Near(l)y Insane
Near(l)y Insane
Financial Ruins
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We're probably going to. All right. Oh, wait, hold on. All right. Welcome everybody to a brand new episode of Nearly Insane. We had a pre-show discussion that we may as well just make it about the show. Make the show. I mean, yeah, financial ruin is fucking true. Yeah. Nationwide, not Memorial Day.
SPEAKER_00I was talking about the financial ruin of this country. Well, I'm the one who had to bring it up. Joshua came in the door and I go, sit down. When you sit down, I get everything set up. I go, I gotta ask you, because I know I ain't losing my fucking mind here. It feels like you are though, until you bring it up to others. And I was telling them, I said, I was having a conversation with like coworkers. I'm like, dude, why isn't money lasting?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Like so, like, did they all agree?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're like, we don't know. We're fucking all broke, too, dude. We're all fucking everyone's on the struggle bus here, dude. And then I brought it up to my wife. I go, What's the deal? I go, You get Social Security plus a paycheck.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Why in the fuck are we broke? Yeah. I don't understand. Yeah. Nothing makes sense, dude. I understand we have our bills, but they're just bills, dude.
SPEAKER_05We should be nothing left after bills. Like I said to you before, I refuse to give up my vices. I don't care. I'll fuck I'll fucking get credit at a fucking corner store for cigarettes if I have to. I'm not giving up my vices, bro. I'm refusing. If they're gonna fucking rape my fucking money and take my paychecks like you do for everything, like and I'm not even overspending, bro.
SPEAKER_00I'm not shocked. I'm not buying, I don't buy anything for myself. You know what I have to do to fucking get myself clothes for work for the summer? Every paycheck, uh no, every paycheck, I gotta go out and see what I can find on the clearance rack for fucking shorts, dude. Because I can't even afford a fucking pair of khaki shorts at Walmart at full price. If it ain't on the clearance section, I can't find it at literally like a salivation army. I guess I'm not fucking getting it. Because I'm making decent fucking money now, dude. I'm making about $1,300 every two weeks, and I got nothing left.
SPEAKER_05I really think that's like the unspoken thing is this what's pissing people off. It's like we're we're salary-wise, I'm making way more than my my mom and I would say my mom and dad, but my mom and Dave did. Yeah, right. Same thing with you.
SPEAKER_00Money-wise, you're tripling, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the income is toppling what they did.
SPEAKER_00Nothing to show. But we can do nothing with it. But nothing to show for it.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Nothing. Yeah. To have a vehicle is putting puts you in debt. Yeah. For like the whole six years.
SPEAKER_05And it's kind of like fucking like, but it's it's a fucked up cycle. Because by the time by the time the car's paid off, you're gonna need a fucking new one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it's this constant fucking cycle. Yeah, to fucking yeah, to fucking.
SPEAKER_05It's kind of like one of those payday loan things, like a predatory fuck predatory fucking loan.
SPEAKER_00Because by the time you get it, your car's gonna be like 13 years old. Right. You're gonna be like, dude, it's almost $200,000 on it now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00And now I gotta trade this in for something new to get me back in a payment. Right. Yeah. Because that's pretty much what's gonna happen. You're gonna wind up back in a payment. Because you have no choice, because you're right, your car's outdated, you want something a little bit newer, and you feel like that's a luxury, but it's not, it's a hindrance, dude. Yeah, I'd be better off back at Uber, but I work in Herkimer and I can't.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Or I'd be paying way more.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05Oh, speaking of, I read something about this too, is the apps now, like the Uber Lyft. They like say for this dude was saying that that's that would happen.
SPEAKER_04This dude is saying that that um that when when an announcement, Quinn keeps knocking his curtains down and he bleached the curtain on his Quinn.
SPEAKER_05See, it is so funny for you to laugh at your misfortune. Fucking kid throwing a bitch fit over Quinn. Alright, calm down, bro. Oh good word.
SPEAKER_02He slammed that game and kept locking out.
SPEAKER_05Yo, isn't it funny how like whenever you're mad, fucked up, like little silly shit happens, like you'll be pissed off and like your fucking your fucking uh your like the pocket on your fucking pants hooks onto a fucking knob or something. Or like I'm walking out with a book bag or something and fucking hooks on the door, you want to fucking freak out in the morning. Like, dude?
SPEAKER_02Yellows it with a bad day one time, and I shut my car door. Yeah. And I fucking went to move my fucking like and my shoelaces around. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, you know, good motherfucking.
SPEAKER_05Only happens when you're having a shitty day. It's like shit like that makes you believe in God. Because it's like you know what I mean? Like you're playing a fucking joke on me, bro. You have to. Why are you pranking me, but like you just got punked, nigga? Like, what the hell are you gonna say? Am I being punked? Yeah, I am by Jesus Christ himself. Like Lord and Savior, thank you. Thanks for never helping a nigga. Nah, but then when you do it if it's a double-edged sword, none of it fucking me. No, you're right. I'll wait, I'll win some, but I'll owe half that money to somebody. I won't get it. You win a bet. Well, yeah, yeah, goes my fucking car insurance. Cool.
SPEAKER_00Like you want to know what you're doing.
SPEAKER_05You didn't get to enjoy it. You can't even win a bet and like be like, oh man, let me go get a fuck a fucking uh eight ball or something.
SPEAKER_00Because I think that dude, the last time I won a bet, you know what I did? I go, oh fuck, dude. I go, well, at least I could if I can pay national grid now, and then fucking like I'll have more in my paycheck next week. Right. Like, and that's dude, that's what I mean. That's what I mean about something's not right, dude. Yeah, there's something's off. I don't know what the fuck it is. Something's something's wrong, dude. Because there's no way it's not fucking me, bro. No. I because like I said, I thought I was losing my shit. No, you're not. And fucking all of a sudden, people at my job that make more money than me are like, bro, like we're all fucking dead, bro.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00And I work at a place, dude, who absolutely fucking refuses to pay you overtime.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_00Like, bro, you gets you getting overtime? Oh, they'll pay it, you're getting a write up with it. Wow. They don't they will not pay overtime, dude. Unless they fucking ask you to, they'll pay it. You will get you will get a write-up for it. You will get a write-up for working extra for them. Yeah. Because I think that's even beating their ass. No, you're right, yeah. Because you gotta understand where where where I think for any business, really. Where I work, well at least the the the the department I work in, yeah, is not insurance billable services.
SPEAKER_05Right. So this is all grant-based.
SPEAKER_00I'm a grant based.
SPEAKER_05So they're they're like limited, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They're they're like on a fixed budget kind of thing. I'm a I'm a grant-based program. So that's why like our pay rate is different than what was in Utica.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00Because Utica everything's a billable services. They bill insurance, we don't. Right. We're a community-based, grant-based thing. All right, so but I I still shouldn't feel like fucking I need food stamps. Right. And I don't even qualify, dude, and I'm broke. Yeah. God forbid you pay all your bills and be an outstanding citizen.
SPEAKER_05I want to be a fucking foreigner, dude. Before we went live, right? Me and Sean, we were talking about how before the election, me and him had discussions about yours taking a while to fix. And I I think we'd be more accepting of how things are if there was like an upward trajectory. Where it's like there, you're like, yo, a couple more months will be good, bro. What's this?
SPEAKER_00It just keeps fucking down, down, down. It's yeah, it's definitely getting worse, dude. Yeah. I can dude when when I feel like I'm being wrenched, like seriously, I'm being fucking kneecaped big. Yeah, I feel like I'm being kneecapped by the mob. Like it's fucking ridiculous, dude. Like, it's not fair anymore, bro. Because, like I said, between me and my fucking wife, dude, we make over fucking $30,200, $30, $300 a fucking month, bro. Almost, no, I'm sorry, almost like.
SPEAKER_05Like I said, like going to a movie shouldn't feel like a luxury, it should feel like a treat.
SPEAKER_00Joshua, my paycheck average is about $13 and change. Yeah. So just me is $20,1600, $26, $2,600, all right? That's after taxes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Now you got she gets $1,100 in Social Security, plus she gets $300 a week. So yeah, you're talking about $40, almost $40.
SPEAKER_05Almost five, $45, $400,000.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, $45, $4,600 a month.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we're fucking broke, dude. Yeah. We can't even save, bro. Like I said, I was talking about homegrown cat who lives in Oklahoma.
SPEAKER_05You gotta say the cost of living down there. You used to live in Oklahoma, so you know the cost of living down there is fucking, and she's like Oklahoma City. You know what I mean? So the cost of living down there is a lot fucking less than here, but they don't make as much as we do here. Like their minimum wage is still at fucking like $7.25 and shit, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_05So like if you make like $10 an hour down there, you're balling.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for real. You're breaking. Yeah, make it 20-inch rims and shit. For real. You're ballin', son. Yeah. I don't think you're selling drugs.
SPEAKER_05Imagine, imagine if if I could somehow navigate it to where I could fucking just like be somewhere there. Because I work from home. I could probably pull it off. I just have to be here on the on in office day for the one by off. Yeah. I'll probably be fucking stacking if I could have if I had my jobs elsewhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I'd be I'd be taken.
SPEAKER_00Dude, because there are some companies, dude, where I've like, I see these TikTok videos. These dudes are working in Thailand for American companies, dude, and they're living like kings.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I believe it, bro. Me and you've had to talk about that before that diamond job at Walbart. It goes back to whatever to that uh island. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, Yeah, you go down there with two grand, they come out with you. It's like you rent the fucking island and shit. Yeah. You got servants and fucking. He's like, they have like a pig feast, yeah.
SPEAKER_00He goes, I'll give you a fuck whole pig wow for fucking like fucking 300 people. You can rent the whole top floor of the nicest hotel in the fucking town for the whole month. I'm like, I'm like insane. And price of gold's start cheap there too, and they have their own gold. Wow. Remember, he said that's why they always want gold? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's why we always have a town, a lot of gold. He goes, because gold there's cheap.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's probably one of those hot spots where it's just like one of the fucking minerals that they have.
SPEAKER_00Literally easy as shit, dude. Right. It's cheap as fuck for some reason. Gold is so cheap there.
SPEAKER_05It seems like a very because obviously I don't pay attention to the world economy, right? So as far as I could tell, this seems like a very American problem to me. Because people overseas don't seem like they're struggling.
SPEAKER_00I don't hear any fucking buddy bitching the computer right now, dude. And it's well been Americans the fucking whole time. Right. But I'm I still I hate fucking saying it, dude. But like there's just a part of me where I feel like that we can't get out of the fucking the debt that we got put in from the Biden administration with all that fucking money we came to the illegals, dude.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, that and then you gotta think everyone likes to blame the fucking billions into fucking everyone likes to blame the steel mini sex. Fuck you. Two thousand dollars to average.
SPEAKER_00Some didn't even get that, right? Some got fourteen hundreds, seven hundred. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Like a lot of not everyone got to two grand, bro. No, and even with that, two grand's a drop in the fucking buck. I'd spend two grand a fucking day and a half. The reason why it was not even getting anything, I've not even had walk away with a TV.
SPEAKER_00This shit getting caught up on bills. Yeah, dude. There was that was given literally to stimulate the fucking economy, bro. Right. Because they knew that money was gonna go out and come right back into fucking corporations.
SPEAKER_05The only thing I did was stimulate my fucking drug dealer's pockets.
SPEAKER_00Me too. My shit, I even got a front. I fucking I stimulated fucking I stimulated fucking City Liquors, I fucking stimulated fucking Marcy Discount.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00I stimulated fucking I stimulated my fucking dude train. I fucking stimulated fucking everybody do choo choo, motherfucker. Bring me another fucking.
SPEAKER_05Me and Savvy were taking worse than fucking weaker.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, bring me another coke and shit.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, bring me a little sack. Excuse me, you're gonna have to come. Alright, bet. We both got our shit.
SPEAKER_00I'll be here over, bro. I'll be there in a little bit. Like, dude, but that's what I'm saying. But still, I mean it that that was the intention. They think we did you a favor, but they know people were so in debt. Yeah. Quinn, leave it, I'll do it.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Then stop yelling.
SPEAKER_05But fucking Yeah, everyone likes to blame the stimulus checks. And okay, I'll I'll concede it's part, a very small part. But if you want to play that fucking game, okay, fine. It's a part, okay, fine. But the main contributor is not bad, dude.
SPEAKER_00No, it's not a good thing.
SPEAKER_05We've been borrowing off of ourselves ever since the Federal Reserve came into fucking existence.
SPEAKER_00I think Federal Reserve is the problem.
SPEAKER_05It is, because they've devalued devalued our fucking dollar enough. They fucking devalued our dollar to a point like I said also, before we went live. I'll do it. Before we went live, we're tripling our parents' income. But we have nothing.
SPEAKER_00Nah, bro. We have no potential to buy in the home.
SPEAKER_05No!
SPEAKER_00And like even if even if we get our credit up, we don't have the finances to buy it.
SPEAKER_05Doesn't the country think like nationally, don't they think that's a fucking problem? Because really, what what we can't bind in the nail.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no shit.
SPEAKER_00Hey Kevin, in the in the toolbox, your mother's got a whole thing in the small nails. A whole box of it, dude. This is gonna be a great episode. Multiple choice. What's going on in the fucking background today, Sean? Fucking welcome fucking home. Holy shit, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, happy Memorial Day.
SPEAKER_00No shit. Can't even have a cookout. It's about to rain. I know what a shitty fucking Memorial Day weekend. At least I got paid day off. True. That was the only positive. I have the whole week off. I took the week off. I think, yeah, fucking, I don't understand, bro. But like I shouldn't be, I shouldn't feel like I need to shake a cup down the street.
SPEAKER_05Yo, I was thinking about testing that theory and going out there one day, because I'm off this week. Just pick a day. And first of all, I have someone probably to try to fight me for the spot because you have like regulars and shit. But I don't want to go out there with a size, see how much I can walk away with, just to see.
SPEAKER_00Probably like a good day at Uber. Think so? I'd probably do alright. Just get some dirty shit on. Rub some dirt on your face, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Get some fucking nasty spray yourself with something nasty, say stink. And say you'll do it for fish fillets. Like the other guy does. Yeah.
unknownFish.
SPEAKER_00You know what sign literally says it. You can see it, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, fish filet.
SPEAKER_00Fish filet and a coke. Yep. You don't even want money, dude. He wants a fish fillet and a coke every day. And then he leaves the corner. That's it. As soon as he takes off, yeah, as soon as he gets his food.
SPEAKER_03Ah, that's good.
SPEAKER_00Yo, I respect him. You ought to actually buy him something. And then he'll go back out for lunch and do the same sign again. Fish fillet and a coke.
SPEAKER_03The Muslims are outside. I'm leaving.
SPEAKER_01Jesus fucking Christ. What's wrong with this episode, bro? The Muslims are outside. Oh, by the way, one of them killed a chicken. He stepped on him on accident. Oh, they got chickens in the yard.
SPEAKER_05Yo, remember when I was living at fucking Mills? Two houses down, they had chickens and roosters and shit. Should wake me up. I'm like, yo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'd fucking want to fuck kill them all. Especially if you had a long night drinking, bro. Yep, somebody died. But yeah, there's something wrong. Not wrong. Yeah, for a bigger setup.
SPEAKER_05And like I said before, also, too, part of it is that we don't have you don't actually cash your paycheck anymore.
unknownNope.
SPEAKER_05So you don't have it in your hand to look at and go, okay, yo, this is $500.
SPEAKER_00No, but you ever notice that when you do want that cash, they charge you for it. Yeah. You want that fucking $300. You ain't fuck you're gonna get a fee $350 each time you take $300 out because that's the max. Right.
unknownYeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So if you make $1200.
SPEAKER_05Like, for example, the one at fucking the one at the triangle, the smoke shop across from Gene. Yeah, right? Their max is fucking $200. I I'm not I'm not doing two different transactions to get $400 out to make a fucking payment of my car.
SPEAKER_00No, I'm not doing that either, bro.
SPEAKER_05You're not getting me for six bucks to take out fucking because you're you're now that's that's a purposeful fucking thing. Your max is 200 no 200. Come on, dude. I can see three.
SPEAKER_00No, you wanna know why they do it? It's because they get debt and they know people are gonna come down there with their social security card. True. They're fucking the direct expression card, they're gonna give a fuck about the fee because that money that's free.
SPEAKER_05No, and then um I had our not really an argument, but um it was it was um Sam, right? When he was running fucking um Sam team.
SPEAKER_00Are you gonna bring up the fee for buying shit?
SPEAKER_05Oh, we we can go there, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I argue about that one time. If I spent $30 in your store, you should never give me the fucking fee.
SPEAKER_05I agree, there should be a limit.
SPEAKER_00If I spend over fucking $20, I should not be paying a 50 cent fee if I spent $40 in the fucking store.
SPEAKER_05So he he he used to do me a solid, he he would run my card for like 40 bucks or something, give me the cash. Because he was like, just use the ATM. I go, no. He goes, why? It's only 99 cents. I go, no. I go, maybe for the people that get fucking the fucking EBT fucking cash. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Not for me. My bank hits me with two bucks.
SPEAKER_05And he was like, Oh, really? And I go, Yeah, there's no way you don't fucking know that, Sam. There's no or what no, what's what's his name? Not Sam. What the fuck's his name?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Whatever. I think it was. No, no, the the cool guy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, it was Sam.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, his brow was a piece of shit.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I was at a Yankee Motor counter a couple times talking shit.
SPEAKER_05But nah, so he was cool about it, and he was swiped my card, he charged me 40, give me 40 out of the register. Yeah, because I would tell him, but yo, I I go for this lady over here, and I look my point at her because it was a black chick. She's like, well, that'll be back to me. And I'm like, yeah, because you have fucking EBT cash, yeah, you're not even gonna get the fee. You're not gonna get the ATM fee or the fucking or the bank fee.
SPEAKER_00Just gonna give you the cash. Just like just like if you go to the store with cash in your debit card, yeah, and buy shit at the store, and the lady behind you buys uh the same exact items as you, you know you're paying more, right? Yeah, yeah. Like EBT's tax free. Tax free.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00So you understand that that's why this that's why the people have a bug up that's with EBT stuff. It ain't about people getting food. No, it's about there's zero contribution, dude. Like they're not even being taxed for their fucking food. No. They're not, but I am. Yeah. You know what I got, dude, when I was born? I got a fucking slap on the ass and made me cry, and I'm still crying still. Yeah, that's that's what I got. The cry never never I fucked. That's literally what I got as a fucking goddamn red-blooded American, is what I got. I got fucking inherent fucking debt that I'm probably gonna be stuck rent living in a fucking apartment for the rest of my life because I'm never gonna be able to afford a fucking life.
SPEAKER_05That's what I was gonna get into before Clinton was fucking freaking out about the curtain. How no how how doesn't like like the federal government, how do they look at how don't they look at that as a huge problem and see that that's why people don't give a fuck? That's why everyone's doing the the the fucking buy now, pay later, and fucking all that shit. Because no one has a prospect for the future. Yeah, everyone's everyone has accepted- We know we're gonna stay in debt, dude. Everyone has accepted that you're not gonna own a home, that your car, you're always gonna be stuck in a payment cycle with your fucking car. It's a problem, you're not gonna own shit. It's kind of like what that dude said during COVID, he was right. You're you will own nothing. Yeah, that guy that fucking with the evil sounding name, like whatever the fuck his name is, the the World Economic Forum fucking guy.
SPEAKER_00Because you want to know what if you think about it, like the like, like I think the way he explained it too about property. Yeah, he's like, he's like, you do understand, he goes, you spent 30, say 30 years on your mortgage, your home. Yeah, you pay it off, and then say you live another 15, 20 years, you're still paying taxes on that home, your property taxes. Yeah, he goes, and then you die, uh-huh, and then most likely, either that if that home is not inherited or given to someone in their will, they take it back. Guess what? We take it back now. It's no longer you now someone else can buy it for 200,000. Yeah, and you don't ever truly own it. No, you're renting, anyways.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no matter what.
SPEAKER_00It's paying more because if shit breaks, you gotta fix it.
SPEAKER_05That's what kills me too. It's like it has to happen to me, but I've heard stories of, you know, I mean, it could very well happen to me, but I've heard stories of people going, they try to get a mortgage right from the bank, and they go, Oh man, we can't approve you for this fucking twelve hundred dollar a month payment. I've been paying rent for 1400 fucking eight years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what do you mean? I'm paying $13.50 double what they would they wouldn't give me a mortgage for $900.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00Which is, I think, it's insane to me. Yeah, because I'm paying all of those here anyways, except the water.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00So how you gonna tell me that I don't qualify? But I'm already paying. But I'm already paying, yeah, I'm paying more. Obviously, I'm not evicted, yeah. No shit. Obviously, my landlord can tell you pay up the date. Right. You want to talk to him? Like, like, what the fuck, man? Dude, but everything turns into an issue. Like, and even when you bring up the loan stuff, that's an issue, bro. If I want to go to the humanities side and get a dog, yeah, they gotta call my landlord and say, is it okay for Sean to have a dog?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's yo, it's kind of like we're in daycare.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like I it's again adult fucking daycare.
SPEAKER_05We all need a babysitter. Yeah, you need somewhat, you need some kind of approval for this, or you need the okay on this.
SPEAKER_00That's why, that's why like I hate saying it, but I spent a very long time where I truly believe where I'm free. I ain't free, nigga. You're out of your fucking mind. I'm not fucking free, I'm in chains like the fucking man, is what I am. I'm in financial fucking chains, is what I'm in. Is like if America is the land of the free, and that that's that that's why I want to fucking land of the free if you go fucking to Mexico, become a citizen there, and then climb back over the fucking wall, and then fucking come in and be an illegal, then you get a bunch of shit for free.
SPEAKER_05That's why I want to do an Eastern European travel like month or something, just to see, bro. Just see how they live, right? Just to really see if they definitely ain't like this, dude. That's what I mean. Like, but if I were to see it for myself, you know, and no, I think I like it, and I'll be like, fuck it, but I'm just not going back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what I mean. I think that if either one of us went to fucking Europe, we wouldn't come back.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00I don't think I'd come back, bro. I don't fucking think so because it seems like the way they live is more free than us. I don't care if I had to go to the UK and take a risk of being stabbed by a knife gang with the bumblecot down there, and then fucking deal with the bullshit financial headache here. I'll tell you right now, let some dude with that weird ass accent say some shit to me. Have a knife, bitch. I'm still punching your fucking face. Yeah, you know, mate. Like, I'm gonna fucking smack a bitch, is what's gonna happen. Like, I don't care. But I'm just saying, dude, like there Joshua, there's no way because nobody else, you don't hear any other country complaining.
SPEAKER_05And you know, like social media makes us more connected, so you would know if fucking the guy in France is having an issue with fucking paying his bills. Dude, I think they'd be fucking complaining.
SPEAKER_00I'll be honest with you. I think the only other place that I've seen like it's maybe like UK, right? Like main UK. A mass amount of people bitching and complaining's fucking been Australia. For some reason, you're getting fucking slaughtered down there. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_05I mean, kind of that's connected to Canada.
SPEAKER_00It's oh, are they? Yeah, they're all in one group. UK owns them. Oh that's why their flags.
SPEAKER_05I didn't like Australia is a really unique case because they're they kind of like willingly fuck themselves because they they handed their guns over to the government, bro.
SPEAKER_00They didn't voluntarily that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_05Why would you? Like they're like, here you go, like, no, like what are you doing, bro? And now, like, it's hard for hard for me to feel bad for like, you know, I know some cool Australian people, like, I feel bad for those people in particular, but like as a group, I can't feel bad for you because you gave away your only thing that even the fucking playing field.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it protects you at all. Right. Now you have no product, they get to come with weapons, you get to throw rocks.
SPEAKER_05That's why they're putting them in fucking jails and shit during COVID, remember? Locking them up, putting them in little booths and shit, locking them in and remember that because they couldn't do anything to fight back. That's the only thing that prevented us from going there. How is because we could we could answer we could answer back with gun with gun gun power. Listen. Firepower.
SPEAKER_00I to be honest with you, I think our civilian population probably has more weapons than the military does. I think they have they have more powerful shit. Right. They have helicopters and tanks and fucking missiles and shit. Right. But I think if you went and went went hand-handed hands like rifles and rifles and handguns and guns, and the military tried to do some shit. I truly believe the civilians had win. Me too.
SPEAKER_05I honestly truly believe civilians. Off of like the Midwest and those deep south dudes, yo, them motherfuckers, they don't get a lot of credit, they get overlooked by like the general population. People pick on it. You know what? Them motherfuckers can live off the land and shit. They know how to do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and people also don't understand the amount of fucking veterans, dude. For real that we have in this country that served or no longer enlisted, that have weapons out the ass, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And know how to use them properly, along with our hunters. Yeah. Like that can hit a fucking deer from fucking 200 yards away, right in the fucking heart. Yeah. You think the military's gonna come in and do something with that shit. You come and are you come in?
SPEAKER_05And plus this day, this modern military?
SPEAKER_00And dude, yeah, dude, and not not honest with you, but they don't know our terrain, dude. Where we're at. If the military rolled into Utica, I'm being completely serious here, dude. They would have a real difficult time navigating fucking Cornhill and Lower East Utica, dude. They had a real difficult time. They'd probably get through it. Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you right now, you're you're gonna have dead bodies in the street too. I fucking promise you, dude.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's gonna be honestly brought up to the death all the way down to Arthur Street. I think I I think on a national scale, let's let's put it like this. I bet you fucking Oblock would beat fucking a section of the US military. Them motherfuckers are armed to the fucking.
SPEAKER_00I think I think if you took one bullshit battalion with like a couple hundred and send them to O Block, I don't think they'd win.
SPEAKER_05Or even like sections of Baltimore. That's what I think.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, drop a fucking military dude off in fucking East LA and see how it works out for you. Right, like yo, I mean, like you said, just fun urban warfare. Have fun in Compton and Watts. Right. Have fun there too. Yeah. Have fun east side Dallas. Or fucking Baltimore, Havana.
SPEAKER_06And fucking like Yeah, for real.
SPEAKER_05Dude, have fun in them cities, dude. No, it is, it is like it's like urban, it's kind of like Vietnam on concrete. Dude, yeah. Essentially, let's let's throw some military in Jacksonville.
SPEAKER_00That fucking works out for you. Like, let's go the rat beef is more deadly than fucking military trip. Like I'm saying, at the end of the day, I do would believe that a lot of a lot of these scenarios that are hypotheticals, yeah. That fucking I believe that the military would probably come out in the in the end winning. Yeah, but there'd be mass casualties. Dude, there'd be a lot of dead people, bro. Yeah. There'd be like a lot, a lot of dead people, dude. There'd be a lot of there'd be a lot of American flag coffins, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it would be your own doing. The problem is, dude, I think honestly, bro, not to be fucked up.
SPEAKER_05Do you think do you think that the financial shit is gonna get to a point where people are just like fuck it? Like, is that gonna be the thing that causes the uprising?
SPEAKER_00I'll be honest with you, dude. I think you can prevent it if everyone had come together as a community for one fucking time. And since I've been alive one single time, and say one thing. We are paying nothing for a month. Nothing. Yeah, I'm talking about nothing. We we collapsed the fucking country. Literally nothing. I'm talking about go out and get all your food today, yeah, that you know you're gonna need for at least 45 days, yeah, and then make up your mind. You're paying none of your bills, you're doing nothing, you're going to fucking work and you're coming home. Yeah, you're paying nothing. You're not going to any fucking stores, you're not putting gas in your fucking car, you're doing nothing. You're spending fucking nothing.
SPEAKER_05Well, I think I think if we could actually do that, I think it would level everything out. Because then they'd be we'd be the ones that they have the upper hand. They would have no choice but to load shit. Yeah, exactly. You're not gonna be able to charge anybody $4.59 for fucking gas.
SPEAKER_00Dude, I'm sorry, but there's no there's no way that we aren't being price gouged full circle, dude. Oh, dude. There's no way. For example, bro, $6.99 for a family-sized bag of Doritos, are you out of your fucking mind?
SPEAKER_05Dude, I went to go see Ash at uh Venice. She works at Venice. She's a nurse, she works at Venice, too. Went to go see Ash on what? Fucking Friday night and Saturday night, something? Yeah, Saturday night. Me and Graham watched Saturday night's main event. Two slices of pepperoni pizza fucking eight bucks. Now I understand, right? I don't have to go there. I get it. But pretty much any fucking pizza place you go to now a slice is about fucking 275, right?
SPEAKER_00You want to know what? When I went up, remember what I told you about date night. Yeah, yeah. Right. Fucking I grabbed, because the baby really pretty much only eats like fucking simple shit. Yeah. Like you get them a fucking medium French fry and fucking thing be full.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I thought I'd do the same thing. Get something cheap. Yeah. Ran into fucking Tony's Washington Mills, dude. Got him two slices of cheese pizza, bro. And she cashed me out and she said $7.82.
SPEAKER_05That's exactly what my what my two slices came to.
SPEAKER_00And I looked at her, dude. I looked at her and I go, I thought they'd be like $250.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00She's like, no, they're like $3.75. Bro. Like, what? I remember slices when when places were charged $1.25 to give them side-eye.
SPEAKER_04Remember, we were doing no, it wasn't even that long ago. Pizza Blades would do a dollar slice and ended up the two.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00And now people think two dollars a slice is a deal. They just doubled them, doubled it on you. You shouldn't even go there anymore. Like this is what I mean. Double it right in their phone. What I'm saying is that that's what I'm saying. Dude, us as American people, dude, we're way too understanding of this bullshit. We we accept like I'll use it, I'll use this an actual example, bro. And this fucking shit happened to me, and I fucking almost fucking lost my temper.
SPEAKER_05The thing of Pizza Boys is you're gonna double the slice is the price, you should double the fucking size.
SPEAKER_00They actually made the slice a little smaller, actually. Exactly. Or a little bit smaller, actually.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Alright, go ahead. So yeah, like I was fucking sitting here and I always get like the PlayStation Plus, right? I don't I can't put it this way, I used to get the hot top tier. Yeah, but I can't afford that shit anymore, dude. No, it's like $34.99. Yeah, it's like yeah, $29 something, right? And then with tax. Yeah, it's like $30 something bucks. Yeah. So I can't even afford it anyway. Right, dude. And I don't even use the free game, so I didn't even see the Bitcoin. Right, me neither. Like so I did the middle tier, right? It's the plus, yeah, not the platinum or the gold, whatever it's called. I did the middle one. Yeah, and for the longest time, dude, that shit was like $12.99. Right. Some bullshit, right? Yeah. I fucking was last month, and I never really paid attention. It would just the shit would just come out and just swipe and be like, it was one of those things that you just look at it, but I'll look at it. So finally, dude, I fucking seen it, and I would happen to be at work and I looked. Yeah. And I seen $6.99 PlayStation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I fucking was like, what the fuck's going on? Yeah, you know, I called Quinn.
SPEAKER_01I literally called him, dude. Yeah. Because you happened to be home from school.
SPEAKER_00And I go, I go, Quinn Michael. What did you buy? Yeah. I go, I go, what'd you get on the fucking PlayStation?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He goes, I'm not on the PlayStation. Even ask mom. Dude, they fucking didn't tell you shit and they fucking raised it to $16.99. Oh wow. The $12.99 went to $6.99.
SPEAKER_05It's four bucks, dude. So did they bill you the the they like add on the four bucks separately? No, just they just did the whole thing with $60.99.
SPEAKER_00But normally I'd look, I thought it, I thought it was an app. I thought it was fucking Paramount or something. Right. They never really looked. It'd be six and nine. Just swipe. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, like me. Like if it's under 10 bucks, I really don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Right? But something for like 12, it pops up like, what the fuck are you?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05What are you for?
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Like my Spotify. I know that's coming. Right. And that's so we get to higher too.
SPEAKER_05Spotify, at least they're decent about, they'll give you a week.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh, these apps don't.
SPEAKER_05No, no, but Spotify's decent about we'll we'll retry your payment a couple days. You're like, yo, good looks, bro. And they'll allow you like three three denied before they turn you off.
SPEAKER_00You know what I think's fucked up about that though? Because I had to look. Because like I said, that might have been a situation today. Like fucking they tried around 1130, they tried to take 32.99 out of a bank account and it was like declined. For what? For lack of fucking funds in there. It was enough. I'm poor.
SPEAKER_05No, I mean what was it for?
SPEAKER_00I got the bundle. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. Never had an issue paying it, dude. Yeah. Someone went into paying it. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is what I mean. Yeah, I've never ever ever had a problem paying for something $32.99. Right. It's under $40, dude. Like, I shouldn't, I shouldn't have to fucking message motherfuckers and be like, hey, can you cash at me 30 bucks to get me to fucking my next paycheck? Because I'm fucking broke. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's fucking horrible. But because here's the thing, it sounds horrible to put it in this context. Me and Cassandra got a little nest egg up, okay? But we refuse to touch it because it's for summer.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03We had the money, but we know here's the thing.
SPEAKER_00But we once starts touching it, dude.
SPEAKER_05No, because it's gonna be gone, bro. Yeah, once you do it once, once you cross that Rubicon and you touch it once, you're always gonna dip. But well, I did it last time and we went, right?
SPEAKER_00Quote unquote, I mean if you really wanted to be technical, we ain't broke. Right. But we're broke because we wanted to do something for some.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, right. Which is said that this that's what I was saying a couple weeks ago, maybe even last week, is our parents didn't have this problem. They they just decide, yo, all right, we're taking two weeks off of work or whatever, and we're taking a trip.
SPEAKER_00They didn't have to fuck with it. That's what I mean. I'll put it, I'll put it just an actual example. We our parents didn't set shit up. No, we just would do shit.
SPEAKER_05Okay, like I would get a call. Well, not me, but Dave or my mom would get a call from Tony Hernandez. Like, yo, we're going to water sparking today. You guys want to come? Yeah, sure. Spur of the moment thing. We'd never sit there and be like, well, you know, we didn't really crunch their the numbers or our paycheck, they're like, We gotta figure it out.
SPEAKER_00Right. Hopefully, it comes on the paycheck and have a little bit of extra money anyway.
SPEAKER_05No, like they called that morning, and we'd be like, I'll go up there that day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but this is my story, dude. This is how it was with us, dude. Yeah, and mind you, and I'll put this in actual perspective. You're talking about my mom, my dad, it's five siblings, dude. That's seven fucking people, bro. Okay. My dad would just randomly take a week off fucking week off work and go, we're doing Daniel Lake for five days.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we're like Dirty Lake, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Get in the get in the fucking station wagon and drive all the way to Buffalo, dude. Yeah, and we'd eat whatever we wanted and drink whatever we wanted, and we're on all the rides. We'd rent they rented two fucking campers for us to fucking sleep in and still came back home with cash. That's with seven fucking people. I can't do this with a baby that gets in for free, yeah, and a child under 12, under 13, yeah, and two adults. Can't even pull that off, dude. Yeah. If I tried to do a weekend in fucking old forge right now, I'd fucking live need a loan. Yeah. Because get in a cabin for fucking a week is probably gonna cut you off.
SPEAKER_05Hop on DoorDash while you're out there and you're working on your vacation and trying to try to fund it while you're on it.
SPEAKER_00Like, what the fuck is wrong with this, dude? That's what that's what I mean. Something's not something's something's amiss, dude. Yeah, something's wrong. Something's amiss, bro, because I'm telling you, Joshua, I swear to God, on Poppy's grave, dude. I have had moments in my life, dude, where I've struggled and I've been like this. But it's never been a constant, dude. This just seems like it's actually escalating. Yeah. It's getting a little worse. And it's getting a little bit worse. Yep. It's getting a little bit worse. It's getting a little bit worse. And it's really gotten to the point, dude, to where like I hate to say it because every time I say it, there's always, you know, it could always get worse, right?
SPEAKER_05But you reach a point to where it's like, how much worse can it get?
SPEAKER_00Not right now. For me, it can't not. This is hopefully this is it.
SPEAKER_05Like, this is the this is the floor. We bottomed out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's not, there's no more, there's no safety net.
SPEAKER_05There's nothing below this fucking walking basement.
SPEAKER_00Like, I've never had an issue getting at least my little shit paid. Dude, don't get me wrong, bro. I've had points in time where I'd be able to be like, yo, tell the landlord, listen, I got half your rent, pay the other half next week when I get paid. Yeah, because something happens. I've done I've had to do shit like this. Right. But I'm not having issue with the big bills. It's all the little shit that's surrounding me, bro. It's the car insurance, it's the fucking apps, it's the fucking.
SPEAKER_05Take a fucking defensive driver course, bro. Shit was long. Shit lowered my insurance $50 a month.
SPEAKER_00Really? Yeah, dude. What would you go down to?
SPEAKER_05Uh where are you paying? Well, I go to the trash, it was like $276. Now I'm down to fucking like fucking $198. But uh uh, I think I'm leaving progressive. I'm gonna go somewhere else. My shit expires in July. I'm a guy coming.
SPEAKER_00I only pay $168.
SPEAKER_05See, that's what I mean. Well, I always read online too to never stay with the same insurance company. No, move around. They'll set up in your fucking thing. Yep, dude. But it's fucked up because progressive, they have this thing to where it's like they give you like, I don't know if you ever have progressive, I'm sure you have. Well, they have a thing to where like the longer you're with them, the more rewards you get. It's like a loyalty process. Right?
SPEAKER_00So right now the more they charge you.
SPEAKER_05So right now I'm silver. So like if I keep another six months, I'll go up to gold, and then blah blah blah, and then it's like, you know.
SPEAKER_00What do you actually get? I call them, what do I get? Yeah, save me the fucking money. Yeah, you give me a fucking rental car if I crash. What am I getting here, dude? Right. Because I need to know what I'm getting. Yeah, because I know that the longer I stayed with State Farm, dude. No, I'm sorry, All State, dude. It's just I was there with them for like six years, and I was just like, why is it going up? Right. Yeah, and you know, you're not a bad driver.
SPEAKER_05I can't remember the last one crashes, dude. You know the last crash? You were in a car seat.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it happened in North You could have paid for a fucking wrestling paper you threw a fit about. Yeah, they weren't even open. Yeah, my mom tried telling me that, and I just no, I tried to tell her that too. I was like, it's Sunday, they're not open. Right. You have to order it over the phone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Well, let's just go anyway. I have the cash. That's all I don't have a cart, I have a cash.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Next thing you know, we get hit with a hot tar kettle and get dragged across the fucking road. That was fun. Total only car I had that was mine.
SPEAKER_05That morning, that morning I had an accident with Dave. Yeah, no. On the way to fucking Humstraws or some shit, getting donuts. Two accidents in one day, dude. Motherfucker should tell me I ain't cursed.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, bro, like I don't I don't know what else to do, dude, because you gotta understand. Like, don't get me wrong, there's certain situations that I I know I bring on myself.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah, I busted a nut in the wrong bitch. Well, no, and I'm paying for it.
SPEAKER_05No, no, even that's not even just that stuff. It's just like say say you get a paycheck and you're like, man, I really want to do Coke this weekend, and you spend a hundred bucks, right? And then you forget the something came up. You're set back for two months now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Because you because you made one decision for one night.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, one choice. Yep. And you're paying for it. But dude, that goes for anything. It don't even be that it could be me and the wife want to go and get drunk for a change. It's been fucking six months. Or dinner and a movie. That's what I mean. Go on, say, for example, like I'm saying, use the example. Go out to the bar, yep, get drunk, spend 160 bucks. Yeah, you're gonna pay out, you're gonna fucking suffer the price, yeah, and the consequence for that 160 bucks, you're gonna be paying, you're gonna be paying that debt back for at least two months. Yeah, because you wanted to have fun, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Like, like I was telling you, like, like when I go on a date, I I shouldn't I shouldn't have to treat them like a child. Pick one. We can't do both dinner and a movie, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You know, like I can't, I can't, I Valentine's Day. I can't do flowers and dinner. Right. Pick one. You want the flowers or you want the fucking dinner, bro? Like, how about we do the flowers and I cook at home? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05Like, there's no yo, motherfuckers wonder why people are looking for like extra fuck like like me. I shouldn't have to like circumvent the fucking law to try to fucking make money back just to fucking live.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dude, you're right. Like, what the fuck, dude? Well, I'll put it to you this way. I had I was put in a financial situation, like, I like my job, dude. Yeah, I like what I can do. And I fucking um I'm a family peer advocate, right? So like they wouldn't give me a raise. They gave me one and they did it on purpose. They gave me a raise and they purposely did it before I got my professional license for the fucking job. So they didn't have to give me the max pay.
SPEAKER_05Do you think it was intentional?
SPEAKER_00It absolutely was intentional because they fucking know, dude. Yeah, they knew I was right there on the line to get my professional license, and they knew that if they gave me my fucking gave me a fucking raise at six months, it'd give me fucking at a cheaper rate for a year. So I kind of was like, fuck that, I'm pulling the card on this shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I went in and was like straight up. I didn't even I wasn't even nice. Yeah, I was like, listen, we gotta figure this money thing out, it's not fair. Yeah, I said, I don't understand why you guys just can't give me the dollar fifty. I don't understand. It's like a yeah, it's like a contractual thing, or like well, it's policy for the company. So if they give you a raise, you gotta wait 12 months right for the next one, right? Right. So, and that's what I that's what I said. I went to my boss and I was like, listen, I was like, I want to keep doing what I do. Yeah, I like it. I like my people, dude. I don't want to fucking lose the fucking position or whatever. I go, but I don't understand why I can't just get the dollar fifty, right? Yeah, I'm not asking for the world here, yeah. I was like, just bring me up to the bring me up to the 21 an hour. Yeah, okay, yeah. And fucking, they were like, Well, ask around, but we're doubting it, whatever. So they were decent, they were like, We'll pull it up the line or whatever. Yeah, they bring it up to fucking HR. HR goes, absolutely not. You guys gave me a raise two months ago, right? So this kind of leads into my work story, but go ahead, finish yours. So fucking they told me no, yeah, and I looked at my I looked at my fucking my two my two bosses or ladies, yeah, and I go, Well, it looks like I'm looking for another job. And they go, What? I go, I'm looking for other jobs, then dude. Yeah, yeah. I walked away from them. I went I went into my fucking went to my cubicle, right? Went on to our fucking uh job opportunities, yeah, and I started applying for other shit within the same company, right? Within the same company that paid more, yeah, all right, yeah, and then when they found out I applied for jobs that paid more, they thought they had the fucking enough nerve to pull me aside and ask me what my problem was when I already told you what my problem was.
SPEAKER_05We already talked about it.
SPEAKER_00We had a conversation about money, dude.
SPEAKER_05So this is what happened to me at work on Wednesday, right? It was my in-office day. So this is how I know either someone around me snitched, uh and I don't even know why they would snitch, because okay, you know I've been working in this industry for about a decade, right? Different companies, but between Alorica, Bank America, where I'm at now. I've been doing this since 2019. Yeah, this kind of job, right? Never once has my professionalism ever been called into fucking question, right?
SPEAKER_00So mine has, but I've done shit.
SPEAKER_05No, so I'm on a call, right? Jasmine's over here, the fucking transgender dude alumina is fucking right here. And some chick I don't know is over here. Sitting next to me like I'm sitting next to you, yeah, right? So I'm on a call, and this is what the short film's gonna be about, but I have to change some shit because it can't be exactly to try to protect myself, yeah, right? Just in case anyone it leaks out, yeah. Yeah, right. So I'm on a call, and the guy says, you know, it was a relatively quick call, about two and a half, three minutes, right?
SPEAKER_00Someone around you snitched, then right. So there's no way it wasn't a snitch deal, then I'm looking at like someone around you heard it. But inappropriate.
SPEAKER_05But right, that's so this this this is what you see, this is what he called him with. He said, Um, I had a hard candy and I broke my tooth on blah blah, right? Lemonhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I go, Oh man, I go, that's terrible. I go, I go, man, I go, the lemon head turned evil on you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Right? He laughed, I laughed, whatever. I rec got him on a provider list of where to go. He said the word evil. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah, they know. That's exactly what it is. No, that's what happened.
SPEAKER_05So I'm wondering.
SPEAKER_00That's why when I said to you on the phone, I go, this canceled culture shit's absurd. So someone got offended by the word evil.
SPEAKER_05That's what literally went after. Is it the bitch I don't know sitting at? Because it wasn't Jasmine, because me and her are fucked tracking up, laughing about it. The transgender guy's fucking laughing about it. Yeah. Right? So either the girl that I don't know sitting next to me.
SPEAKER_00That or it was one of the short calls you listened to.
SPEAKER_05Or, and I know I know for a fact it wasn't the client who called in because I had about 30 seconds between that call and the next one. As soon as the fucking next call came in, I get a message from my manager. She goes, Yo, go and do a coaching. And I go, What the fuck? I go, all right, hold on. I'm on a call. Right. Get off the call, go into coaching. And she goes, Joshua, you know, we've had a talk about professionalism, you know. When you I go, what are you talking about? She goes, Well, the call that you just had, you know, um, we heard, you know, I listened to the call and um I'm not sure. You're covering someone's ass, dude. I heard I heard someone say uh I heard you say the word evil, and I go, yeah. I go, but doesn't the context matter? Like it's so what I'm wondering is, okay, so either someone snitched or it's something it's a it's a term that got flagged in the AI.
SPEAKER_00It could be either or but for her, but but for her to be like we listen to it, it sounds like a cover for someone telling. That's my opinion.
SPEAKER_05So so Monday, when I go back next Monday, I'm having a meeting with her. And I'm telling her exactly what I told you. I've been doing this for about 10 years. Never once in my professional has ever been called into question. Right? Now, yes, I did say the word evil. Now I didn't say, oh man, that doctor is evil.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, doctor is evil.
SPEAKER_05Or fucking like or like or like insurance companies are evil or so nothing like that. Yeah, so doesn't the content and the guy laughed at it, and also with with the with the with the pace at which that she pulled me aside, there's no way the guy called back in and was like, yo, not that fast. That guy really pissed me off saying the word evil, it wasn't funny. No, so it wasn't the the member themselves. So I'm sitting here, I'm looking at my fucking my my customer satisfaction fucking scores, which is you know it's pretty much your bread and butter when you're in this fucking industry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what my understanding is, right?
SPEAKER_05So I'm looking at my shit and I'm across the board, bang, fuck, I had like 11 fucking 10 surveys the day before, right? Two from because you know they come in waves. Some don't some days you get fucking six, some days you get two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so some days you get zero, some days you get none, and then actually you get like 11. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I'm looking at my numbers and I'm like, yo, okay, so my customer satisfaction is through the fucking roof. So either this bitch sitting next to me messaged my manager, it was like Josh said the word evil on a call, and I don't think it was appropriate. Or the AI flagged it. So I'm gonna ask straight up. And yo, because I what when I messaged her back about it, I was like, yo, I was like, next week can we have a meeting about my future in this company? That's how I phrased it. Because um, oh that's one thing she said, she said too. She goes, she she goes, she goes, I I don't want you to take it negatively and I don't want you to feel like you can't be yourself. I go, I go, well, I do take it. You get put into a coaching, dude. Coaching's never positive. I go, well, I do take in it personally, and I do take it negatively. And like it her reaction to that, it was kind of like like I broke some like breaking crucial news to her or something.
SPEAKER_00Like she was not expecting a pushback. Yeah, when we get back to mine, I'm gonna tell you how my shit is. That was the issue with mine, too. There was a big problem for some reason.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so this meeting on Monday, I don't know how it's gonna go. I'm not gonna resign as of yet, but the way I'm looking at it is I will fucking DoorDash and write and fucking move fucking trugs.
SPEAKER_00Dude, get your license and door dash, you'll make a ton of money. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, get on as much as you want as you go. You'll get you'll get the platinum like me. You can go on whenever you want. Yeah, work Friday night, make fuck 200 bucks on a Friday night, and fucking make 300 bucks on a fuck Saturday. That's your week.
SPEAKER_05I feel like I feel like that my the job that I do, while it's not physically exhausting, it's mentally exhausting, it's draining, right? And it robs me of my whole day. Yep. When I get off of work, I don't want to write anything because I just spent fucking eight and a half hours, eight hours being fucking personable and fucking I'm creatively drained. Having a conversation is creative work.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know what I mean? Like me and you doing this, I'm having a great time doing it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05But me and you have talked in the past about when you get done with it, you know, yeah. Like, for example, I have a therapy session coming up on fucking Wednesday.
SPEAKER_00I do too. It's 6:30. I get virtuals now because the lady don't like me anymore. Really? The lady don't like me. Yeah, I don't like their old badass.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I'm going back to that because I feel like I need it. You know, there's certain shit that's starting to resurface that I don't like, and I'm trying to get ahead of it, which is a positive, right? But it's like doing all that shit hinders me creatively because I don't want to do anything after at least at least doing the door dashing, I have control. Go off whenever you want. And I feel like I could go on whenever you want my goal. To pay my car insurance today. And hit that number and you can bog the fuck up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I shouldn't feel that way. I'm not gonna lie. If they didn't start, I'll be it sounds fucked up. If they didn't start taking what they were taking out of child support out of mine, yeah, I'll be honest with you, I'd probably still be doing it because I'm not bullshitting, dude. Like, okay, I was gone a lot, but I could on and off when I wanted. Right. Okay. And I was probably making your head, I was probably making between an average there's a gap, but like I'd say between five and eight hundred a week.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so you gotta think, like, with that, I could get paid daily if I want to. Yeah, I can cash out, boom, right there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I don't have to wait for a check. I can go chase the fucking check.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, be like, yo, I need $200 and stay out till you get $200. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So it's like, yo, like, okay, now that my prof to me that crossed the line to me, that my professionalism got called into question when I've been doing this a long time. Never once has that ever been a thing. So I'm asking her now, was this was this like your opinion that it was unprofessional? Because to me, what I said was. Was it a policy driver?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you got an option.
SPEAKER_05Or did it get flagged and this stuff?
SPEAKER_00Like, I want to know the what caused this. Yeah. Because you are right, context should matter in that statement.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It really should.
SPEAKER_05I'm talking about a piece of fucking candy that turned evil.
SPEAKER_00Come on.
SPEAKER_05It's not like I said, oh man, that doctor must have been real.
SPEAKER_00Like I said, it's it's not like I said that the doctor was evil or yeah, like doctor evil, or you didn't swear or fucking anything.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so nah, like I said, like I don't I don't think she was expecting me to like push back like I did. Because normally you'll I'm go with the flow. Well, yeah, whatever, dude. That's won't happen again, whatever. Well, nope. No, not with this one.
SPEAKER_00Not super similar to me. Yeah, so that's why maybe so I'll get to mine. Yeah, this is how finished up with mine, okay. So I went and fucking went on our fucking internal website where there's they it always has job opportunities, yeah. Okay, and I was so pissed that they wouldn't give me the dollar fifty, dude. Yeah, that I'm not lying, bro. I was legit applying for fucking everything I was qualified for. I'm talking about temporary housing, supportive housing, fucking substance abuse peer, family peer in Utica, fucking youth peer in Utica, fucking crisis intervention peer in Utica, fucking every I applied for fucking everything, dude. I was pissed, bro. I was beyond fucking mad. So I didn't realize that one of them that I applied for was in my building. Oh shit. I didn't realize that it gave me her. No, hold on. I'm gonna tell you what happened, dude. Yeah, so it happened to be Herkimer, yeah. And I didn't even think about it, dude. I just was like fucking. Yeah, you were like clicking in fucking race too, just because it works on the internal site, you just gotta click apply and it's done. Oh, because you already have your info. Yeah, everything you determine. Right, right. So you just go click, click, click.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, apply, apply. So I'll just fucking apply.
SPEAKER_00But I did read quickly, be like, oh, do I qualify, click, do I qualify, click, do I qualify? Right, right. But you weren't looking at like no, I wasn't looking at where it was. If it said Poland, I still would have clicked on it. It didn't fucking matter. I was mad as fuck, dude. Right? So I fucking did it, and about 30 minutes later, dude, yeah, um I fucking get this weird look from my boss Gina. She comes out of her fucking office and just looks at me, yeah, and then goes in the room and shuts her door. Yeah, and I'm like, thought she was about to say something to me because we talk all the time about our job because she's my boss. I gotta talk about people and stuff. Yeah, she didn't say anything. So I got up, I go walk through, walk through her because the way our thing works, you walk through and you gotta take like a left and you go straight into the kitchen. Yeah, that's where like you put your food and shit from the whatever you bring. Yeah, I happen to bring some like a small bag of Doritos I brought, so I went to go grab them out of the small kitchen. Yeah, and I'm coming back, and uh the one of the bus from the other department, Charlie Rose, goes, Sean, come here for a second. Yeah, and I go, I go, I looked at him, I go, I go, What's up? She goes, Is this serious or is this a fucking joke? I go, What are you talking about? I look at that. Yeah, right, yeah. You know, I literally didn't know I didn't I know I didn't know I applied for Hercombert. Oh, I thought it was all Utica and around. So I I go, I go, I go, I don't I said, What are you talking about? She goes, Shut my door, yeah, and sit down. Yeah, I go, all right. So I shut her door, and she's not my boss, dude. Right. So I'm uh there was a there was a split second, dude, where I was about to say, yeah, nah, bro. Like, we ain't doing this, dude. Like, if you got a problem with shit, you take it up with my boss, you know what I mean? Right. Almost, but I was like, you know what? I like Charlie Rose, I'll see what she has to say. So I shut the door, I sat down. She goes, um, is this serious? She goes, 'Cause I just got your application. Right? I go, what do you mean you got my application? She was like, Sean, you applied for the fucking treatment apartments program.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00She was like, is it serious or fucking are you is it a fucking joke because you're just mad about the pay deal? I go, well, I I go, it's serious, but it's both. It's both, right? I'm like, it's both. I said it's serious, but I am mad about the money deal. Right. I'm like, yeah, I feel like I deserve the 20.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00It's the max pay for the position. Yeah. You at least it would have kept me happy for a year. They wouldn't have to worry about looking for somebody else. Everyone would have been happy. I go, and then they want to fucking have a bug up their ass about it or whatever. So she goes, she goes, Well, be honest with you. She was like, I would take you in a second. She's like, but you know what? The problem's gonna be, it's gonna be the two upper people. I was saying, because your manager probably has to approve it. They my my boss wouldn't have wouldn't have a problem. Oh, okay. It's the people above that got to approve the switch.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_00So the two ladies above her gotta be like, it's okay if he goes over there. Right. So that same day, dude. Yeah, like everybody must have got the everyone in management must have got the fucking the email that I applied for it. Yeah, because next thing you know, dude, it's about three o'clock, hour before I leave, dude. Yeah, the fucking head, the director lady of our site comes in. Yeah, and we never see her, dude. Fucking ever. We see her maybe twice a month. We never see her sleep. So she came in, she walked through, she goes, Hey Sean, what's up? I got nothing much. How you been? She goes, Oh, not too bad, could be better. And then she kind of walked through the back. Yeah, and she went into the the second in command, yeah, that runs the whole art department. Yeah, there's a director, and then you got the next lady, but she oversees everything in there, yeah, and she does all the corporate stuff. The directory does all the corporate stuff, yeah. Literally does all the work stuff, yeah. So she goes straight into her office and the door shuts, and then fucking the lady comes out, second in command comes out, puts a fucking sign on the door in a meeting. Never seen that shit ever stuck through the fucking door ever. Right, I've been almost a year, never one time. You could tell it was fresh and it was sharpie, you could smell it. Yeah, dude. Yeah, so I'm like oh, so it's like handwritten, yeah. In my on a piece of fucking paper in meeting, right? And it fucking stuck, and she slapped the door mad hard with tape. You heard it. So I turned and looked, dude. Yeah, it was so loud on the door, I looked. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm like, well, either either fucking someone got in trouble or fucking so-and-so's pissed, and she's like, and they're gonna get yelled at, yeah, and they're putting in a meeting because they don't want anybody in the middle of it, whatever. Yeah, next thing you know, I get a fucking Teams message. Yeah, Sean, I need you in the office. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, be you there in a minute. Yeah, and I seen the fucking thing in the meeting, so obviously I knocked. Yeah, she's like, Sean, I go, yeah. She was like, Come in. So I go in and sitting down, and I feel like I'm in a fucking interrogation room, dude. Wow. I'm not, I'm being dead serious. Yeah, they're like, we don't understand the drastic decision and blah blah blah. And dude, and this is what this is what I mean. This is how it relates to yours. Yeah, I don't think they expected the pushback.
SPEAKER_04I think they thought if they put me in a room, right, and they were higher than me, way higher than me, I'd fold and be like, well, just stay where I'm at, and you know, I'll appreciate, get the next one the next time I did race.
SPEAKER_00Right, right. I looked at her, I go, you want to know what? I go, I go, I've been nothing but nice about the whole situation, dude. I've not been rude, I've not had nobody's back. I have been very vocal about having an issue with the pay. Yeah, it's not a secret, right, dude. Yeah, I go, I go, so here's the thing. I go again. I said, I only can I only can say it clear one more time. I don't understand what the issue is with a dollar fifty. I don't understand. Yeah, I go, I understand your plan, the policy. We can't give you the raise deal or whatever. And I get it. I go, so what do you what do you what do you think my next option was then? Right. I needed, I need the more, I need more money. Right. My what's my only option? I've been here for enough time to transfer out of the position. Right. You put me in a bad situation where I have no choice but to post out, but I go, you should nobody should have an issue with giving me the dollar fifty. I go, because you want to know what? I go, for the last three months, Gina and her and fucking her over there have been blowing smoke up my ass for fucking three months about how I'm irreplaceable and they don't know what they would do, do in that department without a lot of people. Yeah, do all that, but then you can't give me a dollar fifty. Right. Right? And then I looked at her and I go, I go, you know what confuses me though? Yeah, I go, I go, and I said to the lady, I go, this is the question of the day, dude. And Janae kind of rolled her eyes. She was like, Sean, you probably shouldn't be talking to her like that. This director, yeah, right. She kind of gave me a side idea, like, don't go too far. And you're just like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I didn't care. This is a hill that I will die on. This is literally what I said, dude. And she did not do when I mean I've never seen someone in that position of power really almost not have and not know what to say.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I go, I go, this is where I'm confused. I go, you don't want to give me the dollar fifty.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00But every single position that I post it out for pays more than the $21 an hour. Right. Now, if I was to get into said positions, you'd end up paying more. You'd have to pay me more than giving me the 21. So I don't understand the problem. Right. I go, because temporary housing starts at 21 and ends at 26.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00I go, the fucking family pier in fucking Utica starts at 18, ends at 23. With my experience, I'm probably getting the 23. Right. You guys are gonna spend more on me if I move. Right. So I don't understand why you can't give me the dollar fifty. And again, she went back to the fucking this is the policy deal. Right. So she didn't have a you could tell she was like, I don't know what to fucking do now. Because they tried to punk me back into the position almost. Right. She knew what to do. So she looks at fucking, she looks at the fucking other lady and she goes, Well, I don't know what to do. And the other the second lady goes, Well, you're looking at me, but I don't know what to do either.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Because like, no, because they're not used to people fucking pushing back. So this, so that they were like, Well, let us discuss, see what we can figure out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you go back and do what you gotta do. We're not mad. Yeah, you were fucking pissed. I can tell by looking at you. You're mad as fuck. You can tell by looking at you. You were mad as fuck. You're fuming mad. Yeah, you can tell. Because she was almost stuttered, dude. Like when I was like, You're gonna pay me more if I go to a different department. I don't understand. Right. Like, I'm confused here.
SPEAKER_05They probably never been, they probably never been called out.
SPEAKER_00So ever. So I went ahead and was like, Why do I I said just to protect myself here? Yeah, I go, I don't need these people finding a reason to fire me.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00Like it just I can't. I gotta protect myself.
SPEAKER_05So that that's another thing, too, is like I don't know if I'm being like closely monitored.
SPEAKER_00That's what I'm trying to because they're trying to get rid of me. Because that's but that's what I was getting to with mine. Yeah, so I was like, you want to know what? I think I might have stepped on some toes today, dude. And they might be looking for a reason to shit can my ass. I came in late, write you up. Right. Leave a little early, write you up. Yeah, take too long for lunch, write you up. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna get nitpicked to death, dude. I'm gonna protect myself. No, that's how I feel too being nitpicked. So I'm so I'm and and I know what being nitpicked means in customer service. Yeah, you know what it means. You're about to get fired. Yeah, you're on you're on the cusp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is what I did to protect myself. And when I mean I had that, dude, within two days, yeah, I had that whole building turned upside down, bro. Nobody knew what to fucking do, dude. Yeah, they panicked. Everyone panicked because I called. I'm really, I'm really cool with the fucking the second biggest person in the whole company. Yeah, this lady Jenny. Yeah, she's like up there, up there, up there. Like, you got the CEO and then her. Yeah, like she's the second biggest person in the whole entire company, right? Yeah, well, she wobbles me to death. Yeah, because I crack jokes about dead people and send them away, right? She's like, I well that's the thing.
SPEAKER_05This thing is like, you know, they they tell you bring bring your bring yourself to work, your full self, your whole personality, bring it to work with you. But then I do, and it's a fucking problem.
SPEAKER_00But, anyways, yeah, me so I had wind up messaging her on Teams, and I go, You know, I'm not one to bring right these quote unquote small issues that I'm having here in her house to you because it's not really has nothing to do with you. You know what I'm saying? I go, but someone's got to intervene here, yeah, because I have a funny feeling, dude, there's gonna be a problem, yeah. And she like immediately messaged me. She was like, problem with what? I said, I said, I'm I said, I'm having an issue up here about trying to get more money for my position because I feel like I earned it and I deserve it, right? Yeah, and she goes, Well, have you gotten a raise? And I go, Yeah. She was like, Well, they can't give you more. So she even being up there already now I'm there, right?
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00I go, so I go now, I go, Well, and I'm not gonna say their names because they one of them might listen once in a while. So fucking the director of the site and the second in command of the Hercomber office, dude, uh, like fucking, I let them know. I was like, I have a funny feeling. I said they were very, very, very upset. Yeah, I didn't use any foul language. I go, they're not, they're not happy with me right now, yeah, because we had had had a conversation about pay, and I had asked to transfer out of the position if you couldn't give me $21 an hour. Yeah, I go, now they're upset because I want to transfer out. She was like, Sean, she was like, I she was like, I'm busy tomorrow. She was like, but I'm gonna carve out an hour. It was a Friday at that too. I'm gonna carve out an hour, 11 to 12. She goes, give me your personal phone number, get out of the office when I call. We need to talk. I said, All right. So she called the very next day, she calls and she goes, first thing she goes, she goes, she goes, Sean, tell me what you want to do. Yeah, and I go, what do you mean? Like job wise, yeah. But I didn't, that's why I said that's why I was like, I was like, tell I don't know what you mean.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00She was like, tell me what you want to do. And I was like, well, what do you mean? She was like, Sean, it's like this is the question. What do you want to do? Yeah, where do you want to work? Yeah, like what do you what do you want to do with the company right now?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Within within reason. What do you want to do? Right, right, right, right. Right. And I go, I go, you want to know what? I go, I like who I work with. I'm comfortable up here. Yeah, it's a little bit inconvenient in the weather to come up here, whatever. I go, but I like everyone in the building. I really get along with everyone in the building. I said, I'd like to do like the treatment apartment deal or whatever, right? Yeah, and she goes, All right. And then she started talking about, we started talking about other stuff. She's like, Listen, there's crisis here that pays more, but it's in Utica, but you have to be on call. Right. She was like going through stuff. She said, You tell me what you want to do. And I was like, What do you? I said, Hold on. Before the conversation I messed up. Yeah, do I have like carte blanche? Yeah, you can just what I mean. Yeah, I've almost pretty much said that. I said, So what are you saying? Like, and he thinks there's choice now. I I yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is the way she answered it, though. Yeah, because I think she had to answer it in a way, yeah, where it didn't come off as like, yeah, Sean, I'll let you pretty much do whatever the fuck you want to do. Right. Like she had to answer a certain way. I said the same thing. I said, So what are you trying to say? Yeah, like if I say I want to go to Utica and I want to be a substance abuse peer, like, we'll go ahead and roll with that. She goes, In a nutshell.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So she couldn't be like, Yeah, whatever you want to do, I'll push in. Right. I can make you a psychologist. Yeah, yeah, like what it means. Yeah, yeah, I can be on like the board of directors. So here's the thing. Yeah, okay. So she goes, Do you have an associate's degree? Yeah, I don't do right, I don't have that. I have a year of college on associates a year. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04I think you need two for that.
SPEAKER_00And I literally said, Yeah, so you need two years, right? I go, I go, no. She goes, Well, she goes, Well, this is a deal. She goes, and mind you, this is a higher up lady. She goes, but now you do.
SPEAKER_05Oh shit.
SPEAKER_00I go, what do you mean? She was like, Don't worry about it. Now you do. Wow. I said, All right, cool. So she hangs up, not even 30, Joshua, not even 30 minutes later. The whole building, dude. You seen it like real time, bro. Yeah. Motherfuckers starting to move around like into the beehive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00Managed over there. Everyone just started piling into fucking the director lady's office. Yeah. Everyone just yeah. Everyone at management. I'm talking about from Charlie Rose to Gina to the fucking the second in command lady to the fucking director. They were all management was in her office, dude, with the door shut. That bitch was locked, bro. The door was locked because I was a piece of shit. And I touched the door handle when I went by because I have to go up the hallway for lunch. So I went and turned it quick. Like, does it want to push handle? Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't be able to tell. Yeah. I went like that. And that shit didn't go down. That bitch was locked, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. So I go to lunch, I come back. I come back, get back on my computer, I fucking go grab a set of keys. I had a client to go see.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And they were like, oh no, no, we're gonna send Hannah out. Yeah, you gotta stay here. And I'm fucking again. I'm like, I'm gonna get fucking fired.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, you're right. You get that panic.
SPEAKER_00They had the council fucking meeting. Yeah, to find a way to find a way to terminate my ass. Little it's what I thought. I'm not even lying, dude. I'm like, get in the fucking fire me, dude. Like, so they're like, no, no, no, we're gonna send Hannah out, dude. Like, fucking here, stay. We gotta, we we we have a lot to talk about. Yeah, I go, all right. So fucking next thing you know, I get pulled into the fucking director's office with everybody, dude. Yeah, oh shit, all of them. Charlie Rose was there, Gina was there, Seth McMahon was there. Like stage flight or something. Well, I didn't, I sat down because I'm cool and I talked to him all day. True, yeah. So it's kind of it was uncomfortable. Yeah, it wasn't super uncomfortable, you know what I mean? Yeah, so all of a sudden, dude, all the pressure was off with one sentence. Yeah, we decided to approve your transfer to um to treatment apartments, but here's the problem we have to negotiate a pay rate, and it has to be approved through HR. I said, Listen, I go, it starts at 21. That's all I asked for. Right. I go, so if you guys want to start me at the bottom, yeah, I don't care. Yeah, like I'll gradly take the 21. That's all I wanted. Right from another job in the other spot in the first place. Yeah, so I'm cool with that, right? Yeah, they were like, Well, we will know. She was like, No, we will negotiate a pay rate.
SPEAKER_06Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00You have done nothing but fucking been positive here. Yeah, you've worked with so many people helped with so many people, dude. Like, we're gonna try to get you a little bit more. Yeah, I said, All right. So about two weeks, I called into fucking the second, the lady in second command lady's office, and she goes, We got you 23. Is that okay? Like, dude, but now they're asking.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but they ended up paying you more than you initially wanted, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Way more, dude. Right, like four four fifty more. Yeah, dude. When you could have just given me the twenty, right? Right. And the whole thing could have been avoided. But what I think, but I think is what's weird is that the way it was worded, yeah. We got you 23. Is that okay? Like, I got asked right if that amount was alright. Like, what if I would have said no? Right. You'd have ran me up to you said to get 25. Yeah, like, dude, but right again, because that Jenny lady probably couldn't was like, what the fuck, dude?
SPEAKER_05I and here's the thing is like, you know, you can't constantly praise me and say, Oh man, you know, I mean, there's certain sections of my job that I'm not the best at, you know, there's always room for improvement in any fucking job. Yeah, perfect, dude. I'm very I'm very, very good at my job, though. But numbers-wise, which is what my industry is based on, is numbers. My numbers are fucking stellar. Well, it's just I mean so it's like if you're trying to get rid of me, it's that's the only thing I can think of. Is like if you're monitoring my shit like that.
SPEAKER_00You're you're I'm another microscope deal.
SPEAKER_05And I don't like I can't. I'm sorry, I I refuse to fucking work that I don't work that way either.
SPEAKER_00I just won't. As soon as I'll be a micromanage, I'm out, dude.
SPEAKER_05I'll I'll stick it out until I get my license, and then you know, I hate to I hate to fucking resign two jobs in a row, but I'm not working like that, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I get it. But I mean, almost similar to me though, like the way I look at it, like, bro, I had clients that I got when I first got my provisional license to do this job. Yeah, then I had clients that wanted nothing to do with me. Merlos told me I was useless. I wasn't gonna be able to, I wasn't gonna be able to do what fucking the other fucking family peer was able to do for them, blah blah blah. And fucking literally I was been mocked and laughed at for two months, dude, by my bosses and everything, thinking we knew we should have hired up. Dude, I literally overheard, I think it was right around Thanksgiving time, where fucking Gina and my fucking other the other boss is second in command. Lady were in the office fucking regretting hiring me, talking about we knew we should have hired a fucking female because the clients didn't want to deal with me. So I was I thought I was treading water right then. Yeah, right. But I didn't go above and beyond, I just started continued to pester these people. No, and yo, that give me a chance, let me fucking work it out for you. And did that shit.
SPEAKER_05I think for me, like really just overall, when it comes to keep to keeping a job, half of it is just showing up. Because there's a bunch of people who just won't fucking show up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, pull up, dude. Yeah, just show up.
SPEAKER_05Just go to work. So you gotta do is go to work. And like, I'm not gonna say that I hate what I do, but like I said, I feel like it robs me of my creativity when I'm out of work. Yeah, I I can't get to where I want to go doing this anymore.
SPEAKER_00I get that.
SPEAKER_05You know what I mean? Like it's draining, bro. But I think I want I got I want to fire it. It it it correlates with the money aspect because if I'm living a corporate hell, the fucking monetary gain isn't even there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's not they didn't even worth the fucking financial benefit of it. Yeah, so I think I think my thing is that I was doubted.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and nah, yo, that's that's like a career fucking like and it literally it literally went It's like you persevered because it went it went to a point to where they can't don't even they can't even come up with a negative thing, right?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, you oh they they can I'll have a really long day toward the end of the week, yeah, and I will legit go in the day room, bro, and shut the lights off and take a nap.
SPEAKER_03Oh I was gonna ask Oh no, I'll ask you when we're off.
SPEAKER_00But anyways, I'll go in. I'm not even lying, bro. I deadass seriously will. If I've dealt with clients all day, dude, and I fucking took my lunch, I will deadass take my lunch in the day room, bro, and I will follow some of the motherfucking recliner. I absolutely will do that. I will not dispute it, I will not fight. They probably have photos, dude. Don't even care. Yeah, I'll legit do it, dude. But here's the thing that's the only thing. Because I literally had clients, bro, of mine that I started off with that didn't even know me and hated my fucking guts, dude. How about I'm not gonna be able to help? Why can't we understand why the other other lady doesn't work here anymore? Is there any and can we Can I deal with someone else? Did she move to another company? I'll go with them. Yeah, like that's the type of shit I dealt with.
SPEAKER_05And one thing I noticed too is like my manager. Now they all love me, dude. I I I this is another reason I think that they're really monitoring me, is because I'm not gonna say I'm rude on calls, but I'm very blunt. I'm not gonna I don't sugarcoat shit. I don't fuck sit here and fucking talking riddles and shit. No, I tell you how it is, you know what I mean? Yeah, you if you went to an out of network fucking doctor, you went to an out of network doctor. Yeah, I'm there's nothing that I can do to change it. That's what you did. I mean, now you know for the future, yeah, you know, but like so I like the last two meetings that we've had, she's like, I'm just gonna say this bluntly, right? And I think that she does that because on my call, she could tell that I say shit bluntly. Yeah, she wants to straight to the point, deal. Yeah, right. But it's like out of her personality, though. She's not she's not, she's like the sweetest, most fucking like positive fucking woman ever, like to the point to where it's like you can tell she's faking her positivity, yeah. Like no one's that happy, like you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, but you gotta understand, like with me, with me fucking transferring to the other department, because we're gonna gotta end soon, yeah. But me fucking transferring to the other department, bro. Like the two girls that are in my department now are legit sad as fuck, and I'm leaving. Yeah, so like we don't understand, we don't we don't understand why they would just give me the fucking money, it's bullshit. We want to keep you here.
SPEAKER_05I sent that picture of you of me and Jasmine. And the reason that I took that, I walked her out because I'm like, yo, this might be the last time I see you. Like, dead ass, bro. I might not be here for the next in office day, whether it's my decision or the companies, because next Monday they could let me go at the end of that meeting. I do not know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no shit.
SPEAKER_05I don't know.
SPEAKER_00No, you know, you're right. Because a lot of times, when it's corporate like that, sometimes they'd rather cut their losses and deal with someone might be a headache down the road. If they consider you're gonna continue to stir the pot, they'd rather let you go. But you that's how it would be.
SPEAKER_05I'm not even trying to stir a pot, it's just like I want answers. Like, I want to know like how this was brought up. And these are all things that I deserve answers to.
SPEAKER_00No, you have a right to know, you're right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05So, was it someone something someone overheard? Was it something that the AI system picked up on that were?
SPEAKER_00First things first, if someone if someone told, they can tell them.
SPEAKER_05Well, no, right, but I I can kind of get down to the bottom of that if I word it correctly. It'd be like, was this something that was reported, or was it something that was flagged in the system? And then, like I said, I can I can I can navigate from there because there's no way the guy called back with our wait times and got through to someone who's supposed to be like I want to file a complaint against Joshua. He's talking lemon head.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's no way, not that fast. No, no, but I'm just saying, I mean, fucking the girls are fucking sad, Hannah's all bummed, Bailey's just got starting to get to know me, and I sent her I she went on a lot of calls, um, client things with me to have kids, yeah. You know, to get her get her set up. Yeah, like I think I did the best I could with her being new, yeah. That I set her up with a lot of good kids, dude. Yeah, because she's a youth peer. I got her set up with a lot of good parents that are willing to put them in the program and have her be the one-on-one mentor because Hannah's only part-time. Yeah, like and I even said to Gina, I said, I'm gonna try to leave this department in better hands than I came into it.
SPEAKER_06Right, which is how she you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_05I go, so I've got the company treated you correctly. That's how that's how your answer should be.
SPEAKER_00But it's it the thing is, dude, is like there's a bit of guilt. Oh, yeah, of course. It's one of those, like it you wanna know what's but this ain't it ain't company guilt.
SPEAKER_05No, it's it's not like I'm ditching my clients' guilt. It's it's kind of like how I told you at Home Depot, they hire really well, so that like when you leave, you feel like that you're like committing a sin, like you're committing treason against your family or some shit, dude. Because you get to know these people and you work with them, and and they like they hire that's one thing that at least when I was there, it might be different now, but they hire good people, yeah. People that you enjoy to be around and have conversations with, and fuck and you feel bad leaving, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, mine's a little different. Mine's more of my uh I've got clients and stuff. I've gotten really close with a lot of them, dude. Like not like as friends, right? No, but we've been how about this is the best way to word it. We've been through a lot together, right? Yep, we've been through court hearings and superintendent meetings and probation appointments. So you like attend child's I they I have to. Wow, that's crazy. No, I don't have to, I do to be support and to help them with the appropriate documentation.
SPEAKER_05Well, and if they have social anxiety, a little bit of confidence to have someone standing next to you that's has your back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know what I mean? So I mean, we've a lot of a lot of me and my clients, we've been through a lot of shit, like a lot of stuff together, and then and that's that's the part I feel bad about. Yeah, I do not feel bad about ditching my boss, right? I feel a little bit bad about fucking leaving the girls because I do like them. Yeah, me and Hannah have gotten close since we've started I started working there. We've been together since fucking December, every single day. Yeah, it's been me and her and fucking Gina from the fucking beginning. She came back from maternity leave, and it's really been us three until they hired the Bailey girl, right? Yeah, so like it's been us three, so it's gonna be fucking a little different. Yeah, um, but they fucking turned around and asked, dude, put it this way, they don't want me to leave. Hannah doesn't want me to leave so bad. She literally went to Charlie Rose and asked, can you block it? No, no, she no, she asked if I can. She don't care about me. Obviously, she would never stop me from making more money. Right. She's like, but is there any way like he can his desk can stay over here? And she said, No. Really? That's the fucking that's the fucking that's the fucking different department family peer youth peer section. Right. Yeah, I gotta go into their section.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00So she was like, damn, she was like, I wouldn't have been so mad if we could stay here. Right. Right. You know what I mean? But so yeah, I think I think that's that that's that's where I'm at with it. Um, it's gonna be a lot different because I'm gonna be a lot of drunk drug addicts and shit, dude.
SPEAKER_05But what's what's different about our situation is like you got what you wanted at the end of the day. I'm probably not gonna get even what I'm I'm not gonna get a clear answer. I'm not gonna get it's something I'm gonna have to figure out on my own from the corporate answer that she gives me. Yeah, you're gonna have to decipher it like the Da Vinci code. Yeah, like I'm dealing with the Riddler and shit, dude. Like, what the fuck, man?
SPEAKER_00When the first time you ever seen inside of a fucking pyramid, what do these hieroglyphics mean? Yeah, it's gonna be one of those, you know.
SPEAKER_05So it's like, I don't even know what it would look like if I walked out of that getting what I wanted. Because, like, there I'm not asking for money, I'm I just want like I said, my professional has never been called into question ever, bro.
SPEAKER_00My situation is simple, dude, and it sounds fucked up. I'll tell the story quick so we can end it, bro. This is literally how I got on the good side of this Jenny lady. You ready? Yeah, this is literally the exact story verbatim because she wind up, she was like, she emailed me three days after it happened because she probably felt like she shouldn't. Yeah, her being that high up, me being so low down, she almost probably was like questioning whether I should fucking even speak to him about what he said. You know what I mean? So we had we deal with like a lot of these treatment houses, right? Yeah, and I guess one of the fucking people I was new there, dude. When I mean new, bro, I don't even think I was at a month. Yeah, um I wouldn't even out of September. I got hired in September.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like she'd I didn't know who this little Jenny lady was, yeah. So fucking she had come in because I guess one of the clients at the fucking houses died. Oh shit, right? Like died in his sleep, he was all old and shit, right? Yeah, and um, so they had to remove the body, so they took everyone out, like all the clients and shit. They had to get out of the house or whatever, right? Yeah, so they get them all out of the house, whatever they bring them down to us. So we they ordered food, yeah, and shit. They put pizza, wings, greens, all kinds of subs, everything.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00So, like again, I didn't know who this chucking Jenny lady was, dude. Never seen her before in my life. You she's a short blonde lady with glasses, yeah, no fucking clue who she was. So I come into my section, my youth peer, family peer section, right? And I have everyone there the director of my site, second in command of my site, Gina, Charlie Rose, Sandy, Hannah, and fucking somebody else, right? And Jenny was in there. And they're like having like a serious conversation, and I fucking I like to crack jokes, dude. Right. Like I mean it's fucked up because she's like, that's what got me in trouble, right? But this is what I turned on the side. She goes, so she's sitting on. I remember her talking to Gina and the other two supervisors. She was like, She's gotta be honest with you. She was like, Yeah, this is not what I do.
SPEAKER_06Uh huh.
SPEAKER_00She's like, I don't even know how to tell these people, like fucking whatever, you know, so and so fucking she said the name, yeah, or whatever, so and so passed away. Yeah, and I'm fucking in my chair, dude. And I rolled around, I turned around, I swung in my chair like Dr. Evil. I swear to God, I swung around, yeah, and I go, I go, I I go, I go, I don't understand why you're making it complicated. Yeah. I was like, relatively simple, but I don't want to say that. I go, I go, I go, you ready? This is what you do. I go, hey, I go, ladies and gentlemen, I need to have your attention. Yeah, um, just figure I'd let you know, so and so has kicked the bucket. Um, I know I'll probably probably never speak to me again. I'm sorry for the bad news. I said, then you give him a fucking curtsy and you leave. Yeah, and she looks at me, dude. And she fucking literally started dying, bro. She let dude that she laughed so fucking hard, bro. And I was like, Oh, I got another one for you. I was like, I was like, look at him and go, he has died. The end. And then just walk out of the door, and she fucking started dying laughing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_00And here's what's messed up. I had a feeling something was wrong.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because when she fucking died laughing, bro, about the like that sarcastic comment about the dude dying, yeah, and everyone else in that fucking fucking room like was staring at me, dude. Yeah, like I got a side eye from Gina, like Sean, you might have just lost your fucking job, bro. Yeah, right. I got that look, like you fucked up, dude. Like, and I fucking she goes in, says what she has to say, and I stayed out of it, bro. Yeah, and I remember fucking the second a command lady turned, dude. She turns, looks at me, she was like, Sean. I go, what's up? She goes, Do you have any fucking idea who that is? I go, no fucking idea. I go, she works at one of the houses, right? I thought she was just a worker at one of the houses, dude. She had a simple badge. Yeah, you know what I mean? She wasn't super dressed up, right? She was like a business super.
SPEAKER_05Nah, so like then she didn't dress for a little bit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dude, she dude, she had jeans and a fucking shirt on, like a gesture on, like a normal person. Yeah. So she goes, You have no fucking any fucking idea who you just said that in front of. I go, I go, I don't know. She works at one manages one of the houses. I don't know, dude. Yeah. She goes, Sean, that's the fucking executive vice president of the fucking company. Do you understand what you just did? She's like, I'm probably gonna have to let you go now. Oh man. And I go, Are you fucking serious, dude? She goes, Guess we'll find out, right? And then fucking not 20 minutes later, Jenny comes back in. She goes, Oh, I'm gonna stay and eat with you guys, and then I'm gonna leave. And again, I was like, Well, I already stuck my foot in my mouth. Yeah, I may as well fucking just talk more shit now. Right. You know what I mean? So I just figured being me. Oh, that's so that's now go ahead.
SPEAKER_05Because I I'm gonna I I kind of did like a ever since when after the coaching, yeah, I had I started adding my calls differently. I asked because yo, these calls are mine and recorded. Yeah, so I've begun asking the clients was everything on this call professional to your satisfaction?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Start asking that, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Do you think I'm crossing the line by asking that?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, you should because it protects you on the back end.
SPEAKER_05That's what it's what I'm trying to do.
SPEAKER_00It's because now they're on they're on record saying that this call was professional. Yeah, yeah. They yeah, they they have to listen to the whole call to see, and they'll you'll hear it at the end. Right. So I'll finish mine so we can end it because we're running long now. Um, but so they turned around, and I guess the fucking director of the site and the second of commanding site went and had Jenny go in their office and like almost like went out of their way to be like, if any of my employees like said anything inappropriate, like we apologize, but we don't mean it. She was like, Oh, you're talking about that Sean guy, yeah, and they go, Yeah, and they go, She was like, Do you have any idea? She was like, He fucking made my day.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, about say she probably needed that.
SPEAKER_00She was like, You have any idea how much I needed somebody to lighten the mood of that situation at that time. She was like, he was like a blessing that came in the office. Like, I absolutely needed it. And then ever since then, dude, she went up because I didn't believe it when fucking the two said it to me. She might have like looked at her. But I couldn't pester. I'm like, exactly. Right, yeah, exactly. I didn't say it, dude. Yeah, so I stayed away from it. So it was probably about two days later, it was like a Thursday afternoon. Yeah, and I came in from my lunch and I had an email and I looked and said her name, yeah, and I clicked on it. It was not long, long enough. She was like, Oh, Sean, she was like, you know, I really, I really questioned whether I wanted to send this email, you know what I mean, to you. She was like, but I I have to be honest, she was like, You changed my whole entire day and lightened my mood when you cracked it, you know, when you when you when you said humor about the fucking sit the situation that happened at I can't say the name of the house house. She goes, she goes, That was you don't understand. I can't thank you enough and how helpful that is that actually there's somebody that's real enough to fucking say what they want to say and be honest and be upfront. And she goes, anything you ever need from me, do never hesitate to ask.
SPEAKER_05We've been cool ever since you know it's and you know that's been cool ever since.
SPEAKER_00We'll we'll end it right here. She checks on me and shit and everything.
SPEAKER_05But it's like the reason that my surveys and my customer satisfaction is so good is because I am personable and we do have a conversation and I do sprinkle jokes throughout and fuck and shit like that. You're supposed to, really. And they don't want your brain, they're what you know about. Like, but that's that's that's one thing I'm gonna ask is like, yo, it because part of it could be this. Maybe they're they're we we all know they're training AI to take calls, yeah. Right, we all know this, right? There's probably not gonna be a fucking job for me in a couple of years, regardless, yeah, in this in this role, yeah, right. So is it that maybe because I'm so personable that the AI can't fucking train from me?
SPEAKER_00No, they can't use you at all.
SPEAKER_05So and I'm gonna ask straight up do you want to if you want me to be more robotic, that's not happening.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not fucking doing I'm not, bro. I'm not taking a call like hello, that's just Joshua. Yeah, but if that's the case, then they should just give you a fucking full-on script. Yeah, you know, then script me then. Yeah, we just script me, yeah. Alorka scripted me, yeah.
SPEAKER_05No, and then and then once I nailed on the script, they gave me freedom to kind of yeah, like make it my own.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know what I mean? Like, okay, you have to ask this question, we don't have to ask it in this way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_05You know, you could be like, so you know, instead of being like, and what state are you located? I could be like, So, where are you where are you calling from today? Yeah, or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I can go off script, but stay on topic.
SPEAKER_00Stay on topic, yeah, I get it, yeah. But but that was fun, dude. Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_05All right, guys. We'll see you next week. Peace out. Yeah, Clint was actually your subplot in this subplot. Did you did you get your curtain done? Yes, woo! All right, it's actually up, dude.
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