{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":0.72,"endTime":3.617,"body":"Welcome, um, to the Living the Dream podcast"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":3.761,"endTime":6.525,"body":"with Curveball. Uh, if you believe"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":6.865,"endTime":9.205,"body":"you can achieve, cheat."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":18.665,"endTime":21.545,"body":"Welcome, um, to the Living the Dream with Curveball"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":21.665,"endTime":24.561,"body":"podcast, a show where I and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":24.593,"endTime":27.553,"body":"a few guests that teach, motivate,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":27.609,"endTime":30.441,"body":"and inspire. Today, we're going to be"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":30.473,"endTime":33.249,"body":"talking about wisdom, as I am joined by"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":33.297,"endTime":35.433,"body":"author and highly"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":35.529,"endTime":38.001,"body":"renowned physician"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":38.073,"endTime":40.169,"body":"researcher Laura"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":40.257,"endTime":43.097,"body":"Gabion. Laura is an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":43.121,"endTime":45.633,"body":"author. She released a book called, uh, Common"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":45.729,"endTime":48.305,"body":"Wisdom, where she scientifically"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":48.465,"endTime":51.321,"body":"defines wisdom. So we're going to be"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":51.353,"endTime":54.289,"body":"talking to her about how she came up with that and the steps that she"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":54.337,"endTime":57.151,"body":"took. She did a lot of interviews to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":57.343,"endTime":60.247,"body":"put in this book. So, Laura, thank you so much for joining"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":60.271,"endTime":61.127,"body":"me today."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":61.311,"endTime":62.927,"body":"Thank you for having me."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":63.111,"endTime":65.615,"body":"Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":65.655,"endTime":66.395,"body":"yourself?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":67.535,"endTime":70.471,"body":"So, I am a physician, I'm a"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":70.503,"endTime":73.495,"body":"researcher, and those are different things. You can"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":73.535,"endTime":76.255,"body":"see patients as a physician, but you can. 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Um, I was really taken back initially"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":113.991,"endTime":116.787,"body":"that we really did not know much about it,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":116.931,"endTime":118.895,"body":"so that's why I studied it."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":119.835,"endTime":122.523,"body":"Okay, well, what kind of physician are"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":122.539,"endTime":123.095,"body":"you?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":123.875,"endTime":126.803,"body":"I. It's on emergency physician. And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":126.899,"endTime":129.667,"body":"so you go to medical school for four"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":129.731,"endTime":132.595,"body":"years, and then you apply to something called"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":132.675,"endTime":135.659,"body":"residency. And in residency is when"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":135.707,"endTime":138.067,"body":"you kind of become that doctor."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":138.251,"endTime":140.331,"body":"So pediatricians or"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":140.403,"endTime":143.393,"body":"surgeons or emergency physicians,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":143.489,"endTime":146.161,"body":"whatever it is you become, you do in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":146.193,"endTime":149.153,"body":"residency. But in addition to residency, I did"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":149.329,"endTime":152.169,"body":"three more years of, uh, training"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":152.297,"endTime":154.005,"body":"to learn about research."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":156.945,"endTime":159.785,"body":"Okay, well, coming"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":159.825,"endTime":162.273,"body":"up to your book, as we were talking about in the green"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":162.329,"endTime":165.265,"body":"room, you interviewed a lot of people, so"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":165.345,"endTime":168.105,"body":"kind of tell us what you did to put your"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":168.145,"endTime":169.005,"body":"book together."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":169.465,"endTime":172.281,"body":"Well, it's funny because first of all,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":172.393,"endTime":175.281,"body":"I've had different reactions. 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Um, I noticed that all we knew about it was"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":196.881,"endTime":199.695,"body":"anecdotal or subjective."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":200.035,"endTime":202.307,"body":"And so I decided to study it."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":202.411,"endTime":205.147,"body":"And then I realized that the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":205.171,"endTime":207.915,"body":"only people who can identify the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":207.955,"endTime":210.363,"body":"what are other people, not"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":210.419,"endTime":212.419,"body":"tests or. Or"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":212.507,"endTime":215.467,"body":"questionnaires. And then I realized"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":215.531,"endTime":218.147,"body":"that wisdom has an inverse you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":218.251,"endTime":220.979,"body":"relationship with the age, and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":221.027,"endTime":223.675,"body":"that it peaks when you're 56 and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":223.761,"endTime":226.684,"body":"70s. And that's why the people I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":226.77,"endTime":229.189,"body":"interviewed were 50 to 79 years"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":229.237,"endTime":231.933,"body":"old. And it's not different"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":232.029,"endTime":234.89,"body":"based on gender or race or, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":234.957,"endTime":237.573,"body":"political affiliation. It is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":237.629,"endTime":240.517,"body":"different based on region. So if"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":240.541,"endTime":243.445,"body":"you have someone from Asia, for example,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":243.525,"endTime":246.221,"body":"or the Middle east, is different than the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":246.253,"endTime":248.941,"body":"wisdom in North America. And that's what I looked"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":248.973,"endTime":251.445,"body":"at. I looked at the wisdom"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":251.525,"endTime":254.385,"body":"in the US And Canada."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":257.065,"endTime":259.689,"body":"Okay, well, doing the research of your"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":259.737,"endTime":262.553,"body":"book, you found eight primary elements"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":262.649,"endTime":265.625,"body":"of wisdom. Can you explain what those eight"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":265.665,"endTime":266.945,"body":"elements are? And."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":267.105,"endTime":269.881,"body":"Yeah. So it's funny because the reason"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":269.953,"endTime":272.68,"body":"the book is called Common Wisdom,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":272.68,"endTime":275.545,"body":"um, is because I found"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":275.625,"endTime":278.169,"body":"the eight most common"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":278.297,"endTime":280.977,"body":"elements between the people. And the first"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":281.041,"endTime":283.661,"body":"one, um, is the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":283.733,"endTime":286.549,"body":"most common, and I'll name all of them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":286.597,"endTime":289.245,"body":"And the last one is less common. So the first"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":289.285,"endTime":291.145,"body":"one. So in order,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":291.565,"endTime":294.357,"body":"resilience, kindness,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":294.541,"endTime":297.405,"body":"positivity, spirituality,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":297.565,"endTime":300.181,"body":"humility, tolerance,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":300.373,"endTime":302.465,"body":"creativity, and curiosity."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":303.125,"endTime":305.925,"body":"And it's funny because curiosity is the final"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":306.005,"endTime":308.955,"body":"one, but I feel like to have a lot"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":308.995,"endTime":311.935,"body":"of all the others, you need curiosity."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":314.355,"endTime":317.123,"body":"Well, out of those eight elements, which one"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":317.179,"endTime":319.015,"body":"surprised you the most and why?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":319.635,"endTime":321.095,"body":"It's funny because"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":322.275,"endTime":325.035,"body":"I'm a Lisa, and I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":325.115,"endTime":327.835,"body":"was born there, and I always learned that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":327.915,"endTime":330.571,"body":"kindness is a sign of"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":330.603,"endTime":333.427,"body":"weakness. And so the second element"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":333.531,"endTime":336.295,"body":"being kindness was surprising to me"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":336.705,"endTime":339.409,"body":"because that's not something I learned about"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":339.497,"endTime":342.385,"body":"or I knew about or, uh, I thought"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":342.425,"endTime":345.265,"body":"was strong. And so these people they interviewed"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":345.305,"endTime":348.193,"body":"were not only kind to the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":348.249,"endTime":351.041,"body":"people around them, they were kind"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":351.113,"endTime":353.473,"body":"in what they did. They were kind to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":353.529,"endTime":356.289,"body":"themselves. They were kind and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":356.337,"endTime":359.193,"body":"like, you know, in whatever"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":359.249,"endTime":362.02,"body":"they. Whether they volunteered or they had nonprofits, um,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":362.729,"endTime":365.385,"body":"or whatever it was they were. That was just such an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":365.425,"endTime":368.397,"body":"important part of their life. And they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":368.481,"endTime":371.413,"body":"surrounded themselves with people that were kind, too."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":371.589,"endTime":374.434,"body":"And just to find those 60, I did"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":374.519,"endTime":377.053,"body":"ask all 60 the same 10"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":377.149,"endTime":380.005,"body":"questions. And kindness is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":380.045,"endTime":382.305,"body":"something that was very important to them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":384.605,"endTime":387.437,"body":"Well, out of the elements, which one was the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":387.461,"endTime":390.261,"body":"most difficult to put into context and why"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":390.333,"endTime":391.477,"body":"or describe?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":391.621,"endTime":394.541,"body":"You know, it's funny because I'm a physician, I'm"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":394.573,"endTime":396.997,"body":"a researcher, and I always"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":397.101,"endTime":400.033,"body":"learned that spirituality"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":400.129,"endTime":403.097,"body":"was not something to think about. So that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":403.161,"endTime":405.897,"body":"chapter was really hard for me. When I"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":405.961,"endTime":408.569,"body":"first wrote the spirituality chapter,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":408.737,"endTime":411.737,"body":"I was working with an editor, and he got back to me."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":411.761,"endTime":414.721,"body":"He's like, nah, that does not work."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":414.833,"endTime":417.745,"body":"And I. He's like, let's put on hold. And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":417.785,"endTime":420.689,"body":"so it Ended up being the last chapter"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":420.737,"endTime":423.561,"body":"I wrote because I didn't"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":423.593,"endTime":426.577,"body":"really have it in me. And I always felt like if"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":426.601,"endTime":429.591,"body":"you can't see it, or I was learned if"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":429.623,"endTime":432.599,"body":"you can't see it, you can't measure it,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":432.767,"endTime":435.567,"body":"then it doesn't exist. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":435.671,"endTime":438.575,"body":"spirituality was definitely something that was hard"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":438.615,"endTime":441.399,"body":"for me to wrap my head around."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":441.527,"endTime":444.435,"body":"But the people I spoke with definitely believe"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":445.015,"endTime":447.99,"body":"that there is something bigger than them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":447.99,"endTime":451.29,"body":"Um,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":451.29,"endTime":454.045,"body":"what, based on your work, what is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":454.175,"endTime":456.565,"body":"the actual definition of wisdom?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":457.345,"endTime":460.089,"body":"No, based on. Right. So first of all, when"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":460.137,"endTime":463.113,"body":"I thought about it initially, it"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":463.129,"endTime":465.565,"body":"was always, you know, I'll see it."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":466.185,"endTime":468.985,"body":"When I see it, I know that they have"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":469.025,"endTime":471.873,"body":"it. And so it was kind of like, oh, not"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":471.929,"endTime":474.345,"body":"really descriptive. But I define"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":474.425,"endTime":477.401,"body":"wisdom now as my eight"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":477.473,"endTime":479.969,"body":"elements that I talk about in my book, common"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":480.017,"endTime":482.763,"body":"wisdom. And, you know, I'll say"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":482.819,"endTime":485.147,"body":"again. Resilience, kindness,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":485.331,"endTime":487.531,"body":"positivity, spirituality,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":487.643,"endTime":489.535,"body":"humility, tolerance,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Speaker B","startTime":490.035,"endTime":492.651,"body":"creativity and curiosity. 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That's wisdom"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":820.629,"endTime":822.309,"body":"right there. Visit"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":822.397,"endTime":825.069,"body":"lauragabayan.com check out her"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":825.117,"endTime":827.725,"body":"book. Follow Rate Review Share this"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":827.765,"endTime":830.105,"body":"episode to as many people as possible."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":830.405,"endTime":833.317,"body":"Jump on your favorite podcast app, check"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":833.341,"endTime":836.061,"body":"out the show. 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