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Clone Wars Season 3, Ep5-8: Politicians and Padawans
Join us in SafeSpace this week, as we explore the lesser-known intricacies of The Star Wars: Clone Wars Season 3. Join our light-hearted discussion on themes of corruption, power, and technological advancements within the Star Wars universe. Whether you're a devoted fan or just "Swarsy Curious," our podcast promises a fresh, non-toxic perspective that invites everyone to engage with the galaxy far, far away.
Navigate the intricate storytelling of The Clone Wars series with us, as we unravel the non-linear timeline and delve into episodes like "Corruption," "The Academy," and "Assassin." Our conversation highlights the parallels between the series' themes and real-world politics, emphasizing the seductive nature of power. We celebrate Ahsoka's growth and leadership, drawing insightful connections to iconic superhero narratives while questioning the potential for change. With speculative discussions on familial ties and character development, this episode offers a rich exploration of thematic resonance within Star Wars.
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Speaker 3:It's fine, it's fine uh, so recently on starwarscom they did a poll, which is different because for the past several years they've only done quizzes, so a poll was more of a. They wanted the community to answer a question and the poll was choose the most frightening creature from a galaxy far, far away. So I'm curious, before I share the results, what everyone at the table thinks. That's a great question uh, most frightening creature in a galaxy far, far away.
Speaker 1:I love it sherry tony, what do you guys think? What the most terrifying?
Speaker 2:what was that one we just watched? I can't remember its name.
Speaker 1:Referring to the zillow beast, the zillow beast, yeah I mean he's impervious to everything pretty much, yeah, except that gas well, that's yeah all right, yeah, zillow beast, that's cool, tony.
Speaker 1:Uh, I think I'm gonna go, for I don't know. I don't know that we ever heard their names, but those owl, like creatures from the acolyte that were in the forest oh Well, you're the lore master, look it up. But you put me on the spot so I had to give an answer. No, no, that's fine. Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot about those. I don't remember their names. I'm sure they did somewhere. They usually well, maybe not, maybe not, I don't know. Tom Tommy, yes, maybe not, I don't know Tom.
Speaker 1:Tommy yes, what's your answer? Honestly, I think it's those, those zombie worms from the clone wars we saw. Oh, that went into their, that went up their noses and it like it zombified them. I forgot about that?
Speaker 2:where was that?
Speaker 1:what planet it was geonosis, wasn't it? That was the geonosian hive mind. Yeah, like they. Uh, yeah, it was. Yeah, they were like the hive mind worms. Yeah, I remember that that was. That was pretty cool, that was rough, that was creepy, that was, that was a creepy thing, yeah, creepy crawly so what's the answer?
Speaker 3:what about you, louis? Um, I would have said probably the rancor, just because they're cute, it's more like a fan favorite, I think. Then, all right me believing they're the scariest thing I got you star, I mean, it would be impossible for us to know, like every creature, right? So yeah, we can't know, but but based on the ones we've terrified me, you, know as a kid it would be impossible for us to know every creature right, so we can't know.
Speaker 1:but but based on the ones we've, they always terrify me, you know, as a kid Gigantic teeth and claws, I get it. I like the rancor.
Speaker 3:But the answer, the poll answer, was indeed the brain worms. Really, they were referred to, okay, as the most terrifying creature. Oh, because of their ability to just completely take over the mind. It's limitless. They can take over the mind of any creature they inhabit.
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:They are the most dangerous creature in that they can take over the body of the most dangerous creature.
Speaker 1:So if they got a hold of like a Sarlacc or something, they're a Sarlacc.
Speaker 3:What Sarlacc is actually on here, but it's like way down there actually. That makes sense too, though, Middle of the middle of the pack. As far as what's what's number two, yeah, what else is? Number two is ice spiders. I don't know what those are from.
Speaker 1:From the Mandalorian yes, yeah, oh, I could see that.
Speaker 3:Number three. Number three is something called the nameless um, which are creatures that existed in the uh, in the old republic it looks like they they feed off of the living force. Oh yeah well, that's uh. They're known as the name the nameless, or the shri kara, which is translated to eaters of the force oh they're hailed from the planet x. Um, they hatch from eggs. That's lazy writing. Planet x and the nameless. The nameless um, yeah they're. They're a, uh, they're a comic creature, but they are heavily what else is on the list, apparently?
Speaker 1:um, there's all kinds of stuff there's well, what was like was the poll did end up being like a top 10 or just um. This is a one, two three, four, five, which one's?
Speaker 3:that one. That's the name 15 15 we'll run down the name.
Speaker 1:All right, so brain worms yeah, that's the nameless.
Speaker 3:okay, all right, so you got brain worms, the ice fighters, the nameless night troopers, which are troopers that have been possessed by the Nightsisters, nightsisters being number two, or the Nightsister spirits. Ewoks is actually on the list as a creature, and they're above Sarlaccs. They're not even scarys in the pole.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it depends on what side of their favor you're on. I mean, because, think about it, they are savage tribal orcs, yeah, and they'll eat you. They will cook you and eat you, that's true. And they fucked up an entire legion of the Emperor's best stormtroopers.
Speaker 2:Okay, but if you I mean if you're good, they're usually pretty good but who I mean?
Speaker 1:you know, our, our intrepid heroes were good and they were still about to cook. Those motherfuckers then, with a smile on their face, sure were. Yeah, they were having a party, and there's always there's always the question of where leia got that dress from, because they, they right, they didn't just fucking whip that up and like in a couple of hours they did, they did not they got that someone else was in that dress at some point and then now that person, all the bones that were on the ground.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were. Yeah, yeah, the dead people they took, are you sure?
Speaker 2:it's people or was it creatures? Okay?
Speaker 1:well, it was a humanoid that was in that dress and then it was in an ewok belly later on at some point. So Leia was wearing some dead people clothes. Alright, I'm sorry, continue. We also have the.
Speaker 3:Raftars, which are the creatures in that Han and Chewie were carrying in their ship in the Force Awakens when Rey did those weird things, that were big ball things, rey.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they fucked people up.
Speaker 3:Sarlax, the boar gullet, which is the mind melding creature that they use in Rogue One. On the spy, you only get to see his arms or whatever. That's gross Crate dragons. Oh yeah, w's gross, krayt dragons. Oh yeah, wampas, the Sando aqua monster, which is the last marine monster that you see in the Phantom Menace. There's always a big fish when he grabs it and chops it. And rips it in half, he wrecks it underwater. And what's that called the Sando aqua monster? Oh, okay, I'd in half T-Rex underwater and what's that?
Speaker 3:called the Sando Aqua Monster. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I'd be afraid of that too.
Speaker 3:And then the last thing is something called a Vexi, which I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:It doesn't say A Vexi it looks like this weird alien. Like an alien snake.
Speaker 2:Ew, no, no, no, all right Okay.
Speaker 3:So that is your top 15, according to the community. All right, that's cool Thanks to Star Wars dot com.
Speaker 1:Thanks for posting that up on Twitter. All right, thank you very much. That's awesome. That is good stuff, love it. I like polls. We should do a poll, we should. We'll have to come up with like Something yeah, let's not now, all right, let's not now All right, let's move on. Shall we? Yeah, all right. So getting into it, we do have um episode five corruption. So it's the fifth episode um of the third season, but it is, uh, chronologically preceded by um season two's final episode lethal takedown. Damn it, dave.
Speaker 2:So yeah, final episode lethal takedown.
Speaker 1:Damn it dave, so yeah um, all this means is you need to go watch everything until you're here? Yeah, I just watch everything, you know. It's like I was gonna like I tried to put everything together chronologically, but if I would have really done a deep dive, we would not be watching any of these episodes in horror.
Speaker 3:And how annoying is that. To switch between the episode and the other, it's too much.
Speaker 1:So I was looking up the Vexi that he was talking about. It turns out that the coiled Vexi is the signet of the Mandalorian house cast oh, johto cast. That's the only cast that I know is Johto.
Speaker 3:Johto Crest is a coiled vexus, which is that last snake.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, that's pretty cool, all right, yeah, jodo cast was kind of a bad motherfucker. It's a shame that they didn't bring him into canon, but uh, yeah. So we had corruption. We had the academy, which takes place after corruption, thankfully, um. Then we had assassin and evil plans. So the episode assassin, um chronologically precedes season three's second episode, arc troopers, which we just watched um, and then evil plans. It serves as a prequel to hostage crisis, which was the last episode of season one One. So we're just all over the place. But we're, dave, we love you. But God damn it. On the on the next series, please, please, just write the stories as he's not going to.
Speaker 1:He's not going to, he never listens. We tell him all the time. So so these, all these episodes are kind of related. They're not like really a pure arc. But you know, corruption and academy that is, and then evil plans is going to move into. That's the beginning of another arc. Um, so let's talk about the corruption. Let's talk about the corruption that we're seeing everywhere. It, you know, on both sides, like absolutely everywhere, on all sides really.
Speaker 2:I mean it's it's ridiculous how much corruption there is, but I mean that's normal and and how is that reflecting?
Speaker 1:I mean really real life, especially in politics anyway, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 2:But yeah right, it's the same shit power corrupts absolute.
Speaker 1:Power corrupts absolutely yeah that's.
Speaker 1:I mean, unfortunately, it's almost a law of nature. Yeah, no matter what, that's the case, but it's true. So we did see through corruption and the academy, we did see the um. You know the culprits brought to justice and you know we've got these new, young, fresh mandalorian students who you know they learned a valuable lesson. Do we think it's going to help at all? Do you think these youngsters are, you know, going to potentially follow through with what they've learned in all of this? Maybe it gave them a little more civic pride having to uh, you know they brought down the prime minister yeah, but I also think that you know they're still're still young enough where they can be swayed easily.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:To be honest, you know.
Speaker 3:Except maybe the one kid who's like related to Satine. Yeah, he might be good on the up and up for a little while.
Speaker 2:Maybe, or he could be the worst one, maybe he could be, but that's the thing. He might take what he learned and twist it. I don't it's possible. What he learned and twist it I don't you know what I mean like he's gonna. He's gonna think that, oh, this is good for my planet, but it doesn't matter who I have to take out to make sure my planet stays safe, right? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, so like you know, I might have to do I may have to do the wrong things for the right reason yes, that sort of scenario which always happens.
Speaker 2:It's like a never ending cycle, Okay. So who knows? I mean he might be great, but he might be Hopefully. We know what happens later so.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I mean how, when you say we know what happens later, like what do you mean? Like, which, like, how far later Are later? Because if that's the case, I mean I'm just saying you know, little corky might not even be one with, he might be one with the force at this point right who knows?
Speaker 1:so, tony? Tony brought up a very interesting question while we were watching that episode. So corky is, uh, is, a sateen Satine. He is the nephew to Duchess Satine, which Not a Satine but a Kreese, yes, I'm sorry, yes, a Kreese. So to what Kreese is little quirky Kreese related, do we think?
Speaker 3:So is Bo sisters with what's her face.
Speaker 1:I don't know who Bo is. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:We have not met that character yet, but it doesn't matter, no, okay.
Speaker 3:We've said how many spoilers that?
Speaker 2:we haven't met yet.
Speaker 1:So the Cree's family is large. There are quite a few members of the Cree's family.
Speaker 2:Satine um satine has at least one brother and one sister that I know about, um, so maybe it's the brother. Maybe it's the brother because we know, I don't think a girl had no babies. I don't know, I don't think so, I don't know.
Speaker 1:The sister might be too young yet could be whoever that might be, whatever that person's name is louie maybe I don't know, I don't know I don't know I don't have that button, so seriously, I don't have. I don't have the dun dun dun button. I don't have any good buttons yet I'm so ill prepared, as per usual, you've had months to prepare.
Speaker 1:Yes, but I was also playing Fallout Anyway. So we were also talking about and we really haven't touched on that yet this season, but last season when we were talking about filler episodes, you know how, how could they possibly have some value, Cause sometimes filler episodes just feel like filler episodes, and a couple of these felt kind of like filler episodes.
Speaker 2:I think for the most part, they not filler. There was some drop-ins, yes, that we need to know about for some other stuff, but it's the yes, but it's like the vehicle that they used to get us there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of like oh man, man, did you, did you have to send 3PO and R2 on a grocery run just to get these other things in motion? But so I don't know. But no, so we know Sherry's like no, no, but we talked last season about how we wanted to kind of like, look at these you know filler episodes, as we're calling them, you know and see, you know Palpatine's influence, because that's something you know, palpatine is just ubiquitous. I mean, no matter where you look, no matter what's going on, palpatine is involved in some way, because the whole I mean the Clone Wars were engineered by him. Yeah, so we already know. So, with these episodes, with these episodes, you know, are we feeling, you know, we'll just talk about corruption in the academy are we feeling, uh, palpatine's influence in either of these episodes? I mean, he, you know, did he do something to? I mean, was he working with the prime minister?
Speaker 1:I don't think so you think this was just totally no, I think there was a middleman.
Speaker 2:I think they're being manipulated by some outside, by palpatine's people. But that counts though, but that I mean but is but palpatine is did.
Speaker 1:Do you think that palpatine had anything to do with the prime minister's actions of trying to? Well, either trying to, you know, take things over, or because mandalore wants to stay neutral. Like they said in the episode, they've had to rely on black market goods and services just because I think his heart was in, to be honest, in the right place. I know it's wrong but so again doing the wrong things for the right reasons.
Speaker 2:Yes, because he's trying to make sure the planet has stuff, but he was also doing it for greed.
Speaker 1:so then there's so do you think he was working independently of Palpatine? So Palpatine had nothing to do with this at all? I don't know. I can't think Palpatine had any direct influence in this. However, they don't really state it much in the thing, so they decided to stay neutral. Trade has become a problem. The question would be did Palpatine have anything to do with that?
Speaker 1:The trade issues yeah, okay, that's fair, and whether he did directly or not, I could see where it would be part of his master plan to say hey, if you want to try and stay neutral, you're going to have these issues, and he's a smart enough politician to know that you're going to have those issues and that, as a result, there's going to be some natural corruption, there's going to be some other things that are going to become a problem with that.
Speaker 1:a result, there's going to be some natural corruption, there's going to be some other things that are going to become a problem with that, and inevitably it'll divert resources from the war effort to deal with those things right and thus prolong the war and make it that much more of a problem, because one way or another, he needs Mandalore. Either he needs Mandalore out of the way, or he needs Mandalore under his control or on his side.
Speaker 2:yeah, so I think every. I mean we can just assume everything is going back to palpatine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, but some things, some things do feel like you. You can feel his little, his little touch and some things. It's like is this just like happenstance and coincidence, or did he make that happen? Because, like, how much I mean? Because I don't think he made it, he couldn't he couldn't possibly be in control of. Like everything right, or could?
Speaker 2:he. I mean, he just set up the dominoes and now they're falling where he needs them to fall. Okay, because he's working both sides, so it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1:He just set up the playing field, okay, that's it and just he's just why I like he's just watching the players, he's just watching it all play out and then, as things move in certain directions and he starts making moves.
Speaker 2:It's like a coach.
Speaker 3:He calls audibles.
Speaker 2:All right, I like that.
Speaker 1:I don't even do sports. Is that what you're thinking, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, when we're talking specifically about the Mandalore episodes, I think that he definitely has, like his hands in everything. But I don't know if this prime minister guy I I mean I don't think that there was anything deliberate between palpatine and and this prime minister guy I think the prime minister guy maybe he started with the right intentions and then the greed got to him when he realized because I don't, he doesn't seem like a malicious person, like out the gate you could see how maybe that greed and he got a little taste of that black market and he was like, hmm, I can make something too. So he went down the corruption path. But I don't think he started that way, I don't think there was anything. But Palpatine is all over that place. I mean, he's got spies and stuff.
Speaker 3:I mean, like you said, mandalore is a very important part of his plan.
Speaker 2:It really is, and he's you know, like I don't think the prime minister had any intention of his corruption resulting in the harm of a bunch of children sick or potentially dead, but at the same time he was like no he looked the other way, yeah, when he knew they were taking bribes on the poor.
Speaker 1:But when push came to shove, he was ready to set up the Duchess.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course, to save his own ass, but I mean really the whole episode, I think, was just about Ahsoka again, which I don't mind. Her growth, I like Ahsoka and her growth yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's, and that's a good point too. That's something that we do see a few more times in this batch that we watched. We know we're seeing, you know, ahsoka, you know and again Ahsoka, and and proud big brother, anakin. You know he was like oh yeah, I heard you took a bunch of innocent children and help them to destabilize and overthrow a corrupt government. So good job, and you did it all without a lightsaber.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, and I think that's the whole point Is that you don't need to. I don't know. It's just, I don't even know how to say it.
Speaker 1:It's like that line from one of the Spider-Man movies where it's the where he's talking to iron man. He's like you can't take the suit, I'm nothing without the suit. And he goes if you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it. Then, yeah, you don't deserve the suit so there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so no, I think this was mostly about ahsoka, to be honest with you. I mean, the the corruption was part of it, but that was the vehicle. I think so, and to show how these kids were resilient and she can teach others, which is a good thing for her. Yeah, so she's not just.
Speaker 1:I mean, she has a padawan still but she's so much more, but she's so much, she's so much more, and we see that well, she even said that she's like what?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know what is this crap?
Speaker 1:because interesting? Because those kids were going through the same situation that she went through. You know, no one was, no one was listening to her, no one was trusting her, and so she can relate, yeah, to these kids and now she's commanding troops, and now she's commanding troops, so, and those kids are going to look up to her oh yeah, she's got allies for life oh, absolutely, and I do like, I do like how, um, when uh was it the prime minister?
Speaker 1:yeah, the prime minister had said, you know, because of uh, the uh, the adventures from? Yeah, the prime minister had said because of the adventures from Master Kenobi, the last time he was here we don't allow weapons in the city and Ahsoka was like what? Master Kenobi was in trouble, what? So I do I love the dynamic between Anakin Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, that's just. I absolutely love it. And there was, we did get a little and Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, that's just I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1:We did get a little. There was a little tension between Satine and Padme when Padme came over. There was a little.
Speaker 2:That's the second one right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think yeah was that. This Was that. The second one Was that Academy? No, that was Corruption. That was the first one. But she came over and Satine was like you know, yeah, you're not here just for politics. I thought I'd show you around.
Speaker 2:We got some alone time.
Speaker 1:I think they're just friends. She's there for a girl's weekend. I have girlfriends, it's perfectly fine. But, like Louis had said, all it takes is just a little nudge, a little tap a touch of the hand stroke the electric.
Speaker 2:She loves the handling run.
Speaker 1:There is no way it's a little dangerous right a little dangerous we already know, padme is a rebel, so dirty, a little dirty, little filthy, and she likes wearing chokers. So we know, we know what's going on there, anyway, moving on, moving on. So assassins, we get to see um again. This is uh, um, what episode is this one? This is episode seven, okay, um, and of course, in this one we've got uh, the assassination attempt on, uh, on padme, or a saying is back, and this takes place after the um, the events of, is it? No, it precedes the events of arc troopers, so everything's um. One interesting tidbit about this episode was that when padme arrives on alderaan, they they're playing Leia's theme, the music.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't notice that I didn't notice it either.
Speaker 1:I completely missed it, but it was such a nice touch though it's awesome. It is awesome. And there's that scene where she's kind of just like looking out and Ahsoka comes up and you know they're talking about how, you know how it's beautiful and so poor Padme. So this was another good growing episode for Ahsoka. Yeah, I think I liked seeing her and Padme interact.
Speaker 2:I thought that was super sweet. When she saw her, she just ran up and hugged her ran up and hugged her.
Speaker 1:Super sweet when she saw her, she just ran up and hugged her. Ran up and hugged her and I liked that scene that they had on the ship when they were playing Djaric, which we have right here in front of us. It kind of reminded me of the scene between Padme and Anakin in the Phantom Menace when they were on the ship and she was comforting him because you know, he was feeling a little sad and insecure you know, it's the same scene on ahsoka, right on her ship, with that girl, with who the girl is again, yeah, they were sitting and playing this as well were they really?
Speaker 2:I don't remember them playing that I think they sat there and it was there.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they played it, but I know it's always like those that that mentor type in the quiet moments, yeah, sort of thing if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:I'll have to look it up, but okay, I think.
Speaker 1:I think that was the same so we do have to give thoughts and prayers to um senate guard snap neck because, uh, or singh, in her tight blue body suit, no hesitation, no hesitation snapped my boy's neck like wasn't even courting stuff to give him a kiss. Good night at the end. No, no, that's just asajj who does like sexy shit like that, yeah aura doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 2:And did she have some new shit on her eyes? I?
Speaker 3:think she's a different like outfit, and yeah, because she usually rocks the orange outfit.
Speaker 1:She was rocking the blue. This is a different. She looked a little bit different. At first I thought it was someone different that looked like her right yeah but then you see the big antenna sticking out of her head because she should have been dead, and remember that's ahsoka had reported her dead because she crashed in Slave 1.
Speaker 2:Well, and this is the first time we see Ahsoka with visions.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was very interesting, and she trusted her instincts.
Speaker 3:Lots of parallels with Anakin in that episode.
Speaker 2:This was unlike Anakin, who didn't trust his instincts. She trusted her instincts and went to the right person. I feel bad. I'm glad Anakin wasn't there, because he would have made a big deal about it well, that's, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:Let's explore that a little bit like well, because I think he would have just been like oh, that's, you know, you're just still learning blah, blah, blah. Like, to be honest, I think he would have dismissed it a little, maybe made really a little fun of her, not in a bad way, just kind of like like, well, you know, it's just dreams, that's what I think, okay, but yoda, and who's the other guy we like that teaches? Oh, plow yeah he, I think he was.
Speaker 1:She could have trusted him as well with all right not that she can't trust anakin, but I I know what you mean but you think that you think that anakin would have been a little more dismissive. Yoda was not, Yoda was like no he was on top of. Go for it, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's probably because he saw the same thing.
Speaker 1:You think so. You think, I think he sees a little. You think he's seeing the same stuff.
Speaker 2:I think he saw what, maybe a little what she saw. Okay, but I liked his just sit and meditate. She's doing that a lot more, I noticed, Because even when she was fighting she actually for a second.
Speaker 3:She had to focus.
Speaker 2:And she did focus and kick their ass. She did.
Speaker 1:Well, and when she was in that meeting hall, she was really. She closed her eyes, she was focusing, trying to find out. And when she did that, she was like yeah, orsing's not here, she's not in this room. Yes, and that's what saved padme's life.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, ultimately, anakin would not have done that what would anakin have done?
Speaker 1:what do you think? No I.
Speaker 2:I think he would have just freaking been in front of padme's face like a human shield. I'm gonna stand right here, I'm not gonna try to even anakin would have pulled her out like that, that'd have to.
Speaker 1:Even anakin would have pulled her out like that. That would have been it.
Speaker 2:Anakin would have taken her and would have been gone oh yeah, he would have been like no, you're not doing that, we're out, you're not doing that but then pat may would have argued and been like, no, you're not gonna tell me what to do, so no, she would have ended up doing it, but I just think I don't think he would have caught it in time. I, I just don't, because he doesn't feel that way. He's he. If padme was in the room, I'm just feeling padme.
Speaker 1:That's who I'm feeling right so he gets too focused, you think no, he's too emotional. Yeah, about everybody he loves the compassion and the love is his weakness.
Speaker 2:Yeah so ahsoka getting all these mentors because she does not have one teacher? Oh no, no, anakin is not, but you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:like he's supposed to be, but he's, she's no okay she takes from, she takes the good from everybody right anakin as well well, maybe not, maybe not all of it, you know but some of that stuff is necessary it is no, you're right, you're absolutely I'm talking about the good in him, like straight up, not the mischievous starting shit like he's.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean but she even surprised him when, uh they were when they went to interrogate uh, was it zero yeah right in the, she took charge, she. Well, she lied to him. Well, who cares? Yeah, I know that's the thing like like anakin looked at her like oh yeah, I saw.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, well, I would too.
Speaker 1:That's a good investigator, like well, she said everything, the fuck yeah so they captured her and and I liked how her visions, the effect that they used, was similar to the ones that they use with anakin's visions yeah, like the zooming in on the mind and zooming out on the mind.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say there's a lot of parallels in this episode to what we see of Anakin dreaming in Revenge of the Sith.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He even goes to Yoda, sits Indian style in front of Yoda oh really and tells him about his dreams, like this is what I'm seeing and he's just careful.
Speaker 2:I see, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3:Be mindful, because and that's what Ahsoka did and she was able to save Padme that's not what Anakin did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anakin.
Speaker 2:Again, he was not mindful.
Speaker 1:He was not mindful. He chose or demure. Or demure he chose, he chose differently. He chose differently, he chose poorly.
Speaker 3:So that's a good.
Speaker 2:That's really good, louis, because you can tell where the disconnect is between Anakin and Ahsoka, even though I know they love each other, as you know, master and.
Speaker 1:And apprentice, but you know, she has more control. Well, we saw that. I mean but we saw that, yeah, but she's still young.
Speaker 2:It all depends she's still very young, but I mean she had control as an infant as an infant?
Speaker 1:sure so, but it's like she. She really is a good counterbalance to him whatever her race is.
Speaker 2:I think they're very patient because when we saw her grudas but when we saw them, even in their own village, everyone was patient and mindful. So she got that as well, and demure.
Speaker 1:Shakti is also a Togruta. I believe, oh really, and she was very wise, because they have the same type of Liku type head tails they're just different colors, shakti's red and yeah, and, and it was oh, I know you're talking is orange okay
Speaker 1:and like she, you know she, they're very wise. You know, obviously she gave that great advice to the clone troopers about working together and all that. So, um, so what? Oh, evil plans. So this was the grocery episode, but it was used to set up, you know, something like this, this new, this new arc that's coming up. But, um, so are we seeing palpatine's influence in anything here at all, do you think? Or is it just again? He's just letting the pieces kind of fall as they may, or no, I think.
Speaker 3:I think that this is some type of I think now we have gotten into some sort of palpatine influence, because I think that, like everything at this, at this stage in the war, they're doing everything that they can to push Anakin from both sides.
Speaker 3:Right, the Jedi are trying to push Anakin, hurry up his training, get him where he needs to be so he can be this thing that they need him to be to end this war and bring balance to the force, Whereas you know Palpatine is pushing him to. You know, do the anger and the hate thing. You know do the anger and the hate thing. So I could totally see Palpatine doing everything that he can to get to Padme because he knows that that's the way to get to Anakin, right. And so in this episode we're seeing Cad Bane try and get information about Padme through 3PO and then he realizes oh shit, I got to go get R2. That's the one I really need. I don't know, I wouldn't say that you sidious. Specifically, you know, contacted cad bane, but sure dooku probably did, who was sent from palpatine like, hey, you need to keep going after padme because that's the way that we get to that's a dangerous game, though.
Speaker 1:That's a dangerous game because I mean, if you know, they're not telling these bounty hunters to capture Padme, they're telling them to saucer like take her out, because I think Palpatine wants that. Because she's very outspoken against him well, against the corruption in the Senate.
Speaker 2:Well and he knows of their relationship.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, he knows they're married.
Speaker 2:He knows it.
Speaker 3:It will break him. He knows that it will break him.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And that's what he needs.
Speaker 1:Trying to get to her but even though, like, if she dies, it'll break him quicker, right, but it's every time that she doesn't die, you know, it puts him on the defensive even more and it's just, it eats at him a little more and it creates more conflict and more fear, which, of course, as we know that, leads to anger, and anger leads to yeah, all of that.
Speaker 3:So it's just suffering, yeah so I I agree.
Speaker 1:I think palpatine definitely has his, uh, his claws in it here in some way.
Speaker 2:Well, again, like I said, he stacks them up and Watches them fall. Just watches it fall and he knows where it's going to fall, I mean, and he doesn't care actually either side, because he's playing both sides. He's playing both sides.
Speaker 1:So I mean, it doesn't matter, Either way he wins until he doesn't. And then there's that.
Speaker 2:It's until he doesn't.
Speaker 3:And then there's there's that it's the. Uh, he wins for a long time, though he does. He wins for a long time he wins for like, doesn't?
Speaker 1:he wins for like 20 years.
Speaker 3:It's not the thousand year rule that he was hoping for, no, maybe he does some damage, maybe he does do some damage and then comes yeah, you're right, and then he's always got a somehow he came back.
Speaker 2:He's always got a backup plan. He does and the whole thing. Well, that was first our second episode, I think. Um, with the dna from from jenga yeah I, I'm, I really don't think that whole thing was jenga, because she had to put something in for his face to come up. Yeah, and it was, and then get that pod right, but not the whole you don't think all that was not.
Speaker 1:I don't jango spooge.
Speaker 2:No, I think there's other things going on the the kaminoans. That's not their only fucking job. They do other sure you're right for other planets.
Speaker 3:So there's no I don't think all of that was Jango's either, because they even said in the beginning of the episode there was a conversation happening and they were like, now that Jango's dead, we are making this shit stretch.
Speaker 1:That's why they're adding the hatches Right, because they need.
Speaker 2:Because you're making copies of copies of copies yeah because now they're probably taking the clone's DNA instead of his pure, because they hardly. And then they so and they killed all the I don't know killed a lot of babies, all the babies. They killed a lot of babies.
Speaker 1:We didn't talk about that, but we didn't talk about that.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I don't think so somewhere in there Palpatine's DNA come on.
Speaker 1:You think there's some Palpatine's? Come on, of course, I don't think it's on. I don't think it's on Camino, I don't think they would. I don't think palpation would risk using his own, because why would you risk giving them? For sensitivity? He wanted that, like that's. That was something that he wanted, he for for a long time, his whole thing with cloning, because he wanted to be able to preserve himself correct. And again, this stuff isn't. This is in legends, this is in the eu. Um, there was, you know the eu.
Speaker 2:Um, there was. You know he returns, but grogu in a cloned body. He's trying to force. You know he's trying to take his like, learn his like, dna his force, or copy his force, or and that was always the problem in the eu is that for sensitive clones always went bonkers.
Speaker 1:Always the force was not able to reside, that's, in a cloned body, so it went. So when the when the emperor returned, comes back to take over the empire, that was the whole, I think dark empire series maybe, um, but the emperor comes back, it's a cloned body. You know, um, there's a clone, there's a dark cloned version of luke and that's the whole thing with mara jade and the cloned luke and all that other shit.
Speaker 1:Um, I think palpatine has at least no, palpatine's thing was cloning somewhere like yes even for I mean just because if he dies.
Speaker 2:I don't know about the force stuff, but no, that's what he wanted.
Speaker 1:he wanted he was trying to have force cloning perfected, that way he could come back and not deteriorate and go nuts, because there was another guy, joris Kaboff. He was another Jedi, but he was a clone Very powerful. He was a clone of a very powerful Jedi, but he went completely fucking chicken killer bonkers?
Speaker 2:He didn't, because he did go nuts. How do we know that wasn't a clone in you know darth vader times, like how we don't, we don't know, because that was. I mean, he was fucking nuts and he turned, he was evil quick and he looked like a piece of shit, like I mean, I know evil might make you a little you say, you look like a piece of shit. No, what what I'm saying? Like you could see, like the evil turned him. So I mean he was crazy.
Speaker 1:No, that was Mace Windu that made him look like that.
Speaker 2:That.
Speaker 1:Mace did that All right, you see I've been disfigured by the Jedi.
Speaker 2:It was not by the Jedi fool.
Speaker 1:Mace Windu was a Jedi Snorting up the dark side.
Speaker 3:My life has left me scarred, but my resolve has never been stronger, see.
Speaker 1:The Jedi are the enemy, they are the bad guys, the corruption within the Jedi. It's so sad they attacked that poor old man. You don't have to do him like that. Fuck that old man. You don't have to do him like that. I said fuck that old man. Damn, that's harsh, he's fucking nuts. He was just no, you know what he's kind of like. Palpatine was kind of like little Joe Biden, little sleepy Joe.
Speaker 2:Don't talk about Joe. He was in his office. You know like oh they're attacking me. Yeah, and soon to piss him off. And then he's like ah, and walks away from a camera.
Speaker 1:You're nice too, and so someone pisses you off, right, and then you're throwing force lightning. Then you're throwing force lightning, you're force choking the motherfucker. I'm glad you don't.
Speaker 3:I'd have been dead years ago, years ago. He'd be okay with the force choking though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, force choking's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2:No, because it chokes your intern organs too. Yeah, it's getting you on the cellular level.
Speaker 1:It depends on how carefully you use it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just use it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true. Speaking of force choking, this is completely off topic, but I saw Like everything Like everything else, but I recently saw how caviar is harvested. Okay you know, wait, hold on harvested. You know well, hold on, hold on. Stay with me. I don't think I want to hear this one. One person holds open the, the gaping mall, the port, that the, the caviar comes out of, on the sturgeon or the, the fish or whatever. I think it's a sturgeon, yeah. And another person is like pushing on their abdomen to like squirt the squirt the eggs out right, so's called milking the caviar.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, they don't, let them lay the eggs no, they definitely take them out.
Speaker 1:It's like someone wrote in the comments, because you're holding them out of the water.
Speaker 3:Who thought to do this? Who Someone was hungry, I guess. Yeah, you're hungry, I guess.
Speaker 1:Right, fucking eggs, but you're not going to let anything go to waste, like if you're hungry, you're going to eat everything.
Speaker 2:One time, but you're not like.
Speaker 3:Right and they were like you know what? I'm going to do this all the time. And then they realized, man, this is a difficult process and it's hard to find, so we're going to charge an astronomical amount of money and only rich people are going to buy it and like it.
Speaker 2:And there's black.
Speaker 1:The black ones. That's the black, there's black caviar, and there's pink caviar. I just saw the black caviar, so they just milk it out. This guy is like they have the fish turned upside down the surgeon's alive because, once they're done milking it, they're gonna throw it back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're holding them upside down and they're like right, and someone in the comment said this is terrible, like, and people were like it's not terrible, they put the fish back. And then the person was like how would you like it if someone milked you while you were also being, you know, low key, suffocated? And then other people in the comments are like people were running back. It's like don't threaten me with a good time.
Speaker 1:Or you know, I think I could, I'd pay for that I mean, or there's people who do pay for that. You know, being milked while being suffocated.
Speaker 2:Suffocate me and milk me. We've had some famous people die.
Speaker 1:We've had some famous people die because of that.
Speaker 2:We've had some famous people die because of that All erotic association.
Speaker 1:So oh, Kung Fu. And there was another meme that shows when Padme was getting.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's inappropriate. She was pregnant.
Speaker 1:She was, but they changed it. You know, she's like holding her throat like this, and it's like choke me harder, daddy. And then Anakin was like what, and Padme was like what, and then Obi-Wan was like what, that whole scene.
Speaker 2:That's inappropriate. It is inappropriate, not funny. Whoever's listening to this? No, that's inappropriate.
Speaker 1:No, that's the line drawn. That is the line drawn, so that'll be a wrap for this week on that note.
Speaker 2:Okay, so don't milk fish, don't milk fish.
Speaker 1:No milking while choking unless you're Unless you're consensual. Unless you're consensual, yes. So this does set us up for our next round next week with the hunt for Zero. So we're going to have Zero, who is a funny character I like.
Speaker 2:I like I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you like. Oh, uncle Pecos, we almost, we almost. I almost forgot about that.
Speaker 2:So this is for our older listeners.
Speaker 1:This is a deep cut. Lore master, help us out. I don't know if this was intentional or not, but this if for in this episode, evil plans. Look at the street vendor. When they went shopping for groceries and the street vendor looked an awful lot like uncle pecos, who is I. I looked this up while we were watching it and, yes, they did indeed look an awful lot like it but was it? Intentional? I don't see any evidence to suggest from tom and jerry but it's too much of a coincidence very close it's a hell of a coincidence if it's just going dave and dave's our age.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's probably exactly from yeah or, or somebody on the on the design team, the character design team yeah, but somebody thought of it and thought it was hilarious. So look at the vendor and then look at Uncle Pecos. Tom and Jerry, look up Jerry's Uncle Pecos. Yeah, he did. And then yeah, and then I'm talking to our listener.
Speaker 2:Oh, look them up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look them up and check it out. So that is going to do it for us Homework for next week. Star Warriors is going to be episodes 9 through 12 and, of course, check up on our past episodes if you've missed them and be sure to tell your friends and tell your enemies to give us a listen, depending on how you feel about us. So let's do the obligatory pimpage here. Check us out on social media, at the SWS show, and be sure to subscribe to our podcast and on our YouTube channel. And if you'd like some of the sweet merch, look at the merch there. And if you'd like some of the sweet merch, look at the merch there it is.
Speaker 1:If you're swarzy, curious, or if you just want to support the show in some way, we do appreciate any merch purchases that you might have. Head on over to circlernerdscom, slash merch and you'll get all of your apparel needs. What is that You're like? Ooh, apparently, the man who did the voice of uncle pecos has was also the voice of a pike leader in book of boba fett. Are you serious? Yeah, oh, are you serious?
Speaker 1:yeah, it was also a voice in lego star wars skywalker saga so the actual actor from back then when we watched it his name was stephen stanson and he did the voice of of uncle pecos, the voice of uncle pecos, and has done a bunch of different voice acting and whatnot, including um yeah, including a pike leader in book of boba fett so it was a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:It was a hundred percent. That's something that I really. I hopefully we can remember this stuff, but uh, um, let me cross reference that with imdb and see when we uh, when we get dave on the show to talk about this stuff. I want to. That's one of the things that needs to be like one of the main questions. Like you know, you know not what, what's it like working with George or how was it?
Speaker 2:working on mobile.
Speaker 1:Tell us about uncle Pecos.
Speaker 3:Please.
Speaker 1:He's also a straight up actor in row one. What was he involved in any way in the animated series Was he part of? Was that him? Did he do the voice of that character I'm trying to find that out, it's it's a slow going process okay, but we'll find out we'll find out and, uh, hopefully we'll have the answer for you next week.
Speaker 1:We'll have the answer for you next week because, uh, that would be just too, too meta, that'd be so funny. All right, we're gonna find out for you, so tune in next week. Now you have a reason to tune in next week, as if you didn't already have a reason to tune in next week so tune in next week as we discover who Uncle. What did you guys find? Something.
Speaker 3:He's a voice actor of a few different characters.
Speaker 1:He's done a number of things in the Star Wars universe, and it does specifically mention a role in Clone Wars.
Speaker 3:The role with Tysa Tarkin.
Speaker 1:Wilhuff Tarkin. Yeah, that's Grand Admiral Tarkin. Wilhuff is his first name. Okay Damn, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
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