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Skeleton Crew: Review-Episode 4

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Join us as we journey into the depths of Star Wars: "Skeleton Crew," season 1, episode 4, and reveal the uncanny parallels with the Fallout universe. There's an undeniable connection between these worlds and the eerily similar suburban communities of the 80s, evoking thoughts of experimental societies. We also speculate on the lingering shadows of Palpatine over the Great Work.

We delve into the dynamic character arcs that define this chapter, particularly focusing on Jod's blend of moral ambiguity and loyalty, reminiscent of the roguish charm of Jack Sparrow and Han Solo. Neil and Fern's growth under pressure paints a compelling picture of young leaders grappling with unforeseen challenges. Melding Star Wars' enduring themes of courage with fresh character insights, this episode provides a rich exploration of morality and leadership in a galaxy teetering on the edge of chaos. Our nerdy analysis captures the essence of these character-driven stories, reflecting on the evolving roles of our young heroes as they confront their fears and rise to new challenges.

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Speaker 1:

a hey welcome to Skeleton Crew Review. I'm Tommy D and pilot of the infamous Parma Flyer. It's Crash, How's it going?

Speaker 2:

Great S-foil's locked and ready to roll, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

There you go. I like to hear that. All right, so of course, cameras already being wonky. So Skeleton Crew, season 1, episode 4. All right, so, of course, cameras already being wonky. So skeleton crew, season one, episode four crash. I have, I have questions, I have theories. There's so much like there's so much, and I I don't even know where to start. I just I'm just staring down the barrel of this, this huge list of of things here in front of me, and I, uh, I don't know where to start. I guess we'll start at the beginning, huh yeah, might as well.

Speaker 2:

All right, let's just throw the you know the star wars goonies thing out the window. Like we're going places with this show, I think besides just a remake of an 80s movie, you know, there's some depth to this show now one thing now.

Speaker 1:

Some people may or may not get this, but so we learned about. Last episode kim told us about what was it? The jewels, the jewels of the republic planet, I think that's what it was. So these six planets that, for whatever reason, were hidden. We don't, we haven't discovered that yet and I'm looking forward to finding out why. Um, so we found out about those things and after seeing at akron this week, the thing that instantly popped into my brain was vault tech. I had mentioned that before how stuff was feeling a little vault techie. So if you, if you're familiar with fallout um, for those of you that are watching or listening, if any of you are familiar with fallout um, you get it. If you're not, um, you know, briefly, the whole premise of the fallout games and now the tv series.

Speaker 1:

Post-apocalyptic wasteland bombs dropped, people went into these vaults to uh, escape the you know, apocalyptic nuclear hellfire, only to re-emerge in some cases hundreds of years later. But the company that put these together vault tech. It's theorized that they actually engineered the war in order to sell space in the vault. But then also there were dozens of vaults. Each vault had a separate experiment going on inside of it. So some, some vaults. I think there was like one vault where it was just nothing, nothing was happening. It was allowed to just kind of go on its own. But then others had very specific things going on in them and if anyone's going to get into the lore of Fallout I don't want to ruin anything. But again, there were several dozen vaults and each one had kind of like their own experiment.

Speaker 1:

I was getting those vibes here. It's like all right. So we know at atton is the utopia, but like all utopias, it's a flawed utopia. I'm sure there's going to be some some sinister underbelly, but then we see at akron and this is the war world. This is clearly the opposite of the utopia and I'm like oh, this each. I feel like that's where the kids are going now. In order to get back home, we're going to have to hit the other four planets now and we have four episodes left.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and, and that's I the thing that struck me most, other than the fact that now I spent two, three weeks learning how to say at Atten Now we got Akron at Cuyahoga Falls at Kent. For us Ohio people, you'll get the joke.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

It's interesting that the planets are nearly identical. The planets are nearly identical and I liked how, when they go to Neil's house, or what would have been Neil's house on his world, the first thing they notice is that the tree has grown bigger than they are. It's like walking into a replica of your home and going wait a minute, everything's slightly different. I agree there's going to be a bit of duplication involved. There might be like alternate experimental communities, which is this a commentary on suburbia in the 80s, where everybody was making copycat neighborhoods in the suburbs. You know, know, cookie cutter developments, Right, who knows? But that's an interesting way of you know, and I love how the kids' first reaction was. Did we travel in time Like in the story you know? Did we, you know, like Buck Rogers in the original movie? You know he is frozen and comes back to his homeland, but it's, you know, years later, Right?

Speaker 1:

I love that. The first reaction was like was like, wait, maybe this is home and we're just older, right. So I, I wasn't really expecting I was, I was hoping that they wouldn't do that, because I I love star trek, but I hate time travel. I I feel like, I feel like I I share that with all of the other captains, except maybe Archer. I think Archer was cool with time travel. I don't know, but I, I'm a I'm a Voyager fan. Janeway hated time travel and she hated all of that but the temporal anomalies. So I was really hoping that they weren't going to do that in star wars and they didn't. So I'm I'm glad for that, I'm glad that we got to see that. Yeah, um. So one thing that also popped into my head we, you know, on our other show, star wars, safe space.

Speaker 1:

Uh, we talk about palpatine's influence in everything, especially now that we're talking about the clone wars. So this popped into my brain too. I don't want to ask you crash, okay, do you think I? At this point? We know that we are in the new republic mandalorian era. We know that. So papa palpy is no longer with us in person now. Publicly, papa palpy is not with us, but, as we find out, he's, he's lurking, he's, he's still around somewhere, um, at during his era when, when palpatine was, uh, was alive and kicking, that he was aware of these jewels and if so, was he involved in some way in their creation? Was he kind of like the? Was he the architect, or was he maybe seeking them out? Or was he just a hundred percent aware and or unbothered? What do you think?

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I think this is what we and we've talked. We've talked about this on the other show, where I think if he's not directly involved in something, he has a hand in it. He has other people doing his dirty work with it. I found it interesting that for at at being the hidden world, the Atlantis, the Eldorado of these worlds, that At-Akron is out there and they trade with the outside world. Like the guy said, we just trade our hides and stuff for bullets. Basically, I noticed a lot of repeated props. You saw the helmets on some of those guys.

Speaker 1:

Mud Troopers.

Speaker 2:

He had the goggles, he had the Mud Trooper goggles and the helmet. And the tank looked like a very early Trade Federation early model tank, which kind of makes me believe this experiment. Whatever this is, again, as we've talked in past episodes of this, I think this predates the prequel trilogy as far as their isolation, which would explain why they have older tech, and now that there's one of the worlds is, shall we say, out of the bubble.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're getting scraps, they're getting scraps for trade because we got to see the, the orbit.

Speaker 1:

We didn't get to see this with at, at, and, but we got to see that, that, that barrier defense network. It's obviously non-operational now, but we, so we can assume that there's something similar around at, at, and which creates that barrier and keeps, keeps the planet in the. But we, so we can assume that there's something similar around at Atten which creates that barrier and keeps, keeps the planet in the bubble. So, but and that but. That just leads to more questions Like how did? How did they go offline? How long have they been offline? How long have they been known to the rest of the galaxy? You know it wasn't. You know Smee didn't have his, didn't have at akron purged from his memory. So you know he was like.

Speaker 2:

I know it well, I've been here before argh whatever, yeah, so so I so many questions, yeah, and, and the best part is, I don't like. I like the fact that they're not answering everything right away. They're leaving some stuff unanswered for us to pull us along and make us want to go. Theories are fun for a while and then when you give me a little bit school, like, as Neil said, having a weapon built in, does that mean that at Atten's building is also armed? But maybe the locals don't know because, yeah, they never kept up.

Speaker 1:

There's been no need for it.

Speaker 2:

There's been no need for it. Nobody knows how to access that um, which could become interesting later on.

Speaker 1:

I I feel with uh neil and the kids seeing another version of their home right that can this is that version that the adults try to keep very well hidden on ad aton. But I I agree with you. I believe that the school on ad aton more than likely has that sort of giant orbital type of cannon built into it, or they're probably all over the planet as a secondary line of defense. I'm thinking every single planet is set up identically. So we got that from the kids. The kids said, hey, that looks just like the supervisor tower, that looks like where my mom works. This is the pool. So everything is set up. And the house that they went to, it was a very similar mural wall. You couldn't really make a lot of it. I paused it like 27 times, but they made sure we didn't get a good look at it. There was they. They made sure we didn't get a good look at it. Um, so there's it's. It's going to be interesting to see how these parallels are going to play out. You know, as we move forward and I'm sure the kids are going to start piecing it all together because they're going to go to the next planet and they're going to see the similarities there and they're going to see the similarities there and they're going to start putting the pieces together.

Speaker 1:

And I also found it interesting when the Onyx Cinder was coming in, it switched over to autopilot and then Smee disengaged yeah, he did the override on it. So I'm curious, where was it going? It knew where it wanted to go, because I don't think that it was anything planetside that grabbed it. It wasn't like a tractor beam or it wasn't anything planetside, because otherwise Smee wouldn't have been able to override it. So he was able to override it locally, which leads me to believe that that ship was going somewhere. Something was plugged into the autopilot to send it somewhere. Maybe coordinates for at atten. But of course, if all these worlds, you know, mirror each other, then it's possible that wherever it landed, wherever it wanted to, wherever the ship wanted to land on at akron, it would potentially land in that same spot on at atten which makes you wonder how it ended up in the woods.

Speaker 2:

An event, and I'm assuming, bear it couldn't be on that long, but you know how did it crash? Land on one planet, if it was pre-programmed for a destination on an identical world, was something overridden. Did somebody pull the plug on the autopilot track that it was on and that's what caused it to crash into the woods. Because, yeah, who knows?

Speaker 1:

We're going to find out, because the Onyx Cinder was buried for a long time. Yeah, for a while. I mean it had trees growing on top of it, so it's potentially over 100 years. That thing was buried um, which would get us somewhere between the aclyte and the prequel trilogy, if we're talking about that old. And then when we see the Supervisor's Tower on Ad Akron, that was some thick layers of dust on all of the coordinates. I mean no one's been in there for a while.

Speaker 2:

And all of it going up to poor Neil's snout.

Speaker 1:

All of it going up, poor Neil's sn's snout, all of it going up, poor neil's snout. And and john said something interesting. He said the planet tastes like dust and ash, like my home world. So now, where are you from, john? Who the hell are you? How did you do the jedi stuff? I need to know, you know it's killing me.

Speaker 2:

I. I think it was just sort of self-taught. He wanted that thing where, like I don't know how to sail, I'll just concentrate, practice, meditate.

Speaker 1:

But he had to get it from somewhere. I mean, because people in the galaxy, they know of Jedi, but unless they do happen to have a higher midichlorian count, they'll pretend all day to use the force and nothing's going to happen. You know, because, of course, what kid you know doesn't want to be a jedi? You know, they're the knights, you know, of course you know who doesn't want to be a knight and go on adventures and things like that. So I I'm still leaning towards padawan with him, the age it could be.

Speaker 2:

He could have been a youngling, even with just the basic level of training, and we know some people escaped. We know some Jedi were helping younglings escape. It's quite possible a low-level kid escaped the temple. How did Kanan Jarrus survive after he got know?

Speaker 1:

got separated.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you find, you find a way to make a living. If it's piracy, oh well what if?

Speaker 1:

what if jod is the little boy, who, the little youngling who's like Master Skywalker? There's too many of them. What are you going to do? What if that Jod and he somehow escaped? Because I don't think, obviously we don't ever see Anakin slaughter children, but I'm pretty sure he probably, he probably force pushed that kid and maybe he tumbled over a chair or something and and then Anakin goes. I want that to be it too much away.

Speaker 2:

You know, we know for in in Kenobi, yeah, he stabbed Reiva in the belly and left her. She played dead. So it's not unheard of. It's probably low-level, unlikely. I'm going to do my K2SO for a moment. Do you want to know the odds of that happening? It's low. It's very low.

Speaker 1:

So unfortunately, as we've also learned with Star Wars, the only person who dies from a gut shot is is qui-gon. Apparently everybody else is good. Everybody else who gets stabbed in the gut is okay. Everyone else pulls through, riva pulls through, um sabine pulls through, it's okay. But qui-gon, qui-gon just gave up the ghost just with that one, that one poke. It wasn't even a good one, it wasn't even a good poke. He's like, I mean, and the wound cauterizes. He, he gave up the force ghost on purpose. I think that's anyway. That's a whole other show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we ain't got time for that one.

Speaker 1:

We ain't got time. We talked about the Imperial gear, we talked about the autopilot. We got to see the softer side of Jod a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I liked him in this episode. We were going back and forth about who is he. I think this was more of a Jod being himself. Maybe not Captain Silva, maybe not Crimson Jack. As I said, I think a lot of that are personas that people in his profession like Nobody gives their real name at the bar. I think now this partnership he's proposing he knows he's kind of trying to be on the level because he still wants to find treasure. If these kids are from the, you know he's got it kind of trying to be on the level because he wants. You know he still wants to find treasure. You know, if these kids are from the, you know the mythical planet of that and it's like okay, look, I got a fairly decent thing going here. Um, and I think we're starting to see a little bit more of his generous side, his compassionate side, his friendlier side, than when he was was a pirate captain, you know, raiding ships for a living right, but what is it?

Speaker 1:

is it and that's what I wanted to ask too is it a soft side, is it the soft side of of jodna nawood, or is he just playing the game to win their trust? He's like, oh, I, I need, I need the kids come with me. Oh, hugs, let's hug everybody, but he's still a murdering bastard. I mean, he, he's a maybe, maybe not by his, although he was. He was straight up trying to sauce kim, he, he was. He was trying to take Kim out.

Speaker 2:

Was he, you know, I mean he shot the computer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean he was firing at her and he sent our Republic captain out the airlock in the first episode.

Speaker 2:

When he was a professional pirate. I'm sure he's done some bad things. Han Solo has done some bad things. I'm sure he's done some bad things.

Speaker 1:

Han.

Speaker 2:

Solo has done some bad things, I'm sure, before he met Luke and Ben.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Han is a murdering bastard as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I think, like I said, is it 100% sincere? Maybe, maybe not, we'll find out, but it was interesting to see him actually taking an active role. But you know he's honoring the partnership because it benefits him exactly and you know the kids get.

Speaker 2:

You know, if the kids get killed on this planet, you know, because they stumbled into the wrong camp, he gets nothing. I love that moment when he gets captured and he's, you know, he's like, oh, just shoot me. Like there comes a point where you're just like, oh, the hell with it.

Speaker 1:

But again, like we talked about before, he's you can't. You can't help but see the parallels between him and Jack Sparrow. You know he's once again looking for the opportune moment. He had he had been, he had been in that cell on what is it? Borgo? Is that the name of the yeah, the pirate asteroid? He was in that cell for a very long time. I mean, judging off of the manner of his clothing, he'd been in there for a while. So he, he, he can wait. He knows how to be patient, he knows, knows how to bide his time, he knows what he needs to do, um, in order to survive.

Speaker 2:

He's waiting for the opportune moment I mean, he was going through the kids stuff and he found the money and he kept a little of it and, yes, he used it to help them out of a jam that was nasty, by the way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was nasty because that was in whim sock and he pulled it out and he bit that credit. That was in whim sock, that was not a, that was not a money bag, that was not a coin purse, that wasn't a pouch, that was whims, little motherfucking sweaty sock. And they have not bathed on during this entire adventure that we're aware of that being. Maybe there's a, there's a refresher on you know on. I would imagine there's somewhere where they can evacuate, somewhere on this, but I'm I don't think they're washing their clothes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was gonna say nobody's doing laundry, that's for no one's doing laundry. No one in star wars ever does laundry, like everyone always. That's why we love the weathering portion of when we put our kids together, because no one does does laundry, nobody cleans their shit. Everything's always dirty and filthy and that's part of the reason. But he, he took that sock money into his mouth and he nibbled on it to make sure it was real and that had that had sweaty boy sweat on it and that's just nasty. You're a nasty, nasty fellow Jod and I can't get past that. I can't get past that. So, speaking of the children, we get to see the kids really starting to come into their own, like they're starting to really discover who they are. They're starting to really discover who they are and, you know, we get to see, we get to see neil, you know, with uh, what's, what's her name?

Speaker 1:

uh, hot, uh, hannah, hannah, I think um you know the uh, the, uh, the, the, the, the french revolutionary who parkours everywhere for some reason. I mean, she doesn't need to, but she can, can. So I guess, why not? So that was nice. That was nice. He got a little smooch, had a little tender moment, but we really got to see his level of maturity too.

Speaker 2:

That was a cat butt everywhere. Yeah, on a sighting, yeah. And fun fact apparently Neil's a lover, not a fighter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Let's give the boy some street cred.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well done, sir. Well done indeed.

Speaker 2:

He knows what's going on, and that was a great moral I mean, joking aside, his mindset about how fighting is stupid and you should make a peace is stupid and we should, you should, you know, make, make it, make a piece. And also great moral to slip into this story for kids. Well, what you know, like you said, star wars is a kid's morality tale at its heart. That was a great lesson to squeeze into the middle of this kind of dark a time story.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I agree, and it was nice to see them all really starting to solidify individually. You know, we get to see Neil, he's becoming that moral compass. He knows right from wrong and despite the fact that he does get scared, scared, he's clearly not a coward and I love how they they do that when they're. When that asshole stricks, general stricks, was like, yeah, send the q, guys go in first.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, neil we honor our children, yeah that guy's a douche, children.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that guy's a douche, but so they're going out there. Neil actually takes point. He just is walking, he, and he admits to being terrified but he does it anyway and that's true courage, and I love that they're showing that, because you can still be scared and still be brave and I love that they pointed that out. I love they pointed that out. You know we see the, the burden of leadership um really weighing on fern. So she's she's really starting to solidify and come into her own there were a few.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there was a great moment where you saw, you know, for as tough as she acts, even even in the first episode with that uh, speeder bike, the, the, the bully, the racing kid you know she puts on a tough face in public but after a while you could tell like this is starting this way on her and even though she's you know, I'm captain fern it's like you're also a kid and you're lost and you're scared and it's okay to be. I like her exchange with him about you know. You know it's like I wouldn't have gotten us this far. You know, for the kid who dreams of adventure has to kind of admit like I'm the sidekick, I get it he gets it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and and it was nice to see fern you, fern, take on that vulnerability Again. That sends a message to kids watching this that you can be a leader and still be vulnerable at the same time. I love it. That was a masterstroke. And then we have Wim, who is now after this episode.

Speaker 1:

He is my favorite character Because I feel like whim represents every single star wars fan when they were a kid. He is. He gets scared for a second, like it's like a jump scare sort of thing, and then he is completely unbothered by what's going on around him, this to him, this. He's having fun, I mean he's. He has his pretend lightsaber. He picks up a pipe. You're on this unknown world, potentially trapped, lost in space, you don't know where to go, and you pick up a pipe and pretend that it's a lightsaber and you're playing and, like everyone else is like so serious, and whim is just having the fucking time of his life and Wim is. I feel like he is the quintessential inner child of every Star Wars fan and they've just cast that Like they reached into my past and pulled my inner child out of me and put it on the screen and I absolutely love Wim for that.

Speaker 2:

There have been some great interviews with some of the directors, mostly the adults behind the scenes, but the kids, the press tour stuff is starting to come out. You don't necessarily want to hire a kid actor to tell them to play a part. You sort of build a part around their personality. I think they asked the girl playing Fern who her favorite Star Wars character is and she said Han Solo, and you can see that in the way they've written her character, the scruffy, rebellious leader, captain type, I'm sure it was the same. I think he said Luke Skywalker was his and you can see that in the way he picks up the stick when he gets in the turrets and they're shooting at the X-Wing he's having fun they were not conserving blaster bolts by any means no, he's just having the best time like he is.

Speaker 1:

He's in his element, as dangerous as it is like. Even when they were walking, when they were put on point and they were walking down, neil out of all of them, I would say that he was the bravest soul among them, but only in that whim just didn't give a shit. Like he, he doesn't care, so he doesn't care enough to be afraid because it's just fun he's. He's almost died I don't know how many times, and it he's just he's fucking having fun, man, and I just I love that he's written that way and I love that that he's playing that part so brilliantly to express that they arrived at at akron excuse me, and you know they're looking down they're like, oh, look, there's and, and you know he's his first reaction was the slump in the chair, like oh, it's over.

Speaker 2:

You know it's like when you go go on the first, your first ride at cedar point, you go on the millennium force, you know you go up the big hill and down and around and then, as you're pulling into the station, you're like it's over well, look at like when they, when they landed on on that moon in the last episode to go see kim, he was.

Speaker 1:

He was riding out on the the loading claw and John was like what are you doing? He's like I'm playing, you're on an alien moon with magical atmosphere and gravity, but you're on an alien moon for the first time. You're lost in space again and you just want to ride the loading claw Because, why not? It's there. Yeah, wim is my spirit animal. He is the inner child of every Star Wars fan. I agree, and I just absolutely love it. General Strix, speaking of that douchebag, clearly he knows about Ad Atin, because, did you see, when they asked him, he was like no, we don't know anything about Ad Atin.

Speaker 1:

No, not a bunch of time.

Speaker 2:

All we know is our patrols and our enemies, and what flag. This is all there is.

Speaker 1:

We trade for weapons and hide. That's what we do.

Speaker 2:

I'd be shocked if the daughter knows about the tower and that it we trade for weapons and hide that's what we do. I'd be shocked if you know the daughter knows about the tower and that it's something important, but you're telling me that none of the adults have ever gone out there. None of the adults have ever looked around. You know nobody ever thought to use that place as a base of operations and you know nobody's explored that part of the city.

Speaker 1:

Right. So I'm thinking, if all of this, the initial hunt for Ad Atten, and with Smee having been on Ad Akron, I'm thinking that again probably well over 100 years ago, if not 100 years, because Star Wars likes to do things in 100-year increments sometimes. So I'm guessing that the events that took place in the Supervisor's Tower at that time has become the stuff of legend now. So they don't like, you know, they don't like. Whoever was alive at that time is probably not alive anymore or they're very, very, very old and these stories have been handed down orally for for decades. So they don't go to the supervisor's tower anymore. But you know, at the time it was probably known. This pirate crew attacked, got the information they needed bugged out, and I mean it was probably a catastrophe. But Smee said that they snuck past the warriors, so apparently that war had been going on even then.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the pirates, you know, knowing that the you know, smee and his previous owners had been to this world. Well, you know, while there was still fresh knowledge of the fact that they were part of a larger system of planets, you know they've tracked the legend down, kind of where we are now with the kids Right. Track the legend down kind of where we are now with the kids right. Other people have been searching for this place and and got to step, you know, at akron stage, you know, like we were saying earlier, you know, if this is a palpatine had any knowledge of this, how much you know? Does the empire you know? Does the outside world know about these planets? Pirates and other people have already kind of stayed the claim on certain worlds.

Speaker 1:

So I again so many, so many questions, so many questions and no real answers, like we got like a few little pieces but still no concrete answers. So I don't know. It's been a fun ride so far. This was not my favorite episode to be, to be fair, it was okay. It was a good episode, it was decent, it had necessary information and it there's, there's build up. Um, not my favorite episode, but uh, it was. It was still. It was still fun.

Speaker 2:

So what do you think about SM33's dark side? I was very. The thing that drew me in about this episode is how quickly he turned dark. It's cute to have an old, clunky droid following you around and taking orders from a kid, but as soon as these are, oh, I've been here and Fern does the droid command trick to kind of circumvent a memory lock. It got me thinking back to the first episode, and in this episode, when he puts Jod up against the wall and lifts him up, he expands to raise him up. Immediately. Thought about those skeletons we find and the one with the dagger through its chest off the ground. He was lifted up and then yoinked and I'm sitting there going. Did SM-33 kill them?

Speaker 1:

Because when we first saw the dead bodies we thought maybe the crew fought amongst themselves and that's why they crashed, but maybe 33 have done it that's a great theory because he he himself said the captain told me if anyone starts poking around I'm supposed to rip them apart, limb from limb, right, but maybe that that command override didn't exclude the captain. So once they got to at atton, smee's prerogative was, you know, his order, no one's poking around. So that means you, captain, rip yeah that, that, that quick.

Speaker 2:

That was like the juicy part of this episode for me, not just in the way how dark it got and how you know, for a kid's adventure, it's like, oh, this is when things start getting scary kind of moment. But for you know, sm-33. All of a sudden I'm like, did he off the crew, or the what was left of the crew? And you know, that's where the bodies came from on the ship. You know how that ship crashed. We, we don't know yet, but I'm, you know, yeah, your captain. You get to el dorado and all of a sudden your droid decides oh hey, stab, you know, rip everything. You know he might order 66 his own crew.

Speaker 1:

That's a really interesting theory. I didn't think about that. I like that. So Smee sauced the captain and whoever else was in there probably the first mate, I would imagine somebody else, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Good soldiers follow orders, good soldiers follow orders good soldiers follow orders.

Speaker 1:

We've learned that from dave as well. So, yikes, all right. So predictions for next week. That's going to be. Oh, I should note too that we are going to be we'll be taking two weeks off for the holidays, so we will return. Um, our next episode will be out on january 8th. Well, no, it'll be out on january 9th, because we record on the 8th and we'll be out so. So that's going to be episode five and six and seven that we're going to cover in our next, our next, podcast.

Speaker 2:

So predictions for episode five, six and seven I think we're gonna see more of brutus and the pirates either trailing the kids and john you know they didn't just let that ship go I, I, you know they, they, they want John back. I think they, you know, or at the very least they want to get them for breaking out of. You know, I think we're going to start seeing the baddies show up again, and now they're going to be chasing the kids.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yep, that's a good call, I agree. I agree. I think that somewhere between somewhere in five, six and seven, we're going to get a cameo. I don't know exactly who it's going to be. Obviously I hope it's Hondo. I think that there's there's whispers, there's rumors going around that we may see cara dune again. She, you know, she might, may be coming out of exile. Perhaps, I don't know, there's again whispers and rumors. Who knows that's true or not? Um, if it's true, this could potentially be a vehicle for her to make her return. The kids are in trouble. Who better to save them than this badass republic drop trooper to come in and save the day? Or we're going to get grogu and neil together in the same scene and the entire internet is going to implode.

Speaker 1:

Everyone and it's going to overload it's going to be a cuteness, singularity, and it's going to create a black hole that sucks the world and everything around it inside, and then we're all going to die, but the last things we see are neil holding grogo and then that's, and showing him the circus hologram from the holiday special yeah, oh, my god, crash.

Speaker 1:

See now that just that got even worse. Okay, all right. So, uh, that's gonna do it for us this week. Thank you for joining us again. We are gonna be taking the next two weeks off for the holidays, so please, please, please, uh, have a very happy and safe holiday. Whatever you celebrate, please, you know, do it as responsibly as possible. That doesn't mean don't get in any trouble. Please, by all means, do get into trouble. Just don't get hurt and don't get caught. Maybe that needs to be our new outro catchphrase for this, since we are scoundrels ourselves and we're talking about pirates. Don't get hurt, don't get caught. Sounds about right, all right.

Speaker 1:

So until next time, look for us again on the 8th, and also new episodes of our main podcast, star wars, safe space, are going to be debuting on January 14th, so we'll record on the 10th and drop on the 14th. So look forward to that, and over the holiday, catch up on our old episodes, stuff you haven't listened to yet. So tell your friends, tell your enemies, depending on how much you love or hate either. And sometime in that time frame I'm going to fix my camera because it's been bugging out on me this this entire time. Anyway, all right, crash. Thank you for joining us. Um great holiday as well. Same to you guys. Don't get hurt, don't get caught. We'll see you next time, thank you.

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