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Padawans, Pirates, and a Kit named Fisto
Is Ahsoka Tano the best-written character in Star Wars history? Join us this week on "Star Wars Sucks" as we entertain this bold claim and explore The Clone Wars, Season 1, Episodes 9 through 12.
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Hey everybody, this week on Star Wars Sucks, we're getting full on filler and sadly adding another trooper to our wall of remembrance. All that and more this week on Star Wars Sucks. Stick around, howdy succulents. Welcome to Star Wars Sucks, your non-toxic, low-sodium Star Wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that the protocol droid C-3PO made by a nine-year-old, anakin Skywalker, is fluent in over six million forms of communication. So, whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious, this is your Star Wars safe space. We are the Circle of Nerds and we do absolutely love Star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So let's meet the nerds, shall we? To my left, your right star of stage and screen it is the sensational Sherry.
Speaker 3:Hello everyone.
Speaker 1:How you doing.
Speaker 3:I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1:doing.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I missed last week.
Speaker 1:That's all right Things happen. You were off on a gig right Doing something sensational.
Speaker 3:Yep, something sensational.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that was but sitting with my brother. That's okay, but sensational with my brother. That's okay, but sensational nonetheless. That's right, all right, and hailing from parts unknown, it is t to the only that's you, buddy. Welcome back everybody tony, are you right? Tony's like zoned out works hard. I'm in I'm good, I know you're here, are you okay? I'm great okay, all right, all right, uh, and joining us once again, welcome the daring and courageous pilot of the infamous parma flyer.
Speaker 2:It's crash how's it going, everybody?
Speaker 1:hey, how you doing.
Speaker 2:Welcome back thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Of course, of course, nobody else will.
Speaker 4:Right no.
Speaker 2:Cold, but true.
Speaker 1:And I am Tommy D, your more than slightly obnoxious Star Wars know-it-all. So what are we doing here? Our mission is to watch all of the canon Star Wars films and TV shows in chronological order, breaking them down, connecting the dots and learning a bit more about Star Wars, and maybe a little something about ourselves along the way. So warning up front, there will be spoilers. So last week we said homework for this week was Star Wars, the Clone Wars Wars, season 1, episodes 9 through 12. So we are continuing on that journey. So, coming out between December 2008 and January 2009, and all episodes take place approximately 21 BBY this batch starts putting more things together and begins introducing us to new characters. These episodes are arguably filler, uh, but we do begin to see the foundations for other things that are yet to come. So while these may feel like filler, they kind of are, but we're still seeing some relationships develop that will come into play in further seasons. So you know you gotta bear through a little bit of this. So there's, it's the Clone Wars. There's seven seasons and 22 episodes per season. So there's going to be some filler here and there. You know, that's what you got. That's what you got.
Speaker 1:So a quick note on BBY, aby, the events of star Wars, a new hope, the first star Wars film, which was released in 1977. Those events are considered year zero on the timeline. So anything happening before that is BBY or before the Battle of Yavin. Anything after that is ABY or after the Battle of Yavin. So you'll hear us using those terms from time to time, so just so you are aware. So let's get things going. Everybody's doing okay. I feel kind of like me today. I don't know, maybe it's the episodes, I don't know. I'm not like hype. I mean I don't want to say I'm not hype, I mean I like doing the show, but I'm just like I feel like the show.
Speaker 2:The show hadn't really gotten its legs going yet, and you'll kind of see that in these episodes, but there's bits to them that are kind of fascinating. You're like okay, this had potential. You can kind of see where, where they were experimenting with stuff and stuff that didn't work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know Well, for like episode nine, I thought Ahsoka, I like how they show she's got different, basically mentors, even though Anakin's her master. I like that it takes a village. She's taking a little bit from everybody, um, and obviously I know you know when she's grown up, but, um, I think it just shows part of her personality.
Speaker 1:So I thought I thought that was kind of cool yeah, and it's, it's nice, I agree it's nice seeing her learning from some other folks, and there was, um, there was there was a moment where she was kind of getting you know a little, a little sassy um well, most of the episodes she was sad well, yeah, and uh, uh um luminara master, unduly, uh, she kind of she gave heruli, she gave her that look.
Speaker 3:She gave her that mom look she did.
Speaker 1:She gave her that mom. Look, she was like look that, look like I'm not Anakin. No, no, master Unduli does not play that young lady. No, absolutely not. And Ahsoka was about to jump down the lift tube like let's go, and she had to snatch her like nope, not gonna do it, not today, young padawan. So that was. It was nice kind of seeing that dynamic. And then later on we're gonna meet barris offy, that's, that's um master, uh, kundali's Padawan, and she plays a big part. So I mean, but we're gonna, we'll get more into that, but and that was the part that kind of threw me off.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. Okay, that's the part that kind of threw me off about this episode. I know we're kind of seeing things through his eyes.
Speaker 2:She sort of the care the audience's point of view into this show early on. But part of me was like I understand this episode's about betrayal and intercluke and deception and all that. But I was like, wait a minute, you just got assigned to a master to train you, to teach you, and we're shipping her off for a a weekend with aunt luminara for, like, what's going on? I think because it doesn't work. When she, if it was anakin and ahsoka escorting gunray and you know, somebody from within you know betrays them, that would have been like super red flag for anakin about the republic and oh, there's bad guys on our side. So I get that they were introducing new characters, like with luminar. But I'm like why didn't we just do this with luminar and barris? But we're, we're five, we're five episodes in, we gotta keep. We gotta keep introducing the audience to this new character. So we'll put her with Luminar for a week and I was like, wait a minute, that's just why isn't she with Anakin?
Speaker 2:I think Palpatine would have, or vice versa, because Anakin would not have worked in this story.
Speaker 1:Anakin was getting captured. At this time, part of that mission was still happening.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to you know. Okay, they were separated for a reason. Blah blah blah. She goes off with Luminar, but it just felt off in that Luminar is a very straightforward by the book Jedi.
Speaker 3:She's escorting the prisoner and she's got someone else's Pada needed for the story later on to show Ahsoka's ascent to who she becomes, because obviously she loves Anakin and we know later on what happens. But I think that was the point. To be honest, that's what I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree it did feel weird because this episode was doing a lot of heavy lifting. We're introducing Ventress to Ahsoka, we're introducing Luminara to the audience, we're introducing traitors within the Republic. It was like hold on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got that pretty Hercules looking ass. Uh, senate commando, that dude. What's his name, captain argyle, captain argus yeah yes, captain argyle, I don't know so, but yeah, there was. I agree there was a lot going on this episode, tony. What do you think, man, what would you weigh in on this one?
Speaker 4:so I agree with what's already been said. Uh, it was definitely, you know, because they didn't really explain it off the go. Like you know, my mind up absolutely went to the why is ahsoka here as opposed to where we think should be? Um, that said it did work for the storyline and that was fine.
Speaker 4:Um, I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself here, but uh, her, you know, going to jump down the, the lift shaft uh yeah, we basically see anakin do the exact same thing, chasing after duke going a couple episodes oh yeah, and see, well, that's where she gets from, so yeah oh, all the time.
Speaker 1:Well, what in uh? What was it? Was it episode? Was it episode eight? When they, when they went to the um, the separatist sphere, to rescue r2 and destroy that listening post? Yes and they had to, like jump from the ship. Everybody, you know, obviously the, the clone troopers have their, their jet packs and anakin and ahsoka can use the force to get down. But she was the first one she's like let's go off. I mean, she just ran, jumped, she just went for it I thought she had.
Speaker 3:I thought they had parachutes. No, I was like where's their parachute?
Speaker 1:I don't need no stinking parachute I got caught up.
Speaker 3:I watched those today too, but what?
Speaker 2:what year at the jedi temple do you get trained? Okay, we're gonna jump out of a plane without a parachute and go.
Speaker 1:Right, that's a great point. Like what class is that Jumping off high shit At what point? But the young Jedi did that and young Jedi adventures. They were jumping off 80 foot cliffs and shit.
Speaker 3:That's because they're taught with no adult supervision. I mean look at where they get training. The temple, their temple, I mean look at the where they get training the temple, their temple. It's pretty high. I bet you they make them go up there and jump off of it. Yeah, Like today, younglings you're going to learn to use the force for land. Now, granted you better tap into it. You know there's masters at the bottom. Just in case to catch them, come on.
Speaker 1:Maybe there is, I don't know, man. It's like when I was a kid, you know mom pushed me in the pool sink or swim. Sink or swim. Maybe it's the uh like, maybe it's the same thing with the younglings. You know, tap or tap or splat. Tap into the the force or splat no no, yoda would never see, and that's why.
Speaker 1:That's why the jedi should have been spartans, because a spartan would have just let him split in sparta, you would have been discarded, all right so no, I'm just kidding, I'm sorry so this episode is kind of a uh continuation off of the week prior because you know, we uh that was the one with jar, jar and padme, so they, they captured voice vice ray, nuke gunray, who is just still salty as fuck over the events of the Phantom Menace. So it's like he is still salty with Padme over shit that happened like 10 years ago, actually probably 20 years, almost, not not 20, but 12, 13 years ago. He just stays salty, he just he's not happy about that. So but you know, I don't know, what do you guys think? Is this? Uh, watch it, skip it. A person, I think, watch every episode filler or not oh yeah, because there is still little tidbits, but it's definitely not an essential episode.
Speaker 2:What would you know, it's not a must see kind of like if you're gonna introduce somebody to the Clone Wars era of Star Wars, you're going to go. Oh my gosh, you've got to watch Clone Wars. Other than the banter between Asajj Ventress and Snips versus the witch, there was some good sass going back and forth between those two. What did she call her?
Speaker 1:A harpy.
Speaker 2:The hairless harpy yeah, the hairless harpy and it was like you could just see where, okay, we're going to take these two and there's going to be a little feud between them and our master. Oh yeah, they were kind of playing ventures for the long run and you could tell this was a great introduction to the apprentice getting addition. Just like in the last story arc, ahsoka gets to go one-on-one with grievous and you're like there's a mismatch. But she held her own and then she holds her own against ventress and it's, it's it again. They were building up ahsoka as not the main character, but the audiences, the young, the kids, and the audience's perspective of okay, you're a kid, you're a jedi, go fight this general grievous guy, go. You know how would you forget?
Speaker 1:you know, and that they can relate to these big situations ahsoka keeps finding yourself in ahsoka is the target audience for this first season of the clone wars and, yeah, you know a lot of people, a lot of people do shit on the first few seasons of the Clone Wars saying, oh, it's for kids, it's for kids, yeah it is, it's absolutely for kids and it's. It's kind of brilliant if you think about it, because Clone Wars went on for seven seasons and as as the target demographic, as that audience matures, so do the stories like oh yeah, they get to a, to a yeah, like a dark degree I mean.
Speaker 1:So you know, as as these, as these young children that are watching the show start transitioning into their, their early and mid-teens. You know it's like harry potter. You know harry potter is generational. You know you've got kids that they grew up. Their first film was Harry Potter and that went on for 10 plus years, those movies. So you're growing up with them and so you can really relate to those characters. I agree with you. I think Ahsoka she's definitely the point of interest here Again, not the main character, but I think we do eventually get a nice balance between characters you know the show's kind of.
Speaker 2:The show's kind of cursed with a double-edged sword or lightsaber, if you will. Every, almost everybody we know as a main character in the show we know is going to make it to episode three. And before we figured out where ahsoka fit into that puzzle and why is yeah, everybody comes. As soon as they introduced her, the first words out of everybody's mouth oh stupid kid was well, she wasn't in revenge of the sith, so she's got to die, right?
Speaker 2:no, we're gonna get to that right and, but it was just she, so she's the one of the few character. Her and rex are one of the few characters that had potential for new story, new directions. That wasn't like oh yeah, padme's in danger, but don't worry, she survives. Or Anakin, oh God, no, he's fine.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, like with R2. It's like you know R2 is not going to get scrapped. I mean it's like. But like with characters like Ahsoka, initially when you're watching it for the first time and hopefully you know we're not spoiling us for anybody but, um, like when you're watching this for the first time, it's like, yeah, you do have that mentality like, well, we don't see ahsoka in any of the movies and this was the first time in over 10 years that we're getting new star wars content, so we have nothing else to really go on. When this came out and it's like, well, does ahsoka have plot armor or not like at any, because we don't see her anywhere else. You know, we don't see her in the original trilogy, so all we can do is speculate that sometime between the clone wars and the original trilogy she's sauced.
Speaker 3:I think that's the fun of it. Yeah, because you don't know, Because you're going to get attached to her, which I know I have.
Speaker 1:But I know beyond this, of course, and it's a great character and then, like I said, seeing this now as we get to the Ahsoka live live action series, there's a couple scenes in there that become more heart-wrenching once you see the development of ahsoka now, you know, when you see her relationship with anakin and obi-wan and you know even r2e, you know it's like and rex you know, captain rex there's a scene in rebels that it every time, every time I see I don't want to say you know specifically what it is there's a specific scene in rebels that gets me every single time.
Speaker 1:I see it instantly. I water done, hand me a weakness tissue because I'm done. I'm done, it's just, I'm passing eye water like it's crazy, so it's out of control. The emotional toll of these cartoons cannot be overstated.
Speaker 2:And Tommy knows this my sister I call her Snips because she's 10 years younger than me and she came up through the Star Wars fan groups. We were hanging out together and everybody all the guys my age sort of dismissed her right away. Oh, it's crash the sister. It's just that. That's just that kid, just like she is smarter than 90% of the dudes. I know she's smarter than me.
Speaker 2:And when Ahsoka came out, the first trailer popped out and and there's this moment where we're like Obi-Wan, are you crushing another ship? And she just pops her hand and goes, yes, like totally sea blocking it again in front of Obi-Wan. I'm like holy hell, that's my sister. And that's when I started calling her Snips and it just stuck. And she is a big Ashley Eckstein fan. Ashley knows us.
Speaker 2:For years now we've been going to all these conventions and stuff when we meet her and we told her, I told, we told her the story. She knows about her nickname, she knows that it came from and it's like that character resonated with I call the prequel babies. Yeah, that's like my sister. Yeah, she grew up on phantom menace, attack of the clones. That era of star wars was when she became a fan in her own right and clone wars was beautiful and ahsoka was beautiful because dave said okay, prequel babies. Here's this new character. We're going to drop into the middle of this timeline that you already know and we're going to do some stuff and we know we're not going to see her later on, but we're not going to tell you why. So just go along for the ride what as somebody likes to say and maybe learn a little something about ourselves along the way ahsoka is arguably one of the the best written characters in the franchise.
Speaker 1:um, I would say she. She's either on par with Anakin, because Anakin has a great story, a great story, great redemption arc. It's beautiful. But it's like, even with the redemption arc, ahsoka doesn't have one or need a redemption arc, but she carries the weight of Anakin's actions, yes, and they covered that beautifully in Ahsoka.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, but she carries the weight of Anakin's actions. Yes, and, and they covered that beautifully in Ahsoka. I'm sorry they covered that part of her beautifully in the. As a grownup, having lived through her master's failure and the burden of that on her, even though it wasn't her fault, I can't wait to say oh my gosh, I left him and he became this I can't wait. Oh my gosh, I left him and he became this.
Speaker 1:I can't. I can't wait to to start getting to deeper into that as we get into the clone wars and rebels, and then we got a long way to go before we can get through the soga tv series. So, all right, you know what I thought about throwing in. Like every now and then I'll when I'm researching stuff too online, I'll find like people will post continuity errors which are kind of fun. Sherry, I think we found a couple. But in this one, in this episode, when Ahsoka arrives, she's seen carrying Luminara's lightsaber and she cuts Luminara free with it and then hands it back to her, and then the whole time her own lightsaber isn't clipped to her belt or seen anywhere. But then when Ventress attacks, suddenly Ahsoka has her lightsaber. So that's just one of those like silly little things like to look for. So go back to go back in the episode and check it out. It's it's nice to point things out, um.
Speaker 3:I think my issue was the the butt plug ship that was. That was weird. I mean, they look like butt plugs. I mean, come on, the boarding craft. Yes, come on.
Speaker 1:And then they were spilling their load all over the deck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they just popped in and.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was actually one of my biggest questions when it came to this episode is, like you know, I thought the whole concept of the ships having armor is that you're not supposed to be able to do that Like between armor and shields, armor and shields how the fuck do you just? No, it's okay, we're just going to go right through it, it's fine.
Speaker 3:They must have had loot. That's funny, that's fair.
Speaker 1:But then it does make you wonder. No one said this is kid friendly, you know, yeah, we know that. Just saying so, since papa palpy is working both sides of this right, it could stand to reason that, sherry, when I mentioned papa, papa palpy, your face, just like you're like that motherfucker I mean he is just wow.
Speaker 3:I mean it doesn't matter what anybody does or any side, he's going to win, he wins, yeah, no matter what, either way, but anyway, he is the worst.
Speaker 1:I digress, but I'm wondering. Essentially, he's having all these things made, so is he sharing the strengths and weaknesses? Is he sharing the strengths and weaknesses you know? So you know the, the folks that are making the separatist you know landing craft, are they aware of the weaknesses of the Republic ships so they're able to design these boarding craft in order to penetrate deep?
Speaker 3:I'm really deep. I'm going to say a little. Who knows, maybe not all of it, because he still wants well, yeah, you got to make it, you got to make it look good. You got to sell it. Yeah, you got to sell it.
Speaker 1:All right, uh, moving on. All right, we just, we just did 20 minutes on that one, jesus christ. No, it's fine, it's okay. So so this one, the lair of grievous, pretty interesting episode, um we're, we're off the the new gunray thing now, and then, this time once again, we have the jedi and the clones breaking into someone's house well, they didn't know the home of a decorated war hero.
Speaker 2:General grievous they didn't know. Well, it's kind of a continuation, because they were chasing the, the escape of gunray to this place and they and so it's kind of an indirect yeah but now the episodes are all starting to tie together a little bit more, instead of being like one-offs that motherfucker knew what he was.
Speaker 3:Of course he did. He said, of course, general grievous but I just you know again.
Speaker 1:You know who police is the police, who police is the jedi breaking into people's homes uninvited and and grievous is a decorated worker.
Speaker 2:He's okay, karen travis settle down I'm just saying. I'm just saying they also killed the poor guy's dog yeah, killed his dog, yeah killed his dog what was his name?
Speaker 1:grow grew gore, gore yeah, I was like no little baby gore. Like fucked him up, cut off his tail his hands and just do you notice that?
Speaker 3:well, I mean, that's a trend decapitation I mean luke's killed a baby, an animal yeah, everybody kills animals so so the you know, obviously you know, there's no with the jedi.
Speaker 1:It's a trend. They, they, they break into people's homes. They've been doing that since the acolyte, clearly, yeah, you know. And they kill people's pets.
Speaker 4:Yeah, luke killed a health care worker, by the way, what they also killed a health care worker by the way they did kill a healthcare worker.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:You're right, he is a dick, but he's a healthcare worker, he's not a combatant.
Speaker 1:He did not. He did not have a good bedside manner. But, tony, you're absolutely right, he was a non-combatant, that's true, and he was there to assist a disabled veteran, that's true. And they they cut his head off.
Speaker 3:Well, they cut his legs, oh well, his head yeah, yeah, ev4 or eva4d listen. So my question about the animals. We know the jedi can use some mind powers on motherfucking animals we've seen it so why would you have to kill it?
Speaker 1:Poor gore.
Speaker 3:Just use your Jedi mind trick and have them sit down or some shit.
Speaker 1:Where's the APL? Where's the APL, the Animal Protective League? Where are they?
Speaker 3:Ahsoka didn't kill her Hellcat, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she got attacked by a saber tooth tiger and she was an infant and everything was cool, right. But no, the Jedi come in.
Speaker 3:Lightsabers are swinging, it's like oh, it's attacking me, I gotta kill it break into my home and kill my pet.
Speaker 1:See what happens. I'm just saying, I'm just saying and again, kit fisto, smiley, smiley motherfucker, he really does smile he
Speaker 3:smiles a lot I gotta say.
Speaker 4:One of my notes on this particular episode is however they animated his eyes is just cool as fuck.
Speaker 3:You're right, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3:He's high and he looks Jamaican. I'm just joking.
Speaker 1:I mean well yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, he's pretty chill yeah, he is chill he's either high or on some, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But he's high on the force. Oh, I mean, that's all that's.
Speaker 4:He's high on the force, man it's like you know him and Yoda been hitting the pipe together. It's fine you know they do.
Speaker 3:Yikes, come on, come on. And how about his Padawan? How many opportunities he missed to say it's a trap. I was pissed, I was like come on, dave.
Speaker 2:Can we at least give Phil Lamar some credit For that character. We've known him for a while as just the face, the smile, the voice was just dead on. Perfect for that character.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:A deep Jamaican. Oh, forget this. Yeah, yeah, a deep Jamaican. I don't know what you would, oh, forget this as soon as he spoke, it was like yeah, man, that's what he sounded like, yeah.
Speaker 3:He was. Yeah, I liked him, he was chill. I'm sad his Padawan died. I mean, I didn't know him that well, or anything but that was sad.
Speaker 2:And even though and that was sad, but it was also you could tell that was almost like the early hint of dave filoni's samurai movie, like if you loved ahsoka, this was the pre preamble for that like there was a very samurai vibe to this episode yes, there was, but but it's like statues of uh statues of Grievous before his accident before he became a disabled veteran.
Speaker 4:I gotta say the way they took out the young Jedi Knight in this one very much reminded me of how they took out Jackie.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm holding my own.
Speaker 3:Oh you sneaky bitch but grievous, straight up, just bucked him down, blasted him, but he, he was angry, he was, he was emotional, and I think that's what happened, like well, he went in angry, he was ready to fight he went in angry he did so jackie, yeah, jackie she.
Speaker 4:I don't feel she was angry, I feel she was just doing she was aggressive, but without being angry right, yeah, I, I yeah I'm not comparing the characters as far as their arcs, I'm just saying the way they died yeah, that same yeah and yeah like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she got prison shanked and he got yeah, he did I mean yeah, I mean yeah. He uh, it was grievous pulled out that that blaster pistol and just I was like pew pew pew killed her with a clone pistol I killed him with yeah yeah, poor, uh, poor veb, but uh yeah, so many as a mon calamari. So many opportunities for him to say it's a trap.
Speaker 3:So many opportunities yeah, I'm sorry, it was a missed opportunity. I was waiting for it because I was like, oh, is he gonna say it? And I know that's stupid, but it's just fun you can't use that phrase only we can use that phrase.
Speaker 1:They resent that stereotype oh, it's so you know, all right you know what it's a stereotype it's a negative stereotype, we'll retract it. It's a it's. Maybe it's a little bit racist to just assume that all mon calamari say that, so it's I didn't say, they all say that I thought what I don't know, let's just before we get in, let's just retract it, and I'm not retracting, I might, I might, we'll edit that out. We'll fix that in post because we can't, we can't, I don't know.
Speaker 3:The only reason I like it is because of Big Bang, big Bang Theory.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sheldon does that.
Speaker 3:So if you know, you know. So oh wait it was a.
Speaker 1:it was a fun. It was a fun episode. It was nice to see a little teeny, tiny little peek into Grievous' past. They really didn't connect a lot of those dots. For us it was interesting. It was interesting to get just that little bit of a peek. And also we do like to remember fallen troopers. So we're going to get to that point now in the show where we remember because it was in this episode where we remember fallen troopers who meet particularly gruesome ends. So this week we're remembering Molten Incinerator, vat Trooper. Rest in power, king. He fell to his death in an oddly placed molten pit. But yeah, thoughts and prayers, we'll have to put them on a t-shirt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll put a drink.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, who was the clone commander that was with them, phil? There was Niner and Bell, but I think they were Niner and Bell were outside. They were guarding the ship. I think, uh, I think, commander phil you said phil phil like straight up, just phil not phil.
Speaker 1:Like, hey, my name is philip, not that, but uh like phil, I don't yeah, phil, like, probably probably f-i-l. Okay, because like, like, like in in the. Uh, what was it in the episode with the with the rookies? Um, heavy like his. Oh yeah, his name is spelled h-e-v-y, it's not h-e-a-v-y so it's so. Phil is probably fil so anyway. So thoughts and prayers. I need to get some sad music to play for that, maybe a little. You know, sarah McLaughlin, look lock McLaughlin, mclaughlin or McLaughlin. How do you? I don't know.
Speaker 4:I will remember yeah yeah, I was gonna go in the arms of the angel, but okay, yeah that's the one, too, that'll work yeah we're gonna get a copyright strike, though, if we do that, so we can't, we'll have to, we'll have to carry it out.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's pretty old. Yeah, we're gonna get a copyright strike though if we do that, so we can't, we'll have to, just we'll have to carry it out. I mean, it's pretty old made it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna fuck around. We can't afford a copyright strike at this point. Fuck around and find out, all right. So, lair of grievous, what are we thinking?
Speaker 1:this lair was cool yeah, skip it, watch it. I mean not skip it, let's. Let's not say skip, watch them. Yes, watch them all. But would we consider this? Did anything really really important happen in this episode and the last one? We did get to see a little more growth with Ahsoka, and you know. Oh, and another thing about Ahsoka in the last episode I just remembered she's a savage. She's a savage. She's a savage. When she was facing off against asajj ventress, she was like I'm gonna give you a merciful death. She didn't say I'm gonna bring you to justice or I'm gonna defeat you. She straight up said I am going to sauce you. You are, you are getting murked today, you hairless heartbeat unalive.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's you're supposed to say unalive, which she was straight up trying to unalive the hairless harpy sauce.
Speaker 3:It's fine sauce.
Speaker 1:She was gonna kill her. She was gonna fucking kill. I will give you a merciful death well, that's after.
Speaker 3:She called her a hairless harpy no yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1:And a witch, a bog witch, a bog witch, yeah.
Speaker 3:God, I kind of want that to be my name.
Speaker 1:The bog witch. The bog witch. I can change that for you right now. The bog witch Done. We're going to make that happen for you, no worries. I mean no one's going to see it because it's you know.
Speaker 3:Because you suck, you know, because you saw, I'm just kidding, yeah all right, there we go.
Speaker 1:You are now. You are now the bog witch. Let it be said, let it be known, let it be written, let it be done on this day in the year of someone's lord, august 2nd I'm mine the sensational sherry has now been dubbed the bog witch. All right anyway. So the lair of grievous, uh, does anyone feel like anything like really poignant happened?
Speaker 4:so I thought there was going to be something fairly poignant. Um, and they didn't take it as far as I was hoping they would. Um, when the doctor is working on grievous and he's like you know, why did you agree to the procedures? Yeah, and like, and then he mentions yeah, you might feel something here. Like it looked for a second, like that you were going to take off his mask and you were actually going to see whatever is left of his face and like it felt like the right time to just do like a quick, you know flashback to whatever caused him to make those decisions. And like in that moment I was like, oh, yes, yes, show me, I want to see this. And then we just didn't. I was like, oh, but um, it definitely made me want to know more about the character pre his operations right, and that's why they showed the statues.
Speaker 3:But that wasn't sufficient, right flashback? You're right, it would have been great.
Speaker 1:Just a little snippet, yeah and he was like there he said uh and grievous was mad. He was like their enhancements. You know he was. He was very adamant about that, so he knows that he is disabled.
Speaker 3:He's not disabled.
Speaker 1:But he's handy capable, correct.
Speaker 2:I can't remember if it was Dave or George who said that Grievous was a prototype to Vader. You were talking about Palpatine and how he manipulates. Grievous was a prototype to Vader. Like you were talking about Palpatine and how he manipulates situations. Grievous is the beta testing for what Vader becomes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's fascinating to see the upgrading and process where it's like he sees it as an upgrade, whereas Anakin you know in the lore and stuff that first version of Vader was kind of lowest bidding budget, kind of cheap, and then in his overtime he upgrades himself, Whereas Grievous kept thinking he was the upgrade.
Speaker 1:Right, right and Filoni. I'm reading right here. It says Filoni said I tend to think of this episode as more of a look into the mind of Grievous, you know, to kind of get a little bit more of a connection to Grievous. I don't know if we really got that.
Speaker 3:I think he, just like I said, he just tried with the whole, with the rooms and then what he said to the doc, right that, but he didn't have a lot of time either right they're 26 minutes or whatever, so yeah, so maybe, maybe we need, you know, like we had tales of the jedi, you know, we had that nice little story with dooku.
Speaker 1:We got a little bit more connected to dooku. I'd like to see something like that about grievous. Oh yeah, you know, maybe pre pre-war grievous yeah, I agree with yeah, they're great.
Speaker 2:It'd be a great filler like a tales of the you know tales of kind of story. I don't know if they would have wasted a whole clone wars episode on it. That's why you got a little statues, little hints of it, but you really can't go into. Oh, here's let me explain my tragic backstory to you. While these two Jedi are are are hunting me through my own building Right.
Speaker 1:So we got a little. We got a little, a little taste of it. Um, and you know what's cool is like you can like in the, in the books I don't think it's canon anymore, but it it might anymore, but it it might, it might be eu. But um, dooku shoots down grievous and then puts them back together and basically says, oh, I saved you. And that's that's how grievous gets working for dooku. Um, he kind of has a life debt with with dooku.
Speaker 3:But even though it was all set up right but that.
Speaker 1:But that's just one that you know. If, if you buy into that, if you believe that, cool. But then you know, in this version we're seeing something a little bit different. So it kind of like leaves it up to the viewer, like what do you want to? What story about Grievous do you want to believe? You know, because either either way it could, it could work. So All right. So that's the lair of grievous, not essential, but uh, worth watching. And again, you know, thoughts and prayers to molten, incinerator, vat trooper, poor guy, all right. So moving on, we've got episode 11 and 12, kind of a two-parter. Um, the, the boys go to uh, verify that duke who was in fact captured by pirates. Um, we get to see one of my favorite characters, hondo. What a cool guy he is. Of course he's a he's a weak way pirate, um, and he, he gets around. We, he's. Uh, we're gonna see a lot more of hondo I just what I just don't understand how dooku even got captured.
Speaker 3:He's pretty powerful. He could have took them out. I know he was stuck on the planet, but I I don't know. I just I just the way we've been following him.
Speaker 3:I just don't see him succumbing to that everything happens for a reason oh, I know everything is set up for a reason so I don't know if like palp, like palp team told him like just do it, dude. So you know it was a set up. I'm assuming that's all I can. That's all. I just thought that was weird because duke is powerful as fuck could do he could have choked all of those motherfuckers out all at once.
Speaker 1:To be honest, or at least, like force, push them away right to get himself in a position to start, you know, start cutting motherfuckers up.
Speaker 3:Obviously, it was set up.
Speaker 1:Okay, because he did kind of go easy.
Speaker 3:I mean, come on, he just walked out all calm Like, oh okay, Just go ahead and take it. I'm like what, what the fuck?
Speaker 1:What are you guys' thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:I wonder if he was. First we start off, he's captured Anakin, whether that was a setup or they were trying to. You know, please bring me aboard your ship, Dooku, against Hondo's pirates. But yeah, he's powerful, he's a Sith, but like Ahsoka, you see later on, where Anakin sort of trained her to defend against multiple shooters, I wonder if Dooku's fencing style was just not up to that. Maybe he just started like okay, this is a little more than I can take on at once. I will play the situation out. I can always fight my way out later.
Speaker 3:I don't think so, because I mean he's trained. I mean, what is it? Who was his fucking padawan? Another qui-gon, qui-gon, qui-gon did that shit and he learned from somebody. So I it's an.
Speaker 1:You know that's interesting. It's an interesting point because I I don't think, I don't, I don't recall anyway seeing Dooku do like ever doing anything big with the force Like we've seen you know. We've seen Mace Windu do some big shit We've seen. You know, we know he's powerful, we know Dooku's powerful. I mean he brought down that gigantic, big ass pipe thing on the boys, you know, attack the clones and in the cave.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he brought down the ceiling on the boys, you know attack the clones and in the cave.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he brought down the ceiling on the boys, but no, I think he has the capability. I just think they said, you know, set up could he have?
Speaker 1:could he have defended himself against that many pirates?
Speaker 4:my opinion is yeah yeah I don't think so no, tony, I think it's possible, but I also think he knew that that um obi-wan and anakin were after him to see can you fight that battle against the pirates and then also turn around and fight that battle against the jedi? Or is it better to just let yourself be taken so that you can fight another day?
Speaker 1:that's a good point, because he I mean he knew either way. Either way he's getting out of there. I mean the pirates are going to take him. He knew that they were going to probably ranting him off, otherwise it would have killed him on sight well, again, I think it was set up by poppin which is entirely possible.
Speaker 4:Honestly, it's whether it was intentional or is entirely possible. Honestly, it's whether it was intentional or not. It's kind of. The brilliance of the way that this is set up is that any potential plot hole can be explained by well Palpatine's playing both sides. He is. So anytime there's a question of, well, how does that make any sense? That's the answer.
Speaker 1:It's like the Force Well, especially the Ultimate Chief Code.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially once that ransom note comes in and Palpatine is informed that they have Dooku Right, not only does he send the ransom and the clone troopers to pay for it, but I'm sure as soon as he gets off the line with his people, it's like hey, but I'm sure as soon as he gets off the line with his people it's like I'm Sidious, now Get my boy, you know. So he's playing both sides, in that he is given information and then he distributes it out to both sides, as he needs to. Now, was that Dooku deliberately going into the hands of the pirates, or just once Hondo informs Palpatine that he has dooku? You know, it's the counter move, it's the oh, a new, fat new players in the game. I have to move my pieces accordingly to counter it.
Speaker 3:The thing is, dooku doesn't do anything really without palpatine and sidious well and and Duke was very smart person but he is smart. He's very smart, but he's not smart at the same time, cause he's still a pawn and he's still a puppet.
Speaker 1:He's a little arrogant. I mean his arrogance kind of gets to him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he's still a puppet. It doesn't even matter, because he's expendable.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But, he doesn't, he doesn't feel that way though, oh, I know he doesn't. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But he is.
Speaker 4:I will say and I'm curious as to your guys' thoughts on this when they have that hollow conversation between Hondo and Palpatine, to me I got the feeling from Padme in that she was basically stepping beyond what Palpatine wanted to do and basically saying fuck it, I'm just going to do it my damn self if you're not going to.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe, she's always been the wild card for Palpatine, correct, like she's the one thing that I've noticed that he can't anticipate, thing that I've noticed that he can't anticipate. Like he can count on her to do things for Anakin because he knows, he knows about their relationship but at the same time I think in some ways she is that wild card, like he knows exactly what Anakin's going to do. Anakin, you can read him like a book. You know what he's going to do. You know that he is going to do the right thing every time, even if it's going to cause mass destruction around him and he's going to get in all kinds of trouble. Everyone knows Anakin's going to do the right. He's going to do the wrong thing for the right reasons. Let's just say it like that. He'll do the wrong things for the right reasonspatine knows this. He can count on it, but I think padme throws him. I don't think she can. I don't think he can read her.
Speaker 3:He, she's a politician, but so is he. No, I, I know that, but she also knows how to play the game, so that's why I think it's hard for him to read her and I'm wondering if there's a certain level in the force with her. Oh yeah, of course, you know, of course there's something like Leah, used the force in politics without knowing. But Leah's dad. Oh yeah, leah was straight up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, Poppy. Poppy was a force sensitive. I mean she could do it a little bit.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I think, think, padme has a little, I mean to do politics. Well, I mean, I know she does.
Speaker 1:I know padme gets a little force in her. You know what I'm talking about yeah, then she gets to oh yeah, she gets some force in her at least twice.
Speaker 1:No, just once, because it's, you know, the twin anyway, all right, so that, uh, that two episode little arc there, why? I guess all four of these episodes were really tied together and kind of connected nicely. There was some nice overlap. Um, nice, seeing the pirates love Hondo. Hondo Anaka, cool character. We get to see him lots more. Um, and he also shows up at galaxy's edge. Is that a fact? I think he's, he's, yeah, he's, he's, he's on the.
Speaker 2:He's in the millennium falcon ride. You meet hondo because he's subleasing the falcon pursuit. And let me again, phil lamar was great in the last episode. His gift is jim coming. You know, that guy was just master class acting when he said okay, play an outlandish pirate and go. This is the first time we find him. Then, over the course of the show, you'll see that boy flip sides like a coin in an earthquake. It's beautiful, because every time he does it it's like oh yeah, of course I'll help you. Well, now I'm going to screw you over. Now I'm going to help you. Now I'm going to screw you over. He yeah, of course I'll help you. Well, now I'm going to screw you over. Now I'm going to help you. Now I'm going to screw you over. But he does it in a way that you see, I do love him. Every time, either way, it's like you can't be mad at him.
Speaker 1:He's the ultimate frenemy.
Speaker 3:He is.
Speaker 1:He is. He just stole your ship and left you stranded on Hoth in your boxer briefs and you're like you know, that's hondo. What are you gonna do when I catch up to him? I'm gonna have to fuck him up a little bit, but we're still gonna have drinks later. You know, it's like he's. He is that guy speaking of drinks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh jesus how did the boys get drugged when they switched the cups, they switched the mugs, we saw it we saw it it was a cool trick, just like spinning and then they weren't at the bar, yeah, and then, all of a sudden, the next episode, they're in it was the hangover episode yeah they apparently they just drugged all the jawa juice that was yeah, but they because the two guys next to them passed out. I'm gonna say maybe passed out jedi have a higher constitution.
Speaker 1:They, they can. They can ingest more, maybe okay but.
Speaker 3:But they switch the cups, so that was my only issue with the whole should the jedi be drinking anyway, doesn't that? When he made them, like hondo was like come on, guys, you know he's prayer, he's very charismatic he is, it's hondo, I you can tell Obi-Wan was trying to be as polite to the local custom of the room.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know he was getting a little crazy in there and the other Jedi. There's a certain decorum, but it's like, all right, I'll have a drink with you, it's fine, and we see him drinking on Coruscant too, in Attack of the Clones.
Speaker 1:He's like where are you going For a drink? They're not monks. I mean, it's not a religious order necessarily. I mean he can indulge a little bit. You can't have attachment. It doesn't say you can't get fucked up.
Speaker 4:If Yoda and Kit can get high, he can have a drink. It's fine, I like that Yoda and Kit.
Speaker 1:Yoda, yaddle and Kit. I think that they hang out. They smoke it up.
Speaker 3:Well they did.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, they did. She's gone now.
Speaker 3:Thoughts and prayers. That was sad.
Speaker 1:Thoughts and prayers Yaddle.
Speaker 3:That was.
Speaker 1:She's kind of cute too.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to make her a headstone for Halloween.
Speaker 1:Yaddle nude is that? And then just see, I mean, you know what is that?
Speaker 3:rule 34, I think I don't know what the fuck you're talking rule 34, I think there's, there's, uh, there's porn forever yep, so yeah, tony's looking it up.
Speaker 1:Tony just leaned back, I'm not looking it up.
Speaker 4:I'm just I'm agreeing that I know what rule 34 is. I was like looking it up. Tony just leaned back. I'm not looking it up. I'm agreeing that I know what rule 34 is. I was like look it up.
Speaker 1:Yaddle nude and he kind of leaned back and I saw his hands move to his keyboard.
Speaker 3:My hands are all over my chair.
Speaker 1:No judgment, brother. How do you think I already know about it? Anyway, been there, done that.
Speaker 4:I will say in this last episode. Did they change the voice actor for Jar Jar?
Speaker 1:Jar Binks. Yes, yes, it was noticeable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, me and Tommy, yeah, we were like the Gungan general yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like I believe Ahmad best had been doing the voice up to this point.
Speaker 3:I think. Well, you said he had a hard time, so I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I haven't looked into this. I don't want to say for sure if it was a mod best. Whoever was doing the voice for Jar Jar up to this point was doing an outstanding job. I really, really feel it was a mod best because no one does it like him. Outstanding job. I really really feel it was a mod best because no one does it like him. Um, but uh, in this particular episode, I don't know, I'd have to look up the uh, look up the can we just bring up the point that it was.
Speaker 2:It was great to see the clones sort of grow to respect Jar Jar's. I don't know if I'd say wisdom In the situation. It's like, oh wow, the dummy's right. He may sound like a moron, but he's picking up the strategy of how to survive. These are trained commandos and they're going. Yeah, let's follow this guy because for some reason it's working.
Speaker 1:He's in command. He's in command, he's in charge. I think they respect his bravery. He has courage. He reminds me of Scooby-Doo Okay.
Speaker 2:Scooby-Doo courage. I like that.
Speaker 3:It's a Scooby-Doo. Courage, yeah, because it's an accident. I was sad when that guy got that the the representative. He died was a senator carunas yeah or caris caris I really thought jar jar was gonna feel more bad about it, to be honest, because it was his fault.
Speaker 1:He's he's, he's darth binks, he doesn't, oh, he doesn't care. He got the senator killed on purpose, like if you. If you watch Jar Jar's exploits, it's not Palpatine who's in control, it's Jar Jar. He's the one pulling the strings. So I mean, jar Jar pretended to not be able to get the seat harness up. Everybody else walked over, got their seat harnesses opened up and sat down, locked in ready to go. Not Jar Jar. He was like oh, he's stuck and right and then.
Speaker 1:So the senator has to get up, fix Jar Jar's shit. And did you notice, jar Jar timed it perfectly for the senator to get up and when he went to try to sit back down, that's when they end up getting attacked and then his harness malfunctions and he ends up dying in the crash. And then jar jar, jar jar's like oopsie. I mean yeah, what's like okay, you know, like oh, you know, it's like sorry, my, my boy. But uh, jar jar did it on purpose. He's, he has all of this planned out. If palpatine is is 10 steps ahead, jar jar is the referee for the game I mean he's out there.
Speaker 1:This is all theory, and well, of course, it is of course like don't think that oh, and sherry, you had pointed out and I had missed this the first time that, um, senator, uh, caris's staff was the staff of raw from raiders of london, his, uh, his little walking stick, his staff, oh, that was from raiders. You had pointed that out, I missed it.
Speaker 1:The first time yes, that's how they found the tomb that's how they found the tomb, even though, like as we learned that you know, indiana jones was pointless, he was irrelevant. He was irrelevant to the entire story that's not the point.
Speaker 3:The point is so, all right, maybe he was on earth all right, so there you go.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I, oh, and the spaceship, oh, the flying saucer. What's too cool, too cool I was like are you kidding me? It's like an actual flying saucer with the little had the sound effects, and then the bean that they used to bring the cows up and everything. Yeah, oh, it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 3:I have that poster, I believe, so I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1:It was. It was a fun episode. It was a lot of fun so so next week.
Speaker 1:So we're going to wrap it up. Next week your homework is to watch episodes 13, 14, 15 and 16 of the Clone Wars. So we've only got a few more episodes left to go and only a couple more episodes in our season, and then we're going to take a little two week break and then we'll be back and we're going to be diving into season two of the Clone Wars animated. So does anyone have anything else that they wanted to say about these episodes?
Speaker 3:I thought they were interesting.
Speaker 2:No, I think we were talking about them as filler episodes because they don't lead into any larger story. But, like we were saying, throughout the show, there's a very there's pieces that are going to come into play later, that we're getting introduced to and it's you know. You say, is this essential? Is this one episode essential? No, but it's part of a larger puzzle that's going to play out over the course of the show. So you really do have to watch. I hate machete order, or or there's only one through six people. Right, it's about start. It's like you know, start at the first episode of Clone Wars, run it all the way through to the Disney Plus ending and just enjoy the ride yeah, I agree, I think of these four, I think maybe the lair of Grievous is probably the one that is the least important.
Speaker 1:Maybe I mean, but again, because it shows shows a little bit of grievous well, it shows that.
Speaker 3:And Ahsoka with another master. I think that's important to the story yeah her going and we see the. Jedi behaving badly what is it, tony?
Speaker 4:so Ahsoka with Luminera is episode 9, not episode 10, but I mean you know. So I mean episode 9. I mean we get introduced to luminaire in episode 10. We get introduced to tofisto and 11 and 12, while not my personal favorites introduce us to hondo who we know has a bigger role later on. So you can't really there's value in injection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's value in every episode this week. All right, that's fair, that's fair, and we get to see more of the war criminal jar jar banks doing what he does. I, I feel so.
Speaker 3:A war criminal who was?
Speaker 1:never brought to justice, a war criminal who was never brought to justice, although, no, I think he ends up like homeless at some point. I don't know if that's canon or not. I don't know if that's canon or not, but something happens where I again I don't know if it's canon, but he ends up like yeah, he ends up like I think he ends up as like a homeless street performer back on Naboo.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'll have to look into that, but I think he ends up as like a homeless street performer back on Naboo. I don't know, I'll have to look into that, but I think that's.
Speaker 3:Are you sure?
Speaker 1:I think so. I'm about like 75%. Sure, he's a mime. That's what happens.
Speaker 2:The next season is going to be a true crime podcast. Tony's going to try to track down the crimes of Jar Jar.
Speaker 3:That would be awesome.
Speaker 4:I'm just going to say if Jar Jar, that would be awesome. I'm just going to say if Jar Jar became a mime, which means we never had to hear him speak again, that is a win for everybody.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. I feel so bad. I do not like Jar Jar, and not because of all the typical stuff. I love. Jar Jar. I'm sorry, I just think it's a really dumb character. I love Jar Jar. I just think it's a I'm sorry, I just think it's a really dumb character.
Speaker 1:I love Jar Jar. It makes no sense, see, I love Jar Jar and I think Jar Jar was meant to be that comic relief. Jar Jar was meant to be that theater of the absurd and he kind of filled in that role of R2 and 3po, like they were. They were the comedy duo, they were the abbott and costello, you know, they were fred and barney basically still are in no, we don't get to see a lot of them in attack in a phantom menace, so jar jar filled that role.
Speaker 3:Yeah, r2 is a savage he is a savage I found that out, but um, I just I'm sorry I could do without Jar Jar.
Speaker 1:That's fair. Most people could.
Speaker 2:And you do for the two-thirds of the prequel trilogy. I mean, he's not really around in a tag of phones, he's hardly in, you know. Right up to the set.
Speaker 1:We don't get too much more of him. I mean there's a bit. He gets sprinkled in here and there, but he did fine.
Speaker 3:In the last movie we saw I thought he was a little bit calmer and a little bit not so wild, but we see more of his courage dumb, but he's just clumsy, but he was fine in the of this one. They just, I mean, they made him a buffoon again, and that's what I didn't like all right, that's fair do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Why would he fall into the Frickin', push the button and sit in the clone's lap and do all this shit Like that was?
Speaker 1:unnecessary.
Speaker 3:It's the buffoonery that bothers you, it's not the it's not the funny stuff, it's just, you're just straight up buffoon.
Speaker 1:It's not that he's. He's a little unlucky. He might have the reverse force. He's a little. You'll vanish from being clumsy.
Speaker 3:But the Scooby-Doo version that's what I say he's Scooby-Doo, because it's like the dumb shit and he still survives. But then you got innocent clones dying and he's not. I'm not saying he should die, but I just or maybe he should die, but I just or maybe he should molten incinerator, vat trooper, once again thoughts and prayers, yeah, thoughts and prayers, dude. Going on to your, your family because they're badass they are badass.
Speaker 1:So he didn't have to go out like that. Why do you have a? Why do you have a fucking molten pit just in the middle of your living room? Well, I would at home, you would, I mean that because you're the, you're the bog witch. That's why why.
Speaker 3:Right, all right. And it wasn't just in the middle of his home. There was a fucking thing over it.
Speaker 1:It was a trap door.
Speaker 3:It was a trap.
Speaker 1:It was a trap Again when he fell into that Missed opportunity. It's a trap that little Mon Calamari could have been like. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:It was a trap. I don't give a fuck. Give a fuck. They should have put it in. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:I don't even care that it was stereotypical or what the fuck, still a little racist, but how? Is that racist?
Speaker 3:because you're just assuming that mon calamari all say that's a trap I didn't say they all said it, but they said it's a trap multiple times but why would you assume that he no, I would say it being a monk.
Speaker 1:Why wouldn't kit fisto say oh, it's a trap, say it, but you wanted this, isari.
Speaker 3:Why wouldn't Kit Fisto say it? He did say it. He did say this is a trap, but you wanted the Mon Calamari to say it, I wanted it. It's not that they needed to do it.
Speaker 1:I wanted it. You wanted to see the stereotype perpetrated. I did. You did have another glass of wine.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Say goodnight.
Speaker 1:Gracie. Goodnight, gracie. Alright, so again your homework for next week, season one, episodes 13, 14, 15, 16, and if you want to know what's up for the rest of our season, we have very little left. So head on over to our website for the roadmap, circlelinerscom, slash, the sws show. And before we head out, of course, we've got to do our obligatory pimpage. So check us out on social media at the SWS show, and be sure to subscribe to the podcast on your favorite podcast platform or YouTube. I got to get last week's episode up on YouTube, don't I, tony?
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 4:I mean, the podcast itself came out, just not the YouTube part that's not the YouTube, right.
Speaker 1:So people like to listen on YouTube. Then they miss last week, but it is up on your favorite podcast. I know I suck as a producer I know really so we need to hire somebody to do this no, so if you're interested, do it.
Speaker 1:You're out wrong, what the hell is your daughter we're getting yelled at, so I guess our time's up. All right, our cat is yelling at us. I don't know if you guys can hear that, but, uh, all right, wow, all right. So, and, if you want to get some merch, head on over to circle of nerdscom, slash merch. And if you'd like to know what's coming up, uh, and, and you know, of course you can check out the timeline and uh, all of that in our show description. So we'll always have that in there, sorry. So, once again, thank you everyone for tuning in this. We know you could be doing anything else right now, but you chose to spend a little time with a bunch of Star Wars nerds, and we love you and we appreciate you for us Nerds For it. So, as always, my little succulents, remember, if no one does anything nice for you, do something nice to while you're looking at New Seattle, and we will see y'all. I'm looking it up right now. Next week, of course you are, you perv. Bye, you.
