All right, let's do the thing, shall we? Hey, coming up this week, the beginning of the end, the beginning of the rebellion and the beginning of the third thing that I couldn't come up with. So, plus, we've got our top five picks for the most hated Star Wars characters in the galaxy. We've got all that and pull this up because I still don't know what I'm doing, because this is all brand new. But there we go, all right. Hey there, star warriors, welcome to star wars. Safe space, your non-toxic, low sodium star wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that asajj ventress was, uh, supposed to be in attack of the clones but was cut when christopher lee signed up to play count dooku. How cool would that have been. A live action asajj, can you imagine?
Speaker 2:her and mcregor going back and forth.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course I can. Of course I can, but who would have played her? That's something else we can talk about. That's a whole other show. So, whether you're a hardcore Star Wars fan or just a little, this is your Star Wars safe space. We are the Circle of Nerds and we do, in fact, love Star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So, uh, let's meet the Circle of Nerds. Shall we Push this button here? Slide this guy over here. Hey, it's the pilot of the infamous Parmaflyer Crash.
Speaker 2:How you doing. Everybody S-foils locked, ready to go. We got a whole new season.
Speaker 1:Let's go. I know right, I'm excited, super excited, and hailing from parts unknown, it's T to the oni oni.
Speaker 3:Welcome back to the galaxy, Everybody.
Speaker 1:Let's get it going yeah, let's do the thing. And I'm Tommy D and we are excited, alright. So what are we doing here on this show? Well, it's our mission to watch all of the Canon star Wars films and TV shows in chronological order. Uh, we're gonna be breaking them down, connecting the dots and learning a bit more about star Wars, and maybe even a little about ourselves along the way. So a word of warning to all you would be star warriors out there. There will be spoilers, so do be prepared for that. That's why we do try to give you some homework at the end of each episode. Let you know what to watch. That way, you know, we're not spoiling too much for you along the way.
Speaker 1:First, we have our own Facebook group. So, if you want, just look for the Facebook group called Swarzy Curious, and someday I'll have a little thing that pops up on here like bring that shows the Swarzy Curious thing. But I don't have that right now because I'm ill prepared, as per usual, but anyway, shouldn't be too hard to find. We're the only Star Wars group out there called Swarzy Curious, so S-W-A-r-s-y curious, uh, so, yeah, so in the news there's uh, there's a few things do you guys want to discuss, uh, some of the stuff that's going on, because I know there's um well, the big thing is sort of where the news is that we're about to get a whole bunch of news out in Japan, you know if you want to start there, because that's really where the big momentum is going.
Speaker 2:Indeed.
Speaker 1:Are you going?
Speaker 2:No go ahead, fire away. You had something earlier. We were kind of hinting.
Speaker 1:No, I'm adding. Were you going? Are you going to? No, for once, I'm not going to Star.
Speaker 2:Wars. It was a no for once I'm not going to a Star Wars A little out of range for a Y-Wing. I've been to London for the last one and I'm kind of hoping that they're going to announce something in the States again in like a year or two, maybe around the time of a Rey movie. Be nice. But yeah, japan was just a little out of the budget and a lot of people I've talked to that's kind of like the grind is like I'd love to.
Speaker 1:I'll watch the live streams, but yeesh, yeah yeah, it's a bit much, but you know what, to be honest, you know we're we're gonna be so big with this, uh, this podcast. We're gonna get invited next time. We're gonna get the email say hey, star warriors, star wars, safe space, we want you to come out and host a panel, all explicitly yeah, we'll get lucasfilm to put the bill I say we do a show from there.
Speaker 1:That'd be hilarious, that'd be great, of course, I think that would be great. We, we absolutely have to do that, so I don't know. So there's, there is a lot of stuff going on um 10-year anniversary of the force awakens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my god, I'm so old we're all a bunch of matt damonifs of us slowly morphing into our own selves, oh geez. Not only is it First Awakens but they announced the anniversary for Revenge of the Sith and it's getting a theatrical re-release coming up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm looking forward to that I remember I was in charge of the local Cleveland Fan Force chapter. We were camped out, I was doing all the local. I think we hit every TV station, local Cleveland fan force chapter. We were camped out, I was doing all the local. I think we hit every TV station. It's like 10 o'clock news press hit. We were there, we had stormtroopers and filled the theater. It was a great time because we thought this was going to be like the last Star Wars. Everybody was just sort of like soaking it all in. And then a few years later, you know, when they announced the sequel trilogy, it's like okay, we're going to keep going, let's roll.
Speaker 1:And then you've got the really seasoned folks like myself, who saw A New Hope in theaters when it came out and we thought Jedi would be the last.
Speaker 2:We never, ever imagined that it would go beyond jedi I, you know, I I've talked about my sister and how we're 10 years apart and she's a prequel baby. She grew up as a as a star wars fan during the prequels and I mean I, yeah, there was a time where I'd explain her like there were these three movies that nerds like us worshipped, and that was it. And you just had these three VHS tapes and you ran out of the death and you memorized every line and then, all of a sudden, george said, hey, the technology is where I want it to be. Let's do it again. Let's do that backstory. Well, we got the special editions. We got the special editions.
Speaker 1:The special editions.
Speaker 2:We got the special edition yeah, and that was sort of like the, the okay, it's almost like a test drive, a beta test, yeah, and speaking of which special edition of return of the jedi released today back in, I think it was 97 today, on this day, yeah, oh man oh, that's cool, tony. You're taking me back, brother, you know what we should do.
Speaker 1:We need to. We need to have like a this day in star wars history, sort of thing, or this week in star wars history.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna make that a segment for the show yeah, do a little bit of research, a little bit, you know, like week by week. Yeah, because there's just so many things that you know, like you know, the special editions were great. Yeah, I know some people don't like them because they want the pure original. You know, a lot of people think they know george lucas's vision better than you know people who work for george lucas. But but it's like, look, you know, we were just happy to see star wars on a big screen and I think for even the prequel babies. You know, revenge of the s was kind of a big deal. It's my least favorite star Wars movie and I say that I mean I love it. But if you, you know, when you, if you do rank 13 movies and the I count clone Wars theatrical, it's like, well, yeah, I love it, but it's the one where the bad guys win and all the Jedi younglings get slaughtered.
Speaker 1:We're putting that at the bottom of the list. That goes at the bottom of the list, for sure.
Speaker 2:But I still love that. Fight between Ewan and Hayden was just epic.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean there was a lot of really epic moments. I mean, in all of the prequel films there were a lot of really epic moments. But George said that the reason that a lot of the original trilogy fans didn't like the prequels is because they didn't grow up with it, so they didn't have that nostalgia factor attached to it I'm living proof, like I said snips and I, that there's just this generational gap.
Speaker 2:some, a lot of people like myself, you know, sort of embrace the new, but there were some guys that just wanted to be the star Wars trivial pursuit champ of their childhood. And the cycle's repeating now with the sequels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like I've I've grown to appreciate it over the years, appreciate the prequels, um, I've I've grown to enjoy them, but at the side. But but so we've we, you know, we've talked about the fandom menace. You know, especially once acolyte came out, I mean, that was just like that was, I would say, the rise of the modern phantom menace or a fandom menace. But it wasn't the first appearance of them. When, when the uh, the special editions came out, I mean, that was the first time, like people, people always say star wars is dead, star wars is dead, but ain't dead yet. Um, but it was when the special editions came out. That was the first time star wars died was when the special editions came out, because people absolutely hated them. They're like this isn't my star wars, it's, you know, because they're, they're purists. How dare you?
Speaker 2:how dare you make the space battles look slick. And you know those models were innovative. Yeah, back in the 70s, yeah, but I mean it's still great, I still watch the unedited version.
Speaker 2:there's a dvd copy they put out a couple years back that had the special edition. Like the special edition is sort of a misnomer, that's that movie's been tinkered with so many different times. Every time they put out a new print they tinker with things. But they have a great copy if you can find it. On the DVD that has the special edition of the most current version they had with the little tweaks that you've got to watch for, and then a second disc with the unedited original version and sometimes it's fun to go back and watch that. I'm not one of those guys that are like I have my laser disc and that's all I. That's my true story. Relax, man. I like the CGI, x-wings and TIE Fighters. I love the models. That was my childhood. I still got the old Kenner TIE Fighter and X-Wing Right on, but when those new space battles came in, that was just sexy to watch.
Speaker 1:It was nice. It was nice. And you know you bring up LaserDisc. I'm glad you brought that up because you know these young whippersnappers today. They'll never know the pain of having to upgrade your media collection every time a new type of media comes out. You know you've got. You've got the original trilogy box set, vhs tapes, and then like every few years they had like a re-release with like different box art on it. So you had to get those. But then and dvds came out like shit. Okay, now I gotta get, now I gotta get the, get the DVD versions because the higher definition is better resolution. All right, cool, that's great, awesome.
Speaker 1:So now you've got this huge, fucking gigantic wall of DVDs and then Blu-ray comes out. You're like, oh my God, it's like how many thousands of dollars has the average Star Wars? And not even like a hardcore fan I'm not even talking about people doing with the collectibles, but people that just get the movies. How many thousands of dollars have we given to lucasfilm over the years just up, upgrading our library, you know? And then they come out with the collector's editions, like the, the nine disc box set with commentary, and the, the art book, and it's just like. And then when the prequels came out. Now you've got the six disc collector's edition with all six movies and which I thought let me ask.
Speaker 2:I want to ask this because I again my my perspective is a little wider ranging did you see the special editions and when they came out, or did you watch them when they came on TV or on video?
Speaker 3:so my father figure what, was into Star Wars, so we saw them in theaters. Okay, I mean I was 14 years old, but it was. Yeah, I obviously had seen the original trilogy, of course, by then, so watching the special editions was a lot of fun. At the time again, I was still relatively young, so there were little things where I could see like, okay, just the difference in overall quality of the cinematography and all that stuff Graphically, whatnot, but as far as changes in dialogue and little cuts here and there, I wouldn't have been familiar enough to be able to pinpoint those things and be like, oh, this is a funny story.
Speaker 2:I was at Kent State go Flashes working at the campus TV station and when the special editions came out, we got a copy of the press kit. Now, if you think of video production, guys, we're all. We're all just a bunch of nerds, and most of them are want to be film students, of course. Oh, that press kit came in and we we grabbed is this three quarter inch beta tape and ran down to the edit bay. You would think like the girls were laughing at us. Grabbed this three-quarter-inch beta tape and ran down to the edit bay. You would think like the girls were laughing at us because like 20 guys tried to cram into this little phone booth-sized edit suite to watch this tape and they were like I'll never forget Amy said this. They were like you guys look like you just got your first Playboy.
Speaker 2:I mean, guys were like leaning over shoulders, looking around just to get a glimpse at, you know, because they were talking about the upgraded effects and especially like the way they improved, like the Bespin scenes and the approach to the city. It wasn't a map painting, it had flow and you had dimensions. That was some of my favorite parts about the special edition was that the things they could upgrade the space battles, the scenery in some places like bespin, that was just like it was next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah time, at that time it was next level and it's fun. It's fun to go back and watch the original trilogy in its original form, you know, and then watch the special editions and watch some of the the more upgraded versions. It's just it's fun to see that and and to see george lucas's vision like actually come to life and take shape and it's, you know, kind of the way that he wanted it to be. Um, and with that being said, speaking of george lucas, uh, april 18th on disney plus, I'm very excited about this. If you haven't seen light magic yet, if you're a star wars fan at all, or even if you are just swarzy curious, like we say, um, light magic is a great, great, great behind the scenes documentary. So if you have, you guys, seen it yet, yeah, oh, and that's yeah.
Speaker 2:I grew up, yeah, like I said, I went into video production because I could. I wasn't cool enough to go to film school but I loved working, you know, with cameras and with you know, even during the original trilogy, I always had those special um behind the behind the scenes like I think carrie fisher hosted one and they'd show you how they made the ad ads work. And so I used to do that.
Speaker 1:Like I got a stop motion camera one year for a class and I was like I took my ad toy in the middle of blizzard and just did the old trump and the ad ad back and forth, of course, and that's what you did, you know, you, you, you know, we got our action figures and we got our legos and things like that and we recreated all that stuff you know, with, like, you had a stop motion camera. I had an old, uh shoulder mounted vhs camera and it was like literally like push, play, move it, push, pause, like push play, push, and it was just it was so bad. But then when you run it back, you're just like, oh my god, this is the coolest thing ever. Like, oh my god, but all right, so this season we're gonna be talking about season five of the clone wars. Uh, obviously, we just wrapped up season four. That was a roller coaster ride of emotion and we're not done yet.
Speaker 1:Um, season five is packed with, uh, with goodness, and it's a short. It's a short season. The seasons just continue to get shorter and shorter from here on out, unfortunately. But, uh, we've got, uh, I think it's made of like four or five arcs. I, I think there's it's just basically multiple four episode arcs throughout the entire season and, uh, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1:This is for anyone who's an Ahsoka fan. This is going to be next level for you. This is going to be if you haven't seen it, if you've not seen season five yet, and I really hope that a lot of the people watching and listening are going on this journey with us, having not seen these things or maybe having gone years without seeing some of the things that we're going to be watching, because I I really envy the people that are are seeing this for the first time. I wish I could experience these these episodes again for the first time, but my brain is shot so I forgotten so much it's almost like I'm seeing it again for the first time. So that works, but, um, yeah, crash. I know you've seen season five, tony. Have you seen season five?
Speaker 3:I have not okay, so you're in?
Speaker 2:no, I've not seen it all right, you're in for a treat, and if you, tony, last time we were talking about this, the two-parter from the previous season introduced Darth Maul and Savage pairing up. This season debuted at Star Wars Celebration in Orlando midsummer. They aired the last two episodes of the previous season and the first episode of this season Red carpet, you know, premiere style event. They had, you know, top level cosplayers out there Bo-Katan, darth Maul. You know they were really getting ready to hype this season because they, you know I feel like the show had really latched on to the audience and a lot of that negativity at the beginning about being, oh, this is just a kid's cartoon. Dave put that to rest last year, as you saw, and it was really exciting to watch a hype for a show, a Star Wars show, animated or live action. It's funny that you say they're essentially just clusters of mini episode arcs, because that's what Andor's doing this season with season two, yes, three episodes and they're going to jump a year and then do another three.
Speaker 1:And they're nestled in with rebels.
Speaker 1:As I was redoing our roadmap for Andor, they're falling in between uh episodes of of uh rebels yep so, once we get to rebels, we're gonna watch andor, of course, and we're gonna, we're gonna talk about andor, but once we, once we get to rebels, uh, we'll be revisiting andor season two, because we're gonna watch andor season one before we hit rebels, um, but then, as we're watching rebels and talking about rebels on the show, we're gonna be revisiting and or season two because of the way that it's like, like, if you go to the wiki, um, they've just got like placeholder episodes in right now because they don't want to put any spoilers out, right, but it's like, oh man, it's just, it's so exciting, it's so exciting, but and or makes me want to get arrested I understand that and or makes me want to get arrested.
Speaker 1:saw, guerrera makes me want to get arrested, like and like we talked about. I think we talked about this last time. Saw is I get it? I get it. I see where you're coming from now, my guy.
Speaker 2:Not to give too much away, but we're going to see the seeds of that in this season of Clone Wars. We are I was a big Sawgriar, I'm still a big Saw fan, but yeah, especially in this part of the timeline, as you're going to see, because you saw, you know, rogue one had come out. I think it broke, wanted to come out already, yeah, and it was just one of those things where it's like, okay, there's this dude and he's like super militant on the rebel side, but you also go this dude and he's like super militant on the rebel side, but you also go, brother's got a point, he's got a point, he's got a point.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna see, which is exciting too, we're gonna see um saw as a young man. You know, before before he's quote-unquote radicalized and I don't even I don't want to call saw radicalized, I want to say that he was normalized, you know it's. He saw despises the empire like to his core, as do most people in the galaxy, but his hatred is it comes from a different place and we get to see the, the birth of that. We get to see the birth of, like dark side, saw Gerrera and, you know, get more understanding, like we did with with Dooku. You know, when we were looking at uh, tales of the Jedi, you know we got a little more insight into Dooku and maybe a little, maybe we get a little more sympathy for him now a little bit.
Speaker 1:You know and saw a lot more sympathy for that guy. But we're going to see that. Tony, you're going to have fun. This is going to be a great season. Oh sure, we get to see some, we get to see the beginning of of saw, we get to see incredible growth from ahsoka. This is without, without spoilers. I would say and and crash. Let me know what you think here too. But I would say this is such a major, major turning point moment for ahsoka here in season five oh this, this was huge.
Speaker 2:This was I. My sister and I we drive, we drive around a lot together and like there were times where my right shoulder hurts because something happens with ahsoka and and all of a sudden she's just punching me in the arm, this was I don't want to overstate it, I don't want to get too reaction video crazy about this, but this was not originally going to be the final season, so we didn't find out until after the season had ended that the show was canceled.
Speaker 1:The license on it had expired.
Speaker 2:Right and it was part of the Disney sale and they were talking about moving into a new direction. Ie Rebels, so we thought this was it. But going into the season, I mean Dave took some big swings, big swings and Ahsoka's heart and center of a lot, of, a lot of them- well, that's his baby.
Speaker 1:I mean his child. I mean even he loves, he loves wolf and rex and the wolf pack. Ahsoka is his baby. I mean, he obviously clearly she's got her own freaking live action series. You know, and you know the rebels characters. Those are his babies as well, because ahsoka, the live action is basically just season 4.5, well, season 5 of rebels, basically so. But I I gotta say I'm excited. I'm excited because I haven't seen these episodes in years, um, and tony's never seen them.
Speaker 2:I'm I remember them, but I I remember vividly watching that last, that final episode of season five, and then finding out that that's it, that was a wrap there's a thing and I won't give it away for for tony um, there's a thing that happens and actually Eckstein tells this great story at her panels that they had to have everybody else out of the recording room, just her and Matt and Dave, just to direct. They hit, record, the engineers do their thing and they just let the three of them cook in solitude, because this season's going to really shake up the three of them cook in solitude because this season's gonna really shake up the core of what those two are that Dave has built up in this show. You can kind of guess, because if you've seen the movies, we don't see Ahsoka.
Speaker 3:The live action. It's mentioned that she stepped away, so there's presumably something happened.
Speaker 2:I just don't know what Something happens and she steps away. Oh, something happens, all right. And it's literally gut-wrenching end of the arc, kind of like. That's it. You leave us with that.
Speaker 1:You want to talk about like a cliffhanger. You want to talk about like a cliffhanger. It like millions of of star Wars nerds cried out and were suddenly silenced. It was. It felt like that. It felt like the death star had just fired it's super laser into my heart.
Speaker 2:when, when season five wrapped up and that's what we're about to dive into, and again a lot of that had to do with the lucas selling to disney and and the shift in the timeline getting reset, uh, officially for licensing, you know, right, all the eu stuff had to get like turned to legends it's not official canon, because they were, you know. They didn't want to pin themselves into a corner where we can't do any new shows or movies unless it adheres to these old, these books that have been out.
Speaker 2:And there's licensing and author rights and there's all sorts of but Dave, but Dave yeah, Dave, Dave was already cooking with clone wars and it was like you know, you could tell that at some point they just said, okay, you have all these like things, these things you want to lay down the road as potential storylines, and we're done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so thankfully, oh, and also, as as I was doing my research for this, there are, um, there are these other episodes that I have not seen, um, and they're uh, they're prelude episodes that uh, um, there are the they're the unfinished episodes, and these unfinished episodes take place between season six and seven. Uh, there's four of them. I've not seen any of them, so we might have to dive into those. Have you seen them? They're really rough, they're. They look like really bad, like like late 90s cg type of type of stuff I don't remember enough about the actual storyline of them.
Speaker 2:I've seen clips. I think they were going to do, I think one centered around I think all four of them are to do with Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Speaker 2:Obi-Wan. I'm trying to remember Sinkhole Planet. Where was that place called? I think one took place. Sinkhole Planet, vengeance of the Sith. Where was that place called? Utapau, utapau, I think it took place on Utapau. Yeah, I think you're right, and it was like you could see from the artwork they were kind of hinting that Obi-Wan was familiar with this place because of something that happened Sith. But that was one of the beauties of Clone Wars is that they could take things we saw in the movies and for a brief second, like Felucia. How many times have we been to Felucia?
Speaker 1:And that's a fan favorite. We got to see that in Force Unleashed. I think we go to Force Unleashed. That's always a fan favorite. Again, no spoilers. But one of the most heartbreaking of the Jedi deaths takes place on Felucia. It was just brutal. This is why I love Star Wars. This is why it's just Okay.
Speaker 1:So season five, coming up very excited for this. Um, like I said, we're gonna see some big arcs in this, we're gonna see some major shifts in characters that we've grown to love at this up to this point, and we're gonna get. If you thought your hearts were broken in season four, just just prepare yourself for even more emotional trauma in season five. It just doesn't. Nothing gets easier. I I'm between now and season seven, nothing, because we're, we're, we're just slowly spiraling, you know, spiraling, spiraling into the fall of Anakin Skywalker, you know, I mean, that's what that's what all of this is is going towards. We're just circling. We're circling the drain now, at this point, as we get closer and closer to revenge of the set. Um, and it's just not going end. It's just not a happy place, it's just, it's just not. And I'm sorry to say that it's great, it's great television, but we are, we are not going to be getting any happiness and I think that's kind of why this show has endured as long as it has a lot of ips.
Speaker 2:Get a cartoon network limited series. You know they want to. You know a popular movie. I think even the god awful green lantern movie got an animated spin-off. I just think it's a spin-off at some point.
Speaker 1:I recently saw that it's not that bad it's not it's not that bad. Why I don't I? I mean, some of the CG is garbage, but it wasn't terrible it's not.
Speaker 2:The universe likes to declare certain movies flops and whatnot. We've been through that with Star Wars, Disney's. Obviously everybody loves calling something a flop if you want to make yourself look good, if you want to make yourself look good.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the point is, anything with a sci-fi IP anymore gets a spin-off cartoon series to try to appeal to kids. Hell, ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters cartoon. You watch the original Bill Murray movie and then you go. There's certain scenes where you're like you marketed this to kids. Dan Aykroyd in a ghost, I won't say anything more.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's that, but I don't know. Season five it's going to be great and I am so looking forward to it, so it's going to be a good ride, all right, so we talked about this a little bit at the beginning. Top five most hated Star Wars film and TV characters in the galaxy. I have my top five laid out. Does somebody want to go first? Or do you want to yell at me about my top five first?
Speaker 2:I'll defer to the second half. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:All right, Tony. What about you? You want to go first or you want to yell at me about my top five?
Speaker 3:I I'm not gonna yell too much top five, but I'll let you play it out all right.
Speaker 1:So, and in no particular order, these are, me personally, my top five most hated star wars characters. Not even necessarily that I hate them, because one of them on this list I don't hate and I actually love, but it's just a hated character. So at the top of my list, general Pong Krell. General Pong Krell because fuck that guy.
Speaker 2:Oh all right, and we saw that on that when we were reviewing that episode. He's just yeah, it was a brilliant performance and you hate his guts.
Speaker 1:You hate his guts. Hate his guts. Um. Number two good old papa palpatine. Okay, hey, I was, I was gonna go with snoke, but snoke is such a non-issue, throwaway character that I just I can't hate him. He's just, he's just too goofy to hate.
Speaker 1:But palpatine, again, he's just. You almost love to hate him, though you know he is this, but he's just, he's such a douche like. He's just like he's, he's like an internet troll before the internet existed. And I feel like, uh, there's this, there's this guy that he's a. He's like, you know, the poster boy of the fandom menace. You know we don't say his name, but, um, yeah, fuck that guy. But I feel like that particular guy, the guy that talks about all of his star wars theories. I feel like he. He likes to pretend that he's darth vader, but he's palpatine, he is 100 palpatine, like, without question. And so, yeah, palpatine's my number two top five most hated film and tv characters from star wars.
Speaker 1:Number three, and this is probably going to be a hot take and I'm ready for it. If you guys want to come at me, come at me For those of you watching. If you want to come at me in the comments. Let's go, I'm ready for it. Look Tony's over there cracking his knuckles. I'm ready. Number three most hated character in Star Wars Anakin Skywalker Hate that guy hated character in star wars anakin skywalker.
Speaker 1:Hate that kid. Anakin skywalker, number three most hated. Nothing you can do on that, let me just let me just pause real quick here.
Speaker 3:Okay, I want to make sure we're talking about the character and not the actor, jake, lloyd or christiansen no, I am always talking about the character, okay I will do that okay, I will.
Speaker 1:I will never, ever, ever disparage an actor, ever, ever, ever, ever, because jake and and hayden got so much hate personally. They got hate personally. So, no, I will never, ever do that. The actors did their jobs. The actors did what they were paid to do. Okay, if, if the, the character was garbage, if the dialogue was garbage, that's not, that's not the actor's fault. So I have, I have, nothing but love and respect for all of the star wars actors, every single one of them, all of them. I have no personal animosity or hatred towards any of them. In fact, I have more love and respect for the actors that did get shit on, for the characters that they portrayed.
Speaker 3:Let me be clear. I already know that that was going to be your answer, but that's because we've had private conversations. I just want to make sure for our audience that they understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, like when Hayden was at. He was at one of the celebrations and he came out and the way that he was greeted by the crowd and he almost cried, like you could feel that love for him. That was.
Speaker 2:Anaheim. I was there, yeah, okay, and that love was palpable, yeah, especially when he came out with Ewan and the two of them came out together. Uh, because again, it was just the rise of the prequel baby, and it was just. It was like everybody, the prequel trilogy is starting to get their flowers, as the kids like to say, um, and I feel like, if you know, john daisy, oscar, if you, you know, your time will come in a few years. I feel like where, once the internet trolls like, move on to the next thing to harass that the people that love the sequel trilogy will come out in force and really build up the fact that, yeah, there were people that liked this movie. They just don't have that guy's following.
Speaker 1:And you know, and I'll tell you, with the sequels, they were okay for me. I didn't hate them. I'm not going to shit on the sequels, they weren't my favorite of all the films, but I think every single one of these new actors like you said, daisy, john, oscar they all did an amazing job. They all did an amazing job. They did as good or better than the original trilogy cast, than the prequel trilogy cast. Now, maybe we didn't like the storyline, maybe we didn't like Luke throwing his lightsaber over his shoulder or whatever. We're going to get to that, if I don't forget Mara Jade, mara Jade, don't let me forget Mara Jade. I want to talk about Mara Jade, don't let me forget. Okay, jade, don't let me forget. Mara jade, I want to talk about mara jade, don't let me forget, okay.
Speaker 1:So all of the actors have, I think, done extraordinary uh work. And is it oscar winning performances? No, not at all, but is it at least on par or better than the star wars standard 100? So, to all the star Wars actors out there, we love you, we appreciate you and and thank you, thank you for bringing these characters to us that we hate, like Anakin Skywalker. So, so, anakin Skywalker, I have many reasons to hate Anakin Skywalker. I think probably the baby murder is the, the child murder is probably the biggest. But also he was just such a whiny twit in the films and I just was oh God, you're killing me. But our Lord and Savior Dave did redeem young Skywalker in the Clone Wars, so I'm happy about that still and an ahsoka like and an ahsoka yeah hayden was bawling in that show and he was just a ghost he was just a ghost, right?
Speaker 1:so yeah, he was. Yeah, he definitely brought him back. But but again, that's dave putting the clone wars anakin spin on it and that's. You know, that wasn't my anakin, but it became my anakin. My anakin, um, you know, I think my anakin was, you know, the, the, the prequel trilogy and then the micro series, but clone wars anakin. Maybe maybe I need to preface this and say I'm, I'm cool with clone wars anakin. Maybe maybe I need to preface this and say I'm, I'm cool with clone wars anakin. All right, I'm gonna have to. I'll have to amend my hatred for the anakin skywalker character and I'll just say you hated.
Speaker 1:What he became is what you're saying uh, yeah, I I did, but again it's not, and we we've come to understand that it's not his fault. You know, anakin was absolutely shaped by the Jedi and Palpatine. He was a tool that was used. He was basically the kid in between, stuck in between the divorced parents, basically, you know. So he he never had the opportunity to really come into himself and become the man or the jedi that he probably could have been. So but anyway, for me, anakin skywalker, we'll say episode two and three, anakin skywalker, because episode one, you know, he's a baby, he's a little kid and he was a badass. Anakin skywalker in phantom menace was a fucking hardcore badass, like I mean, for being nine. What nine years old, I think was his age yeah so that's my number three most hated.
Speaker 1:Number four most hated moth gideon, oh and played.
Speaker 2:So well, that was played very well well evil. That was that guy was. He was good he really.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know he he's cool. I mean he's just super cool, super smooth. You know, um, and what was it? Uh, I can't remember the actor's name, esposito right, how cool is he? I mean he's just like. He's just freaky smooth. I mean he's like he's like billy d williams level smooth, but but chilling. He's like the. He's like the dark side version of billy d, because he's just chilling.
Speaker 1:Every character he does is like there's no warmth there. I'm just like like this guy and moff gideon, what a dick like, what a freaking dick that guy was. And he, he like he co-opted mandorian culture and the armor and it's just like, dude, you suck, you suck. And he was kind of a Nancy boy. I mean he really wasn't even that good. I mean he can't fight. It was just the armor that really gave him the ups that he needed. But other than that he's a punk, he's a little Nancy boy. So, no, I'm off Gideon. And then, finally, number five, most hated character in Star Wars film and television, and not for the reasons that you may think Jar Jar Binks, jar Jar film and television and not for the reasons that you may think jar, jar, binks jar jar binks is the secret sith lord is the secret sith lord, and so I don't hate jar jar binks.
Speaker 1:I think for the reason that many people hated jar jar binks because he was a goofball and you know whatever he made me laugh, that's fine. But I hate jar jar binks because he was a goofball and you know whatever he made me laugh, that's fine. But I hate jar jar binks because of the of the missed potential, of the missed opportunities, because we never get to see him grow to his full sith potential, and that's what and that's what I hate about it is that you had me go.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, yeah, there's some room for growth from jar jar's emotional depth. And then you go right into the lego like dark jar.
Speaker 1:I was like no, no, it was he he had. He had all these things in the palms of his hands and he just just fitted it all the way, or did he? Or did he? Maybe it's still part of his plan. Maybe we're gonna see this later on. Now he's just laying low, but anyway, those are my top five. Those are my top five most hated characters. Now there's I have others from the the eu and in the books and things like that, but this is just for films and television, because I could talk about other people. I was gonna I was gonna put thrawn on this list, but I don't hate thrawn. I really I dig that guy, like I. He's uh, he's creepy and he's smarmy, but uh, I kind of admire him he has his own army.
Speaker 2:He's got his own army. He's got his own army.
Speaker 1:He's got his own army, and not only does he have his own army, but they're very crafty, they're very skilled. They were able to put their armor pieces back together. They made some really cool Roman masks out of them. I mean, you're stranded for 30 years, so I suppose you got nothing else to do but learn how to do armor arts and crafts.
Speaker 2:So they were just kind of having armor parties all the time. I guess I I know enough guys from the 501st that like as soon as I saw all those taped up armor piece, I was like, okay, like jay, if you're watching, like brother, my brother jay could give like a master class and patching up gear on the fly to those guys like how many, how many tks out there like have have had to buy new pieces or you know, like use the, you know the plastic solder to to put their pieces back together.
Speaker 1:And then they see this and they're like wait, what, what?
Speaker 2:I'm sure. Yeah, I haven't really looked it up. I I kind of keep tabs on the old legions and stuff, but as soon as those guys showed up my first thought was, oh yeah, the CLR, for this is going to be ridiculous. You've got to make it look battle-worn and patched up, but professional looking battle-worn and patched up. I pity some of these poor guys that have to emulate these costumes.
Speaker 1:You guys. Who wants to go next? Top five most hated characters. Tony, what you got.
Speaker 3:Sure, I'll go. We share a couple of them, namely Jar Jar and Palpatine Jar Jar. For similar reasons, I'm not going to go so far down into the Sith Lord Jar Jar and Palpatine Jar Jar. For similar reasons, I'm not going to go so far down into the Sith Lord Jar Jar bit. But I will say that I'm all for the comic relief, but I want a character to be more than that. All right, at least in the movies he was never more than that. I think I've been the most tolerant of his character so far in the episodes that we've seen him in in Clone Wars, because there have been some times where they've tried to develop the character a little bit, and so I'm willing to work with that. Palpatine, just straight up, his entire character was basically wanting millions of slaves and then basically had a genocide. I'm sorry you're on the hate list, that's all there is to it that whole genocide thing will get you there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not coming back from that that whole genocide thing will get you there. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely coming back from that. I will say a lot. You mentioned it with one of your entries. For me, a lot of my people on this list are people that it's about what they aren't as opposed to what they are. And so for me, uh, snoke is on my list because, you know, like the neutral, the latest trilogy tried to establish him as the big bad and then just nothing happened with him, like just just flopped, like he. He didn't even like have a fight where he lost, he just boom done and no explanation.
Speaker 1:No, no kind of, no one's even tried to.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's no backstory, there's just nothing for him yeah and and yeah and that's it just didn't work for me. I just I didn't see the point of the character at all. Um, then I will say this is probably where I would get a little, a bit of uh oh, you got a hot take negativity. All right, all right, you know what? Let me wait, you're even holy, I will. You're gonna see, don't say princess leia. If you say princess leia, then yeah it's a You're even Holy shit, tony, I will Don't say Princess Leia.
Speaker 1:If you say Princess Leia, then yeah, it's a wrap. The internet's coming to you.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. Let me go to the easy one. First, zero.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, zero is just annoying as fuck and I just can't yeah, if it makes you feel better, we're not going to hear from him again yeah, we saw what happened to him already yeah.
Speaker 2:so it's like it was the kind of thing where, cause I had them on my list at first, I was kind of scratching. When we talked about this before the show I was like, oh shoot, I'm just like rattling through my head. Zero was just one of those guys. It's like I know you wanted to do a different job and you wanted to do kind of like a. I've heard a Truman Capote kind of like yeah, it's just great, adani, after a while.
Speaker 1:The voice and the manner it's just like he's one of those like when, when he got clipped, I heard Jack Nicholson's Joker in my head. I'm glad you're dead. Glad you're dead, yeah all right, that's.
Speaker 3:That's a good one, tony, here we go. Oh, all right time, that's a good one, tony, here we go.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh, all right, not take time, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry but Mace, all right, we're done here.
Speaker 1:I'm with you. What do you mean? You're with him, what?
Speaker 3:do you mean? The problem with Mace is he is the epitome of the arrogance of the council.
Speaker 2:Preach, brother Preach.
Speaker 3:And, to be fair, he was always a good character. He wasn't arrogant to the point of doing shit on the downside or anything else, but his arrogance, his dismissal of Anakin is a large part of what led to his down downfall.
Speaker 2:Oh, I wouldn't you're. You're gonna love the last season I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 1:I mace was. Mace, I think, represented the strength of the jedi. You know that, that, that strong composure that they needed. You know he was. He was kind of like that, the, the, you know the, the counterbalance to yoda. Yoda was a little more compassionate, a little it's like good, like you know, you've got like your, your good boss and then your asshole micromanager boss, and you know mace was kind of that, but he was tales of the jedi really sold it for me.
Speaker 2:Well that in the last season, you know dooku and mace, mace sucked up to the council. He, he played by the book, he did what the council said to the letter and he got promoted. And yeah, he was sitting there going what the f?
Speaker 1:oh, that's because dooku didn't want to abide by the the, the orders of the jedi. I mean, you've got to have order in the galaxy, yeah but they wouldn't have.
Speaker 2:Do you think mace windu would have solved that murder if dooku hadn't pushed? Yes, absolutely, absolutely you think he would? I think he would have bought the story, just recovered the body and went back to coruscant and just sort of accepted the status quo. That was basically his problem was that he accepted the status quo he upheld law and order.
Speaker 1:And look at, he became a great jedi master. And what happened to dooku? Dooku fell to the dark side, got manipulated by palpatine and then got his head chopped off by a baby killer. So I mean, and really, and the only reason that mace who is not dead, by the way the only reason that street pizza no, no, come on, jedi.
Speaker 1:Jedi, don't get hurt when they fall. When have you ever seen a jedi get hurt while falling? Never, never. We've never seen that. I mean shit. Luke fell down that shaft and used his minimal understanding of the force to put himself into a tube. Come on, mace. Mace is good. If anything, mace landed on a taxi cab or something and he's still out.
Speaker 2:It was his best bet on me, as much as I'm saying mace landed on a taxi cab or something and you know he's, he's still out like this is the thing.
Speaker 3:As much as I'm saying as much, yeah, even though I've got him on this list, if he, if they decide to bring him back and say he did survive that and we get to see a redemption arc from him, okay, cool I'm all for it.
Speaker 1:What redemption? He doesn't need to be redeemed. He's good. If he's dead, he's earned his blue force ghost. He's good and he needs dead. He's earned his blue force ghost. He's good and he needs to kick Anakin off the force.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying he's bad versus good, I don't mean it that way, but just. I went to Tony for somebody who is as high up on the Jedi Council as he is to be so arrogant and be completely blindsided by Palpatine's mechanisms.
Speaker 2:I mean Yoda had suspicions.
Speaker 1:Well, they both did, I mean they both had, did he Well, when they were burying, when they were burning Qui-Gon? You know they were, you know him and him and Mace Yoda and Mace were talking about.
Speaker 2:I mean, he didn't even really fully trust Anakin because, like you think, revenge of the Sith, you know, he looks at Obi-Wan and says, you know, but they're talking about him being the part of the prophecy he goes. So the prophecy says, like he was already thinking Anakin.
Speaker 1:But look at what happened. He was right, mace was right. He's like I don't trust him, I don't trust the boy. He was right. Look what happened. Look what happened, yeah look what happened.
Speaker 2:Him and his whole SWAT team went to go arrest Palpatine and got slaughtered. He got his hand cut off because he couldn't say Anakin, I appreciate you coming to me with this information. Yeah, he did, and he said I trust you, I appreciate you coming to me with this information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did and he said I appreciate it, no, no. But he said, stay here and we'll like, because he didn't trust the boy enough to take it and the boy chopped his hand off and got him pushed out a window. So again, mace was right.
Speaker 3:the whole time. There's a phrase, and I don't remember the exact wording of the phrasing, but there's a phrase about you know you meet your destiny on the path you take to avoid it. And at the end of the day, this is what happened to Mace. He refused to accept that Anakin was the Chosen One. He did everything in his path to distrust him and, as a result of that, led him right into Palpatine's arms.
Speaker 1:No, there was a lot of things that led him. It wasn't. You can't pin that on Mace.
Speaker 3:You can't pin that on Mace Not purely on Mace, but as one of the highest ranking members of the council, as the most outspoken against Anakin. It falls on him more than anybody else against Anakin it falls on him more than anybody else.
Speaker 2:Fair enough, and we got some feedback that kind of agree, like you know.
Speaker 1:We got Hockey Chick. Hockey, chick 1138. She jumps in and she says her top five, boba Fett, fight me. So, top five hated characters. Her number five is Boba Fett and she's ready to die on that hill, all right, darth Vader, which could be Anakin Skywalker. Number five is boba fett and she's ready to die on that hill, all right, uh, darth vader, which could be anakin skywalker.
Speaker 2:So well, we could.
Speaker 1:We could debate that too. We could, because I remember I I don't hate darth vader.
Speaker 2:Darth vader wasn't with anakin skywalker was I'm talking youngling killing, because by then he was referring to himself as he was yeah that could be the. Yeah, that's where the yeah, look at me.
Speaker 1:And she says preach. She said hockey chick, come on, give him hell. Snips, moff, gideon and palpatine, all right. So we all, I think we all kind of share. We share similar, uh, similar lists here. Mace, y'all are killing me with me. Crash, what's your list? Okay, are we going to bed now? I'm, I'm just okay.
Speaker 2:Um, I was adjusting mine because, as you guys were like, I was trying to stick more to the, the movies and tv. I had a few in the eu that I was like oh, there's just no, this is movies and TV. Only there's one I kept because I'll get into it in a second. Number five Alia Kane from the Mandalorian Moff.
Speaker 3:Gideon's little switch.
Speaker 2:I'm saying this with love. Katie O'Brien I haven't met her, but I've heard so many stories that she is the sweetest person interacting with the fans. Again not to act with the fans. Her character you just want to when she completely sabotaged that guy. Dr, Pershing Pershing to the new public and watched him get his mind fried.
Speaker 1:She turned his shit up to 11.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a mile on her face.
Speaker 1:yeah, I was like f that chick she gave my boy some imperial biscuits and then, and then mind wiped him. Yeah, that's a good call, crash, thank you. But yeah, the actress. Again, we're not talking about the actress. If I ever get to meet her, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm looking forward to meeting her because she played that character so well. It's kind of like sam whitworth when he plays villains. You know, I I bet it's always like when you were on supergirl I loved hating you. You good acting wise. This is great.
Speaker 1:Good actors make great villains just very true, and I can't. I can't imagine what that would be like. I mean, I mean, some people say that playing a villain is fun. Others say that it's hard. It's hard to come out. I think Heath Ledger said that he had a really difficult time getting the Joker out of his head. Some people have a good time with it. I can't imagine. That's why I have a lot of respect for actors. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. All right, please continue.
Speaker 2:That's my second one, again from the micro series. I've talked about this before Jell-O, mold man, the bounty hunter, durge oh Durge. Like what was the point of that guy First? You want to make him Boba Fett on steroids in his suit. And Iron man meets Boba Fett. I was like I'll roll with that. Okay, fine, everybody needs a tank character to like yeah, but then this whole, like he is the Jell-O mold, obi-wan slices him with a lightsaber. Oh, I self regenerate because I've got plot armor.
Speaker 1:He got a little tentacle rapey too.
Speaker 2:He was like yeah creepy and like you, suck Obi-Wan in with the into the Jell-O.
Speaker 1:I was like you have to admit though that was pretty fucking dope that he blew him up from the inside, and he's not dead. He's still around. They're just still out there.
Speaker 2:Will we ever see him again? Who knows? Who knows? I hope so. I'm glad they didn't bring him into the Clone Wars. Honestly, I'm really I think I'm glad they didn't bring him into the Clone Wars. Honestly. He'd have been too much Savage. Opress was a great brute. You kind of need a big muscle guy odd job Jaws from James Bond Every once in a while. You just need a guy who's just a big dude. That's bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the mid-level boss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, durge was trying to be too many things in different directions and I never liked him. Scratched off a couple that I don't want to get away. Get a little Tony cover yours. Gar Saxon from Rebels yeah, f that guy. We'll find out later when we talk about Rebels about him. But he's sort of in the Moff Gideon role where he sort of embraced the Empire and perverts the Mandalorian culture to a degree and we'll see hints of this in later seasons of Clone Wars. But coming up, just remember Gar Saxon equals dick.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. If I was forced to take one of them to the barbecue, I would probably take Moff Gideon over Gar Saxon. Yeah, that's fair, and Gideon is just ugh. But man, yeah, fuck that. And because he's a Mandalorian too, that makes it even worse.
Speaker 2:And it was great because again he was played by oh Rey and Stevenson. That's right, because we never got to meet him and the guy that played Varanus, who plays another character we'll get into on Rebels.
Speaker 1:Rey Stevenson what a guy.
Speaker 2:Rey Stevenson gave a great performance as a really bad dude. My next one is from Sequel Trilogy DJ the con man, the slicer, the. Everybody thought he was going to be a giveable rogue like Han Solo or Lando and when the moment came, he just flipped. It took poor Finn and Rose's medallion and he had that moment where you're like, oh, is he going to be a nice guy? He gave the medallion back and when the chips were down he was out.
Speaker 1:Definitely someone you want to kick in the nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my last one, and again I saved my hot take up in scribbling.
Speaker 1:I have a couple that I crossed out.
Speaker 2:I don't want to give too much away for Tony's sake, but this one, cad effin' Bane Hated. I'll tell you I love to hate him.
Speaker 1:It's a respectful hate Because don't disparage my Cad Bane, the greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy bar none. Even now there's respectful.
Speaker 2:I hate because don't disparage my cad bane, the greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy, bar none but I mean, even now, like, like there's stuff that we'll see him do later in life that you just think, okay, if he's this, he's been doing this his whole career to people and you're just like, he's just the lowest of the low and the best of the best bounty hunter but we have.
Speaker 1:We have seen him be compassionate.
Speaker 2:A little bit, a little bit In his own way, for the right price.
Speaker 1:But that compassion, yeah, that compassion serves him. It served him to be compassionate.
Speaker 2:I mean he sent his own droid off as a suicide bomber, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was rough man, Poor Toto. He'll be all right, he'll be fine. Put some dirt, be all right, he'll be fine. Little little little oil, little tussling, you'll be all right so that's two, two, three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I only hit well. Okay, five against accent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my five all right, that's good, that's good. I had an honorable mention in hondo, but I just love h Hondo. I can't hate Hondo. You do kind of hate Hondo, but he's just so lovable at the same time.
Speaker 2:And, to be fair, we're going to see shifts in that this season on Clubhouse.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we get some good Hondo in this.
Speaker 2:There's good Hondo and then there's good bad Hondo, and then there's good Hondo and then there's bad.
Speaker 1:Hondo I don't mean like good in terms of alignment, I'm saying we're going to be getting some good Hondo action. If you're a Hondo fan, season five is definitely going to be a good ride for you.
Speaker 3:Tony, you're going to say something? Yeah, I wanted to check with you guys because he didn't make my top five, but he probably would have made my top 10. So I'm curious as to where he would rank on your list. Okay, god, who? John?
Speaker 1:oh, oh, that's. Oh, yeah, that's a great point, I would put him. That's a great point, I would put him. I'd put him on my top 10. I think I might put him maybe six. I put it, he's. He's up there because man, oh no, man, that's a great point. Maybe a little bit higher because he, he was an asshole to children and I just can't abide that. You know, I can't. He held. He held a knife to a kid's throat, you know, and it's like, yeah, we might have to knock jar jar off my list and replace him with john. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, fuck that guy. It's like that guy. But I want to know more about him. I am compelled, I. I want to know so much more about it.
Speaker 3:I want to see I think that's why he's not on my list. List for top five is because it's just one of those. I don't have his full story yet and I kind of want to see that before I get rid of him.
Speaker 2:Well, we know of him, came from him. So you wonder how much of that is slanted. I mean, the guy has like six aliases already. You know what's crimson jack's backstory, what's jarnar woods story? You know what reputation does he have around the galaxy. That people, if you went into a cantina and said you know crimson jack here, you know people would look at you like oh, you hang out with that guy I don't think.
Speaker 1:I think he's just universally unliked. I don't think anyone has been like, hey, it's crimson jack, what's up, my guy I mean no one, no one has really welcomed him with open arms.
Speaker 1:So I really do hope that we're going to see more of that, because, uh it, this is maybe a hot take to best best show on star wars tv skeleton crew bar none. As much as I love rebels, as much as I love the clone wars skeleton crew just hits all my, all my nostalgia markers, like all of them. So, all right, those were good lists, boys, I like those. I think we need to do more of that, do some more top fives, just to kind of sprinkle them into the end of the show maybe give me more than 10 minutes head start on what we're talking about no, no, no.
Speaker 1:So all right, we'll. We'll do a little more prep for next week okay that way we can get our, get our top fives.
Speaker 1:But you handle it, even with like little notice, you handle it. You did a good job. Well, this is good stuff, all right, so that's going to do it for us this week. Thank you for joining us next week. Your homework season five, episode two, three, four, five. We're going to revisit one, but later on in the season. So we're starting off with episode two, three, four, five, that first arc, um, because episode one fits into another arc later on in in season. So that's your homework for next week. And now, unless you guys have anything else, we'll do the obligatory pimping.
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Speaker 2:I guess we should. We tell them a little bit about my new project. Yeah, absolutely. One of the things we were talking about in the off season is, since I'm you know, me and the part of my flyer here we're off traveling. Sometimes I miss an episode or two. I'm going to start recording from the road and maybe offer some travel con life tips. Uh, awesome, if there's any star wars guests in the area, maybe give you a heads up where they are. Uh, but just sort of tips from the road of rick steves of the galaxy far, far away, as I kind of pitched it so we need to give you like a cool star wars name based off rick steves I I only crash the
Speaker 1:flyer, you know cricks streves, crashes corner. I love it. I love it. That's, uh, where's my? I don't, I don't have all right. Crashes corner, absolutely on that. Um. So, yeah, get all the merch and absolutely do follow us on social media at the SWS show, if you'd like.
Speaker 1:We're going to be kind of ramping things back up a little bit. You know, things have been kind of like things have been crazy Darth Real Life has been no joke recently. So we're're gonna start getting stuff back on track. So follow us on all the socials. We are probably more active. I think I'd we'd say on what? Tiktok? I think we do more action on tiktok.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, we're, you know, growing our, um, our community a little bit more in our facebook group. So, again, look for our facebook group. It is called swirzy. Curious, it is a private group because we want to keep it non-toxic, low sodium, so we're not just letting anybody in. So if you want to join and you want a just a really nice, comfortable place to enjoy star wars with like-minded people, um, our facebook group is that place for you. So, uh, jump in. Make sure you answer the questions. No one's getting in unless they answer the questions. So you guys like, invited like 57 people, and I think four of them answered the questions. Everybody else is just sitting in the box just waiting we'll get them there.
Speaker 2:We're slowly building the fleet, yeah that's fine.
Speaker 1:I'd rather have a really small circle of like-minded people than like a fucking group full of thousands of people and you're gonna get assholes in there and I, who has time for that? I don't have time to monitor all that. There's no, there's no way, all right. So that is going to do it for us this week. So again next week. Homework episodes two through five of season five of the clone wars um, keep tissues handy because, uh, you're gonna get a little choked up uh, I want to thank our our contributor this week.
Speaker 1:Hockey chick 1138 um thank you so much is 1138.
Speaker 3:Is that that's's?
Speaker 1:a Star Wars. That's a reference. Look at hockey, chick, mixing Star Wars and sports. What? All right? Go ahead. 38. That was good, all right. I just I just now caught that. All right, well done, all right. So thanks for thanks for hanging out and playing with us this week. We appreciate you. And, of course, thanks everyone for for tuning in and listening. Very special Thanks, of course, as always, to all of our active duty service members and veterans for doing what you do. We appreciate you and we support you 100 percent, and we thank you for your service and your sacrifice, as always. So that's going to do it for us. You guys got anything on the way out.
Speaker 2:Just ready for the ride. Have a good time.
Speaker 1:All right, that's it. That's it All right, folks. So yeah, that's going to do it for us. And remember, as always, if no one does anything nice for you, do something nice to yourself, and we're going to see you all next week. You.