hey, it is that time. Coming up this week are the jedi horrible guardians. Why? Hondo anaka is the best example of the character you love to hate. Our top five favorite star wars ships and lots and lots of younglings. Good thing anakin isn't around for this. Huh, too soon. No, I don't know. All right, all that and more. Coming up this week it's the Clone Wars, season 5, episodes 9, 10, 11, and 12. No, that's not right. I know that's not right. It's. Uh, what is it Crash? I forgot.
Speaker 2:It is, it's uh.
Speaker 1:It's. Oh 6 through 9, it is, it's uh, it's oh. Six through nine, six through nine. I have 29, 7, 8 and 9. That's what's on my notes. We're already off to a great start, so we're doing it goes well six, seven, eight and nine. All right, all that and more. Right here on your star wars, safe space stick. Let's see if this works. There we go. We can get rid of that now. Hey, welcome to the show everyone. Oh, we're already off to a great start. Huh, crash.
Speaker 1:It wouldn't be us if it was. Yeah, no other way. It wouldn't be us if there weren't uh, our good friend, technical difficulties hanging out with us.
Speaker 2:All right so hey, there's our warriors. What how we doing same as always. That bad, huh that bad, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, god, we that we need to add that to the intro. We really should. We really do that is. That is a great quote from hansel. Anyway, hi there star warriors, welcome to star wars. Safe space or non-toxic, low sodium star wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that jedi master plow clune discovered little baby ahsoka and brought her into the jedi order, and we saw that this week. We saw plowing little tiny, cute little baby ahsoka adorbs, totes adorbs. So whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious, this is your star wars safe space. We are the circle of nerds and we do indeed love star wars, even if we don't always like it. This week, though, we like, I think we liked everything. So, uh, let's meet the crew, shall we so? Pilot of the infamous parma flyer. Can I do the right button here? Nope, I sure can't, it's crash. This is why we're a podcast and why we have no business doing video hi, everybody s foil's locked, ready to go.
Speaker 2:We got a lot to talk about, so let's get into it there you go.
Speaker 1:It's just us, it's just us, everybody's. Everybody else is this week Good thing. Nobody gets paid, or we wouldn't, I guess. I don't know what's going on. I don't know. I have no idea. I'm like, there we go. Well, we do have some news.
Speaker 2:We can kind of start off with that. I'm sure you've heard. Clive Revell, the original Emperor Palpatine voice actor, sadly passed away at 94 years old. Yes, most of you people out there may not even know of him because he was from the original theatrical cut and then by the time George did the special editions, ian re-recorded his lines and facial. They've tweaked that scene so many times that unless you have the original unspecialized version, Like VHS yeah.
Speaker 2:It's hard to tell, but the die-hard original Trilogy fans know him as the first voice of Palpatine and also, I believe, the voice of Alfred from Batman, the Animated Series. So Batman and Alfred are back together. Okay, that's sad but that's cool. Yeah, we're getting that point where that generation of actors you're going to be hearing probably a lot of original trilogy people that we know of are reaching that age and it's sad, but you know, like luke says, you know, nobody's really gone at this point in our lives.
Speaker 1:I heard this somewhere. I can't remember what movie it was, but, uh, they said that at this point in our lives. I heard this somewhere I can't remember what movie it was, but they said that at this stage of our lives. You know, the world is taking more than it's giving these days, so and that's true, that is true especially with our fandom, but, um, very true.
Speaker 1:So what are we doing here? What's the purpose of this show? Well, our mission is to watch all of the canon star wars films and tv shows in chronological order, breaking them down, connecting the dots and learning more about star wars and maybe even a little bit about ourselves. So we've already jumped into news a little bit. Um, probably what the the biggest bit of news right now? And or season two?
Speaker 2:oh, that looks so good. They keep putting out new teasers and trailers. I keep getting pumped because it looks so good and we're getting to that point. I like when various Star Wars properties intersect each other. Like you know, rebels sort of leaded into Rogue One, leading into the original trailer. I like this time here, because the timelines are starting to cross a little bit. It's great.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes it's, oh yes, yes it's. Oh, wait a minute, hold on, hold on a second. It's T to the Oni. Hey, everybody Coming in, live. What's happening?
Speaker 3:Not too much. Not too much, I apologize. My fireball kept breaking down and I was late getting here. Yeah, you said you weren't even going to be on tonight. Not too much.
Speaker 1:Not too much, I apologize, my fireball kept breaking down and I was late getting here. That's okay. Yeah, you said you weren't even going to be on tonight.
Speaker 3:Well, I got lucky and ended up getting somebody to help cover. So it's quiet. I was like, all right, cool, I'm going to drop in the back for a bit.
Speaker 1:All right, that's what I'm talking about. Welcome T to the Oni hailing from parts unknown keeper of the holocron. All right, so, tony, I don't know if you heard what was going on. We're going to do, you know, our normal recap about the episodes, but we're also going to be talking about the jedi being horrible parental units. We've talked about that before, but this was reiterated this week. Why? Hondo is the perfect example of a character that we love to hate. And then our top five favorite ships sounds good all right, cool.
Speaker 1:So just to get us started off, this was you know, we've, we've said the last last couple of weeks. You know, star wars, road wars, isn't really for kids, I mean it's. It gets pretty dark sometimes. Except for this week, this was just nothing but kids. It was all for the kids. Glad Anakin didn't show up because that could have been awkward for everyone. But what's this? Hey, we've got someone. Tmde Sports. What's cracking? I think that's the Mr Deacon Experience Sports Podcast.
Speaker 1:Mr Deacon, of course, if you've listened to some of our other podcasts, he is the most well-dressed nerd in the galaxy, bar none, bar none. He's one of the good ones. Welcome to the chat, mr Deacon. Maybe he'll have some insight. So the thing about mr deacon if you haven't listened to any of his stuff, go check him. If you're a sports person, go check out his stuff.
Speaker 1:Really good, mr deacon is one of those that does not hold back his opinion at all. His, his, his number one catchphrase is it's trash. Like, that's it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I say something and he likes it. No, no, tommy, that's trash. It doesn't matter. Every single time, it doesn't matter like hey, man, the sky is blue, the sky is trash. Unless it's something that he likes, then it's amazing, but that's why we love mr deacon. So anyway, so recapping the episodes this week, talking about all these jedi kids. Obviously it was a growth episode. Each kid had their own little idiosyncrasy that they had to overcome in some way. Very formulaic, we kind of saw it coming, but we did get to revisit Ilum, which was kind of fun. The last time we saw Ilum was in the micro series and we got to see a snow bunny Padme in that, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was where that that costume debuted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it sure did.
Speaker 2:It sure did, it was, it was good stuff.
Speaker 1:So so this arc here. What are your thoughts on this? So that we'll we'll dive a little bit deeper, but I'd like to go around the room get thoughts on this. We don't need to do a full recap, necessarily, but let's get your thoughts crash. You said you had some notes. Oh yeah, um, he was like I got notes today.
Speaker 2:I got notes today. Um, I love this arc and I love each episode for different reasons. I'll start off with the Gathering. As someone who did, I've always grown up a fan of Jedi. I cosplayed as a Jedi. For me, this was like a great again. The show's getting progressively more mature in its tone, but this was a great reiteration of a morality lesson for kids and the building of your lightsaber. Anybody who's ever played a jedi as a kid or whatever, you know that moment where you get your lightsaber is it's. It's like a really spiritual thing. It's deeply personal and each kid the thing I like most was each kid had an idiosyncrasy that they had to overcome in in the in the.
Speaker 1:It's a trial, it's for them mr deacon posted in the chat skeleton crew is trash too. Oh man, we, we need to talk. We need to talk because skeleton crew's by far at this point probably one of the greatest star wars tv shows in existence. But we'll get to that. Man, mr deacon, you should just come on the show. We could talk about that all day. I'm sorry. Please continue oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So like real quick, I'll explain something um, and we've I've got some slides. I can even show disney at galaxy's edge does a great thing called Savvy's Workshop where you can build.
Speaker 1:They make that experience for you, that whole lightsaber building experience, right.
Speaker 2:I've done it. I'm a grown man and I will tell you this thing right here is my favorite Star Wars collectible, and I'll tell you why. Okay, when we went there, this was 2021. I went down with my family Long story short. That morning my dad had a medical emergency. You know, you're at Disney and I walk out of the elevator and there's my dad on a gurney being taken to the hospital. So we like I, was ready to drop everything and he knew we had the appointment to go to Savvy's and build lightsabers. He said no, he ordered us to go, my sister and I. He said you guys, I'll be fine, you guys go and do your thing. And I don't know if you can call up the one, the picture yeah, which one, which one?
Speaker 2:The first one, savvy one, they're in order, so just yeah. So you get there and the cast members are great. They do this big interactive thing. You pick out the type of lightsaber you want to build and they come up at you with a container with various crystals, kyber crystals. They're just little pieces of plastic, okay.
Speaker 1:And that's the crystal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my crystal. I've got it here. I'll show you in a second, if you go to the next slide. You're building your lightsaber, you pick out your parts and I mean they're talking to you about how the kyber crystal connects to the blade, the force. It's all one big thing and in the meantime I am freaking out. I am like these kids in this episode. I had to overcome the fear that I might lose my dad today and I'm sitting there and I'm building this lightsaber and I'm thinking of him. And he came out fine. We got him home and we got him taken care of.
Speaker 2:But this was a very big day in my life because I remember the day I overcame my fear, built my lightsaber. That is this. That's why this thing is my favorite star wars. This is better than my, my costumes and all that stuff, because for me, this was the day I feel. I felt like a jedi.
Speaker 1:I overcame my fear that day so and that's it, and and and. Uh, mr Deacon said he bought his Obi-Wan Kenobi lightsaber there. So so, savvy's workshop, it sounds like it is a very personal, unique experience, obviously, you know. You know you're only going to get out of it what you put into it. So if you go in there, like, ah, we're going to build a lightsaber, whatever, but if you kind of go into it, maybe role-play a little bit, kind of enjoy it, you know. It's an experience I've never been.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know you haven't been down there and I really want you know. I hope you go someday and you know, force-willing, I'll be there with you because it is such an experience. These things aren't cheap. These lightsabers are on the price that's like a couple hundred dollars. These aren't just off your toy store shelf.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. You said how much I think it's like $200.
Speaker 3:That's a hard pass.
Speaker 1:I'll go to Home Depot.
Speaker 2:I'll go to the plumbing department and I got you, I got you. It's more the experience. You go in there and it's like dinner theater the characters, you hear voices, it's like dinner theater. You know the characters, you know you're here, they have. You hear record voices from Jedi, like Yoda and, and you know they get real into like the mystical side of the force. I mean. And Disney's great about immersion and, like you said, if you accept the immersion and you play along with it as a fan, I've never had a more moving experience than I did that day at Savvy's.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, Mr Deacon said he paid $150 for his. I think that's reasonable for a record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you could go. You know some of the custom ones you get online. I mean, even that Theory guy has his own brand of lightsabers. Those things are damn expensive. Yeah $200 for a saber and the experience that you take home with you. It was so worth it If you're going to do it with your kids have money.
Speaker 2:Disney ain't cheap. But the thing is, if you're going to let your kid build a $200 lightsaber, make sure they're mature enough and that they can appreciate the experience. It's not just going in because they have a cheaper version. You could do at Star Tours with plastic parts and whatnot.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:That's the kid version.
Speaker 2:That's the kid version and I would recommend that more for younger kids, kids. But if your kids at the age where they really appreciate the story and especially an episode like this one from Clone Wars where they see themselves in a Gunji or continuity or somebody like that, it's almost worth it if you do it together because they will let you bring a parent that goes with the kid. You can have somebody there with you.
Speaker 1:Crash, let me ask you a question. You said that if the child is, you know you know old enough, or at what age do you feel that a child is old enough to pay two to three hundred dollars to have them build a lightsaber? I'm gonna say 30, so what's, what is your age range there? Um, the savvy ones, like I said, yeah, if, if that's a good question, yeah and how much do you have to really really like your child to spend like that's, that's a car payment?
Speaker 2:uh, yeah, I, I, I want at least a couple months of like cutting the grass without having to be told.
Speaker 1:You know that kind of couple months and no, that's it. That's the rest of your life, until, like, you're cutting my grass, until I can't cut my grass that's a, that's a major.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said, we all know disney trips aren't aren't cheap, but I mean, if you're gonna go for the experience, and and that's, that's just it.
Speaker 1:Like I like, I've researched all that I like and for our, for all of our listener. You can't see what we're putting up on the screen, but it's, it's crash holding his, his lightsaber that he made, and then you've got the falcon in the background ever since galaxy's opened. Um, I have been researching it, I've been looking at every photo it's, and I I told sherry, I told her I was like look we go, we're gonna have to go for like three days. One day, day one, you just leave me alone. Like, just like you take the kids, or if you're gonna meet your girlfriend there, or whatever you go, do whatever you want to do. Because On day one I'm walking around looking at every single minute detail and paint chip and everything. Because I mean, looking at the Falcon, now it looks so detailed, like it is like that's as real as it gets. I mean it looks like the thing is going to fly away.
Speaker 2:We had to. You know, covid was a real thing. We had to put up our trip for a while because of the lockdown, the parks closed and, like I said, 2020, you see me, I'm still wearing a mask because I was very cautious of that, because I live with my parents. They're a little older. I want to make sure I didn't bring anything home, of course, but I tell you, man, the first time I rounded the and we reconned this place, we watched every video, every blog. You know, we knew this place before. We got there inside and out, and it was like you round that first corner and you start to see the bits of the Falcon coming around the horizon and the feels right here Just get you.
Speaker 1:I'm crying, I don't care, I don't care. You know what. And I already know Mr Deacon's watching right now. I already know what he's going to say I don't care, I don't care. I am secure in my manhood. When I see the Millennium Falcon it's not even my favorite ship when I see the Millennium Falcon in real life, I'm going to cry. I'm going to fucking cry. There is no doubt about it. I'm going to cry like a baby. I'm gonna cry like a baby seeing this beautiful work of art right there and then walking around. I have a bounding outfit. I've got like like I'm on subreddits talking about like different clothing to wear. I specifically had an outfit, custom tailor-made for this, and I still haven't been yet and it's probably not gonna happen anytime soon and I really wish the Star Cruiser Hotel they call it a Star Wars hotel.
Speaker 2:It was an experience I saw that. It was great because they let you in through the back door. It was connected Two galaxies in. You go in through a special entrance. In casual cosplay People can wear most whatever they want.
Speaker 1:What Mr Deacon said. He cried too what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally my first day with Snips Deacon, you're a sissy, you're such a sissy, I was making that up.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to cry over a fake spaceship from a movie.
Speaker 3:Hey, you're going to get canceled using that word. Come on now.
Speaker 1:No, I'll cry. I'm just messing around. I'll cry in my life. I already know.
Speaker 2:We can talk about the Star Cruiser at another time in depth. But you were encouraged to dress up and play along and you went into the park, that part of the park, in semi-costume in character. My pictures I've been posting a few of them on the swarzy curious page for crash this corner. That's me in my casual cosplay jedi boots vest. I was like a little casual bespin luke look walking around batuu and it was like it was just such fun to play, just walking around like a space tourist.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't even dream of going over to toy story or any other part of the park dressed like this right but sure but sure there, like I have absolutely zero interest in anything else at disney, like none, like no interest, I don't care, I don't, I literally I don't care. Drop me off at galaxy's edge, leave me, just leave me there I'll. I'll find my way home, I'll figure out food and beverages.
Speaker 2:I'm good, I'm good oh, there's nothing like the smell of a ronto wrap in the morning.
Speaker 1:Oh man, all right now you're killing me, all right. So, anyway, back to the show. Yeah, back to the show. So the kids they're doing the stuff they're growing, they're learning about the things, they're making their lightsabers. And that's gonna bring us to hondo. Let's talk about hondo now, shall we okay? Okay. So I love hondo, I love hondo.
Speaker 1:Hondo is my favorite scoundrel, he's my favorite pirate. He's um, mr deacon says it brings back so many memories of my childhood. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we grew up. We grew up watching this stuff and then to see it live right there, yeah, crash, like you said, the fields. I mean you're going to get all the fields. Um, so Hondo, initially, at what? At later on in the in this arc, he said that you know he, he doesn't like to take kids into battle. Yet he straight up instructed his pirates to kill anyone that gets in the way. So Hondo was going to sauce these kids or have them sauce. He might not have done it by his own hand, but, like he said, I smell profit. If anything gets in the way of that profit, he's taking it out. Would he and I want to know from you guys, would he have actually had those kids taken out? What do you think?
Speaker 3:I don't think he would have you watch that and at first you think, yeah, that is really messed up. But they made a point to try and gas everybody out. I think honestly, I think that he suspected that Ahsoka was going to be the one there with the kids and knows that their relationship that he's got with Anakin, with Obi-Wan, would play into it and he'd just be like listen, just give me the things. It doesn't have to be a big deal and I'm not going to hurt anybody. Just give me what things. It doesn't have to be a big deal and you know I'm not gonna hurt anybody.
Speaker 1:Just give me what I want and I'll go right, mr deacon here says that hondo opens up the ride at disney. I've seen that he's like an animatronic, right? Yeah, is it? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, tony, I, I, I want to agree with you. I really do. It's like because he's softy, he is, I mean, he's, he could have, he could have have sauced our intrepid crew many times over. He could have taken out the jedi many, many times over, but he hasn't, he. He even says he likes obi-wan. So I want to believe you, but he's still a cold blooded killer and a pirate. So I, I don't know, crash, what do you think Would he? Would? He saw.
Speaker 2:I, I was watching, I watched these episodes. I've seen this, this arc before, but I watched it this time and my mind kept drifting back to skeleton crew. Mondo versus Silvo.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like you know, cause he, he straight up, drew a blade on these. He shot at fern's head. He did, and he'll find a way to justify it. Hondo is, you know, he's got a great line where he, you know, and he always said at one point he says my mood is based on profit. I mean, that's it. Last week he was moving rocket launchers to the Resistance. He paid well enough. This week he's intentionally taxed a Jedi cruiser because he wants kyber crystals and times were lean. So he's like okay, I'm your friend today, you know, but my profit's down, so I gotta do what I gotta do right radio, radio b, said that she would work for hondo and I agree, I, I would, I would, I would work for hondo too.
Speaker 1:He's just a great guy, you know, for as sleazy as he can be sometimes, you just gotta love him so you know, and he, he attacked children, he, he, in my opinion, I think he would have been willing to take them out, um, he, faced off against ahsoka, was willing to have her taken out, um, and at the end of this arc he saves the day he's uncle hondo again he's, he's uncle hondo, he has a connection with one of them.
Speaker 1:But then he bills the republic. He tells obi-wan, I'll send you an invoice, I'll send you my bill radio business. I think if the money was right he would sauce the children. I don't think he's a hired assassin, but I don't think someone paid him to sauce them, go ahead.
Speaker 1:If he had to get through them to get to the money, if the only way was to sauce these kids and get the treasure, I think he he would. I don't think he would be like a gun for hire sort of situation, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I kind of agree with radio beach there I don't think so just because, like I remember, when young boba fett came and he was like you know, tell, tell them where the hostages? You know he has lines he won't. You know he, you know he has lines he won't cross. Maybe not If the money gets to a certain point they'll get murky. But there are certain things I don't think he would do, even for money.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I just, I really I don't know. And that's another reason why I think we love to hate Hondo, because you just don't know, like, there's other sketchy characters out there. Um, you know, at one point boba fett boba fett was kind of a sketchy character. Would he have killed kids? No, I don't think he would. I think he still has. He doesn't have that level of, uh, moral ambiguity. Radio b says, she says, hey, fuel is expensive, that's not bad. I mean, that's not, that's not wrong. And he's flying around, that flying saucer, which was great. We're going to talk about ships here in a minute. But, um, yeah, I just, I don't know, like cad bane, would cad bane kill children?
Speaker 1:absolutely, yeah, I think so no questions asked yeah, no questions, I mean it's like you.
Speaker 2:At the end, with Kanuti, he even says he's uncomfortable with the idea of taking children into battle. So you were talking are the Jedi the worst guardians of these young? Yes, Ahsoka was with them, but you would think for such an important mission they would send more than just a Padawan, which kind of shows the level ahsoka has risen to, where now she's being trusted with fairly moderate level of teaching. You know she's, she's a padawan and now she's literally like the, the grad student teacher who's like helping the younger classes or the jedi, just don't care about children because they are horrible, horrible caregivers at like.
Speaker 1:There is I'm convinced there is no galactic child protective service agency, or if it is, it's just woefully understaffed or underfunded. Because ahsoka is capable. We know that. We know that she is more than I mean. She goes toe-to-toe with grievous all the time. I think this is like her third or fourth time going toe-to-toe with grievous and she went up against him, young, I think, like in season one or season one.
Speaker 2:It was battle yeah, she had.
Speaker 1:She was like there's this four-armed lightsaber wielding freak don't worry, I got this. It's like you're 12, dial it back, ahsoka. But she tamed a giant saber-toothed tiger. She saved her village from being eaten and it's so she's. She's on a different level, I think, than than most children or even younglings her age, I think. She's a little more advanced, but but again, it's like you know we're going to send you into these death caves so you can get your crystals without any adult supervision whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Yoda was there. I mean, you know, he sort of left it to their interpretation that the ice wall meant they were stuck there for a rotation which everybody thinks, oh, 24 hours like the earth. Well, it could be 19 days, or you're a Jedi. Break the damn ice with the force. Sure, sure, so could it. There's a great line in this thing there's another one I like, where he tells together and only together. I think that is a lesson for the in this episode, for kids, that you can do more when you work together with your friends, your classmates, your teammates, then you can't alone.
Speaker 2:The, the one kid, uh, petro, was so self sure of himself. He was first out with a crystal which wasn't the right crystal. He just grabbed the first thing he saw and ran out because he wanted to be first. He was the first one to rush to get his saber together and blew up on him. Of course, there's always that one kid that just turns in his first draft of the paper and says, look, I got it done. Well, you did it wrong, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:You've always got them, those, and it's you know you're seeing, you're seeing some, some archetypes throughout this. You know, and I think it's it's relatable for kids you know to, to see other kids going through the same things. But like the ice wall, I agree with you 100, you know, petro rolled through it. I mean he, he smashed through it. Just fine, they could have used their lightsabers to get through any number of reasons. That's not my issue. My issue is the, the giant cliffs that they could have easily fallen off of to their deaths. Right, I mean right. What's yoda? What's yoda gonna do?
Speaker 1:Yoda's on the other side of the temple hanging out smoking whatever peyote is in this place, because clearly something was messing with their minds. There is some kind of Jedi hallucinogenic being pumped into the caves at Ilum. And what Sherry said Yoda did say at the very end, before they left the cave, that they wouldn't be able to just break it because of ice. True, very true. I think he might have said that just to get in their heads a little bit. But again, it's not even the ice, it's the gigantic drops that Petro almost fell. What was the other girl's name that had to climb up? I can't remember her name?
Speaker 1:Canute Canute? Yeah, that's the one. Um, what was the other girl's name that had to climb up? I can't remember her name? Canute canute, yeah, that's the one that that hondo connected with. And, um, yeah, she could have fallen to her death, plummeted to her death. And again, where was ahsoka? Where was yoda? Where was the adult supervision, while these children are risking their lives for the jedi again? Once again, they are horrible and, if anything, I think that the senate should do something about it in terms of removing their access to children. It's just, it's out of control well, I mean.
Speaker 3:The problem with that is that we we know exactly what the emperor thinks is the best way to deal with children.
Speaker 1:I mean that's sure, but even we've seen Palpatine was better with the children than the Jedi. At least they had nanny bot supervision at all times when those babies were in danger. Who put the babies in danger to begin with? The Jedi? Those babies were in danger. Who put the babies in danger to begin with? The jedi? They're the ones that turned off the shields for this, this sith nursery. I'm just saying. I'm just saying those kids were perfectly safe until the jedi show up and perfectly safe?
Speaker 2:yeah, perfectly safe, in like a maniac's death chamber, but you know they were safe he wouldn would look at.
Speaker 1:He did fine with maul. He I mean, he didn't raise him from a, from an infant, but he did all right, bringing maul up, it's okay. No, I think, look at like it's like. Mr deacon says hater. No, I think that the jedi are wrong. Again, I would. I would rather my child be watched by palpatine's nanny bots than to have them watched by the Jedi. We've even seen this in Young Jedi Adventures. Oh yeah, go ahead and take this starship with a complete stranger who is also a child. Just go ahead and jump to light speed, it's fine. Oh, and we're going to have you do this trial and you have to get this seed that's on this 85 foot cliff up here. That's fine, you'll just use the force, you'll be good.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not you know I I don't want to get too far ahead, but there are there's a moment in rebels where we see another jedi temple. You know, I wonder if these places have sort of built-in contingencies. Ezra failed a test. He fell down a chasm and then he ends up a soft landing in a different room. I wonder. The climbing the ice wall to go after your crystal, is that a projection? Is that more of like a holodeck? Is that a? I don't know his name, but the Ithorian was afraid of the shadow in your bedroom. That looks like a monster. That was a great one where I thought he was like as soon as he grabbed his crystal, it's all in his mind yeah, it's just, it's all in your head, literally.
Speaker 3:That's a good point, and the fact that Yoda knew exactly what each of their trials were going to be, even if he didn't exactly say it in those words like it, makes sense that, yeah, it could be just a setup.
Speaker 1:It could be a setup. It could be a holodeck sort of situation. It could be a force projection. I mean, we've seen that force projections are very powerful. We saw luke do one across space. You know, radio beach says maybe it's just natural selection. If the kids don't make it, they don't deserve to be jedi. I love that well look at mr d says tommy d has always been a Jedi hater. You're biased. Hey, the facts speak for themselves, Mr Deacon. The facts speak for themselves.
Speaker 2:Well, it wasn't even like. Look at Luke in Empire Strikes Back. That wasn't really Vader in the cave, but it was a manifestation of his fear.
Speaker 1:And who was also there at that time? Yeah, yoda, yoda, yoda. Putting out the Jedi peyote Again, again harming children, putting children in harm's way. No, everybody thinks Yoda's this cool cute little guy. No, no, absolutely. Child neglect, child endangerment charges all day, every day.
Speaker 2:I can't with yoda before we get off this the way as off topic, as we are already you said tommy d is a sith lord with a beard.
Speaker 1:Come on, come on.
Speaker 2:Can we talk about the second episode and David Tennant as Professor Q Wang?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 2:That was great, great casting. You know, everybody knows him from Dr who and there's just that vibe of of Dr who, that sort of creeps in when you hear his voice, but just the idea that there's somebody, and we saw him later in Ahsoka Again. You know that there's somebody and we saw him later in Ahsoka Again. Yeah, there's. There's a history to these things and it's interesting to find finally meet the person who teaches these Jedi how to build a lightsaber and has a memory of thousands of years, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like Ollivander. I mean, he was very much yeah.
Speaker 2:From Harry Potter and it wasander I mean he was very much an Ollivander from Harry Potter.
Speaker 1:And it was cool because while Sherry and I were watching this she had that moment of recognition because she had never seen him before, because she had watched Ahsoka already. So seeing him there and then now again that's a dot connected in the Clone Wars. So now when we rewatch Ahsoka and she watches Ahsoka again now you've got you know, a little more connection.
Speaker 2:And let's not forget, ahsoka and huang were on this mission together during the clone wars.
Speaker 1:Right, they've known each other for years, probably a long time I love that he said that he he still remembers master yoda building building.
Speaker 2:We think of Yoda as this unthinkable old thing and it's like oh, huang's older.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, which for the record, considering how many junk droids we see in the universe, how good was the building that put Huang together?
Speaker 2:But he's still going this little French long. Even after having his head and arms cut off, like in you know, he's still what like 90 or 80 original parts I mean that's craftsmanship, man, they don't.
Speaker 1:They don't make them like that anymore, that is for sure all right. So great, great episodes crash. Do you still have some more notes?
Speaker 2:I feel like you've got more oh, oh, where do you still have some more notes? I feel like you've got more notes. Oh, where do you want? Okay, let's talk about Necessary Bond, the last episode. You know Hondo, for as much as Hondo likes to flip the script, we'll be Sith Lords together.
Speaker 1:That was a radio beach station. We'll be Sith Lords together. There you go.
Speaker 2:For as much as Hondo likes to flip the script with the Jedi, I'm with you. I'm against you, I betray you. Let's not forget, dooku still holds a grudge for Hondo, holding him hostage for like a day.
Speaker 1:And he totally played it off to him and Hondo's just like, ah, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, whereas the Jedi Obi-Wan is annoyed by Hondo, but they'll deal with him. They'll use him when they need him, and even in this arc where, okay, you attack one of our ships, but you help us out in the past, so they could have arrested him.
Speaker 1:They could have On the spot. They could have.
Speaker 2:They should have arrested him, but you helped us out, so we'll let you go. I find it interesting that with the Separatists, there's no loyalty, there's nothing but payback, there's nothing but vendetta. And it was.
Speaker 1:It's all absolutes. It's all absolutes.
Speaker 2:And even among Hondo's men, the ones that joined. It's just that thing where Hondo has a way of he may betray you, but you, you just can't hate him. You just can't, I can't, I can't break away from you, man you can't.
Speaker 1:And honda again. Hondo is the best star wars character that you love to hate because, like you cannot. He's so charming and it's like you know that he's gonna stab you in the back. You know this but you're just like ah, but you know what he'll? He'll make me laugh or he'll get me something pretty afterwards, or you know, he's just. He's just that guy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he's that vendor at the con that you know is overcharging, but he always has the good stuff he always has and he's so nice.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, we go to uh, we go to the spot um in cleveland called the west side market and uh, crash. I'm sure you're familiar with oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's a there's a particular produce vendor that we go to, very nice egyptian woman and we started going to her because she was so complimentary. She's oh, you're so beautiful, your wife is so pretty, you're so handsome, you're beautiful couple. You know she has this great accent it's not that I can't do an egyptian accent, but she she's so nice, she's so flattering, she's so complimentary. We give her the money she always gives us extra produce whatever and then we get it home and nine times out of ten the extra stuff money she always gives us extra produce whatever and then we get it home and nine times out of ten the extra stuff that she's given us is like in a state of half rock.
Speaker 3:So it's like she's, she's so nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like all the way on the end she's very nice. She's very nice and the the produce that we actually purchase is great. I mean it's, it's always fresh, it's, it's, it's good, it's good produce. But then once we get into the bottom of the bag there and the stuff that she had thrown in to get rid of it, I guess you know oh, here, take some more free strawberries and you open the strawberries up and they're all like black and moldy. There's like three or four strawberries you can pull out.
Speaker 1:She's like hondo. It's like okay, I keep going back to her. I keep going back to her for the good produce because she's so nice. But she stabs me in the back when she gives me her rotten fruit that she doesn't want to throw away. So she kind of like you know, I don't, she doesn't charge me for it, but I'm still paying for it because she's like no, no, no, take three, four, five and then do this and that and like, by the time I'm done, I went in there for like green beans and a mango and I'm walking out with like a bushel of corn, 25 apples, eight tomatoes, three avocados, 10 bushels of strawberries. What am I going to do with all this. How did she do this to me? Hondo, she Hondo'd you, she hondo'd me. So, yep, that's uh what else?
Speaker 2:you got well and just the other thing I was kind of interested in um the space circus, yeah, and that the kids team.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah it's just sort of a a little little nod, a little wink to the old Barnum and Bailey circus, but I love the fact that it just showed even in the middle of this war. That sort of all encompasses the story of the show. There's people trying to make a living, there's people that you know around, and I just love the fact that the kids were smart enough. We talk about scenarios like would a character do this? Would a character go? I think these Jedi younglings. It was interesting that they immediately took their natural abilities that they've been taught and said that's our end. That was our Ocean's Eleven heist to break ahsoka out of hondo's base and they handled it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, they didn't, they didn't cry, they didn't get scared, they didn't whimper and cower you like, you know, like they were top of their class.
Speaker 2:These kids are the top gun of the young.
Speaker 1:They they went for it. They went for it and the guy that was running the circus um sherry pointed out he was very reminiscent of the door guard um at the emerald city in the original wisdom. Oh yeah yeah he even had, like, the big mustache and he had that.
Speaker 2:That's a very similar voice I like the gomorrean with the clown makeup. That was. That was a great, oh yeah yeah, I just, I love it.
Speaker 1:and then, and then we get to see hondo's court again, which is always fun. Hondo's drinking with a couple of weekway gals, just you know, he's just, he's just that guy, he's just that guy and I, I just love him. All right, um, so there was a lot going on, and this was obviously learning episodes. These were learning and growth episodes for these children. Learning episodes these were learning and growth episodes for these children. I don't know if we see any of them ever again. Um, however, there is a tie-in later on and it's one of my honorable mention ships that we'll talk about. Um crash, I don't remember, but do you know if we see any of these kids later on?
Speaker 2:yes, we do. Okay, I don't remember. I don't want to give away too much away. We will. You'll see them around the jedi temple in the background. I think this is their, their one big story arc, but you'll see them in passing um. You'll see gunji the, the wookiee jedi, later on.
Speaker 1:I do remember gunji. Yes, that's true, that's right, that's right, that's right but you know radio beach said that would be great if they did that at galaxy's edge, the circus oh yeah, cool there, that's a great idea send that in, get a free room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get us a free trip. What's up, girl, go ahead and do that thing. All right, so let's do top five favorite star wars. I don't have any media to go with this because I just thought about it today. So Crash, if you'd like to go first, tony, do you have your top five ships ready to go?
Speaker 3:I do have my list.
Speaker 1:Look at you. Look at you, crash, take it away.
Speaker 2:Okay, you don't have the stuff I sent you before the show.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't have time. Okay, no, worries.
Speaker 2:I if I sent you earlier before the show. No.
Speaker 1:I didn't have time. Okay, no worries, I'm sorry, that's okay.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to run through my list here personally, so give me a second here.
Speaker 1:But I can actually try to share my screen. I don't know if that'll make the show crash, but I don't know. I'll try it see what happens. All right, what's your first one? Are you doing like in ascending order, so bottom of your top five up, or number one or no particular order?
Speaker 2:No, there's an order to this, but first off I'm going to start with is the Mon Cal Cruiser Independence Home. 1 is known by and Return of the Jedi. As a kid who grew up playing I majored in x-wing, the pc game in college that ship was your home base for every mission. So when you, you know, after, after I got my uh tail shut off and jump back to hyperspace, it was just home, sweet home, home one I I. That ship brings back a lot of good memories for me.
Speaker 2:Number four is the ghost. I know this is going to be a hot topic the ghost or the falcon. I'm team ghost because Han and Chewie lived on the falcon, but I think we'll see on Rebels that the ghost was more than just their ship, that was their home, especially for harrah, and just the family mindset of the ghost crew really made me fall in love with this ship as a place where these people live and not just where they, you know, used to travel and it's got a lot of personality and it does a lot of cool stuff it does.
Speaker 1:We see it. We get to see it in live action as well.
Speaker 2:It's great that they converted it over to live action. I could do a 3D map. I want to see the phantom. You do, onosoka. We see the phantom by itself. We see the ghost, and it's just. I want to see the turret on the top of the ship, everything that you see. I don't, yeah, you know, and it's just I. I want to see the turret on the top of the ship work. Yeah, everything that you see in the. I don't want to get too much into rebels, but we'll get there. Yeah, and I'm not all light side my, my number three, the tie defender. Oh yes, that grand emerald thrones baby is a badass little mother, you knowknow-what.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's a beast.
Speaker 2:And it was in the TIE Fighter PC game in the late 90s too. That's when it was first introduced. It had shields, it had hyperdrive, it had missile launchers. You could just tear stuff up in that puppy. It was on par speed-wise. Anything the rebels had uh.
Speaker 1:number two is I'm trying to get pictures and you're just going too fast okay okay, I'm trying to get pictures, hold on and I don't know. I don't know if any of this is going to work. So let me uh, let me do a, let me do a share screen and see if that'll uh okay and I'm sure our listeners are loving this, yeah um, watching us all clickety, clickety, click um.
Speaker 2:But we're trying new stuff, so you gotta give us some time right.
Speaker 1:I just want to make sure that I've got the the right one. I don't want to share something inappropriate that I might have. Hey, hey, there we go there we go.
Speaker 2:Tie defender, this bad boy you know, thrawn was right, it's got shields, it's got hyperdrive, it's got everything that the Rebel Alliance uses to their advantage. And if they had mass produced this instead of some of the standard TIE fighters or TIE Interceptor, it could have changed the war.
Speaker 1:Oh, no doubt. Yeah, that thing is a beast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it was just so much fun to play in. You know, it's got at least, I think, six cannons, or something like that it does you know, and it's just, it was just a terror on space. So now here comes the fun part. I'm going to call this my number two, even though I love it dearly. The new X-Wings, the.
Speaker 3:T-70s. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:See if you get a chance to pull one up. But you know, again, I'm like every kid I grew up loving Rebel Pilots and the classic X-Wing. You know, I still got the hasbro ones from and the kenner ones from my childhood. But when force awakens came and those those new x-wings came screaming across the lake, it was like, okay, that was then. This is now. This is the upgrade and it's just a badass-ass little star fighter. It was the King that are in the rebellion with the X-Wing and the King is returned in the, in the in the T 70. And it's just a sweet little fighter. But my number one and I think we know where this is going, it's my home away from home.
Speaker 2:The Y-Wing yeah, a clone wars classic, reinvented for the rebellion, stripped down to keep compete with more modern fighters. This would be like a souping up a uh, uh, an old mustang from world war ii with jet engines. It's a. You know it's a. It was built as a bomber, it was built to take out ships and not dogfight. But if you strip it down for speed it could be a fighter-to-fighter kind of starship, just like with the X-Wings. Yep, there's my girl. They take a beating. I think they're a little more durable than the X-Wings are in combat and it's just a great ship.
Speaker 1:I love her yeah, and it's cool because we do get to see, um, we get to see the y wings with their, uh, with their clothes on, I guess in, you can say, in the clone wars shadow malevolence the first time you see one, yeah yeah, there they go I was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was really big when we were designing uh squadron patches for our rebel legion base. We were uh shadow squadron and I I wanted to. I was really big on the fact. I said, guys, there was an x-wing shadow squadron and a y Shadow Squadron. I wanted to make sure we had one of each included, because a lot of the pilot cosplayers like to. It's all about the X-Wing, everybody's an X-Wing. I said no, no, no, you got to have the wishbones, you got to have the bombers in there too. So I'm a big fan of both ships, but at the end of the day, I think that the Y-Wings don't get as much love as the X-Wings, so that's why it's my number one.
Speaker 1:No, that's fair. That's fair, you're right it doesn't necessarily get the love that it deserves because it's a workhorse. I mean that Y-Wing is definitely a workhorse, wing is definitely a workhorse. Um, and then we had, uh, we have mr deacon talking about um luthens ship. Luthen rails, uh, the fondor hall craft from andor, season one, and yeah, that ship is kind of a beast yeah, but you know what, and Mr Deacon's going to get at me for this too.
Speaker 1:But I was so happy watching Andor because no lightsabers, no lightsabers at all Until there was Even on the damn ship. He's got the twin lightsaber blades coming out of the side of it. Like come on, really, we can't do one show without a twin lightsaber blades coming out of the side of it. Like come on, really, we can't do one show without a fucking lightsaber. Are you serious? But it was pretty cool. He did the little spinny trick with the lightsabers on it.
Speaker 2:uh, the ship mounted sabers I think there's some disagreement clarified, if that I mean I'm not like a traditional lightsaber. I mean they haven't clarified if that I mean it's not like a traditional lightsaber blade.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't know if you can build a lightsaber, that big, but just the idea that, yeah, it's like the it's an energy blade of some sort. It's an energy blade.
Speaker 2:But I was going to say it's reminiscent of the movie Ben-Hur and the one chariot that had the blades on the wheel where he'd take it.
Speaker 2:It's the idea of okay, how would a medium-sized starship fight dirty? And I think that was a great, just like the countermeasures for the tractor beam and everything. You're not expecting a ship like that to compete. Yeah, there it is. I don't know if they could sustain that for a long period of time, but I think it's just sort of like, like I said, the the blades on the wheel of your chariot where you get a quick hit. You let the ship go by you and then you can take it out that way instead of trying to track it with a laser.
Speaker 1:Right, no, they just wanted to sneak in lightsabers, that's all it was Well, they Well, they did a good job. They did a good job, Tony. What you got All right.
Speaker 3:So first things first. I have a dishonorable mention. Oh, a dishonorable mention, all right. Okay, and that is going to be for the original TIE Fighter. I'm sorry, I just don't like the design. I think it's ridiculously impractical. Like, if you see these things like on the ground, how do you get the pilot in and out of there? Like it's ridiculous, not so much which, when you're flying it, how, like, how big of a blind spot do you have with those wings and the placements that they're?
Speaker 3:all of the blind I just, I just don't get it. I don't get it. It makes no sense to me they're all blind spot.
Speaker 1:It's nothing like I know. I remember they did explain it that, um, you know it was meant to be a support, a supported craft. It was meant to be service like. So you needed, you needed a support craft in order to do anything. But yeah, you're right. I mean, if you, if you crash someone, you're probably gonna be dead. No, not you, but if a tie pilot lands that thing, then you know, yeah, you got to jump down it's. You know it's not easy to get in and out of, but yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:Well, you know in the, in the old pc game they were held, you know, in place with like a clamp, yeah, by the, by the arms, yeah, um, and Mandalorian. You know, every time they've seen a different version of this, you know they always call it like a different variant. You know Moth Gideon's TIE Fighter, you know, the wings folded in so that it could lay flat and land on landing struts, whereas on Rebels you'll see later on they just flat up, set the wings down like we used to do with our old Kenner TIE Fighter.
Speaker 2:You just lay it on the table, man, and bring out a ladder.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 1:All right, tony. What else you?
Speaker 3:got. I imagine they got a lot of backlash from it because, like all the other designs, they fixed it. So I don't know, but that's okay, all right. So going into my actual top five here, okay, the first one that I've got is the Aether Sprite Light Interceptor.
Speaker 1:Also, known as the.
Speaker 3:Jedi Starfighter.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, wait, which one? We were talking about this beforehand the wedge or the one with the S-foils on it?
Speaker 3:The S-foils. Yeah, it's just great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know Crash said that he liked the old, the original wedge version first. He liked that. That's a terrible, terrible image. Let me see if I can find one that's not microscopic.
Speaker 2:So, anyways, while he's looking for that, why do you like this particular version?
Speaker 3:I mean, to me both of them are great. Don't get me wrong. I just like the curve. It's a nice. It's something that you don't see on a lot of these ships. A lot of them are so angular and it's just nice to see something like that. I appreciate it. But again, you can swap out for the the other one and it would barely be any different well it's.
Speaker 2:It's sort of a very interesting evolution from the previous model to what we now know as a tie fighter yeah, yeah, because we've got the.
Speaker 1:You know you've got those, those s-foils that come up and look very, you know, tie fighter ish, and then even the cockpit. You know you've got got that window design there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that would, and like the S-foils on this thing, would really have solved the problem with Tony, with the TIE fighter you know the basic TIE fighter. If the S-foils, again like Moff Gideons, if they folded in the ship profile flatter, it'd be easier to land.
Speaker 1:I have, I have, I have Vader's Hold on, keep going.
Speaker 3:Keep going, that's another great example. So my next one and you can call me basic, I don't care, it's got to be the Falcon. The Falcon's just great. It's a classic for all the right reasons.
Speaker 2:You saw it in that picture I shared earlier. It's just iconic Star Wars.
Speaker 1:I didn't have my headphones on. What was it? The Falcon, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It's almost a character in itself by the time we get to see it in Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker 3:It absolutely is. If you say to anybody, name me a strip from star wars, that's the first thing that's going to come out of their mouth, and it's for damn good reason, yeah, um, moving on to number three, uh, my, the one that I have on my list, that is a, that is a, um, dark side chip are the vulture droids oh okay, I love those things.
Speaker 3:I love, I love the fact that, like they can actually walk around on the little, on the little legs. I think it's just just beautiful design. I just love it and you what?
Speaker 1:You don't really hear people giving love to the vulture droids. I've never heard anyone in a top five ship conversation say, yeah, vulture droids, but you're right, they're versatile. They look kind of goofy when they're walking around, but, man, when they come at you you're about to have a bad day, and they were a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2:I remember again the season one episode where the droid battle where they were going to rescue R2, these things, when they're in their walking mode, are just as they're almost more lethal because the size difference between a clone trooper versus one of these guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just like the Umbara arc, where the first tanks were small, the next group, the coming after them, were a little bit bigger. This would have been a middle-range size mech. That would have been a little more of a challenge for a couple clones by themselves.
Speaker 1:And if you're not on your game, you're going to get crushed.
Speaker 3:I will say just as an aside for this for the Star Wars Unlimited card game, they just released these in the newest set, the Vulture Droids Really, and the unique feature that they have so most cards in the game you're only allowed to have three copies of in your deck this card specifically says you're allowed up to 15 of them, because that's the nature of them is that they swarm you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that name really holds true. They're like vultures, they circle the deck.
Speaker 1:They come at you. What else you got?
Speaker 3:Tony, yeah, number two for me, and I agree with Crash on this one. As much as I love the Falcon, I prefer the Ghost, so the Ghost is on my list as well. The Falcon, I prefer the Ghost, so the Ghost is on my list as well, Now, of course for the same reasons or what are your reasons Because, again, the Falcon is iconic, but the Falcon is, at the end of the day, a ship, whereas the Ghost is a home, and I appreciate that, despite the fact that I haven't seen Rebels, I don't care.
Speaker 1:And you said you haven't seen Rebels. I have not.
Speaker 3:Oh. Well you're in for a treat.
Speaker 1:I've always loved the look of it. It's got that classic YT Carillion vibe, but it's one of those ships reason that I like, I like, crash it. It is a home and as we, as we start watching rebels, we're going to start appreciating the fact that it is a home more and more and more. But like the, the look of it, like the, when you look at the nose it looks like an old world war ii bomber. It looks beat up and lived in and used and that's what you want to see in star wars. You know, star wars is a lived in galaxy and I mean, look at her, she's, yeah, she's gorgeous it reminds me a lot of the serenity from firefly especially the, especially in the front of it.
Speaker 2:That loading ramp is so useful in the story. The Falcon was great but even like you remember the original Kenner toy. The ramp would come down if you didn't lose pieces, parts or just like right there that is entering Hera's house. That is their home.
Speaker 3:That is their workplace.
Speaker 2:That is where they travel the galaxy in. And you look, you got the turret facing you right there, which was like ezra's kind of hangout place. You got the cockpit right there. Like you said, very uh, world War II bomber Vibe but look at this, look at the details on.
Speaker 1:yeah, it's just such a gorgeous ship.
Speaker 2:I remember when they showed a live-action render of it because it sneaks into Rogue One, and the first time they showed the live CG version of this ship, everybody freaked out.
Speaker 3:All right, and for me, my number one again. You can call me basic if you want, I don't care. No, no, no, the. You can call me basic if you want, I don't care. No, no, no. Classic X-Wing there you go.
Speaker 1:It's just the old T-65, right.
Speaker 3:Like for me that, like that is the the quintessential. If I could have a one ship, that's the one I want.
Speaker 1:So what is it? What is it about the, the beautiful and, uh, and, like you said, the iconic x-wing? What is it about it?
Speaker 3:I mean just the very first time that I saw that. I saw it go from, you know, from two to four, where it split out and just like, okay, so you just don't. You know when technically you didn't, but you doubled your firepower because now you've got four different targets that you can come to the same Like. It's just beautiful. It really is. It's a hot rod.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt it's. It's a hot rod, for sure.
Speaker 3:Like and you know we talked about it quite a lot when we did, when we used skeleton proof when they're, when they're looking up, when the x wings come in, like that's me right there, that's the yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is what I want but and it's, it's a beautiful ship, it is it, it gets, it gets the job done um.
Speaker 2:It's multi-purpose it's a dogfighter, it's an attack run ship, you can do almost anything with it.
Speaker 1:It's just beautiful. It's a beautiful ship and I love it because it does have hot rod vibes. I love it All right. That's a good top five. That's a good top five. That's a good top five, all right uh, yeah, boss, what do you got?
Speaker 1:all right, we'll, we'll do mine, we'll wrap up right, all right. So my uh, going from, from the bottom, it's uh, it's gonna be one of my favorite ships dash rendars, yt 2400, the outrider, but any yt 2400, there's been a few of them out there, but, um, again, you've got. You've got those carillion freighter vibes, you've got that offset cockpit. But it was like I remember the toy for it, like it, the, the cockpit would the toy the toy is a little messy in the the other cockpit.
Speaker 2:You didn't, it was like you had to pull it out. Yeah, whereas you think this is the configuration you would expect to ship it to be in. But toy makers always wanted at that time, always wanted to add a transformation, a gimmick, always wanted to add a transformation, a gimmick, and it just it should have just left it like this.
Speaker 1:But I, I love it like I, I love this ship so much I I recreated it as best I could in the game starfield. So if you haven't played starfield, it has an incredibly robust shipbuilding mechanic and I was able to get very, very close to the yt 2400 here. Um yeah, great ship, all right, moving along the razor crest rest in peace rest in peace, rip razor crest.
Speaker 1:I was heartbroken because I love this ship, the saint, for the same reasons that we love the falcon and the ghost. This is din jarin's home. This is his world. I mean everything it's. It's got everything that he needs he's got. He's got an evacuation unit, he's got a little sleeping pod. He has a whole freaking arsenal in his closet, you know he's got. He's got an on board mini carbonite chamber so he can freeze his bounties.
Speaker 1:It's just everything about that ship was amazing and apparently it's very easy to take apart and put back together again, because he did it multiple times, like overnight, with a couple of different people. So apparently the the razor crest is made of legos, because it was completely stripped and then put back together overnight. So I mean, what are you gonna do? So, yeah, the razor crest, absolutely love it. So next up is goran shards. Uh, corsair, I think it. I don't think it has a name and if it does, I wasn't able to find one. So, keeper of the Holocron, maybe you'd have better luck than I did. I don't know. I couldn't find it. All I could find was that it was a Cumulus-class Corsair. What?
Speaker 2:do you like about?
Speaker 1:it. Just look at it Again to our listeners. I'm sorry, it just looks so mean, like it just it screams pirate ship. I mean it really does. It doesn't look like it's bristling with weapons and it doesn't look like anything else. It doesn't look like it's a repurposed Imperial ship. It doesn't look like a repurposed Republic ship. It's very much its own thing. And it looks like and I like pirate stuff anyway and it just looks like it gets shit done.
Speaker 2:I like that. It's got the guns underneath, it's a pirate ship, it's got plenty of firepower.
Speaker 1:but I also like the fact that it's also part aircraft carrier yeah, yeah, I mean because think about like pirate ships would go into a port and lay siege to a town, you know, and when you're overhead it, it makes sense to have all that, those cannons underneath. And we saw that in the Mandalorian. We saw the town you know besieged by this giant pirate ship and it's just, she's a thing of beauty. She's a thing of beauty, that's it.
Speaker 3:She does not have an official name. She is just listed as it's a cumulus class Corsair, but it does not have an official name of its own.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you you, keeper of the holocron. I appreciate that, um, all right, so number four, right, number four is the vt49 decimator. It's an imperial craft and I love that stupid ship. I first encountered it playing star wars galaxies. I'm not going to get into that because we're going to be here for another hour and a half. I start talking about star wars galaxies, but that was my imperial home away from home.
Speaker 1:You could staff it with five other players, um, two or seven, I think it was seven. So you had two cannons up and down. You had pilot co-pilot up front, um, and then you had three spots that um, that were engineering sections, because as you start taking damage, plasma conduits would rupture and you would need people to run around the ship repairing the plasma conduits. It was a lot of fun to get into fights with that thing. Whether you're doing PVP or PVE, pvp or pve, you know when things really start. You know hitting the, hitting the fan and plasma starts rupturing and your shields start going down and you've got your friends running around the ship. It was, it was a good time, um, and it's popped up. I think it's in the um, it's in star wars x-wing, the, the miniature game, uh, and it's just. It's a beautiful ship all the way around. And then, finally, my number one favorite. I have a couple of honorable mentions, but my number one favorite ship, the royal guard tie interceptor. A thing of beauty is that von regs?
Speaker 3:say again is that major von regs?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, that's uh. He has a complete different ship. He has an interceptor, but it's not. It's not this, this was oh. Sherry said that I think she was talking about the Corsair. Looks like it would be an alien ship from the movie Alien, yeah, or a bird of prey.
Speaker 2:It does it definitely does have it, gives it five, yeah, yeah absolutely, or a bird of prey. It definitely does have. It gives it a five. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:This I was first introduced to again in Star Wars Galaxies and it's just like a souped-up TIE interceptor that was used to escort the Emperor's ships. So we don't get to see it on screen. And if I may brag, I am oh, please do me, let me go ahead and brag on this, because you know why not? Um, on my official 501st trading card, in my tie pilot, I'm the only one at well, I don't know about anymore, but at the time I was the only one that had that was authorized to have the red tie interceptor, the royal guard, intercept as my background image on my official card.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 2:Do you think the Royal Guards would they wear the standard black or would they have a red version of the TIE Pilot?
Speaker 1:I don't think that it was flown by actual royal guards um themselves. Uh, I think it was um, uh, it was just really like hardcore elite tie pilots um who were, uh, who were flying it okay, um I'm just having this image of, like the old kenner action figure toy.
Speaker 2:Like somebody's stuffing their royal guard figure into a tie intercepter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't that they were just like the elite. So think like you know, like 101st yeah you're 181st.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, uh, you know the the 184 inferno squad would be a good possible. Yeah, like a variant where like it's the black uniform, but maybe with some red accents yeah, yeah, and I'll share.
Speaker 1:Uh, I'll share my, uh, my honorable mention, which does actually um, um, tie into the show and um, let's see, nope, it's not doing it, it won't share from there. Okay, maybe I have to reshare, I don't know. There we go, there we go. That is the Catoony light freighter, that's hondo's freighter and he named it the katuni. Oh so how cool is that and it's a good looking ship. Oh yeah, it's not. I mean, admittedly, it's cool, but it's not as awesome as the flying saucers, the Corona-class flying saucers that Hondo uses. Those are just badass, I mean, because they're just so obnoxious. Of course Hondo is going to be flying around in a freaking flying saucer. Of course, how could he not?
Speaker 2:And for as much as Star Wars likes to draw on retro sci-fi, it was just such a great callback to like hey look, an actual flying saucer.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. So there you go. Those are our top five ships. We should do top fives more often, but maybe have more prep time, because Live and learn.
Speaker 1:Live and learn. So we'll do another top five. Let us know what you think our next top five should be. I know listicles are kind of uh, you know they're easy content, but it's fun because everyone has their different versions of their you know their, their favorites or their least favorites. So maybe we should do droids next, or fight scenes, you know, or battles, you know, whatever, whatever you think, so let us know in the comments. Um, and we'll, uh, we will try to accommodate hey, hmm, tony you may have noticed swag.
Speaker 2:Where did I get?
Speaker 1:this lovely shirt. Well, speaking of swag, so funny that you you mentioned that it's time to do our pimping, right? So, before we head out, we're going to do some obligatory pimpage on our gear. Check us out on all social media at the sws show, and be sure to subscribe to the podcast and our youtube channel. And if you'd like some of this fancy merch that we're wearing tony's in his work, his work gear, so he can't, uh, he can't put it on, but, uh, that's okay. So head on over to our website, circle circle of nursecom, slash merch, um, and you can uh get some of this sweet, sweet swag and find out what we're watching for the rest of our season, which uh brings us up to your homework. So, homework for next week, star warriors, we want you to watch season five, episode 10, 11, 12, and 13.
Speaker 1:It's a droid arc, but a droid arc with a bit of a surprise. So I was pleasantly surprised by this. This is a good story arc. You think droids it's gonna be cute for kids. It's good stuff. It deals with some very mature themes as well, so it's a very, very good art. Um, do you guys have anything on the way out?
Speaker 2:well, I just a quick thing. I uh my best friend growing up, his dad, passed away this week. I just want to give a shout out to the hess family.
Speaker 1:Uh, we're, uh, we're thinking to you guys, so all right, absolutely all right, yep, shout out to the house family, all right, yeah, all right. So that's gonna do it, uh, for us. So thank you so much for joining us, as you do every week. Uh, we do appreciate you. You could be spending your time anywhere else, but you choose to spend it with us. And, of course, as always, a very, very special tip of the hat to all of our active duty service members and veterans around the globe who make so many sacrifices to ensure our freedom and our democracy our level of democracy that we have anyway. But yes.
Speaker 1:So thank you for your service and your sacrifice. You will always be appreciated here on our show and that's going to do it for us, and if nobody has anything else, you guys are all good. No good, that's it, all right. All right, so I guess that's undue for us. I feel like I've like I've never done this before, but I have. I've done this so many times that I don't know. All right, so check us out next week. Do your homework and, as always, remember, if nobody does anything nice for you, do something nice to yourself, and we'll see you all next week. Bye you.