

Um so , reason that I became a trainer was to empower other women , and I think , even through this event , you know , uh , teaching self-love and learning how to hype yourself up to get you from A to B . So that is what I like to push into my clients and something that I've had to overcome , where I never felt like I was enough . Whether it was in the gym or outside the gym , I never felt like I looked good enough . You know , body dysmorphia is real .

Speaker 1

I still have that yeah it's tough , it's tough .

Speaker 5

So that is something that was my biggest obstacle , so to speak .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and you overcame that . I believe we talked about this a little bit , and do you feel like getting strong , becoming healthy , was part of that evolution , of overcoming that challenge that you face ?

Speaker 5

Yeah , I think , maturing in the gym for one , and then who you surround with too . You know like the trainers that I work with are incredible , and you know seeing so many strong women in the industry that also look different than they did 1020 years ago . You know like we see different shapes and sizes today 100% beautiful .

Speaker 1

Yeah , transformations are so powerful in so many ways , mentally and physically .

Speaker 5

Yeah .

Speaker 1

I love that . I love that answer . So that kind of goes into my last nutrition and fitness question , which is like what is the number one piece of advice you'd give someone that's just starting their weight loss journey ?

Speaker 5

Don't make it too complicated . It's not that complicated . You don't need every supplement under the sun .

Speaker 1

You don't need any at all .

Speaker 5

Yeah , you don't need to worry about brown rice versus white rice . You know , keep things simple .

Speaker 1

That debate . That's hilarious .

Speaker 5

I agree with you .

Speaker 1

Yeah , simple is easier and I feel like to piggyback off . I feel like so often people are like I'm going to throw the whole kitchen sink at it . I'm going to try to change every aspect of life . It's like just pick one thing and make it simple and start there . You know .

Speaker 5

So I completely agree . Yeah , that's another thing too , if I can add you know baby steps , and if you make a mistake , don't say I fucked up , so it's all fucked up , you know , and then fall backward .

Speaker 1

Yes we're human , we're supposed to make mistakes , yeah . So , that being said , like I have two more questions , and these are more life related , so my first question is is what is the best piece of life advice you've ever received ?

Speaker 5

So something that my grandpa used to always say to me was that his cup was overflowing , and it's probably my favorite saying , and I think , just to tell yourself to fill your own cup first and letting that overflow into all aspects of your life .

Speaker 1

Wow , that one hits home . That one definitely hits home . Let that one sink in a little bit .

Speaker 3

That was amazing .

Speaker 1

I love that . So my last question what would you say today ? What continues to drive you and fuels you to continue going forward in this crazy game we call life ?

Speaker 5

I think a couple of things . As a kid . I grew up with nothing . I definitely grew up in poverty . I didn't have the best step running , so wanting to be so far from where I came from , you know , and just wanting to better myself every day because I know I'm capable of so much more than that . And then , secondly , my clients . They motivate the hell out of me , you know the way they push themselves every day and seeing them grow so much is huge .

Speaker 1

You're going to be the one , the one to break the cycle and to change your lineage . So that's freaking awesome . I love that , and so thank you so much for taking the time to come on my podcast . Next up , we have my friend , ryan Johnson my man . Thank you so much for coming on .

Speaker 4

Hey , what's good man . Good seeing you again .

Speaker 1

So you know , I met this guy very recently , actually in January . We had some amazing conversations and I thought he'd be a perfect guest to have on . So , essentially what I'm doing here , I have five questions . Three of them are like health and fitness related . I know you've worked with a lot of people and you've built an amazing YouTube channel . By the way , if you haven't go subscribe , it's down in the description . So I have three questions there , and then I have two more that are more like life related . So let's dive into it , man .

Speaker 4

So number one .

Speaker 1

What is the biggest misconception about fitness or nutrition that you would like to debunk ?

Speaker 4

I'm going to try to keep it as brief as possible , but I feel like it takes much time , you know , yeah , debunking stuff is like .

Speaker 4

So the biggest thing that I'd like to debunk and I feel like I am on a mission and part of it is selfish and trying to help who I was a few years ago , right , like , yes , it's not the answer for everybody , but it's where I struggled um the most , and that is this idea that you've consistently and always got to be chasing optimal and what is best , and the reality is a lot of it works .

Speaker 4

You just got to find what works for you . I think sometimes we get obsessed with , like , what is the best way to do , and we spend so much time thinking about that that we don't spend any time doing what is good enough , especially from a guy who was I used to be really physically fit , but then , as I look back on it , that's I wasn't taking into account what my life looked like . Like I didn't have kids , I was in the army and the infantry . They set time for us to work out in the morning and in the afternoon , like , and when I was in college , like I had the time to do that , and it's like my goal now isn't to be a it's not to be perfect and it's not to be an elite level athlete .

Speaker 4

That's not my goal . Therefore , why do my protocols have to like line up to that ? So this idea that it has to be perfect , I think , sometimes trips us up . All of it works .

Speaker 1

I love that , thank you . Thank you for sharing that . So I know you kind of mentioned this a little bit , which is like your own journey . So I would love to know , like , what has been the biggest challenge you faced on your own journey and how were you able to overcome that ?

Speaker 4

Yeah , I think one of the things that .

Speaker 4

So I'm a chronic yo-yo dieter . I've always been heavier . I remember when I was in the fifth grade I popped the buttons on my dad's pants . So at nine or ten I remember Fifth grade yeah , a vivid memory my dad was in the Army and I always wanted to follow in his footsteps and be in the Army , so I would wear his uniforms around . But in the fifth grade I could no longer wear his uniforms . That's wild . I've always been a bigger kid , so I've always struggled with yo-yo dieting . I've always been a bigger kid , so I've always struggled with yo-yo dieting .

Speaker 4

I think the biggest takeaway or thing that I've learned or that I struggle with is really adopting this I want to be good for the rest of my life . Even now it's like am I there ? Sometimes it can be discouraging when it's like I'm not as far as I want to be , but really like looking back and saying I am better than I was a little bit ago and that is good enough to keep me going . It's like if you set a goal I want to be under 200 pounds you lose 60 pounds . You're 205 . You can focus on that . Man , I'm not at 200 . And it's like , man , you're down 60 . Like , just ride that out for a while .

Speaker 1

Wow , dude , that was . That was fantastic . Okay . So , that being said , I do have one more for you here . What is the one piece of advice you would give to someone that is just getting started on their weight loss journey ?

Speaker 4

I'm going to give you two .

Speaker 4

Okay that's fair . The first one is I'm going to challenge you to take that long-term approach . I'm going to challenge you to say don't set a goal when you're going to be there . You have to , from the beginning , know that it's going to take a while . With that being said , what's the first actual step to take ? This is going back to the first question is like debunk the myth that there is a right way or there is an optimal . It all works . So the first step is knowing what you know . Now , if you're watching this and want to lose weight , you already have some ideas of some things you can do . So find the one that you think you can fit into your life now and just do that one and nothing else . That's where I'm going to challenge you .

Speaker 1

Don't do anything else until that , one is a habit If you could build .

Speaker 4

I always say three , you said two . If you built two healthy habits a year but I'm talking healthy habits that you do not go back on At the end of a decade , you will have 20 healthy habits that you will live out for the rest of your life . If you try to pick up five habits , honestly , most of us try to do 10 . I'm going to hit 10,000 steps . I'm going to drink a gallon of water . I'm going to get eight hours of sleep . I'm going to hit it's too much . Maybe you keep it for a week , maybe two , maybe , if you're good , three , but then two months later you're doing none of them . So I'm going to challenge you to go slow . So what is the first actual step ? That's going to vary based off of the person , but off everything you know . Now find the one that you think can integrate , keep that up for three , four months . Then do the next one . That's the challenge . Just do one .

Speaker 1

Take the first step . I love that . One step at a time . The fastest I see people fail is when they try to change their entire lives overnight . They wake up in the morning one day like I'm going to lose this weight , I'm going to go do da-da-da-da-da-da . It's like no , just pick one . I love that . That is fantastic advice , man . So , speaking of advice , I have two other questions , and this goes back to just life advice , and I want to know like what is some of the best life advice you've ever received ?

Speaker 4

I was thinking about this . I was walking up just because we're here at Coaching Con and doing well in my business . I have done well in a lot of things and I think part of that is looking back to my dad . He was in the Army . I was fortunate enough to join the Army , go in the infantry . I always wanted to follow in his footsteps . But I remember when I was in the 11th grade he said something to me . I was telling him I was thinking about going in the 11th grade . He , um , he said something to me . I was telling him I was thinking about going in the army and he was like , if you're thinking about joining the army to be average , don't even do it . And like that has shaped , shaped my life . Now I think that probably some of my struggles to that my all or nothing mentality , but I channel that into I'm going to be above average about being consistent over a long period of time , if that makes sense .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 4

That same energy .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 4

Shipped into moderation . But if you're going to be average , don't try . I like that and you're definitely I got deep real quick .

Speaker 3

No , I know .

Speaker 1

That's fantastic , man . That's why I do these and I'm asking pretty deep questions . So I expect those answers in terms of , uh , wanting you to dive into it and I appreciate you being able to go deep like that and really share those those moments and uh , I think that is extremely impactful just to hear that and I I hope our listeners here , I hope you guys , are really sitting with these things , um and so , like that being said , man , like I want to know one last thing , and that is like what , what drives and or what fuels you to continue moving forward on this journey we call life ?

Speaker 4

Yeah , no , I think it a hundred percent . Um comes down to wanting to serve and to make an impact . Um , the thing that drives me is absolutely um my family and wanting to drive impact there . And money like doesn't do anything for me . Like I've made money in the past and I was like empty on the inside , um , because I felt like I wasn't having an impact .

Speaker 4

I , I think it's just a drive . It's cliche , but sometimes the things that are cliche are absolutely true . It's like is is wanting to make a bigger impact . I think um just understanding , with my weight loss journey , the thing that I have learned is , if I can stay consistent for a long time , I'm going to do great things . So the thing that keeps me going on the low days is like I now I know I can have one of those , but a low day doesn't negate the good days ahead . That is what is different from now than before is that it really is that 80-20 rule . So the thing that drives me is to have impact . That's what , on a day where it's not going well , the reason that I'm able to get back up the next day is know that well , if I get at it today , I'm going to have that impact .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I always like to say to clients and to other people around me is like the low days are not what define you , it's how you respond and react to those days will make you who you are .

Speaker 4

A hundred percent , like on a weight loss , like specific thing . I stress eat . I think after my first appointment I kind of picked it up there . I've been a stress eater for a while . I still stress eat . When I started doing this full-time there were some stressful days it happened .

Speaker 4

For sure To think that I'm going to go the rest of my life and not stress . Eat food brings me some level of comfort . To deny that is to deny reality . The difference between now and five years ago , when I was at my heaviest , is I would stress , eat and the next day I would wake up and I would say why did you do that ? You shouldn't have done that . What were you thinking ? And that would lead into weeks of eating bad , whereas now it's like a bad day if I have a 10 000 , which I don't do , but I may do a six or seven K day every once in a while . I still stressy . But the difference is if I have one 6,000 calorie day , that is not going to determine where I am a year from now , unless I wake up the next day and I'm like why did I do that ? What's the point in even trying today ?

Speaker 1

And when you wake up and make that difference of I'm just going to get right back to what I was doing before and realize I'm human . I can make mistakes . There's no such thing as perfect , and that's clearly why you've seen success in your life , success in your business and , uh , it's only getting better man . So thank you so much , I appreciate it dude , thank you so much for taking the time and I'm excited to share this with these lovely humans , me too , man .

Speaker 4

Thank you , love you , bro , I appreciate it .

Speaker 1

And that's a wrap . This was one of the most amazing experiences ever here at CoachingCon . Not only were the speakers great , but , more importantly , I got to meet some of the most amazing humans . On top of that , these conversations not only inspired me , but I hope you were able to take some sort of value away from this today , and I hope you can go actually take action and implement the things that you learned so you can continue furthering your journey to help you become the best version of yourself . So thank you again for taking the time to listen . If you haven't already , please go like and subscribe . You mean the absolute world to me and I'll catch you on the next one , peace .

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