{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":0.56,"endTime":2.622,"body":"Welcome, um, to the living the dream"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2.686,"endTime":5.63,"body":"podcast with curveball. Uh, if"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":5.67,"endTime":8.422,"body":"you believe you can achieve"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":8.486,"endTime":9.57,"body":"chi chi,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":18.71,"endTime":21.494,"body":"welcome to the living the dream with Curveball"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":21.582,"endTime":24.446,"body":"podcast, a show where I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":24.478,"endTime":26.768,"body":"interview guests that teach,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":26.904,"endTime":29.616,"body":"motivate, and inspire. Today,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":29.688,"endTime":31.8,"body":"we're going to be talking about diversity and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":31.84,"endTime":34.808,"body":"inclusion, as I am joined by diversity"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":34.864,"endTime":37.696,"body":"and inclusion specialist Jamie"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":37.728,"endTime":40.464,"body":"Middleman. Jamie is the founder of"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":40.512,"endTime":43.128,"body":"Flame Bearers, which is a storytelling"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":43.184,"endTime":46.184,"body":"platform that celebrates the stories"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":46.352,"endTime":48.256,"body":"of women Olympians and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":48.288,"endTime":51.192,"body":"Paralympians from champion to household"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":51.256,"endTime":53.894,"body":"name. Flame Barriers has received"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":53.982,"endTime":56.862,"body":"several awards. Jamie founded it when she was"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":56.886,"endTime":59.622,"body":"in college, getting her masters, and it"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":59.646,"endTime":62.286,"body":"has touched the lives of people in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":62.318,"endTime":65.022,"body":"48 countries and all around the world."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":65.206,"endTime":67.982,"body":"So we're going to be talking to her about everything that she's up"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":68.006,"endTime":70.886,"body":"to. Jamie, thank you for taking time out of your"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":70.918,"endTime":72.606,"body":"busy schedule to join me."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":72.758,"endTime":75.262,"body":"Thanks for having me, Curtis. I'm really excited to be"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":75.286,"endTime":75.926,"body":"here."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":76.118,"endTime":78.63,"body":"Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":78.67,"endTime":79.338,"body":"yourself?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":79.494,"endTime":81.73,"body":"Yes. Hello, everyone. I'm"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":81.77,"endTime":84.73,"body":"Jamie, um, founder and CEO"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":84.81,"endTime":87.69,"body":"of Flame Bearers, which is the world's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":87.73,"endTime":90.49,"body":"first media and production company that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":90.57,"endTime":93.554,"body":"elevates the stories of the best female"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":93.602,"endTime":96.37,"body":"athletes in our world. 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So those are"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":119.928,"endTime":122.52,"body":"athletes with physical disabilities. Half of our"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":122.56,"endTime":125.496,"body":"athletes are women from the global south, women"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":125.568,"endTime":128.54,"body":"who identify outside of traditional"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":128.84,"endTime":131.696,"body":"norms, if you will. Um, so they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":131.728,"endTime":134.552,"body":"look different, they sound different, they believe in different things."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":134.616,"endTime":137.458,"body":"And this is important because if you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":137.474,"endTime":140.354,"body":"can see it and you could hear it, you can gee it. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":140.402,"endTime":143.394,"body":"we are providing role models for girls"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":143.442,"endTime":146.226,"body":"and boys from all corners of the world at the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":146.258,"endTime":148.97,"body":"highest level of sports, because we want"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":149.05,"endTime":151.986,"body":"girls to know and boys to know that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":152.138,"endTime":154.762,"body":"they're women who look and sound like them"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":154.906,"endTime":157.83,"body":"at the highest levels, achieving their dreams."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":159.57,"endTime":162.46,"body":"So, tell us about some of the awards that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":162.57,"endTime":165.512,"body":"flame barrister has received due to. 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So, we've now received over"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":174.968,"endTime":177.552,"body":"21 different awards in video,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":177.656,"endTime":180.464,"body":"podcasting and social media work."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":180.512,"endTime":183.464,"body":"Just yesterday, we found out that we won three"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":183.512,"endTime":185.96,"body":"different w three awards, um,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":186.6,"endTime":189.28,"body":"for our work, specifically on a season that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":189.32,"endTime":192.11,"body":"we are in right now. 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That they don't"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":339.17,"endTime":341.826,"body":"have black and brown women at the highest, uh, levels of"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":341.858,"endTime":344.594,"body":"sport who are being portrayed in the ways that they want to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":344.602,"endTime":347.25,"body":"be portrayed. There's not gay woman"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":347.33,"endTime":350.042,"body":"athletes at the highest level of sport who are"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":350.106,"endTime":353.066,"body":"having their stories told on their terms. And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":353.098,"endTime":355.844,"body":"I wanted to be a part of providing"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":355.892,"endTime":358.636,"body":"those role models for girls from around the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":358.668,"endTime":361.652,"body":"world. So everyone felt like there was"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":361.676,"endTime":364.228,"body":"a space for them. There was an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":364.284,"endTime":367.044,"body":"opportunity for them to go"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":367.092,"endTime":369.988,"body":"towards what they want, if they were to so choose that they want to be"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":370.004,"endTime":370.92,"body":"in sports."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":372.94,"endTime":375.644,"body":"So you cover a wide range of"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":375.772,"endTime":378.484,"body":"athletes such as, you know, people"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":378.572,"endTime":380.276,"body":"that have been heard of, like,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":380.308,"endTime":382.996,"body":"suburban, but you also cover"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":383.068,"endTime":385.716,"body":"people that have never been heard of. Tell us"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":385.748,"endTime":388.364,"body":"about, you know, some of the people that you have"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":388.412,"endTime":391.052,"body":"covered in some of your important guests and why."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":391.236,"endTime":394.204,"body":"Sure. Um, such a good question, Curtis. So,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":394.332,"endTime":397.124,"body":"like you said, it's important to us to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":397.212,"endTime":399.924,"body":"cover a wide range of athletes. 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So, I hope that answers your question,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":668.766,"endTime":669.49,"body":"Curtis."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":670.47,"endTime":672.81,"body":"That absolutely answers my question."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":673.27,"endTime":675.818,"body":"So, due to the, uh, culture and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":675.974,"endTime":678.45,"body":"language barriers, how do you approach"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":678.53,"endTime":681.05,"body":"international athletes different than you might"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":681.09,"endTime":683.83,"body":"approach, you know, somebody in the United States?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":684.33,"endTime":687.15,"body":"Oh, that is such a good question."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":687.31,"endTime":690.122,"body":"Um, I'm going to be real. It's challenging. It"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":690.186,"endTime":693.07,"body":"definitely is, in the sense that,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":693.45,"endTime":696.202,"body":"um. So I am bilingual. I speak English"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":696.266,"endTime":698.97,"body":"and Spanish, but, no, I do"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":699.01,"endTime":701.906,"body":"not speak all these different languages. 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So we"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":739.008,"endTime":741.648,"body":"are one step removed. So, there's a couple things"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":741.784,"endTime":743.904,"body":"that I think are more important in those"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":743.952,"endTime":746.944,"body":"situations. Um, generally,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":747.072,"endTime":749.904,"body":"I think body language is always incredibly important,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":749.992,"endTime":752.992,"body":"but when an athlete is not able to hear me"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":753.016,"endTime":755.984,"body":"and understand me in English, I think my body language"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":756.032,"endTime":758.52,"body":"is even more important. To show that I'm an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":758.56,"endTime":761.412,"body":"ally, to show that I'm actively listening, to show"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":761.456,"endTime":764.188,"body":"that I'm engaged and on their side."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":764.364,"endTime":767.332,"body":"I think it's also, when working with people in different"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":767.396,"endTime":770.02,"body":"countries, extremely. Even more"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":770.06,"endTime":772.9,"body":"important to know that they will have sign off rights, to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":772.94,"endTime":775.756,"body":"know that their words are not gonna be twisted"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":775.788,"endTime":778.604,"body":"against them. So I always re emphasize when I'm working"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":778.652,"endTime":781.548,"body":"with international athletes that, hey, you're gonna get"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":781.564,"endTime":784.3,"body":"a chance to review this. If there's anything you want"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":784.34,"endTime":787.26,"body":"changed or you feel like it's misrepresented, let us know and we'll change"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":787.3,"endTime":789.682,"body":"it. So, those would be two things that we"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":789.706,"endTime":792.498,"body":"do that are quite different when we work"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":792.554,"endTime":795.346,"body":"with international athletes as"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":795.378,"endTime":797.51,"body":"compared to athletes from the US."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":799.41,"endTime":802.082,"body":"Well, how do you know for an absolute fact"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":802.186,"endTime":805.15,"body":"that flame bearers is making a difference?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":806.25,"endTime":808.94,"body":"Oh, this question gives me goosebumps. Um."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":809.31,"endTime":811.962,"body":"Um, there's three ways."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":812.146,"endTime":814.354,"body":"So, number one"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":814.482,"endTime":817.15,"body":"is, our community tells"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":817.19,"endTime":819.91,"body":"us. So I think I'm a good"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":819.95,"endTime":822.782,"body":"listener. So, our community, we break it"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":822.806,"endTime":825.622,"body":"down into two groups. There's the athletes. We interview"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":825.686,"endTime":828.53,"body":"themselves, and then there's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":828.87,"endTime":831.838,"body":"the. The community. 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So, anecdotal evidence from the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":885.858,"endTime":888.714,"body":"athletes themselves, we also actively"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":888.802,"endTime":891.642,"body":"hear from our community. I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":891.666,"endTime":894.466,"body":"received a note the other day from a mom who"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":894.498,"endTime":897.45,"body":"said, Jamie, we love listening to this"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":897.49,"endTime":900.404,"body":"because I have two boys, and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":900.492,"endTime":903.38,"body":"I want them to grow up knowing what a strong"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":903.46,"endTime":906.236,"body":"woman looks and sounds like. And just"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":906.308,"endTime":909.044,"body":"listening to their stories gives them role"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":909.092,"endTime":911.884,"body":"models who they can look up to. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":911.972,"endTime":914.94,"body":"that is one way that we hear from"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":914.98,"endTime":917.596,"body":"anecdotal evidence from M both the athletes and the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":917.628,"endTime":920.42,"body":"community members. Then there's kind of the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":920.46,"endTime":923.1,"body":"more formal statistics that we can lean"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":923.14,"endTime":926.032,"body":"on that will allow us to say, yeah, we think. 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Over 20 awards, many of which"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":954.27,"endTime":957.102,"body":"are in public service and activism in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":957.126,"endTime":959.662,"body":"diversity, equity, inclusion, from"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":959.726,"endTime":962.43,"body":"experts around the world who"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":962.59,"endTime":965.526,"body":"do not know me, do not know the athletes, but"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":965.558,"endTime":968.518,"body":"say, yes, this is really meaningful work. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":968.574,"endTime":971.158,"body":"it's kind of the third party certification stamp, if you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":971.174,"endTime":971.73,"body":"will."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":973.47,"endTime":976.198,"body":"Well, how does the, uh, Special Olympics"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":976.374,"endTime":979.246,"body":"fit into all, um, the work that you do"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":979.278,"endTime":980.41,"body":"with flame bears?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":980.87,"endTime":983.814,"body":"That is such a good question. And that's actually a source"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":983.862,"endTime":986.662,"body":"of constant confusion. Ah. For"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":986.686,"endTime":989.494,"body":"people. So Special Olympics is an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":989.542,"endTime":991.57,"body":"absolutely incredible organization."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":992.11,"endTime":994.966,"body":"It's actually totally unaffiliated with"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":994.998,"endTime":997.89,"body":"the Olympic and the Paralympic movement. Um,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":997.89,"endTime":1000.87,"body":"we are open and would love the opportunity to work with"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1000.91,"endTime":1003.734,"body":"athletes from the special Olympics, so. But"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1003.782,"endTime":1006.62,"body":"to date, we have not done so. So the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1006.66,"endTime":1009.068,"body":"Special Olympics works with athletes"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1009.204,"endTime":1011.972,"body":"with, um, cognitive disabilities,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1012.156,"endTime":1014.98,"body":"versus the Paralympics is working with athletes with"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1015.02,"endTime":1017.82,"body":"physical disabilities, and the Olympics"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1017.9,"endTime":1020.604,"body":"works with individuals without physical disabilities."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1020.732,"endTime":1023.5,"body":"So, to date, we have not worked with"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1023.54,"endTime":1026.412,"body":"special Olympians, but that's absolutely something that we"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1026.436,"endTime":1027.64,"body":"would be open to."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1028.94,"endTime":1031.886,"body":"Okay, thank you for clearing that up. Tell"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1031.918,"endTime":1034.806,"body":"us about any current or upcoming projects"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1034.838,"endTime":1037.798,"body":"that you and flame bearers are working on that listeners need to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1037.814,"endTime":1038.734,"body":"be aware of."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1038.862,"endTime":1041.486,"body":"Yes. So I'll give a shout out"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1041.558,"endTime":1044.374,"body":"first to our current season. This is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1044.422,"endTime":1047.31,"body":"all about women who competed in Paris this past"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1047.35,"endTime":1049.35,"body":"summer. So these are Olympians and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1049.39,"endTime":1052.31,"body":"Paralympians. All these conversations are"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1052.35,"endTime":1055.014,"body":"co hosted by May Berenice Mete,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1055.142,"endTime":1058.058,"body":"who is a two time Olympian in figure skating,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1058.254,"endTime":1061.074,"body":"a six time national figure skating champion."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1061.202,"endTime":1063.97,"body":"And we sit down with these women, many of whom"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1064.09,"endTime":1066.89,"body":"we all watch during the Olympics and the Paralympics, take"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1066.93,"endTime":1069.898,"body":"home medals. These are women who are household"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1069.954,"endTime":1072.946,"body":"names. They're also women who you haven't heard about,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1073.098,"endTime":1075.962,"body":"and they actually tell us who they are. So when"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1075.986,"endTime":1078.89,"body":"we tune into the Olympics or the Paralympics, we"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1078.93,"endTime":1081.546,"body":"see the highlight reel, we see the 30"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1081.618,"endTime":1084.516,"body":"seconds that they're on the screen, and then"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1084.668,"endTime":1087.484,"body":"guess what? They go home. In these conversations,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1087.572,"endTime":1090.572,"body":"we actually get to know them. So if you want to tune in to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1090.596,"endTime":1093.268,"body":"hear stories about who you watch during the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1093.284,"endTime":1096.06,"body":"Olympics, the Paralympics, definitely check out our"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1096.14,"endTime":1098.52,"body":"flame bearers pathways to Paris series"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1099.14,"endTime":1102.012,"body":"upcoming. We're really excited. And Curtis, I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1102.036,"endTime":1104.748,"body":"haven't shared this yet, so this will be the first place"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1104.804,"endTime":1107.796,"body":"that we will be announcing this. We are in the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1107.828,"endTime":1110.7,"body":"process of producing a new series on, um, the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1110.74,"endTime":1113.396,"body":"decision makers behind women's sports."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1113.548,"endTime":1116.316,"body":"So historically, we have always"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1116.388,"endTime":1119.284,"body":"focused on the athletes. What we're going to be doing"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1119.332,"endTime":1122.036,"body":"in this series is really giving"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1122.108,"endTime":1125.1,"body":"voice to the decision makers, male or"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1125.14,"endTime":1127.996,"body":"female, who behind the scenes, be they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1128.068,"endTime":1130.516,"body":"investors, be they owners, be they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1130.588,"endTime":1132.908,"body":"coaches, who are really the decision"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1133.004,"endTime":1135.9,"body":"makers, investing and really"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1135.98,"endTime":1138.812,"body":"curating a culture that is supportive of women's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1138.836,"endTime":1141.664,"body":"sport. So you can stay tuned for updates"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1141.712,"endTime":1144.18,"body":"on that series in the coming weeks and months."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1146.56,"endTime":1149.36,"body":"All, uh, right, so everybody can keep up with everything that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1149.4,"endTime":1151.9,"body":"you up to. Throw out your contact info."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1152.48,"endTime":1155.368,"body":"Absolutely. So, first of all, we have"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1155.384,"endTime":1158.072,"body":"a website, flamebearers.com."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1158.176,"endTime":1161.128,"body":"so flame, as in the thing in the Olympic torch"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1161.304,"endTime":1163.98,"body":"bears, as in the people who bear them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1164.22,"endTime":1166.82,"body":"Um, we actually have a contact form on our"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1166.86,"endTime":1169.268,"body":"website. If anything I said today"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1169.404,"endTime":1171.972,"body":"sounds right up your alley. If you're like,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1172.076,"endTime":1174.612,"body":"wow, what Jamie and her team is doing is really"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1174.676,"endTime":1177.556,"body":"cool. I want to be a part of it somehow. You don't"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1177.588,"endTime":1180.436,"body":"even know how, need to know how you want to be a part of it,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1180.468,"endTime":1183.428,"body":"but you're like, you know what? I believe in that, and I want"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1183.444,"endTime":1186.228,"body":"to support it. Fill out the form and we'll get back to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1186.244,"endTime":1189.004,"body":"you. If that takes too long, you can also"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1189.052,"endTime":1191.736,"body":"just reach out to us on social media. We're"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1191.768,"endTime":1194.3,"body":"on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1194.84,"endTime":1197.816,"body":"x flame bears. If you don't want to do"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1197.848,"endTime":1200.792,"body":"any of that and you just want to reach out to me directly, my name"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1200.816,"endTime":1203.77,"body":"is Jamie Middleman. You can shoot me a note, Jamie, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1203.77,"endTime":1205.1,"body":"lamebearers.com."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1207.04,"endTime":1209.912,"body":"Okay, close us out with some final thoughts. Maybe if that was"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1209.936,"endTime":1212.76,"body":"something I forgot to talk about, that you would like to touch on, or any"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1212.8,"endTime":1215.72,"body":"final thoughts that you have for the listeners and give out your"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1215.76,"endTime":1216.664,"body":"website again."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1216.832,"endTime":1219.026,"body":"Absolutely. So our website is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1219.128,"endTime":1221.862,"body":"flamebearers.com. and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1221.926,"endTime":1224.51,"body":"final advice. One of the things that I have"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1224.55,"endTime":1227.518,"body":"learned with working with so many of these"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1227.574,"endTime":1230.17,"body":"incredible athletes is that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1231.39,"endTime":1234.182,"body":"we all have that capacity. We can all"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1234.246,"endTime":1236.91,"body":"have the ability to tap into our inner"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1236.95,"endTime":1239.774,"body":"Olympian and our Paralympian. And there's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1239.822,"endTime":1242.766,"body":"characteristics that unify all"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1242.798,"endTime":1245.582,"body":"these best in class athletes, many of which"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1245.686,"endTime":1248.684,"body":"are based in resilience, are based in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1248.732,"endTime":1251.72,"body":"positive attitudes, are based in community."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1252.14,"endTime":1254.724,"body":"And what I like to convey to listeners is that,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1254.772,"endTime":1257.732,"body":"yes, you know, when I look up to the best athletes"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1257.756,"endTime":1260.26,"body":"in the world, I'm in awe. I am not like"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1260.3,"endTime":1262.82,"body":"them. But whatever I'm"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1262.86,"endTime":1265.644,"body":"doing, I have the ability to tap"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1265.692,"endTime":1268.412,"body":"into the qualities that make them the best in the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1268.436,"endTime":1270.16,"body":"world. And you do too."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1272.14,"endTime":1274.95,"body":"All right, ladies and gentlemen, for more on flame"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1274.99,"endTime":1277.99,"body":"bearers, go to flamebearers.com to keep"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1278.03,"endTime":1280.646,"body":"up with everything that they're up to. 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And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1302.586,"endTime":1305.482,"body":"Jamie, thank you for all that you and, uh, flame bearers are doing. And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1305.506,"endTime":1306.93,"body":"thank you for joining me."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1307.09,"endTime":1309.93,"body":"Curtis, thank you for having me. I love what"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1309.97,"endTime":1312.714,"body":"you do. I've checked out a lot of your work and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1312.802,"endTime":1313.75,"body":"keep it up."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1314.61,"endTime":1316.938,"body":"For more information on the living the Dream"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1316.994,"endTime":1318.378,"body":"podcast, visit"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1318.474,"endTime":1322.522,"body":"www.djcurvefball.com."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1322.706,"endTime":1325.474,"body":"until next time, stay focused"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1325.562,"endTime":1327.182,"body":"on living the drain."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":1327.246,"endTime":1327.47,"body":"Drain."}]}