Star Wars: Safespace
"Star Wars: Safespace” is an unapologetically positive force for long-time fans and the Swarsy curious. Free of gatekeeping, judgment, and negative Star Wars theories, we break down a different TV episode or film from the Star Wars franchise each week, in a relaxed, easily accessible atmosphere. This is your Star Wars safe space to learn more about a galaxy far, far away, with people who love Star Wars, even if they don’t always like it.
Star Wars: Safespace
Clone Wars Rewatch-Season 5: Episodes 10-13
We wrestle with Clone Wars Season 5’s D-Squad arc, from awkward open to meaningful payoff, and dig into why Gregor’s awakening still hits hard. Tales of the Underworld steals the news cycle as we hope for character-first stories that fix gaps and deepen the saga.
• rewatching the droid-led mission and its tonal pivot
• why easter eggs and signage make the city feel real
• Gregor’s helmet marks, identity, and trauma
• Ventress and Cad Bane teases in Tales of the Underworld
• Andor’s weight on Rogue One and grief
• Finn, representation, and anthology fixes
• Boba Fett’s reinvention and community-building
• calls for Tales of the Droids across eras
• homework: S5 E1, E14, E15, E16 in that order
• merch shout and Swarzy Curious group guidelines
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SPEAKER_02:Welcome back to the galaxy, everybody. Apparently, we're having a guest host with us today, uh, our good friend technical difficulties. But we're here. We're doing it. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:All right. And we would be remiss if we didn't. There we go. And uh from all the parts, it's uh technical difficulty. There they are, right there. Just uh a blank screen. Gotta love it. All right. So what are we doing here? Well, our mission is to watch all of the canon Star Wars films and TV shows in chronological order, bringing them down, connecting the dots, and learning more about Star Wars and maybe even a little bit about ourselves. And a word of warning to all you would-be Star Warriors, there will be spoilers. So please be prepared for that. If you haven't uh caught up with where we are right now on our current journey, um get caught up. Hit pause, go watch the last four episodes of the uh season five of the Clone Wars, episodes 10, 11, 12, and 13, and then come on back. We'll be here. All right. So we're gonna get into these episodes, but first we've we've got a little news, right? It's been it was a busy week for it has been a busy week for Star Wars. So who wants to who wants to take it? Because I mean, there is I'm I'm geeked out about the Tales of the Underworld trailer. Uh-huh. Andor's right around the corner.
SPEAKER_06:Oh man, that that one I'm getting excited about because the first season was so good. And I'm not one of those people that are like Andor is peak star. It was good, it was damn good. And I like the fact that we're starting to mesh that show with Rogue One, and that's where the the connection is gonna start coming in. And that's this is that's my jam.
SPEAKER_03:And what what really kind kind of sucks about Andor, I don't know, Andor doesn't suck, but what sucks about Andor is that they're they're creating these characters that we're growing attached to, you know, and we're learning more about, and it just makes Rogue One that much more difficult to watch. So I it's just it's like it's like now going back, you know, rewatching the Clone Wars. A lot of this is new territory for Tony. Um you know, but like I I haven't watched the Clone Wars in, I don't know, probably like 10 years. Maybe not quite that long, but it it's it's been a while, it's been several years since I watched the Clone Wars, especially this season five that we're in right now. It's been a long time since I've seen season five. So watching the arc this week, there were a lot of moments I didn't remember initially. So I was like, wait, what was it? Wait, oh no, oh, oh you know, but then I I know about the fate of certain other characters and things like that, so it wasn't too much. Sherry, on the other hand, because we always watch together, Sherry is not aware of the fate of certain characters at this point.
SPEAKER_06:Uh, so she was she was a bit heartbroken at uh at the end of this arc, and it just reinforced like I've I'm almost like a yearly rewatch kind of guy, so I'm well versed with this this show, and watching that moment that we're gonna talk about not knowing at the time, yeah, when it first aired, there are moments where you know I I'm either like level up here, you know, happy, or down here, just like distraught.
SPEAKER_03:And that was one of those just like oh right in the fields, right in the field, and that's that's the thing about the clone wars. It's like you know, it kind of sometimes it just plods along, and it's just it can be a chore to get through. Like the first like being the first episode in this arc, yeah. The being in the void, the first episode in this arc, it was a little bit of a slog. I kind of felt like we were in season one again. Um, I get it, you gotta lay the foundation, of course. Um, but then you know, we get to the city and things start to pick up a little bit, and then you know, we continue on and and things start to pick up. So uh it wasn't bad. Uh Tony, we're gonna we're gonna start with you this week because I want to hear your thoughts on on this um this arc, but we've got to talk about um we've got to talk about tales. Let me get it uh let me get this added here. We've gotta talk about tales of the underworld. Should we just roll the trailer?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, let's just take a look at it and then we'll kind of play it again and maybe discuss.
SPEAKER_03:All right, here we go. Stand by for all of our all of our podcast listener. Uh, I'm glad you're able to watch along with us on uh on Spotify or wherever you're listening to us. I'm sorry, this is so dumb to do this. But we're live streaming too. It'll sound awesome. Just gonna listen. It'll sound awesome. Yeah, because whoever whoever put this trailer together, bravo. Because it is so good. All right, let's go, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:Never can be too cautious with a strange so good.
SPEAKER_03:So many questions here.
SPEAKER_06:And what's great is we know from past seasons that they'll overlap these two characters like throughout their lives. You know, yeah, like the Dooku arc, you know, it it hopped a few years at a time, but it was all kind of a story throughout. I I'm really looking forward to seeing bit more of his backstory.
SPEAKER_03:Look at Baby Bane. We had Baby Bane.
SPEAKER_01:I was Count Dooku's lead assassin.
SPEAKER_06:And everybody after Bad Batch was asking what's gonna happen to Venture. So this is a great addition without having to pull a whole series out to do it. Great cut there. I love just juxtaposition there, and it's just great.
unknown:No one needs to die.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting saber color for massage as well.
SPEAKER_01:It is. I just want to listen, listen, listen.
SPEAKER_03:So I I like I like that little it will be potentially a uh a bit of a of a throwback to uh to Yoda there. I'm not afraid. You will be, you will be, but like just whoever whoever put that together, I don't know if it was a team or one person, but just the the audio design of it, like the sound effects going in time to the music. It was just the first time I watched it, it was just a work of art, and I just I absolutely love it. So, thoughts on the trailer, and we'll just run it in the background here because why not? Okay, Disney, Disney. We're only we're not doing this to get money, we're doing this because we love you. So please don't hit us with a cease and desist. Um, because that wouldn't be cool because we we love you.
SPEAKER_06:So, yeah, Tony, what did you think of this?
SPEAKER_02:I I mean, I I know that I know what timelines look like, even though this is not my field of expertise, but I just want to say I feel like somebody needs to cut us a royalty check because we've talked about this well before this announcement came out. So somebody's listening to that on Facebook.
SPEAKER_06:I was like, you know, we you talk about something long enough, you just manifest it, and they're like, Dave, if you're listening, you're welcome.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? Honestly, it's I just I don't even want the money. Can I just go to Galaxy's Edge, please? Or I mean, can we be can we be background players, day players? Can we be extras like in some cantina somewhere? I just want like an official canonized action figure of us. I think that would be cool. Like in a cantina play set with all of us in it.
SPEAKER_06:There you go. And like Camp Bain is like he's just classic western bad guy, and it's gonna be so fun to see. Yeah, we've seen the Han Solo Western mode. It's gonna be fun seeing it from the point of view of the bad guy, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And maybe learning how he became the bad guy, or maybe he always was the bad guy. You know, I mean, did the worm turn for him, or was he just a bad seed from the start?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and and conversely, Ventress, who we associate with the the bad guy, you know, for as grouchy as she gets, you know, is she developing a lighter side? Is she developing a little good natured in her?
SPEAKER_03:She's got a conscience, yeah. You know, she definitely grew a conscience.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe she got a little Kenobi in her. I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh I don't know, like, like we're we're seeing we're obviously this is Imperial Era. So I'm wondering what how far into Imperial era this is. So Kenobi is obviously is is Kenobi no longer with us at this point, or is he still on Tatooine?
SPEAKER_06:Because it would be nice to maybe see Obi-Wan because we see her in Bad Batch with the with this. This might be after she, you know, she's encountered the the the Bad Batch and now she's off doing things, but that show went you know, like that the the epilogue went well into the rebellion era, so there's there's a whole gap of time where she could be roaming around and no one knows it, right?
SPEAKER_03:And getting into all kinds of uh trouble and adventures. I'm still hoping, still hoping for a live action version of Asage. Um I don't know who would play her. I I after watching Fury Road, I was thinking Charlie's Theorin. I think she could probably handle it. I mean, she's if we're if we're talking about Asaj during the time of the Mando verse, um Charlize is old enough to play the role because Asaj will be older. Um, and we we've already seen that Charlize is uh not afraid of action and she can kick some fucking ass.
SPEAKER_06:So she's already semi-part of the Disney family because she's been she's in the MCU briefly, so it wouldn't be hard to bring her over into Star Wars.
SPEAKER_03:And she looks good, she would look good with that haircut, she looks good bald, but she would look good with that haircut. So can she can she like pull off like Asaj is a complex character, and I'm glad that we're getting to see that. She's a very she's just she still feels like cold and slimy at the same time, but I would I would still totally take her out for a cup of coffee.
SPEAKER_06:And you know, like for for as much as we talk about Ahsoka is Dave's creation, Ventures, you know, can't was there before you know Dave came along, but I think he sort of perfected it. He perfected the character. It was more than just uh a chick with two lightsabers and an attitude.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot of depth to her that we've we've discovered in Clone Wars, and I think now we're it we're going beyond that where we're gonna see how she grows post-Clone Wars, and and that is, I think, in large part thanks to Dave giving her giving her that room to breathe and to grow as a character, and not just you know, making her like a one-off throwaway, you know, bad guy of the week sort of character. You know, I mean she she, you know, quote unquote died during the micro series, and she was resurrected, and then she disappeared and was resurrected, and now she's being resurrected again. So uh Saj will not go quietly into the night.
SPEAKER_02:Is that supposed to be Lauren? I don't know. Yeah, because it looks an awful lot like him. Assuming that he's assuming that he ages, you know, as all the other characters do.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe at this point anything's possible.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I'll be sure.
SPEAKER_03:Anything's possible. I just know that May 4th, I'm I'm taking I'm taking May 3rd and May 5th off of work. So I will I will be uh putting in sick leave for those days.
SPEAKER_06:So it is a oh the 24-hour case of the uh blue shadow virus, is that it exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Oh god, not the blue shadow virus. I mean, I still want to I still want to live crash, I still want to walk among the living. Um, I don't know. Maybe I'll just come down with a case like Bantha Bumps or something. I don't know. There you go. I'm not well versed in uh the diseases of Star Wars. I guess maybe I could look into that, but I wanna and who's who's the red sabered person? Who the f is that?
SPEAKER_06:Well, the Inquisitor, uh you know, I have a feeling it's it's gonna be a new Inquisitor. Yeah, they they've sort of teased that Vader has this like yeah, there's a few we've seen in other shows briefly that like I remember that one big dude from uh Ahsoka's Ark and Tales of the Jedi. I don't remember his name, but Clancy Brown did the voice. Yeah, and it's like it was a great like oh who's this guy? Oh, and he's gone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I just think this is gonna be great. I'm looking forward to it. Now, before we get into the episodes, um, what other tales would you guys like to see?
SPEAKER_06:Well, now that they've done Underworld, there's just so much room to work. Um, I mean, you could do Tales of the Resistance, you could do Tales of the First Order. I mean, you could cover everything in in small, you know, there's so many characters from the sequel trilogy alone that never got a reasonable. This would be a great way to bring John Boyga back into the house, you know what I mean? After you know the recent comments about that he made. Um, and it stirs up controversy, usually by the exact people we're talking about, the the theorists out there, yeah. But um, I had some good conversations with friends. Uh, I talked to a a couple of one friend of mine, and I asked him what did he think, uh, being an African-American. And he's like, I totally agree with him. And I I got a quote I wanted to read from Larry, his name's Larry. He said, It's funny because you don't notice it until it's called out, but you were introduced to it as a kid, so everything in the galaxy far, far away being either white or alien, was normal. And I'm like, Okay, that tracks with what John was saying, and he said this in other interviews, it's just because this new documentary was coming out, it made press, and then everybody you know quotes and misquotes the context of it. But if you think about it, he's got a point. Finn got a really short stick in the sequel trilogy, and you can question the motives. Is it an industry? I don't think it's a Lucas villain problem as much as it is a society and an industry problem. But I think what he said was very brave to come out and say, Look, yeah, it's okay if I'm the best friend to the hero, but you know, because people all the time say, Oh, we'd love to see Finn as a Jedi. I would too, but I don't know if you could, you know, after what they did to him in the sequel trilogy as an actor, you know, are you gonna go through the bad bad press and the and the heckling you get from certain people to put out a a story about Finn? Or would you do it in something like Tales where you could bring him in as a voice, cover, you know, cover a span of his life, and maybe show him following a Jedi path?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I I think you know, and without getting, you know, because we don't want to get too far into the weeds on like on real-world stuff, yeah. But I I think that ultimately the the failing was with the with the sequel trilogy, there were too many too many hands at the helm. And I think ultimately we had this great character Finn that was uh underutilized. We really didn't get to see Finn shine. And initially, you know, all of the media that went out, you know, it seemed like Finn was going to be a much bigger character than he was, you know. Uh, you know, first of all, we've got a stormtrooper of color, and then we see him with a lightsaber later on. It's like, what is this guy's story? And he does kind of end up getting relegated to a sidekick with two kind of weird romantic-ish arcs that just don't go anywhere and then comes back and seems felt like an afterthought. So it, you know, so there's there's a lot of you know potential reasons for that. But I think if we're if we're looking at it in in universe context, and if if we look at it in terms of, you know, and it's easy for me to say this because people who look like me are represented, you know, so it's very easy for me to say this from this perspective as someone that comes from a reper, a well-represented group. Um, so I see things with different eyes, of course. Um, if you look at the at the galaxy, if you look at human beings, period, white, black, whatever, they are in the minority. We're seeing it because it's a human story, but when when the when the gang walks into Chalum's Cantina for the very first time, they're the only human. Well, there might be there's a couple others, but but for the most part, that cantina, the vast majority were alien species, alien races, you know. So human beings are a sm seem to be a smaller minority in the galaxy at large, you know, because think about I mean when Obi-Wan and an Anakin go to a planet, you know, it's a planet entirely peopled with a different species, you know. So human beings, whatever their their their color happens to be, it it seems like they are the minority group, yet if we want to really like look at things socially, you know, they're they're the ruling group of the galaxy, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Because Andor has a very limited number of aliens represented on screen, and that could be part of the Empire's humanophobia, you know, xenophobia about alien species, yeah. They focus, yeah. The humans get front and center. Yes, but yeah, I think like Ben, it was a it was a tragedy, and there's so much they were trying to cover that he got the sh short end of the storyline stick, and yeah, you know, it's one of those things. Uh Star Wars is thought of as a trilogy. You'd almost have to do a Harry Potter level number of movies to give everybody equal or significant story time in the two and a half hour movie times three movies, which is the beauty of what these Disney Plus shows are. You know, you couldn't do a movie about Boa Fett wanting to get out of the bounty hunting business, it wouldn't play as a mega blockbuster, but it's a great story arc, and you can tell tell it in in movie level production and quality in a six-seven episode you know mini-series on Disney Plus, and it should have gotten more positive review than it did.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I mean, the Book of Boba Fett, I mean had it had missed ups as well, obviously, but you know, again, looking looking at it through my lens, it seemed like for Book of Boba Fett, there was a really nice range of representation there. Oh, yeah. Um, it wasn't just this group of white kids jumping in the van and saving the galaxy. It was, you know, it wasn't the Scooby Gang, you know, solving mysteries, it it wasn't this homogenous group. You know, you've you had this, you had the diversity there in the Book of Boba, I think. Um and again, not to get too much into the real world weeds, but you know, could that have been part of the reason for the backlash, you know, that we that because we really we heard a lot from the fandom menace at that time when Book of Boba came out. You know, I think some of the complaints were that's not my boba fett. You know, we we saw boba presenting in a certain way during the Mandalorian. That's our Boba Fett, you know. I mean that, but that was a boba fett who was on a mission. He wanted to get his fucking dad's armor back. He got his armor back, he was able to like let loose some of that pent-up energy that he had on those those poor stormtroopers, and then now maybe it's time to kick back and retire and collect this, you know, this knight's nice fat, you know, crime lord check. You know, that's not to say that Boba Fett's still not a badass. This is just another another another facet of the diamond that is Boba Fett.
SPEAKER_06:And and and just the fact that he you know it was a bounty hunter who wanted to be more and and and also did away with a lot of the seedier side of job. Yeah, he got rid of the spice trade. He got you know, he you know, he found out the uh the kids, the speeder kids were unemployed, so he said, Okay, you work for me now. Now he's got you know he was building a community. You wouldn't think of a guy like like Boba Fett, Mr. Pew Pew jetpack from our our childhood, super loner, super loner as someone who would want to build a community and sort of be the marshal, yeah, marshal of a town, right?
SPEAKER_03:But he saw the value in it, yeah. You know, he saw that he saw the value in it. But I mean, we can't forget again, it's like you know, when we're looking at at Anakin and Darth Vader, you know, we can't forget these are awful people that that have done and continue to do awful things. Yes, he worked to get rid of spice and slavery and things like that. Okay, cool, great. But, you know, you're still not, you know, the elected mayor of Moss Espa at this point. You know, you're still you're still the fucking godfather of Moss Espa, which means you're still dealing in some other crimes. There's some other shit happening behind the scenes. You have other criminal elements who are paying you tribute for their criminal activities. So let's not get it twisted and think that on any level Boba Fett is a good guy, you know, because he's building this criminal community. You know, if anything, he's just a better businessman who has gotten to the point where he doesn't want to have to do these things and he'd rather pay people to do the things that he doesn't want to do anymore.
SPEAKER_06:And I like the way he won Chrysanthen over somebody, you know, another guy from his profession saying, Look, man, you could work for guys who don't care about you, or you can work for me.
SPEAKER_03:Sure. Yeah, he's a he's a nice crime boss, of course. Sure, but he's still a crime boss, he's still a crime boss. You know, I I would have preferred that he that he stay a bounty hunter, but this is his story. Uh, it's I didn't write it, it's not my story. It's it's this is the story of Boba Fett. And for the most part, I'm I'm okay with it. You know, it's uh it's not my favorite. I love Boba Fett. If you look around my room here, you'll you'll see that love of Boba Fett as the bounty hunter. But you know, Book of Boba Boba Fett, I would I think I would do the same thing. Had I had I been in his in his boots, I think I may have gone the same route. So I can't be I can't be too harsh. We all just want a cushy retirement, right? I mean I mean you don't want to work until you're until you fall over dead. We all want a cushy retirement. Tony, what are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I mean, I think you know, when you spend a a relatively speaking long time partially being digested by the beast, it it changes your outlook on things, and you might decide you don't want to have that life anymore. So I I totally get that, and I'm okay with it.
SPEAKER_03:Uh you could almost say it's a metaphor for marriage. I'm not I wouldn't I would I'm not gonna say that I wouldn't say that because my my lovely wife listens to the show, so I wouldn't say that. I'm just saying some people may say that being in a long-term relationship is very much like being slowly digested over a thousand years in the belly of the Sorlac. Some people would say that. I'm not one of those people. I'm just saying some people.
SPEAKER_02:Uh honestly, it it kind of gave you know, like when I was watching that when it first came out, it was kind of giving me uh, and I don't know, you know, I know we we all have other fandoms outside of Star Wars, it very much was giving me red hood vibes when he first came back and was trying to like remodel the the the Gotham crime lords, and and yeah, you know, like okay, like, yeah, we're still gonna do crime, but like we're not gonna target children, and we're not gonna do these things, and like I wanna be like, we're still not good, right? But we're gonna be better than we were, and so that that kind of gave me that vibe. And I mean, again, I'm okay with it. Like, do your thing now. When I was first announced Book of Boba Fett, did I think okay, we're gonna get more of his backstory, we're gonna get good, you know, we're gonna get to see more of him being a badass. Not that we didn't get some of him being a badass, sure. Um, yeah, and would I have liked that a little bit more? Probably, but I didn't have a problem with the way it went.
SPEAKER_03:And at the end of the day, we got to see Boba Fett riding a rancor through the town. And I don't think that was on anyone's Boba Fett bingo card. It certainly wasn't on mine. Um, but to see it, that's uh was pretty impressive. Why are we talking about the book of Boba Fett, by the way? I just which we went down the tension.
SPEAKER_06:We we were talking about John Boylega and we went over to you know the the Disney Plus, you know, the the merits of a Disney Plus show versus a movie, yeah. I let me ask you would would you think Finn would be a good choice for a Tales style show, or would you want something more in like a full Disney Plus series for him?
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, what I like if Boyega wants to come back, if big if what I would love to see, given the timeline and everything else, although I don't know exactly where in the timeline this would fit, so I'm curious about that. Like, how about you know we get Wim growing up a little bit more from skeleton crew, and he goes off and wants to be a pilot, and Finn's one of the people training.
SPEAKER_06:That is leading that crew, especially as someone who was not an orphan, but yeah, he was stolen from his family. So he would I think he would have a good bond with those kids. Similar life experience, as it were.
SPEAKER_03:Alright, yeah, that'd be pretty cool. I could see that.
unknown:Alright.
SPEAKER_02:Again, I don't know, I don't know enough whether or not the timing makes sense for that. Um, but Kathleen, if you're watching, uh pay the man.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, she does. She hangs, she she she hangs out, she watches. They have uh we have one viewer right now, and I think it's probably Kathleen Kennedy. For sure, or her lawyers, or her most likely her lawyers. Um honestly, for me, I would I as as I'm as we're watching these episodes this week, I want to see a Tales of R2 D2. I want to see a Tales of Detroits. Because as much as much as we've seen, if you think about it, we've seen 3PO and R2 everywhere. I mean in every series, they show up. I I don't I don't know if there's a series that we have or a film that we haven't seen R2 and 3P. They were in the Bad Batch. Did they show up in the Bad Batch? No, I I didn't okay. I couldn't look at it.
SPEAKER_06:I think they're in one episode of Rebels early on. They meet the Rukhes crew. Um, I don't think Bad Batch ever crossed pass with them. That was that was kind of a stretch, yeah. Like, how would these two meet kind of thing? Um so that one, um and or again, barring anything unforeseen, anything new, yeah. Uh, I don't think they're gonna cross pass because you we were you got a quick cameo for three three po and rogue one. But again, unless they just deliberately do something with Jimmy Smith's, I don't know how you get andor and three poor two to connect, right?
SPEAKER_03:But they're they're pretty ubiquitous, those two. We kind of know 3PO's origins. I mean, there's you know, we've basically been following 3PO around. I mean, was he built from scratch, or you know, what was his life like before Anakin repaired him, or was he built from scratch? We don't know. As far as I know, we don't know. Um, but it's R2 D2. He's the one that has some pretty major gaps in his history, and again, I I am not up on any of the new books that have come out. Um, and there's been so many books that in the EU that have been decanonized, but I think in canon, how far back do we go? Do we we don't have R2's origin story, as far as I know?
SPEAKER_06:No, the for the the earliest we ever see of R2 is in Phantom Menace when he's on the Queen's ship, right? So we don't know how how did he when was he purchased? How long was he on that ship? Yeah, he just showed up and we instantly go, Oh, that's R2 D2.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And was that was he assembled on Naboo? Did he come out of a you know a droid factory somewhere else? Was he purchased by the royal house of Naboo? To I mean, who who knows? Who knows? But I would love to see a tales of the droids.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, absolutely, and and uh R2 absolutely, we need more on him, but I mean there's others too. Like, I want to see I want to see a backstory for K2, I want to see a backstory for L3. Like, yeah, give me these, like, and they don't have to be, you know, whole like you don't need a whole movie about it, but you know, just give me give me 20-30 minutes uh and just tell me their story.
SPEAKER_03:They seem to with the tales, the tales do seem to revolve on light side and dark side. There's like usually a good guy and a bad guy that they're talking about. So um maybe we could do something like R2 and IG 88, you know, because their their paths do cross. Um, and in the EU, IG 88 had a very, very interesting story. Um, the whole IG series had a very, very interesting story, and I I loved it. I thought it was great.
SPEAKER_06:Do you remember the old droids cartoon from the 80s, right after returned? That was a great uh it would almost be great to almost uh reboot that, but sort of because the problem was after Return of the Jedi, we didn't know there was gonna be any more Star Wars. Uh so technically that show was set before New Hope and obviously before the prequel trilogies existed, right? So we followed these adventures with 3PO and R2 before they meet Luke Skywalker, was sort of the way it was pitched. It'd be funny now to do a a Tales of the Droids and almost do a homage to that old droids show where you follow 3PO and R2 around for like a three-year episode arc and they go through an adventure maybe while they were under um Captain Antilles's you know care.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, because that would I mean you've still got you've still got that that gap of time, you know. But um, yeah, like how did well I mean I we can kind of parse together how 3PO got into the how 3PO got there to Antilles, but again, it's like R2. Where was he before his service to Naboo? I'd love to see it. And then IG88, I would love for them to do a complete, they won't do it, but I would love for them to do a full-on page-by-page retelling of his story because it's just so good, you know. Built as a a military assassin droid, escapes from the lab that he was constructed in, um, becomes his bounty hunter, goes on adventures, and then uploads his personality to the Death Star and becomes the Death Star moments before Luke blows it up.
SPEAKER_06:Like actually, it was a I thought it was the uh second Death Star.
SPEAKER_03:I think it was the first I thought it was the first one.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, because they was I remember there was talking about he was having fun was it the second one? He was having fun targeting the rebel ships out in uh at Endor. You know how like they were picking up.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, was it was it the second one then? Yeah, oh yeah, because I well because we did see I yeah, we'll have to look it up because we did see we don't see well, yeah, yeah, because we saw yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because we saw IG88 for the first time in Empire. That's right, yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, because in the book it was it was around the time of Jedi.
SPEAKER_02:It says he was destroyed in 4 ABY, so yep, 4 A BY, that would do it.
SPEAKER_03:But that's but again, that story's not I don't think that's canon anymore. Um unfortunately, no, it's not with him being uploaded to the fucking Death Star. I mean, how cool is that? How cool is that?
SPEAKER_06:It was a great way to tie a character that we don't you you saw in one movie that doesn't show up in another, but you know, in like you said, just to have him represented casually in the Battle of Endor was like, oh, that's a fun little thing, yeah. Right, that's the the some of those tales uh tales of the bounty hunters and stuff like that. Again, it would it's it's not enough to do a full-on movie of barely enough to maybe do a Disney Plus series, which is really just a movie chopped up into chapters, but something in like the tale yeah, the tale series is perfect.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely perfect for that. Okay, so these episodes quick uh quick little bits of backstory here. Um uh the logo was blue. If you I'm sure everybody noticed this, normally it's just that that that yellow. This time it was blue. It that was uh just a nod to R2 D2. They did that as just uh a little homage to to our favorite little Astro Mech droid. Um, and then you know, Crash and I, you know, we know about um R2 KT. Um you know this droid was referred to as QT KT.
SPEAKER_06:She has a slightly different paint job, and yes, it wasn't uh the direct reference, but go on.
SPEAKER_03:She was, yeah, she was inspired, she was inspired by R2 KT. Um, but she's just a different, she is a a separate Astromech droid, and that was just a production call. They didn't want to have two droids with the R2 designation in the same episode at the same time. They thought it might be a little bit too confusing. Um, you know, but of course, you know, R2KT, she, you know, she's she pops around throughout the Clone Wars, and you know, we see her in live action for the first time in the in the sequel trilogy. And for those that don't know, R2 KT is a droid that was built um to honor the memory of Katie Johnson. And Katie Johnson was the daughter, the the young daughter of Albin Johnson, who was the founder of the 501st Legion, you know, the premier Star Wars costuming club on planet Earth. Um, arguably, you know, a pretty cool organization. Um, but she she did uh she was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. Unfortunately, she did pass at a very, very young age. And what's interesting was that she she had mentioned to Albin that she, you know, wished that she could have a droid to watch over her like R2 watched over Padme, you know, and so the Droid Builders Club, they they got wind of that and they did what the droid builders do. They organized the community, they scrounge for spare parts, they built stuff, they see and see things. This was pre-3d printing, you know, and they they really pulled their resources to present Katie with her own droid. Um, and it was by her side until until the day she passed. And then now now Katie R2 KT goes around to multiple events, lots of like pediatric cancer wards, children's hospitals, things like this. And I believe crash, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's a picture of of Katie under the dome of R2KT. Like if you if you open up the dome, I think there's a photo. There was a lot of people.
SPEAKER_06:I've never looked that closely in it. And the droid builders alone. Uh, if you're ever lucky enough to go to a convention where they have a a big representation, uh, I was just at MegaCon a couple weeks ago, and they had this huge booth. It's like a car club. These guys, you know, you would think everybody wants to build R2 D2, and there's a lot of R2s there, sure. But um, it's funny when you see the variety of droids that these guys come because they uh everybody each droid that ends up being like the the identity of the person who built it, right? And one of the things I liked in this episode is that we got to see it, wasn't just R2 R series droids like our QT. There was an R4. There was a uh you know, one droid, yeah, B Z got converted. I think he was an R5, maybe, but there was one droid that got converted in in um oh C4 was the the R5, and he got the uh the heavy the laser. Yeah, it was like the James Bond gadgets where each droid had a specific the pro and they're assembling the team. They're like, You're gonna get a welding torch, you're gonna get a man, and you're like, Okay, at some point each droid's like gimmick. Oh, R2 gets like the super you know deluxe super jets, yeah. And you're like, okay, it was just great watching like okay, every one of these gadgets is gonna play a significant part, of course.
SPEAKER_03:And I loved how I loved how they all had like the the caution striping that corresponded to whatever gadget they had, like that location on their on their frame. I thought that was kind of a cool little touch. Um, like not really low key though part, right? Like, yeah, this is the part that's gonna fuck shit up, so yeah, please be careful. Um, but no, it was it it was it was fun to see these droids and you know actually like catch some feels over like when BZ got sucked out into hyperspace. Oh, I was like, oh, that was rough. That was rough. I mean, R2 went on a suicide mission, he's got plot armor, so we know he's good. But BZ was like, oh man, I thought C4 would go get taken out before BZ, but um I don't know.
SPEAKER_06:I think that the droids, you know, yeah, all throughout Star Wars, we see droids everywhere, and there's always sort of that they're viewed as like the loyal pet or the companion thing. It was interesting to see uh for a case with um the commander, the colonel. I'm like I'm like whack, I'm like the whack. I was getting this rank wrong. Gascon was just dismissing them as just out of hand, kind of like you and Louie. You talked about how like there were certain officers in the military that don't they won't don't get to know you, they only refer to you by your rank and the you know the number to them. It's funny to see the droids sort of kind of stand up for themselves and say, Look, you we're on this mission, but you're gonna you gotta show us a little respect too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I just uh I think the uh oh I have uh let me see. Let me switch over to it. I've got um speaking of uh the markings, there's art the concept art marking. So um so Tony, let me ask you you this is your first time seeing these episodes. What are your thoughts on seeing these droids really taking on more of a of a personal type mission? And and and then and then Gregor. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Gregor as well.
SPEAKER_02:Well, uh I I really hope that we have not seen the end of Gregor. Um, I mean it sounds like we might have, which we know that that is what it is. Uh as far as the droids are concerned, I mean, this is uh this is the first time that we've seen this to this scale on the good side. I remember there was an episode early on where there was an evil droid that was sent in as like a spy.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, that's right. What a jerk Goldie, Goldie. That was an epic fight, though.
SPEAKER_02:Uh so it was nice to see you know the the yeah, the Jedi and and you know use this to their benefit. Um I mean, unfortunately, the arc is kind of boring, um, but it it was it was an interesting story, you know. It was good to see them, you know, be be relatively independent and do their own thing, um, especially because there's a good section of the episode where they're basically like, yeah, fuck the colonel, like he's an idiot. We're just gonna do it our way. Um it I really do wish in this particular instance that we had more of a voice uh for the droids. I mean, obviously, in this case, we have um we we have uh whack, and he uh you know, like can can voice out to that frustration of hey, you know, we're not just fucking droids, you know. Yeah, we you know we're more than that, and you have to treat us with the respect and all that. And I like that that there was somebody there to vocalize that. The voice is kind of annoying, but it is what it is, that's okay. Um and honestly, like if they wanted, you know, like if we end up doing a Tales of the Droids and they want to give us more D squad, I'm cool with that. I'd like to see more of that.
SPEAKER_03:So, Tony, you're saying you want more of the D. Uh absolutely. All right, bring on the D. I like your confidence. I like your confidence. All right, bring on the D. Uh, one other little tidbit that I found very, very interesting was about Gregor's helmet and the tally marks on it. Um, not in fact tally marks. Uh I mean they might be, but the design choice is that they were uh the hash marks, um, they were inspired by Boston Bruins goalie Gary Cheevers, who stenciled on his mask to denote the stitches he would have gotten had he not been wearing protective gear. So it makes you wonder. I mean, are those are those the marks that Gregor thought that he would uh he would have gotten had he not been wearing a bucket? Or are those missions, are they droids, are they other life forms? Uh who knows? But uh I thought that was interesting. And then of course the you know the digital camo pattern that's on there is pretty cool too.
SPEAKER_06:And it's interesting. Gary Chevers is is a famous goalie for the ruins. I'm a big hockey fan. Yeah, I grew up playing hockey. Uh goalie masks have become a sort of art form, not like pilot helmets. Uh, you know, Rebel pilots have get to have some like cool artwork on them. Uh Sabine Ren, I guess, is an influence on some of the guys on the Rogue One helmets, um, supposedly. And it was interesting that uh you know, a clone, yeah. We've seen them decorate the nose of their gunships, which is awesome, yeah. Which is awesome. But the idea that they would actually start, and Rex is a prime example, you know, those those jam guys aren't standard issue, but it's part of his personality, and he wants it on his armor. So it's interesting watching the clones almost like a hockey goalie. They incorporate their helmet as part of their personality.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. Well, and then look at uh what is it, Waxer? Waxer had Numa painted a little a little cartoon of Numa. I mean, it's yeah, the the individuality of the clones was really, really cool to see. Um, this was something else that I found in the concept art that I thought was really, really cool. And it's just it's those details that let you know that the people that create this show, they're us, they are fans like we are, and they put these little Easter eggs in there, and it's just these these bits of signage. Um, there's there's a place called the Lando Capes, so there's a cape store, Lando, like for Lando. There's the Admiral Snack Bar. It's a frap. Uh Dr. Evazon's cosmetic surgery, really. And of course, you know, if you're not familiar, Dr. Evazon, we get to see him, his ugly mug in uh episode four. Um, you know, my friend doesn't like you, and I don't like you either.
SPEAKER_06:You know, um, well, it just makes it look lived in, you know, a lot of sci-fi even before Star Wars, everything was sort of pristine and clean because they just built it from scratch, yeah, and didn't have time to cosmetically make it look dingy. The idea that yeah, this the simple walls in this town in a no-name town, the the audience would pick up on oh hey, somebody's tagged that wall, right? And just you know, the the level of I was impressed by a couple things was the level of filth in the town.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, especially like in that alley, yeah, where they were eaten out of the trash.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that was just especially being at Gascon's scale, like those some of those bugs were just ginormous.
SPEAKER_03:And he he went for it though. That little dude went for it, and he was munching out on some old crusty bread. Um, oh, this sign here the the abfar junior de jerk club, no wookies. Yeah, oh yeah, that's a nice touch.
SPEAKER_06:Adopt a wampa, and you wouldn't even pick up, you know, they go by so fast on screen that you wouldn't get that's the animators. It's more for their amusement, you know. They'll see they'll they'll know I worked on that wall, and that's you know, the thing I put in there. That's a little Easter egg for me.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, and that's exactly it. That's their their way of signing it, putting their little personal touches on it. There's um there was another group of signs, I thought these were pretty cool too. They're based on um classic LucasArts adventure games. So there was the uh Kawak and Monkey Island because Monkey Island was a huge Lucas Lucas Arts game, and some people don't put those two things together. And to be honest, when we were watching Skeleton Crew, I didn't make the Monkey Island connections, but there were so many, like revisiting uh Skeleton Crew, it's and and having played, I've never played the second one, but I played the first Monkey Island, and it's like, oh okay, there they are. But initially, it just it goes over your head because you don't think Monkey Island and Star Wars like, but it's it's all autoflucas arts, so it's just uh all right. So crash, what are your thoughts on this as a as a rewatch? You know, this is probably your like 15th time, right?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, um, I'll be honest, this is like my least favorite. I I remember when this first aired, and like the first episode, you're like, okay, cool, we're gonna have a droid mission. R2 gets to go on his on a mission by himself, and then it's like, okay, cool, we're on this planet and we're just wandering through the desert. By the third week, I was like, dear God, are we done with the damn droids? And then, oh no, we're not. Well, we got one more episode because it's a lot like the the the three people R2 episode where they you know they had the Gulliver's Travel episode, you know, adventures, and somehow they gotta find their way back to Commander Wolf. There's a great shot of KT.
SPEAKER_03:KT, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Um, and it was just like, okay, I get it. You know, we you built this arc around a bunch of droids that can't speak and and an annoying little frogman who can. I really thought they could have condensed some of this stuff in and so that the this could have been maybe a three episode instead of a four-episode arc. I'm being generous. Like, I could have done this in like two.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think they probably wanted to do it though, because there was there's only 20 episodes in this season, so they had these, they they had these four episode blocks that they were able to do something with.
SPEAKER_06:So they probably and and just by the end, you're like, Oh, look, Obi-Wan and Anakin, where the hell have they been for the like because you think about every episode you had to wait a whole week for you know, by three, four weeks a month went by, and we're just seeing Anakin and Obi-Wan again for the first time. You're just like, Oh dear god, I miss you boys. Yeah, but there's uh another great yeah, we're talking about Easter eggs about the wall. Did you did you catch the um a quellish on in the town? And and it was a literal walrus man yeah, action figure. Like they just straight up did the the the orange vests, I was yeah. Dave's Dave is one of us, and and he oh when he does the the character designs on some of these things. I mean, he'll pull a right. I think earlier there was one, or no, it's gonna be next week. You guys watch um the infamous blue snaggle tooth. Yeah, yes. He did he he's gonna do one of those. Um, you know, nothing's off limits with Dave. Yeah, the old canon, the Kenner line. I mean, there's just some great Dave's Dave is an Easter egg king.
SPEAKER_03:Well, because he's he grew up playing with them, and now he gets to play with them and and share that with all of us, his his friends, and it's great. And it's like what like when we see him, you know, when the Mandalorian came out and they were doing the behind-the-scenes videos of the Mandalorian, and you know, seeing him on the volume with the cast in costume, surrounded by this giant realistic screen, you could tell that he was the happiest person on planet Earth, like and he he does not take any of this for granted because he's now playing with life-size action figures, and it's the coolest thing ever.
SPEAKER_06:My my favorite Easter egg, and I don't know if you guys you guys don't do a lot of Disney stuff. If you ever wrote Star Tours, the old Star Tours, okay. Um, when they're on the shuttle and they're they're leaving the separatist ship, they run into that comet field in hyperspace. Yeah, that is an almost literal pull from the original Star Tours experience. Like you're in this on the ship in the in the ride, and you go through a comet asteroid field, and I and it was just one of those again, like Dave's a geek just like us, and I was like, You sly little dog, you you you could when when Wag comets, it's exactly how it was on the ride, and you and you bump into things and it shakes you around and you and you move on to the next part of the story. But I was just knew the audience would instantly get the reference.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and the um uh the space station where they were doing their conference, that was based off of something from Star Tours as well.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that was the hub. I think that was the hub for it, right? That's where Star Tours and all the ships go in and out of.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so yeah, and we and we even see I think we see a couple of times, we may have already, yeah, we've already gone past this, but um uh the Rex droid from Star Tours, voiced by you know, good old Pee-Wee Herman, um RIP. Um, we see we see uh him a couple times in the Clone Wars, I believe. Yeah, I think we've already passed uh both of this or yeah, the the appearances he's had, but it's just you know, and then now now it's like now we're seeing the flip side of that because now we've got Hondo at Galaxy's Edge, which is just like the coolest thing ever. And I I want to go. We need so we we need sponsors, we need people to sponsor our show, give us money so we can go on a trip to Galaxy's Edge and do a show.
SPEAKER_06:I'll let I'll let a little secret out. I'm planning a future Crash's corner segment. Yeah, I do over online for the Facebook page. Uh, I'm going to Disneyland with my family for May 4th, and I am gonna record a bunch of stuff for you, a little video postcards for you boys, and I'm gonna give you a little hands up.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, thank you. No, thank you. I don't I just keep that shit to yourself. I have I have no desire to see it, I don't want to see it, but I want to see all of it. So damn it. How many times have you been?
SPEAKER_06:Um oh god, since well, since how's up, too many. Yeah, well, uh there was a stretch where uh you know I was working in TV production, and my yeah, my family's a big Disney people. We we've we were going when my sister was like four or five years old. Now, as adults, you know, she and I sometimes we go on our own and we have a we're we're Disney adults, you know. We we got grown-up money and and we we play like we would have if we were kids, you know. So I've been to Galaxy's Edge a few times. I've been to both the East Coast and West Coast parks. Um we're this time we're going for the after. They have a they have a special, they just announced uh the new after hours Star Wars night at Disneyland. I'm gonna have some content for you guys for that. I'm gonna show you around. Um, because I think that's something you know, people who love Star Wars are gonna, you know, like you said, you guys have never been there. This will make you want to go. I promise.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we're saying as if we don't already want to. Yeah, we already want to go.
SPEAKER_03:Uh we are planning on going. Um we are planning on going, um, why did I do that in October of 2026? Okay. So that is our plan, but we're gonna be going to the one in California. Um that's where I'm headed. Uh oh, okay, cool. Yeah, Disneyland.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, they do a May 4th. They call it Seasons of the Force, and they have an after hours night. There's a new projection show they're gonna be doing in Black Spire. Um it's gonna be fantastic. I can't wait to show you guys and our listeners and friends on Facebook that we've been picking up on Swarzy Curious. There's gonna be some great stuff coming up. Oh my god, I want to go so bad.
SPEAKER_03:I'm looking forward, yeah. Cause we're we're big Nightmare before Christmas fans too. And we've heard that Disneyland really goes hard on the Nightmare Before Christmas thing for Halloween.
SPEAKER_06:So the whole haunted mansion gets an up up overlay, they call it, but it's just like an upgrade.
SPEAKER_03:And that's and that's great and uh and everything, but I'll I'll be in Black Spire outpost. So just don't even fucking look for me. That's where I'm gonna be. Oh. Oh God, I want to go so bad. So again, hopefully this is, you know, through all of our uh our fine listeners and supporters out there. Hopefully we can uh generate some funds, or you know, Kathleen will send us an invitation, give us a few tickets, and we can uh head out there. So fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_06:Let me ask you guys what uh about Gregor. Uh you're a big fan of the clones and the Mando culture and all that. What did and and being former military? What did you think about him being sort of I want to say enslaved almost? Yeah, the the Sultan, I never got his name. The guy that owned that shop, I you know, has an armor, he knew what he was.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, definitely an indentured servant. I don't know if we would go so far as to call him a slave. Um, but again, it's an outer in planet, and we knew slavery was a thing.
SPEAKER_05:Um, but he was definitely a little bit of like a little bit of memory loss, a little PTSD.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I would I would like to know more about you know the incident. Um like the battle. Oh, what was the name of it? Like Sahish, Shahish, something like that. Um but the battle that they were talking about. Um, I know that that was that was in a uh free comic book day comic where they covered that battle, but I don't think it's I don't think it's canon um anymore, but they they reference it. Well, just like just like the planet uh that they were on, what uh uh Abhar or something like that. Um that was uh that was a tales uh that was a Tales of the Jedi novelization planet, um if I remember correctly. Um what is it? Serish Sarish, that's right. Um so again, like you said, you know, this is Dave, you know, a lot of things that Dave probably loved became decanonized during you know the Disney transfer, um and this, you know, this big uh you know Holocron consolidation project. Um, so this is his way of rescuing things from the EU, you know, and it's just these little things, like you said, all the he's the king of the Easter eggs, and there were so many in this, but anyway, uh the PTSD was very real, uh, very real for that guy. But you see how like how quickly how quickly he gets everything back. Um but we do see this is this is a recurring theme that Dave doesn't let go of. He's he's really cognizant of it. Um, we get to see it done really, really well in Rebels. Um it's just maybe it was PTSD uh was a little bit too heavy, I think, for the clone wars. But I mean, you know, look at what happened on Umbara. You know, they they didn't need to talk about PTSD. It was obvious the way that that our boy Rex fell to the ground, you know, and so yeah, it's he's I as someone who is diagnosed with Ptsd and who lives with PTSD, I am I am very happy with the way that that Dave handles these things, because he doesn't he doesn't pretend that these things don't exist, he doesn't pretend or try to gloss over the fact that these clones are say what you want, but they are for all intents and purposes human beings. They're clearly he illustrates that each one of them is an individual, despite all being grown from you know the same, you know, bounty hunter spooch. You know, they're they're individuals, they're as individual as you and I, they just happen to look alike, you know. So he does a great job of portraying that. So yeah, tip of the hat always to Dave. For I don't know if he's got military members in his family, or if he just really appreciates veterans and military members, or if he's just you know, just got a lot of empathy. Uh, you know, but it's I'm I've always been very happy. It's why I'm drawn to the Clone Wars because of the way that it's handled. I don't like all the Jedi stuff because I'm just kind of like I'm over lightsabers, but I get it. That's what fills seats, that's what sells toys. So you gotta have the Jedi. I you know, I would like to see more clones and war in the Clone Wars. Um, but these last few seasons, we get we get a lot, we get a lot, and there's still so much more to come. Um, speaking of which, your homework, Star Warriors. Uh, it's gonna be a little bit of a different lineup here. You're gonna be watching season five, episode one, uh, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen in that order. Watch one episode one first of season five, and then season five, episode fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. That is gonna be for your homework. You guys got anything else as we uh just before we do our pimping?
SPEAKER_06:Um yeah, I'm off next week. Uh I'm gonna be doing some more Crash's Corner workout at C2E2. Uh, I'm gonna go see John Bega and some other people, and uh yeah. This is I'll tell you now because I'm gonna miss the the session, I'll be on the road. Uh, this is a great arc. I mean, this is just Chef Kiss Star Wars, Sith and Mandalorians, yes, Mandalorians and and uh a heartbreak at the at the end, and it's just gets heavy, uh I uh yeah, you're gonna enjoy this one a lot. Like, yeah, we talked about Umbara, we we hyped that up and it didn't disappoint. This will not disappoint either, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And and and Tony, just so you know, there's just like moving forward, the Clone Wars is just a trail of tears at this point, so just like just keep the tissue handy. I mean, there's lighter episodes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but there's a point that you kind of have to just know that that's coming because we like you know, look at what's ahead, it's the opposite of the plot armor, like you know what's coming at the end, so you've got to get there.
SPEAKER_06:Well, the thing is, we didn't at the time we didn't know this was the final season, like they was getting into some heavy stuff, and we were like, Okay, let's roll. Um, and then after the Disney sale happened, and then Cartoon Network pulled a plug on the show, and it was just like that's it, we're ending on that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, give me more, daddy. And and and he did, and he did. He gave us two more great seasons, short, but but still great. Um, yeah, looking forward to it. It is gonna be good. Hey, while you're there, see if you can get uh get Boyega to you know do a little a little promo for us.
SPEAKER_06:Uh I'm I'm working on it. I got some I got some plans to spread the merch around. It's kind of like okay, got a thing. Maybe make it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, if you you know, if you can get him to say something like, Hey, you're listening to Star Wars Safe Space, you know, or invite him on the show, ask me if he wants to come on.
SPEAKER_06:It's gonna be a minute before we get to the the the sequels, but yeah, there there's some people I'm kind of like putting it feelers out to that I know from the convention circuit, and I'm like, once we get to their part of the the timeline, I'm like, Oh, I'd love to have some conversations with these people, but that's part of my I feel part of my job with the Parma Flyer. I'm going, I'm gonna use my my experience on the convention circuit, and I want to bring it to the show and maybe down the line, maybe bring somebody in for a little chat. We'll see.
SPEAKER_03:And you and you need a droid, you need a droid. So when you come in, you I know, but you you need a full size, you need a full size Astromec to go with you.
SPEAKER_06:That that would be that would be fun. Sniffs would love it. Uh we'd have to lug that guy around.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it only weighs like a couple hundred pounds. I mean, it's not a bad man.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, I remember I had to help a friend we when we got our first R2 in the Cleveland area, and and he had a we had to lift it, we were doing a hospital visit, and they a guy from Columbus drove up to do this hospital visit with us, and he brought his R2 unit. He's like, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna need some help lifting this thing into the car. Oh my back. Yeah, those things are not lightweight. This was in the earlier, you know, this was they it was all in metal, you know. Some of the things you guys can do now with 3D printing and lighter materials is amazing. This was all steel and and yeah, fiberglass, and oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but now I mean it's this, it's like a whole like I've I've I've seen like the early like droid builder, like uh like build videos and things like that. Some people were building the frames out of wood, some people were doing it out of steel or aluminum or something, but most of it was steel, and then all of the gears and the electronics inside, especially like the the the motor control stuff, they need a pit crew to keep these things running. They do, they do. It's very, very impressive. And what I like too about them is that the um the operators, you normally never even know who the operator is. They're usually hanging back somewhere, they're off the side, you never see the operator. The one guy I saw we did uh we did a troop at the uh the Cleveland Science Center a few years ago, um and he was able to operate it with his phone. So he had it, he had it linked up to his phone, and he held his phone behind his back and was was operating R2 that way. And so you never he just you he wasn't even in anything that identified him as one of the R2 builders, he just looked like a regular patron.
SPEAKER_06:I used to do uh a gig with again a couple gigs with a guy who had some of the early droids, and as a rebel pilot, it was always funny. I I used to catch myself in her talking to this inanimate object, like it was a person. Yeah, I would like if I if you were running the droid, I would look down at your RT unit and say, Okay, oh, we're gonna go over here now. Yeah, I'm making eye contact with the droid because everybody watching me was what yeah, think I'm talking to the rebel, but really he's talking to you and and and play at the play. Disney's got um some droids now. They have uh they built their own droids for Galaxy's Edge. Uh right now Luke Skywalker is at Disneyland with R2 D2. And if you get see some of the videos of that, it's just so much fun to watch. You know, there's droids, there's characters. It's a playground for Star Wars fans. And if you get the chance to go, I highly recommend you go.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, like I don't have much soul left, but any soul that I do have left, I will gladly sell it for a ticket uh for for even a weekend at to Galaxy's Edge, and I will be able to uh pass into the force a happy nerd. We'll just say that. All right, that is gonna do it for us this week, folks. Uh, but before we head on out, we do have some obligatory pimpage. Crash is the only one that's uh representing. I'm representing Star Wars. I've got my ad at blueprint shirt on. Oh, there you go. I I couldn't, it looks like we've got a a cool, cute little Anakin chibi type of Anakin in timeout. Is that what's going on? Yeah, child murder would usually kind of get someone put into the corner for a timeout.
SPEAKER_02:If I set up at the bottom, it says calm down, Anakin.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that would that would have solved a lot of problems. Written and directed by George Lucas. There you go. There's a trilogy.
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SPEAKER_03:Answer the member questions. You will not get in without answering the member questions. They're not hard, it's just commitments to not be a fucking doucher. That's basically it. So it's our way of trying to make sure that we weed out members of the fandom menace because we don't want to look out for you guys. Yep, we want you to have a nice, safe, comfortable place to come and uh talk about Star Wars or learn about Star Wars, you know, somewhere where you're comfortable and empowered to ask and say, I don't know this. Can you help me? And somebody will be able to help you there. We've got a bunch of nerds that know this shit inside and out. We've got the keeper of the holocron. So someone, I mean, obviously you can just Google the shit yourself, but there's no fun in that. You want to ask the community and you want to get answers from the community, and that's what the Swarzy Curious face group is about. Facebook group is about. So come check us out. Um, and uh, I think that's gonna do it. So uh thank you uh so much for tuning in this week. Of course, always thanks to our veterans, active duty service member, um, members, for uh all of your service and sacrifice. We absolutely appreciate you, and we acknowledge that uh a lot of the things that we're able to do wouldn't be possible without your service and your sacrifice. So, as always, thank you. Um, and if that's it, anybody got anything else? Sounds good. That's all I got. All right, cool. All right, so uh that is gonna do it. If we do this, we'll get that queued up. All right, uh, so we're gonna see you guys next week again. Remember, episodes one, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen of season five. Um, have a great week. We'll see you out there in the galaxy. And as always, remember if nobody does does anything nice for you, do something nice to yourself. And we will see you guys next week.
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