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Lightsabers or Love: TCW Season 2: Ep 13-16
What if Padmé Amidala's possible Force sensitivity developed through her relationship with Anakin—could "sexually transmitted Force" really be a thing? Anakin does have a mighty midichlorian count. Just sayin'.
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This week, political intrigue, cold-blooded murder and forbidden love. It's the Clone Wars, season 2, episodes 13 through 16. This week on your Star Wars safe space, stick around. Oh, that intro never gets old. Absolutely love it. Howdy Star Warriors. Welcome to Star Wars Safe Space, your non-toxic, low-sodium star wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that the peak of mount umate is the only part of the planet's surface still visible on coruscant. Pretty cool, and we saw that again in this episode or in an episode we're gonna talk about this week, as well as the mandalorian. I totally missed it. I totally missed it during the clone wars, but then as we watch, I hey, that's the thing from Mandalorian, okay, anyway, so whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious.
Speaker 1:This is your Star Wars safe space welcome. And who are we? We are the Circle of Nerds and we do absolutely love Star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So let's meet the crew, shall we? From my left, your right star of stage and screen, it is the Sensational Sherry.
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Speaker 2:hello children oh okay, that's not creepy.
Speaker 1:This is by far the corniest bit that we do on our show meeting the family thing. It's just so, corny and hailey. For part unknown, it's t of the corniest bit that we do on our show, this little meet in the family thing. It's just so, corny and Haley for parts unknown.
Speaker 3:It's T to the Oni. Welcome back to the Galaxy, everybody.
Speaker 1:Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. I am Tommy D. You're more than slightly obnoxious Star Wars know-it-all. So what are we doing here? Well, pretty simple. Our mission is to watch all of the star wars shows and uh films in canon sort of, uh in chronological order sort of I mean. So we're watching all the canon star wars films and tv shows in chronological, chronological order sort of. And today because for the most part, for the most part.
Speaker 1:Yes, uh, we're not supposed to be watching a release order, but, holy fuck, dave Filoni. Jesus Christ, could you just stop jumping around please. Things will get more consistent, but anyway. So we're going to be breaking these shows down, asking some questions, connecting the dots, learning more about Star Wars and maybe even a little about ourselves. So a word of warning there will be spoilers. We will do our best to avoid them, however it may happen. So this week we're continuing on with season two of the Clone Wars, with episodes 13 through 16. These episodes did release February and March of 2010, and they take place 21 and 22 BBY. So, bby, before the Battle of Yavin, which, uh, battle of yavin, of course, is from, uh, star wars, a new hope, 1977. I wasn't supposed to go into that whole spiel again. Was I sharing? We talked about that. No, we talked about it, we talked about that and I forgot. So, anyway, bby, bby, we'll talk about it. And, uh, like, look it up, I guess, but before the battle of yavin. That's what bby means not look it up?
Speaker 2:if you've been listening to us, if you've been listening.
Speaker 1:So for the 10 people that have listened to us, they already know even new in the beginning. They should start at the beginning yes, so bby, before the battle of yavin, which was actually the yavin was where there was a, an old temple oh my god, tom okay where the rebel forces struck the final blow we're good all right, anyway, you're losing me, I'm losing myself all right, let's get into it, right?
Speaker 1:uh, episode 13 voyage of temptation. I know I was tempted. Anything with obi-wan is just like sherry's got some buttons, you got some buttons, oh shit, she's dangerous. I figured out we got to do something with the art because it's weird. I don't know, streamer does this weird thing with the ducking, so like it comes in, but then it like fades out yeah on it again.
Speaker 1:Do the crickets again. Oh, that came in strong. That's good that time. That was weird. The first crickets they were like I don't know, that's weird because I cut them off.
Speaker 2:I cut them off it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's why. Okay, all right, so voyage of temptation. Uh, there's a lot going on, a lot of political intrigue in this episode. Um, duchess satine is a savage sitting up there on her on her pillow throne, with the sex bots hanging out, with drinking martinis. Martinis, while, uh, while, joes are just getting fucking sauced on the ship. So let's, uh, okay, she didn't know, she didn't know, she didn't know about the saucings that were happening.
Speaker 1:But we do need to talk about our wall of remembrance. We did lose red eye and mixer, and I always get nervous when they say their names. Every time they give us a name, I'm just like, oh man, like some, like I've seen a lot of these, but I don't remember every single trooper that gets, that gets murked. But, uh, of course I didn't remember that red eye and, uh, and mixer got it. And then there's baby spider. Trooper, the, fucking, the baby, the, the, the little baby assassin. Spider went into a couple of, went into his helmet, that poor guy, he died. Harsh, who died harsh? Yikes, all right. So this was a great episode.
Speaker 1:We're seeing more of Obi-Wan's depth, you know. We've got more political intrigue, which you know this episode does bring up more interesting questions. Star Wars, of course, has always been about politics, so politics has been as much a part of Star Wars as lightsabers and the force. They go hand in hand. So we're going to have some political episodes, it's just going to happen. So we're continuing on with this whole Mandalorian thing, mandalorians wanting to maintain pacifism and independence and the Republic wanting to quote, unquote save them and help them.
Speaker 1:Satine just wants more boots on the ground and he wants an occupying force on as many worlds as he can possibly get them onto. We do see more from the Death Watch. We do see a little bit more about Obi-Wan and Satine's relationship and Jon Favreau. He reprises his role as Paz Vizsla. So, if you weren't aware, that's the voice of Paz or pre-Vizsla I'm sorry, pre-vizsla, not Paz, pre-vizsla. So and he's kind of a whiny buckethead Sherry, I think you even mentioned that too. It's like he's always whining about some shit. He's a very entitled guy, he's just like you titled guy.
Speaker 2:He's just, like you know, had a trust fund. He's a trust fund kid bored trust fund kid.
Speaker 1:What I wanted, so like so crying about, always crying about some shit. So here's, here's my question, here's my question for the group um, unless there's any standout moments. Does anybody have any standout moments? Um?
Speaker 2:well, for me it was the jedi pushing their beliefs on other people again. Yeah, like well, I'm gonna take care of you. And she's saying I don't need your help, I got this, you know. So she doesn't, but but I understand where she's coming from. Well, I think she does. I mean she understands the consequences. But again, obi-wan's freaking mansplaining shit Like she hasn't ruled a whole planet and a whole bunch of other things. What did she say? 1,500 systems?
Speaker 1:Yes, I think so, thousands of worlds, 1,500 systems.
Speaker 2:So I think she knows something.
Speaker 1:All right, they did have that moment when they were in each other's faces. And it's funny because our daughter was kind of like I mean she wasn't watching with us, but I mean it was on in the background and she was, like you know, chilling in the dining room and she really doesn't know anything about their relationship. But even she was like, oh okay, there's a lot of sexual tension there between those two, just because of the way that they were arguing with each other, right? So I mean that was pretty interesting. I really like that between those two, just because of the way that they were arguing with each other right knowing.
Speaker 1:So, I mean, that was that was pretty interesting. I really like that. So, um, we also did have anakin bringing up a very, uh, a very interesting point, and satine allude she, she mentioned it as well when, when obi-wan said you know, we're, we're jedi, we're fighting for peace no you know, satine was like what a. What an interesting contradiction. Fighting, you know, and sherry. That goes back to what you were saying. It's like, you know, the jedi are always kind of inserting themselves right, you're supposed to be peaceful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're the peacekeepers.
Speaker 1:Right, but they're. They're more of the peacemakers like they're going to go in. They're supposed to be peaceful yeah, they're the peacekeepers not right, but they're. They're more of the peacemakers like they're going to go in, they're going to make peace happen and in many ways, are they doing the same thing that palpatine's doing. You know, you think so yes louis tony, what do you guys?
Speaker 3:think. I mean I agree, although I think that's partially due to his influence. I mean, again, this is just. This is a circumstance that led up to this point of OK, we don't know, the Republic, for the longest time, didn't really have an army to speak of, because there was no need for one to speak of, because there was no need for one. Now, all of a sudden, we've got all these clones. But we need leaders to help them with that. We employ the Jedi into this role that they're not really used to doing. They've never needed to do. I think, for the most part, they're doing the best they can, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1:Good point, louis. Yeah, but it is what it is, okay, all right.
Speaker 4:Good point, louis, yeah but the problem with the Jedi is, up until this point, right. They're according to canon. I mean, what do they say in episode one? There hasn't been a Sith in and you know how long and there weren't really many wars, or you know, like tony said, there wasn't a need for for the jedi to to be in that role, but I think it came. I don't. I don't think they're doing the best that they can. I think that there was. I think they're behind the curve because of their arrogance. There had been such a long period of time time Until the events of the Phantom Menace, before the time of Palpatine starting to spin his wheels, there was no peace and justice to be held.
Speaker 1:Some pirates, smugglers, some border disputes, probably here and there. Right so at this point.
Speaker 4:They're arrogant as fuck. So this all happens, know, normally it would humble someone and it has not humbled the jedi no they are still stumbling over their own feet instead of being able to, you know, accept that this is their fault, or at least a big part of it is their fault their blindness, their arrogance. Instead of it humblingbling them. I don't know what they're thinking at this point.
Speaker 1:And Palpatine is masterfully using that weakness against them Right Exactly.
Speaker 1:So this is the underlying thing that people should be watching. So if you're new to the Clone Wars, as you're, you're watching these episodes. Sure, some of them might feel like filler, but really look at the underlying message that that's that's happening here, you know, and that is, palpatine is a chess master. Everything that's happening, even the missteps, even things that don't necessarily go his way, like we'll talk about that a little bit later on. Um, when padme brings the actual good recording into the senate. He wasn't expecting that, you know, but he still got his way. The senate still voted in favor of keeping the, the production going, so he still ended up getting his way. I'm sure he had to, like you know, work his magic, but but even when things don't go his way, it goes his way. You know everything, every, every time we see. You know the boys out there on a planet somewhere, you know, fighting the separatists in order to get clone troops on the ground. Palpatine made that happen. I mean everything, even this thing with death watch.
Speaker 4:Everything is is through palpatine's machinations, everything and going back to what you said about how you know, palpatine was feeding into the Jedi's arrogance. Go and watch scenes in the movies and even in the Clone Wars cartoon with Palpatine after the Jedi had done something, he was always oh, master Jedi. He was always blowing them up, he was always boosting their ego. Oh yeah, you know, like every interaction, like I know, you'll make the right decision, and meanwhile he's the one fucking making the decision. You know, and what a glorious battle that you guys did. Even though he knew that it was going to go in, that he wanted it to go in that direction, you made that battle happen. He's feeding into their arrogance, which is just making them more blind to what's really going on and I have.
Speaker 1:You know what? I have a question I'm sorry, sherry one second.
Speaker 2:Um, I have a question, so hang on to that, because I got a question for us later on concerning that, sherry, please continue well, the only thing I I can think of is and I know this is star wars and it's part jedis need to be in the mix. I understand that part, but the thing is is, if let's say this was real, the clones are genetically altered to be leaders, workers, like it. They're already altered to do that. You don't even need to do this. I know why they do it, I understand it, but I'm just saying like, in the grand scheme, they should have said no, we're not going to go into your war. If you're a peacemaker, right, they shouldn't even have been part of. They shouldn't be generals, freaking admirals, all kinds of shit like what. So you're looking for power as well, just like palpatine.
Speaker 4:So really, they both, both sides yeah well because they, up until that point, they, they had all the power. You know what I mean. So now they feel that power slipping away and again just feeds more into the just their mindset. They're, they've just become so full of themselves really it's what it comes down to. They become so full of themselves that literally they're, they're doing like they're it, it's it, it's blowing up literally from the inside. Anakin is literally the Trojan horse.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is. He is a perfect example and I love like, again, if you really look beyond just the superficial entertainment value of star wars, you know Anakin is the, the child of Jedi arrogance. I mean he, really he is the child of jedi arrogance and sith manipulation. One percent he. He is what's at the end of the cautionary tale. You know, he is the consequence, he is the warning, he is you, this is what happens. If you know that is Anakin Skywalker and you know, and we see Palpatine. Just, you know, the guy is a dick. I mean, there's no doubt about it, he is a fucking grade a dick. But he is an artist. I mean he, this is he's.
Speaker 2:He's giving us a masterclass on how to take over shit and and, and you don't even realize it's happening. Well, it just sucks because that's happening in real life, which is hilarious, absolutely, absolutely absolutely 100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and and with with palpatine. You know, we've seen it time and time again. He's standing in a room with yoda mace, windu obi-wan kenobi, you know, the jedi council, the most powerful jedi in the galaxy. They have no fucking clue who is standing right in fucking front of their faces. That's power. That's power.
Speaker 4:That's it's, yeah, that's that's why. That's why one of the one of the coolest scenes with Palpatine, in my opinion, is the closing scene of. Phantom Menace yeah he's, when he's literally just standing there among all of these people who literally just fought a war because of his manipulation, and not a single person there knows it, his boy literally murdered the guy that we're we're burning today and he's just like, yeah, it's good to be me, it's good to be me so and he, and he looks down at anakin yeah, there he is we'll be watching your career with great interest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I bet we will, motherfucker. So this is what I'm challenging everyone. I challenge everyone, all of our listener, everyone here on the cast. I challenge everyone look at each episode with fresh eyes, as a building block towards the empire. Like, really look at every episode in that way. Don't just look at it as an episode about Jar Jar Binks or about Padme or about Obi-Wan and Anakin blowing shit up like they do. Go deeper, look, deeper. Look and ask yourself how is Palpatine involved with this episode? I think that's a fun little challenge that we could all do. I like that a lot. The most innocuous filler episodes that just don't mean anything. Ask yourself how is palpatine involved in this? Some of them will be obvious. Some of them because he's fucking in it and he just told that thing, but then others it might not be as obvious. So really look at these episodes and really ask yourself you know what? What would papa palpy do?
Speaker 4:what? What would palpatine?
Speaker 1:do? How is? How is he involved? And I I would be really interested for us to talk about that, you know, next time. Like, what were your thoughts in on how palpatine was involved with that particular episode? So, all right, so right. So we'll be done with the Voyage of Temptation, which was again great episode, real quick, though. Mandalorian neutrality what are your thoughts on that? Is it neutrality and that passivity, that pacifist culture, is it what's best for Mandalore or is it culturally it what's best for mandalore, or is it culturally suppressive? Because mandalore and mandalorians, they, they are a warrior culture, but that warrior culture did damn near destroy their entire life that's.
Speaker 2:that's the problem. So there has to be a balance. I mean, her military is capable, obviously, so they're still capable. I think what she did, or whoever started the whole thing of this passivity and the peace, I think is smart, because you can still be a warrior race without destroying the whole system.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:I think you don't need all that Right.
Speaker 1:I think you really nailed it when you said balance. You know it's like you. You don't have to go full pacifist, but you don't have to go full on fucking death watch either necessarily.
Speaker 2:Right, that's, that's the thing. Like she's carrying a weapon, yeah, either necessarily, right, that's, that's the thing. Like she's carrying a weapon, yeah, I mean. I mean she's good with it too, but it's not, it's not a blaster, it's, you know, it's to take, you know, I don't know what they call it deactivator.
Speaker 1:Is that what obi-wan? Deactivator?
Speaker 2:something like that. Yeah, so I mean, she still knows how to protect herself and she can fight a little. So they're still mandalorians. They feel oppressed. It's, it's the death watch. They're like oh, mom, won't let me go kill things, okay, well, because you shouldn't kill things, like there's no need, but it's still too.
Speaker 1:It's too. Again, it always comes back to balance. Like you said, it's still two extreme sides of the same coin. You can still have mandalorian culture without non-violence, you know, and without all violence, you know, it's again. It's always going back to jedi and sith. You know, the jedi aren't 100 right, the sith aren't 100 right, but you bring them together, you might have something. Louis, tony, I think she's wonderful.
Speaker 1:She's great, but she's still too far on that side. She's too much of a pacifist. I don't think so. I think we can incorporate some more of the Mandalorian warrior culture without being just bloodthirsty Klingon-like fucking warriors just going through and spreading our seed of destruction across the galaxy.
Speaker 4:I agree. They're too far polar opposites of each other. There has to be some kind of middle ground.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we get there eventually. I mean, quite frankly, I completely understand the ideal of neutrality and peace, but when you have a known faction of your own people doing what the Death Watch is doing, it is a disservice to your people to not fight. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they can fight amongst themselves, they don't need the Republic. That's what she was saying. Agreed, yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3:But granted Satine doesn saying we agree. But granted Satine doesn't necessarily know this. But the Death Watch, whether or not she's aware of it or not, they're acting on behalf of the Separatists. Yes, half of the war is already involved. You can't just ignore that.
Speaker 1:But they're also using the separatists, like the separatists are using them, but they're using the separatists. You know, the Death Watch, at this point in time, are referred to as terrorists, but, like we did here in the episode, that if the Republic does send troops, then the Death Watch will be looked at as heroes and liberators, correct, you know, so are. They are the death watch, the death watcher extreme. No doubt about it. I mean, there's no question. Um, previsual is a fucking asshole and should not be leading that. That charge, um, but the death watch itself, you know, looking, looking to preserve mandalorian culture. You know, I, I don't think I'd call them terrorists. I think they're being, I think they're being led by a terrorist, um, yeah, yeah, or someone who's like extremely off the rails.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think they come together and find an even ground without the Republic. I think that that is her issue. She doesn't want the Republic there, because they need to deal with their own issues on their planet. You don't need to bring in more war. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:So if they take care of it on their own planet with their own shit, that's what should happen right, I agree.
Speaker 1:Um, all right. So, uh, wrapping up this episode, we'll move forward because the next episode, duchess of mandalore, we can no, no, don't be sorry, that's fine, this is a great discussion. So, moving on to duchess of mandalore, um, one last thing for voyage of temptation. When, um, when merrick was talking shit at the end he was like you know, you know, duchess, you can't kill me, because then you're a hypocrite and you know you're. You're not gonna be a pacifist one. You can't kill me because you're gonna look bad in front of your girl here. So you know which one of you is going to be the cold-blooded murderer. And then I love, I love that interaction. I love that interaction between him and obi-wan. Obi-wan's like, oh, anakin, and anakin's like he was gonna blow up the ship. It's like but I don't know if you guys noticed, but when he does that, when he does, when he does sauce Merrick, you hear Darth Vader's theme in the background oh yeah, every time every time.
Speaker 1:So it's just him getting one step closer, one step closer. I thought that was nice, all right. So moving on, episode 14, duchess of mandalore 21, bby. Chronologically, this actually takes place later on in season two, um, before episode 20. So the events of this episode actually take place before the episode, the events of episode 20 here in season two. So we're all over the place. So, john, I mean it's over now. And Dave, please, you guys don't, don't do this again.
Speaker 4:Don't ever do that again.
Speaker 1:Don't ever do that again. Just fucking keep shit on, all right. So you know we've got. We've got more of the same going on in this episode. You know it's more with Satine trying to gain some kind of control, but we're also seeing more of Palpatine's actions like up close now because he's in the episode. So now we're seeing more and more of his maneuvering. And you know we're seeing more and more of Obi-Wan and Satine's relationship.
Speaker 1:You know, in the last episodeakin was like did you know, did you know? And obi-wan, of course, always a classy guy and he's like you know it's not relevant, but obi-wan did say something very interesting though too. You know anakin was like well, you know, we all know what. You know master yoda says about attachment and obi-wan, you know he had said yeah, but he doesn't tell you about the remorse. He doesn't talk about remorse. As hardcore jedi philosophy as obi-wan is, he still recognizes that the jedi are not telling him everything. And and even told satine if you would have said the word, I would have left. The jedi are not telling him everything. And and even told satine, if you would have said the word, I would have left the jedi order. Ah, when he said that, I. I felt it in my chest. I was like, oh, the love he has for that woman still and I think that that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 4:It has to be one of the reasons why Obi-Wan always turned the other way when it came to Anakin and Padme. Oh yeah, cause Obi-Wan's not an idiot, right? I mean, that's his best friend, that's his brother, like.
Speaker 2:I still think he knows.
Speaker 4:Even if he didn't know. No, he knew. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 4:And he always turned that other cheek because he wants, I mean and this is one of the reasons why because he gets it.
Speaker 1:He wants Anakin to have what he didn't, what he couldn't, you know. So he's not going to get in the way. He's going to let Anakin try to figure it out. So I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 4:I really love, until he then says you know, I failed you, anakin. That could be part of the reason he feels that way, of course. That he just said something about Padme to the Jedi Council and they had gotten involved in their relationship.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:Maybe Anakin wouldn't have been tempted by the dark side as much Right.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I believe Ki-Adi-Mund mundi. I think he's got a wife and kids, if I'm not mistaken. I'll have to look it up, but I'm I'm almost positive that he's got a wife and kids. So I I don't remember the reasoning behind that. I guess the cultural thing, or maybe their population was dying or something. I don't know. I don't remember, but, um, I'll look back into it.
Speaker 1:So the jedi, they do make exceptions, but I'm curious what? What are your thoughts? Because there's really not a whole lot to dig into this episode. Um, we see more of obi-wan's growth, which is great, and we, you know, try to keep him, keep this in mind as we see his progression and look at how he evolves once we get up to the kenobi tv show you know these, you know what we're seeing from him now will maybe answer some questions. Oh, come on, man, when, when you watch the kenobi tv show again, louis, giving the thumbs down, I know you don't like it, but when, when you watch it again for a second time, you're gonna like it, I promise you, especially now, after seeing all this with kenobi I'm, you're gonna see it in a whole different light. I promise you you might not give it a thumbs up, but you'll get a sideways thumb. It won't be a thumbs down, it'll be a sideways thumb, for sure.
Speaker 3:I don't know. By the way, Kiati Mundi has four wives there you go, oh I was looking it up too.
Speaker 1:Four wives. And how many kids that motherfucker you know he's poking Seven. Four wives. And how many kids that motherfucker you know he's poking seven daughters.
Speaker 4:Seven daughters, there you go um how many wives four.
Speaker 1:That's why I spend so much time at the fucking jedi temple. I wouldn't go home either with four wives.
Speaker 2:I can barely handle one wife well, see, and that's that's some bull, I mean, that's bullshit. He can do it. So that means you can train everyone else to do it as well and teach them how it is separate from the force or whatever.
Speaker 4:So that's bullshit. Was there a reason that he was allowed wives? Was it because of his race or was it because of religion? And the only reason that I say that is because, if it's a race thing, it could be that only that race is capable of something that other species can't.
Speaker 3:I will quote off of Wikipedia. Due to the low Serean birth rate, he was allowed by the other Jedi to follow the Serean custom of polygamous marriage. There you go.
Speaker 2:Lame. Right, it is lame, that's bullshit.
Speaker 4:So basically he's allowed to be a more.
Speaker 2:And he's a good be a more.
Speaker 4:That's that's, and he's a good jedi correct yeah, yeah, he's yeah he's one of the best jedi, I think oh well, I wonder why?
Speaker 2:because he's probably free to do what he needs to do at home, so he's not oppressed sexually, hello the fuck, why is it always got to be sexual with you?
Speaker 1:Everything's about sex with you all the time. Sex, sex, sex.
Speaker 2:I don't want to bring in religion, but there is a lot of them that are not allowed to get married and do other things where they're not supposed to be doing, because, guess what, that's part of our species as well.
Speaker 1:And that's what happened with Anakin. He had a secret marriage and killed a bunch of kids.
Speaker 3:Well, that's spoiler alert, all right.
Speaker 4:Moving on.
Speaker 3:Moving on. Moving on.
Speaker 1:Quick question. Quick question about this. So again, so do we think that Palpatine we we know that manipulative? We know that. But in this particular case, as we're going along with these episodes and we, you know the, there was the whole the the the underlying aspect of these episodes were about getting the senate to vote down the creation of more clone troopers. Um, that got, that got, you know, vetoed, that got shot down.
Speaker 1:But do we think that palpatine is manipulating every single aspect in the of the senate? Or is he just allowing the already pre-existing corruption to just kind of run its course like we see, yeah, like we see him using the jedi's weaknesses against them? He doesn't even have to interfere that much. He just has to push their buttons and trigger them in order to move in the direction he wants them to, but he doesn't have to really push them because he's using their weaknesses against him. So is he doing the same thing with the senate like he's? He's just allowing the corruption to do its thing, or do we think that he's got his fingers in every single pot?
Speaker 4:I mean, he probably has his fingers in every single pot, but I think that in certain situations he is probably letting things unfold, naturally, but I think it's because he had already put the pieces in place for those things. You know what I mean like for that corruption to grow. Okay, so he might have planted the seed, but he's just kind of standing back now and just watching the plant explode right. And you do see throughout uh, at least the live action, I'm sure, throughout the clone wars as well, as we keep watching um, you see, he does have to make changes. There are things that he didn't expect to happen. You know, he obviously wasn't expecting luke right like that. That came out of nowhere, but you saw how quickly he adjusted to it. His plan changed, but it was also very quick.
Speaker 2:Well like you said, tom, he's a master chess player, so even if there's a mistake, he circumvents it and knows how to get around it correctly. To to come back to him, like to make it in his you know how he wants it like I don't even think that he's like.
Speaker 1:You know, in chess, you know you talk about, you know I want to be like x amount of moves ahead of you. I want to be 10, 10 moves ahead. Yeah, palpatine is like 10 games ahead like he really is he doesn't even operate on the move level. He's operating like. He's like one of those chess masters that can play like 30 games of chess against 30 opponents at one time at the same time, yeah right, he is that guy um. I think he uses the force to.
Speaker 2:You know, see into the future at least a little bit of it. He it might. Some of it might be clouded, like Yoda, because that's just the way it is. You can't see all of it, but he does see snippets and then he realizes like, oh well, I kind of feel like I should move in this direction to get these people on my side, or whatever the hell he's doing. And also, how often is he using mind, mind, yeah, you know where you control them other people's minds, you know I, I was thinking about that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually the other day I was thinking about that. You bring up a very good point.
Speaker 2:Well, that guy next to him like every time he kept looking at him. Yeah, all of a sudden the guy would say, you know some fucked up shit. But poppleting was like looking at him and I'm thinking I think he's fucking manipulating this motherfucker. That's what I think he's just like.
Speaker 1:He's like jd vance, that's all I mean. He's just another jd man, anyway we're not bringing up a little no real shit, no real shit. My bad, my bad, um I, but I wonder. I wonder if he's, if he is using the force to manipulate my question is Of course he is.
Speaker 2:Well hold on Hear me out.
Speaker 1:Yes, but what I'm wondering is if he did that, would the Jedi sense it? No, Because he's. But I mean, when you use a Force ability, it sends ripples out. I mean, that's just he can mask his presence. But if he uses the dark side, would the jedi be able to sense it? I wonder. You don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. No, no, no, I don't. I really don't, because he uses it every time he's in their presence to mask himself. He has to use it, so he's using it all the time. I think that's where the corruption comes in, because you know what you're like. You know it's like drinking If you do it all the fucking time basically, he's like the Hulk.
Speaker 1:He's like you know, want to know, you know my secret I'm always, it's always I, the hulk he's like you know, want to know, you know, yes, my secret, I'm always.
Speaker 4:My secret is always, I'm always angry, right.
Speaker 2:So he's always using the force. All right, he's always using it because he has to build that shield around constantly agreed 100.
Speaker 1:I just do. I wonder I'm because he's always on that. He's always. You know, it's like um, like wanda in in wandavision she was. I mean, she had to use all her. She was using all her power all the time to create that artificial world and every now and then, you know, she would like lose a little bit of control and she would slip, and you know, you know, weird shit would just happen. But so palpatine has to do that, because it has to be incredibly difficult to mask yourself in front of all these jedi masters like well, just the slipping.
Speaker 2:Is them finding the actual footage of this shit? Um, that was a slip up, that was. He should have known where that footage came from already and I know he was kicking himself in the ass for it because his face was like oh shit oh yeah screen. I mean, she fucking had that she did go.
Speaker 1:She did put it on the big screen, didn't she?
Speaker 2:she wasn't fucking pam, it wasn't fucking around and you could see popatine's face like fuck, he lost it for a minute.
Speaker 1:Someone died over that. Someone died.
Speaker 4:Someone died. He can't predict everything, but he can adjust really quickly. It doesn't take him long to regain his footing and get back to what he needs to do.
Speaker 1:You're absolutely right. And speaking of the force and force usage, sherry had brought this up too. When we see bale and padme in that container yard, padme's got a little bit of force because she was. She was dodging laser blasts, she was anticipating things that I feel like otherwise a regular, normal person would not have been able to anticipate. So I feel like she's got a little bit of force in her and maybe that's, maybe that's from anakin, I don't know. Maybe she has sexually transmitted force, she's got STF. I don't know, maybe it's sexually transmitted force If they're having enough.
Speaker 1:I've said dumber shit.
Speaker 4:I mean, I'm just saying you might be on to something.
Speaker 1:He may be filling her full of midichlorians as often as possible. I don't know how or or or it's the babies. Oh, you think she might already be preggers at this point no, it's too early, it's too early. It's too early.
Speaker 4:It's years too early.
Speaker 1:Clone Wars go on for like three years. It's still too early, she's not human per se.
Speaker 3:We don't know what their gestation period looks like.
Speaker 2:I would think the same thing, Tony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're humanoid, but they're not from Earth. So they could have a fucking two-year-long gestation period, who knows? Or, like an elephant, three years. That's very true. We don't know. We don't know. That's an interesting one. We need to find out.
Speaker 4:I mean technically, like I don't know If it's Anakin's DNA, right I mean, and it's floating around in her.
Speaker 1:Right, how does supercharged? What does supercharged mean? Guys, calm down. Well, now I'm curious Because, seriously, if you've got there's no doubt about it Anakin is supercharged with midichlorians, right? He's got a higher midichlorian count than Yoda, yes, so if he is depositing those midichlorians, that's not a deposit.
Speaker 2:It doesn't stay there.
Speaker 1:But would it not be still absorbed through the walls and the membranes?
Speaker 4:I mean it has to stay in there for some amount of time. If he's doing it on the daily, he's not, and we yeah.
Speaker 3:I really hate to make this comparison because it's one of the most disturbing fucking stories in Marvel history, but are you guys familiar with how Spider-Man killed Mary Jane? No so there is a storyline in which Mary Jane dies and Spider-Man visits her grave and basically says I gave her cancer because of all the radioactive activity every time that they had sex.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's silly Interesting. I mean it's funny.
Speaker 1:So he had radioactive sperm, essentially yeah, so he had radioactive sperm essentially Well you know what, though?
Speaker 2:I guess that could be true, because during chemo I was told the same thing. There you go.
Speaker 4:Okay, what like? You shouldn't do that because you pass radiation to each other.
Speaker 2:Yes Me, I would pass radiation.
Speaker 4:Right, exactly, you're just proving the point. Yep, see, I would pass radiation. Right, exactly, you're just proving the point. See, that's what it is. It is Anakin's sperm that is causing Padme to be able to use the Force.
Speaker 2:There you go, we got it.
Speaker 1:You had a nuclear hooch? Yeah, nuclear coochie Nucci, we'll call it Nucci. Yeah, I mean, she even said use cocks. Yeah, nuclear coochie Nucci, we'll call it Nucci.
Speaker 2:Can we call it Nucci? Yeah, I mean, she even said use cops, yeah.
Speaker 1:So there you go. Nucci. Nuclear coochie, yeah, but so yeah, anakin is giving her the force. He's giving her the force, but he's giving her some force abilities. She's starting to develop force abilities because of his super midichlorian charged ejaculate. All right, moving on, um. Also a very cool part in in this episode bail or gone or not. This episode, but in the next one, um, cat and mouse with good old Admiral Trench, that motherfucker. But in that episode Bale sends a message to Kenobi and he says help us, general Kenobi, you're our only hope. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:That was so sweet, that was very, that was nice, that was very nice. And then, like 20 years later, his adopted daughter, leia, says the same thing to that guy. I love Obi-Wan's story. Like if you just watch it from beginning to end, it's just so cool. And those are the dots that we're connecting now and that's what. Oh, my God, with the thumbs down, louis. Everyone remember this. Everyone remember this. Louis does not like the Kenobi TV series.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, and right now it doesn't matter, because we're going to get into it, but I promise you, okay that when we do get to it and you watch it again, having watched all of this, I'm telling you you're gonna, you're gonna think differently. You're gonna think differently. I promise you, and if you don't, I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars really really okay but I'm so confident that you're gonna think but, but, but see this motherfucker be like. No, I still hate it.
Speaker 4:Give me a thousand oh no, I wouldn't do that a dark room somewhere, right, sherry, would sherry be like?
Speaker 1:oh no, I hate this, motherfucker, give me my money, but then she's over there. This is the best shit ever, okay? So, cat and mouse very cool episode, just a lot of fun. Um, nothing, uh nothing.
Speaker 1:Uh, really crazy about this one, except that it is technically the very first episode, chronologically, of the clone wars animated series. So this episode actually, um, comes before the events of the clone wars movie. So this is like the so before, like, as as we see, anakin and obi-wan on christophsis, you know, ahsoka's not there yet, so she, they're gonna now, they're on the planet, they're gonna be fighting the battles. And that's why, like, if you notice, like anakin, you know, and you, lauren was like well, I, you know, I guess we're gonna end up being a great team, you know, but it's like, well, why would he say that they, you know, up to this point, they've already served together for like a year and a half. But no, it's, this is like again dave doing what dave does.
Speaker 1:So, um, there were some really cool, you know, world war ii submarine vibes with the stealth ship. That was pretty cool, that was really cool. I really like that, um, and the stealth ship pilots. I'm fucking the the dopest clone trooper helmets ever. I I love their whole costume. Their whole uniform is just so badass. The crew members I don't know, they have the weird Leia Bun helmets and they're okay, but it was man, that pilot. That pilot was just dope. No wall of remembrance for any of these episodes, so that's good.
Speaker 3:Thankfully, because they made a whole point of naming the new guy and I was like, oh fuck, don't give him.
Speaker 2:Our name I haven't written down. I was like, is the rookie gonna die?
Speaker 1:welcome aboard box. You'll be sitting across from me so I can keep an eye on you. It's like, oh god, a fucking control panel's gonna blow. They're all four sparks RIP. But no, he made it. He made it to the very end. So there you go. So here's my. I don't know if there's a whole lot to really talk about with this episode, unless you guys have some standout moments, anything that really stood out to you.
Speaker 2:Well, just Anakin's flying abilities and his, I mean, they're excellent.
Speaker 1:I, I can't and the clone troopers were just like. Well you know what, when you're with, when you're with general skywalker, long enough you'll realize he's always on the offensive well, because he was like I thought this was a diplomat.
Speaker 2:What is it? A mercy?
Speaker 1:mission, a mercy mission, a supply mission.
Speaker 1:He's like yeah no, not when General Skywalker's flying. I was like alright, so it was a fun episode. I really liked it. It was a lot of fun. My problem and please I'm going to pose this question to the group it was said that the Separatists had impenetrable defenses. It was, it was just just a straight line of ships. I I, I don't understand this. One of my biggest gripes about star wars are the space battles. It's like we'll never get through that blockade. Well, you could go above it or below it. You go around the back side of the planet and come in that way. I mean, it's like you're, you're operating in three dimensions of space sherry you'd brought up about. You know, it's like fleet battles of ships on the water you're right, listen, the big battleships do not have good maneuverability.
Speaker 2:So if you're already in that path because you're going that way, it is a little hard to turn around. But they can just go down.
Speaker 3:But there are cheeks in there, oh my God, the thing is you don't have engines facing that direction to be able to post yourself that way. You don't know what they have.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, they don't show it what they show are engines going straight? You don't know their life. They've got maneuvering thrusters. They can turn, they can go left and right, they can lift lazily to the left and the right, but why don't they ever go up and down?
Speaker 2:Because then you wouldn't have a movie. You're right, I know.
Speaker 3:You've got to have the fight scene. This is a common thing. They do the same thing in Star Trek and all the other shows. In theory, there's no correct up or down either, so there's no reason why every time the ships are all facing the same vertical direction.
Speaker 2:There's no reason why a ship shouldn't be coming in on an angle like this. I don't know, In Star Trek they do go upside down and stuff they.
Speaker 3:I have seen that I mean they maneuver upside down, but anytime they're facing off, they're facing off face to face. It's not like you don't see right but they don't see the enterprise here and the klingon warbird here.
Speaker 1:Well, no, no, that's just the orientation, that's the orientation of the ship, but they don't just like go straight at each other. When we see like the enterprise and a klingon battle cruiser fight, they're almost dog fighting, I mean, they're like they're doing some maneuvers and they're big.
Speaker 1:Those are big, large class ships, so they're they're fucking doing some maneuvers, like if you watch, like there's, there's some really cool battle scenes during the last few seasons of Deep Space Nine. There's the battle of Wolf 359 against the Borg and there is no just straight wall of boats.
Speaker 2:No, they're upside down. That's a different genre, I know I agree with that.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying the orientation thing is another thing that shouldn't be a factor yet there always is.
Speaker 1:You know, when we see an orientation correction I think that was in, was it the Phantom Menace? It was when they're coming into Coruscant. When they come in, they're kind of like upside down and then they do rotate the. The ship, there it's. It's the big nubian ship, the big chrome ship.
Speaker 4:So when they're. That's it. That's the opening scene of um it's not phantom menace uh attack of the attack of the clones, yeah, so that's.
Speaker 1:And then they all turn to orient themselves to the planet. I think that's the only time we ever see that, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, maybe it's, maybe it's in an episode buried somewhere, but as far as like the films, I don't think we've ever seen an orientation change like that before but but for the most part this episode was fine. I mean, it was fun it was fun, animal trench, super cool um, but it.
Speaker 2:He was quite weird. I was like damn dude. But again Palpatine using some lackey to do his fucking job and guess what? Now he's dead. Well, he's, Come on it, hit the bridge. I mean, I know he's a spider, but Jesus.
Speaker 1:And he took it. He just closed his eyes. He was like you know what I fucked up.
Speaker 4:I'm like I know he's a spider, but Jesus, and he took it.
Speaker 1:He just closed his eyes.
Speaker 4:He was like you know what I?
Speaker 1:fucked up, I'm going to eat his missiles.
Speaker 3:I fucked up. That was the recognition look of ah, don't fuck.
Speaker 1:What do you do? At that point it's just like oh fuck.
Speaker 2:No, I thought it was a good episode. It showed Anakin again in his glory because he is smart, he is so smart, he is so smart. He's a shithead, but he is smart. And obi, just all right, anakin. I mean, he did listen to obi-wan I guess, for a minute, I guess okay. But then when he figured out they were bombing the, he oh, yeah, yeah he did pick himself over, of course, them bombing.
Speaker 2:You know innocent people. So right, that's when I like anakin he's. He's picking the good side, of course it's just unfortunately he does. Sometimes he'll do the bad things for for the right reasons well, sometimes you have to do bad things for the good, and we know this in life.
Speaker 4:But the Jedi aren't supposed to.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing. If they were taught properly, they could do it and be balanced.
Speaker 1:And I think that's why Obi-Wan is such a great character, because he is such a good counterpoint to Anakin, because both of them as we've seen now with with Obi-Wan, and why I love these episodes particularly we're seeing the capacity for love that Obi-Wan has in his heart. Oh yeah, you know he's so, he's so into the Jedi philosophy that you think that well, he, you know he doesn't believe in attachment. He, he, you know he doesn't believe in attachment. He doesn't. You know he cares and he loves everyone. But when we're seeing him actually in love, when he said those words had you said the word, I would have left the Jedi Order In that moment. We now see that he has the same capacity for love that Anakin has, but unfortunately for Anakin, he allows that love to consume him and pull him in different directions. If anything, that love that Obi-Wan has, it really grounds him and it keeps him focused.
Speaker 2:If Palpatine wasn't in the picture, obviously it wouldn't be Star Wars, but I think Anakin would have been able to balance it out. I think he would have helped balance the Jedi that you can have love, you can have a spouse, you can have children and still be a great master Jedi.
Speaker 4:So if he didn't have that evil pulling him, yeah, cause that's what happened.
Speaker 2:He's like oh your mom. I mean you remember he was like oh your poor mother. What the fuck dude, why'd you even bring that up?
Speaker 1:But Yoda, yoda and Mace, they play a big part, I think, if you're getting rid of people you got, if if we want to see the Scooby-Doo ending for Anakin um, he's just gotta go. Yeah, it's gotta be mace and Yoda and Palpatine. All three of them need to go, because mace I don't think mace, because mace knows how to use.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, it's not. It's. It's mace's complete and total dedication to the jedi philosophy. Like he's, he is, like we saw, remember, like we saw in uh tales of the jedi. He is 100 by the book, mace is by the book I get what you're saying yeah, so it's he has. There is no latitude for mace windu you know who should lead?
Speaker 2:it is the dude with the four fucking wives hello ki-edi mundi obi-wan, kenobi, anakin skywalker and ahsoka tano.
Speaker 1:There's your jedi order, there's a jedi count um.
Speaker 2:He lived qui-gon yeah, that's what I'm saying. There was no, they would have lived. So qui-gon would teach them living force, how you can love and do what I mean.
Speaker 1:Had Qui-Gon, had Qui-Gon lived, we wouldn't have. There would be no Darth Vader. No, I know. No, I don't, I don't know, maybe I don't know. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2:Had, qui-gon would have been able to feel it Because of the living force, because he was using tapping into a different side of the, the correct side.
Speaker 3:Sure the balanced side. This is why it was Duel of the Fates when Qui-Gon lost. That was it.
Speaker 2:All the dominoes were set.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, Louis. What do you think?
Speaker 4:I agree that first of all, I like that Duel of Fates thing. That's actually a really good comparison. Would there still be a Vader if Qui-Gon hadn't died?
Speaker 1:Like Palpatine is still there, everybody else is still there.
Speaker 4:It's hard to know, because so the thing was up until Qui-Gon had died. There wasn't. Palpatine didn't have as much influence in the Senate yet right so the likelihood that Qui-Gon and Palpatine had even really interacted up until that point is low.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:I get it. So could Qui-Gon have seen through Palpatine's shroud? I don't think so, because Yoda couldn't see through it. And I think of Yoda as like if Yoda didn't sense it, everybody else was fucked.
Speaker 1:He's the bar Right.
Speaker 4:Right. So I don't know that he would have been able to, but maybe he would have been able to keep a closer eye on Anakin, because we have to remember too that, like one of the things that influenced Anakin to become Vader was his training from Obii-wan. Um, he felt some kind of way towards obi-wan, you know, like in in episode two he says you know, it's all obi-wan's fault, he's holding me back. Yeah, like there was. There was some resentment because obi-wan was very by the book, right, like he wanted everything to be by the book.
Speaker 1:Qui-Gon wasn't that way. The council was pushing Obi-Wan to be that way though. Right, right, but Qui-Gon would not be that way.
Speaker 4:He just straight up would refuse to be that way.
Speaker 1:I think Qui-Gon.
Speaker 4:He was so had he been the one that trained Anakin, you know.
Speaker 3:The other fact that we have to consider here is if Qui-Gon had survived. Do we know if Dooku finally transitions because Qui-Gon's death was a large part of Dooku's switching, like he was already on that path. But if Qui-Gon had survived that, I don't know he might survived. That I don't know.
Speaker 4:He might not have.
Speaker 1:I don't know that's a good one that's a great question, because Qui-Gon's Qui-Gon's death hit Dooku hard. I mean, like we saw in Tales of the Jedi, that that hit Dooku pretty hard and I think that was. I think Qui-Gon's death was the tipping point for Dooku, right?
Speaker 2:oh yeah it happened that day, and I think that was I think Qui-Gon's death was the tipping point for Dooku, right?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it happened that day. Yeah, it did yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's when he killed Yaddle, right? Yeah, he killed Yaddle. What the day after Qui-Gon died?
Speaker 1:Day after, yeah, yeah, not long after, within 24 hours of Dooku learning of qui-gon's death yes um, that was so sad.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that was very sad. I yeah, that was, that was rough, but uh, all right, yeah. So a lot of, a lot of things, and I do I wonder if palpatine would have just eventually had qui-gon killed. I think qui-gon would have died in eventually as palpatine was continuing to ascend. Um, I do agree with you that that um qui-gon would have held a much tighter reign on anakin, so maybe he wouldn't have gotten so many private one-on-ones with palpatine, because he was forever hanging out in palpy's office, so you know, and so palpatine was able to, you know, manipulate him a little bit more. Qui-gon wouldn't have allowed that. But I think Palpatine would have seen Qui-Gon as a roadblock.
Speaker 4:A threat yeah.
Speaker 2:And he would have had. He would have had.
Speaker 1:Qui-Gon would have gone out eventually anyway. So I mean that's what happened anyway. But yeah, that's what happened anyway. But I don't know. All right, all. So I mean that's what happened anyway, but yeah, that's what happened anyway. But yeah, I don't know. All right, all right, so that's it. We're gonna wrap it up. This was good shit, I like. I like the discussions, guys, I like the discussions. All right, so homework for next week watch episode seriously. Seriously. You know it's a podcast, right, you know it's a podcast. We're you're pulling out the vibe right now. I feel like you need to be somewhere else when we do the podcast, somewhere with fewer like, because you're just surrounded by paints and miniatures and sometimes very distracting, down here it is and so, like I have to ask you so what do you think, daddy louie?
Speaker 1:um, uh, I just agree with everything. Everything you guys say, I agree, yes. And then you just get back to painting. Whatever it is, you're painting.
Speaker 2:It all sounds great.
Speaker 1:Sure, this is good stuff everybody.
Speaker 4:You should ask me first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to have to. Next time we're going to have to go because, if I ask you anything else. So, daddy Lou, what do you think about this? Yep, I agree, it's great. Next question and that's it. Hey, I next question and that's it.
Speaker 4:Hey, I had some insights today, and I didn't even watch the episodes.
Speaker 1:I know Sherry wanted to say that Sherry wanted to kick you off the episode this week. That's a fucking lie. I didn't say a word. He didn't watch it.
Speaker 2:He didn't get to be on the show, sherry would not say that. I would, but to your face. So that's bullshit. Oh, you know me, louis, would I say it to you? I would, but to your face. So that's bullshit. Oh, ouch you know, me.
Speaker 4:Louie, would I say it to you? Yeah, you would.
Speaker 1:Right, so no, I did not say that oh, wait a minute, we're almost done, aren't we Listen? I can't pick up your daughter 17, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't think we finished the daughter 17, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think we finished the episode 17, 18, 19.
Speaker 4:Are we still?
Speaker 3:recording there's 22. So in theory we could do three for next week and three for the following week and be done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 4:Or we could do six and take a week off. No no.
Speaker 1:No, don't think.
Speaker 4:All right, well, well, let's do three, all right you 17 through 19 next week yeah all right, no arcs or anything that we're gonna like.
Speaker 1:F up is there I think there might be one, but uh, it's fine, we'll be okay, all right. So episode 17, 18 and 19 for next week is your homework. And again, think about, uh, how palpatine could be responsible for the events in this episode. Let's look at you, know what would, uh how is palpatine involved be responsible for the events in this episode? Let's look at you, know what would, uh, how is Palpatine involved? Just as a little extra little fun side piece challenge for that. So, let's, let's do that. So, and of course, uh, listen to back episodes. If you haven't, and if, uh, whether you love us or hate us, tell your friends, tell your enemies to listen. You can find us on any podcasting platform, because obviously you're here now listening to us, or on youtube, which you're not listening to us on youtube because I haven't posted any episodes on youtube yet.
Speaker 4:So I I need to, unless this is really far in the future, in which case this is really far in the future, right?
Speaker 1:if you're listening to this in 2027, uh, welcome to youtube finally, or whatever platform happens to be it probably won't be called YouTube anymore, because Elon Musk will or whatever name it six weeks, right, six weeks. Whatever our alien overlords decide to call it yeah, in a few weeks they'll be here, they're going to be here, they're coming, they're on their way. I just want to let everyone know that when our alien overlords do get here, I will be in full support of them and I will act against the human race. So I will completely.
Speaker 2:So hard.
Speaker 1:So hard. I apologize in advance, but I regret nothing. So I'm going to ask for an island. That's all I want, and I'll give them all of the secrets.
Speaker 2:Pretty much, yeah. So praise, praise be to. That's all I want, and I'll give them all of the secrets pretty much yeah.
Speaker 1:So praise be to Oopla, oopla, our alien overhorns Oopla.
Speaker 1:I don't know alright time for that obligatory pimpage. Check us out on all social media. At the SWS show, I actually posted some things on social media, believe it or not. Uh, and be sure to subscribe to the podcast and our YouTube channel If you'd like some merch. We do have some brand new merch out. Head on over to circle of nerdscom. Slash merch T to the only is wearing his brand new star Wars safe space hoodie, which looks fabulous.
Speaker 1:I purchased the. Uh, the Letterman jacket. If you are interested and if you get to it before I get to pull it off the shop, don't buy it, it's trash, so get some T-shirts. Tony said the hoodie is nice. Don't buy the Letterman jacket because the printing on there is complete garbage. So I'll be pulling it off the shop. I don't want any of our listeners to uh to uh get get suckered into some nasty gear. Um, and that's it. And I'm just now looking at the private chat. Uh, ratings, I forgot about tony. So tony asked if we're abandoning the rating system. I forgot about it. Um, I don't know. Do we need it? I mean, I don't know. I. Do we need it? I mean, I don't know. I thought we did fine without it. What do you guys think. Do you like the rating?
Speaker 4:It doesn't matter to me. I mean, I think rating, I don't know this was good. I felt like this was good, yeah, because we were not just discussing.
Speaker 3:I was just asking the question, that's all.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, I think, rather than just straight up talking about the episodes, like contained within the episodes, just seeing how dig into it a little bit more, right, right, the overarching themes and how each episode evolves as the seasons go on. You see, the it's more about the growth of the individual characters that we know and love, and right. Less about the actual actions of right.
Speaker 1:Cause we don't need to to review every episode. I don't know you watch it. You come up with your own, you like or you don't. I mean, come up with your own, your own review of it, but let's get to those underlying things I think and talk about those anyway.
Speaker 2:So lying things I think and talk about those anyway.
Speaker 1:So all right, but we're done talking this week. So thank you all for tuning in. We do appreciate you listening to us. If you've made it this far, it's like an hour in um. So thank you very, very much. You could have been doing anything else right now literally anything else, um, but we do appreciate you. So if no one has anything else, anybody got anything else? Louis, you got any painting coming up anywhere where people can watch it? Nope, nothing nothing.
Speaker 4:I got like two weeks left, so I'll paint it next week.
Speaker 1:Man, and in a couple of weeks we're going to be in Bostween. Yep, Hang it out In your lair.
Speaker 4:Somebody will be right there and somebody will be over there.
Speaker 1:We're not going to do it up on the couch in the living room.
Speaker 4:I guess you brought that up to the senate and then it was vetoed. No, I, I thought we were gonna do just the, the watch, the watching upstairs. Are we gonna do the recording upstairs too?
Speaker 1:I don't know I was thinking about we could record our reactions as we're watching the episodes right, but then when we do the actual show, yeah, we'll be downstairs right right no, I'm bringing cameras and stuff where I I thought we'd set up at the game table oh, we can do that too yeah, I got.
Speaker 1:I got cameras, mics, I got cords and cables. All right, I have to go. Yes, yes, we have. Yeah, all right, so that's it, we're all done here. Star warriors, thank you so much again for joining us and remember, as always, if no one does anything nice for you, do something nice to yourself, and we're going to see y'all next week. Bye.
Speaker 3:Outro Music.
