{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":0.72,"endTime":3.617,"body":"Welcome, um, to the Living the Dream podcast"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":3.761,"endTime":6.525,"body":"with Curveball. Uh, if you believe"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":6.865,"endTime":9.205,"body":"you can achieve, cheat."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":18.625,"endTime":21.465,"body":"Welcome to the Living the Dream with Curveball"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":21.585,"endTime":24.265,"body":"podcast, a show where"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":24.305,"endTime":26.933,"body":"I interview guests that teach,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":27.069,"endTime":29.813,"body":"motivate and inspire. Today"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":29.869,"endTime":32.469,"body":"we're going to talk about how to get government grant"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":32.517,"endTime":35.133,"body":"assistance as I am joined by government"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":35.229,"endTime":37.965,"body":"expert, government program expert and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":38.005,"endTime":40.349,"body":"author Matthew Lesko."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":40.517,"endTime":43.245,"body":"Matthew has diverted 49"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":43.325,"endTime":46.237,"body":"years of his life to helping people. He"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":46.261,"endTime":49.053,"body":"has the Lesco help group. He"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":49.149,"endTime":51.501,"body":"has book. His book has been very"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":51.573,"endTime":54.415,"body":"successful, and he has created"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":54.455,"endTime":57.199,"body":"a successful infomercial, been on"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":57.247,"endTime":60.055,"body":"programs like Letterman, Oprah, Larry"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":60.095,"endTime":63.007,"body":"King, and Good Morning America. So we're going"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":63.031,"endTime":65.375,"body":"to be talking to him about, uh, how"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":65.535,"endTime":67.999,"body":"Americans can get grant assistance from the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":68.047,"endTime":70.975,"body":"government. So, Matthew, thank you so much for joining me"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":71.015,"endTime":71.623,"body":"today."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":71.799,"endTime":74.555,"body":"Well, pleasure to be here."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":75.03,"endTime":77.997,"body":"Uh, I still, I mean, I've been doing this like 50 years, and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":78.151,"endTime":80.985,"body":"every time just having an opportunity to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":81.025,"endTime":83.769,"body":"try to educate people about what's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":83.817,"endTime":86.405,"body":"available in our country and they don't know. And,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":86.62,"endTime":89.437,"body":"uh, I'm going to do this till I die. I'm 81 now, but"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":89.512,"endTime":92.365,"body":"I may have another 10 years or more,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":92.58,"endTime":95.049,"body":"uh, in me to do this. And it's an"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":95.097,"endTime":97.921,"body":"opportunity that, uh, you give me to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":98.033,"endTime":100.805,"body":"help try to educate people about these benefits."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":101.185,"endTime":104.057,"body":"Absolutely. Well, why don't you start off by telling everybody a little"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":104.081,"endTime":105.125,"body":"bit about yourself?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":107.225,"endTime":109.993,"body":"Well, I say"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":110.049,"endTime":112.809,"body":"81 years old. I never thought I'd live this long."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":112.857,"endTime":115.561,"body":"But more important than not live this long, just have so much fun at"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":115.593,"endTime":118.521,"body":"81. Man, if I knew 81 was going to be so good,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":118.553,"endTime":120.085,"body":"I would have got here earlier."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":121.585,"endTime":124.033,"body":"I'm having the time of my life, things are working"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":124.089,"endTime":126.841,"body":"better. Uh, and I think the thing"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":126.913,"endTime":129.833,"body":"is, uh, there's a lot of stuff you don't"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":129.849,"endTime":132.814,"body":"have to worry about. You know, at, uh, least"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":132.854,"endTime":135.806,"body":"I'm fortunate enough that way. Um, I don't worry"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":135.83,"endTime":138.674,"body":"about paying my rent anymore. 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You"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":525.307,"endTime":527.923,"body":"know, there's so many sharks in that one or two and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":527.939,"endTime":530.707,"body":"Google that they're going to rip you off and all this kind of stuff."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":530.811,"endTime":533.487,"body":"So if you don't have money, you really stay away from Google."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":533.571,"endTime":536.079,"body":"Google is good for people who have money and could"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":536.127,"endTime":538.663,"body":"buy things. If you can't buy"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":538.719,"endTime":541.503,"body":"things and you have problems, you can't"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":541.599,"endTime":544.103,"body":"use Google. I mean, that's a biased opinion,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":544.159,"endTime":547.015,"body":"but I think it's really true. There are"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":547.055,"endTime":549.999,"body":"options. So let's say you have a grant, you need to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":550.047,"endTime":552.967,"body":"pay rent. Okay. Uh, you're in Wichita,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":553.031,"endTime":554.435,"body":"Kansas, is that right?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":555.855,"endTime":557.127,"body":"That is correct."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":557.311,"endTime":559.029,"body":"What's your zip code, Curtis?"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":559.207,"endTime":561.202,"body":"67203."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":561.645,"endTime":564.497,"body":"67203. Okay, if you had a"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":564.521,"endTime":567.169,"body":"problem with rent, here's what you do. You don't go to Google."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":567.297,"endTime":569.566,"body":"You go to findhelp.org. the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":569.731,"endTime":572.038,"body":"key is the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":572.203,"endTime":574.51,"body":"people who give"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":574.675,"endTime":577.441,"body":"money are.org or.gov. the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":577.473,"endTime":580.417,"body":"people who want your money are dot coms. So you stay"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":580.441,"endTime":583.321,"body":"away from dot coms unless you have money. And you only"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":583.353,"endTime":585.012,"body":"go to.org"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":585.351,"endTime":588.075,"body":"or.gov if you don't. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":588.115,"endTime":590.587,"body":"I'm putting my website now is"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":590.651,"endTime":593.285,"body":"findhelp.org and ask for"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":593.42,"endTime":595.986,"body":"my, um, zip code."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":596.121,"endTime":598.688,"body":"I'm going to put"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":598.823,"endTime":601.389,"body":"in yours. 67203. Okay,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":601.524,"endTime":604.091,"body":"now. Okay, it says"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":604.226,"endTime":606.792,"body":"there's 2264 programs in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":606.927,"endTime":609.494,"body":"my zip code that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":609.629,"endTime":612.196,"body":"give out free money."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":612.331,"endTime":614.947,"body":"2264, every one of them. None of them will charge you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":614.971,"endTime":617.903,"body":"money. See, this is what people don't know. God."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":617.959,"endTime":620.751,"body":"Okay, so, uh, that's why I should not even be in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":620.783,"endTime":623.727,"body":"business. If people knew this. 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They may or may not be able to help you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":667.115,"endTime":669.955,"body":"because they all have different requirements and things like that,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":670.115,"endTime":673.027,"body":"but at least now you have a short"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":673.091,"endTime":676.027,"body":"list. It's sort of like, um, well, getting a job."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":676.091,"endTime":678.987,"body":"You want to know the. You want to contact the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":679.011,"endTime":681.955,"body":"people who are hiring, not just every company on the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":681.995,"endTime":684.827,"body":"street, right? So if you know the people who are hiring,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":684.931,"endTime":687.899,"body":"you know you have a better shot. And whether they're going to hire you,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":688.067,"endTime":690.843,"body":"it depends, right? Between you and them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":690.979,"endTime":693.619,"body":"So the same way with getting a grant, you know, here's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":693.667,"endTime":696.579,"body":"61 people that give out rent grants and help"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":696.667,"endTime":699.279,"body":"for your rent, and you need rent,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":699.447,"endTime":702.239,"body":"and you have to make a match with one of them. And"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":702.407,"endTime":705.407,"body":"that's what you have to learn to do. And you don't have to learn anything. You just have to call"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":705.431,"endTime":708.271,"body":"the people, hey, I need help. That's the only words you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":708.303,"endTime":710.815,"body":"have to know how to say, I need help."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":710.975,"endTime":713.87,"body":"Because every one of these offices, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":713.87,"endTime":716.815,"body":"that already get money, they're not going to get money from you."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":716.975,"endTime":719.871,"body":"So they're not going to kiss your ass and try to get money. 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And that's what we're all about,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":728.747,"endTime":731.415,"body":"is how to use these resources,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":732.355,"endTime":734.735,"body":"how to get into them and use them."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":735.195,"endTime":738.027,"body":"Otherwise, if you're thinking about, oh, this is how"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":738.051,"endTime":740.295,"body":"it should work, you can't think."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":740.955,"endTime":743.815,"body":"Yeah, you can't believe. I mean,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":744.595,"endTime":747.379,"body":"first of all, it does not. 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And these programs are laid on top of each other, on top of"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":759.311,"endTime":760.995,"body":"each other, on top of each other."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":762.575,"endTime":765.423,"body":"So you have to figure out how to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":765.479,"endTime":768.383,"body":"use them, you know, uh, because they have"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":768.399,"endTime":771.255,"body":"to follow the laws. See, the laws give them the money"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":771.295,"endTime":774.151,"body":"to give out to you. And if they don't do it by the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":774.183,"endTime":776.879,"body":"laws, then they go to jail. So they have to follow the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":776.927,"endTime":779.711,"body":"laws. You can't call up and say, this is a stupid thing you're"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":779.743,"endTime":782.145,"body":"doing. That's okay. You're not. They're not going to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":782.185,"endTime":785.001,"body":"change. You got to learn the stupid way they're doing"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":785.033,"endTime":787.721,"body":"it so you get the money. If you don't need the money."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":787.793,"endTime":788.073,"body":"Good."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":788.129,"endTime":790.417,"body":"Okay. Don't worry about. 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How many people did I solve getting,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":958.12,"endTime":961.075,"body":"uh, with getting grants for them? Every"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":961.195,"endTime":963.995,"body":"elected official is different. But that's it. Because if they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":964.035,"endTime":966.939,"body":"help you get $10,000 or save this or whatever, you're going"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":966.947,"endTime":969.571,"body":"to vote for them for the rest of your life."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":969.763,"endTime":972.683,"body":"And they know that. And that's how they stay in power. That's"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":972.699,"endTime":975.291,"body":"why people who are in Congress"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":975.483,"endTime":978.123,"body":"never lose. They retire."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":978.299,"endTime":981.151,"body":"Let's talk about the, uh, Urban Homestead"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":981.223,"endTime":983.595,"body":"act and how you talk about how"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":983.935,"endTime":986.767,"body":"you can help people get, uh, $1 homes through"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":986.791,"endTime":987.383,"body":"it."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":987.559,"endTime":990.191,"body":"Right? That's that, uh, and that's one of my"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":990.223,"endTime":992.75,"body":"favorite, uh, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":994.335,"endTime":997.151,"body":"stories because Urban Homesteading act has been around the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":997.183,"endTime":999.755,"body":"government since the 60s. And I remember"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1000.455,"endTime":1003.391,"body":"reading, uh, about it, you know, back, you know, 20, 30, 40"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1003.423,"endTime":1006.303,"body":"years ago or whatever, and reading that, and I said,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1006.359,"endTime":1009.025,"body":"hey, that's not the urban homestead that"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1009.065,"endTime":1011.745,"body":"houses for a dollar. And HUD has a"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1011.785,"endTime":1012.881,"body":"collection that. So you go to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1012.913,"endTime":1016.633,"body":"hud.govhud.gov"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1016.809,"endTime":1019.729,"body":"and then put, slash counseling, and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1019.737,"endTime":1022.641,"body":"you make an appointment with a HUD counselor and ask"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1022.673,"endTime":1025.481,"body":"them about the programs in your area. 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Now the government,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1046.323,"endTime":1049.115,"body":"you know, it sometimes doesn't run very efficiently. And they have this"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1049.155,"endTime":1051.915,"body":"house, they do nothing for five, ten years just"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1051.955,"endTime":1054.819,"body":"sitting there and it goes to hell. And they say, oh God, we got to"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1054.867,"endTime":1057.45,"body":"get rid of this thing. And so, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1057.715,"endTime":1060.401,"body":"they called it the Urban Homesteading act because they're"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1060.523,"endTime":1063.269,"body":"mostly in urban areas. 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And you can be a landlord or"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1155.217,"endTime":1157.085,"body":"just sell uh, it"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1158.265,"endTime":1161.153,"body":"and make money on the sale. Um, and"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1161.169,"endTime":1163.873,"body":"there's about seven or eight organizations in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1163.929,"endTime":1166.897,"body":"every state that specializes in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1167.041,"endTime":1169.605,"body":"helping people without money get homes."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1170.045,"endTime":1172.945,"body":"One is hud.gov so you want"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1173.033,"endTime":1176.025,"body":"to go there, hud, uh.gov counseling. 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You get."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1402.807,"endTime":1405.671,"body":"Not to collect money from you, but they don't tell"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1405.703,"endTime":1408.543,"body":"you that. And that, and that's a pity. So"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1408.599,"endTime":1411.287,"body":"organizations like that, that will do it actually in"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1411.311,"endTime":1413.98,"body":"that uh, website, uh,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1414.391,"endTime":1416.531,"body":"too. 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You don't have to know what the hell you're doing because that's why"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1452.235,"endTime":1455.211,"body":"they're there to help you when you don't know what you're doing."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1455.323,"endTime":1458.307,"body":"And they all got paid. 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How they"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1968.003,"endTime":1970.875,"body":"can get free government assistance,"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1970.995,"endTime":1973.851,"body":"government grants for, ah, a lot of things"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1973.883,"endTime":1976.803,"body":"that they might be looking for. Jump on your favorite"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1976.859,"endTime":1979.331,"body":"podcast app. Follow us. Give us a"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1979.363,"endTime":1982.275,"body":"review. Share the show if you have any"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1982.315,"endTime":1984.955,"body":"guests or suggestion topics, Curtis Jackson"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1985.035,"endTime":1987.931,"body":"1978@att.net is the place"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1987.963,"endTime":1990.951,"body":"to send them. Thank you for listening and supporting the"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1990.983,"endTime":1993.815,"body":"show. Matthew. Thank you for all that you"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1993.855,"endTime":1996.671,"body":"do to help us and educate us and thank you for joining"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":1996.703,"endTime":1997.279,"body":"me."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":1997.447,"endTime":2000.115,"body":"My pleasure. It's nice to meet you, Curtis."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2000.735,"endTime":2003.087,"body":"For more information on the Living the Dream"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2003.151,"endTime":2004.503,"body":"podcast, visit"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2004.599,"endTime":2008.719,"body":"www.djcurveball.com."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2008.887,"endTime":2011.599,"body":"until next time, stay focused"},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)","startTime":2011.687,"endTime":2013.295,"body":"on living the dream."},{"speaker":"\u003e\u003e Matthew Lesko","startTime":2013.375,"endTime":2013.575,"body":"Dream."}]}