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Clone Wars Rewatch-Season 3, Ep20-22: Fan Service Fandom
This week, we dive deep into the emotional journeys of Anakin and Ahsoka in the closing episodes of Clone Wars Season 3. Guilt, mentorship, and the sacrifices made during war create an engaging narrative that resonates with fans, leading to thoughtful discussions about character roles and the emotional weight they bear.
• Exploring the key themes of guilt and redemption
• Analyzing Anakin's struggles and obsession with saving others
• The significance of our "Wall of Remembrance"
• Ahsoka's growth as a character and her role in Anakin's journey
• The rivalry and mutual respect between Anakin and Tarkin
• Discussing Chewbacca's fan service role in the storyline
• Predictions for Season 4
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So coming up this week, guilt, obsession and fur balls. It's the Clone Wars, Season 3, Episodes 20 through 22,. Right here on your Star Wars Safe Space sticker. What are you doing to the microphone? What?
Speaker 2:are you guys doing? This is just weird.
Speaker 1:I just didn't Ignore us. I can't ignore you. You're doing things you don't? Such a banger love it howdy star warriors. Welcome to star wars safe space, your non-toxic, low sodium star wars show. That doesn't make you feel bad for not knowing that yoda was based on shimada, the lead samurai from the 1954 akira kurosawa film, the Seven Samurai, my absolute favorite Akira Kurosawa film. And of course, george was inspired by lots of Akira Kurosawa stuff. All of it, all of it, yeah, basically. So, whether you're a hardcore fan or just a little swarzy curious, this is your Star Wars safe space. And of course, we are the Circle of Nerds and we do absolutely love Star wars, even when we don't always like it and this week louie didn't always like it, so we'll find out.
Speaker 3:It was fine, it was okay, it was all right so let's meet the cast and crew, shall we?
Speaker 1:to my left, your right star of stage and screen. It is a sensational sherry and hailing from parts unknown. It is T to the Oni, welcome back to the galaxy. Or Jedi Master Baloney. It's just because you're wearing the robe and baloney rhymes with Tony. I really have no other creativity beyond that.
Speaker 4:Really bad.
Speaker 1:Phony no Jedi Master Phony no. I think that sounds a little better than below, than baloney I don't know baloney's pretty good, but if it's, but if it's in the star wars universe, it would be ba apostrophe, loanie right.
Speaker 3:So jedi master ba yeah, yeah, yeah, weird symbols, yeah sure ba.
Speaker 1:So actually you know what you? You could be Jedi master Loney, right Like Loney's fine Loney, but your first name would be Bah, like B? A, and then Loney, like Obi-Wan, kenobi, obi-wan Like Obi Obi-Wan, and then last name Kenobi, but you would just be Ba Loney not Ba hyphen Loney no, just Ba like your first name would be Ba, so you would be Master Loney, but your friends would call you Ba and your mom would call you Ba Loney which is a matter of me at least, to use my full name.
Speaker 1:Ba Loney. Yeah, when she's using your full government name at that point. So Baloney Republican name, baloney the Republican name are separate or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 4:I don't know. That's the government name.
Speaker 1:Well, whoever's, whoever's in the government at that time, I suppose separatist, imperial, I don't know whoever gives you your government if it was the empire. You'd just be dead, let's move on. You'd be dead baloney, he'd be fried. Fried baloney. Oh, where's the no? Well, yeah, we'll give you that one too. We'll give you the applause. I don't know, I can't find my rim shot there. It is there. There we go. Fried bologna Fried bologna, All over you.
Speaker 2:I don't like it's soft, we're being thrown into a volcano, that's all. Oh yeah, wall of remembrance, yeah.
Speaker 4:Wall of remembrance. But fried bologna is delicious.
Speaker 1:It is so, you're fine. I've heard you are delicious, all right, that's what they say All right, that's what they say. Maybe it's official now You've been Tobied, you are no longer T to the Oni, you are now Jedi Master Baloney. No, absolutely not. I don't know. I say we take a vote. What do you?
Speaker 4:think about it, Tony.
Speaker 2:I think we can do better, but that's okay.
Speaker 1:Fair enough Until we do better.
Speaker 4:you're Jedi, master, loneyi all right, master loni's fine master loni don't put the bot in front of it can we just call him bother no, that's no. What about bull? Sound like goats?
Speaker 3:hey, master, but you could say bah, I could say bah and ba-ba, and it would be ba-ba-ba, ba-ba.
Speaker 1:What about bol Like Master Bol? What Like B-O-L?
Speaker 4:How about?
Speaker 1:Asian. I mean just no, no, no. So, like it would be Master Ba-Asian, he would be Boloni. So it's still. You know, instead of Baloni it's Boloni, Baligna, balagna, okay, no.
Speaker 3:Now we're just going along.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, so anyway. So what are we doing? Oh, what's your name? Yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 3:Tilden.
Speaker 1:High Danny Louie Yep, here we are From the Outer Rim Territory of Moff Dween.
Speaker 3:It's been a long couple days.
Speaker 1:It's been a long couple days, so, uh, even though today is the only day we've been shooting just for this episode, right here, right now right now.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes. It's been a week since I've seen you. How are? You, I'm doing very well and you, sir, good okay, it's been, uh, it's been an interesting week for sure?
Speaker 1:yeah, how? So tell us. Well, I don't know. All right, let's just go moving on. So what are we doing here? Well, it is very simple. We are on a mission to watch all of the canon star wars tv shows and films, in mostly chronological order. Uh, lord and savior, dave willing, praise dave, praise, praise dave. So, uh, and to that end, this week we are watching the final three episodes of what has so far been the very best season of star wars, the clone wars. So season one and two were good, they were okay, they were good, worth watching. But season three is just, uh, man blowing the doors off. Yeah, pretty much blowing the doors off. So we are pretty much Blowing the doors off. So we are. You said no news, right? No news, no, nothing.
Speaker 3:Nothing. No, no. Okay, I think I kind of like swept all the news. Not a lot of news going on right now. No, nothing happening until.
Speaker 1:Holiday specials come and gone right.
Speaker 4:I guess we're right around the holiday special. We'll right around it. You can watch the holiday special. We can still watch it. Christmas of course 1225.
Speaker 2:Both Hanukkah and Kwanzaa falling on 1226.
Speaker 1:So happy holidays to everybody out there, happy holidays. Whatever it is that you do, be happy, be safe, all that fun stuff. So we'll get into it. We're wrapping up the citadel rescue. Um, yeah, there was, uh, there wasn't a whole lot. I mean it was a pretty exciting episode. I mean that rescue it kind of felt like, uh, like old school, like vietnam war movies, when, like, the helicopter comes down to pick them up, they're being their positions being overrun and they're being, they're being taken out it's in the middle of the volcano instead of outside the volcano.
Speaker 4:I for the pickup I did feel that the uh the rendezvous point was maybe poorly chosen because they had to go down, to even get to it like, why wouldn't you just go up? Yeah, so I don't know that was a little silly, but I I see why they did it, I guess. Well, it's for the it made it.
Speaker 1:It made it exciting. It made it exciting. And when they were, when they were going across on the line, I thought, for sure that was going to be a wrap on somebody, like someone was going to get like knocked off that wire and go into the lava, but they didn't, they didn't.
Speaker 4:So we have any wall of remembrance we do, we do.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, we've got, uh, we've got two, two valiant, brave clones who fell during the descent, so and we're calling them fall guy and short stop. So, um, no, there it is, yeah, it's uh. So fall guy, obviously as a reference to, you know, stunt men and the fall guy, and he's a guy who fell, yeah and then shortstop because it was a long drop and a short stop yeah, so, um, where is that do I have?
Speaker 1:where is it? No, no, there it is. Next season I'll have all of these labeled. No, you won't Probably not. You said that three seasons ago.
Speaker 4:I said that four years ago. I don't.
Speaker 1:You're not wrong On our old shows, you're not wrong.
Speaker 4:Go back and watch those two.
Speaker 1:We also lost Long John's. He passed away too because he was a clone trooper who was just wearing his undersuit. So I'm calling him Long John's because I thought they had imperial suits on.
Speaker 4:No, that was. That was paper pusher body suit. He had the body suit but paper pusher.
Speaker 1:He was one of the Navy, the naval troopers, so he was wearing his naval suit.
Speaker 4:So we're gonna call him paper pusher, because that's mostly what he did.
Speaker 1:Well, that's right. I'm just saying he's an officer.
Speaker 4:He still died for his country, for his or for his you know, whatever, yeah, his his republic.
Speaker 1:He died for the republic.
Speaker 3:Yes, that was probably paying for, like his college, and that's the only reason that he like I did it yeah and um, just trying to get his education and and he had to go on that mission that's how he was on the show.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, we've got uh general. Uh, what's his name? Earl earl, earl williams, what was his name? Lore master general, what or not? The, the jedi peely, pelly, pelly general, earl pelly, was it pelly?
Speaker 4:or peel. I thought peel peel yeah that's, I think you're right, was it? What was his first name? Was it earl?
Speaker 1:why would his first name be?
Speaker 3:earl I think it was just, he was kind of a badass. Though he was kind of a badass, he kicked it up before he he did, he fucked shit up.
Speaker 1:I mean he ran under that one crab droid and it was like real slow all the way across it.
Speaker 1:That was cool and uh, but he got, he got taken out by a naboo dog or whatever it was the dog anubis, anubis, the the anubi, anubi, anubi yeah so bid him, shook him around a little bit like a little rag doll, and then, uh, ahsoka came in and saved the day just briefly yeah crushed that's what happened so then we got to see a little, you know, on the spot, impromptu jedi funeral. They wrapped him up in something I don't know, I guess his own cloak, maybe. Oh, maybe for his own robe, or I, I don't know. They found some kind of burial shroud somewhere along the way.
Speaker 2:No it was probably his cloak. Oh Plus oh, plus One more. Uh-oh, you got one more. No, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's it. You got it All right. That was a lot Under control. Well done, well done. So they used the force to lay him gently like a Viking burial.
Speaker 4:Sure.
Speaker 1:And then his cloak magically kept him from melting into the lava as he flowed.
Speaker 3:He just got to float the river of lava.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's bioluminescent and maybe it's just warm. No, no.
Speaker 4:Maybe it's not lava at all.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just a bioluminescent hot spring, which is why he was floating. Maybe it has a high sodium content which caused him to flow the vibe I guess, okay, they just wanted to show him floating down like a viking.
Speaker 1:I didn't care for that vibe I didn't care for that vibe too much. And then because now, when it's time to go to the extraction point, they why didn't they use the force to send everybody over? Instead, they got to shoot across their little ascension lines and precariously tight rope, crawl across the lava. It's inches above the lava, by the way for the action.
Speaker 1:Okay, everybody could have just been like you know, and that's good, that could still be action packed. While I'm floating you across using the force, the droids come in on the steps, shoot at me. Then I'm like, oh, I lose my, my force ability real quick, or I lose my connection. And then it's like, oh, and then someone else has to dive through and be like, oh, I grab him with the force quick, and then so there's still action. That's how you would direct it. That's exactly how.
Speaker 1:That's why you're not directing soka would have been moving, would have been moving one of the clone troopers across using the force. A stat would have come flying in pew pew pew. She would have been distracted, thus breaking her, her contact with that person. And of course you know the force fails her in that moment. And then anakin has to run and jump and reach out with the force. Last minute got him push him across those sounds, those special effects are did you feel that?
Speaker 4:I felt it, yeah, I felt that felt it right in my nuggets me too so anyway.
Speaker 1:So I don't know that was moving forward moving forward, so I thought that was a great episode, and then the extraction out was pretty cool, yeah, so there really wasn't what no, I'm just saying it might remind me of, like the vietnam movies and, yeah, swooping trying to get out, trying to get out yeah, there wasn't any way.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm just saying it might remind me of, like the Vietnam movies and, yeah, swooping trying to get out, trying to get out. Yeah, there wasn't really much else to to go on with this episode, except maybe the what are we thinking here? Rivalry or budding bromance between Anakin and Tarkin? What are our thoughts?
Speaker 3:I think, like I think it's gonna, I, what are our thoughts? I think, like I think it's gonna. I mean, it almost looks like, uh, like a respect thing, you know, like one is trying to, like you know, puff out his chest and the other one puffs out their chest and they both kind of neither one of them likes that the other one's puffing out their chest, but they recognize the puff, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Because, like when they mentioned, you know, you know, I have the flavor of the free-brewed chancel and he's like yeah.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:Anakin's like so do I and really Really so it's like were they.
Speaker 2:They had a little bit of a measuring cup. Were they measuring? Yeah, Were they measuring?
Speaker 1:Oh they were yeah or was there, you know, like you said, was that respect starting to develop between the two.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it started one way and ended more with the respect. I think at first it was you know which one of our dicks bigger.
Speaker 1:Right, but they both ended up mutually respecting each other. It seemed, yes, anakin, maybe a little bit more than he should have, because he's just still an impressionable youngster. Other, it seemed, anakin, maybe a little bit more than he should have, because he's just still an impressionable youngster, and obi-wan wasn't feeling that. No, sherry, okay, you feel like he looks like you got something to say over there no, I just it's yeah it's yeah, it's, yeah, no, I I don't know.
Speaker 4:I just felt like um tarkin was like pushing the limits with a general. I don't care that you don't like the jedi, but sure it was. I thought he was pretty disrespectful.
Speaker 1:To be honest, I'm surprised anakin didn't choke him out right there well, he's not allowed to do that and obi-wan is there to keep him in check.
Speaker 3:No, I if obi-wan wasn't there I think there would.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, that's my. I don't know.
Speaker 1:All right, but maybe poppy told him keep an eye on my boy that's possible he's got the ear of the chancellor right, and he did say that he was gonna he was.
Speaker 4:Why would a captain?
Speaker 1:have an ear of the chancellor. He's gotten in his favor in some way because he, he becomes a governor or he, he is a governor now. Maybe I can't remember, but I know he is a governor at one point. Okay, um, and he's also a grand moff, so he is like the top of the naval food chain but.
Speaker 1:I believe he's also a governor of worlds, so he's he's got quite a bit of power and I don't know at this time I don't know exactly where he's at. There's. There are some cool stories in in the comics about um him going to like formal, like dinners and receptions, and things like this on alderaan and um leia not being found fond of him, yeah, and pulling pranks on him when she was a little girl. So there was. There was one comic where it kind of shows she like ends up dumping something on him, something I can't remember if it was like so she didn't like him from the jump.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, that was her force. And so she, uh, she kind of, yeah, she did some pranks and he was not happy about that because she kind of made him look like a fool in front of all these important diplomats, of people. So when he finally did get the opportunity to sign her execution order, I'm sure he was quite, quite delighted in that. So, okay, it was interesting. That was a nice little arc. I thought, you know, just seeing, you know seeing a young ish tarkin, and uh, the first meeting between him and anakin. So you know, of course we'll see more of that. And then, moving on to, uh, padawan lost and wookie hunt, that, that Louie was just like ugh at first that's fine, but at the end of it he was like, oh, look at Yoda. Oh, yay, look at Yoda's little.
Speaker 3:Put them all in smileys and whatever I just think it's cool that Yoda like is I don't know? Like I just feel like everybody on the council just dumps on anakin but yoda never does. And I just like in that moment, you know, he sees him in a soak and he's like, yeah, I made the right decision. Like he's happy that obviously he doesn't, he can't foresee everything that's about to happen. Right in that moment, you just see, yeah, he's kind of like finally, and then they walked it, walk away together.
Speaker 3:I like the ending, but the whole chewbacca thing, like he added, there was no value. He added no value to these episodes whatsoever. They could have replaced him with any wookie and it would have been well it could have been any, any character.
Speaker 1:I know you have to be a wookie. It could have been anybody, anybody, but it was a. You know, it was a bone thrown to the fans. I mean it was something you know. Let's throw chili in there, why not? But then what does that say about chewbacca? Because, like so, then we don't need any of them.
Speaker 3:I would rather see like so in live action we also see another wookiee that I mean the only two wookies that we really see in live action that are worth. Crap is chewbacca and then tarful, yeah and uh, uh, revenge of the sith chewbacca's entire fucking family in the holiday special. The only person that we know is no, all his family members had names okay, but they're not canon.
Speaker 1:It's part of the holiday special, so I would like to think that it's not canon it's not so, so why wouldn't?
Speaker 3:it would have been cooler to have like tarful in there and give us some tarful and not chewbacca, okay that's fair.
Speaker 4:I think it's just a fan thing A little fan service they needed to put that in Especially after the heavy season.
Speaker 3:I guess it's fine, that's true.
Speaker 1:Just wasn't doing it for you. It was a good growth episode for Ahsoka, a really good growth episode for her andoka, a really good growth episode for her and for Anakin At the end, because he, of course, we saw he was beating the shit out of himself. I should have done more, I could have done more, I didn't do this, I didn't do that and she was the one that had to bring him back, because he's just always feeling guilty.
Speaker 4:Again. That's probably why Yoda was smiling.
Speaker 1:Because that's probably why yoda was smiling, because that's the balance, because now the student is able to help teach the master something.
Speaker 4:It's not even about a student or master, it's just. There's the balance.
Speaker 1:She's there to balance him out well, but I think, but I think it is that too, I mean because she no, I know we can learn from our students, you know it's no, I know, but I'm just saying thank you but I thought that was great. And when she said you know, I survived because of what you taught me, so it's not what you didn't do so that should have right there ended his feeling of oh shit, yeah, but no, because he's emo because he's because he's, he's emo, he's emo.
Speaker 1:It's so bad. The death of his mother just continues to haunt him and weigh on him so heavily and he can't escape it okay with it.
Speaker 4:So I mean, yeah, I guess he's a little ebo I guess, but I did, like the, the nod to indiana jones crystal skull, that was the crystal skull in there. That was hilarious. That was cool, even though that movie's.
Speaker 3:But it was. It was a temple of doom.
Speaker 4:I like all of them, I just thought that was a fun movie, but but yeah, I thought that was a cute.
Speaker 1:I like the little nods to other movies he just won't shut up about, about Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4:Now, like we can't yeah, but you didn't have to bring up temple of doom we like it and he doesn't, it's okay, but it's the best.
Speaker 1:It's the best of them, but anyway.
Speaker 4:It's the melting faces my favorite.
Speaker 1:So I like seeing this. I do agree with you. I do think that, like Chewbacca, not necessary Fan service, for sure.
Speaker 4:Again, I think what you said is correct.
Speaker 3:It was so heavy, yeah, so many people died, we learned so much, and so then they were like we need to do a scooby-doo ending because, I mean, that's exactly what this was and I could totally see them having pre-planned it to be a different episode that ends it, and they were like we need to put something in there and before we end this, because that we don't want to end it that way.
Speaker 1:Right, so it's possible that they did it wasn't a scooby-doo ending for khalifa, I don't mean around. She took one to the chest and mia khalifa takes a lot to the chest it was still a lot less, a lot less yes than all the other.
Speaker 4:That's true that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I mean, yes, she died, but I mean I and can we, can we please encourage chewbacca to stop getting captured? I don't know how he gets himself, because he's captured here and this is years and years and years before his capture by the empire, and han solo has to rescue him, which is how he gets the life debt with solo. So now he has a life debt with Ahsoka.
Speaker 4:So how's that going to roll out? I wonder if they're going to keep doing anything with that. You guys have seen well, you've seen all of the series so far, so I'm curious to see if he's I am too In there, because that would. I don't know that might that one might be pushing it. Yeah, like him, have a life debt to her now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like they didn't really play on that, though, because he just was like all right, see you later. Thanks, that's true.
Speaker 4:And they dipped out.
Speaker 1:Okay, so maybe that's not, so maybe it's not a full life debt.
Speaker 3:I mean, I feel like that's a first saves chewbacca. Chewbacca is not all like immediately, like, oh, I'm gonna protect you forever right, they still butt heads a lot early on and then eventually. Okay, you know he realizes that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know but han saves him a couple times right, so that had to happen.
Speaker 3:He saved Chewie a couple times, but at first Chewie was still hesitant.
Speaker 1:I think Chewie just needs to stay at home. I mean just chill, Just be at home with the wife and the kids. What's her name? Nala? Is that his wife, Nala? I don't know.
Speaker 4:He likes adventure.
Speaker 1:Okay, but he's got responsibilities at home, apparently not.
Speaker 4:I? He's got responsibilities at home? Apparently not. I guess he's out there making that money. He's making that money. Well, I don't know about money, but maybe they do. All right is forever getting captures as well, so I don't know. Or lose, or losing his cargo because he has to dump it well, I mean even he gets boarded sometimes.
Speaker 1:I mean he said so himself, I mean sometimes that sort of thing happens.
Speaker 4:So I just think these were filler, like a little bit of, uh, good feeling fillers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not saying things didn't die or people didn't die, but nothing really happened in this episode that I can see having any implications in future like, if you didn't watch it, it's fine yeah mala.
Speaker 1:Mala is chewbacca's wife's, so mean her name is mean okay. Well, I mean, you know she's a wookiee wife, probably like I wouldn't fuck with a woman, so she probably told him to get the fuck out and go do some adventuring right, we need money. We need money. Baka, go get it the fuck and find someone else. That Han Solo guy is a bad influence. Actually, no, not really, chewie is a great influence on Han. Yeah, I think he probably keeps Han out of more trouble than Han gets Chewie into, probably.
Speaker 4:And again, this is how you know that he doesn't like kids, because why are you stealing younglings?
Speaker 1:Star Wars hates children.
Speaker 4:Not even Padawan. At least Padawan are a little more experienced. You're just straight up taking babies. Yeah, like those kids were what 10?
Speaker 1:They were in their teens, no those kids were 10, 11? No, maybe when they got caught, but by the time Ahsoka gets there they're like the same age as Ahsoka-ish.
Speaker 4:I don't think so. I think they were younger.
Speaker 1:Maybe a little younger? I think so. So then that questions how long had they been there? He just said, a few rotations he said more rotations than I can count, but I don't know what. So how long? I mean? Were they there years? What is a rotation? Whatever that planet is, whatever that planetary rotation is, so it's different.
Speaker 4:Oh, with light and sun.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, so it's just like our rotation is 24 hours, but there's who knows, yeah, it could be, you know, a week or few there's. Yeah, I mean, depending on their, their orbit and all that crap. So who knows? So I don't know, I don't know. But I did, I really like, I like the end of this better than anything else. I liked Ahsoka kind of talking, almost mentoring Anakin at this point, you know, and I really like that and like their little bow to each other.
Speaker 1:And then, of course, that's when Well, that's her growth, that is her growth, his too, his too, but it's just not working. It's not working, it's just not working. He just cannot, cannot get rid of that, that obsession in his heart to save everyone.
Speaker 4:Even plocoon said we have to leave her.
Speaker 1:And plocoon found her and probably, and mentors her still. Found her at the age of three and mentors her still, and he was still able to. Not that he doesn't care, of course he cares he understands, he loves his little soca, but he little so little, so that is cute, right but he understands that this is part of being a jedi, being a jet.
Speaker 4:That's it let her go on her own. If you did shit right, she'll be fine, she'll find her way back to you right? That's the way parents think of kids, like if you did your job right, they'll end up coming back or doing whatever they need to do. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1:So I'm glad that it turned out the way that it did, um, and yoda did as well. So we are all done with season three, yeah, and we've got season four on deck for us in a couple of weeks. So we're gonna take two weeks off just to kind of rest and recuperate. You know, enjoy the holidays, all that good, fun, stuff, um, and then we're gonna be back with season four. Do we know, like do you guys know anything about season four? Good, I have no idea. Good, so any predictions or things that you would like to see in season four? We're gonna start with you, daddy louie.
Speaker 3:Um, I think probably the thing I would like to see the most is, uh, more from the savage oppressed storyline, more with the night sisters and obviously now mall, like that was a pretty big shocker, um, and then I mean that's probably the big one, but I'd like to know more about this brother, sister, father thing. But I I have a feeling we're not going to touch on that, for a lot longer so yeah, I definitely. I think the savaggio press stuff that was probably the more the my favorite part of this season.
Speaker 1:Okay and that was more of that. That was really cool too. Yeah, I like that. I agree. I agree, tony. What are you, what are you looking forward to for season four, or what's your what's your season four wish list?
Speaker 2:um, I would like to see hondo again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, for this whole season without, uh, without getting him him our favorite scoundrel other than that I feel like this season, you know, especially towards the end here we got into some kind of extreme story line and it took away from, to my mind, some of the more interpersonal dynamics, which is one of the things I really enjoy about it. So that's one thing I'd like to get back to a little bit more. It's a little more grounded, basic stuff where we can actually see some of that interplay at work.
Speaker 4:Okay, what about you, sherry? I'd like to see Anakin and Ahsoka's progression. That's fun for me I like watching their dynamics, so just you know. And then seeing Anakin kind of go closer and closer.
Speaker 1:Are you enjoying watching him fall to the dark side like one episode at a time. He's just like slowly falling to the dark side.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, I'm not like ha ha, I know what you mean. No, I just think it's interesting to watch the fall. The progression, because I mean, as far as you know, you know you've, you started out with straight up darth vader yeah, and I and him and padme to be honest, I'd like to see more of that because obviously, as he goes down, you know they have to get closer obviously yeah um, you know, to to have the kids and I I imagine that at some point, like you know she's, she was.
Speaker 4:We already know that, not even at some point, but we know that she's very much like his anchor to the light side, you know I, sometimes I I think more so ahsoka really, because that's okay, not that he doesn't, I mean, obviously he loves, of course he loves padme, but um, I think ahsoka was the anchor and then I, you know, I know some of the story, so so I think that pushed him over as well okay, well, that's interesting she was. She was more of the anchor, well, like that whole story with the father-daughter. You know what I mean. So I think they should have stayed together, not as a couple, but as a mentor mentee.
Speaker 4:Or just become friends, just like him and Obi-Wan, I think, for her. If he would have stayed with her as that power jedi couple, um, I think he wouldn't have fell to the other side and he'd still be able to love padme yeah, the way he did and maybe raise his kids and but have ahsoka there as ahsoka to help ahsoka, that is anti-soca, anti, antisoca, that is Antisoca, antisoca.
Speaker 1:That is heartbreaking to even consider. That is heartbreaking. And you've got Uncle Obi coming over, yeah, talking about that one time where your dad pulled me out of this nest of Gundarks, and you know, like all these stories, that they could be telling little Luke and Leia.
Speaker 4:Off of one decision.
Speaker 1:Off of one decision. Off of one decision that was made with just the not even his heart, but the pain in his heart.
Speaker 4:Well, Ahsoka's decisions too. Well, of course, yeah, so she had to make some heart-wrenching decisions as well, for her own sanity. Yeah, that course yeah.
Speaker 1:So she had to make some heart-wrenching decisions as well For her own sanity. Yeah, that is very true. But all of this just really everything, does stem from Anakin's guilt about his mom. It really does. I mean, this boy's got mommy issues Big time, big time and man does fucking Palpatine play him. I mean he really pulls on this kid and the Jedi don't do anything to help and it's really sad. So I don't know we'll see we'll see.
Speaker 1:I've seen season four, but I haven't seen it since it came out, so I've forgotten all of season four. Okay, cool, so this is gonna be fresh for me. I, I want to see more clone trooper stuff. Okay, um, I'm looking forward to rewatching um, the Umbara arc, and I don't remember what season that's in. Okay, um, I know it's later in the series, so I don't know if we're getting it now or maybe in five, but um, we've got the uh now, or maybe in five, but um, we've got the uh. What is it? The lost episodes. But I think the lost episodes ended up getting turned into season seven, I think. Is that correct?
Speaker 1:yeah, oh, I didn't know yeah, so we're gonna go, because season six was like the last, it was supposed to be done, yeah, with season six, but there were some episodes that they had never aired during towards the end of the show.
Speaker 3:So when disney bought it, when disney bought star wars, they did a few more episodes and then took the last episodes and made season seven oh, there was a big online movement too.
Speaker 1:It was save the clone wars. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, it's because they wanted. They thought that the clone wars would be done after the disney buyout, um, and all these lost episodes would never come to light. So well, the fans, the fans, the fans spoke okay, I don't think disney was going to do it. Oh, okay, but the fans, the fans spoke. And then. So here we are with seven seasons, which is really good.
Speaker 1:So so yeah, I like, I like the clone stuff, I I like all of the, uh, the underworld stuff. I like seeing the bounty hunters, I like seeing the smugglers and you know the stories about the other people that are out there, you know, in the galaxy just kind of like, yeah, making their way downtown walking fast yeah a bar is season four, oh, so when we, when we put together the um our, our road map for season four, we need to make sure that we've got the Umbara arc in one episode of our show.
Speaker 1:Like you know, obviously, the way that we have everything mapped out Now we usually, you know, sometimes our arcs are split up. So but we're going to make sure that the Umbara arc is in one one of our shows. You'll have to map it out, I'll map it out, but I'll I'll start with that episode and then I'll just go back from it or that, that arc it is. I'm telling you now it is brutal, but damn is it not.
Speaker 1:don't tell us good storytelling, don't say nothing it's great television it's, and I'm so glad that we're watching it this way, like just watching it, you know, and we don't have to wait an entire summer for new seasons to come out or whatever. We're just watching it like this, back to back to back, because, man, are we going to be connected to these characters? It's going to be like watching game of Thrones and star Wars I'm just putting that out there right now. It's like we know who has plot armor, but it's still not going to matter. We, we know who has plot armor, but it's still not going to matter. We're going to be like oh, you're my boy blue. Oh, my God, miss you, buddy. Okay, sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 4:That's it. I love blue.
Speaker 1:Zip lock key in pocket. Done Um.
Speaker 4:KY part.
Speaker 1:KY pool party. Kyy pool party. Kyy pool party, yeah, blue that's.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's right from uh old school. Yep, it appears to be episode seven, eight and nine, so you'll have to work one, two three, four, five, six, seven, what is it? Seven, nine, nine so you'd have to go three, three yeah to do the first three, the, the second three and then those four.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's all the pizza I ate, or remembering that story, I can't remember. My heart hurts right now. Don't overhype it.
Speaker 3:Are you sure?
Speaker 1:Man, no, I'm good, no, I keyed.
Speaker 2:This is one of those things that somewhat got spoiled for me and even I don't remember, like I've only seen the thing, the little bits of spoilers, whatnot, not the whole thing. And yeah, I'm hurting too, it's not all right, so that's it.
Speaker 1:We're gonna wrap. I don't know if we have anything else to talk about.
Speaker 4:No, I think we're good, I mean, this is, we got a pimp pimp it out.
Speaker 1:We got a pimp. I thought you said we had a pimp. Where is he? I didn't. I'm not the pimp, I'm not the All right, so You're the pimp in Star.
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