Wally Gator

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

I got poppy shit for days.

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Welcome everybody to a brand new, very special episode of Nearly Insane. It's a Father's Day edition. So we decided to do a uh dedication episode, I guess you could say, to my grandfather, Sean's father.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Who we lost 19 years ago, what, two days ago? Yep.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Yeah, nineteen years ago on the 15th. Oh, so six days ago. Yeah.

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But it was Father's Day in tw 2007. It was Father's Day weekend.

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Oh it was a Friday.

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Yeah, okay.

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Father's Day was at Sunday because everyone already had the Christmas uh the Father's Day gifts and shit for him when he went to bed. Which which made things like ten times worse, dude.

SPEAKER_05 0:36

Yeah.

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Yeah. But you know, I mean, I I'll be honest with you, dude.

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Like we're drinking some of his favorite wild turkey 101 over here.

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He got fucking, he got he got his wish, dude. I mean, he said he didn't want his fucking he didn't want his fucking son reading there when he was fucking dying or on his deathbed.

SPEAKER_05 0:52

Now he pulled up that free pass.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Yep, and he was mad. No.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

They waited mad long, bro. They already waited like an hour. Like, what more do you expect out of these fucking people? Yeah, no, yeah, he pulled up in the parking lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Well, that's not even it, dude. I think that day, I think forever, like, there'll always be apartments that's gonna piss me off.

SPEAKER_05 1:14

It was just so weird because like that day we see I'm not saying he was like in the best shape ever, but that morning he seemed fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Like, all things considered. Well, I mean, I think that's usually what happens.

SPEAKER_05 1:22

I think it is too.

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Like, you're in the great spanage, you kind of you feel like you're in good health, and bang, you're gone.

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You kind of like revert back to the biggest.

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Like, I don't know. That day was that was kind of frustrating. First off, like I was like the last one to be told anything. Yeah, because my mom was like, which fucking me, which number one made fucking really agitated me. And then, like, then you find out like after the fact, like the whole fucking time, that fucking Graham was trying to get back to the back.

SPEAKER_05 1:47

Everybody was there the whole time, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Yeah, everyone was trying to grim the whole time, dude behind everyone's back was trying to reach fucking read to get him up there, knowing that Poppy didn't even want him around. So, like that whole fucking day, dude was fucked up, bro. Yeah, I mean I didn't believe in much like supernatural, like weird shit, but yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I think the weirdest part about the day of his passing for me was that like he did wait for his daughters to leave.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

Dead ass.

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They did dude, he they didn't even make they we sat there for hours, dude.

SPEAKER_05 2:15

Yeah, they were like they would hit the elevator because they're going down.

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They got to the elevator, we didn't they we couldn't we didn't get him on time, right? Um but I would then know where the stairs were to meet him, right? But like I remember running down the hall because he coded right down, yeah. And I'm like, I mean, I could probably catch him, they just left. Yep, and I still didn't. And by the time I tried to get downstairs, you they were already in the car and over the fast track, yeah.

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But I think it was weird.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

We were there for hours, dude. Yeah, it was all they sit with them, your mom was sitting with them. Everyone was just kind of like there, the comfort cart came, and yeah, everyone knew he was dying to go.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

My mom freaked out when the comfort cart came. She goes, You know what this means, right? And like she was right, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Well, we all say you didn't need to fucking say anything, right? No, I mean leave it with your mom to fucking make it over dramatic. You know what this means, right? No, it means it means let's make him comfortable because he won't want a cookie when he wakes up. What the fuck, dude?

SPEAKER_05 3:01

Like maybe you want a cup of coffee. Yeah, he wants some hot chocolate.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Maybe when he wakes up, he wants a fucking double double chocolate cookie. No, it's like he wants a shot and a fucking beer and a cigarette, dude. What do you want for a chaser? Another double.

SPEAKER_04 3:15

Yeah.

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When he said that shit to me one day, I couldn't help but laugh.

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Yeah.

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He said, We used to go to fucking go to lunch when he works at Chicago Nomadic, they'd go to Pixelys across the street, kitty corner from them.

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Yeah.

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Across the street, and he goes, We go there, fucking, because we wouldn't eat, we drink on our own spread. He goes, and he goes, it would always be fucking um he'd get a fucking double the fucking jack, and they'd go, oh, do you want for a chaser? And he'd go another double of Jack. So like just think just think about it. It it it doesn't seem that long ago, but it really is now if we think about talking, we're talking about fucking probably late 80s, early 90s, right? But you it doesn't seem that long, it's really pretty fucking long ago, dude. 30 over 30 something years ago, you know what I mean? Yeah, so but you sit and think about it and you're like, these motherfuckers poured and melted fucking steel, dude. Yeah. For fucking a living, and you're going back, you're going back on your lunch break bombed, dude. And didn't nobody give a fuck. So like we have a union. It's like nobody gave a fuck, dude. Yeah, like he would say, all kinds of shit he'd go, when you knew when they wanted to fire one of the really good employees, they'd offer them a management job, yeah, and they keep him in that management position for a fucking year because they have to legally, but once you're in management, you're not unionized, right? And then it's then they get rid of you. He goes, So anytime they ever offered him a management job, they he'd decline it and they'd get mad at him.

SPEAKER_05 4:35

Isn't that why he told Graham never take management as turges? Because yeah, I remember that conversation.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

Which I which I always thought was weird because he should have never said that shit to her.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

They weren't union dogs. That's what I mean. Yeah, they weren't it didn't matter. They could have fired her just because you didn't rivet right, right? You know what I mean? You fucked up a dog leash. Get out of here, you know what I mean? Right, yeah, right. They weren't you so I would have thought it was weird. Maybe he was just maybe majority of the places in the area at the time were a union, maybe. Right. And he was just kind of just saying it in a in a generalized term. Yeah, and there probably is places that do that. We'll pay you more money and give you more reason to fuck be like, oh, you suck at your job, get out of here. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, and it's weird because it's fucked up because that is like literally one of the fucking statements he would make when we were all growing up, yeah. Where I would be very, very because like I was very hesitant to take promotions into management because I thought they'd fire me.

SPEAKER_05 5:26

I think you're right, because like in in his in his era, this this place is nothing but manufacturing.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

Dude, Lucas Aerospace, G, yeah, yeah, Lucas Aerospace G buckets.

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It was all unionized shit. No, but special metals, all union, CPE, Bendix, yeah, you know, the one that made like the fucking um they made the fucking uh brake pads and shit. Yeah, they were all unionized shops, right? There was very few that weren't around here. Like it must have been because it was a one-off with hers. Right. But like it's still still that statement always stuck with me. Like, do you start as a minion worker? Yeah, just get your raises and stay out of people's way. And I think I was raised that way because I would work at places for a while and I'd get offered management and I'd be like, move it to the move on to the next candidate, bro. They'd be like, Why? I'm like, I'm just not interested in it. And I think it was always because you'd always say it. That's the reason for them to get rid of you. You work somewhere for five, six years, and they want to put you into magic to put you into management, yeah, because what it is is because you maxed out as an employee pay wise. Yeah, and they're like, yo, if they want more money, we'll move them up. That's their analogy, but then again, they don't want to pay you more. They'd rather dude, they'd rather they'd rather hide fire you and hire someone at 20. Yeah, so they gotta pay you the 25. Right. They'd rather it's made saving them five bucks, but they do that with 3,000 people how much money they're saving. Yeah, they're saying millions, dude, off that five bucks. Yep. So I treat everything like big business at this point. You have to. I I think I'm gonna because I work for quote-unquote, I don't know how they can fucking say it, quote unquote, a non-per-profit or grant funded company. But like you got executives making hundred, two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars a year that I never understood.

SPEAKER_05 7:00

So I don't understand how that works. I never understood the term non-profit organization because there's always money coming into these fucking organizations, but I guess the idea is they're not taking the profit for themselves, they're lending it out.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

It's going back into the program. Right. So quote unquote. But there's there's no no way you because you don't have somebody come with a Jaguar SEV in a non-for-profit or grant-based fucking funding programs. You don't it just don't work that way. Um, nobody's gonna do that work for free.

SPEAKER_04 7:25

Right.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

I mean, it's just kind of the generalization of it. But I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know, dude. Like, I just fucking sit and I think about like, because it's the Father's Day episode, I think about like, you know, growing up like with my dad and shit. And I do sit and think, I'm like, man, dude, it was just like for at least 17, 18 years, yeah. Like, it was all a party, dude. Yeah, it was just a party all the time, yeah. And it was keggers.

SPEAKER_05 7:48

That's why we do those episodes, party all the time.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Every every every fuck every birthday party turned into a fucking kegger, yeah, fucking cops and fucking people fucking fighting and the neighbors mad because it's too loud, too late, and my dad fucking being a homophobe with the gay neighbors, fucking dude. It was just always a good time, dude. Sperm worms. Well, dude, not even that. You did you know what was odd too? And I'm gonna bring this up because you probably don't but you you definitely don't remember because you weren't fucking even born like when we lived on the Kemble Street deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like we fucking lived next to a fucking gay couple, dude, on Kemble Street. Oh, really? Bob and Vinny.

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And they had you telling me the last time they they had a little bit of it.

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Yeah, because they had gay dude, flamboyant gay, bro. Like, I'm talking about I'm talking about the silk shirts with the fucking chest hair coming up, looking like George Michael and shit. Like, yeah, dude, they were super, super one was a short fat dude, one was a fucking really tall, like literally like boy George looking fucking Italian guy, right? Oh wow. So I'll never forget, dude. There was a couple times. I'm gonna tell you this once I thought this shit was funny as fuck. Yeah, so Poppy was having a fucking party with like a lot of his fucking buddies in the yard on Campbell Street, right? Yeah, Scott was out on his bike, he went to Coach's corner, the bar when he was still drinking 18. Yeah, he went out, he came back fucking smashed drunk, dude, on his bike. Yes, posed into the backyard, starts fucking partying with Poppy and his friends or whatever. And fucking the gay dudes came out the back and started yelling and screaming, quiet the fuck down, you know, we fucking work in the morning, blah blah blah, motherfucker this, motherfucker that, right? So, dude, I remember Poppy turned his head, he looked at fucking Scott and he goes, Go piss on his car. What? Yeah, so dude, Scott hops the fucking fence, dude. Dude, he got arrested. He'll never say yeah, he did it. It was funny. He's fucking throw stairs. Me and Kevin Dirty were in the backyard with happening, dude. He looked at fucking Scott, he goes, he goes, he goes, fuck them fucking cum guzzling faggots. He goes, go piss on their fucking car, right? He goes, All right, and he fucking hopped the fucking chain link fence, dude, because they parked in the backyard. Who's got yeah? 18, 19, right before he went in the marine car, dude. Right before he went in, and um hopped the fence, dude, jumps on the fucking roof of the car, dude. Yeah, peeing all over the fucking windshield and on the hood, right? Oh my god, then jumps down, dude, opens the fucking gas tank, bro. Oh no, puts his fucking dick in the gas hole, dude.

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Oh my god. Oh my god.

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You little motherfucker! And then Vinny dude starts chasing him. Yeah, and yo, I remember Poppy telling fucking Scott, don't run like a bitch, stand your ground, right? Yeah, because he's going to so Scott, don't jump the fucking fence, it'll be a bitch. Yeah, they're gonna come after you beat him up, even if you're in the own yard or whatever, right? Yeah, Vinny gets about fucking probably ten, six feet for fucking Scott, and all of a sudden you hear Poppy go, you put one fucking hand on my fucking son. Yes, and he goes, I will fucking rip your cock off and shove it down your fucking faggot fucking boyfriend's fucking throat and he'll fucking enjoy it. And that Vinny dude stopped, he goes, Wally, I'm sick of your shit. He goes, he goes, Vinny, go swallow something. Get the fuck in your house. Scott hopped the fence, they laughed, and then all of a sudden, dude, cop car pulls up the foot of the driveway, all the way in front, right? Yeah, and the lights are on. And I always I'll never forget this dude because I always wondered why it went down the way it went down when the cops came. They would always pull about front and they'd leave like the like the front of the car would be in the front of the driveway. Yeah, where you could see him if you looked down the driveway, yeah, and the lights would be on. And the dude wouldn't the first officer would not get out of the car. They would wait for a second one because Poppy was known to hitting them, dude. Oh, really? Yeah, he was known to beating them up and his friends like breaking their shit and everyone getting arrested. They would always wait for a second cop. So I remember the fucking first cop pulled up and he got out of the car, but he didn't come up the drive. He got out of the car and he was kind of like standing, like on the side wherever we could see him, like over his hood. And he didn't have his fucking hat on. It was a fucking really super white, bald-headed, shiny ball-headed dude. And he goes, he goes, he goes, Mr. Deerie, he goes, You done with your shit. He goes, Oh, just getting your fucking cartoon lights up and get the fuck out of here. There's no fucking, I ain't listening to your fucking shit.

SPEAKER_05 11:52

Right? He goes, he goes, Imagine talking to a cop like that today.

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He goes, he goes, he goes, Well, we'll be we'll we'll be back there to talk to you shortly. He goes, Oh yeah, he goes, get your fucking boys and blue buddies, you're gonna need them all. And I'm like, oh Jesus fucking Christ. And then I knew it was gonna get bad. That's when it would get bad. This is what Poppy would tell anybody that was younger in the yard. He'd say, kids in the house, Jude in the house. And then we did kids and fucking Graham would go in the house, and the next thing you know, you'd hear all kinds of shit. People fucking throwing shit, screaming, and fucking blah blah blah blah. And it would be funny because it'd be like a rumble in the fucking jungle.

SPEAKER_05 12:27

Yeah, rumble in the jungle.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

And then nobody'd get arrested. Really? And then they would be like, now you know to quiet it the fuck down. He'd be like, You got it, man. And you'd turn it down and we'd fucking sit in the yard, and the music would go down, but like the like voices and uh party would continue. Right. The fire would keep going and they'd yell and scream in the yard, but the music would come down and they wouldn't come back. But a lot of times they wouldn't even arrest them, dude. They'd like get into a brawl with the cops, dude, and they'd get in their cars and leave. And it was fucked up because you know who lived four doors down from us, bro, on Kemble Street? Mayor Lapola. Really? Four doors down, dude. And the guy who fucking ran against him was his neighbor, David Ash. I'll never forget David Ash.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

Yeah, yeah, dude. He must have like personal beef and made him want to run against him.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

And then fucking Poppy always hated fucking Mayor Lapola. Yeah. And you can even ask fucking Scott. He was a teacher of his at Kemble School. Yeah. And he ended up he ended up living on Churchill, right? Yeah, well, or near, no, it was Welch. Oh, Welch, there you go. Anyways, fucking Lapola, dude. Poppy and Graham hated that guy before he became mayor.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

Yeah.

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Because he was a teacher for fucking Uncle Scott and your mom.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

Yeah.

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And when he would get mad, when he dude, when he would get mad at his students, bro, he'd pick his nose and flick his boogers at him, dude. He would pick his nose and flick flick his boogers at him, dude. That shit would be mad. I was like, what the fuck, bro? And another thing, too, I think was.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

There was some teacher that like he took it out, but he he knew he it was like your first day in his class, but he knew because you were related to fucking like Reed and Jill's.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

No, I was Jill. Yeah. Mr. Copkins. Yeah. My fucking science teacher. Yeah. Yeah, he chased him around fucking school. He chased him around chairs and did him in the kid. He was fucking ass. He chased him into the fucking into the fucking student the student lounge. No, he was gonna beat him up. Because no, because you want to know what he fucking failed me, dude. And about the about the percentage. Half a point. Yeah. But then when what happened was grandma and Poppy were made a big deal about it. They went to the school district and they went in all my grades for that class. And at the time, Edju was a principal in Boonville. Right. And he had him come down and break down my fucking GPA for the class, whether I've passed or failed it, because they thought Nicky failed me because fucking name like Jill. Yeah, right. Right? Because that was the first thing as soon as he said, he goes, Your sister, Jill. I go, Yeah, he goes, Good, get out of my fucking class. Like, it's the first date, he's good, get the fuck out.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

Right.

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So I'm like, all right, well, I said, no, I'm not leaving, dude. Oh, you are gonna be like your sister then. I'm like, yeah, I'm not leaving the class, dude. I didn't do anything. I said, I'm prepared fucking for a class. I gotta sign the class before I'm in here. Yeah, whatever. So, anyways, get to the end of the year to defensive by half a point. Graham and Poppy get my fucking grades for the whole year, dude. Yeah, and as you did the fucking did the math, yeah, bro. I didn't even feel like a C I didn't fail by I didn't fail by a half a point, bro. I had a fucking 78 average, dude. He gave me a 64.5, dude. Purposely to get me in summer school. Yeah, and even though they fought it and had the numbers, they still fucking said I failed. And I had to do summer school later.

SPEAKER_05 15:18

But yeah, my my funniest poppy story is probably the fucking hot dogs. Because when I was younger, I would I would switch between fucking boiled to fried boiled and fried. And he didn't know I switched from fucking like boiled to fried.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

I think it was the opposite, but yeah. Oh yeah, no, you're right, yeah. You have a fried to boiled because you liked him you liked him at school that way or something.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

Right. So he brings me out a plate. He's got him on buns and shit, catch up on or whatever. And I just look at him and he's like, What's wrong? Not sauteed to your delight, your highness. And I'm like, yo, he was like 11, like I don't know how to respond to this shit. I just looked at him, right? I know how to fucking react to that, dude.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

It's funny, it's funny when you say shit like that because like Clinton brings poppy up, right? Yeah, and I fucking looked at him one day and I know he doesn't believe me. Yeah, but I told him, I was like, listen, I was like, the shit you do to me and your mom, I fucking dare you even have the bubble thought of that in his fucking house when me and your mother were around. Yeah, he would have fucking hit you, dude. Yeah, I go, and even if me and your mom got mad, he probably would hit me or your mother. Yeah. Because you want to know, I said Kirsten pulled that shit, he whooped her ass and drugged her in the corner by her hair.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

When he she when she fucking was just about to hit fucking Jessica in front of him.

SPEAKER_04 16:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

He grabbed her right by the hair, whooped her ass, dude, and put her in the fucking corner. Yeah. And Jessica was fucking dumbfounded, shocked that he did it. And I looked at her and I remember being at the kitchen when I looked her dead in the face, I go, Don't you say a word?

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Yeah. Yeah.

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Don't you fucking say anything.

SPEAKER_04 16:47

Yeah.

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Your kids are not. He'll beat you up, dude. Yeah. He's beat fucking women up his whole life, bro. He's fucking just purposely beats a punchments in the face just because, dude. Yeah. And she goes, Really? I go, yeah, just don't fucking say don't say fucking anything. I go, and not to be an asshole, so I'm not trying to stand up for him completely. I go, but bro, that was like ultimately disrespectful to you, dude. Yeah. Like she hit you, spit at you, and like called you names and shit, bro. Yeah. She wasn't even remotely nice. No. But what I think funny is that I think what people some people don't don't don't think. I do, because I've seen it like my own two eyes, type of deal. Is that um when your kids act a certain way when they're younger, yeah, if you don't correct that shit when they're young, they turn out like assholes. Yeah. And look at Kirsten now. Yeah. A complete fucking scumbag. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:37

And every sense of the word. I I told Graham, I go, yo, I go, I felt that way even before what she did, what she did when my mom died. I'm like, yo, I was like, I I I really never considered her family to me. I mean, uh I mean she's fucking manipulative, bro. Dude, here's the thing, and I you've always been my favorite, Josh.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

I don't even talk to you.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

What are you talking about? The thing is, I mean being being the parent is difficult because like you don't want to feel that way.

SPEAKER_04 18:07

Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

And when you're when you're made to or you're put in that fucking horrible situation where like you can't trust your own child around you, or what are they gonna steal, or yeah, what are they gonna say you did, or yeah, uh huh? All right.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Oh, pre-orders.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Yeah, I also heard it's like 300 gigs too. It's gonna take like the whole PlayStation fucking storage.

SPEAKER_05 18:30

So was I was like that too at the time, because you know, like um no one really buys physical fucking games anymore. Right. So I had the uh well for five, I actually did have the uh the actual copy. Is that still no, it's not the last uh release I went to. Last uh physical copy release I went to was read uh redemption to Avery because uh my friend from Australia gave me his digital. I had it early. I was probably I think I honestly was the first person in America to play that game because I had it a day early because Australia's gonna be. So he gave me his, so I'd need the physical copy, so I gave Avery the physical copy. Yeah, yeah. But that's the last one I went to. Before that it was GTA 5, I went with Sheena. And yeah, that game was yo, it was so massive that on my original PS3 I couldn't play it. It kept fucking freezing up the system. It was so big.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:21

I had to get a new I had to get a new PlayStation to play the fucking game, dude.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Let's get back to what we're saying though. Fucking it's it's it's really difficult, dude, because like you don't want your fucking kids to turn out a certain way or to be fucked up or to be thieves or be fuck addicts or be whatever fuck they become. But like it's I fucking will always always have a bitterness to a point about certain shit because how are you gonna hold someone responsible for how a kid turns out when you didn't have active involvement for fucking 10 years? No, yo. Like I do, dude, to to to continually hear because I didn't have my dad. Because I didn't have my dad, because I didn't have my dad, because I didn't have my dad, I didn't have my dad. No, how about it's because you had your mother who was smoking weed with you and getting drunk with you at 14 at home. Yeah, yeah. Like how about how about that, dude? Yeah, that has zero weight to do with I didn't have my dad. No, but you didn't have to do that. And that's to do with you with a shitty scumbag mother, right? So don't fucking play that, dude. I'm because I you remember I lost my temper at Graham's reading or fucking face. I go, I am about fucking sick and tired of this fucking adult. No, this crocodile tears fucking bullshit about how I'm the way I am and I'm this way and I'm depressed and I have mental health issues because I didn't have my daddy bullshit. I go, you want to know what? I go, you did.

SPEAKER_04 20:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

And you fucking lied on fucking Cassandra, and then you went to your fucking mommy. If anybody's fucking accountable, bro, it's you.

SPEAKER_04 20:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

You and your fucked up mother. Yep. I go, so don't fucking put that. I'm done putting that shit on me. Like, love my kids to death, dude. And you want to know what I think? And I I've said this to Graham and she's gotten mad at me.

unknown 21:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

But I don't care. I'll hold, I'll, I'll stay, I'll hold, I'll take this shit to my grave. It'd be my opinion forever.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Kirsten and Isaiah were raised by the same mother at the same time, in the same home, in the same household, and in the same environment, under the same circumstances. Yep. How is one on the right track and the other one a fucking mess? So and and how how is one say, say, oh, I didn't have my fucking daddy, so I'm fucked up, but the other one fucking is like, yo, like I understand. I understand. You you didn't take yourself out of out of my life. My mom did. Yeah. And he's the younger one. Yeah. So how do you have two kids in the same exact identical situation? But no, hold on. But you got you got two kids in the same exact fucking situation, but you got one who forever blames their daddy, yep. And the other one's like, nah, bro, mom was fucked up. Yeah. So how do you but you're the same environment?

SPEAKER_05 21:54

Well, I think with Kirsten, because for for the longest, that excuse. Got her her way with everybody. It definitely got away with Graham. That's what I mean. Oh, with Graham. So she sort of leaned on it.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

And fucked up. As much as I don't like Jill, Jill told her to fucking stave that shit.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Because I'll never forget the day fucking all that shit went down with the fucking whole journal bullshit and got dragged into court shit and restraining order stuff and all that. Dude, I'll never forget Graham was pissed because Jill said it to her. Graham came over with fucking curious. Well, Kirsten came over to Graham's fucking with fucking say. And Jill was there, and Kirsten was must have been there talking shit about fucking what she read and the things that fucking people were doing and whatever. And she and I remember Graham getting mad because Graham called me after it all went down. She said, Jill, Jill was fucking rude as fuck to Kirsten. I go, why? What'd she say? She said, she looked at fucking Kirsten and said, I hope you realize what the fuck you're doing. I remember that. You are not, you are not gonna, you're not gonna see your father for a really long time. Remember that. Because you don't you don't know how he is and what type of person he is. I do. You put you you made the decision and you have to deal with it. Your relationship with your father is never gonna be the same. Nope. Ever. And it wasn't. No.

SPEAKER_05 23:09

Nah, she definitely crossed some lines with that shit, bro. She basically came to your house with intent to fucking steal personality.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

I'll tell you right now. When I find the ass out when that was just Jessica, too.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Yeah. I said, I'll just actually get it.

SPEAKER_05 23:24

I think Jessica sent her on a mission. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Because I guess Kirsten found it like the week before. Right. And it had a lock and key, so she must have found it in the unlock. It had a lock. Yeah, so she's probably looking for money or something. So no, it was a journal. You can tell it was paper. But it had like a little, you know, that's a little mini padlock on it or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

Well, she fucking found a way to get into it. Yeah. She got into it and she read it.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

And she must have locked it back up and put it back where it was because nobody knew she touched it, dude. Right. And she had gone back and she had told Graham what she read. And then she went back and told Jessica what she read. And she would and Jessica was like, she wants it. Yep. Or whatever. So Kirsten came down acting like fucking, oh, Jessica had a dentist appointment. Yeah. And Kirsten didn't want to wait in the she didn't want to wait in the waiting room, drop her in my house, and come back and get her.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Kirsten at the time didn't have a phone, but somehow that day she had a phone. Because I was like, oh, what do you got a phone for? Blah blah blah. And I was supposed to make something eat or whatever. She was over for a couple hours or whatever, so I'm like food or whatever. So going to the kitchen, I'm cooking, and that's what's once she took it and ripped the page out. Yep. And I didn't know she took it, dude, till me and Fucking Cassie were in the living room watching a movie, dude.

SPEAKER_04 24:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

And somebody was pounding on the front door, bro. And I went to the front door and it was the cops, dude.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

And they go, Oh, is Sean Erie and uh then Cassandra here? And I go, I go, I go, yeah, I'm Sean. They're like, oh, where's Cassandra? And I go, hold on. I called her. I go, babe, come here. And they come and they were like, oh, we're we got a call about fucking, you know, you know, threats and abuse to children, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they had a photocopy of the fucking page. Okay. Now maybe I was wrong at the moment.

SPEAKER_04 24:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Because when he showed it to me and Cassie was on the porch with me, dude, and they had a photocopy of the page, and I read it.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

And I'm not gonna lie, bro, I was mad as fuck, dude. Yeah. I turned my fucking head, I go, bro. I go, what the fuck, dude? Yeah. I go, I go, that's fucking ruthless shit to me. Yeah, yeah, it was. She goes, I didn't fucking do anything though.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

Right. I mean, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Because and then I'd rather have her write it. And then we had argued about it that night. I was about to throw her out that night, dude, because I'm like, yo, we can't, this can't be the thing, dude. That fucking breaks everything, shatters all the whole shit.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Or whatever. So, and then we're still talking about it. She was like, babe, you don't understand. She was like, You remember when fucking my therapist told me, instead of like cutting myself or hurting myself or doing whatever, to write my feelings down so that I don't act. Right. She's like, and the things I put in there, she was like, Yeah, we're bad. She was like, but they it wasn't about killing anybody, right? It was like she makes me so mad I want to put her head in the wall.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Or I'd like to beat someone so's ass. Or she was like, but you could ask Isaiah or anybody who lives in the house, dude. They then they never got hit by me, dude.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

And I'm like, I understand. And she and that's when I was like, okay, I get it. You are right. Your therapist did say, write shit down. But you go on the other hand, like again, father's the episode, but dude, like this girl, I'm she she I'm blamed for everything. I know. I'm blamed for her drug problem, blame for her drinking problem, blame for her stealing, I'm blaming for her fucking mental health. I'm blamed for dude. Me and Cassie were the only ones, dude, who bought her shit when she was in psych. Yeah. And they're about to send her to behad for drugs, right? And fucking. And she turned around. Dude, she no, she turned around and told everybody, not just Jessica, everybody, that nobody brought her anything. Nikki brought her hand-me-down clothes, and that's all she got. Bro, me and Cassie spent over $200 on shit. Health and beauty shit, socks, underwear. Yeah, you spent like a hundred bucks like a shit. Sandals. Yeah, fuck it, dude. Everything she because we call that's what you can actually have. Snacks, clothes, sandals, socks, underwear, toothbrush, toothpaste, brushes, hair ties, everything, dude.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

And turns around and tells everybody we didn't get her shit. To the point to where fucking Jill got mad because she heard that fucking we went up and visit her and we didn't get her shit. To where Graham was pissed. So we took we took pictures off fucking me and Cassie's fucking bank account. Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. And fucking sent it to her, but like, fuck that, dude. Yeah, we want to know why we shouldn't even have done that because obviously, bro, if that's the category our family's gonna put us in, it's fucking yeah, because I am so fucking fed up, bro. Like, like, I'm so sick and tired, dude, of being the fucking I'm always the villain, dude. Yeah. When I mean I am fed up being a villain, everyone's story, bro, and what do I act the way that I do?

SPEAKER_04 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

I'm the villain. If if I'm already gonna be predetermined in that in that in that category, in that box, dude, yeah, I may as well be it.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

So when I when you're gonna call me the bad guy, I'm gonna give you a reason to.

SPEAKER_04 27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Because if I'm already gonna be put in that box, why not just act that way?

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

I do. I'm an asshole, dude. I'm an asshole in my own fucking home. I fuck speak to I I if I say 20 words to my wife in this house on a nightly fucking basis, dude, that might be pushing it.

SPEAKER_05 28:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

I don't speak, I don't say anything unless I'm spoken to. I sit around this bitch.

SPEAKER_05 28:09

I'm looking at her deleting all of her text. That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

I'm I'm I'm I'm I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_05 28:14

Yeah, it was weird because I I could tell I could tell it wasn't you because it said hey with two Y's. That's what a girl does. Hey. You know, that's why I said hey lol.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yeah, dude, because I'll tell you right now, I I've I'm dead ass, dude. I did not fucking listen. I'll don't get me wrong, there's certain things we'll have conversations about. I'm like, yo, I don't need nobody going through my shit and seeing what you say sometimes, and I'll like delete certain messages. Yeah, but I've never deleted like a whole thread. I think I got like four years of us talking, you know what I'm saying? That's zero. There's nothing there, it's like four eight messages now. So it's but if if if it was her shit, well, read because I didn't get to delete anything, yeah. So like the whole fucking I'll cheat thing on there still, and fucking no Bailey shit's on it, whatever. I don't give a fuck, dude. I don't care. I'm not gonna do shit because here's the thing as much as I have the heart to do fucked up shit, and as much as I know for sure I could actually cheat and fuck whatever, there's there's huge reasons why I won't. Yeah, it's because I am horrible at shit like that, yeah. And no matter any time, I don't even get a chance to follow through when I get caught. Yeah, so there's like zero point in even trying to initiate or go so far, because I'll be honest with you, bro. Anytime, and it ain't just with her, dude.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Like anytime, and under any circumstances, when I even consider cheating or had a had maybe an off-note conversation with another female, uh bro, I'm not bullshitting, bro. I have gotten caught every single time. So obviously I suck at doing that kind of stuff. Yeah, so what's the point, dude, when I'm just gonna get caught? So it ain't like uh there ain't impulse to do things, it's the point that I know I'm gonna get caught, so what's the fucking point? It's just gonna make things worse. So I just don't do shit. You know what I mean? But anyways, get back to Poppy stuff. Yeah, fucking he fucking would humor me, dude. Because like when everyone, most of the fucking kids were like out of the house and they were older, yeah, like I would be the one, like when I was probably like I'd say maybe 10 to like 14, like he'd go out and do shit on the weekends, he'd be like, Oh, come with me. And I'd like we'd hop in the fucking station wagon aluminum, go do shit. And but he would bring me shit, like we'd go to like guys' house I wouldn't even know, dude. Yeah, like this dude had like a farm and he had a bunch of fucking like vegetables and shit. And we'd go up there and we'd get fucking peas and corn and fucking oh the dude had mad dogs and shit, dude. Right? Never forget the one time we went up there and we were up there quick just to get a bunch of vegetables and cucumbers and shit. Yeah, he gave us like a garbage bag full of fucking vegetables and shit. And we're gonna like go bad if we didn't get rid of them. And we were on our way back, and I remember he was like, We're gonna be quick because we gotta meet your uncle at fucking Bayesons. It was the bar on fucking uh Aristotle Boulevard at the time. So we we get done doing that, we go to Baisons, he gives me a bunch of quarters. There was like this fucking little game machine on the corner, like a bar top game thing. Like it had like Pong and fucking bunch of fucking stupid games on it.

SPEAKER_04 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Sitting there or whatever, and um Uncle Johnny was there and fucking was I'm sitting there playing the game, and the fucking bartender league keeps giving me like root beers and shit for free. It's giving me soda for free, and like pretzels and shit, peanuts and shit free sitting there playing fucking whatever, playing the game or whatever. And I remember fucking Uncle Johnny's fucking um girlfriend of the time comes in, Christine. I don't know if you remember her. Um, Christine, when they lived on Do It, over by fucking He's Not Here and shit in the M and O.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

I think so, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

But he fucking she fucking she came in.

SPEAKER_04 31:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

But when she walked in the door, bro, like even I knew it. She seen me, she's like, Hey, what are you doing here? And I'm like, hey, what's up, fucking Aunt Christine? I was like, I was like, You got some more ice cream for fucking friendlies? Because at the time she worked at Friendlies, yeah, and she get like them Jubilee rolls and the watermelon rolls and shit. And we go over and she'd give us like mad ice cream shit, right? Yeah, yeah, or dude, the watermelon was banging, right? So I I I didn't have a problem with her, dude. Yeah, I was like, Oh, you got some more fucking like friendlies ice cream and shit or whatever. Yeah, she's like, I'll get some and let your fucking father know, right? Yeah, and then all of a sudden I hear her fucking say, What are you doing here, Wally? You fucking drunk fucking piece of shit. Fucking whatever. And all of a sudden she's yelling at him and shit, dude. Yeah, and fucking he turns on a number. He looked at fucking his brother Uncle Johnny and he goes, He goes, Will you get this fucking old fucking hag out of my fucking face? He goes, I'm gonna fucking pound her once, you know, get out of my fucking face, right? You go, he looks, Jungle Time looks at Christine. He goes, get over here and have a fucking drink and sit down and shut the fuck up, you bitch. Right. So you fucking swearing at her and shit. She goes, You want to know why? You go fuck yourself, you fucking piece of shit. And she fucking yelling and screaming. I remember sitting here, everyone yelling and screaming, and then fucking she fucking, I don't know what she had, she had a fucking, she got a little glass drink, dude. Yeah, there was no fruit or anything in it, had ice or whatever. It was a little like narrow cup, short, probably four or five inches tall. Yeah, she looked like ASIP and she like threw it on fucking poppy, bro. Oh shit, but dosed him with that shit. Wow, he fucking punched her fucking dead in the fucking face, dude. He went wapow! She went right out of the fucking stool, knocked the dude over next to her, fucking whatever. He fucking comes in me, goes, he goes, We're fuck, we're fucking leaving. And all of a sudden I hear Uncle Johnny go, I'm gonna kick your fucking motherfucking ass. Hit my fucking old lady, you fucking piece of shit. Yo, I remember Poppy looked at me, he goes, He puts me in the door in the doorway, right? Yeah, he goes, You stay right here. Yeah, don't fucking move. Stay right here. He turned around, he looked at fucking, he looked at my Uncle Johnny, he goes, If you know what's good for you, you fucking tall lanky motherfucker, you go pick your bitch up off the ground, yeah, get yourself a drink and get out of my fucking face. He goes, because I'm gonna put you in the back of a fucking ambulance. You take one more fucking step.

SPEAKER_04 33:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

And he goes, I'll f I'll I'll when I next time I fucking see you, blah blah blah. And dude, Poppy looked at him and he goes, So tomorrow?

SPEAKER_03 33:52

Yeah, we frequent the same bars. So tomorrow, right?

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Because tomorrow we're we're gonna we're we're gonna we're gonna put up dude right up parking lot, right? Tomorrow, right? We'll be at the same bar tomorrow, right? He goes, Okay, see you tomorrow, bitch. We fucking leaves. But dude, there were so many funny times, dude, because them two would constantly fight and poppy would always beat him up.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

Yeah, so that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

But anytime, dude, like he would get into a fight with like his chick or his old lady, bro, and she'd like kick him out. Yeah, Poppy never had the heart to like not let him stay there.

SPEAKER_05 34:16

Right, yeah. So, like, I'll never forget I remember Graham telling me it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

Bro, the let's do the last time, bro. After this time, yeah, he didn't, yeah, dude. I forgot he fucking called, bro, drunk as shit in the middle of the night, dude. Yeah, and Poppy was like, I'm not picking you up, but if you can make it here, yeah, he's like fucking knock, I'll let you in. You can fucking crash on the couch or in the back room or whatever. Yeah, so fucking it wasn't late, late. It was like nine, ten o'clock. You know the old jokes, dude. They get fucking hammered mad early, fucking smash by 10. So he fucking shows up or whatever. Fucking he lets him fucking sleep in the fucking back room. It was summertime, so in the back. Sleeping in the back room, wind up sleeping on the fucking floor. Okay. Now Graham fucking goes and gets the fucking laundry in the morning. Bro, he puked in the clean laundry, dude. That's what it was. Yeah, and she fucking dude. I she was screaming so loud, bro. She woke me up. I was I was sleeping upstairs. She fucking was like, you get your fucking motherfucking, put it up here. You put you get your motherfucking brother, you wake him the fuck up, you get him the fuck out of my house. He's to never ever come back in this fucking house again. That nasty fucking disgusting piece of shit. And my fucking poppy goes, what the well, what the Jesus fucking Christ. What the fuck did he do? He goes, he fucking puked in the whole basket of clean laundry. Poppy goes in the back room, get kicks him, dude. Yeah, right in the fucking ass. Pow get the get the fuck out and don't ask to come the fuck back. He goes, You fucking puked on the fucking in the fucking laundry basket, you disgusting fucking pig. He never spent the night again, dude. That was it, that was the last time. But Uncle Johnny was a disgusting fucking piece of shit, too, bro. As much as I like like the dude, yeah, like I remember a lot of shit, bro. Like, even though like me and Lori are like far enough in age, yeah. Well, far enough in age, dude. But I remember when she was younger, I'd be like five or six. She'd be like 12 or 13. And they'd come over to like our house for like parties and shit.

SPEAKER_04 36:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

And dude, I would never forget the shit that I would see him do, bro. Like all the kids would be playing and shit, like Scott and Lori and fucking, you know what I mean? And fuck Snail and all them. Be playing and shit. And it'd be full on party, dude. And I remember like Lori would walk by, dude, and Uncle Tony would smack her ass, bro, and be like, Yeah, that's right, that ass is mine. That ass is mine. That ass is mine. And come to find out, dude, years down the road, bro. He was molesting that girl the whole time.

SPEAKER_05 36:31

I remember hearing that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

That's fucking disgusting, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And no wonder why she's all fucked up. Yeah, dude. You know what I mean? And that, but but another thing, you go to fucking like Aunt Kathy, too. She's another one, bro. Like, snail broke into my house and robbed man money from me, dude.

unknown 36:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Remember when I was looking at Blandina? Yeah. And he broke in when I was fucking wasn't home and stole all the weed and fucking money and shit.

SPEAKER_05 36:52

Yeah, give me like climbed the fucking house.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Yeah, he climbed, yeah. He fucking broke in, dude. And I knew it was fucking him. And I fucking seen him and I chased him into the fucking house, dude. And the fucking Aunt Kathy was fucking telling me how well he wouldn't take it if I didn't have it to take. And she was another fucking piece of shit. I looked her dead in the fucking face, bro. I go, Aunt Kathy, I said, I know you know my mom, you know my dad really fucking well. I go, I'm gonna tell you something right now. Either I get my motherfucking money back in the next hour, yeah, or I will find somewhere to burn your fucking house down. Yeah, I'm dead fucking serious. I go, I'll all I all I have to do is go two blocks down the fucking street. Yeah, I'll pay some 100 bucks to light this bitch up. Yeah, she came out, dude, and gave me every fucking dollar. How much does he owe you? How much owe you? I was like, well, two dollars worth of weed and about four dollars with fucking money. All right, I'll be my ballot. She had to give me my money back. She ain't never talked to me since she wouldn't even look at me till this day, dude. Because I got invited to her granddaughter's graduation, and I thought they were gonna kick me out the way she looked at me. Wow. And that's the same girl who wind up getting fucking fucking dudes in the alleyway in James Street, right? Danielle, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Our family's so fucked up, dude. And this is our bloodline people. This ain't these ain't like through marriage relatives, dude. These are blood relatives, dude. These ain't this ain't like through a marriage deal. Nah, like it's it's like you just look at it, probably got crackheads and molesters and firebugs and fucking it's like Jesus fucking Christ. And the motherfuckers look at me and go, You're crazy. I'm normal, dude. Right, yeah, you're fucking normal, yeah, compared to these other fucking cuckoos that are in the fucking tree on the tree. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You go fucking Aunt Joyce. I love that lady to death, but she let her fucking mentally retarded son run around the neighbor and get drunk. Yeah. I mean, let's put a lot of shit in perspective. I was shocked when you told me he'd go to the blue sock game and they'd serve them. I hate saying it because it really was a different time. I don't think they can it was dude, you gotta think it was back in the era where they actually made the made the fuck commercials where they would call them retarded. Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:41

Yeah, retarded people are fully functional adults, they're just a little slow.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

It's like, dude, like you were uh but now you call someone a retard, they're offended. Yeah. I mean you call some a normal, they're offended because yeah, cancel culture nowadays. Yeah, but like what does normal mean? Like I mean, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 38:55

I always wonder how grandpa would look at like today's world.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Oh, dude, I'm glad he's not around, bro. I think he'd hate it. I am so gl I'm I am so glad. You know what I mean? Like I do I started thinking about like like shit like that.

SPEAKER_05 39:15

I mean every aspect I dude I think he'd be a Trump guy.

SPEAKER_02 39:20

Well, I mean, yeah, I think that that that's that's almost a given, and I think another thing too, dude, is like based on like his era and stuff, dude. Like in the like you gotta think he was the early 40s he was born. Yeah, he would definitely not be agreeing with this fucking men and fucking women's bathroom shit and this trannies and indoctrinating kids and teaching them about blowjobs and fuck kindergarten. Like that shit he was old or not, bro. I think he'd hit people. He would take he would take the ass beating at 85.

SPEAKER_05 39:51

Well, yo, that's why when fucking um when uh the mayor dude got involved with it. It sounds like it's fucking raining. It is raining. I think I have the sunroof open on every day. I th we weren't expecting it.

SPEAKER_02 40:09

We're not supposed to get rained. It was like a 10% chance of raining. It's raining when you can see it.

SPEAKER_05 40:12

Yeah, my car's been talking so.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Well, I'll keep talking, go ahead. But um I mean at the end of the day, dude, like like yeah, he wouldn't he wouldn't agree with the fucking era the era we're living in right now. It's just all fucked up. Um not saying that like I give a shit because I could care less. I think I was given the uh privilege of um how do you say quote unquote not giving a fuck what anybody does? Because I don't give a shit, like at all. I mean I literally can care less what anybody does. As long as you leave me and my fucking kids alone, we're all good, bro. Like, just don't go creeping the bathrooms with my kids around and you know what I mean, and fucking shit like that. But outside of that, bro, we're good. I don't give a shit. Leave my fucking leave my kids and my fucking family the fuck alone and we're cool. Do whatever you want, man. Have your gay bars, have your training clubs, touch each other, stroke each other, do whatever you want. Like I don't I really could give a shit. Do whatever you want to do. Just don't fucking like indoctrinate my fucking children and shit, dude, because that's when we're gonna have a problem. Um I try my best to be as non-violent as possible, but I go, I think we all have fucking sunroof was open, bro.

SPEAKER_05 41:30

Was it inside is fun? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

I think it only started raining like not even five minutes ago, though. Is it bad, bad inside? You don't need like an aura. No, not like a boat or anything. But anyways, uh like I was saying on here, fucking like as much as I'm like anti-violence, like now, because I'm older, but I could tell you straight up, like we would have it it would be like I was in my 20s again if my kid was ever in the bathroom. Yeah, and some fucking chick with a dick come in. Yeah, like I think right there, dude, there'd be no questions at all. I'm catching assault one. I know fucking for sure. And like I said, I try to stay as calm under certain circumstances as possible because I'm really I'm not built for prison anymore, dude. I'm about I'm about to be 49 years old, bro. I can't, I don't I can't I don't want to do that. That's shit you do in like your teens and twenties, maybe early 30s. You ain't you're you're you're you're a a fucking a regular fucking criminal if you're continuing to go to fucking jail in your fucking forties, dude. Like it's just that's just the nature of the fucking situation. But like I like I tried for my most part, dude, to like to remain calm. But yeah, dude, like Poppy wouldn't he I think he died the perfect time. Yeah, I was I was about to say though, so he he maybe maybe maybe maybe like a little early in age, yeah. But I think when it comes to like his values and shit, well the way and the way the world is, even say 15 years ago, yeah, he'd have gotten beat to death somewhere because he would have said some real off-note shit like hey, chick with a dick and shit. He would have said all kinds of mean shit.

SPEAKER_05 42:59

He just missed Obama.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

He died in 07, Obama took office in fucking 08. As much as Poppy tried the really hard not to be like super racist, yeah, I know for sure if he was alive when that dude won, the N-word would have came out a lot more than we thought, dude. You've gotta be shitting me. You voted for the ninja. You know what I mean? Like I already and I know, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, but again, like it's it's it's hard to put someone in that era, okay? And and I and I hate and I know a lot of people can think I'm agreeing. Yeah, like I think what what people say and how people act are like an appropriate thing to do, but like when you have someone who's born in 1942, right, okay, when your your people expect them to change their ways. But no, but no, you gotta think you gotta think their most influential years of their lives were white and blacks only shit. Yeah. And all white schools you weren't allowed in this neighborhood. Black water fountains. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, like you don't and I'm not saying, like I said, that that that's the probably the act of the. just you know but like when you're raised in that era like any like dude but like anything else that people say um about whether it's someone's character or how they act or their personalities or whatever you whatever box you want to put them in it's it it's the nature of the situation bro and my father has told me this a million fucking times bro a leopard no change their spots dude it's just what this then we find a way to hide it yeah maybe camouflage it a little bit but sooner or later bro the true you're gonna come out and they're gonna know exactly the type of person you are anyways so why what's the point of hiding who you are right and I think that's why like with me with my personality and how I am yeah like that's why it's always either you love me or hate me deal with me. Yep because I don't know how to not be myself dude right and when I feel like when I'm myself and you don't like me for who I am then I you don't need to be around me then.

SPEAKER_04 44:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

Because there's certain there there's certain aspects and qualities with my person dude I'm not changing. Right and I'm not saying that I'm not I can't yeah I'm not capable okay and and and and another thing dude and to double down on it I probably could make an effort to try right but I'll be completely honest with you dude I'm not going to right I am on the other dude I am I'm on I'm pushing the other side of 50 bro yeah there's certain things I'm not gonna change dude you know what I'm saying like like for example like if I'm fucking heading to 50 and my cock still works I should have the I should have the right to use it. Yeah right I shouldn't have to put it in my hand all the time and go what am I fucking searching a porn hub today.

SPEAKER_04 45:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:32

It shouldn't be that way. I shouldn't have to be like ooh can I tribute you find a picture of my chick and jerk off on my phone you know I'm saying or ooh some fucking nice fucking nice fucking after work underwear. Right jerk off in these things. Like that's not that that's no dude right you know I'm saying so like I like I like I said man like it's just yeah Poppy the is as bad as it is for him to have fucking passed away before he was 65 yeah is almost a blessing dude because I'll be honest with you I'm not sure if his heart could have took what the world turned into I'm not sure if he would have been able to like honestly grasp how how things have changed. Like the whole cancel culture shit and the the the election of a black president deal and and and you know then they got the Joe Biden shit and like like you I don't I don't I don't think he would have had the the mental capacity to not lose his fucking mind. I think he would either lost his temper or he went fucking crazy. One of the fucking two would have happened that would have been that would have been the the the outcome right you know what I mean like again like he bro when he we gotta understand dude like he was 20 in 1962 I don't even think segregation was a kick in yet and he was in adult he was in Vietnam he was in he was in Vietnam and I think there was still most of the country was segregated still segregation see he was in Vietnam and it was so the country was still segregated. Yeah so you gotta understand he's already now he's already had the situation where fucking like he already had the situation where like all his learning is done. Yeah right all his opinions are now officially formulated his view on what this country is and what's going to be is already established.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

You know what I mean? Like again he was in Vietnam you think he didn't hear all that propaganda shit when he was out in the fucking jungles getting shot at you think he didn't see the whole we don't know why you n-words are here.

SPEAKER_04 47:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

It's not your war leave it to the whites like they did did he seen it all right he knows the probably it's a propaganda machine. Yeah okay and and he's already a formular opinion like for example like people look at me and go for well okay I'm 48 whatever and you go rewind the hands of time right and you go okay well when was fucking when was Sean fucking like 16 and you go oh around fucking 1993 you know what I'm saying so when did I grow up I was an 80s baby dude so I had to deal with the whole crack epidemic shit and then I fucking then we dealt with the fucking whole everyone's gonna get HIV and then the HIV the HIV myth was it was only gays. Yeah yeah I was just watching a video about it and then and then and then and then turn into not just gays now it's if you share a needle and then all of a sudden it fucking went from that to then the fucking the whole story was the same guy fuck the monkey got it. Yeah like you d you do get so many 99 stories about how things happen. Yeah you know what I'm saying like like you got all that stuff. So you you sit and you think you know what I mean about a lot of this shit and you're just like you're a product of when you when when you grew up you know what I mean like like for example like Joshua was fucking born in 88 so what's Joshua gonna know dude Joshua's gonna know the mid-90s through so now you go ahead and you look at that era and you can pretty much see what his character and what his opinions of things are going to be based on the era that he grew up in. So when you have people that were born in the fucking 40s and born in the 50s of course you're gonna have a lot of whites and Italians and shit that are not are are not going to be in favor of black people. It's just what it is. Which I always thought was messed up because we always were poor yeah so like even us being like being white yeah we've gone very poor neighborhoods and then as as the years went along them poor neighborhoods were you know turned into black neighborhoods. But then you know the whites were now the minority of them neighborhoods being poor. So I don't think a lot of people see like like for example like you you you're you're here yeah you've seen it dude like you fucking witnessed it like after me but like I seen the beginning of the shit. Yeah like you had poor neighborhoods but there was white poor neighborhoods. Right. Then you had black poor neighborhoods then you had the project poor and then you had the it was kind of still kind of broken up yeah and then all of a sudden it turned into a poor neighborhood was a motherfucking poor neighborhood. Yeah black white Puerto Rican Mexican Dominican it was all in the same neighborhood so then you have my did when you have my generation where we really don't have really that racist part of us dude because we did we've lived we were grew up poor my fucking schools were predominantly a fucking of minorities of blacks and Puerto Ricans and then were my friends growing up but then I you sit back and you look at it how would I turn out that turn fine now yeah but because of my fucking environment how'd I turn out selling drugs yeah doing fucking drugs being around the wrong people having all my friends keeping continually getting arrested and getting in trouble and beating people up and robbing fucking houses and stealing fucking cars and robbing stereos because look where you grew up at so that it we didn't see it as a color thing. No in my in my era it was a poor thing.

SPEAKER_05 50:54

It was not you were you were black because you were poor no you were poor right it was a class it was a class thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:00

Yeah my dad growing up it was a race thing right you have josh well Joshua similar to mine it was a poor thing it was a fucking environment thing it was a fucking whatever thing but now we're now now we're in the fuck now we're in the fucking boxing era of of now racism's back yeah but it's backward yeah now it's blacks hate us whites yeah Spanish hate us whites yeah and now everyone that's white now is pro-ICE wants to deport everybody like it's just the whole situation now is like completely fucked up because it's literally backwards now dude and I think it's very frustrating bro because I'm grateful dude at like for my age my my my grow group which I believe it's if I'm not mistaken Gen X I am yeah and you got the newer blacks who hate us white people dude but I can run into my boy Leon tomorrow yeah dap me up hug me want to sit in a fucking parking lot bro and talk to me for an hour about how things have been how the kids been how old are they now where you staying at now bro all the other shit but I guarantee that if you were to talk to one of his kids kill Whitey dude yeah yeah same thing with fucking like Danny known that kid since fucking 2007 bro until this day my son's fucking godfather a black guy and his motherfucking Jamaican yeah you get what I'm saying fucking you get then again like I said Leon then you got Tyrone then you got fucking Marcus then you got Ray I got dude I got so many fucking people that are black friends dude you know what I mean because Gen X didn't give a fuck we didn't see color dude but then you had the fucking era before where fucking like my dads and my mom's yeah they fucking dislike blacks because they fucking were raised to right they didn't choose to yeah they're raised to their parents told them don't get along with black people they're horrible stay away from they come in your neighborhood fuck lynch them and shit yeah like that's what you got yeah and it's completely unfair yeah but you can't blame them because they were raised in an environment dude because I guarantee if I know if if I put if we grew up in the 40s probably be the same way. Yeah oh yeah absolutely so like and and it's and it's frustrating I kind of feel like we're going back to that well we are but it's backward now.

SPEAKER_05 53:01

Yeah it's but I mean it's backwards backwards well you got I I think like the way we hate white people now dude the way I look at it is that like I think racism was pretty much over with and then because like you said like my generation was raised to like be accepting of all because I went to school with these kids I went to school with that's what I mean to actually fuck whatever right and so my generation was the first ones that like didn't see shit like that and then they turn around they stab you in the back and it's like yo yeah and that's bringing the racism back on on our end too because like yo I I treated you just like I would treat any of my white friends like there's no difference.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

I bring up current events like for example like that Cameron Anthony thing yeah with the Austin oh they they finally put the video out you see that yeah but yeah but like yeah and then we keep getting oh you got a grainy video and you can tune anything I don't care about any of that uh this is what I'm trying to say about it. Yeah like when this whole thing went down dude before he even went to trial bro first things first it ain't a it ain't a fucking black and white fucking thing his parents are pieces of shit yeah dude they took all his gofundly fucking back a piece of shit lawyer yeah they got they got him a bullshit fuck $100 an hour fucking attorney after they got a million dollars and bought a house in a gated community about Lincoln Continental okay yeah and then you started up another one and got more money and kept that shit too okay then the guy sacrificed your son for both yeah yeah but but that even the worst of it dude like you go on social media when this whole shit actually first went down and he first got arrested and there was no trial yet and the story was still kind of breaking right do you have any idea how many videos dude I've seen of black people sitting in their cars clapping yeah it's about time you get to feel what we feel one of yours died yay you know I'm saying like not to be an asshole you find me a video of a white person seeing a fucking a fucking white cop murdering a black guy and a white dude sitting in their fucking car clapping right saying yeah and we're dead today we're you ain't gonna see that shit dude because you guys love to create your own narrative to fucking make us racist when you can't even prove it's they can't prove it that's what makes me mad dude you say it and say it and say it and say it and say it you can't no evidence of anything they want to be a victim at all times. Well I feel like I'm married to a victim I got I'm married to a professional victim bro I cannot bring the laundry up till tomorrow and it'd be like I had no cloth dirty clothes for a month.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

I had c I didn't have nothing to wear for fuck six weeks. Yeah I'm married to a victim dude I'm used to it though I feel like I live in fucking segregation that's why the last episode was Pussy Prisoner I mean and I don't even mean it in a negative way I think we should go back to a form of segregation bro I think it was better that way. Dude I it I hate I I hate saying it but it sounds fucked up to say it. But you literally hear the people saying it now that's what I'm saying. It seems like we're all like for example they like I don't want to live around like for example like they'll go to like a fucking regular like mixed college dude yeah not HSBCU right and they'll want like their their own learning centers and their own dormitories and their own whatever but yet we fucking had to hear how fucking it was so bad and evil that you couldn't go to a diner and eat with a white person. Yeah. Or you couldn't go into a fucking bathroom if it said fucking whites only or you had your own pools and you had your own schools you had your own teachers this was a big problem back in the 50s 40s 50s 60s even rolling into the 70s where we learn completely desegregated up till then right but now we we're up here in 2025 and you want nothing to do with white people now. Yeah so what what the fuck was the point? Yeah when when all all you wanted was to be a part of yeah but yeah yeah but think but what was the point in all of your civil rights figures dude yeah going through all this shit and taking beatings and attacked by dogs murdered and fucking yeah lynched and hung and burnt and houses burnt down and kids murdered and to get what you get what you have now to be like fuck it we don't want it. Yeah these fucking silver people gotta be spinning in their fucking grave everything I spinning in their fucking grave bro they did everything to want to fucking make it a normal country where everyone can just be together and be happy and yeah I think we're really close to it man until Obama he dude he that dude literally flipped this country up on his head and made it more racist than it's ever been in our life because I said before I said it before like before him I used to empathize with the black Daniel they I they they really did struggle and blah blah blah. And then you realize then you get older and you like realize that like half the shit is just exaggerated or just yeah but flat out made up it sounds messed up as much as like I want to like finger point the Obama thing I think just by him based on him being even a person of color and being the president yeah escalated the black people dude oh yeah because all they cared about yeah but all all that all they cared about was like fucking what they're gonna milk the guy for yeah you're gonna extend EBT and you're gonna give us fucking free phones and there's gonna be better fucking insurance you can go to whatever doctors you want to and what what do you do to you in the end bro Obamacare kicked you off everything. Yeah and if you didn't and they said you can keep your doctor what you couldn't keep your doctor you did yeah it's all bullshit dude no you didn't and then they turn around and everyone hangs fucking Trump to the fucking gallows about fucking immigration when fucking Obama worse Obama's nickname was the fucking fucking the fucking deporter in chief yeah yep he deported more fucking people out of this country in his eight years than Trump has done in his fucking six so far. I don't even think if Trump went above and beyond it said to do more deportation the next two he's not he's not catching what fucking Obama did dude and I just think the whole situation bro is like this whole country is just it's like it's like a walking fucking two face. Yeah no it's such a such a disgusting display of books exactly like it's it's it's betrayal and it's just words. Yep and like this one I don't know who it is the one comedian fucking said it straight up on a fucking on a fucking um on a fucking interview yeah the only way you change what's going on in this country right now is literally gonna be political violence. You need to do the macho man the the the uh Ari Shafur he's always on Joe Rogan he he he always does the um the parks episodes with him fucking sheen gillis I know for sure the guy I remember seeing his face yeah and so he used to do the macho man oh um Joe's Joe Soders he fucking went on one time yeah yo and it fucked up he said he does it fucked up because it was it was an interview like ET like entertainment tonight or some shit yo it's not some shit that like it shouldn't even it's not a it's not a platform to talk about that shit but he was right they had they asked about it yeah that's about the political event they they brought up like voting or some shit and he was like voting doesn't change anything yeah how how are you gonna change he said he's a killer full politician don't change yeah the guy was like well I wouldn't go there he's like well look throughout history he know but he but when I mean he's dead ass right I just because I deep don't I need deep dive but I don't know enough yeah to like be the just see if we see he was where he's coming from yeah he's right anytime there's been a true fucking actual regime change yeah in a country bloodshed every time yep the leader murdered yeah fuck his cabinet killed yeah they fucking die he got fucking dragged down the fucking street that's bullshit he didn't do anything wrong I know yeah you want you want to talk you want to talk about a political guy who was murdered for no fucking reason he's we he's he was actually doing good for the people in a country and everything he's dude he's on my Mount Rushmore the guy you should have never been killed ever ever ever bro good for him they're trying to do it to the other dude too I forget him Josh anymore but Joshua he he outside of him being like not being communist he was Hitler like they had their own banking yeah they had their own goal they had their own resources anybody wanted to learn anything everyone got a home for free yeah healthcare was free if they want education they wanted to come to America Libya paid for their whole education when they want to go to Harvard they paid for it dude they did God forbid not to be mean and you know this you know this is gonna be so off from anything I've ever said but it's so fucked up to say something like this. God forbid an African country had something good going for it. Yeah just keep them in the dirt it's so fucked up and who wants to make these memes about mud huts he was getting them out of that shit and who got in the middle of it you know goddamn well I don't give a fuck and you hang me from a fucking tree in my yard now there ain't no motherfucking way that America didn't have their fucking hands fucking elbow deep in that bullshit and I guarantee Hillary's fucking raggedy ass had more to do than anybody else fuck that dude no she she she she had a they did an interview about it that were not about it but that dude get killed bro and she was like zero reason she was like well look at Gadafi we he we came we saw we killed him for no reason dude not to be an asshole no I'm not trying to be a dick you look how small not to be a dickhead look how small that country is bro for real and let's be realistic here no matter how much money quote unquote that country could have actually gotten right yeah no matter how rich that country would have actually gotten yeah they would have never been able to pose a threat to the United States of America so what in the fuck was the point what'd you gain dude you put them back in the poor that country now looks like fucking looks like the fucking West Bank yeah because of that fucking bullshit yeah god forbid any other country prospers but America and I am pro-American like a motherfucker but it's shit like that that pisses me off because you want to know what the richer the world the richer the the better the place we live there's more because you can go there's more fucking you can experience more you can live more you can visit more respect more all those fucking stupid all those anti-US stereotypes are going out the window because the World Cup is here.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:22

So all the foreign foreigners come here for the World Cup and they're like yo America's not so bad because they used to have this opinion like yo you walk down the street you're gonna get shot and fucking all that shit. You don't know what videos I've seen if you walk two o'clock in the morning alone yeah going to a fucking quick trip by themselves and shit well their pizza's good yeah dude yeah they're eating our food like this is amazing that they don't have ranch over there so they do ranch back home with them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

Oh dude do you hear the story about the ranch? No TSA had to put something up oh yeah they're putting your table they're not allowed no they're not allowed to X amount oh it's a drug only so many ounces per person to bring back but it's messed up I think they have ranch but it ain't like our ranch. Oh it ain't like hidden valley and something like that. They get some ghetto bullshit or whatever. Just like they're amazed about freebief. Oh yeah yep yeah that too dude they're amazed about portion size yeah you know what I mean like they're the dude but here's the thing yeah but the thing is like it is so fucked up that it took something like the World Cup yeah for other countries to come to our fuck our America and literally be able to come on any social media platform and go bro everything we've been told is a lie yeah yep it ain't all violent all the people get murdered because the the the news they get is people get murdered in the street every day. That's all they get and the violence everything getting burnt to the ground and people getting shot and stabbed and the cops murdering people and then they get to see it themselves and they go to go get get to go to different sections of the United States of America all over the place. Yeah I'm dude I'm talking about from Seattle to Boston they're fucking everywhere. Yeah dude yeah there's World Cup games across the country dude Missouri Indiana Missouri Texas New York Boston Florida fuck South Carolina fucking Oklahoma Seattle California dude they're all over and they see out they're seeing all these states and they're getting they're getting you cannot you cannot deny the narrative now you've seen it yourself this country ain't as bad as they fucking say it is yeah we're we're painting the shitty picture because you're just like our president yeah and that's disgusting. Yeah because how much you want to bet it wasn't so bad when old Joe was in there. It wasn't so bad when old Barack Hussein was in there. You know what I mean? They fucked up is like yo the US legitimately got a chance to win this fucking thing yo because that the the the the fucking the hardest thing was our group we got out of the group undefeated I don't know how we pulled that off and yo we we played really well our next one's against Turkey at 10 p.m on Thursday the next game's against Turkey at 10 p.m on Thursday but yeah we we got a legitimate fucking shot to win this fucking crazy right if we win it's soccer now motherfucker nationwide or um uh worldwide soccer it's not football anymore it'll always be fucking soccer to me yeah but you know it's kind of wild and what's crazy is like I always watch World Cup World Cup's cool to me dude I mean I'll be honest with you if I wasn't poor I I used to like to go out for at least one round dude go to Lucan's during the day on a Saturday fucking just not even get drunk have a couple drinks order some fucking wings of pizza chill watch a couple games for about two three hours and come home.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:29

That one year we thought fucking Ivory Coast was Ireland because they're fucking Jericho backward yeah we were like yo well we're like why are all the Irish people black what the fuck's going on and then they said ivory coast oh yeah because it's reversed yeah because you know it's funny me me hey Quinn remember me and you were talking about that when what I went and got my hair cut about what remember about the Ivory Coast we thought was the that the black people we thought was the Ireland thing?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Me and Joshua just talked about that's why I asked you but fucking I mean I don't I don't know dude like I know it's supposed to be a poppy episode and I want to end with him though here. Yeah

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Um to be honest with you, dude, like I think that um and I think it's gonna be a perfect spot to end because at least it's something that me and you guys can talk about for at least not at length, but at least five or ten minutes. Um is that I don't think that there's a lot of people like that have had both parents, yeah, have gotten the opportunity that like we had.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:20

You know what I'm saying? I I I I if if I if we I feel like if if there was a God I got given a blessing was him getting sick and Graham running out of fucking sick time at work and me and you having to take care of him till he fucking passed away. Yeah, if I feel I feel like if I was given anything of any substance part of my life, any any substance in my life, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

Yeah, any walking him to the bathroom was was was getting him out of bed.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:48

Yep. Putting his feet up, watching corny ass fucking movies I'll never watch again. You know what I mean? Him wanting to fucking him wanting to fucking put his feet up on the fucking love seat and fucking appreciate the fact that fucking I put up the fucking flagpole in front of this house before he fucking passed away. Yeah that I did alone. That everyone says, you know, I can't I don't know how to do anything and whatever, and I'm incapable and I'm not a fucking man, I can't build shit. I made dude, I would have fucking built him the house across the street. Yeah, if he had a fucking asked me to. But the thing is, dude, is I don't think like even for you being like his fucking his first grand grandchild. Yeah, that is to for me, like I said, you're not telling your opinion, allow you talk about it the way you want. But like for me, as my my personal opinion is that that to me was like a fucking reward. Yeah, it was something that I don't think many people in life, dude, have the opportunity to do. No, you're right. To take care of a person that they love and to have conversations, dude, that you've never thought you'd have with a person in your entire life.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

For him to tell you stories that you never heard before, yeah, and to finally, for the first time in your life, at least for me, and I know I know I'm not sure if he did this for you, but I remember for me, I was in the room one time and I was helping him get out of bed, and he was having a real hard time getting out of bed. His feet were all swollen and shit. Yeah, I remember getting him up and he he didn't he couldn't stand up. His feet were really hurting. He was like, just leave me here to sit for a minute. Yeah. He couldn't put his feet on the floor and they were really so swollen he couldn't get hurt. I remember that they're fine. Right, yeah. And I remember he was sitting there, and for about three or four minutes, dude, he literally sat there and he was like, I apologize for how I treated you.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:22

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:23

I fucking I'm not it's this is not an excuse. I was a really bad alcoholic. I had violent tendencies. I took a lot of things out on people that I shouldn't have taken out of uh out of on. And I you don't have to accept my apology, but I am I'm I'm sorry for the abuse and the fucking hittings and the beatings and the and the way that I treated treated you, you know what I mean? For for a lot of years. You don't have to accept my apology, but I see I didn't want it to be that way. He apologized to me, dude. And the thing is, bro, is like you know how many people don't get that? They get no closure, dude. If their parent was a piece of shit, they just died. And then you get and then my mom, and and and and then you you have to sit in that your rest of your life, dude. About could have been fixed. Is so-and-so ever sorry for what they've done to me. Right. Did I get a chance to prove that I am a good child or I am a good son to my fucking mom or dad? Do you know people who don't get that? Yeah, like that was to me, that was a gift, and for you to be there for it, and you chose to be, yeah, you didn't, I didn't make you, you chose to. I got up and I came over, and I will stay, and there's one thing I will say about it, and I'll let you talk about it too, because I know you definitely gotta have shit to say about that. As fucked up as it is to say, and I will say it because I will always believe it to the core of my being, dude. Yeah, taking care of my father and going to work and almost never being home. Yeah, I believe is one of the sole reasons why I've my relationship failed with Fuck Kirsten I's ass mom. I'll never feel different. Really? There was nothing but fights about it, dude. I'm never home. All I care about is my fucking family. I'm saying I always got insulted.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:03

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

You don't give a fuck about your fucking kids over here. You don't care about your fucking wife. You don't care about it. Well, she tried to afterward, yeah, but like not during. No, yeah. I got I got talked to like a dog about me being a horrible fucking husband and a piece of shit father because I was never home. And I can't leave my dad alone. Right. Yeah, he's he's physically incapable. Scott can right, he left a nigga tipped over in the fucking bathroom, left him there, and called my mom talking about I can't get him up. And what where do you go? I went to work. What do you mean? You left him there. Yeah, I had to go and fuck me and Joe had to come show up fuck four in the morning, get him off the fucking floor. But like, I mean, I don't know, dude. Like I definitely want you to talk about that part because I think to me, like no, I did. That was that was the ending part of his life, dude. And like for me, like I said, it was big, it was big for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

Like for me, I knew it was a lot for you, so I'd want to let you go through it alone. You know, I I I'd have shit going on at the time. I wasn't working, I wasn't, you know, whatever. I think I had collars and shit, but it was like I had like afternoon classes or some shit. So quickly.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:08

Um extra box because the box got wet and it's all wet.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

In the kitchen. I don't know where you're gonna get in the box. You might have to go back in the basement or something, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:24

Okay, well I checked earlier. Like when they asked me. And um having it, and um like well yeah, let me finish this and I'll ask you.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:41

But yeah, for me, like I I couldn't let you do it alone. You know what I mean? And like I said, I didn't have shit going on, and I also realized it was important because like for most of my life it felt like everyone was just waiting for him to die. You know what I mean? Because he like from a young age, he he was always in the house, not always, but you know what I mean. He had two heart attacks. Yeah, just from when I was around for I think he had what four total or some shit, right? So I was around for two.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:06

Um he was a little asshole about his heart attacks, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:09

Like, I know about it all the one during Christmas, he wouldn't even fucking say anything. He's popping nitro pills like fucking candy.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:14

He ran out, they wouldn't even give him a refill. Yeah, no, he used so many. And then he went up going to the hospital like two days after.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:21

And everyone's like, yo, why didn't you say anything?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:22

And he turned around, he said he said, he said, I didn't want I I refused. I'd rather die than ruin the holiday.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:28

Yeah.

unknown 1:12:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

Which we're sitting here thinking, like, yo, you're you dying would have ruined the holiday.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

Yeah, like you dying would have ruined the holiday.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

Like, what the fuck do you mean? Yeah, but that's what I mean. Like when he like when he used to say like certain shit like that though, yeah, like and like I said, I'm not saying like quote unquote, like it was an influence on me or whatever, because I can't say that because I couldn't say for sure. Yeah, but I definitely believe there's there's certain tendencies that I have because I was around it. Right. You know what I mean? Like, like you don't want people to worry about you, you can worry about yourself. Like, I worry about my own shit. Yeah, you guys do your thing. Yeah, I don't want you guys wasting your time and energy worrying about me.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:05

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:05

Like, and and I sometimes it's like that's a really bad quality dude, but then on the other hand, it's like, do you really why do you always want to feel like you're always putting a burden on people?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

If my health sucks, it shouldn't always be on you. Right. You know what I mean? I put myself in this situation, but it's my health that's fucked up. I think that's the way I look at it sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:23

I think a lot of it from his point of view was he realized that he did it to himself, majority, like most of it, like with the way you live, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:32

Fucking drinking all the I mean Yeah, but you think I was living that way for 20 fucking years.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:39

It's one of them double-edged sword deals. Yeah, because I'll be honest with you, dude. I think that if I had to go out a little early, yeah, like he did, but to know that at least I know for sure that when I do go, I went out on my terms, right? How I wanted to live. Yeah, and that I feel like I live that I live my life to the fullest in the way that I wanted to live it. I think I would you could take 10 years for me to know that when that when when the fucking final breath comes, yeah, that I know that I can die in peace, knowing I did it my way. Yeah, and my terms I wanted to do it. And that's and it sounds fucked up, dude. And I know it's comes up as really selfish. Yeah, but what people need to when I think of black people don't understand, and this is what I mean for me, yeah, and I think this will be the first time you heard me say like how I see life. And this is just like I said, it's gonna come up real fucked up. Yeah, I don't give a fuck how many kids you have. Yeah, I don't care if you're with your husband 60 fucking years or you're with your wife 60 fucking years. At the end of the fucking day, bro, yeah, you die alone. Yeah, it doesn't fucking matter who gives a shit. Yeah, it don't matter who loves you, it doesn't matter how long you've been together with your fucking significant other. At the end of the fucking day, bro, it's your life. It's called yours, yeah. Not ours. Yeah, it's yours, it's your life, dude. And if you choose to live it in misery, that's on you. Yeah, I refuse to. I'm in a really bad situation in my relationship right now, and it sounds fucked up, and Quinn can attest because I said it to her fucking face yesterday, and the whole whole attitude changed because I finally fucking said it. I looked her dead in the face, I said, I don't give a fuck at all anymore. I don't give a shit. I'm doing what I want to fucking do. You want to come along for the fucking ride, so fucking be it. If not, fuck it. I don't care, dude. I literally don't care. And ask Quinn, dude, ever since I said that shit dead to her fucking face in the dining room, bro, everything's been different. Yeah, because I don't think she has ever heard me look her dead in the face and be completely and know that it was truthful. Yeah, that I she knows I meant it. I don't give a fuck at all. I don't care, dude. I'm done. I said I gave the fuck up. It's that simple, dude. As far as I'm concerned, bro, I got a roommate, dude. Yeah, I can give a fuck. You do you, I do me, I'll help you with shit. Nothing, nothing gonna fucking change. I can need to jerk off the porn hub, we're cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

It's fucking so fucked up that it took that statement for things to kind to take a turn. Yeah, it shouldn't have it shouldn't have to be that way, dude. Yeah, I shouldn't. My action should have showed you I didn't give a fuck anymore. Yeah. But obviously I have to fucking be mean.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:29

And say it to face. And again, like I said earlier in the episode, what I say. If I'm already gonna be painted as the fucking villain, bro, I may as well be fucking the Joker.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:39

I may as well be fucking Heath Ledger.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:42

Watch the fuck, what watch the fuck watch the fucking pen disappear. I may as well be that guy. Because if if you're already gonna put me in that box, why don't you just be it?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:50

And I don't and and and I fucking hate it sometimes, dude, because as much as I take pleasure in being a dick, dude. Yeah, like I'm not gonna lie, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:59

Like I don't wanna be though.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:01

But when I am, I make sure it's pleasureful.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:05

I enjoy it. I pick my I pick my spots. Yeah, and I'm very calculating with my actions, dude. I know exactly what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:12

Like when I when I'm sitting here and that didn't even just her, this is in general. When people say shit to me, like, you know what I mean, why would you say such a thing, or I can't believe you'd act that way, or why would you do this thing, blah blah blah. You are in and then motherfuckers look at me and be like, why would you do that? That was fucking stupid. Like I hear I've heard that enough times in my life, right? I'm glad you fucking think I'm stupid. Yeah, because little do you fucking know, I know fucking exactly what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:42

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:43

It is pre-planned, it is calculated, I know exactly what I'm gonna do. That's what I do.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:46

I call every scenario in my head, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

Okay, you go this way, and this is what I'm gonna do if it goes that way. And and listen, and I it it's so pre-planned to where, like, to the point to where I am a patient motherfucker, dude. I will wait for the scenario to fucking slide it different, like a puzzle piece. Yeah. For me to go, pow! Yeah, gotcha, bitch. Yeah, it's planned. It may not go and I don't set it up to be planned, but I go run through every scenario in my mind and how what direction it's gonna go. But you people don't know that I choose a direction it goes. Right. I pick. Yeah, you don't pick, I do. You may think you have, you may think you do, yeah. You may I may allow you to think you do because I want you to. Right. I want you to believe that you're in control. I want you to believe that it's your narrative, it's the way you want it to be, but it really isn't. Right. I'm I'm literally guiding you in the direction I want you in. Yep. And you want to believe that you're in control or you made it a certain way, and this situation is this way because of you, and blah blah blah. But if you really if if they were to take enough brain power, bro, you know what I mean? If they're taking enough brain power, dude, yeah, and look at like where where it ended up at and where it started, yeah, and you look at everything in between between, yeah, I dragged you to the point I wanted you at. Yeah, I put you exactly where I wanted you.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:11

Yeah, even like subconsciously, but that's the thing. You may not even realize it until after the fact you go, yo, that's why I but the point is like it comes together after the fact sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:21

Bro, there's there's a whole reason, dude, yeah, why I give people dumb looks like I don't know what you're saying. Right. There's a whole fucking reason why you see me fucking act like I don't know what you're talking about or not doing things like the way you wanted me to do it at that particular moment thing. There's a reason I'm not I'm not doing it fucking because I fucking don't know. Right. I'm doing it because I know because I know that what what action that I choose, yeah, I know what the reaction's gonna be. Yep. So with me knowing that, yeah, believe you're you're in the driver's seat, bro. Yeah, I want you to believe that. Yeah, because I want you to tell people I got so-and-so by the balls, blah blah blah. You would not believe what he did, and blah blah blah blah, and you wouldn't believe it, and I couldn't believe this is what he said, and like he got him now. He's so mad, and he's not even talking to me. Like, that's what I want, dude. Right. You think I'm doing these things for uh for fun? No, I'm doing it because it gives me peace. Yeah, to know that I could to know that I have enough to fuck your day up completely, dude. Yeah, by a simple simple by a by a simple comment, yeah, or to just shake your head and fucking laugh and walk away, to know that I have the control to fuck your day, week, or month up, that shit gives me pleasure, dude. Yeah, because you continue to believe that you're in control, right? And that you're running this shit out your way, and this is your plan, and it's how you want it, and blah, blah, blah. And ultimately at the end, bro, not to be mean, no matter which way the pendulum swings, dude. And this is what I mean about I hate saying it, how the way Leos work, yeah, okay, is that we put ourselves in a situation that it's never a lose-lose, it's always a win-win. Because, in like, for example, the situation about Cassandra right now, yeah. God's honest truth. Yeah, I'm not in her mind, bro, I'm gonna lose-lose with her, right? But I already know, bro, that I'm gonna win-win.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:25

Because there's only two things, two ways this works out, dude. Yeah, there's only two, and I don't lose in either one, right? Sick of the shit and you leave, I win. Yeah, peaceful house. No one's here, house ain't trash every day. It's peaceful. My place and it comes back in the living room and I'm cool, right? Or you stay, you know what I mean? And you get on the same page with me, and you want to work the relationship out, and everything's peaceful. So no matter which way the pendulum swings here, I win. You leave, our relationship is fixed. There's no but you want to know why she can go ahead and continue to believe that she's choosing to be here. She's choosing to make the relationship work. I want you to believe that. I I want you to. Because you can ask Quinn that to his face how many things I'm gonna call. You're stupid. Why do you act that way? You have no fucking brains in your fucking head. Are you fucking half retarded? Blah blah blah. I love it, dude. I live for that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:24

Because when you do it, I know I'm literally doing the exact right thing. Yeah, I know exactly the exact fucking right thing. And that's just the fucked up part. And Jesus, fuck Christ, I'm just gonna kill myself now for sure. You see what I did, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:36

Yeah, I got fucking.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:38

Yeah, fucking scratch off crushing. Fucking stupid fucking retard.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:44

Yeah, I I miss grandpa every day, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:46

I'm not gonna lie, though, dude, like I sometimes feel like a horrible fucking son.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:50

But you know, like kind of what we were talking about earlier. Uh in a way, I'm grateful that he's not around this day and age because he would hate it. Oh, he'd absolutely hated it. He fucking despised what this country has become.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:04

Well, I mean, for me, I mean, uh, there's moments where I feel like a fucking dog shit fucking child, though, dude. Yeah. Because like there's it's it's not necessary.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:12

See, like for me, I missed.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:14

I mean, but for now, I'm just saying, I'll say this because I know we gotta get up. We're running all wrong. But for me, I mean that dude, I mean there's zero reason, dude, and it sounds fucked up outside of like winter. Yeah, there's like no reason, dude, why I'm not up at the fucking cemetery fucking once a month.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:30

There's zero reason for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:32

And and and and that one out that shit's on me, dude. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like that that would that that's that's on me. I should be a little bit more proactive. What's fucking 15 minutes, dude?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:41

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

Even if I have to grab Quinn after school, you know what I mean, and run up for fucking 15 minutes, fucking say a prayer quick and be out. You know what I mean? Like that that that's I mean, there's moments, dude. But again, like you can verify even through fucking Cassandra and Quinn, dude, like it's fucking still very hard for me to go up there, dude. Yeah, because there hasn't been a single fucking time since that dude has passed away, bro, that I've gone up to that cemetery and I haven't cried like he just fucking died, dude. Yeah, every single time. Because I always get some fucked up memory, dude. Yeah, that's like that's like, damn, bro, like you were you were really, really, really, really fucking a fucking dickhead when it comes to advice, but it was always good. Yeah, you're a real asshole about it. Yeah, he never would never he would punch him in nice terms. He was dead right. No, he he would never steer you wrong. He might be fucked up in the way you put it. That's what I mean. And and I think that's another thing. Like, I get that shit from him too.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:32

I think I do too. Like I'm blunt with shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:35

I lack, dude. I'm I'll be dead for jail, bro. It's not there. Yeah. I mean, if that's the one thing I know if I'm missing in life, that's it. Yeah, like I can steer you in the right direction, dude, but I am horrible at how I say it, yeah, or how I word it. I am really bad at that. Yeah, like I think I'm getting better based on my job, because I have to. Yeah, you know what I mean? But like, but like when it comes to like like a family member or a child like asking for advice, I'm really it's really difficult.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:00

Because I know that I'm gonna give you the right advice, but I it it can be worded in a way where it comes out of me being a fuck real fucked up to you. You know what I mean? I don't want to be all that's fucked up.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:08

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:09

That's why a lot of times, like when I say shit to people, like when Isaiah asked me for advice or something like that, like I'll even I because I already know I'm gonna say it fucked up. Yeah, like I say it pre the statement. Yeah, yeah. Don't take this the wrong way, dude. Yeah. Because it's the only way I know how to say it. Yeah. And then I say it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:26

Because almost pre-warn you, because I already know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say it nicely. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? Like I told him, I said, bro, you're 22, your chick's 31.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:34

I understand it feels like a sugar mama, but she's the one taking advantage of you.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:37

Yeah, you're the sugar daddy. Yeah, sugar. You're the one making all the money.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:39

She works part-time and got three kids. Yeah. Like, and it's fuck it comes off fucked up, but I'm right. Yeah, you know what I mean? And look how look how it ended up. They ain't together anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:47

So I mean, and it wasn't like I was wrong. Right. You know what I mean? But well, I mean, I enjoyed it, dude. We got through half the fucking fucking one. I gotta buzz at the bitch, dude. That's just strong, bro. Yeah. 15 goosebumps.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:00

Goosebumps.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

But yeah, I mean, I enjoyed that one, dude. I know we kind of strayed off a poppy, but hey, again, we wanted to move all over the place. Well, it's kind of staying on top.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:09

It all is related to him, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

Yeah, the whole fucking race stuff and era, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:14

Yeah, yeah. So it all, you know, but yeah. Uh like I said, I I missed the dude, but in a way, I'm grateful he's not around to experience the country as it is now.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:24

I just want to see him beat up one more person, dude. That's it. This one. One more, one more person. Him walking into a fucking house on Campbell Street, dude. That's the thing, yo. He'd walk into motherfuckers' houses, bro. Dude, like I said, I'll I'll just want quick like 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:38

Back then, the people either front doors like locked. There's nothing to be like afraid, you're not afraid of your neighbor. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:42

Bro, this was uh this is a quick like 40 second thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and Jill are riding our bikes in fucking on Campbell Street, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:49

And fucking, we would fucking like the bigger curves we'd go out and make them like jumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:55

So we were going off them, and then we'd go back, and I'd be like, Oh, I wonder, you know, because the angle's different if we go up it and like over the lawn or whatever. Yeah. So I remember going up and I hit the curve and I fucked up and I landed on this dude's lawn and we went, and then Jill went, fucking, she landed on the lawn and went. And we looped back around, bro. And this dude came out the house and was fucking screaming like, get off my motherfucking lawn, I'll kick your motherfucking ass. You come on my fucking property again, you little motherfuckers, screaming and yelling, bro. And we fucking pedaled mad fast away because we're young and shit. Oh shit's gonna hit us, dude. Yeah, yeah. So we fly down the fucking street, we go in the fucking backyard, and Poppy's doing another change on the station wagon. Yeah, and he sees us like flying up the driveway. He's like, What the fuck's going on? Yeah, and we were like, Oh, so and so said he was gonna fucking beat up, fucking hit us and shit. If we went on his fucking laundry, and he was like, Who? And we told him who it was, bro. We planted the fucking house, we went on the driveway, pointed at the fucking house, and he's walked up the street fast as fuck, dude. Yeah, and we're on our bikes just kind of coasting because he's Wally Walking, so staying with him, dude. He goes up the stairs, opens up the fucking door, dude, goes in the house, says, Oh, you want to fucking hit my motherfucking? I've threatened to hit my motherfucking kids, you fucking piece of fucking shit. Just here's Shit, fucking smashing and breaking and shit. Comes out the fucking house, bro. Casually turns his fucking head, dude. Looks at fucking me and Jill and goes, He ain't gonna say anything about you being on his lawn again. I'm going to finish the car. He beat that dude up in his own fucking house, bro. Walked out like he fucking had lunch with the guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:21

Looked at this, goes, Oh, he ain't gonna he ain't gonna say shit about you being on his lawn again. Go ahead and have fun, kids. Wow. And went home, finished the fuck oil change and went to go fucking.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:28

That was the thing with him. Like, see like I was gonna say earlier, like I missed just when I was born, because at that point he wasn't really drinking, at least when I started forming memories.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:39

You were remembering, yeah. He was still drinking when you were born. Right, right. But like he would get fucked up and try to beat up fucking like Dave Kaiser and shit, dude. He would fucking beat people up all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:47

I missed out on the violent era of him. I got like the the verbal shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:53

You know, I think you see glimpses where you knew that it would happen if he was younger. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Like with that dude from down the street. Yeah, yeah. Dude, he was about to go, he's about to throw it out, this fucking guy, bro. It was all over. Because you guys said something about his wife called calling her fat or something, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:08

Yeah. Because she she said something to me, and I called her a fat slav or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:14

See, I won't for the only reason why I will never forget that day, dude, is because Mikey called my house. And he was like, dude, he goes, I don't know what's going on, bro. He goes, but the fucking dude down the street's like in your fucking father's face, bro. Yeah, on the corner. He said, he's he said, are you near here? I said, dude, I'm all the way in East Utica, bro. Yeah. He goes, how fast can you get? I said, not fast enough. Some pops off. Yeah, right. He goes, I'll just stay home then, dude. He goes, that guy goes, he goes, he goes, I'm gonna stand here and watch. Yeah, he goes, he fucking touches your father. I'm gonna beat his motherfucking ass. He touches your fucking father, bro. He goes, because your dad ain't never fucking bothered anybody on the block. Right. And he's standing up for fucking Joshua and then I ain't gonna let shit. He goes he goes out, he goes, just stay home. He goes, anything happened, I'll let you know. Yeah, and that was the that was the one day, dude, where I was like, me and Mikey were never best friends, dude. Yeah, but the one thing I will always, always for the rest of my life, always give that dude credit for is that whether it was me and or him, we always for some unknown reason had each other's fucking back for some fucking unknown fucking reason. It was always weird, like I said, me and Mikey would play together. Yeah, we would hang out, we'd go play video games. We weren't we were friends, we weren't best friends, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:17

But it was so weird that like if he had an issue, dude, and I was around, I had his back.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:22

If I had an issue and he was around, he had my back. Yeah, my dad had an issue, he had my fucking he dude, he had my back and I wasn't even around. Right. So in all actuality, dude, I kind of wish I was a little closer to Mikey, dude, because he had loyalty on another level, bro. Yeah, like a whole nother level, dude. Shout out to Mikey Mitchell.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:39

I wanted to show you this before we get off. Craft is launching an airport-friendly ranch packets after World Cup fans become so obsessed with the trusting that TSA had to issue a warning. Yeah, but that's what I'm telling you. They're only allowing a certain amount for them to bring back. Includes enough ranch packets to replace an entire bottle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:55

So they're giving them like Yeah, they're giving them travel ones because they only get it supporting a certain amount. Yeah. But that's what I mean. They fell in the buttons fucked up is that the fuck's up with the ranch, bro? I'm a fucking blue cheese dude, bro. Like, I like dude, don't get me wrong. If it ain't hidden valley, I ain't fucking with it. Right, yeah, hidden valley's got a lot. Well, them, them and Ken's. Ken's is fucking good shit, though. Well, Ken's has got a good one, but Ken's blue cheese smacks. Does it? Yeah, because they're big chunks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got the little shredded chunks, the craft and shots.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:23

They got the tonkers.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:24

Yeah, but like that's what I like. But like I I think I I get it because blue cheese is a preferred.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:30

It's a preference thing with the fucking with the fucking blue cheese. But fucking the ranch, I get it because they don't have it. You know what I mean? Like, I understand. It's a delicacy, but like, yeah, it's like fuck, yeah, it's like fucking, you know, fucking going to you ain't gonna get fucking shark fin soup in America. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, we gotta end it because we keep going. Yeah, all right, man, it was a great episode, bro. We should do more under the influence. It's fun. Yeah. But all right, man, it was a great episode. All right, see you next week. RIP poppy, peace. Later, y'all.