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99 Problems But a Sith Ain't one: Clone Wars Season 3: Ep1-4
This week we guide you through the complexities of clone individuality, examining heartfelt character interactions and the deep camaraderie that blossoms amidst the epic battles of The Clone Wars Season 3.
Join us as we unravel the intricate dance of emotions in the galaxy far, far away, juxtaposing the Jedi's stoic detachment against the Sith's passionate embrace of power. We highlight the inner struggles of characters like Anakin Skywalker and the allure of Asajj Ventress's dark charm. Our conversation takes a playful turn as we entertain whimsical theories about Jar Jar Binks' possible dark side connections and his life as a post-war street performer.
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This week we've got 99 problems and a Sith ain't one. 99 problems. Did you see what I did there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got it 99 problems.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the Clone Wars Season 3, episodes 1 through 4 this week on your Star Wars Safe Space Stickaround space, stick around. Everyone's rocking out, bopping, rocking and bopping, rocking and bopping, rocking and bopping, rocking and bopping. Howdy Star Warriors. Welcome to Star Wars Safe Space, your non-toxic, low-sodium Star Wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that the original Star Wars film was going to be called the Adventures of Luke Starkiller. Yep, that's kind of cool. Of course we do get Starkiller later on, but that's pretty cool. So, whether you're a hardcore star Wars fan or just a little Swarzy curious, this is your star Wars safe space and we are the circle of nerds. We do absolutely love star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So let's meet this great and wonderful crew that we have here, shall we?
Speaker 1:From my left, your right, star stage and screen. It is the sensational Sherry. I have a button there. We go, awesome, awesome answer hurdle her left is your right to her right side also. Also my left, your left, in this direction from parts unknown. It's tea to the oni. Welcome back to the galaxy, everybody. It's interesting, like from here. You're wearing the jedi robe. I know all of our listener can't see it, but now that we're appearing on youtube, people can actually see us. Uh, you've got like earbud in or something. It looks like a Padawan braid. Yeah, oh, cool. Is that what you're going for? A little bit, damn, all right, go ahead, go ahead. T to the Oni. It's working out All right and we are coming from Daddy's dungeon here in the Outer Rim territory of Bostween. Daddy Lou of boss tween daddy louis.
Speaker 2:Hello children. Why do you have a an open?
Speaker 1:diaper genie right here. What is? That's just a trash can. Oh, it looks like a. It looks like the diaper, the diaper dispenser.
Speaker 2:No, the diaper I know it's trash diaper genie, right, that's what that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1:All right, and I am, tommy d, you're slightly obnoxious uh, star wars nodal, although I don't know anything. That's why, uh, we've got t to the only here as our holocron, our our lore, master and keeper of the holocron. So, uh, we do thank you, and thank you for hosting us in your home.
Speaker 3:This is awesome I like how you know not to break the illusion but I like how none of us changed. Yeah, we were supposed to change.
Speaker 1:I brought like six t-shirts with me to change so it's fine. In between, it's fine. Yeah, you did. Yeah, tony changed.
Speaker 2:Yeah me, me too. I just like the sweater a lot.
Speaker 3:You know, no known or noticed you wouldn't have said anything.
Speaker 1:I was like oh yeah, we didn't we didn't change and you still aren't wearing any merch, but you could have changed. Alright, you're going to put the Vato. Vato's look was forever Alright, so what are we doing here? So we are on a mission to watch all of the Star Wars TV shows and films in somewhat chronological order. We're trying to watch it in chronological order, but, dave, you're not making it easy for us.
Speaker 2:Well, he's jumping around and making it fun, good Lord, and we find tidbits every time.
Speaker 1:Dave Filoni is not making it easy for us at all. So this time around this season for us, we are going to be discussing season three of the Clone Wars. Right, that's what we're doing. Yep, yeah, and uh that it actually takes place across bby 20, 21 and 22 well, actually it should be 22, 21 and 20 is where this takes place and, of course, bby means before the battle of yavin. The battle of yavin takes place in the, the very first star wars movie that came out in 1977. That is, uh, zero on the timeline, so year zero. So, uh, we are going to be discussing episodes one through four today, but before we do that, daddy louis, you got some news for us. Yes, okay, okay, I gotta get you some new, some new news, news, music. All right, um.
Speaker 3:so I was looking on um star wars news net as well as marvelcom actually because, there's some excitement surrounding early 2025 in the comic world.
Speaker 3:So Star Wars comic book fans I am a fan but I haven't read in a long time but there's some good stuff out right now.
Speaker 3:That has got, I guess, the community very excited. And one thing of note in 2025 is a thing called star wars, a new legacy, um, and it's going to be, uh, a little bit of, uh, a reunion of some characters that have been in some of the previous comic books that uh, like dr afra, who is, uh, yeah, dr afra is, uh, she's coming back in this, uh, in this a new legacy, and people are pretty excited about that. So she's been in comics for a while and the end of this year, um, will be the close-up. Into the beginning of next year will be the close-up of this comic called the battle for jakku and, um, pretty important in the timeline with Lando, while Leia is still alive, and it's cool to see some stuff from Lando that we haven't seen, right, because, because after Return of the Jedi, we don't see Lando again until what Rise of Skywalker yeah so this is a little bit into what's Lando been up to, yeah, so and how did he get there?
Speaker 3:like what's right how's he been hustling? What's he?
Speaker 1:been. What's he been doing?
Speaker 2:running his hustle well, there is a fun fact about him, I give I get here since we talked about it. Yeah, what is lando? Calrissian was supposed to be a clone after all the battles. It was a clone that was supposed to go off and become real lando's.
Speaker 1:So after, after the clone wars ended, this after order 66, lando was a clone trooper who just it was supposed to be that way. So like cut lequane, like he kind of like deserted, sort of yeah and left. Yeah, it was gonna be.
Speaker 2:I just found that a little bit ago, but that's cool, yeah. So when he said it, I was like, oh, I'll just bring it up now, all right. Well, yeah, so that's yeah. And left yeah, it was going to be. I just found that a little bit ago, that's cool, yeah. So when he said it, I was like, oh, I'll just bring it up now, all right, well, yeah. So that's cool. Little fun fact man. That would have been cool, very interesting Actually. I thought that would be really fun.
Speaker 1:It would have been fun and that would have been just more work for tamora warrenson, I mean, because yeah, that dude just stays working. Now, thanks to the clones.
Speaker 2:I mean they went a different direction, which is fine. I mean it's cool we love billy d.
Speaker 1:I forgot, I meant to bring our photo of billy d from our set, from our set.
Speaker 3:We have, we have our framed photo of billy d mother bitches, all right they just go upstairs and print a picture of billy d we couldn't frame and put it out here.
Speaker 1:We could do that Was that. It Was that your news.
Speaker 2:Was there more? It was pretty good.
Speaker 1:Did we interrupt or was there more? Okay, that's good shit.
Speaker 3:Lots of cool new comics coming in 2025 for Star Wars fans.
Speaker 1:Do you guys read? Are you guys heavy into the comics? Have you guys read a lot of the Star Wars comics?
Speaker 4:I've lot of the star wars comics. Like I've read a lot of the books but I don't think I've ever read. I don't read star wars comics. The comic book, I gotta say once or twice I don't read. In the store I've seen them. I've been like oh, let me, let me know, check this out. But I'm one of those like, when it comes to reading stuff, like I can't just jump in so like if it's not episode one of a series, okay, I'm not just picking up a random episode because I'm going to be like how did we get here?
Speaker 2:yeah, right, you think it's on kindle, one of the things that I'm excited about.
Speaker 4:You know, along all these new listings that they're talking about, um, there's one that starts in january, which is called the bad batch ghost agents, and that's a brand new episode, one coming in january all right, it's based on clone force 99 all right right. Now speaking of 99.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, speaking Very good segue. Speaking of bad batches, I'm trying. Oh, that was a great segue. So, starting with season three, episode one, clone Cadets, we get to meet 99. So this and ARC Troopers, that was a one-hour premiere when it first came out, um, back in uh, 2010. So it takes place 22 BBY, um, and it aired with the arc troopers and it had the one hour premiere, as I said, and it's a prequel to the first season episode, rookies. And if you guys remember, that's when they were on what is it? Rishi, the Rishi station, that, like asteroid listening outpost, they got attacked by the, the assassin droids that dressed up like clone troopers. Yes, we had, you know, space eel trooper, who was eaten. I think he was our first wall of remembrance so that poor bastard, heavy, gave his life.
Speaker 2:He did to save everyone and, but now we know why.
Speaker 1:Now we know why. Now we know why. So now in Clone Cadets we're meeting Heavy and Fives and Echo and Cut Up, and these are clones that are going to be with us for some time. Well, except for Heavy, except for Heavy, except for Heavy, rip, rest in peace, rest in peace. So yeah, chronologically, it follows the events of the pilot film and then is followed by Supply Lines, which is episode three of season three. So Dave said fuck the timeline, fuck linear time. I don't exist in linear time, dave exists.
Speaker 2:Maybe he didn't have the story yet, so he had to figure it out. Maybe his brain works like that, maybe he's got some ADHD and he's all over the place.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know what I think. That's as good of an explanation as any.
Speaker 3:Well, if you think about it, if you go to season one, episode one, even if you have stories prior to that that you want to tell like this the clone cadets, you couldn't have made that episode one, season one. You have to put an iconic character in there, like Yoda Shakti is not going to be the one that everybody's like oh, I know who that is, nobody knows who that is.
Speaker 1:Nobody knew Shakti. Oh, I know who that is, nobody knows who. That is Right. Nobody knew Shakti, right.
Speaker 3:So it makes sense if Dave wanted to tell a story that happened prior but couldn't because can't start there, right? That does make sense, and I felt like this episode was just introducing characters that hadn't been introduced yet but needed to be introduced so that he could do episode two, which we'll talk about in a minute right and we're getting we're getting to know these clone troopers like we're really getting to see an insight into their individuality.
Speaker 1:You know their, their likes and dislikes, their strengths and weaknesses. You know, we're like sure you had brought up something when I had mentioned, you know, clones. You know they're, they are humans. You know they they're not classified as humans, but it doesn't matter that they were all made out of the same batch of jango goo.
Speaker 2:Right, you know they are, each and every single one of them well, and the jedi, I mean, she was like they're still human beings, yeah, they're still individual beings. They're not she's, I think, didn't she say like they're not property even?
Speaker 1:yeah she said they're not, I mean even though they kind of are but right, and she doesn't want to dispose of them because they happen to be a bad batch.
Speaker 2:Right, but they weren't a bad batch that it was, just those individuals weren't coming together as a team, right, so that that just doesn't work all the time, like I was thinking. Like well, you're genetic, the common owens can make it where they're always going to work as a team.
Speaker 1:But I understand why they need the individuality so they can become, um, you know, supervisors and chiefs, like some are going to be captains, some are going to be art troopers commanders everyone be, you know and maybe and they didn't want mindless, they didn't, you know, they needed people that can think, because otherwise they just got droids right.
Speaker 3:That's why they didn't use droids right oh yeah because otherwise you could just fucking use droids for that, that in attack of the clones well, I mean, look at the droids, like, yeah, I could see that yeah droids are stupid.
Speaker 1:droids are stupid and they are easily manipulated and they can't think outside the box. Right, right.
Speaker 2:Like you see it right in your face a bomb. Oh, oh, there's a bomb. Hey guys, there's no like keep out.
Speaker 1:Watch out for clones.
Speaker 3:Oh, no clones, Just explosives.
Speaker 2:Explos, explosives, explosives so you know the first thing a human, or you know flesh, a thinking, a thinking being yeah, would have done like oh shit and would have dipped and ran right, but so I get it okay. I like the clones.
Speaker 1:I think they're I think they're great and I, I really I like seeing them like this. I like seeing them, you know, learning about each other, and like getting getting into each other's battle rhythms and developing and I'm also trying to find their place, not just in this war, but in this world, in the world yeah, yeah, like what is my place. Who am I? What am I?
Speaker 2:99 like why did they keep I'm not trying to be funny, but the caminoans? As soon as 99 came out it should have been zap you're done, because why am I keeping this?
Speaker 1:why did they keep 99?
Speaker 2:so there's a reason and I know it's part of the story, obviously, sure, I know that, but why would they keep him? Because he's? I mean, he was igor, straight up.
Speaker 1:Like you know our people listening he was igor, I'm guessing hunchback of notre dame I'm guessing that somewhere there was probably a jedi, yeah, who was like yeah, don't, don't recycle them, just, you know, put them, put them to just put them to work or yeah?
Speaker 2:and, and he was such a good mentor. He was so sweet, don't be so hard on yourselves, I mean and how hard was it for him to do that voice, because I mean, you had to change it d bradley baker is the man he had to change it for him.
Speaker 1:I mean he I wonder if, like in the studio, if he had like a little droopy look, I don't know but their trainer I didn't, I didn't like him.
Speaker 2:The master chief. The master chief, he was horrible brain. And how are you going to hit people? I don't care A clone or not, I mean. Granted, maybe it helped a little.
Speaker 1:I don't think it did. I think he was trying to get that. He was trying to get cut up to hit him so he could get him out.
Speaker 3:Get his ass out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you struck an officer, I got you Out, you go.
Speaker 4:Cut up was just like thank you, sir maya, have another. I mean, yeah, I like cut up, but then he was gonna leave.
Speaker 1:No, heavy was gonna leave, heavy, heavy was gonna, heavy was gonna peace out, but he didn't, thankfully. So so when we're looking, when we're looking at this, this particular episode, um, what are your thoughts on that, like on clone individuality?
Speaker 2:I already gave mine.
Speaker 1:You did, you did so, fellas. So is it more of an asset, more of a liability, or, you know, a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.
Speaker 4:I will say definitively it's an asset, because you know, the more eyes you have on something, the more unique ways that you can look at a scenario, the better you can handle it. And if they all think alike, they might as well be droids.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's fair, louis.
Speaker 3:Kind of, but I think a little bit of both, because I think, when you start bringing emotion into it which is really what we're talking about, right, as soon as you start bringing emotion into it, sometimes that emotion causes mistakes.
Speaker 1:And we saw that Right.
Speaker 3:They were fighting amongst themselves during the training and they ended up getting shot right, but like for example, when 99 oh, we're not there yet because we're not on the second episode okay, all right, so we'll we'll be there in a second okay why not now?
Speaker 4:right so let's go all right, so I mean.
Speaker 1:That wraps up the first episode. Pretty well, you know, and they, they do eventually learn, you know, shocked. He was a great mentor to them for that, more of a mentor than the bounty hunters or the, the mercenaries that were hired to do that. So, fucking dick brain, god, that guy was such a jerk. So that episode two, our troopers, it, it's the sequel to the first episode.
Speaker 1:Um, rookies, yes, the first season episode, rookies. So, immediately after all that shit happened on the, was it rishi, rishi, rishi anyway, at that listening outpost, yeah, then all this happens. Um, it doesn't immediately follow the episode, but chronologically it takes place between season three's seventh episode, assassin, and the fourth episode, sphere of influence. So, so, and this, of course, this was this was the attack on Camino, on their, on their home, on their home, and that surprised me seeing that. So I thought one thing that I thought was really cool was seeing how echoes and fives had the little tribute for heavy painted on their armor. I think fives had it on his pauldron and echo had it on, or is it the other way around? It was the other way around. So, yeah, echoives had it on his pauldron and Echo had it on, or is it?
Speaker 1:the other way around. It was the other way around. So, yeah, echo had it on his pauldron and Fives had it on his thigh. Armor, yeah, I thought that was really nice and again it shows how much they are attached, that sense of family and home. And then now we find out that I mean, you saw how Rex and Cody yeah, rex was. Rex was like boss, we're going home, come on, let's go, let's go, let's mount up. And they did, and they rode, they rode out, they rolled deep on this.
Speaker 3:So I liked how in how in this episode they they let the, the clones, be the focus of the episode. Right, the no one else really was was a focus in this episode except the clones, which I really liked yeah, they let rex and cody breathe here. You know they weren't. They weren't in the shadow of of anakin and obi-wan, they were the main characters.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's like that because, yeah, the, the jedi were more of a supporting role in this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they weren't in this very much.
Speaker 2:It's just making us love them more up until you know, until we have to mourn them, yeah. Well, not just that, yeah, Just the order.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when things change, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's what this is doing it's making us know that they're actual human beings until it flips until it flips and I think not on their yeah, and they didn't choose it, obviously, of course, but of course but I think that's why, that's why the clone wars, I think, is so good, because you know we do have that, that character progression and that character development and you do start getting attached. Oh yeah, I mean we got attached to 99 in like one episode, like basically I was almost crying and it's like, but you knew it was gonna happen because episode two yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 1:So in arc troopers. Yeah, this big battle happens um separatists again exploiting the arrogance of the Jedi and the Republic thinking nah, we're cool, we're good, everything is just fine and dandy. And then they had that brilliant way of sneaking everything in on them.
Speaker 1:So, now, there was also an interesting scene with um I think this was in the last episode, but I mean it goes towards this, this one as well when Shakti was talking to Lama Su about the clone troopers, and you know he was like you're too compassionate, you know, what are your thoughts on that? Like I mean, at what point do Jedi? I mean, was she too compassionate? I mean, because Jedi are always talking about keeping your emotions in check, you know, and you should be nice, and there should be a level of compassion, of course, for all beings in the galaxy. But is there a line?
Speaker 2:I mean, she did say they'd put him somewhere else if it didn't work, but she wasn't. She was still compassionate about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, put him in maintenance or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so she wasn't like, was still compassionate about it. Yeah, she, yeah, put him in maintenance or something. Yeah, so she wasn't like. I mean, I don't know, she still knew that if it didn't work out she was, they were gonna have to do something right.
Speaker 3:So I don't when it comes to jedi. I don't think that the jedi are. I don't think that the jedi don't love. I don don't think that the Jedi aren't compassionate. I don't think that the Jedi, you know, just suppress all emotions. I think that being a Jedi Is about controlling those emotions, whereas the Sith Is about harnessing the emotions For power. Theirs is about control, balance of those emotions, so you can have a level of compassion and still be a Jedi. It's just controlling that compassion so that it doesn't cause attachment, which then causes all the strife, All the fear, love all those.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So I think being a Jedi is more about controlling the emotions rather than just not having them all together, it's like a Vulcan, it's like a.
Speaker 1:Vulcan. It's like a Vulcan and we see what happens when Vulcans can't control their emotions. And we see what happens when compassion becomes overwhelming in Anakin. I mean, we see, that's the issue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he needs to learn to control his compassion. You can have it, you can, love you can, but he wasn't taught that either. So I think that's the biggest thing that I have with the jedi teach them how to love, how to be compassionate without letting your emotions turn you to the dark side.
Speaker 3:Just saying it's forbidden, isn't? You're not teaching them anything and that's like any religion, you're not teaching them that balance and that control, because you're basically just straight up saying no, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 1:Which just may have. It has you repressing.
Speaker 4:This is the emotional equivalent of abstinence as your only form of sex education.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go. That's a great point.
Speaker 3:Rather than educating with safe sex, they're just like no sex at all.
Speaker 1:Right, like how to be responsible, and and yeah, it's interesting because the sith teach you how to use your emotions. They want you to feel, but they want to overly do it. They want you to feel the you know the rage right again, it's just too extreme.
Speaker 1:Same coin different sides, but it's still, it's to the extreme. Yeah, and anakin should have been that balance and he wasn't, he wasn't, they pushed him, they pushed him too far. So great episode arc troopers, definitely worth a watch, I think. Um separatists, uh, dropping their ships, their ship parts, as debris, oh for the third episode for the attack.
Speaker 1:Oh no, in this, in this, yeah, oh, that was ingenious, that was brilliant. Just saying that was brilliant. I don't like them, but I mean, yeah, but that was, that was pretty cool. And ventress ventress I'm sorry, ventress is our friend. Ventress ventress, asajj ventress, she is just cold-blooded sexy mama. I mean she, she's something, she, she. And kissed that dude. She sauced commander colt and kissed him. And kissed him.
Speaker 4:He is going on the wall. Oh, he's on the wall. He's up there with 99 I mean this, is I mean this?
Speaker 1:is that was pretty, I mean, and he's an art trooper. Commander colt was a bad motherfucker, I mean. There's no doubt about it but force choked.
Speaker 4:The man threw him up against the wall and then threw him onto her blade. She forced, pulled him into her, yeah, and then, and then kissed him on the way and then kissed him before he died.
Speaker 1:Good night, sweet prince, kiss of death, kiss of death. And then I just love how she's like so flirty with Grievous too, and she's like oh, general.
Speaker 2:I know, and she grabbed him, she grabbed him she was like do you want a droid escort?
Speaker 1:And she was like oh, you don't have anything that I want. And I was like ah, you cold-blooded bitch, oh my God.
Speaker 2:She would crush Grievous. I think she would crush Grievous like a tin can. To be honest, she absolutely could. I don't know why she doesn't.
Speaker 4:to be honest, Because Dooku, yeah, dooku.
Speaker 2:He wasn't there.
Speaker 4:I'd have been like I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3:It's her. She wouldn't even that's his toy, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think if Grievous were to push her to the point where she has to defend herself. Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 2:I mean, you just take his little heart piece and just doinks yeah, and then it's a done deal.
Speaker 1:I wonder what's going on with his other parts.
Speaker 2:There is nothing, he doesn't have anything. He's got lungs and a heart. That's it.
Speaker 3:That's why she said you don't have anything. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2:He's got a cod piece. I mean he doesn't have it's. No, he was taken apart when the when his doctor droid was putting him together, he just pulled his legs off and put it back on you don't think he's got a little? No no he's gone.
Speaker 1:It's just like Anakin, oh, too soon anyway, yeah, anakin or Maul, we know Maul is oh yeah, that's unique for sure, yeah, I mean anakin might have like a little burnt cocktail. We know you think it's burnt off. He still had his pants on. It was he was good he's got a cod piece he's got a cod piece too, with a little door on it and everything that shit was cut off it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4:the jedi have as many just blood-borne enemies as they have Because you keep cutting people's junk off. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That broke me back. Yeah, I think it fell off.
Speaker 1:You know, I feel like that's why Maul is so mad at Obi-Wan, Because it's like yes, you cut off. You didn't just cut off my legs, you took my buddy. I mean you took. Oh, no, he didn't just cut off my legs. You, you took my buddy. I mean you took. No, he didn't do that. The fire did that. I'm talking about darth maul obi-wan cut that motherfucker in half.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah that was gone and that was it. Yeah, that was it all right. So, uh, next episode. Great, I think that was a great way to start the season off. I mean when they because they released that as- a one hour episode.
Speaker 1:So that was really cool that. That was good that they did that. Um, next episode, uh, supply lines is a prequel to the very first episode of the series, um ambush, that was the one with Yoda. Um, and we saw this and it was, uh, it was an okay episode. It was um, here I'll I, here I'll go there, we go. Okay, sherry's going to get wings. We ordered wings for a while. Okay, wingy, wingy, we're winging it. So that was, it was an okay episode. I mean, there was.
Speaker 3:I think it adds a lot of good context to the first episode. Yes, it's about where the my positivity over the episode.
Speaker 1:We did get to see some sacrifice. We did get to see some sacrifice in that. And again there's like there's all this bureaucracy, there's all this bureaucratic bullshit and because of that you know, you've got what jedi master d, is that what his name? D master d, yeah, um, and then captain keely, aka captain cutie both of them on the wall of remembrance this week.
Speaker 3:Um, sadly, unfortunately I like this little goatee like beard. Yeah right, he had a little beard and he was lined up.
Speaker 1:I mean, do you see his edges on his beard? He looked like he could be like a cute little R&B slinger or something like he was in a boy band, like a clone boy band.
Speaker 4:Got some good barbers up in Camino, right yeah.
Speaker 1:And we were talking about that a little bit when we were, when we were watching that. So actually, if you'd like to see our reactions to these episodes, head on over to patreoncom circle of nerds and we're going to be uploading all of our reaction videos so, as we watch it, you can watch it with us. But, um, yeah, we were. We were talking about, like what, what do you do, like as a clone trooper? You're just like chilling in the barracks. Everybody's like cutting each other up, getting them you and I were in the military.
Speaker 3:You remember I mean I don't know how it was for you, but I remember in in basic training and stuff. You know, some guys were good at shining boots, some guys were good at folding laundry some people were cutting hair, and so you know you'd hey, you'd cut my hair, I'll shine your boots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some people were cutting hair there you go Food's here.
Speaker 2:I had to pee it's fine. Oh, yes, it's here.
Speaker 1:Food's here, so should we take a break?
Speaker 2:No, we can. No, we only have one more episode to talk about. Let's finish the episode. Okay, it's fine.
Speaker 1:We're so unprofessional, but it's fun, okay. So sphere of influence, influence, um, lore master, I'm gonna need your help with this for sure, because I I know I'll mispronounce the names. Um. So this one sphere of influence, I feel was there more that we could talk about with um, with the ryloff episode, with supply lines, is there anything more? The unfortunate return of Jar Jar, yeah, Jar Jar, that's this last one.
Speaker 1:That's the last one. Yeah, that was the supply lines. Bail Organa. I mean Jar Jar Jar Jar hooked it up, though he did. This time he did. He didn't fuck up either. He didn't fuck up. We thought that all those dishes were going to go, and they didn't fuck up either he didn't fuck up.
Speaker 2:Like we thought that all those dishes were going to go.
Speaker 3:And they didn't go. How in the heck is this guy so good at juggling and stacking cups and plates Force, but he's using the dark side. He's destroying a ship.
Speaker 1:So this shows you you were banished because you were clumsy.
Speaker 2:This shows you that he is part of the dark side.
Speaker 1:He is in full control. He's in full control.
Speaker 2:He's in full control. He's an idiot on purpose. Yes, For no reason, Because some of the shit I'm like okay. Why did you do that?
Speaker 1:Darth Banks, darth Banks, I'm telling you, and we finally get to see it.
Speaker 2:But look how much self-control to hold all those fucking plates.
Speaker 1:Right, that's what I'm saying like.
Speaker 2:There's no way he had to use the force to do that and did he use the force to have him turn his head so he wouldn't see the ship on the other side?
Speaker 1:maybe, maybe, I think he's, I think he's the real puppet master. No, no, no, I don't think that. I think he's pulling palpatine strings no no, that's pushing it all right.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know, but he did a great job, I, I and I do think and lore master, maybe you can help out with this but I do think that jar, jar, after all of this, after the clone wars, I think he does eventually end up as being like a street performer, like he just falls on hard times and he becomes just he's just stacking plates and spinning dishes or whatever doing whatever it is he's got to do when did you hear that? I read that somewhere.
Speaker 2:Where In your mind's eye On the internet.
Speaker 3:Did you ever dream about it?
Speaker 1:No, I'm pretty sure I read that.
Speaker 2:I just read Jar Jar is a street performer. I don't think it said that.
Speaker 1:So I read lots of stuff about Star Wars and it comes in, and sometimes the stuff about Darth Brain it comes in, and sometimes a lot like the stuff about darth brain fiction. I don't, I don't think so, but like, like the stuff about darth brain, darth brain, darth bane, like it was a little bit mixed up, but I, you know I've got it, it's there, but it's just. You know, okay. So I think jar jar ends up becoming a street performer. I don't know if that's canon or not, but I don't even think that's real it wasn't a fever dream, I think.
Speaker 1:think it was real. No, I think it was very real. So so again, a Jedi, master D and captain, captain Keely, aka captain cutie, thoughts and prayers. Uh, I think that we should create a boy band and think about, like, who would be in that boy band, and I think. Captain Cutie would definitely be in that.
Speaker 2:Captain Cutie was. He was kind of looking pretty well. They all look alike, but they're all hot.
Speaker 1:Right, but him having his edges tight and that nice cut, oh yeah, all right, so anyway. So there's a lot of I'm sorry. I think we should put Rex in the boy band too. Rex is the lead singer of the boy band Duh, I mean With that blonde hair yeah and you got to have commander wolf in there too.
Speaker 1:He's the bad boy yeah, haven't we no yes, yes we did remember because he's he's um under plow, clune and right, so he was there. The first time we meet him he's just in his officer uniform and that's when they go out to rescue the, the um, the cadets out of the pods. Oh, oh, that's right I think that's when during that episode yeah and the next time we see him he's in his. He's got his full gear on, he's already missing an eye and he's already all fucked up, it's like. So what happened there?
Speaker 4:so maybe we'll find out about that for the record, y'all owe him an apology. He was absolutely correct, hey, jar jar was once again exiled from the Gungan community for his inadvertent role in the Empire's rise to power. By putting forward the motion to give Palpatine emergency powers, jar Jar accidentally started Palpatine's rise to ultimate power. Having lost any prospects for the future, jar Jar returned to Naboo and settled down in the capital city of Theed, where he became a street performer. Eventually, jar Jar encountered a young boy named Mappo and took him on as an apprentice, teaching Mappo how to become a performer, like the Gungan was.
Speaker 1:An apprentice. Jar Jar took an apprentice.
Speaker 4:That sounds a little sithy to me.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it sounds a little sithy.
Speaker 2:I'm still not saying sorry, that's dumb. Hey, don't hate the player Hate the game.
Speaker 1:all right, I didn't look, I told you in a book or something?
Speaker 4:where does that? Is it canon in star wars aftermath?
Speaker 1:oh, so that is canon. That is canon, by the way, a little bit of jar jar binks listed here as well.
Speaker 4:It is the novel the legends of luke skywalker reveals that some citizens of the New Republic believe that Jar Jar Binks and Darth Vader were the same person.
Speaker 2:That Jar Jar Binks and Darth Vader? No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:I don't know. You never see him in the same place at the same time. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Annie has been there when Jar Jar's there. It was in the beginning.
Speaker 1:But not Darth Vader. Darth Vader and Jar Jar have never occupied, but we know it's Anakin, do we?
Speaker 2:Do we though Really yes, at the end we do. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Just a little sus, a little sus, alright. So last episode for our batch that we're doing here Sphere of Influence. Chronologically, this takes place between seasons three, second episode, the arc trooper, and the eighth episode, evil plans. So so arc trooper, as we know, it does take place after the events of rookies, but not immediately after, because during all of that sphere of influence was happening. Dave Bruh.
Speaker 2:It's just to keep us on our toes.
Speaker 1:Yes, so this was another political episode that initially I went into it. Not, I wasn't like I was like, alright, this is going to be, but it got action packed quick. It did. You did think that I did so. Papa Paduki Padushi, what's his name? Papa noida, papa noida coming out with the twin blasters like a fucking boss. Now I had thought that he was based off of george lucas's character. Is that a fact? Are you able to see that? And research that lore master, look into that.
Speaker 2:So thoughts, thoughts on this episode he looks like george lucas.
Speaker 1:He looks like george lucas.
Speaker 2:I thought that that was no you're you're right, it was more political poodoo, but it needs to be done because I mean, that's the whole point of this whole thing really is all about.
Speaker 3:Star wars is always politics, it was nice to see the politicians um like doing some action yeah.
Speaker 1:He was John Wick in that shit up. He was getting down and I thought his son.
Speaker 2:At first I was like ugh, another whiner. He was kind of a whiny bitch, yeah, but he came through, he came through, he came through.
Speaker 1:So now, with this episode, we do again, it's more political stuff. We got to see Greedo, that was cool. We didn we. We do again it's more political stuff. We got to see grito, that was cool. We didn't know if it was grito at first or not, but then it's like turns out to be grito. And then papa paduki, he's got his the dna scanner app on his phone, apparently, and he was able to the same app they used on anakin.
Speaker 2:It wasn't an app um um not obi-wan. Oh my god, who's his dude? Liam neeson, I can't. Qui-gon, qui-gon, qui-gon, qui-gon had the same damn thing for his blood, remember, he sent it off, but he sent it to obi-wan to ask.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, obi-wan was on the scene. Check this boy's midi-chlorian count.
Speaker 2:Yeah but he was sitting there with he had the same thing, he had that same little.
Speaker 1:That little device. Yes, all right, I'd still like to get that app on my phone.
Speaker 4:Baron Papanoida was played by Star Wars creator George Lucas in Revenge of the Sith. He is voiced by Corey Burton in the Clone Wars episode Sphere of Influence. Cool All right, who based his voice on the legendary director Orson Welles.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, I could see that, okay, Okay.
Speaker 3:And his son in the show was voiced by Seth Green Seth.
Speaker 1:Green, yeah, so it ended up being a really fun episode. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of action. We got to see Jabba.
Speaker 1:We got to see Jabba and little Rhoda, little stinky little baby stinky.
Speaker 2:So I wonder whatever happened to that thing, he probably grew up and became some kind of mobster, I mean just like his dad, I would assume.
Speaker 1:Or he displeased his father.
Speaker 3:Is that who you see in Book of Boba Fett? Because remember there is a young hut boy right and girl Wasn't there, like a hut couple and book a boat?
Speaker 1:Yeah were they brother and sister? I don't remember, I don't know, I don't remember, maybe that's. Stinky, I don't know. We could probably ask the lore master. He would know the keeper of the holocron what?
Speaker 3:happened to Stinky?
Speaker 2:So now we, but I do like, I do like I feel, I mean I feel kind of bad that you know he got killed. I mean he's crazy, I know, but he kind of had reasonings for he was murdered in his home he was by the girlfriend of a guy that owed him money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's basically.
Speaker 3:Like he bought her nice lingerie. He showered her with gifts yeah, food and entertainment.
Speaker 1:He gave her a job. I mean, she was unemployed, she was an unemployed. She wasn't unemployed, she was a senator of a planet that got blown up.
Speaker 3:Wasn't even a planet anymore. She wasn't even a planet anymore.
Speaker 1:She was the senator of an asteroid field. That's what she said the honor roll senator from the Alderaanian asteroid field. Please, you have the floor.
Speaker 2:That's fucked up. I mean, I'm just saying, actually she's the Naboo princess, that's what I call her because and Naboo's still there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she didn't grow up on.
Speaker 2:Naboo. It doesn't matter, she was born on Naboo.
Speaker 1:She was born of, but not on.
Speaker 4:So, before I go too deep diving into this, do we know whether or not Hutts age?
Speaker 2:oddly, I think they do.
Speaker 1:I don't know. All I know is that Hutts are hermaphrodites. Yeah, that's all I know.
Speaker 4:The reason I ask is because I'm on Star Wars fandom and they are saying that Rhoda was 55 years old during the Clone Wars film.
Speaker 1:I mean Grogu was 50.
Speaker 4:How old does that make Jabba?
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Hundreds of years old.
Speaker 2:I mean, he is kind of a slug thing. I mean, how long do worms live?
Speaker 1:Wouldn't that be some shit if he was the same age as Yoda?
Speaker 3:Oh, maybe they were BFFs in high school.
Speaker 1:Maybe Jabba was like At the Jedi Academy.
Speaker 4:Jabba was born in 600 BBY.
Speaker 2:Whoa so he's even older than 600 years old. Yeah, and Yoda was 9.
Speaker 1:So he was like 620 by the time, 630-ish but that seems right for this.
Speaker 3:Yoda was 900 when he died, so Yoda's still 300 years old.
Speaker 2:But he could have 30-ish 620 by the time you see him.
Speaker 3:But that seems right for this. Yoda was 900 when he died, when he died, so Yoda's still 300.
Speaker 1:300 years up on him right.
Speaker 2:But he could have lasted. He might have lasted longer, maybe he chose to go.
Speaker 1:Yoda, Yoda maybe.
Speaker 2:The way he did it. It's like he was really I know.
Speaker 1:Jabba didn't make that choice. Jabba didn't choose to go. Jabba was go. Chavo was fat and happy man.
Speaker 2:He was fat and happy. I don't think he had to. I feel kind of bad for him because he didn't have to die. But anyway that's a different thing.
Speaker 1:But it's like you know what. It just seems like something that you would see on Cops, Like an episode of Cops. They go to a trailer park and somebody's dead right Like the guy. The local dude that loans people money is dead and uh, and travis and bridget are in the back of the car. You know this guy, travis, owed him money but you know we couldn't get it to him. So he had him brought to his house. So I broke into his house. I killed that son of a bitch because he was gonna hurt my travis.
Speaker 2:So my thing is is they could have gave him the money that han owed them yeah, they could probably would have let han go he absolutely would.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, he wouldn't let. No, that was his favorite decoration, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Money talks, I think. I think if you gave maybe a little more some interest, that's why he said java, I could pay a triple don't be a fool. Oh, is that what he said?
Speaker 3:yeah, oh he did he's like oh money, I don't give a shit about money.
Speaker 1:He's like I'm not gonna part with my favorite. I forgot about that work of art. And it sends a message to anyone else that wants to. Uh, you know, not pay okay you know.
Speaker 3:I will say, though, like in this episode um, they kind of made java like the butt of the joke a little bit okay, and it's always implied, especially in live action, that java is this big bad gangster lord, like he is the kingpin of right gangsters. Can we see some of that?
Speaker 2:like yeah, they say that but we haven't seen that the the other Hutt. They make her more gangster style. Who the?
Speaker 4:Zero Zero.
Speaker 1:Zero yeah.
Speaker 2:They make her more of a badass.
Speaker 1:Zero's Jabba's cousin. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2:But Jabba, just kind of, I think he you know what. Really I don't think he wants to be a gangster, he just is trying to collect his money, I feel like he does like to be.
Speaker 1:I think he likes to be a gangster. He just is trying to collect his money. I feel like he does like to be.
Speaker 2:I think he likes to be no, no, I think he likes some power, but he just sits in his fucking castle or goes on his barge and parties like he's like the godfather he's living the life.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what he is. Yeah, he's absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying he doesn't send people out and put him down the pit. I mean, I'm not saying that, I just.
Speaker 1:I just feel like he's like you'd think that maybe after he had his kid, that maybe he would like retire or take a step back oh, hell, no, but no, he wants to show the kid right he wants to show rhodo saying maybe, maybe the kid was I don't know, I don't know, but um, it was a great episode. I, yeah, I did like seeing dad, you know, go john wick like that.
Speaker 4:That was very surprising he pulled out those two blasters and first he pulls the knife on Greedo Right. That was awesome.
Speaker 1:He fucking pulled a blade out on that motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Oh fucking Neos.
Speaker 4:Let's go.
Speaker 1:No, that was good shit, that was.
Speaker 2:That was a fun episode, and then it was sad because 99 died, and then, and then it was sad because 99 died.
Speaker 1:And then it was sad.
Speaker 4:Oh, that was the other episode.
Speaker 2:You're still feeling it.
Speaker 1:I'm still feeling it, you're still feeling it. Sorry guys. Thoughts and prayers 99. Anyway, that's okay, but so In the arms of the angels. So far, I would say season three is off to a pretty good start. Yeah, I think we had one kind of a I don't want to say a filler, but I guess one. No, no, the last one was pretty good.
Speaker 3:But it wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1:I think everything was pretty good. Supply lines Supply lines was almost it was okay, it was necessary was pretty good.
Speaker 4:Supply lines Supply lines was almost it was okay, it was necessary, it was necessary it was necessary, but I almost feel like you could have just made Ambush a two-part episode and included that and had that there at the beginning. Just call it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I agree because right there at the end leads right up into it. Yeah, Could have been a two-parter.
Speaker 1:But, like you said, they may not have even had that story yet. So I mean, who knows what's going on in Dave's brain?
Speaker 3:He was like oh hey, let's talk about this. Well, a lot of these episodes seem to. I think Dave really likes Ryloth.
Speaker 1:So I mean, we've already seen Ryloth.
Speaker 3:A few times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I like a few times, yeah, like, and I don't think we're done with ryloth?
Speaker 1:oh, not by a long shot, yeah, not by a long shot. He likes the twilight, well, and he likes the cindula family, as we know. So we're going to see much more of the cindula family, um, but I think also, it's a lot of, it's a lot of dot connecting going on. So I think, like you know, as things as we get further into the series, a lot of stuff that we're watching now is is necessary, is that those foundations, the foundation building for future stuff, for the future stuff. So, yeah, all right, so that's gonna do it. Uh, homework, homework, homework for uh, you, our beloved star, watch episodes five through eight, catch up on our past episodes and, of course, be sure to tell your friends and your enemies to give us a listen. And if you would like to follow us on social media, you can do that at the SWS Show on all platforms. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast and our YouTube channel and if you'd like to get some of this sweet, sweet merchandise that we are all wearing, most of us.
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Speaker 4:I was looking to see the ultimate fate of Jabba's son, and they do not mention it. The huts that we do see in the Mandalorian are his cousins, but there's nothing to suggest whatever happened to Rob.
Speaker 1:So you know what? So this is a little information. So we're currently putting together a radio play, a little radio drama, and so maybe we could add Rhoda. Since nothing's been done with Rhoda yet, maybe we can.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll have to explore that. We'll have to explore.
Speaker 1:Maybe we're working for a young adolescent up-and-coming Rhoda. Anyway, all right, that's going to do it for us, for a young adolescent up-and-coming rota. Hmm, anyway, all right, that's going to do it for us. Thank you again, as always, for joining us and always remember, please, if no one does anything nice for you, please do something nice to yourself, and we're going to see you all next week. Bye, outro Music.
