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Jedi Jealousy and Midi-chlorian Mysteries: Clone Wars Season 3, Ep 9-12
What do Indiana Jones and Star Wars have in common? Quite a lot actually! Find out more this week as we explore Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Season 3, episodes 9 through 12. Expect unexpected betrayals and a sprinkling of fun trivia, such as R2D2's cameo in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." We also pay homage to Star Wars legends like Carrie Fisher and Samuel L. Jackson while sharing a toast to these beloved figures.
Sy Snootles shocks us, Palpatine pushes Anakin closer to the Dark Side, and the galaxy starts getting a little murkier. Get comfortable, prepare for spoilers, and join us for a blend of nostalgia, trivia, and heartfelt moments.
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Coming up, brutal betrayals, indiana Jones, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, mass hysteria and so much more. It's the Clone Wars season. Three, episodes nine through ten Two, two, nine. Hold on Twelve, hold on, let me have another drink.
Speaker 2:I've been drinking all night.
Speaker 1:It's the Clone Wars war, season 3, episodes 9 through 12. This week on your star wars safe space, your non-toxic, low sodium star wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that r2d2 had a cameo appearance in close encounters of the third kind. Yes, I didn't know it. I saw it for the first time today and it is awesome. So if you haven't seen it, go online, check it out. It is very, very cool. So, whether you're a hardcore star wars fan or just a little swarthy, curious, like it says on my shirt here, swarthy curiouszy, curious, blammo, this is your Star Wars safe space. We are the Circle of Nerds and we do absolutely love Star Wars, even if we don't always like it. So let's meet the crew, shall we? So, to my left, your right star of stage and screen, it is the sensational Sherry. Hello everyone, there we go. There's your applause. Oh shit, no, I pushed it. I pushed it and, hailing from parts unknown, it is the tea to the oni.
Speaker 3:Welcome back to the galaxy everybody.
Speaker 1:And from the outer rim territory of Bostween is Daddy Louie.
Speaker 4:Hello children, and that's where we are right now.
Speaker 1:On Bostween. We are currently on Bostween. We are in Daddy Louie's cantina. We're in the VIP lounge of the cantina right we are so also known as Daddy's Dungeon and we are partaking of some delicious Ryloth Ale. And some some.
Speaker 2:Tatooine snacks.
Speaker 1:Some Tatooine, some imported Moss, isley, jawa Crackers.
Speaker 4:There you go, jawa Flavored Crack go Jawa flavored, crackers Jawa flavored.
Speaker 1:Oh, very hairy Not nice. Very hairy. All right, it's so rude to eat while you're talking. It really isn't, it's fine Talking on a microphone. I'm sorry, it's fine. It's fine More Ryloth ale. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So what are we doing here? Well, it is our mission to watch all of the canon Star Wars TV shows and films in semi chronological order. However, our lord and savior, dave Filoni, is not making that easy for us at all. So, dave, please, next time you do a show, we do love you so much, but man that's jumping around is killing us all. Hail, dave, killing us. So you, alright, you alright, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I heard someone, someone was like anyway. So a word of warning there will be spoilers. So if you, if you haven't watched what we've watched, uh, just please be aware that there will be some spoilers. So, uh, we are gonna move on and talk about episodes 9 through 12, but first the news. Okay, that's enough. That's all you got, what you got for us.
Speaker 4:So I'm finding everything crazy. So I thought we would talk about some birthdays coming up in the month of December for Star Wars, because there's a couple big ones. So, of course, our lovely princess Carrie Fisher, december 27th. Rest in power. Samuel L Jackson, mr Mace Windu he's December 21st. Jackson, mr Mace Windu, he's December 21st. Oh wow, and not an actor, but directly tied to the Star Wars universe. You mentioned him in your intro. Well, you mentioned Indiana Jones. Steven Spielberg was born on December 18th.
Speaker 3:All right, that's cool.
Speaker 4:Who shares the same birthday as our good friend Emily Swallow. Emily Swallow and Steven Spielberg share a birthday.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool. We should have had her on the show. She's so cool.
Speaker 4:When we get to the Mandalorian we'll bring her on.
Speaker 1:But happy birthday, emily. You are definitely well-liked and loved and respected here and she's a fan of the show. She's been on the show our other show a couple times. So there you go. Well, thank you, that's pretty cool. That's very cool, all right, so getting into it.
Speaker 1:We've got uh, season three, episode nine, the hunt for zero. Shocker of an episode, excellent episode. Before we really get into it, there's quite a bit to unpack for this episode that maybe we didn't. We didn't get or see a couple of things I missed, so let's see if everybody out there got it. So quinlan voss, who has been around for a while, uh, in the eu, he was based off of a character that was just briefly seen in the Phantom Menace, just if there's. There's a marketplace scene and you kind of see someone that resembles Quinlan Vos, but that was uh, that was the uh, the, the inspiration for that. That's where the character design uh came from. But he he's done numerous comics uh, the star Wars, republic series, dark Horse comics, and he was actually supposed to originally debut in the Clone Wars in the episode Bombad Jedi, and in that episode he was supposed to help Jar Jar become be a more convincing Jedi.
Speaker 1:So Quinlan was going to use the force to help jar jar appear to do things oh, when he was faking he was a jedi right, so quinlan was going to help him be more convincing, kind of like how luke helped 3po become a convincing god to the ewoks. Spoiler alert um, if you haven't seen that, if you haven't gotten that far, but again that came out in the 80s.
Speaker 1:So if you haven't seen it, all right, yeah, so um. However, that was cut because there was some sort of a rule or something about having too many new character models, um, appear in each episode. Maybe it was a budget thing, I'm not 100 sure, but it was. It was something to do with the character models. You can't have too many in one episode or just too overwhelming.
Speaker 1:They didn't want to make it too overwhelming could have been, could have been, and it's a lot for the animators to deal with. So, um, so, that was, that was the first thing. So if you're not familiar with quinlan very cool character, super chill, he's like the dude, he's like the dude, he's just like laid back, funny, you should mention that. So when, when he says, um, you know, that's just your opinion, man, yeah, that is a quote from the dude from the movie the dude, exactly so, or the big lebowski I'm sorry, the big, you've never seen it. Oh, oh, such a good, it's a great movie. Um, you've got, uh, jeff bridges, you've got, um, john goodman, john goodman, yes, you've got um, oh, my god, my brain is like so fried steve buscemi.
Speaker 2:Steve buscemi ste really cute. Tara Reid is in it.
Speaker 1:So it's Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers. He's in it. He plays one of these crazy, I think, the crazy German nihilists, or whatever. Julianne Moore is in it. So I think we see her nude. We do see her nude, don't we? Oh, half no, I think, when she's on the ceiling no, no, I know, okay, well, don't yeah, anyway, you need to watch it.
Speaker 4:Naked julianne moore so it's good from the night. You've already seen her she's.
Speaker 1:She's a boogie nights naked, so oh yeah, everybody's in boogie nights naked. I mean, who isn't naked?
Speaker 2:so anyway, that is a watch that you can also yes, if you haven't seen the big Lebowski, watch it.
Speaker 1:Great movie, lots of cool, funny quotes. Yeah, um, just you know the rug. The rug is like its own character in the movie. Anyway, don't say so I'm not okay. Well, we said there was going to be spoilers, Not for the big Lebowski.
Speaker 2:You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1:It's such a good movie, so there was that, so that was pretty cool. The dance number at the beginning of the episode, of course, was inspired by the Temple of Doom, indiana Jones and Temple of Doom.
Speaker 1:So, that whole opening dance number with and she sang the song and she sang kind of a version of the song Anything Goes. Psy Snoodles did that in this episode, which was very, very funny. Um, and it's interesting too If you, if you haven't noticed it yet, um, go back and watch Indiana Jones temple of doom, which is the best Indiana Jones film. It is bar none. It's bar none, Very best.
Speaker 4:It's literally the bottom I would rather watch. It's not the Crystal Skull. I'll smack your mouth. I'm smacking your temple of doom.
Speaker 1:Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4:Why Raiders Last Crusade, the newest movie, what's it called the Compass?
Speaker 1:The Dial of Destiny, which was not bad.
Speaker 4:Then the Crystal Skull and then all the way down. You are so fucking drunk and high Indiana Jones Like TV show that did young Indiana Jones Chronicles Heart pull thing, because that's the only thing.
Speaker 3:What is it that you did? Why?
Speaker 2:don't you like it.
Speaker 1:The fuck is wrong with you. Who are you? I don't even know who you are anymore it's not good.
Speaker 4:It is Compared to everything else. Compared to everything else.
Speaker 2:What makes it not good the screaming skull? There's just nothing. The crystal skull is fucking stupid the crystal skull is awful.
Speaker 4:No, I don't think it's that bad.
Speaker 1:It's not that bad, it's not what you need to justify that I mean anyway, okay, not good moving.
Speaker 1:I can justify like 10 reasons why it's great. But what can you? Give me one reason it's not good. Give me a a reason no, no, no, no, no, no, because you started this. You began with the attack, so you have to justify. The burden of proof is on you. This movie is universally recognized as the greatest of the Indiana Jones film. No, it is not Universally recognized. In my universe it is no way All right For me personally.
Speaker 4:For me personally Last.
Speaker 3:Crusade. It's Last Crusade, but.
Speaker 4:That was much more our generation than the other two.
Speaker 2:It's because they're babies.
Speaker 1:I'm going. Temple of Doom, raiders of the Lost Ark.
Speaker 4:What's that? One Last Crusade.
Speaker 1:Last Crusade and I don't recognize the crystal skull, the screaming skull. Have you watched the Compass? I have watched the Compass. It's very good. I liked it a lot. I liked that one a lot. That was good. I'm not sure when exactly they're going to put him in the walker, because what the fuck? I hope they're done. He handled his business, but yeah.
Speaker 4:So that was surprising. Like a Rocky thing, you know where, like he trains the next generation, the next thieving archaeologist?
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Temple of Doom. So good, I love it. Throw some, dr Jones, they will be found. You won't Such a great villain. Such a great villain, and it's all plausible. All of that could absolutely happen. Really, yeah, the end. All of that could absolutely happen. Really, yeah, the end. All of it could happen.
Speaker 2:The melting faces. The melting faces? Well, yeah, if you believe in the arc.
Speaker 1:I'm talking. Well, yeah, that's the thing the melting faces. That's implausible, that's not going to happen. No biblical magic is going to shoot out of a box and murder Nazis. How do you know? Because it doesn't exist. However, this Hindi magic, that exists, that's a thing. The thuggy cult is real. It exists.
Speaker 4:The little kid drives me nuts.
Speaker 1:Which little?
Speaker 2:kid, are you talking about short round? The little Asian kid you need to stop. Little Asian kid you need to stop.
Speaker 1:You're so insensitive. Is he not Asian? I mean, it's an Asian subcontinent.
Speaker 4:He is. Is he not Asian? He is.
Speaker 1:He is from India, he's China.
Speaker 3:You're going down a path of You're breaking my heart Louis, short round, short round.
Speaker 1:No, he's talking about the prince, he's talking about short round the little Asian kid he's talking about Indy the little asian kid. He's talking about indies, short indy sidekick. Yes, how could he annoy you? He's adorable, but you like grogu, right, what? The fuck?
Speaker 2:grogu is a sidekick, doesn't speak oh, he doesn't like people that talk, so he doesn't like you're a racist, you don't you don't, you don't like, you don't like people who speak. No speak words, that's anybody oh my God Well anyway, Like cooing baby noises.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he still vocalizes. Yoda talks you love him and he's got a speech impediment.
Speaker 2:And he's an ass.
Speaker 1:He doesn't even need to talk like that. We've heard other people from his species. Yaddle talks just fine, just fine, he chooses A. We've heard other people from his species. Yaddle talks just fine, just fine, he chooses A. Hut talks better than.
Speaker 2:Yoda A hut talks better than Yoda Just saying.
Speaker 3:Why are you taking shots at Yoda now?
Speaker 2:Just saying Because you took shots at Short Round. Short Round is wonderful.
Speaker 1:I don't know how you could. That's awful.
Speaker 2:He saves the day, dr Jones, that's awful, that's just awful.
Speaker 1:And he's also a Goonie. He is a Goonie. He's much better than Goonie. Goonies are forever.
Speaker 4:Goonies are forever.
Speaker 1:He's the same innovative genius Goonies never say die, but Louie does, louie says die all the time, anyway, anyway, anyway, the club that they were dancing in In the greatest Indiana Jones movie of all time we're all fam in the club. We're all fam in the club, in the club, we're all fam In the club. We're all fam Family. Anyway, that club was Club Obi-Wan, so on the outside of it I don't know if you guys ever noticed that or not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, they don't. He doesn't watch it.
Speaker 1:He didn't watch it, so he probably missed that.
Speaker 4:I think I've only seen it like twice.
Speaker 1:But it's Club Obi-Wan. It's so good though.
Speaker 2:Well, guess who likes it? Dave, because he put it in the movie? Yep, apparently he put it in the show.
Speaker 1:So that's a wrap on Daddy Louie. Thank you everyone. Everyone give a round of applause to Daddy Louie for joining us on the show and allowing us that to wrap on him, and now he's done so. Thank you very much for joining us and we'll see you never. Alright, the character of Mama was partially inspired by the obese vampire named Pearl from the 1998 film Blade. Yes, I knew it was partially inspired by the obese vampire named Pearl, yes, from the 1998 film Blade.
Speaker 4:Yes, I knew it, you got that vibe, right, I knew it.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm seeing, are you trying to burn her? Yeah, yeah, he did, though he tortured that big chick. He did, he did so. The Ron D Housekeeper droids and mama's hut were were a nod to the the batteries not included movie from 1997. So, yeah, that was a great movie. So that's what they were.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen that movie, tony? What's that? Batteries not included?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, Like the one the one that like floats around yeah.
Speaker 1:So and and of course we hear when, when zero gets shot which we're gonna touch on that because that was unexpected when zero gets shot, he's like what a world. And of course that's a throwback to the wizard of oz, of course, 1939 wizard of oz, first color in theater was really. That was the first color film.
Speaker 2:It was in black and white. Yeah, yeah, and no one knew that there was color. So apparently in the theater.
Speaker 1:Pandemonium.
Speaker 2:When it came out, everybody yelled and screamed and they never seen color, Never seen color. Can you imagine being there? That was there.
Speaker 4:Betty White, I'm kidding, she was born in 1939.
Speaker 1:and they never seen color. Can you imagine? Can you imagine being there?
Speaker 2:for that. That was their Betty White. I'm kidding, she was like born in 1939, 32, but was she real? I think, so I think anyway, but yes, like we have.
Speaker 1:I don't think in our lives we've ever experienced anything that life changing inspiring. Like you've only seen media in black and white for your entire existence and then all of a cut, all of a sudden.
Speaker 2:Yeah, full technicolor, like some people was radio and you saved money to go to the theater to see the moving pictures see this moving picture that had sound, because I know they had sound, but a lot of them didn't because it was cheaper right, and there was.
Speaker 1:There was their tv at this time? Were there televisions at this time in the 30s, late 30s, like in people's?
Speaker 2:homes? Yeah, probably not. I don't think so. No, master the 50s. I thought yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the 50s and then color tv.
Speaker 1:I know color tv wasn't out in 1939 oh god, no, no hell we barely got color TV.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 4:Late 70s, early 80s For color no, we had color in the 70s.
Speaker 1:We had color in the 70s 60s. We didn't have a form of currency or written language in the 70s, but we did have color television.
Speaker 3:In theory, television was invented in 1926.
Speaker 2:Okay, However it did not become popular like it wasn't common to have sure a tv until the 50s that's right, okay, yeah, 50s. So it was all radio well, and also it's probably expensive. I mean just like oh, that's for us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course you know freaking cds came out when cds came out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was that's crazy and we think that wasn't that long out it was.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. And when you think of that, that wasn't that long ago. Well, it was because Almost 100 years ago.
Speaker 2:I guess at this point right, because you know we're old.
Speaker 1:If you think about it, that was like 90 years ago-ish the 50s. Yeah, no, not the 50s, like the 30s. Like you know, 1939 is the 50s was 70 years ago 85. 1939 is the 50s is 70 years ago, 85 years ago. 85 years ago. That's crazy. That is crazy. There could very realistically be people alive still today who saw that, saw Wizard of Oz in theaters oh yeah, as a youngster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the fuck you saved up your.
Speaker 1:I want to talk to those people.
Speaker 4:I'd love to talk to those people. I just want to know what their experience was like.
Speaker 1:What would they remember? If they remember, can you tell me what was it like, seeing it was?
Speaker 2:1939. 1939?.
Speaker 1:And when they opened that door because it was still black and white and it was so cool how they did it because it was still black it was kind of like a sepia tone inside the house. Yes, and then when she To. Oz, it was like.
Speaker 2:But even the sepia tone was.
Speaker 1:That still had to have been something. Oh, this is. There's some color here. This is different, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then when the doors open, I can't even imagine their little eyeballs, Like the fuck.
Speaker 4:And it's like bright color, like when she comes out like this oh, it is like.
Speaker 1:It is like acid-tripping color. It gives me chills. Right, right, I have it too for them, because it's like that's so fun. It's like the only time you even see color like that now is like if you smoke a lot of weed. That's the only time that you see colors that never that bright and vivid anymore, like colors are just dull now, yeah, but yeah, it's just like, and then it's you know, we're the lollipop guild, we choose you and it's like all right, anyways, let's talk about star wars, shall we so? Tangent heroes on, not here, but uh, zero, so uh, we've unpacked all the little facts about that. Uh, the hunt for zero and his, so another. Do we talk about the chronology of it?
Speaker 1:like where it, where it takes place, it's just it's all over the place, so it's, it's fine, just watch the shows and it is really just all over the place.
Speaker 2:But it's before this and after that and then this.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, so hostage crisis evil plans and then hunt for zero. That's the order If you want to learn about plans, then hostage crisis. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because evil plans was prior to hostage christ, and I have. I have the notes right in front of me anyway, it's just that confusing it's just that confusing.
Speaker 1:So what was it in, in your opinion? What was it that? Because I think all of us really really like this episode, and it was an episode that was highly received, um, among critics when it came out. So what was it that you would say about this episode that made it probably one of the best episodes so far in this season? What are your, what are your thoughts, louis?
Speaker 4:why was this?
Speaker 3:um.
Speaker 4:I mean we'll stand out. For me, it's because characters like Zero also similar to like Hondo, I would say like these side characters that get introduced and they're likable side characters that you think that once you are introduced to them they're going to have some level of plot warmer so they can keep using them into the future. Right, I guess I just didn't think in my head that this was the end of Zero's time, let alone going out like a savage like that.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt, but for somebody who just said you didn't like the character of Short Round, did you just say that the character of Zero was likable?
Speaker 4:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm saying like when you're watching a show and a villain is not likable, but like, like the leader of the thuggy cult in Temple of Doom.
Speaker 4:I don't even remember what you're talking about because it's such a forgettable movie.
Speaker 1:I'll find it there it is. That's for you. I need a little amble please.
Speaker 2:A sharpie will do.
Speaker 1:A sharpie will do, but anyway, what did you?
Speaker 4:like.
Speaker 1:Go to the next person. You guys are picking on me, tony, so what was it that really kind of made this a standout episode for you?
Speaker 3:I think for me it was. I mean again, seeing Zero die was shocking, At least to happen in that fashion.
Speaker 1:The it was very much a lover's scorn.
Speaker 3:The outright character of Snoodles is just hilarious to me Just flat out.
Speaker 1:just, you didn't see it coming. We've only seen her on stage singing at Jabba's Palace. She's the one that killed Zero Right. She orchestrated all this character in this particular episode like holy shit, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like she even says it at the end like you know who would think that I could do a bounty hunter's job. It's like exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can do someone who looks like this so sherry. What about you? What, what kind of made this?
Speaker 2:uh, um, it just shows you a woman scorned. Fuck you up in the end, so maybe don't fuck up. There's that, yeah okay, message received.
Speaker 1:Heard roger that that's for everyone.
Speaker 4:Roger that yep but there was only one person you were looking at when you said that.
Speaker 3:Keep me safe.
Speaker 2:Oh, no one's safe. No, but for real, that's what I got out of it, because she really put it on. She sure did. I mean she. I didn't see it coming. No, I didn't, and I actually, to be honest, I forgot what he did to her. So once she mentioned it, I was like, oh shit, that's right, what a dick, yeah and, like you know, you think that he's playing her I did think he was playing her.
Speaker 4:I did not think he was gonna take her to the freaking holocron, whatever he got out, he would be done, but yeah I thought he'd dump her ass off yeah, but I mean, she must have thought that too, because she, she was a sweetie, she sauced him and he was just like but baby, right, she's like fuck you and she didn't just shoot one, she was like, yeah, she made sure she, she damn near mag dumped into a man.
Speaker 1:I mean holy crap.
Speaker 2:And then just a tongue hanging out. He was, he was tongued out. So sorry, man, quit fucking up, damn. But I do think it's funny that what's the Bonnie Hunter's name?
Speaker 1:Cad Bane.
Speaker 2:I think it's funny. He just was like, well damn, someone did my job. Yeah, it's funny, he just was like well damn, someone did my job yeah, he's like. I hate it when someone does my job for me so yeah, that was my, that was my and we know she got away with it she got away with 100.
Speaker 1:She's still in the movies she's still in the movies right, because, yeah, years later, yeah, she's still with java. Who knows what else. I want to see more. I want to see tales of size noodles now, because who knows what else she's done over the years. That might have been her, just her one moment, her big hurrah.
Speaker 2:She was mad and she took care of it.
Speaker 1:Damn, she took care of it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and I did like the new Jedi they introduced.
Speaker 1:Quinlan.
Speaker 2:Vos, I thought he was cool.
Speaker 4:We don't get enough of him.
Speaker 1:I'd love to see more of him. I don't think there's enough. I like the interaction between him and Obi-Wan.
Speaker 2:I thought that was pretty funny. It's like they were college roommates or some shit.
Speaker 4:That's how.
Speaker 2:I felt.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, this dude, I gotta wait for him. What did he say?
Speaker 3:He was like I wouldn't quite put it that way, he's more crazy.
Speaker 1:So when, when, when Obi-Wan is talking about that with some, you know, referring to somebody else, after serving with Anakin Skywalker for all this time and you call him, and you call Quinlan Vaughn crazy, although he did, I mean, you know that scene when they went to Mama's house and Obi-Wan was, like this, about to push the doorbell and Vos is like kick the door in. That was ridiculous, hey but it got the job done. I mean it got the job done.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he got the job done, but I liked him.
Speaker 1:He was very cool. Are we going to see him again? I hope so. Do we know if he survived Order 66?
Speaker 3:I actually did the research on this earlier. It's not definitive, okay, so he could still be out there. They don't say that he's dead, but they don't.
Speaker 1:All right Underutilized, very underutilized Jedi, I think.
Speaker 2:I think we need to bring him back. I like his force ability.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, that's really cool right, pick up some shit and like, oh yep, you were holding it. See, they didn't show that enough. No, I want them to explore that like. He's a character that I would actually like to see more yeah, and they gave.
Speaker 1:They gave a name to that and I can't remember. It's like psychic ability it is it's? It's some kind of a, it's some kind of a kinesis sort of thing, like something with an age like well, I feel like he's, because they see visions right.
Speaker 2:So all he's doing is he learned to tap into the force to touch something and get the essence of something off of it and then, and then get that sight.
Speaker 1:It's a very rare ability. It's hyper kinesis cognition what is it? Retro cognition, okay, so I thought that was very cool. That's a very cool ability. I'd love that ability just touch something and you know you fucked up so now I'm going to shoot you and leave you for dead on a distant planet I'm talking about people.
Speaker 1:And then they went to Teth, where apparently that's where they're burying huts. But teth is also the same planet from the the clone wars movie, where that big, where that monastery was, that big battle with that's where they found java's uh son. That's where stinky in the movie, in the, the animated film, oh, oh, they had to attack that monastery that was up on that, that high cliff. So they're, apparently there's a lot of hut related shit happening on teff I'm kind of.
Speaker 2:It's kind of cool with the mummified hut yeah, that was pretty cool. I mean, if you don't see that, in a halloween like right right mural type deal, I would totally have a hut I would cosplay that, I would.
Speaker 1:I would cosplay a mummified hut why not? I don't have to lose weight.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:To be super comfortable, I get to lay down the entire time.
Speaker 4:I'm cool with that, why not?
Speaker 1:So there's a lot going on on Teff. I thought Nar Shaddaa was cool. I'm sorry, nal Hutta, nar Shaddaa is a different planet, but Nal Hutta, I thought that that was cool. I think this is the first time we've ever seen that planet swamp world. I thought it was cool. It's interesting because, like the five families are of course, all, like you know, italian vibes, yeah, like you know gangsters, but then, like you're going through the swamps, they had like something that was very obviously like a fan boat. You know, yeah, mama sounded like she was on the bayou. You know, even even uh zero's got that little like southern new orleans type accent.
Speaker 2:So I think that was pretty cool. It was even like why is it zero's the only one that speaks? But is it basic?
Speaker 1:basic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, and then mama was speaking basic basic so I guess that's where zero learned it from maybe you just?
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm thinking the Hutts Can do it, they just choose not to.
Speaker 4:And that's very possible.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that's a sign of respect. Oh maybe To speak basic. So when you're not speaking it, you're just like I'm speaking my language. You listen to this translator droid? Yeah, like Jabba obviously understands it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:And I'm sure he can speak it. He might you get this Huttese bitch. That's what you get, or you get this protocol droid Fuck out of my house. Cad Bane Cad Bane in this episode handling his business, yeah, but that fight was epic, always, but it was. I mean he was handling two, two Jedi, very good Jedi, very strong Jedi Handling them, and this is why Cad Bane still holds the top slot as the greatest bounty hunter, I agree, living in existence in the Star Wars universe. Yes, there is no other bounty hunter better than him. Everyone's talking about Boba Fett, talk about Boba Fett all day long. Boba Fett got fucked up. He came back and he stopped being a bounty hunter, which is fine. He became the mayor of whoville and he was he chose?
Speaker 2:amazingly he chose peace.
Speaker 1:Guys come on I mean not exactly revenge. He had, I wouldn't exactly call it peace. He was still ruling with some a little bit of fear. I guess he was still a gangster, it wasn't? That bad but he wasn't. He wasn't the ruthless bounty hunter that he had been and then the disturbed the disturbed child that he was.
Speaker 1:And then yeah, no, and that's why cad bane is the best, because he remained a bounty hunter cad bane is just about the money like straight up right, which is why can you pay me, because if not, I'm out he was like yeah, I know where they're going, but if you don't want to know, that's fine too, I guess. And they're like no, no, no, no, no, no, we got you, we got you, mr bane.
Speaker 2:Here's some more credits so, yeah, that's why he's the best bounty hunter, because it's just.
Speaker 1:It literally is just about the money and I do feel that he does get about.
Speaker 2:He still has like the same rate of success as boba fett oh yeah about a 50, 50 I wouldn't say he doesn't suck, but he always, or he doesn't lose, but he lives to fight another day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he leaves, that's for sure he gets away. And he he's still got a fucking briefcase full of credits off the hud and they're trying to make another deal while he's holding it.
Speaker 2:he's's like well, while I'm here, I mean as long as I'm here.
Speaker 1:Why not? I mean, I might as well. So great episode, absolutely great episode. It was nice to see that. That was a hell of a way to start off too. So next episode, episode 10, heroes on Both Sides Very cool episode because we do get to see that. Heroes on both sides. Um, this episode features revamped appearances for several characters. Anakin and Obi-Wan are wearing less armor. Anakin's got a new hairdo, so his hair is a little bit longer. It's getting there. Oh, obi-wan's color, uh, was altered to more closely match Ewan McGregor's live action appearance, so his color changed a little bit. Ahsoka and Senator Coochie they debuted new outfits that are, you know, so they're quote unquote aged up. So we did see her wearing a more like teenage type outfit and we only see Senator Coochie like once. I think she's like they only show her like once inside the senate chamber, I think at that point, um and uh, also ahsoka's, her, her head, tails and montrails, the little horns on top.
Speaker 2:Everything is everything got a little bit longer she's older, she's a little, you can tell she bigger and she has two lightsabers now and she uh debuted the debut of ahsoka's shoto uh lightsaber.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, she got the the second one and, louis, you brought up an interesting point, um, while we were watching, you know, wondering where she got it. What's the story behind that?
Speaker 4:second lightsaber one time it was there and next time it wasn't and that's literally between.
Speaker 1:But this. This episode is just like in order. It doesn't take place before something or after something, and this is where it's supposed to be in the timeline.
Speaker 4:So it'll be interesting to see going forward. If there does end up being an episode thrown in that is a callback, I mean I'm assuming those characters will look like they did previously.
Speaker 1:Probably, and I would like to know that too like where I mean because she, she ends up using two lightsabers, like for the rest from now on, yeah, so I mean because why wouldn't you? And she's got such a badass style too that with with them, like holding them backwards, and oh, ahsoka's such a badass. So, um, and it's also the. The title, heroes on both sides, is a reference to the opening crawl of Revenge of the Sith. When it starts out, there are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere. So this was kind of a callback to that. A lot of political intrigue with this one, but it was still. There was a lot of action. We had the vacuum cleaner, droids.
Speaker 4:Those were pretty great.
Speaker 1:The vacuum cleaner battle droids. They were pretty great. The vacuum cleaner battle droids, they were pretty cool, wait what did you say, Tony? Transformers, the Transformers, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised they didn't have the sound, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Or something similar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know they can't use the actual Exactly, but they could do something similar.
Speaker 1:I mean, and can we for the wall of remembrance? Rest in peace to the entire maintenance team of second shift electric grid B, the night crew, because fuck they got.
Speaker 2:There was like eight of them.
Speaker 1:They got soft hard and those blasters were big barrel blasters, these weren't like little holdout pistol blasters and they got dumped on. I was like it wasn't like one shot, one kill, they got dumped on the 50 cows yes, so these joes? And then there was that one guy. He grabbed that holdout blaster from under and he, he, he tried trying. Brave soul, he must have mandalorian blood in him I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna take him as top top of the tier because he tried yeah I think, I think, when we feature them on the wall of remembrance, the whole crew, we need to make him like, like blaster guy, yeah, blaster guy, because man, he, I mean, that's brave, brave I mean, you knew you were gonna die there, come on but he's like you know what? I'm not going out like a punk he's got wife and kids at home hopefully they get his pension, hopefully they get something.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, pay right some kind of survivor's benefits.
Speaker 1:I don't know what. I don't know what is this republic? Yeah, it's the republic currently. So I don't know what. The health insurance? I like, I don't know. They have no money.
Speaker 4:I mean, maybe he got a life insurance. They have no money.
Speaker 1:That's true. They don't have money for some of these basic services because of the war. They're trying to refinance.
Speaker 4:He just lost his benefits yesterday.
Speaker 2:Yep, damn Yep, because that's when they were trying to pass the term, it was open renewal and he was like you know what?
Speaker 4:I need to save some money next day.
Speaker 1:Now the wife and kids are going to be on the streets. They're going to be working in a cantina somewhere dancing for that money. Mama will be. Mama's going to be dancing for that money. Hopefully she's a Twi'lek so she can get that extra. I don't know.
Speaker 4:I don't know about those kids. Everybody likes the Twi'lek.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know about those kids. I don't know about those kids because we all know how Star Wars hates kids.
Speaker 2:And they're like stop, oh man.
Speaker 1:So that was a very, very interesting episode and even though it was like a political episode, it wasn't really boring. No, I didn't think so.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't boring. I'm trying't think so. No, it wasn't boring, I'm trying to think what else happened? There's a lot.
Speaker 1:There was a lot going on but remember they were trying to, they were trying to pass that bill no, I know that yeah to uh, to just stop the deregulation of the banks, yeah, but then you've got you know the banking clan guys and you've got you know these other, these other, two idiots.
Speaker 3:We also got Padme traveling across borders.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To meet a separatist? Yeah, to meet her separatist friend.
Speaker 2:I mean, it did work initially. I feel bad.
Speaker 1:It, did it, absolutely did, she got her to do it in her.
Speaker 2:Senate as well. So I thought that was. That was cool.
Speaker 1:But you know, warmongering man, I know, and there was a little, there was a little uh, a little bit of a of a love connection with the soca love connection no, no, no, not between padme and her friend soca.
Speaker 1:No, soca, no, that's between padme and duchess sateen, that's, you know a couple. No, I think that was mentor, mentee sort of thing. But guys, now, padme, if she's gonna, you know, if she dare speaks, the love that has no name, it's gonna be with satine, like for sure. If she's yeah, if she's going true, if she's going uh, curious, it's gonna be with, uh, with satine anyway. I mean, her heart will always be with anakin and I'm pretty sure that Satine's heart will always be with Obi. But Ahsoka learned a lesson.
Speaker 2:She did learn a lesson About the other side. She did. There's always two sides to a story.
Speaker 1:So, let's, let's talk about that. So, like you know, up to this point we have just seen the separatist portrayed as Dooku Ventress. All the, you know, all the bad, all the bad guys, yeah, you know, and but what about all the people that just want to live their lives?
Speaker 1:live their lives right and they think that the jedi and the republic are bad and corrupt. And we even see that with anakin. Anakin says there is no corruption in the republic, there is no corruption among the Jedi, and Padme kind of blasted him and said well, even the side eye. Yeah, and she said that's why you're not speaking to any of these people Come on Ahsoka, let's go Ahsoka.
Speaker 2:like you're not training, come on.
Speaker 1:Ahsoka, let's go. I'm going to teach you some things.
Speaker 2:And then got mad after they came back.
Speaker 1:Shut fool yeah, go to your. And ahsoka called him out. She said you would do the same thing. You have done the same thing, but you went too far this time. Ah, really, you've done the same.
Speaker 2:You killed people.
Speaker 1:Calm down dude so what do you, what do you guys think then about you know our? Is there enough? Do you think there? Know, we do see that there's people on both sides that don't want war, but is it enough on the separatist side to to help in any way?
Speaker 3:I don't think so. I think the biggest issue is this is this set of episodes here? Is this set of episodes? Here is definitely one where you can absolutely see Palpatine's tendrils in every one, oh yeah. And as much as he has his tendrils on the Republic side, it's even more so on the Separatist side. So I mean, it almost doesn't matter how many people.
Speaker 1:Because Dooku's able to work directly for Palpatine, out in the open, I guess, with the separatists.
Speaker 3:Yeah, although that being said, it was a very interesting thing to me that you have Dooku in this episode saying we're going to follow the tenets of our democracy. You guys voted this way. I'll go ahead and send it over and the ayes had it.
Speaker 1:And then, in the same episode, you see palpatine say well, for now we will let this go right. And and I think that was in the second episode, or was it the first one, it was in one of the, because we had that two-parter with the pursuit of peace, yeah, um, which is what we saw, uncle iroh, uncle uno, uno, yeah, it's like he was, he was tongues out before, but again, this is a throwback, you know so, correct? But um, so we see, we see palpatine break character for a second. He's like how is it that one person can have all the power in the galaxy and the voice of one senator can sway millions? He was mad, oh, he was real mad. He was pissed. Papa Palpy was big mad.
Speaker 3:But after that he took a breath and he was like it's alright for now.
Speaker 1:We'll let the wheels turn. We'll let the wheels turn. We'll let the wheels turn. I mean, he's.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, it was a breaking character for a split second.
Speaker 2:I just don't think he can see her, but he got control Like he can't. I don't think he sees her future for some reason. You know, yeah, he might not be able to. I don't think he can. I think she does have a little force, sensitivity. She's got a little force in her. No, I'm not talking about Anakin, I'm talking about just her. I'm just saying, as a queen, she had to have something.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying the way that she drove that speeder bike when she was escaping from the bounty hunter. Of course, yeah, she's got a lot of.
Speaker 2:The way she manipulates the Senate and not manipulates, but is able to speak and so kind of give away a little bit. I mean, I know, do you not?
Speaker 1:think that, while her and Anakin are engaging in intimate mommy daddy time, that some of his midi-chlorians aren't being absorbed by her midi-chlorians?
Speaker 4:Man Do midi-chlorians work that way. That doesn't work that way transferred from one being to another.
Speaker 1:It's not a freaking disease? Midichlorians we know that they are living beings that reside in all other living transferred from. Why?
Speaker 4:couldn't they?
Speaker 1:oh my god I mean, if some of his midichlorians are shooting into her, okay, and he's just like he's and they would just, they would just if.
Speaker 4:If you is that could literally transfer midichlorians from one being to another, then why would they not just knock Anakin out and drain his midichlorians?
Speaker 1:Maybe they don't know how that works. I mean, they, they have a really like mythological view of midichlorians, you know, and we heard Qui-Gon's explanation of it.
Speaker 4:But over the years they hadn't picked up. To hey, when this Jedi Stoops this.
Speaker 1:But remember, they don't Now all of a sudden, but they're not allowed to, they're not allowed, they're not allowed to stoop Right.
Speaker 4:There's no way.
Speaker 1:Anakin is the first stoop. Ki-adi-mundi Ki-Adi-Mundi does. Well, he's got different levels of midichlorians. Everybody does. Some of them have a little bit more, some of them have a little less, some of them are more tuned Like Anakin has so much that he has some extra to give.
Speaker 2:Well, he was born of midichlorians.
Speaker 1:Right, but no, it's not true. We don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think that it's implausible to think that he's transmitting some of his midichlorian count.
Speaker 3:My brain is just going to a very dumb place. He said something about why don't they just knock him out and drain out all of it. My brain just went to Austin Powers.
Speaker 1:Like the Sturgeons Stole my mojo. Or the Sturgeons where Stole my mojo. Or the Sturgeons where they're just like extracting the oh, not the Sturgeons again Extracting the caviar, yeah.
Speaker 4:Then they could just take those Metachlorians, put them in other beings to make them stronger.
Speaker 2:But we know they're trying to.
Speaker 4:Puppeteen could make like an army of super soldiers with.
Speaker 2:But that is what he's trying to do with, like Grogu, and we know he's trying to do that.
Speaker 1:So he's trying to get DNA that way. But you're saying like if he could just subdue Anakin, just milk Anakin for his midichlorians.
Speaker 2:Because the technology's not built yet.
Speaker 1:And then what would he do? Would he just like spread the midichlorians on his? Chest and put some behind his ear.
Speaker 4:I mean, if you can transfer down the hatch, if he knew a way to transfer midichlorians from one being to another, you don't think that he would literally suck the midichlorians.
Speaker 2:But at that time, at that time every Jedi he could. He's just sucking Jedi up in Jedi. He's just running around like.
Speaker 1:Give me that midichlorian. He's like doing like a midichlorian bukkake session. Bring the Jedi to me. I'm going to suck them dry. Your force will be mine, young Jedi.
Speaker 2:So that's enough of those two episodes, I guess. I'm telling you, I'm talking about when Grogu goes into that machine. Yeah, and they start taking his fucking midichlorians. We know it happens. They're taking his blood.
Speaker 1:They're taking his blood and his DNA, but maybe that's not enough, maybe that's not, you know, maybe they need to like he's a baby, he's 50. He's a baby Everybody calm down. For his species. Maybe that's still not age of consent. I mean he's still I mean on Coruscant, it's 18. So I mean I don't know what to tell you. Grogu, you're 50. We're in Vegas, so I when in Coruscant, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I think we need to explore this. The rails are right here. We are Over here.
Speaker 1:They started the sucking rail not me, is that the one you wanted? You got the crickets. I did Alright, that's good. I feel like we needed there we go. I wasn't good at.
Speaker 2:Simon, either with the colors.
Speaker 1:I'll label them tomorrow, it's fine, okay, no, you won't. No, I won't. The buttons I'll label them tomorrow, it's fine, okay, no, you won't. No, I won't, I won't, I won't. So those were even. Those were two political episodes. They both turned out pretty good. It was a nice little story arc.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was good stuff. So finally, talking about the next episode, episode 12, nightsisters, which chronologically comes after the Senate Mur murders episode, is that right? 70, 80, 90. Yeah, okay, no, that's not right. Anyway. So with this one I'm trying to look at like make my my notes here Correct, which they are not currently. So with this we're getting like a really nice insight into Asajj and how she was, like she had a rough life Well, so I mean from her childhood, I mean it wasn't rough.
Speaker 2:She was taken because she was for sensitive. She was taken away for that yeah which is fine, but not by the Jedi. Not by the Jedi. I thought the Nightsisters did that on purpose. I think that yes.
Speaker 4:I think that they were like here's this baby, take her away, because we don't want her to be taken by the Jedi.
Speaker 3:We know what happened the last time Jedi got around witches. That's right, but I didn't realize that I guess I to be taken by the Jedi. We know what happened the last time Jedi got around witches.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 4:But I didn't realize that. I guess I didn't realize that she was once a Jedi. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really didn't either.
Speaker 2:I thought there was another backstory to her. Maybe there is. Is there another backstory for her?
Speaker 1:No, this is canon this is it I?
Speaker 4:didn't realize it. I thought that was cool. That means that at some point in time in her life she was exposed to the good side of the Force. You can see it in her flashbacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but because of what happened to her it was like an Anakin type of deal, because her master that first one he died and apparently he treated her okay Because I mean she was another one of those brain, those brain head assholes.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the name of the species might not have been an asshole to her, though.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right so yeah, so he was probably keeping her safe and then the fight happened and he died and then she kind of like inside like an Anakin like my so her first Jedi, and then that that master died.
Speaker 1:Right. So she's only known loss, and that took her Over the edge Over the edge.
Speaker 2:Just that one loss Right.
Speaker 4:I'm wondering how long it was. That was probably the first relationship that she's had with anybody that's lasted more than a short time, yeah. And now he's basically said get out. Yeah, that's got to be crushing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for somebody who has been abandoned their whole life yeah, for somebody who has been abandoned their whole life and and I'm sure that on some level, like psychologically and emotionally, for her he was also a father figure yeah, you know in some way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was fighting. I mean that, when she, when her master got killed, she was young which one?
Speaker 1:the first guy? No, her jedi, master, jedi.
Speaker 2:She had to be 14, 15?, mm-hmm. Well, what was she doing this whole?
Speaker 1:time when he grabbed her, she looked to be probably about eight or nine, maybe about the same age as Anakin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying when he died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was probably in her teens, well into her teens.
Speaker 2:And so that put her over the edge.
Speaker 1:She killed people, people, and after that, that was it. Do we think that she was? Um, maybe she hid, maybe was she trained secretly, because there's no way the jedi council would have approved her for training at that age. There's no way they would have let this jedi take her on as an apprentice.
Speaker 1:It could have been a secret so she might have been trained secretly. Or maybe he was like a from a splinter cell, like an offshoot of a jedi. Maybe he left the jedi order, went out on his own because the council would never have approved that yeah, maybe they only let jedi or let anakin do it, because he was supposedly the chosen one but I don't know why she'd want to kill jedi after her master got killed.
Speaker 2:Maybe she just blamed everyone?
Speaker 1:I think there's more to the story yeah, there's yeah, I think there's more to the story, because obviously it wasn't the jedi that killed either of her masters. No, it was the weak way both times yeah so it's like maybe move somewhere that doesn't have weak way, because like clearly that's a bad neighborhood, like wherever that is um so pirates I guess the weak way are just basically pirates, you know I do like the night sisters took her in.
Speaker 2:I love the night sisters.
Speaker 1:I think they're they took her back. Wonderful, yeah, I mean this was, and they're very strong on the force, but they don't even call it the force, they don't, it's just the magic because?
Speaker 2:are they using force? Because I mean she has like choking and all this, like those girls didn't that she was with, so they're just using magic yeah, they might not have been trained maybe they call it magic different abilities within the force, it's the force, but they don't call it the force because they don't see it as that.
Speaker 4:See it that way they use know differently because they don't. They don't use it, they are it. I think. Yeah, they embrace the force differently than I think jedi and sith do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think they see it in the absolute terms that the jedi and sith do. So they're, although they're a little bit, they lean a little bit dark. I think that they're probably more of that middle ground between I think they could be neutral jedi and which we know that from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the acolyte, the acolyte.
Speaker 1:It's like they just want to be left in peace to do their thing but if you fuck with them, right, that's your ass.
Speaker 2:You don't knock on their door, you just break in bust in their house while they're having a party right a birthday party for their kids yeah the fuck.
Speaker 1:So it's very interesting. It's very interesting to see the development of of asajj, I think you know like, and because she, when we do see her on that separatist ship, um, she, she choked out, she was choking out anakin and obi-wan. She would have killed them and you could see she was pissed like.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that was a. That was I'm pissed off and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 2:I want to cry right now, but I'm going to kill motherfuckers instead.
Speaker 1:I mean. I mean that because you felt that I mean you know when you saw that in her eyes I was like yeah, damn it Because sometimes you get so angry you cry instead of murdering people.
Speaker 2:Yes, right.
Speaker 1:Yes, so angry you cry instead of murdering people. Yes, right, yes. And how cool is that? That you were able to see that, relate to that and and recognize that in in the facial expressions of a cartoon character. I mean, what is a good job?
Speaker 2:they did a great job because as soon as he said you're gonna die, her poor face was just like you, mother.
Speaker 1:She was crushed, fucker, yeah, and then pissed off, and then yeah, because how long was she on her own after her jedi master died? I don't know.
Speaker 2:She had to be at least a teen 14, 15 and then when he went, when she went to dooku in her, she was in her 20s right yeah maybe, so she was doing something because I don't know how old she was during the clone wars.
Speaker 1:Right lore master, keeper of the holocron I'm looking it up, but what? Are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:careful how I do this, because I'm somewhat familiar with a little bit of asajj's longer history and I don't want to familiarize myself too much with it.
Speaker 1:Just ask how old she was during the Clone Wars. Probably in her 30s, I don't know. Think older. I don't know how old I would think younger. It was cool to see her with hair. It was cool to see her with hair.
Speaker 4:It was very cool. I do too, but I thought the hair was a little comb over right you should see the picture.
Speaker 3:I'm looking at her right now like I do.
Speaker 1:I do like how she has like this vampiric, this vampiric, look to her like that and her like she kind of looks like the vampires from Buffy the Vampire Slayer yes, oh, the old the old vampires like when their noses get all wrinkly and everything. Yeah, so massage. I feel bad for her.
Speaker 1:She's another one that was manipulated manipulated and, like I don't even want to say that, she fell to the dark side. I think she was just looking for a side and she was lost and she stumbled upon dooku in a dark alley, metaphorically speaking. Yeah and uh, he used her, but it was interesting to see that he didn't want to do it. He didn't, he didn't seem to want to do it.
Speaker 2:But anakin is the same he does. He does things for him once he becomes who he becomes, and he doesn't want to do it, but he does it and I think, I think dooku is thinking of like overall, the greater good.
Speaker 1:He feels that lord sidious is going to be the one to restore balance and and the corruption, because that's the hustle that he's run on dooku. So he's like, if I have to sacrifice my favorite apprentice in order to restore sanity to the galaxy, but the needs of the many lying to Palpatine about what he he asked him.
Speaker 2:Is this your apprentice?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:He said no, she's just my favorite assassin. She's my favorite assassin and that's bullshit, cause he did tell her you I will make you my apprentice.
Speaker 1:And he said. He said she's very important to me yes, that was very stuff about. That was telling, so I think I think I did.
Speaker 4:He like snapped at him. He's like I don't give a shit. Yeah, you didn't do it. You need to kill this, you need to take her out.
Speaker 1:He immediately was like yes yes, master, fearsome, and that was it, and it's like, and I don't think dooku could take him out, but I think dooku could I think him and ventress could take him out if he would not have betrayed her, I think.
Speaker 2:I think if he would have kept her hidden and trained her, they could have took palpatine out together the, the pair of them?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't think so because she's still raw.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying keep her secret though from Palpatine, and he could do it.
Speaker 1:He could, yeah, he could. He's kept other secrets from Papa Palpy, correct, correct. But now we've got the Nightsisters saying you know we're going to help you out. We're going to give you a mail this time.
Speaker 2:And there is no, they don't, they don't have men, where are they getting these dudes? Or is it going to be her change?
Speaker 1:Are they going to transform her?
Speaker 2:Because there is no males that. I know for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know. Maybe I mean, if there is maybe they keep them in pods somewhere or something. Maybe those are those big hairy testicle things that we saw hanging down on the planet, I mean when, when they landed. There are these big old bulbous pod things just full of water or full of dudes, maybe it's that's how we're gonna do it right, right, just just force.
Speaker 2:Dudes just hanging out that's how we're gonna do. Do it Right, just force dudes just hanging out. That's how we're going to do it. There you go, keep our men in pause.
Speaker 1:Keep them in pause, damn, all right. You know what. I'm not going to get on your bad side Any more than I already am, I suppose. All right, so that is a wrap. What are we thinking about these four episodes? I think they're really good, all four of them? Yeah, agreed, yeah, absolutely. So what are our predictions coming up? I mean, we've got.
Speaker 2:Would you find something?
Speaker 3:I haven't. I'm looking everywhere for it. She does not actually have her own page on Wikipedia.
Speaker 1:Asajj doesn't have her own page. I'm not able to find it.
Speaker 3:That is rude.
Speaker 1:No, that can't be.
Speaker 3:I mean I agree, able to find it that is rude. Um no, that can't be.
Speaker 2:I mean I agree with you, but I mean, it's not there.
Speaker 3:If I'm going to google and I'm typing, it's not as french as wikipedia and it's not giving me a result. Wow, all right. Um. However, I did find something interesting what's that? Uh, so we were talking about, you know, we started this talking about, uh know, the changeover from black and white to color, and I was trying to think, in comparison for, like my life, what would be the most mind blowing thing. And the first thing I thought was the first time I saw a 3D movie. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3:Like that might be interesting. But that took me down a little bit of a rabbit hole. Do you know? The first 3D movie came out before the first color movie no, I did not know that.
Speaker 1:What was it?
Speaker 3:pull it back up it was in black and white. Uh, yeah, black and white. But 3d movie, okay, uh, came out in 1922 called the Power of Love.
Speaker 2:Oh, I guess that would be easier, maybe with the glasses. Yeah, because you've got and you don't have the color to.
Speaker 3:To worry about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of like a, like a light bright sort of not light bright but what you know, those things that they used to have back in the day like a kaleidoscope, no, the oh my god, it was the red thing that you would put the little round picture discs in and like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're talking about. Those did have.
Speaker 1:Those were kind of 3D right, those were kind of 3D.
Speaker 2:You would click it and it would look like it was right there. Oh my God, we had them as kids.
Speaker 4:So Ventress was born in 50 BBY. Viewmaster.
Speaker 1:Viewmasters yeah, yeah, I've got that. She was born in 50 BBY.
Speaker 4:And there is something called night brothers all right, don't look up too much. Don't look up, don't look up all right, so 50 bby all right where are we at right now we are, uh, 21 bby, 22by.
Speaker 1:This particular episode, I believe, was. I think we're at like 20 BBY she's about 30. So she's about 30 years old. Okay, I haven't been keeping track of that. I haven't been keeping track of the BBY. I need to keep doing that. I've got to do it this time. So predictions for our next round. So we've got you said there's some Night Brothers maybe coming up.
Speaker 4:I mean that's, I don't know. I literally just read all right, so that's interesting.
Speaker 1:We know there's gonna be some dudes, so I don't know the. Night Bros. Hmm, I have a theory, but I already know what's going to happen. I already know, what's going to happen? It's going to start getting really good.
Speaker 2:I know I was like damn, it's going to get better. These last four were pretty intense.
Speaker 1:These last eight episodes were actually pretty good. Season three. Season three is going to be good to us. It's going to keep being good to us, so that's going to do it. Do we have anything else? Anyone have anything else? I don't have any predictions.
Speaker 2:No, nothing.
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