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Yoda's Nuggets...of Wisdom
It's our season finale and it's a biggun! Ever wondered why Yoda opts for minimal wardrobe choices on Dagobah? We have, and it leads us into some pretty bizarre territories, including hilarious speculations on Yoda’s hygiene and the imagined love lives of characters like Yaddle and the Hulk.
Once we get back on track we look ahead to Skeleton Crew, talk smack about the Fandom Menace, rant about "real fans", and then get into our breakdown of the last 5 episodes of The Clone Wars Season 1.
We speculate on the return of Mace Windu, celebrate the individuality of clones, recognize the role Darth Jar Jar plays in the rise of the Empire, and then wrap up with a with a warm sense of community nerdery. We love Star Wars and we love YOU for being part of another great season!
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Speaker 2:you good, I'm okay, okay, good, okay, here we go. You guys ready, ready? Yeah, okay, cool, let's go. Oh man, already off to a good start, okay, this week on Star Wars Sucks, we're back in the command center to wrap up the Clone Wars Season 1, episodes 18 through 22. We're going to be looking ahead to Season 2, and we'll be talking about perfectly manicured space lawns. Good times, all that more this week on star Wars sucks. Stick around, howdy succulents. Welcome to Star Wars Sucks, your non-toxic, low-sodium Star Wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that Yoda was almost played by a monkey in a mask, and probably a diaper as well. So, whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious, this is your star wars safe space I. You know george said that there is no underwear in space. So do you think yoda was just like letting stuff drop?
Speaker 3:I mean, he was just in his little robes he was just free fall, free, free, balling it out there and daggaba like the, the action figure I remember the action figure he had like a little robe on underneath.
Speaker 2:So he was like it's like he was wearing like like a tunic or like a like a robe, like onesie sort of thing, like a romper under his actual robes. But you think, in like, like in universe, he was actually wearing pants under that thing I don't know I mean, I know a lot of you know, like you always hear about old, old folks. They just stop wearing underwear at some point. So I mean, he, he was, he was pretty old, he was 800 years old, right so?
Speaker 3:I think he was I mean, oh, I thought I thought 41 was the age that you started doing that.
Speaker 1:Oh, she probably what you from experience there where you stop wearing underwear yeah, you said.
Speaker 3:You said old people stop wearing underwear. I was like oh, I thought I thought it was 41, I should go put some on I don't know, so you always hear about like old men with their balls hanging out and I don't know, I just I mean, I I don't speak for everybody on the panel, but I don't really hear about old men's balls hanging out well, I just, I just keep different company apparently well, apparently, in the medical field, you hear it a lot a lot.
Speaker 2:I would believe that well, yeah, like don't their balls in the toilet yeah, didn't you say you had to, like lower the water in the toilet, or something?
Speaker 4:yes, you can. You can lower the toilet, the water in any toilet for that okay so.
Speaker 2:So my question is I haven't gotten to that point yet, but I'm sure I'll get there eventually like if your balls are sagging in the toilet too much and you flush, could they get sucked into the plumbing?
Speaker 4:I know usually they just said they get splashed okay, well, I mean I've, I've been splashed.
Speaker 2:I mean, no, I'm not. I don't have low-hanging fruit just yet, but I've still been splashed, I've been told, to my face okay, so anyway so anyway, so toilet humor. Yoda yoda is a tripod just free pooping, just freely evacuating into the swamp.
Speaker 4:Why would he free poop?
Speaker 2:I don't think he's just walking around the Jedi temple just dropping nuggets. It's like you're walking down the Jedi hallways. God damn it. Yoda, padawan, padawan, come clean this up. Get some younglings in here to clean this up. Fucking yoda, I swear to god. No, I don't think that was the case.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty sure he was he was probably just running around naked yeah, he only put robes on when luke showed up he was probably pissed too. He's like fuck hey it's not wearing underwears. That's why he was stealing all his shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true when he and Yaddle get together, it's just that much quicker and easier.
Speaker 2:So bleh so I think, like a few weeks ago we talked about Yaddle rule 34 and I looked it up. I took that one for the team and, yes, there is adult content featuring yaddle and and the vast majority of it is really hard to look at. However, there's some that's not so hard to look at anyway, let's just talk about the she's a green meanie. I'll tell you what someone drew her some cakes anyway, um.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 3:I have to say one more thing. Who would be interested in watching a video of Yaddle and the Incredible Hulk having mommy daddy time.
Speaker 2:Just think about the size. I would not.
Speaker 4:I feel like I don't think the incredible Hawk would have you don't think he's packing? Well, no, because no.
Speaker 2:I mean when he says Hulk smash. He's not just talking about breaking. I feel like he doesn't really yeah you think he's got like a Bruce Banner size no, no, no.
Speaker 4:I think Bruce Banner is probably perfect, but you don't think the Hulk is? No, packing some heat. No, because it's all the. I know it's not steroids, but it's.
Speaker 3:You know, it's the he's a hundred, very veiny the Gannis probably very veiny, but I mean he's a hundred percent testosterone.
Speaker 1:I mean there's no, he's all games that doesn't mean you have a big, he's not you know this for fact, but I almost guarantee you that there is a canon answer to this question straight up on gamma rays.
Speaker 4:He is juicing. What are are you talking about?
Speaker 1:That's fair.
Speaker 4:That's the ultimate juice.
Speaker 2:That's fair Okay.
Speaker 4:See what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It would explain why he's always angry. He can't get enough.
Speaker 4:No, I like the Hulk.
Speaker 2:And he can't. He can't even fuck She-Hulk, because that's his cousin.
Speaker 3:Who's?
Speaker 2:he going to have sex with, I mean I. I mean I guess he's doing it as bruce banner.
Speaker 1:He is a child, he's childlike he can't get his heart rate that high he's not.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know what, when he was, when he was on the original stuff he's childlike. Well, yeah, right yeah, but when he was on that, uh, in, in, in that one in the one thor movie was it love and Thunder? Yeah, when they were on the little battle planet he was not shy, no, he was smashing. He was getting ass on that planet.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, he was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, and he wasn't childlike.
Speaker 4:Well, technically doesn't he have a son, he does.
Speaker 2:Hulk does have a son.
Speaker 4:yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:There's a whole hulk world there's a whole.
Speaker 4:I like monsters, I'd smash, so I have no, no I think he would smash.
Speaker 2:So, but you really you don't think he's got a hulk size?
Speaker 4:no, I think it's normal to be honest that would be comical to see why.
Speaker 2:Because he's like nine feet tall to have a normal penis. He would get laughed at I would I listen.
Speaker 5:I can't wait to see the Blue Angels maneuver to Segway, and this one.
Speaker 2:So we used to talk a lot about Star Wars and dicks. Now we're on to Marvel and dicks. I don't know how that happened. I don't either sorry. Yoda, he's green, the Hulk is green, oh.
Speaker 1:Louie.
Speaker 3:Louie's the one that bridged that gap. Y is green.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh louis louis is the one that bridged that gap.
Speaker 3:Yaddle in the hole I did. It is my fault.
Speaker 2:It is your fault, sorry, I didn't even get to finish my spiel, sorry you didn't. Which might, which might be for the best, I don't know. I might need to cut that spiel down. Anyway, I just want to make sure people are informed, like if you're first time listening you know, or what we're all so long is it though? Is it too long? No, I is it too long. I feel like sometimes it's too long, it's funnier to talk about dicks it is. So let's see Star Wars. This is your safe place, but we are the circle of nerds.
Speaker 2:It's fine, it's perfectly fine yes, do it say it.
Speaker 4:yes, say it, say it. Yes, do it Say it.
Speaker 3:Crash yes, Say it.
Speaker 2:Say it, you're not going to. No, there's nothing what Crash.
Speaker 5:Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:Say it, say what you're going to say.
Speaker 5:Well, we were talking about dicks and I said well enough about star wars theory oh, oh, yeah, yeah, kind of like that guy that guy's a d-bag um talk about twilight sleep in a little bit and their tentacles oh my god
Speaker 1:anyway, but that's part of the show off the rails that we haven't even started yet I love it, and I'm not even drinking.
Speaker 2:This is wonderful I'm, I'm completely like I've lost my place here. I have no idea where this is. Yeah, yeah, I have no idea what the fuck is happening, episode 19.
Speaker 4:Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:And Louie's out. Louie said fuck it, louie's gone.
Speaker 4:Louie is looking up Hulk and Yaddle Damn.
Speaker 2:That's what he's looking up.
Speaker 5:Did you guys finish the Shadow Virus arc?
Speaker 1:So we did the Shadow Virus arc, so we did the Shadow Virus episode, and that was part of the last run. But the fallout from that was episode 18, which is the first one that we're talking about today.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Louie's gone.
Speaker 4:Where'd he go.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming he stepped out to try and reset his uh.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right, because he went to Colorama. Colorama.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Wait, hold on. It says device is not good.
Speaker 4:He's coming on board okay that's what she said it's, it's all the dicks we were talking about. It popped him offline.
Speaker 2:See what I did there now he's still showing color bars. Let's get him in here, though.
Speaker 4:All right, louie's back well, we can hear him we can hear you, we can't see you.
Speaker 2:We thought you dipped out. You were like that's enough of green you know, I got hello hello okay, I got, what a woody all right. So anyway, we are the circle of nerds and we do absolutely love Star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So let's meet the team, shall we? From my left to your right, it is the sensational Sherry star of stage and screen, also known as the Bog Witch.
Speaker 5:Yes, what's up, girl, hello everyone.
Speaker 3:I like monsters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we know, we know all about your monster fetish. No king shaming, though. No king shaming here, and from the Outer Rim territory of Bostween, along with his very special guest Technical Difficulties it's Daddy Louie, Hello children.
Speaker 3:I don't know why I did children. I don't know why I did that. I don't know why you did that either.
Speaker 2:And hailing from parts unknown. It's T to the Oni.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to the galaxy, everybody.
Speaker 2:And joining us once again, ace pilot of the infamous Parma Flyer. It's Crash.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, yep, motherfuckers and I am tommy d. You're more than slightly obnoxious star wars know-it-alls. What are we doing here? Our mission is to watch all of the star wars tv shows and films in chronological order, breaking them down, connecting the dots and learning a little more about Star Wars, and maybe even about ourselves as well. All heart Warning, just so you know, there will be spoilers. This week we're going to be talking about episodes 18 through 22 of the Clone Wars Season 1, released between February and March 2009. The episodes take place around 21 BBY and give us the continuation of the Blue Shadow virus, the three-part Ryloth arc and the last episode which could arguably be more filler than any other episode in the season, but we'll talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I feel like it was filler, but we'll, uh, we'll talk about that a little bit. I don't know, I feel like it was filler, but we'll, we'll get into it. So the events in star wars, a new hope, are considered year zero on the timeline. So anything that happens before the battle of yavin, which is bby, is before the battle of yavin. Anything that happens after it is considered ab aby. So you may be hearing those terms, uh, as we continue on with the show.
Speaker 2:So before we get into the episodes and talking about that, um, I wanted to talk a little bit about skeleton crew, which is slated to come out december 3rd this year stars j, jude Law as a force user and a bunch of space goonies. So if you haven't seen the trailer yet, go forth, watch the trailer. I thought it was great. I'm hyped up about it. It really does give off goonies, et, vibes, you know that whole Amblin entertainment. You know Spielberg, lucas, collab, um, it really really does give off. You know 80s, you know like pre-teen adventure movie, vibes, um, and people are pissed off about it don't watch it people are right, people are pissed off.
Speaker 2:People are pissed off because it's like oh my god, it's a suburb in space. And then they're pissed off because neil, who is a udalon? I don't know if I'm an ordalon, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, but um, um he looks like a little elephant he does look like a guy. Yeah, yeah, a little blue guy.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, you know I think he's adorable, yeah it's great of max rebo, yeah, but it hasn't been confirmed whether he is um ortolan. I think it's ortolan he. That has not been confirmed yet. So so he really, really, really does look like max Rebo, but his name is Neil and people are all sorts of shitty because he is, uh what? King basic.
Speaker 4:What? There was a lot of other aliens because he's a little.
Speaker 3:I don't understand that at all there. Yeah, but it's, you know that the fandom menace.
Speaker 2:That's that's what I call them. The fandom menace. They they will complain about anything yeah, it's stupid anything at all. They're complaining about the lawns, they're complaining that it looks too earthy, too normal, and they're complaining because neil speaks basic. And they said, well, you know, he has. No, he has no vocal cords. Some motherfuckers, you don't know what he's got in his head. There's a, there's a lot. You don't know him, you don't know his life I mean, do they have his medical records?
Speaker 4:I don't understand. I mean look at.
Speaker 2:Look at the jedi council has vocal. Well, I mean, you know yeah, but look at the jedi council. Look at the jedi council from the prequels they all know basic they all speak basic, all of them. Um the quarin, the squid, face people. Yeah, you know, some of them have little beaky mouths, some of them don't, but with a beak mouth, you know, they're still able to articulate in basic fucking birds, earth birds can speak in perfect english.
Speaker 2:I was just gonna say with a beak and a tongue speak so I don't know why people are bitching so, guys, let me know what your thoughts. First of all, let me know what are your thoughts about the trailer. First of all, I mean, we don't, we're not really supposed to get into the controversy of it, but I'm so sick of hearing about it but what are your? What are your thoughts on the actual trailer itself?
Speaker 4:I just think it's cute. I think it'll be fun for younger.
Speaker 5:Yes, I think the answer to your question is in the trailer. The show itself looks fun, which is why star wars twitter as it is is having a collective nut a bunch of 80s kids. You know, unfortunately, most of us are having a meltdown because a show that was made for kids when we were kids all of a sudden has decided. You know, it's like, oh wait, we've gone from and or is that you know the star wars for grown-ups? Because there was like a hookup in one episode to oh wait, star wars is for kids again.
Speaker 2:It always was, but you know, we're just the tone shift back to these were adventure stories for kids right, and lucas himself said that star wars was for like 12 year olds. That's what he made. He made it for that demographic. But I don't think it's the, the 80s kids. I don't think it's the 80s kids that are the ones that are really super pissed off about it. I think that they see this as there's a lot of nostalgia there for the 80s. Oh yeah, I think it's the, the kids of the 80s kids, and I think it's like the 90s kids. I think it's. I think it's the people that grew up with the prequels and were so in love with the prequels and then and are so like, so just venomous about disney star wars that they just can't enjoy anything. They, they just can't fucking enjoy anything that disney puts out, even if secretly, they actually love it joy anything that disney puts out, even if secretly, they actually love it.
Speaker 5:Well, just look at the criticism, all the shows, uh, that have come out, you know, but bob eiger's sort of shifting back towards movies. That's why we're getting a mandalorian grogu as a feature film. But you had this era, this little era, where, like, okay, we can make short form trilogies in a streaming series you know kenobi and or you know ahsoka without having to play the box office game of it's got to break records, it's opening weekend or it's a dud. But look at all the new, the areas we've been able to explore with disney plus series, versus saying, okay, well, it has to be a feature film, it has to fit a certain time frame. You couldn't fit a story like andor in two and a half hours right, there's no way it would have to be a trilogy at least.
Speaker 2:And, and to be honest, people couldn't afford it. I can't afford to to go to 15 movies to get the story. I just can't do it. I don't want to wait. You know eight years in between the movies. You know where I can get it in a couple of years on TV and I just can't afford it. Every time you go out if you take your kids, that's $100 a day, at least at a minimum and just getting on Twitter Cause you're angry and it's bad writing.
Speaker 5:You know, deborah Chow, obi-wan Kenobi oh, bad writing, bad, direct Shut up. You know? That's really where I'm at at this point. Right, when I see criticism of Star Wars, it's like, look, if you don't enjoy it, fine, shut up, move on, fine, shut up, move on, don't watch it, don't watch it, I like I and don't ruin it for everybody else constantly posting how much you hate it like I could.
Speaker 2:I could even deal with people saying I hate it, it sucks, it's not my my thing, okay, cool it's. If it's not your thing, that means it's not meant for you, which which is perfectly fine. There's enough star wars to go around. There's stuff for grown-ups, there's stuff for teens, pre-teens, littles, I mean there's there's more than enough star wars to go around.
Speaker 2:My, my issue, my biggest issue, is when you shit on the other fans for not liking what you like or for not disliking what you dislike. That's where I draw the line when you tell me I'm not a real fan because I like some of the things that disney has produced. And then they talk about this betrayal. You know, kathleen kennedy has betrayed us, the star wars fans. Um, you know, dave filoni, john favreau, have betrayed us, the star wars fans, and it's like no motherfucker.
Speaker 2:You have betrayed us because you're a fan and you're shitting on your fellow fans. You have betrayed your family, and I think that's why I get so fucking worked up because, at the end of the day, no matter what how you're shitting on star wars, whether you love pre or post disney or whatever, all of the fucking cool kids who are hanging out across the street eating chicken wings, drinking beer. They're all laughing at us. Equally, they're all calling us nerds. You know, and, like you, talk about star wars theory. Star wars theory has three million plus followers. He put together, like this cool fan film about Darth Vader, a bunch of dudes fucking watching football that aren't into Star Wars. They don't give a fuck about your 3 million followers and the fact that you made a fan film. That makes you even more fucking nerdy and even more virginal. So it's like shut the fuck up. We need to come together as a collective community of fans and stop shitting on each other and, more importantly, we need to line up I'm gonna.
Speaker 5:We need to organize a gungan army of shields for these child that we are not going to have another Jake Lloyd incident where we're going to let the fandom menace harass these kids, intimidate these kids, bully these kids, for, however good their acting may or may not, they're child actors first off. Deal with that. If anything's wrong with the show, it's more because of whatever the adults do. It's not the child. Don't go harassing this kid at his school. But seriously, I want to like a row of gungan shield.
Speaker 4:You know fans lined up to protect these I'm down, I'm down 100 I like I said, I think it's just going to be a fun show and there's really I mean, there's nothing we can do about people shitting on it.
Speaker 2:To be honest, no, you can't it looks cool, it does it looks fun.
Speaker 4:I'd like to watch it.
Speaker 2:I'm excited so like it's goonies. It's goonies, it's et. It's a. It's a fucking kid, it's it's stranger things it is. It's a bunch of kids bored living in the suburbs and and, by the way, this this would not work under any other setting like at all, because they're bored because they live in this perfect suburban utopia. If they were living in Mos Espa, they'd have plenty to fucking keep them excited and there'd be adventure around every fucking corner, because there's pikes and there's Jawa and there's tuscans and there's always something going on, you know. So if they lived anywhere else in the galaxy, they would not be bored I think this is just another take on another planet.
Speaker 4:Right like what's happening on another planet. Why not?
Speaker 2:because there's countless planets. I mean there's bound to be. You know, people, people that we've seen in star wars. They're either like really live in life. They're either very wealthy or they're living in shit. They're living in some kind of weird mining town or on a dock or in a fucking spaceport town. They're either living in squalor or they're living like super posh. These folks have made it. They're doing pretty good. So can we see that? Can we see the middle class? Can we see the, the space middle class?
Speaker 2:we're gonna see it and I'm super excited about it. And I'm sorry, tony louie, let me shut the fuck up, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I get worked up. I I'm I feel exactly the same way that you do. Um, I guess I hadn't. I hadn't really been exposed to the community and seen what they've been saying, like I didn't hear about that whole fresh cut grass thing. That's kind of funny. Yeah, I mean I just don't. There's really no reason to hate on this at all. First of all, it hadn't even come out yet, right, literally we get a 90-second trailer, so we're freaking out about 90 seconds. You know what I mean. And second of all, in Star Wars in general, there's so many different angles and ways that you can tell stories because at the end of the day, you know, star wars has transcended the skywalker saga you know it's not, it's that's.
Speaker 3:That is but a blip now in what we know of star wars. You know it used to be all of star wars and now it's. It's but a blip of star wars, right, there's so much good star wars content. And last but certainly not least, I'll just say like, if you're listening to this, right, and you're like one of those haters, um, you know, not every star wars thing is is is meant for you and that's okay yeah you know, do you go?
Speaker 3:do those people go and hate on the little kids cartoon, the young jedi adventure?
Speaker 2:no, you know why because they don't watch it no, we hate on it because there's no parental supervision, there's no adult supervision but we hate on it for a different reason right, right, right. We hate it just for fun.
Speaker 4:It's super cute, it is right um, but everybody bitching about this fucking suburb like did you not watch the?
Speaker 2:But we hate on it for a different reason.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right, we hate on it, just for fun. It's super cute, it is Right. But everybody bitching about this fucking suburb Did you not watch the rest of the fucking trailer? Clearly, they're off that planet out of the suburb fairly quickly and they're back into the shitty side of the Star Wars universe, I mean. So you're still going to get all the same stuff that you love, but we're just seeing a different planet and people living differently. And you know? And what was it in? Uh, in episode two? Um, fucking dex's diner straight up a 50s diner in the middle of coruscant, with street, with streetlights and sidewalks, and fucking repulsor lift speeders driving around, everything that the internet was complaining about for skeleton crew. George already did that in the prequels, so you got a problem with it. Take it up with George people can live normal lives.
Speaker 2:I mean but their complaint is what looks too much like earth?
Speaker 4:well it. Let's say it is right. Okay, maybe it's Tara lives. But their complaint is it looks too much like Earth. Let's say it is Okay, maybe it's Terra. I don't know the name of their planet?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't know the name of their planet.
Speaker 4:I mean it's Mother Gaia, for all we know. I don't know, but who cares?
Speaker 2:I think we're going to see the suburbs so ridiculous. We're going to see the suburbs for maybe an episode or ridiculous. We're going to see the suburbs for maybe an episode or two. We're going to establish the relationship with the kids. We're going to establish the fact that they're bored as fuck.
Speaker 4:They're going to find something they're going to get lost in space and they're going to go find the treasure like the goon.
Speaker 2:Right, and then the suburbs are going to bookend the series, so we're going to see them on the suburbs to establish and then they're going to come back home at the end of it.
Speaker 4:Season one done. This is a series right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:But you know something else that people are going to complain about. They're going to complain I can see it happening already. They're going to complain about how the show is too much like the goonies.
Speaker 3:It's too much of a copy and paste of the goonies you know, because it's like everything good that comes out in star wars there. You know, even if it mirrors something great like I'm a big fan of the force awakens, I don't give a poop about how close to a new hope it is. You know what I mean. But some people were genuinely upset about how close in storytelling I guess completely it was. I thought it was fine, you know, but I can see people complaining about it now. Yeah it's too much like the Goonies.
Speaker 4:Well, they could all become writers and write their own series. How about that? Let's put that out there. If you're so pissed off, will you write your own shit, and let's see.
Speaker 5:I used to work in video production with a guy. This was right as Phantom Menace came out. I was working at SeaWorld in Ohio and one of the guys was giving. A bunch of guys were giving me grief about how bad George Lucas is, how much the movie was terrible, blah, blah, blah. I'm like you film weddings as your full-time job. That's the extent of your career. Don't give George Lucas grief and, more importantly, don't give me grief about George Lucas. Mr Wedding Videographer, go out there, create your own movie. The Xbox Office Records and then we will talk.
Speaker 2:There you go so now a few weeks ago well, actually the entire time the Acolyte was out, people were saying that you know, on rotten tomatoes it would. It received like like horrendous reviews, and we know now that it was review bombed um on rotten tomatoes. But um, if you go over to Nielsencom and you look at the Nielsen ratings, which are arguably the most accurate ratings of entertainment, and have been for decades. Yeah, For original programming. Guess which show made the top 10? Fucking.
Speaker 5:Accolade.
Speaker 2:The Accolade top 10 with only eight episodes. I don't know why everybody gets so worked up about.
Speaker 5:Rotten Tomatoes became the gold standard for how good a movie. When everybody knows that system is so gameable, you know it's worse than the comments section on Twitter. All you got to do is create enough spam accounts to just torpedo a show yeah, as opposed to well. You got to put butts in seats or turn on TV. You know enough. Tvs, cable boxes, whatever. However, nielsen does their thing now to literally say okay if, if accolade cracked top 10, a good chunk of that was people watching it to find out how much they hate it. Right, but people were watching and and, like myself, I watched it repeatedly, because every time an episode aired, you go back and want to watch one, two, three to see what episode four. And I'm that guy that every week when a new episode comes out, it's like a mini binge. You got to start from the beginning, watch it through.
Speaker 5:It's like, oh, this is what they were building up to. It's like reading a good book over and over again as opposed to having to go out to a movie theater.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. But the joke's on them, because when they go to pitch season two of the Acolyte to the executives, the executives none of them have looked at the comments. None of them have watched the haters YouTube channels. They're looking at the numbers. How many millions of hours of viewership did we get? How much money did we make? How much money did we make? We're in the top 10 of the Nielsen rating with 335 million minutes of watch time. At the top of that list, just to put it into perspective, was the Boys, with 1,329 million minutes of watch time, but that's across 32 episodes and that was just eight.
Speaker 2:Acolyte had eight.
Speaker 3:I actually liked the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, acolyte wasn't bad, it wasn't great. It wasn't my favorite, it was okay, it was interesting.
Speaker 4:I give it like a C wasn't my favorite, it was okay, it was interesting, it was an interest.
Speaker 2:I give it like a, c minus out of all the star wars. I give it a c minus and my rating attack of the clones, attack of the clones, gets an f plus. And then so the acolyte gets a c plus, and that's only. That's only because it's the last 15 minutes. I love the clones. Let's say the last 10 minutes. You're biased. The last 8 minutes, including credits. I think that's.
Speaker 3:I don't know. There's some parts of that movie. You go back and watch them now and you're like I don't't know. It just puts the smile on your face I guess, oh, anyway I guess, okay, are we talking about? Let's talk about obi-wan chasing django through the or django chasing obi-wan through the asteroid field what he's saying there's parts that make you smile, like the asteroid.
Speaker 2:That was a great scene oh, the, the seismic charge, yeah yeah. No, that was pretty good, it was not gonna lie. That was pretty good, um, but even the phantom menace was was spooky too. But anyway, the whole video game along the the in the droid factory, the whole you know side scroller video game sequence. It's just you know pad may getting her shirt ripped off. Come on listen anyway.
Speaker 4:People want to see this.
Speaker 2:It's fan service. I get it so. Clone Wars season 1, episodes 18 through 22 we're already like an hour into our show and all we've done is rant, so let's just real quick, we'll burn through it so we're fine, tony. Tony skeleton crew. Skeleton crew. Tony. Your thoughts please.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be quick and short about this. If you have a problem with this 90 seconds of footage, go outside and touch some freshly cut grass. Shut the fuck up Let them actually make the damn show and then make up your mind.
Speaker 4:I love it. Make up your mind. I love that.
Speaker 2:I love that. Damn Tony. Tony comes out hard. I love it. Tony comes out swinging, swing it. Tony comes out All right. So Skeleton Crew looks great. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Watch it with your kids If you have kids. Watch it with your kids If you have kids. Watch it with your kids. If you don't have kids, do like Big Brother, big Sister program. There's lots of places where children are being trafficked, so I'm sure you can pick one up for a few bucks. So if you don't have kids of your own, get out there. I know a guy who knows a guy. I can get you a couple little Asian kids to watch.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, fbi's going to be here tomorrow, it's fine.
Speaker 2:No, they'll be all right so.
Speaker 4:Anyway, watch it with your cats, dm me or your dogs.
Speaker 2:Dm me, I'll hook you up with some kids. I got you All right, so, anyway, watch it with your kids. Watch, that's wrong, to kidnap, but to purchase it's fine, no, okay, no, purchasing is bad as well. All right, I'm helping out a small business owner. Anyway, now we're all going to get off the show. Episode 18, mystery of a Thousand Moons, which is the second part of a one-hour special. Anakin and Obi-Wan have to go to the moons of Iago to get a, a special route that cures the blue shadow virus.
Speaker 5:Um, callback alert.
Speaker 2:Callback alert right, I was gonna say and if we? If you remember, from the phantom menace, anakin refers to the angels living on the moons of iago when he sees Padme and says are you an angel?
Speaker 4:And we got to see one.
Speaker 2:And we got to see one and they're really not that cute.
Speaker 4:It was okay.
Speaker 5:And even the kid Jabo was sort of based off of an early concept drawing of young Anakin from Phantom Menace. It was sort of the opposite of a Jake Lloyd look that they didn't go with and they sort of just well, what if we take that look and he just plays with droids, rebuilds droids, I was like again callback alert, but it was a cute little way to kind of tie it. It makes you think about Phantom Menace, which makes you tie it into the show, and it sort of brings the animated and the live action together.
Speaker 2:It's connecting those dots.
Speaker 4:It just reminds me of the kid from tropic thunder, but that's right.
Speaker 2:Which kid was the little kid? He was the guy. He was the. Oh the tran, the drug lord tran. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When he opens his shirt up, he's got like this demon tattoo smoking a cigar well, yo poppy fields, yeah, he's smoking a cigar.
Speaker 4:That dude, that dude was hardcore anyway, that's what that little kid kind of reminds me of, not in the whole funny way, but I'm a land farmer, motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Okay, such a good movie, such a good movie, love it okay we just saw it, so this way yeah, it's so good, it's so good anyway. Um, so it was a. That was an okay episode. It wrapped up the blue, the blue. What is it? Virus, the blue?
Speaker 5:shadow virus.
Speaker 2:Wrapped it up and again we see. We see the architect of the empire, jar Jar Binks, again doing architect of the empire, jar Jar Binks again doing things to move the pieces on the board. Somehow I'm telling you, somehow he was able to maneuver himself to damage Padme's respirator mask, forcing her to remove her helmet, and then now she's contaminated with the blue shadow virus. Nothing happened to Jar Jar, though. Nothing ever happens to Jar Jar. It's true, he is the architect of the downfall of the Jedi.
Speaker 4:As soon as I saw him, I was like, oh, he's going to fuck up their shit and it's not even funny anymore. I'm over it.
Speaker 3:Sherry's over it. She's done.
Speaker 4:Louis, am I wrong? No, you're not. I mean, it's as soon as you see him. Don't you get that feeling inside?
Speaker 2:yeah, you're like oh, we're fucked this motherfucker, stupid ass because there's no, there's never any real actionable growth with jar jar. Like dave's the bumbling fool and like I would like. I I don't know if you've seen online there's like. There's like these illustrations of like a buff jar jar, like I want that to happen.
Speaker 2:I want him to like something happen, like he causes someone's like right out like well, not not right out, but like he causes someone's death, he feels really, really horrible about it and he goes off into a cave for like five years and he comes back and he says you know like I'm back, misa have reflected on no, you know, but he has killed he has caused the deaths of people actually, yes, yes, he's horrible fucked up no, I know misa feel bad about all this bad bombing but ahsoka was a bad motherfucker, ahsoka, I mean, she was a bad she's.
Speaker 4:She's that, commander, shit is she's got it.
Speaker 2:Ahsoka. When she said to Padme, she said you know. Or she said to Luke Luke, I'm sorry, anakin. Anakin, no, it's Padme. She told Padme. She said we will do whatever we can for as long as we're able to stop these droids Her and the clothes.
Speaker 2:She knew she was going to die. She didn't even. No grief, no fear, she said we're going to go as hard as we can for as long as we can to buy you some time. Ahsoka, what the fuck. She's hardcore. People don't appreciate Ahsoka enough. I really don't think they do.
Speaker 5:Especially in that first season. That was when she started to cook as a character. It's like, okay, she's been listening to Anakin, she's kind of picking up on his traits and that all go. No quit mentality. That's something she picked up from her master.
Speaker 2:She's all about.
Speaker 4:She learns quick, she does.
Speaker 2:Quick she, oh, yeah, yeah, she's, she's all about, she learns she does quick.
Speaker 4:She got her men killed. It's her fault, she knows it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, going into episode 19, storm over Ryloth, when she's no, no, no, that's fine, that's, that's a perfect segue. Yeah, she's in control of that squadron, just like Anakin was in control when he was in charge of the y-wing squadron, right a few episodes back. And now ahsoka's in the same boat and she, she pulls an anakin and she, she has to learn the hard way and she feels bad about it, but she, uh, she came back, she handled her business but her men stay loyal and and they can, as we can, as we see, they can change, even though they're not really supposed to.
Speaker 4:I, I, like you, can see that the clone still oh yeah, you know, can be like what the fuck? I'm not doing this or whatever, but um, but her men are, they're loyal, they're loyal to her.
Speaker 2:And even Admiral Yularen. He came in and he supported her 100%.
Speaker 1:He didn't have to, even though it was her fault.
Speaker 2:Even though it was her fault and she kind of fucking Got him hurt. She gave him the finger. I mean, basically she did. She was like fuck you, I'm going to do what I want, you're not the boss of me. And she got people killed, got him hurt and he still supported her. That was good shit.
Speaker 1:Louie.
Speaker 2:Tony.
Speaker 1:I agree. Just a quick touch back on the 18. Yeah, basically filler episode Closed off the Shadow Vires thing, but okay, that's fine. I touched on it briefly before. I thought we were maybe seeing a little bit of character progression for Jar Jar, but they quickly abandoned that and that's just. Now he's back to his usual self and that's unfortunate, but it is what it is. The only other thing I will say is a kid like Jabo, who has the technical abilities he has when you're fighting a war against droids, like am I the only one who thought that they were going to take him with them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he would be fucking handy.
Speaker 5:Or at least get intel on how to take out droids better. Did he invent? Who invented the droid poppers, the technology like that, how to kill, battle droids better or more efficiently without risking the clones.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 5:Anakin thought it was really offensive.
Speaker 4:But maybe he saw himself in him and was like, nah, I ain't taking him, but you know what?
Speaker 2:and that's like Anakin I don't know, I'm just. Anakin is like he is forever that techie geek. I mean he's the tech nerd like you could. You could see that like when he's, when he's fixing things like that. You can really kind of feel that he wants that simple life Like I think that he would be. But I think he's you know he's he's split. It's like on one hand I think he would be very happy, just him and Padme living somewhere quietly and him like opening up like a speeder garage or something or like a droid repair shop.
Speaker 2:Right. But then at the same time he's he's conflicted because he needs to save everyone. He couldn't save his mom, so now he has to save everyone, and so there's there's that, there's that conflict in him, but it's still like a selfless conflict and I think that's what keeps him from ever fully turning to the dark side. I think because he does have, yeah, yeah I. I think he's got that, that conflict where he wants to save and help. He wants a simple life, but he knows that he can't have a simple life because he's got to save the galaxy, you know, because nobody else can do it. He put that on his shoulders. Nobody else can save the galaxy. I failed to save my mom, so now I've got to fucking save every creature in the galaxy, except those creatures that stand between me and my lady, or me and my Padawan, because anybody gets between me and them, they're going to die, unless Obi-Wan's around. If Obi-Wan's around, if Obi-Wan's there, you're safe. If Obi-Wan's, around.
Speaker 3:If Obi-Wan's there, you're safe. If Obi-Wan's not there, you're going to die Accurate.
Speaker 2:You're uber fucked at that point. Yeah, you're gone, you're gone. So yeah, the space battle Storm over Ryla very cool, cool maneuver Dooku. As much as we do feel for him, he just continues to be a fucking douche.
Speaker 4:Oh well, yeah, I mean now he's gone.
Speaker 2:He's so far gone. Yeah that's not good. We're just going to sacrifice everybody, Women and children. We're going to use the women and children, the Twi'leks, as human shields. We're going to fucking salt the earth, fucking carpet bomb, you know innocents in their villages.
Speaker 4:You know innocence in their villages. You know that. I want to know what was on that planet that they wanted so bad. Or is it just the planet, because those people are just trying to dance? Okay, they're just trying to dance like, can you let them dance? Am I wrong?
Speaker 5:you're not wrong I think ryloff in the lore is sort of thought of as it's more of a strategic. It's like it's it's nothing, it's nothing special, but it's on the way to everything special. So if you can roll the Ryloth system, it's like you know when you're playing risk, you know you.
Speaker 2:You take this part of the map so you move on to the next part, right, spoiler alert as we know, ultimately the long game here is to make sure that that we've got troops on every planet, in every system. That way, when the imperial transition happens, you've got you. There's no need. There's no war. There's there's no need to fight a war oh yeah, we talked about that today yeah, there's no need to fight a war either. Yeah, we talked about that today.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's no need to fight either way. Palpatine wins. We've talked about that before.
Speaker 2:So, and that's the thing we're, you know, and and, overall, like we're talking about all these really cool stories, we're learning more about anakin and padme and ahsoka and obi-wan, and we're seeing that. But don't forget, as you're watching these episodes, as you're watching the entire Clone Wars series, don't ever forget that what we're watching is Palpatine's chess game. We're watching the rise of the Empire in real time. As we watch these episodes, as we watch these episodes, we're seeing the building blocks and the foundation of Palpatine's grand final project. I mean, this is his project 2025, but for the galaxy, you know, like we're, we're seeing it.
Speaker 2:So don't, don't forget about that. Like, as you're watching you know these, these episodes that do kind of feel like filler Sometimes. Just remember that. You know these episodes that do kind of feel like filler sometimes. Just remember that. You know, in the background, palpatine is working. You know, and, and even though it might just seem like it was a filler episode, that was another, that was another piece of of the puzzle put into place. Right, that was, that was another piece taken off the board for palpatine. So, and sherry, like you said you, whether the Republic wins that planet or the separatists win, it doesn't mean it doesn't mean shit because he still has it so and nobody sees it.
Speaker 2:It's just happening and it's brilliant to watch. It is brilliant to watch. It's scary and Palpatine's a dick, but he did bring peace to the galaxy for 18 years. Just saying so. All right, uh, so we had to storm over Ryloth. And then innocence of Ryloth. Um, again, more life lessons. Last episode, a life lesson for Ahsoka. This episode we meet Waxer and wax from boil, two cool clones that we're going to see more of. And we see little numa. We see little new. What we haven't seen? The last of numa, by the way. Oh, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Say no more spoiler. We have not seen the last of Numa by far, by far, I mean, there's, there's a lot. So it was nice seeing, because I think it was Boyle. Boyle was just kind of the. He was like a fucking dick, like he was like ah, these tail heads, what are we helping?
Speaker 2:you know, and then waxer was just kind of. You know, he's the softy, he's the brother. So what do you guys think about this episode? I thought it's pretty cool and and louie. Like you had said before, these, these three episodes, this arc well, let him talk.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry zipping it, louie um, so to say what I would that you were going to say that I said earlier, yeah. So knowing a bit about what's coming, you know, these, these episodes do become very, very important going forward. But even if they didn't, this was my favorite episode of the season. I think Any episode of this show where we get to see the realness of the clones, the uniqueness behind what we know to not be unique, you know, does that make sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they're all individuals. They're clones, but they're individuals, not just hair and and and and facial hair and all that, but they're, they have individual personalities.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I and I like that, and Dave Filoni does a great job giving each of them their own individual personalities, which is great to see. So, yeah, I love this episode a lot.
Speaker 2:Oh and and, of course, uh um D Bradley Baker, you want to talk about?
Speaker 3:right.
Speaker 5:You know, being able to portray different personalities using like yeah, yeah, hands off to him and this whole story arc is such a great metaphor for the d-day landings, like if you want to explain to a kid real life history you know if you were watching with your niece, nephew, real life history. You know if you were watching with your niece, nephew, your son or whatever you know a little kid and you're trying to explain to them what world war ii is about. It's like that's. The ryloth arc is very good as a metaphor for okay, first that was the. You know the landing phase where they had to get past the separatists and you know they just get on the ground.
Speaker 5:Then the, the troops run into, you know, to a little Nuna. You know it's like, and some guys were very sensitive to the locals, some guys were just here to do a job and you know, you just kind of you see a little bit of that. The, the music, you know the hostage taking, hell, even the fact that the Twi'leks apparently have French accents natural, what we have, french accents naturally.
Speaker 3:We call.
Speaker 5:French accents. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 5:it's a direct metaphor for like oh hey, you know all the way to the end which we have where it's like the, the liberation of Paris I don't I forget the name of the city on Ryloth is. But yeah, that whole the you know the techno union is there, loot all their treasure and run. It's like this is exactly what happened in Paris during world war two and it's a really easy way to kind of explain to a kid without showing them real life, gruesome violence, like some of these world war two documentaries my dad likes to watch. It's a little intense to show them that versus going. Hey, remember that clone wars episode where they free Bryloth from the trade Federation? Yeah, this effort is that's kind of. Hey, remember that Clone Wars episode where they free Bryloth from the Trade Federation? Yeah, the Separatist, that's kind of what happened. Your grandpa was basically Wexer.
Speaker 3:You know, that's a great point.
Speaker 4:It is. I didn't think of it that way.
Speaker 2:That is an excellent analogy, thank you, and then we've got um, um, um, um, um, is it Cham?
Speaker 5:oh, champs and doula is a badass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and, and that is, that is a familiar name to us.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean it, it will be, yeah, the vaginal animal, you know I can't help it.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, we said there was going to be spoilers.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it will be. Yeah, the Vaginal Animal, stop spoiling. I can't help it. I'm sorry. We said there was going to be spoilers. Anyway, what?
Speaker 3:It is difficult, it is difficult, it is.
Speaker 2:It is difficult, but don't yeah.
Speaker 5:Don't forget that name Was Rebels, even in production. Yet no.
Speaker 2:But when that? So no, so again, that's just again. That's just dave being dave. Dave is like dave connects all the dots and he loves to use his favorite characters for everything and, as we know, so, um well, like zeb. Zeb, I think, is going to be in the mandalorian and grogu I think that was announced.
Speaker 3:So we showed him in the trailer right.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna see zeb, and you know he loves zeb wait, what now?
Speaker 4:mandalorian? What the?
Speaker 2:movie um oh, I didn't even know oh yeah, there's a, there's a live action. Well, it's of course, it's live action, but um, yeah, it's going to be in another show yeah, it's going to be in theaters and and Zeb, I don't think you've. You've got a little, a little taste of Zeb from. I think it was. Was it the Mandalorian or Ahsoka?
Speaker 3:yeah, man yeah, he was in the bar Mandalorian that's right, that's right, I think it was season two yeah so.
Speaker 2:So, sherry, you watched that, so you got a little bit of a taste of zeb. But once we hit rebels, then you're gonna you're gonna see more of that and like, like crash had mentioned with um, what's, what's the little boy's name?
Speaker 2:again from uh, storm over from uh oh, jay boo jay boo, jay boo, yeah, so jay boo was concept art for anakin.
Speaker 2:So, um, when you see zeb, zeb was the original concept art for chewbacca, really, yes, so all of the pretty much the entire rebel series is all based off of ralQuarrie's concept art. It's really, really cool. So, if you look at the art style and the landscapes and some of the character designs from Rebels and then you look at Ralph McQuarrie's concept art for Star Wars before it came out, they drew a lot of that from that and it was very, very cool. So it's, it's like they, they, they really do like to go back into those concept pieces and you know, like they don't want to throw anything away, like I think they used, uh, one of the one of the initial concepts for boba fett ended up becoming, um, a different character in rebels. So it's, uh, yeah, it's all over the place, but anyway, it's very, very cool, okay, um, so, yeah, wax they know yeah I'm sorry, we know this stuff, a lot of these behind the scenes that you know.
Speaker 5:So when, like you know, like the jabu or the the zeb chewbacca dave knows that you know we've all seen concept art, we go, oh look, it's that thing, they know, we know.
Speaker 2:And we're going to geek out. Yeah, it's that super, it's me. I'm a nerd, I don't care. All right, so finally, liberty of Ryloth, final episode of this arc. It's intense, yeah. So that know. Yeah, like I said, we, we meet, uh, we meet, uh, you know, again the resistance fighter, the french resistance um cindula. So again, remember that name. It's going to be popping up, uh, again sometime. And final episode in the season hostage, hostage crisis, which chronologically actually takes place during season three. It takes place in between two episodes in season three. I know, I know we probably should not have watched it now, but this is I'm not going to get that granular with how we're watching now we're fucked.
Speaker 4:We're not going to talk about Mace.
Speaker 2:We are going to talk about Mace.
Speaker 4:You just skipped over that episode.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm sorry, let's go back to Mace.
Speaker 4:No, it's fine.
Speaker 2:No, because Mace is a fucking badass. No, I have that. I have that in my notes. The final episode of the Ryloth arc. We meet an important Twi'leek leader and we see there was, but I don't know when he went, when he no, no, the, the one where he like, focused in the force.
Speaker 4:Oh, um, yeah, and it he was um they're falling off. He was saving the clones, and it got silent because he was focused like everything was like muffled I thought that was a good, I thought that was a little I don't know, I just liked it. I like how they did that, because you can tell that he was using all his energy to save them and himself.
Speaker 2:He was falling he was my man, was plummeting to his death. They turned off the bridge, plummeting to his death, and then everything does get silent and muffled and he's like in the zone he is.
Speaker 5:I loved it, he is in it I feel that sometimes you know that scene reminded like.
Speaker 2:All you hear is the blood pumping in your ears. That's like all year.
Speaker 5:Yes, that scene reminded me a lot Legolas from the Hobbit movie, when the bridge is falling and he's like using the falling bricks as it's a very. It shows the level of zen, like agility that mace, as a jedi master, can command and you're just like damn, your basic jedi probably can't pull this off no, no, I think mace is underutilized.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean what we saw in the in the micro series. One of the best episodes in the micro series was it. We didn't even watch it. We haven't watched it, but it's just Mace. And what the fuck? Why does Mace fuck up an entire army, like straight up, alone by himself?
Speaker 4:and Duku told them. When he said it was, you'll be no match, he was like for master window you're, you're, no, yeah, you need to retreat, but you have a whole row and dooku's run right, right, like shut the fuck up. I want to stay here. I'm gonna do what are you doing?
Speaker 5:I'm gonna steal every. Yeah, how much more stuff do you need to steal, bro, run you motherfuckers, that's.
Speaker 2:And, and like you, sure, like you said, like, think about it. You know the fucking supreme leader of of the separatists. Everything the supreme leader of the separatists tells you you're fucked first. He tells you what the fuck, what tambor you need to clean up your fucking mess until he finds out, until he finds out mace is there and he's like uh yeah, pump your brakes.
Speaker 2:Uh, let's, maybe let's go get your go bag and let's dd, because we dd mile, we dd now. You're no match for master windu, that's what he said. You are no match for master window, and I agree with you a thousand percent. I think mace is, is underutilized. Um, I think that he, I hope, I hope, I hope that we will get uh an eight episode mace windu series, live action, bringing samuel jackson back he said he'd do it. He posted some cryptic shit on his Instagram account. He said Mace is not dead.
Speaker 5:Not to disparage the band, but do you think he's got after seeing his fight scenes in Revenge of the Sith years ago? Do you think he's got the physicality to carry?
Speaker 4:a series like that you know what?
Speaker 2:have you seen tom cruise? Honestly, he doesn't. He doesn't need that, he doesn't need it. Look at what they did with luke. They brought luke back. Well, no, that that was creepy. They'll de-age him, he'll be, he'll get a body double and he'll be fine. I mean, well, look at, look at, in attack of the clones, when Dooku was fighting with Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Speaker 2:A lot of that was was Christopher's stunt double and they were all they could do yeah, they were, but I mean Christopher is is an adept fencer in real life anyway, so he was able to do a lot of the moves himself. He's like 130 years old so he's not going to. He can't do too many.
Speaker 5:I think they said his hands were fine. It's his footwork, because of his age and natural that was struggling to the level they needed for Dooku. If you shot him from the shoulders up, you're fine.
Speaker 2:But his technique is flawless.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So here's one thing here you guys are absolutely right. You can de-age him and whatnot, and honestly, I think they've proven in the Captain Marvel movie that you can de-age Samuel L Jackson and make him look very good. Oh, that's right. However, I will also point out to that movie the biggest problem with that movie is any time that Samuel L Jackson had to get physical. It was very obvious that he was an old man that they de-aged.
Speaker 2:But it might play to his favor though, because, think about it, I mean depending on where in the timeline they pick this up. I would like to think they'll pick it up maybe around mandalorian era timeline, so you know, post-imperial, but it'll work because a he's fucked up. I mean, he got, he got fucking out a window.
Speaker 2:He ate he. Yeah, he got yeeted out the window. I'm sure he hit a fucking a few speeders on the way down. Um, he got zapped with lightning. He got lightning, he got his hand chopped off. He's fucked up and he would be older.
Speaker 4:He would be older and I think, and he really actually I just looked up a picture of him he's doing all right. Okay, he's doing all right, he looks fine, I mean. But think about it Like what did we? 75 years old y'all. He'll be all right, he'll be fine, no, but I mean, like you can't see it, the lights.
Speaker 2:He's doing all right.
Speaker 4:For 75,. He looks phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Black don't crack. That's a true statement, that's a fact. Black don't crack.
Speaker 5:I'll be fair, he was actually good in the action sequences in the Marvels. He does a lot of fighting in the Marvels I'm in the marbles like he does a lot of fighting in the martin. Yeah, he held up. I'm just. I'm just remembering the puffy cheeks, you know, when he was fighting with palpatine, and you just saw him like big breaths, big breaths, and I'm like, oh god, I don't know if I can do eight episodes of this or just get him some stunt doubles but he wouldn't have to because also it when.
Speaker 2:When we look at mace, he he is. He is a fantastic swordsman, yes, but his strength is in the use of the force. Yes, he is so good at fucking dismantling shit, pulling it apart and then destroying you with your parts well, it just showed you, you really like that cartoon oh my god, I love it I see I'm.
Speaker 5:I'm always stuck with. Like, if mace windu can dismantle an army of droids with punches and pulling their pins apart, why did obi-wan hurt his shin kicking grievous?
Speaker 2:well, you know, they gotta show the because obi-wan's's not Mace but Obi-Wan has potential.
Speaker 1:Grievous isn't technically a droid. Who is it? But he's metal. He's not technically a droid.
Speaker 5:I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I would have the mentality fighting Grievous that I'm not fighting a droid. I'm using tactics that I would use against more.
Speaker 4:That's fair but I think he could. He could, like mace would have taken grievous's arms off. Yes, done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that would have been.
Speaker 5:It just saying but mace already fucked up he did obi-wan did was pull his chest apart. Yeah, I know getting close to grievous is tough, but I was like, okay, this is it.
Speaker 2:But we're not there yet. We haven't gotten there yet, soon Uncivilized. So, anyway, hostage crisis. So we do get to look at I don't want to say it's a filler, but it felt like a filler, but we're, we're getting another look at, uh, anakin's depth of love that he has, and and this time it's almost to an obsessive degree with Padme A little cringy it's well.
Speaker 4:I did like that he, he wanted to just escape with her and I think he would have been content with that. I think if she would have left right then and there, that that would have been the end of anakin.
Speaker 2:there wouldn't have been a darth vader nothing is more important to him than love. Nothing is more important to him than love and he knows that's wrong.
Speaker 4:Well, and he's conflicted about that and he has.
Speaker 2:He has nowhere to put that.
Speaker 3:You know there's there he has pet me oh, I pushed the wrong button.
Speaker 2:I pushed the wrong button, yeah um, I, I thought to.
Speaker 4:To be honest, I thought it was sweet of course, but it's.
Speaker 2:you could still see that there's like he almost was trying to like, guilt her into. Yes, you know, you know, taken off, but he, he gave up his lightsaber to her and he didn't think twice about it. So he, of course not, but it's again, it's. Love was Anakin's undoing, love was love is what turned him to the dark side. Yeah, and and why? I will always say he never fully turned because he always had love in his heart Again.
Speaker 4:So if he would have left with her in the episode, it would have been over.
Speaker 2:If they both would have left and never looked back, then we would never have had any more stars that would have been. No, that's all Created by George Lucas. Roll credits and done. I know, I know that, of course, but it's fun to speculate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don, but it's fun to speculate. Yeah, I don't disagree, so we did. This is the first appearance of cad bane, so that was pretty cool. I like him seeing cad bane for the first time. He is he's very, very cool, like old school western he is. He is the lee van cleef to clint east, to boba fett's clint eastwood. So when you're talking about like the good, the bad and the ugly, he is, you know, for those familiar with the old spaghetti westerns, cad Bane is that Lee Van Cleef character and and my hot take, my hot take is Cad Bane is the better bounty hunter. Cad Bane is a better bounty hunter than Boba Fett ever was.
Speaker 5:Yes, well, I think it was great. They needed a character, a bad guy who everybody could interact with on a regular basis that didn't cause ripples in the nerddom later on. Dooku and grievous and anakin can't meet. You know, dooku can only fight these guys so many times. Ventress can only fight these guys so many times. Ventress can only fight these guys so many. It's like bane was that guy that could like I'm not a force wielder, but I can mess with you week after week and get away with it and get away from you and survive like the worst. He's the opposite of dirge. Who's the worst bounty hunter? Jello mold man. What was the point of that guy? First, he's this big, bulky armor iron man from hell. Oh, by the way, he's just a jello mold inside. What was that?
Speaker 2:he's gummy worms. He's like this whole shit is gummy worms. But I don't. I I like cad bane. I I like him as a character. He's a a great character. He's not. I don't think we ever got enough of him. He's not a complex character, which I suppose that's good, because we have enough complex characters that we have to fucking try to deal with and cope with. You know, he's. There's no, there's no complicated emotions with this guy. He's fucking money, he's. He likes his job, he, he wants to get paid and that's it. He's. There's. Just I don't think we really learn much about his background. I don't think we learn much. He doesn't have a love interest. I mean, maybe he was tapping or a sing, I don't know, but her little bad guy has to have a tragic backstory.
Speaker 2:Maybe some people are just dicks yeah, I think that's cad, I think he loves it. I think that's cad, but I am gonna ship him in aura I is aura the. I'm still trying to do the sniping yeah, or a saying is yeah, we saw her in a phantom for the first time.
Speaker 5:Um, she has like seconds of screen time in the entire movie and then I had to fill in her backstory, I mean, I mean the girl who was doing the sniping in this episode yeah, that was her.
Speaker 2:That's aura saying okay, yeah, gotcha orange body suit fucking freakishly long fingers yeah, given headshots given headshots? Yes, she is, and I'm strong well she is. Yeah, they drew them. They don't draw anybody like they draw padme, though they give padme cakes and hips. I mean, they really do they. They draw the hell out of padme. Aura needs a burger. She needs, she needs a job. She needs a bronto burger or a ronto a ronto burger, not a bronto a ronto burger.
Speaker 5:Anyway, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that that episode takes place later. I hate these episodes, I know, jump around like I was there last week for the conspiracy one. Remember the one where the slick the clone I hate when they kept going back to christophsis from the movie and and like, as I was watching it and after I know they were the first season was kind of weird. They were talking about it was more of an anthology, it was just going to be individual stories but there was sort of a flow to it. And then you got to this one where they bust out Zero the Hut and you're like, okay, it's aftermath from the movie, he's free and we'll probably see him later on, whatever. When you said that was in season three, I'm like what? They jumped all the way to season 3 and back and it's a cool way ending the season by introducing the new bad guy for next year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so that To me that's a little confusing Because, like I mean, I haven't watched ahead, but I saw a lot of the synopsis For the episodes coming up in season two and like to me, that's what this was, was OK. We're introducing A character that's going to be a problem in the immediate future, right.
Speaker 2:So this is actually going backwards or going too far forward is odd okay but we didn't know that, like, of course, you know when, when this came out in 2009, obviously season three wasn't a thing yet it's just, you know, our lord and savior, dave, he gets a wild hair up his ass and he's like season three. Let's oh you know what let's go back to season one that no one's going to remember and let's make these two episodes and that one episode from season one fits in between these two episodes in season three. That's a great idea. Thanks, dave. I dave, I, I know you listen to the show. I still have nothing but love and faith for you. You are our savior. You did save the Star Wars franchise In Filoni. We trust that needs to be on money. That needs to be 100%.
Speaker 1:It was a fun episode.
Speaker 2:It needs to be on credits, oh there you go so thoughts, hot takes about season one, since we're wrapping it up and moving into season two. Louis, what you got, you've been kind of quiet um, I well, I don't want to be negative no go, you can, you can be, I go ahead.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't want to be, I don't want to be super, so I'm going into season two like I'm having a hard time being excited for season two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair. Season one is rough.
Speaker 3:The last arc. You know the Ryloth arc. You know I, obviously I know through talking to everybody you know that arcs become a much more important thing going forward in the show. The Ryloth arc was really like the first of those and of course we get it right at the end of the season. So you really have to get to season two before you start getting those more impactful arcs. You know what I mean. So getting through the season was, uh was, a challenge. I'm excited because, again, I know from being a fan of star wars there's a lot of good stuff coming um, but yeah, overall was not a ginormous fan of season one yeah, that's fair, that's, and that I don't that's.
Speaker 2:That's not a negative take I. I think that's pretty universal. It's cool. I mean it was content that we didn't get for years and years and years. So, seeing this animated, brand new stories. Yes, it's for preteens, but if you're older you can still enjoy it. But it was a little rough. It was a bit of a slog to get through, but I'm proud of us. We got through it.
Speaker 5:Anybody else.
Speaker 5:It's a lot of the groundwork. The show lays a lot of groundwork for not just future seasons but for the fandom in a way that you know, going into the show, everybody was like, well, let me guess, oh, we want to survive. Yeah, that you know. Going into this show, everybody was like, well, let me guess, obi-wan survives, anakin survives, spider-man survives. Everybody knows where this was going for episode three and we'll get into that when we get into the final season and what Dave did, kind of mix and match stuff from the movies.
Speaker 5:But the problem that the show had in the first season was that the older audience was like, well, I know who lives, I know who dies, what do I care? And as we were talking with Ahsoka, as she becomes more capable, the audience starts going okay, this girl's got some game. Okay, I can follow these clones. I'm starting to get to like these clones. They're not just disposable grunts, they have personality. Captain Rex is a badass. You start finding people outside of the quote big three to sort of start rooting for and and that'll carry over into season two. I won't give that much away, but that's something you can see, dave, and especially, like we were saying, with the ryloth arc. They started to kind of press the gas a little bit and say, okay, you like clones with personality, we're going to give you wax and boil and then we're going to give you. You're going to start identifying with certain clones as we go along yeah and you know what was nice about?
Speaker 2:about, uh, waxer and boil. What was was refreshing? Um, usually that what we've seen, what we got used to in season one as soon as we learn the name of a clone, that motherfucker's dead, that's a death sentence. Like, no, don't tell me his name. Oh, man, there they go, fuck you. You gave us all their names and you put ahsoka in charge. Son of a bitch. I liked axe, no, and then. So you know, the first time when you watch it, don't wax or boil. Don't tell me, oh, my god, they're gonna get eaten by these giant space roaches, whether or fuck those things were like oh, my god, oh my god oh, and you know what we didn't have.
Speaker 2:No one goes on the wall of remembrance for these last five episodes. No, there were some clones that died, but none of them died in like horribly gruesome ways no not really a couple got picked off by the cockroaches, but that's, we didn't know.
Speaker 5:We didn't know them, they were, they were just.
Speaker 2:I think Obi-Wan saved them, didn't I mean, didn't he? Or did they? Did they die, die, or did they?
Speaker 5:I think. I think a couple of them didn't he, or did they die-die? I think a couple of them got killed the first wave, I don't remember, yeah well, but they weren't like.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like. It wasn't like earlier in the season when the dude got eaten by the space eel. I mean he went out screaming, you know what I mean that was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there was no screaming.
Speaker 2:People, some of them died. Yeah, it was quick and painless. It wasn't like. It wasn't like a gruesome, horrible. Like you, you know the task like being eaten alive by a shark. That's like you're going on the wall of remembrance for that one because but there's, there's plenty more. I think our wall of remembrance is going to grow very quick. I need to get that up on the website too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I haven't seen second season, like ever. I don't think I've seen any of the rest of it?
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 4:First season. I watched some with you before, but so, yeah, this will be my first.
Speaker 2:Now what about everybody else Crash. I think you've seen everything.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I've watched them multiple times, okay.
Speaker 1:So this seen everything, yeah, I've watched them multiple times. Okay, so this was my first, first watch through of this season, let alone all the rest of it. Um, and I will say I'm really glad to be doing this now, because I mean, to louie's point, like, if I like, if I was watching this back when these things were coming out, yeah, this season was kind of a slog to get through and it's somewhat disjointed and it has its flaws. But being able to do it in batches and knowing that, hey, if I wanted to, I could start watching season two right now I'm not going to yet, but I can but the idea that I could have waited every week to watch an episode, get through this whole slog of a season and then be told okay, now we're going to go away for half a year, three quarters of a year, before we come back, I don't know that I would have come back at that point.
Speaker 2:All right, so it's really great that I'm able to do that now you think this was bad, try watching it with cartoon network commercials oh, I remember that when you used to watch it all right so but yeah, like there wasn't, there wasn't a huge weight because season two came out in October, october 2nd 2009. So you didn't have much of a weight. So you had the summer, so summer reruns, basically Because this ended in March. Season one ended in March, so you had April, may, june, july, august.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but now, with the way we can binge, you can just get through seasons, because I know there's a lot of things that people are like well, just get to the first season. After that, it's great. I don't like that usually, right.
Speaker 2:It's like if you don't have me, if you don't have me up front.
Speaker 4:Then you don't have me up front, then you don't got me. Right, that's it, so I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's more than it's like if I had, if I was watching this in real time. Okay, I've got from March slash April till October. That's plenty of time for me to find something else to be interested in, to take my time Correct. Or by the time it comes back, I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm still? I'm still enjoying this, but now that's not a problem anymore.
Speaker 2:So, because cartoon and cartoon network played the fuck out of these, like you, even though the season ended, it wasn't over. Like you, I mean, they, they really they re-ran the hell out of it. It was like non-stop. And then you would get like marathons, you would. You know, coming up this saturday, the clone wars marathon. You know, 12 hours of clone war, you know. So I mean the same three commercials every break the same three commercials every fucking break. You know, I miss Cartoon Network, but I don't miss that.
Speaker 1:If you want to get that experience, watch YouTube regularly.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I know, I have that experience all the time. What is it now? What is it now on YouTube that I keep seeing fucking constantly? It's the something about like therapy, like some kind of like mental health therapy thing.
Speaker 1:Anal leakage it's like better help. There's a few different ones Better help.
Speaker 2:I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think you're right. I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4:You're making me crazy with you and I'm going to need help.
Speaker 2:I just opened up YouTube because usually that's uh like what's our homework, we're over, that'll pop up, right. But why is it that when I, when I open it up, it's it's brazilian tv hd.
Speaker 4:Women's beach flag highlights that's because you're watching women's volleyball um, I'm just supporting the home team.
Speaker 2:I'll have to revisit that later, okay, so? Anyway, I'm just very proud of women athletes okay brazilian and spanish beach volleyball anyway.
Speaker 2:So, so homework. There is no homework because we're going to be off for the next two weeks. This is the end of our season as well. So we're going to be returning on September 7th with the start of our new season, and we're going to be discussing the Clone Wars season two. So while we're off for the next two weeks, this is a perfect opportunity for you to go back and binge episodes of Star Wars sucks, in case you happen to miss something.
Speaker 2:So, and if you want to know what's going to be coming up for our new season, and if you want to see what we're going to be watching and check out our roadmap, just head on over to circle of nerds dot com, slash the S W S show, because during this two weeks I will be updating everything and fingers crossed and getting our shit together. So that's another reason we're taking two weeks off, just so we have a break, so we can you know, we can make like clips and do some promo and all that good shit. So, and we're going to be coming back and then, and then after that season, we're going to be doing. Our season in Boston was going to be season four, from boss to Ween, from Daddy Louie's command center.
Speaker 3:Can't wait.
Speaker 2:Are you sure? I can't wait.
Speaker 3:I told you I can't get loud.
Speaker 4:We'll do it from the Airbnb.
Speaker 2:This is going to be awesome. I will have everyone in my house.
Speaker 4:Oh God, as he chokes, are you okay? Do I need to call 911?
Speaker 1:That's why we don't have a visual on him, so we don't know if he's okay.
Speaker 4:Okay, don't make him laugh.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 4:We can't see him.
Speaker 2:We can't see him. He's got the color bars out, the color bars. All right, louie, don't die.
Speaker 1:I will say though, guys, while our fans are going to our site to check out the wall of remembrance as it gets built and everything, don't forget to check out our merch. I haven't gotten to that part yet. I thought this was a good segue, that's a great segue.
Speaker 2:You know what, Tony?
Speaker 4:Tell them about the merch. Tony's saying shut the fuck up because I'm tired.
Speaker 2:All right, Tell them about the merch Tony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come to our site. We got a lot of great merch Star Wars sucks logo on it. You can get all sorts of different other logos on it. Check it out. It all helps us out and we appreciate it and send us pictures and stuff if you buy it, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go. Tag us, tag us, follow us on all the social media at the SWS show. Make sure you subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or YouTube If you're interested. We will be having some of this stuff up on Patreon soon, I hope, so head on over to patreoncom slash circle of nerds and you're going to find all of these, the full videos of everything we're doing. That's exclusive. Our video is nowhere else, not even on YouTube, so we just have the audio version of the podcast on YouTube. So if you want to check us out and all of our nerdy glory, you want to get the full width and girth of this show, then patreoncom slash circleofnerds is the spot for you. Circleofnerdscom slash merch for all of your merchandising needs, as T to the only had mentioned, and that's going to do it for us. So thank you for a wonderful season. Thank you Everyone. Crash. Thank you for joining us for so many episodes been fun, look forward to seeing you guys in two weeks.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, you guys, I have me a lot.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, we'll take, take. So yeah, anybody have anything else on the way out?
Speaker 3:No, negative.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm good. No, don't do drugs, well. Well, I mean, you know I don't know, I'm joking, it's for the kids.
Speaker 2:No human trafficking and no drugs, no human god. You hate fun.
Speaker 1:Definitely you hate fun the jedi would know human trafficking drugs, but human trafficking.
Speaker 2:So okay, so I guess we draw the line that that's our line in the sand.
Speaker 4:Huh, that's the hill we're gonna die in no human trafficking do not buy children to watch the show yeah, because after the show's done you can't send them back well you could, but well you can't no, because usually they they've moved on by that time.
Speaker 1:The traffickers have moved on the return policies are just ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Really, yeah, who saves the receipt? It's usually always cash transactions too. Take them a bag of money.
Speaker 5:Try to leave a kid at Kohl's, like here. Take this back.
Speaker 2:No, I think you can leave them at fire stations now.
Speaker 4:No, no no, no, that's only in safe haven states.
Speaker 5:Ohio is not a safe typical. Typical, I felt like an amazon return.
Speaker 2:You take them to cole's. You take them in the back, leave it on the drug mart drop them off at drug mart or something michigan's.
Speaker 4:Right across the way they're safe haven.
Speaker 1:I'm not driving ohio jd vance wants to save all the kids, right, send them to his house, it'll be fine with on his couch I wouldn't do, do that, I would not send my children Sorry Purchased or I agree.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't either.
Speaker 2:I would not send my children to JD Vance. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:No political stuff.
Speaker 2:No political stuff. That's right, all right, no political stuff.
Speaker 1:All right, that's it Great season everyone.
Speaker 3:Thank you again so much for hanging out with us and, uh, you know, sucking on star wars with us.
Speaker 4:Oh, did you want to tell them that, that you didn't know succulents were real. Why, why?
Speaker 2:do I have to say, why do you have to put me out there, fucking like?
Speaker 4:that succulents and you're all fake I don't think our listeners are fake. No Succulents, the plants.
Speaker 2:I know for a fact. We have listeners. There's 20 of them every week that listen to our podcast. That's not what I meant. The succulents, the plants yes, I did think that those were not real.
Speaker 4:I just thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2:No, you thought it was funny. You thought it was a fucking idiot for not knowing. I didn't think you were an idiot that you said that. I did not. When I said that you the look on your face was this fucking idiot.
Speaker 4:I didn't actually do that, but you may not have thought your face caught it I was like, yeah, I need to get some succulents, though we really they're really nice, I like. And he was like, yeah, those fake plants. And I was like they're not fake. I said a lot of them are fake. You can buy fake. Oh shit, I didn't know that was. You named the show after a second.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry we all have gaps in our knowledge. This is just a thing that happens.
Speaker 5:That being said, we're going to call you out when you have one, okay.
Speaker 2:So what had happened was I've never seen a succulent in real life. You have, that's okay. They've always felt plastic to me and I've always seen them in stores and assume that they're plastic. Why would you sell a real plant in fucking 7-eleven?
Speaker 2:it's not, it's gonna die, they're not, they're cacti, they're part of the cacti family and the reason that we call our listeners succulents is because the name of the show no, because the name of the show is star wars sucks succulents. It just fit. It's dumb, it fits. It's not that it's dumb, it's, it's. It's a cute little play on words. I know that. I agree, but our listeners are real. I know they are. I've seen the analytics. I've seen the death. I know that our listeners are out there. I know you've seen them death. I know that our listeners are out there. I know I've seen them outside of CBS.
Speaker 5:They're real, they're real.
Speaker 1:I've seen them. It might even be prickly.
Speaker 4:They're in the window of CBS. They're real. Goddamn Tommy, buy me some succulents.
Speaker 2:I got your succulent, all right. Tommy, buy me some succulents. I got your succulent, all right.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, Anyway, that just tickled me the other day.
Speaker 2:Now I don't even want to say the thing, I don't even want to say the line now, because I don't know, I'm embarrassed. What are you embarrassed? I don't know, I'm embarrassed All right. Now I know succulents are a real thing.
Speaker 5:Yes, Both our listeners and the plant life. Yes, okay, succulents are friends not food.
Speaker 2:Succulents are friend, not food. Can you not eat succulents I?
Speaker 3:I have no idea is aloe vera a succulent oh probably part of that same, I'm gonna say, going to say yeah, it probably is.
Speaker 2:So you can eat them. You can eat aloe vera.
Speaker 4:It's supposed to be really good for you, you can take the aloe vera out of it and put it in things.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying you just snap off a leaf and start gnashing it.
Speaker 3:You can eat it like a cute gum.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I've never had the.
Speaker 3:I have one at work, I will get you all right, fry it up for him it's like fried okra actually you can't fried succulents, all right so I'm going to be sucking on some succulent.
Speaker 2:That's a t-shirt. What? Sucking on a succulent?
Speaker 4:oh my god that is a t-shirt.
Speaker 2:Write that down well, it's in the show. I'll remember, sure, okay, okay, all right. So anyway, thank you so much for uh tuning in like you do. Uh, thank you, as always, my little succulents, and always remember if nobody does anything nice for you, please, please, please, do something nice to yourself and we're going to see y'all in two weeks. Yeah, succulent yourself, okay, we'll see you guys in a couple weeks, september 7th, same bat time, same bat channel. We love you. Bye you.