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Own the Outcome with Tyler Deveraux
Own the Outcome dives deep into the real stories of resilience and triumph that arise from the depths of failure. Join Tyler Deveraux on a journey of inspiration, growth, and authentic conversation. Within every stumble lies a valuable lesson, a chance for transformation, and a path towards success. Each episode features compelling stories from a diverse range of guests, from entrepreneurs and artists to everyday heroes—all sharing one thing in common: their ability to turn adversity into an opportunity for growth. Because in the end, it's not about avoiding failure; it's about owning the outcome.
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From World Champion Water Skier to Real Estate Success with Ryan Dodd
World record water ski jumper, Ryan Dodd, shares his inspiring journey on becoming a global champion in water skiing. On today's Own the Outcome episode, Ryan tells his story which has led to his mental fortitude and the unwavering support from his family, showcasing the significance of maintaining a positive mindset, gratitude, and peace in the face of adversity.
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All right, aloha and welcome to own the outcome podcast. My name is Tyler Devereaux and today we have the one and only Ryan freaking. Dodd Ryan, welcome bro.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, excited to have you here, man. So let's get into those of y'all who don't know Ryan. You're going to get to know Ryan, and Ryan's a beast man. First thing that I'll tell you is we'll just do a little drip here. He is a world record ski jumper Is that how I'm supposed to say it?
Speaker 2:Yep Water ski jumper. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Ryan came to one of my classes about a year and a half ago or so, front row taking notes the whole freaking time like just all in. And it's been fun to to see your journey, dude, to learn more about you. I remember talking to you at the training used to be like damn, this dude's a beast man. So tell me a little bit about your journey, where you grew up? Because you grew up in canada, right yes, sir, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I grew up on a farm in the prairies in canada. I could see the Rocky Mountains about 150 miles away. A cattle farm. What part of Canada? Alberta, near Calgary.
Speaker 1:You know I lived in Toronto for a little bit. No, so I did a church mission in Toronto Amazing and lived all throughout Ontario. I loved it. Did you do my favorite candy bar ever? Wonder bars, bro. I mean bro, they're the best. Yeah, the best.
Speaker 2:Amazing.
Speaker 1:You probably don't even eat candy.
Speaker 2:Well, in the three months leading up to an event, I'm really aiming not to, but the last two weeks I was in Nicaragua and I got hooked, got hooked on these almond croissants and cinnamon.
Speaker 3:I couldn't stop, there's okay, it's okay, so you're normal, you're natural it happens, my uh nutrition guy.
Speaker 2:We have a call later, so all right.
Speaker 1:So tell me about your your just kind of your journey in the skiing space, then we'll get into the real estate, real estate side of things skiing.
Speaker 2:so I grew up on a farm in canada, which makes no sense. Our summer was like three months long and my dad he was like an like I would say like a state or provincial level skier, but he was a farmer and he would never put skiing in priority. Our family started like a cabin, like summer vacation sort of water skiing, and when I was nine years old, um, my dad brought me down and we had like this cool, we still have it with this Cooley so big Valley is the other term for Cooley and he was like, do you want to water ski? And I was like I just remember like I didn't really like it, I was like trying to do a tube and knee board. And remember like I didn't really like it, I was like trying to do a tube and kneeboard and.
Speaker 2:But I just responded impulsively yeah, and that was it. Then my dad all winter took his tractors with no permits, with no county approval, nothing, and just built like a hundred foot dam in our cow pasture. Over the ice did I go to the side of the hill, built this dam, didn't engineer it, who knows if it'll work?
Speaker 2:and then the spring we come down when all the runoff melts and we had this three-quarter mile long lake and there was freaking trees in it growing up and my grandma chipped in on the boat and you know I was, I was still wasn't skiing much, I was pretty much. My dad was so stoked I was like driving him after school and like um, but yeah, so started water skiing. Then the deal was you have to work, um or ski or do something, I guess like hard work. So there was in this was kind of to fill any and all free time was the deal. So I could work on the farm after school till dinner and after dinner or I could water ski or go to the gym. So I just kind of the picture of farming in Canada and like the way we were doing. It was not pleasant. It was literally like my worst, like straight up, absolutely no chance. So I would water ski or go to the gym all free hours, literally no social life. That's what I did.
Speaker 3:But that's how you get good at stuff you freaking go all in on it.
Speaker 2:Then the social life followed and actually we had a junior camp at our place with one of the best coaches in the world who was my dad's friend. I had a lot of neat circumstances tie in and that's where I met my wife, brianne. How old are you? 15. Oh, that's awesome dude. Junior national training camp for the Junior Worlds.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you're three-time, three-time.
Speaker 2:Or four-time training. You're three time three time or four time five times consecutive world champion in the last decade straight. Um, bro, yeah, so my my goal kind of in that point. I won the junior worlds that year, but I was like my goal was to be a world champion, world record holder, um, so yeah, I've been on this whole journey with my wife, brianne, as training partners, as she's my boat driver she's the only one who drives my the boat in practice like I'm the kite and she's flying me. It's insane that's sick.
Speaker 2:But yeah, and it was like basically, as sad it is for farming. I was like to get off the farm, to get out of my town, to get this life that I kind of had in my head from my idol at the time. His name was Jarrett Llewellyn and he was in West Palm on a man-made lake with this mansion at the end, world record holder, nice guy, so inspiring good vibes, and I just saw him and I had the chance to ski with him like a week a year and I took that week and all all year. Everything I got from that week with him was what just drove and manipulated my brain and pulled me and by the time I was 16 I was like competing head-to-head with him, like at open world championships. As a junior I mean, I was that obsessed and and yeah.
Speaker 3:So what was it like to compete against your idol?
Speaker 2:So the funny thing is, like when I got a taste that I'm there, it didn't impress me. Like when I got a taste that I can be with him, I couldn't believe that I wasn't beating him. Like I'm not joking, like it was so weird. Looking, looking back now I'm like this is insane. But it didn't. There was no programming, there was no one teaching me this, it just once I got a taste.
Speaker 2:Like if I beat him once in practice, even if he was sick and like didn't try, but I beat him that day, I felt that there was no reason that I should not beat him at the world championships and win the worlds. That was actually, and I kept staying with that. But that was really really, really hard for me to take, hard for you to take, okay, because I didn't win. Like I felt like when I was 16, because I was training with him and I had beat him in practice and I felt like I could jump as far as he could that when I went to the worlds in Italy in 2001 as a junior in the open worlds, I didn't win. I was absolutely crushed.
Speaker 1:Why do you think? That is Not that you were crushed? Why do you?
Speaker 2:think it is that you didn't win.
Speaker 1:Great question what did he have?
Speaker 3:Because you knew you could beat him.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, me in practice, like I guess I just wasn't as well adapted with performing on demand because the winning jump actually wasn't that far, it was a jump that I could have done. I think winning jump actually wasn't that far, it was a jump that I could have done. I think you know for a lot of those. So that was when I was 16. I did not win a world championships till I was how old is it? 20, uh, 29, okay. So I went 13 years feeling like I should win and have the world record and capable and progressively going farther away from it.
Speaker 3:So.
Speaker 1:So what got stronger, what got you to the position where you went from 13 years, by the way that speaks volumes about you.
Speaker 2:This was just. I was honestly miserable for a decade. Yeah, it speaks volumes about you, though, that you kept fricking going and I had herniated discs in neck and back and spine and broken ankles and this and exploded heel bones and just everything and financial stuff and loss of sponsors and sales in water skiing. What kept you?
Speaker 1:going, bro, like here's my question what kept you going? What was it inside of you that, like you know what I'm just gonna, I'm gonna keep going because most people don't. You know that. Most people don't what. What was it?
Speaker 2:that kept you going. There was no thing and it didn't feel like I was cornered looking for something else. It just there was. Again, this wasn't like something I read in a book, this is just my brain, would this? At points the belief faded a little bit, like especially the world record. Because this guy, freddy krueger, like when I was 18 I had jumped 229 feet and that day I could feel the world record. It was 233 feet in a tournament. I was like I called people, I'm doing it. I was so close and I tensed up a little and I slipped and missed it. So that was when I was 18. His record went all the way to 247 feet. Like this is like inches, so like two feet further is big.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:And he went 18 feet further and I couldn't even go near that in practice. So I was. That was that was really crushing. Yeah, um, to go to progressively feel more hopeless, um, well, I think I went through periods. Okay, I had to re-evaluate goals, like, okay, we're aiming for podiums now, we're gonna get a good baseline, we're gonna.
Speaker 3:I was just clawing right but hold on because that's because that's a key thing.
Speaker 1:What is up? Y'all Listen. If this podcast has brought joy or value at some point as you're listening to it, we would love it if you would be so kind as to leave us a review down below. That is how we keep this thing moving and finding individuals just like you to pour value into. Now let's get back to the show. You said this world record seeped out of the distance, but what you did is you shortly brought the vision down. You still had the vision of what you wanted.
Speaker 2:I had to readjust, to build a base that could, I think, help bring me hope, like the base of consistency. And then I started convincing myself okay, if I get consistent, then I can beat him when he screws up, right. And then, oh, I got him when he screwed up once, and then I'm there. And then, okay, now I got one out of five. Now we're working on percentages, now my baseline's here, and like it was just this whole little game to start to build belief and rebuild belief which I had so strongly when I was like a teenager. Um, then, honestly, I had like a life. You know, I want to talk about stuff. Like sure, I talk about stuff.
Speaker 2:I won my first big event, a big one that I just dominated. I went out to the bar and got drunk and partied with a bunch of guys. We were all ego-yapping and I got my butt handed to me. I'd never been in a fight and I did. I got almost killed. When was this? 2011? In Flint, michigan. And guess what? I was the first time leading up to that, that I was number one on the world ranking list for over a month consecutively. So I just had this kind of feeling coming. I just crushed it at this event where he jumped well and I beat him. Freddie and all the other top guys had this belief is strong and I literally, literally woke up on the pavement fractured skull, three parts of my brain bleeding subdural hematomas. I was in flint michigan. You're not supposed to go out there. Of course I didn't know and uh yeah how old were you at this point?
Speaker 2:2011 was at 26 and we just built our house and our new lake in Palm Bay and we just got married. I'm just number one in the world and about to go and crush it and win my first world and I got all the stuff lining up and then boom, and I'm almost dead and the brain was bleeding.
Speaker 2:They're gonna drill into my head. I had three spots bleeding and a fracture here through the skull and uh, this the. I told them not to drill in my head. I said no, you're not giving me permission to do it. And then, they.
Speaker 2:The bleeding stopped, so they stole the inflammation, the swelling and I was it was very, very serious traumatic brain injury and I had eight months of like, not raising my heart rate above resting. I was only allowed to lightly walk. I was in concussion recovery groups and meeting other athletes and, you know, started with an amazing performance coach and psychologist and I did everything naturally no medication. I refused to have any intervention that way and slowly built myself up. I started as for why did I never give up? I really couldn't. I felt like jumping was my life line. I felt like it. I literally felt like air, like to breathe. At that time, like those years was like jumping, like I honestly only felt okay when I was warming up in the moment and then after and the rest, I was uneasy and that's how I was for years, like a lot of years it was, I wouldn't say healthy, it was totally um, it was scary but here's the.
Speaker 1:The title of the podcast is own the outcome. Yeah, it's own the outcome.
Speaker 2:You can't control the outcome, but you can own any outcome, and it's and this is what I want to get into everyone's like why didn't you sue those guys? I'm like I got, I get tingles, right. I was like sue those guys, that was me. I was there. I tingles right now. I was like sue those guys, that was me. I was there. I was the idiot, my buddy even though my buddy was the one who mouthed them off, I was still there. I didn't stop them, I still walked outside. I still engaged. It's all me. I took absolute, 100% ownership in everything and my mental patterns and why I'm there, and my ego and all this like, yeah, I believe in that more than anything. Yep, I have a hard time communicating with people that don't I get very upset or I have to leave or I get angry or whatever.
Speaker 1:Um, but it's uh, because I think I'm so so believing it so much yeah, that, bro, I can relate to that so much like, like I really sincerely get irritated. I get irritated because it's like, because you see it is, it's just not serving. It's absolutely not serving to to them and to whatever, especially if you're on a team doing anything together. It's like you're not going to get anywhere that way. Like you taking ownership for it. You could have stayed, you could have been pissed at at them, you could have been pissed at your buddy.
Speaker 2:Instead, you just went in I went home, I went in, I sat in my house, I consulted people, I learned about the brain, about the mind, about meditation and routines and literally that's when I just went absolutely immersed into like there was, was there? Like I told my wife 90, probably 97 of the days for 13 years I've woke up and said this, like we were arguing about something, and I said I've said these three things to myself. I'm still not being nice right now, but I've said it for 13 years. In the morning I'm like okay, like I'm trying, like yeah, and I did a yoga morning breathwork routine. Still like, for this is 13 years now, like yeah, I'm it's. But yeah, I was not supposed to be jumping after they made it.
Speaker 1:So what are those things that you say to yourself in the morning.
Speaker 3:Positive, peaceful present.
Speaker 2:Positive, peaceful present yeah, and I just try to feel it like. I'm not always like feeling it like laying there floating in the clouds, but I'm, um, yeah, and there's a just a simple little. I used to do a 30 minute yoga. Now it's a 10 minute yoga with kids and more stuff.
Speaker 1:You want to hear something crazy. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, one of my affirmations that I've said for probably a decade like I changed my affirmations, but this one has stayed consistent for a decade is that I'm I'm a patient, I'm a patient present, I'm a patient present, loving and encouraging father you're adding that's good.
Speaker 2:That's good. I need to build it.
Speaker 1:That's because I found myself like getting well, not patient. And so it's patient, yeah, present, and positive what you said.
Speaker 2:Positive, peaceful, present positive, peaceful I need to be more patient as well.
Speaker 1:Positive, well, but if you're positive and you're peaceful, peaceful is present or is patience, you know.
Speaker 2:And I've tried to like, feel like I'll get the feeling, okay, what does it mean, meaning? And then I'll think, okay, like today in my day, like what is this? When will I feel this? And then, okay, this and okay, it'd be like the kids upset, positive, right or peaceful as I walk down on my the dock, like I'm just and present, when I'm engaged in my spin.
Speaker 2:Then I have, throughout my sport and my routines, like in my process to my sport, which is like a two-hour process, to like when I go on the water non-negotiable, it's the same every time there's a whole bunch of little stuff intertwined in there, but backing it up to the head injury, um, that helped me kind of start to unwind and build back to like life and like I was scared in the car, I had ptsd.
Speaker 2:They all say, whatever, I'm like cool, I'm gonna work through this, I'm not gonna take some stuff and cry about it. Um, it was awful though, and but probably because it was so critical for me to start jumping, I did. I had headaches for like the next year when I was doing it. I probably shouldn't have been doing it for for like health reasons, but for me, mentally, I think I think I needed to. And the neatest thing was my very first tournament back, which was um about eight, nine months after the injury I did a personal best jump of my life no way yeah, very first round it was and I had zero expectations.
Speaker 2:I was absolutely terrified, even like I was so skittish around people and I was scared to go to the lake. I just rode over the jump in practice and like people laughed and like what is he doing? Right? And then somehow I just like got out of this world into my space and had a personal best jump and longest jump of the year.
Speaker 2:Next event was the U S masters, which is like 60 years going, the biggest, most high pressure event of the year, and I won my first masters bro it was just the coolest, was very, very cool, but still I did not feel good, like I felt those moments were euphoric, but yeah, that was like um 2012 coming back so did you go?
Speaker 1:a decade of work and work and work and work and putting the work, we're putting the work. You finally get to a part where you have your best that you've done or you beat these head injury.
Speaker 1:Yeah, completely knocks you off baseline. You find yourself a way to get you back to baseline and now, by getting yourself back to baseline, your baseline has shifted because you've done the work here. But what I loved with what you said is you said you had no expectations. Sometimes I believe that our expectations get in the way of our gratitude and get in the way of just our being right, I was just smiling, walk around like I was just like I'm here, like I'm actually here and it was.
Speaker 2:It's like it took something so, so intense to get me to feel that and that's why I'm like this pattern of I don't want to have to have something so horrific to like grow. It just seems much more motivating.
Speaker 1:Bro, this episode is so good right now Like I'm excited for you to even go back and listen for you. Like, bro, your story is incredible. I don't think that you give, I'm just telling you from what I see from you. I don't think that you give, I'm just telling you from what I see from you. Yeah, I don't know if you give yourself enough credit for your journey and how remarkable the journey is I don't.
Speaker 2:I mean I I've just there's stuff going on like I don't know if I have time to like, or maybe I don't take the time to to do that enough. I used to write at night what I'm grateful for for a lot of years, like at least five years. I believe that helped. I haven't been doing it the last five, but there's. At that time there was zero. I know I had like two, four condos tied in with my wife's parents. We partnered on them because I didn't even know how to like make an offer or like change a doorknob, but that we had that then, which seemed like a lot, but my wife totally managed the the four tenants. Now it's like it's not that I was just thinking about skiing all day in my yeah, but, bro, your method works.
Speaker 1:So before we got on camera, we were talking about the real estate side of things and we were talking about really a little bit about your journey and I just paused, I just stopped and I said we're just going to dive in, we're going to talk about this stuff, and so your skiing journey real quick, then I'm going to circle it back to the real estate side. Your skiing journey real quick, then I'm going to circle it back to the real estate side. Your skiing journey you go head injury, then you do a personal best then you win a master's in our 2012.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then give me, just like, the highlights from there. Oh man, so it was a while there was a. I thought the highlight was coming. 2013, because the world championships are every two years, right? So that year, guess what I missed in 2011 from the head injury? The world championships. I missed it every two years. Guess what this also does? I'm still. I'm a green card holder, us resident, but I still water ski for Canada. I'm still on the Canadian national team.
Speaker 2:It's a government funded sport the same as the Olympics. We get a salary Guess how we get a salary, guess how we get the salary and it's for two years, based off performance at the World Championships. I missed the World Championships and I was ready to win that year before the head injury, so I lost my funding too. I lost my funding, but guess what my wife did? She was competing at the time. She absolutely rose to the occasion. She's in Russia on a natural body of water. She's the shortest girl in the event in slalom skiing she does is all about reach and this she ties for third place at the world championships and gets her funding. So it was pretty magical. And I'm at home because I couldn't even go on a plane, right.
Speaker 2:Like laying at home in bed and she's like it was so cool.
Speaker 2:That's so majorly clutch, but yeah so that's so majorly clutch, but yeah so then I, I worked back, started, I started winning right after that, like I was kind of 50 50 with freddy krueger at the time literally no one else won for over a decade really and 50 50 and I was just working on those percentages and working on my baseline. Baseline, um, like say, 90th percentile jump like nine, nine out of 10, where was my average? And working that up in practice. That was a strategy from sports psychologist. I still work so good.
Speaker 2:So that was my focus. Just so that means you have to be insanely ready. Like I don't hit the jump unless I'm in my like top top, I don't even do it. Yeah, so that was working on that in practice, working on wind percentages and events and just in my own world, working on that dial it up from 50, and then it took me about five years to get to like 90% win. So, whatever, there's 40-some wins in there. But, yeah, 2013 was the next Worlds. I was top seed, I was ready to win again and I just got so amped and excited and I tensed up and I didn't Like the door was open and it was absolutely devastating. Again, again, and I was the most lean and shredded and this and I had I had like a 10 foot gap on the competition and I screwed up in the finals yeah and then, yeah, I had enough of that.
Speaker 2:So, 2015 I won the worlds in Mexico and I've won everyone since, bro, pretty much everything, aside from yeah, there's the there's many ups and downs, with more broken ankles and crashes, and I missed a whole. What was it 2021? I 2020, I crashed and broke my ankle. I had to miss all of 2021 because of a poor rehab strategy, so my only event of the year was the world championships, and my freaking mantra for two years is world champ 2021 it's like so I had to.
Speaker 2:Literally. This is another crazy 2021. I went into the world literally with a not functioning, not healed right ankle, hadn't competed for months, was jumping like once a week and went in blind saying but I had belief, I know I can do it I know I'm 10 feet ahead.
Speaker 2:Everybody and I went easy in prelims did like one jump to make finals and I just said I'm going to take the gamble, turn the dial. This is another neat moment um for me, one another big highlight going to the lake for finals. I normally do my my nice music. I put on literally death metal driving to the lake. Yeah, and I broke out crying. Going to finals. My wife and kids were at the house. No more daddy time. I got my truck to drive to the lake for finals. It was weird because I was like I said I'm doing, I know how to do it. The risk was high. I had belief and I knew I had to go to a little bit of a scary place. And this is impulsively. I just turned the music and not what I had planned to do, and I went out and just absolutely crushed it on my opening jump in one, and that was pretty special. That was a high rate.
Speaker 1:And were you? You cried because I don't know it was. You just came out. You knew that you.
Speaker 2:And it was scary, it was terrifying. And I have so much to lose now with family and my sports, life threatening and but I chose to do it. I said I'm doing it. I don't know why, you wonder why? Because the risk is high, but it was such a funky thing and I just absolutely did it beautifully with ease. So that was a really neat moment and that was 2021, 2021. Yeah, that was just that. One was tough, Like 19 was like for me, it was easy 17 was like.
Speaker 2:17 was like I'm in shape, I'm here, I'm going to crush it, crush it and come in like these are the worlds. Like, yeah, 15, 17, 19, there's some little. 19 was hard. I had a hernia disc in my back and I was actually totally out most of that year, but I this like it's. It was more whatever. 2021 was gnarly like each building up to each world championships, like there was some crazy journey. That one was, that was just a little glimpse of a moment.
Speaker 1:That was sticks what was it like to call your wife after that moment? She was there, oh she was.
Speaker 2:I skied her in the shore and hugged and oh yeah, because she's driving the boat, non the events, she's not allowed. That would be totally biased, okay, okay okay, but yeah, she was there cheering um. What was that?
Speaker 3:like my dad was, it was beautiful it was really cool and the kids and she had been so proud, bro, knowing that the battle, sorry we had one kid, cruz, wasn't even born.
Speaker 2:He was due in the next week and ari was there at two and my dad and it was wild, totally wild. So much going on and and then last last world championships were 2023. Um, that was more calculated and on a plan and executed and didn't really feel anything. It was quite odd.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just like oh, I just did this plan. It would be like I did a presentation and it ended.
Speaker 2:Like it was very weird, to be honest. And now I'm on some new journey and, strained in ACL three months ago, won the first event of the year, had a massive jump in practice this spring that I've been kind of dreaming of this spiritual experience and landed very odd. This beautiful jump Didn't feel anything, but my intuition said something was up. I had no pain A couple hours later. I couldn't straighten my leg. Jeez, I was actually driving to a job site. I hopped out and I'm like in these flip-flops and I'm like I can't straighten my leg, no, and I'm hobbling around and I'm like, oh, no.
Speaker 2:I still competed in the next event, lost by a foot and then got an MRI and not so good yeah.
Speaker 1:But, bro, like think about all the challenges along the journey and the obsession Like what I want people to take away from this is how obsessed you got about the little details that led to a big result.
Speaker 2:What I believe people get obsessed about as a big result without doing the little things that get you there yeah, for sure, only the stuff, all the daily stuff that, like I asked last, when I was filling out the questionnaire for the podcast today, yeah, I was like what is, what are, what are my strengths? I don't know. I don't think it's like perseverance.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, yeah, well, resilient yeah, and resilient, but the I don't even know what the full definition of perseverance is. But I would be thinking like, yeah, I am every day waking up, just it's this, there's, yeah, there's a few days where now I at least leave and go surfing, but I'm switching to. Like, in the last 20 days surfing I did 20, I think like 20 to 23 hours of yoga, 50 hours of surfing, a couple hours of hiking, three hours of biking and 10 hours in the gym and I tapered late strength training back because my body was saying no, this is in 20 days like and then family time and hanging out and thankfully business just was like 30 minutes a day.
Speaker 2:Somehow it worked out. Um, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:When I look at you, it is, it's like I'm like. I'm like it is persistence, resilience, consistently, like consistently. A lot of people can be resilient for a little bit. A lot of people can be persistent for a little bit. I don't even know if that even works, because persistent, when I look at persistence like I love that you use that word, because that is that's consistency over time is being persistent, right, yeah, but like being knocked off baseline, getting back to baseline, like that's how I define resilience is being knocked off baseline, coming back to baseline and then kind of like we talked about, then your baseline has shifted. Yeah, because you were strong enough and resilient enough and persistent enough to get you back to baseline.
Speaker 2:This spring was a long like I, I thought I also stopped drinking like a year and a half ago um but then I got all this extra energy and got more ambitious and I'm like, oh no, like it hit me this spring like a bunch of stuff in business and this and that and loans and debt and this construction and that. And then my going to a tournament and the kid gets, has our little guy cruz, has seizures and sick family and all at once tenants leaving like boom, boom, boom, boom, just gone and they're like where? And then lawsuit and I'm like it just imploded and I'm like flying Australia for a tournament, like to ski in a river, and I jumped in the dark Like this was just, like it was a crazy time.
Speaker 2:But this that was this spring. Yeah, I was just. This is the most like without me doing something. I didn't do anything. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1:What I love about you, bro, it's like what. I didn't know this, we haven't talked about this at all, but we met each other about a year and a half ago, but you reached out to me in the spring. You reached out to me in the spring and we've kind of like commented on each other's posts and, like you know, kept engaged. But you reached out in the spring on one of my posts and you said something along the lines of well, you saw, you reached out when you knew, you saw that I moved to orlando. We kind of like chatted about going surfing at some point and getting the families together, but then you would, I posted something, and all I remember is that you commented back and said something like man, I don't know what you're going through, I don don't know what's going on, but if you ever need somewhere to chat, like, I'm here.
Speaker 1:Along those lines and that was had to have been in spring, when you were going through shit. Yeah, how powerful is it though, bro? Like I don't know if you recognize that about you, that I we have not talked about this at all, but like that, your default mode is to be like you don't even know what's happening. You don't know what's going on, you, but you know you're going through some shit. But your default is hey, man, if you need anything, I'm here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was so impressed by it, bro, and I'm even more impressed by it now. It's not like publicly, like people that do this aren't like. I'm not like posting I did this right. It's like, but yeah, I do. I'm, yeah, I want to help people who or be there for people.
Speaker 2:When it there's my intuition says something is up, like in our sport. I read I help even some of my competitors, like quite a few, and some formally pay me to coach them and I'll do training camps for them. But it's also like at this point I'm like, if you're into it and like you're serious and it's hard and you want help, I'm just like I'm here, like I do like and I'm some of the top women jumpers in the world, um, and other fellow friends that have you know, want to start something in real estate. I found most of my friends a little first investment property or helped them with it, or aside from business, just just like. Yeah, I mean I don't know it feels and just to relate to people that are trying, yeah, trying, going through the same thing you're going through.
Speaker 1:That's it, Freddy Krueger, that you're talking about. Like bro, think about that. He was training you, you know, helping you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he coached me when I was 16.
Speaker 1:I remember the time yeah and he kept winning you kept getting better, but he kept getting better. I believe it's a freaking, it's a hack man like it's because you're pushing him. If you weren't there to push him, yeah, he wouldn't have done the things that he did.
Speaker 3:If people aren't there to push you.
Speaker 2:You wouldn't do the things you do the guy who's helped me most in real estate. His name is jared doyle yeah he's uh, local in brevard county.
Speaker 2:He, this is insane. The first I did, my first to start really getting into real estate, we refinanced. I asked my two wealthiest, smartest friends what do I do? Refi your house. I go find a mortgage broker, go to her applying for this loan, just to pull 400k out of my house to start this thing. I don't even know what I'm doing, don't even know where I'm like, how I'm gonna spend the money or invest it or what to buy. Had not even thought of this yet. I just needed to do this. So I did this. And then the mortgage broker's like ryan, you really got to meet this guy named jared. He's an ex-pro baseball player. He reminds me of you, he's. I think what he's doing would be good for you and I'm like I'm so sketched out and skeptical like what, who's this?
Speaker 2:whatever, I'm like she gave me his info and I'm like, hey, hey, dude, what's up? Um, just to give you a call and chat about real estate. He's like, yeah, dude, come over tomorrow. I'm like what shut up that's awesome and I drive over.
Speaker 2:He's got this big jacked up truck with gold rims in this mansion and I hope and I'm just about I don't even know who I'm meeting right, and I open the door. He's like come on in, dude. He's so cool, like, walking into your office here, pulls me in, brings in his office and he's like shows me all his corporate books and llc for every company he does. He pulls open his computer, shows me all. And I'm still a little skeptical. I'm like I don't know. He's just like opens everything, the kimono I love it.
Speaker 2:I'm part of my brain's like what do I have to pay? Or like what's he trying to get me into? So now we'll go. This is 2000. Just speaking on behalf of people that technically are your competition, that want to raise the level of excellence. By raising yours, they want to raise theirs by raising yours. Right, this is also one of my matches.
Speaker 1:Do you want to know what competition means? To conspire together? Yeah, that's what it means. To conspire together. Yeah, that's what it means. That's the. That's the.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's amazing, it's the definition I know, huh we haven't had like meetings about how we should, but we've. We've kind of lightly talked about like he's like, oh, we should kind of start similar businesses together that are compatible and synergistic, whatever. But we haven't. But that would be amazing, yeah, um. But he just like showed me and then so now we're that was 2017, you know, every like say, two, three months, I've somehow kind of poked him and asked him a real question like hey, this is happening, what do I do?
Speaker 3:this is a real question, yeah, like not like hey, bro, what paint color.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the start it was like here's my spreadsheet. Ryan, fill this thing out when it punches out this number, bye, yeah started.
Speaker 2:It was kind of annoying. I'm like, what about this one? He's like stop, yep. And then finally I sent him this address. He's like, bye, I love it simple. And then he's like, just keep doing that. I did so now, literally just kind of did what he said, whatever it's seven years later, we've like 10 times what we have and he still get this has not received one dollar for me. He has not asked me for anything. He has not pushed me to do anything. He's not. He's just there and then get one house it was.
Speaker 2:He was still doing some single family at the time and it was like through a wholesaler and I like apparently outbid him and then we discussed it. He's like, dude, you beat me on that house and but he specifically said I don't care because I know I will always be better. And you could say, oh, wow, he's. I was like, dude, that was amazing, that's amazing. I said I feel the same about jumping, yeah and yeah, so we've. Oh, he's cocky. No, no, that's great, it's great thing, but now he's, he's, he's, yeah, he's in, he's in a whole nother world of stuff, right, yeah, he's not looking at the palm bay single family.
Speaker 3:So it's cool, so cool, bro.
Speaker 2:I love in our sport that's quite rare, which is it's not really. It's a few guys thinking sort of like that.
Speaker 1:But but like backtrack again with what you've done is you went all in on it. You know, you told me, you start diving into bigger pockets. You know, your wife told you, man, you didn't even know how to change a light bulb, and we were talking about, like, how did you do it? And you just went all in bigger pockets, consuming as much as you can. And then you build relationships and you listen and you execute. That's what makes you great, bro, is that most people will listen and not execute. Some people won't even listen. They definitely won't execute you go execute.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I would listen. Why else would I listen?
Speaker 1:But somebody that you're teaching, that you're training, that you're trying to help, and they listen, they execute. Tell me that doesn't like. Light you up, oh my.
Speaker 2:God Bro, yeah, yes, I mean, that's priceless.
Speaker 1:Do you know who Eric Chatterton is? By chance. Okay, chattered in his by chance, okay. So, eric, there's probably we've talked a bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love this dude yeah, I don't know if he was. Was he at the event that you went to? Okay, he was the actual one that I sat. Oh, I love it bro.
Speaker 1:I love eric man and what I love about eric there's nobody that calls me more than eric, nobody. That's cool, but what eric does is he'll. He'll ask. What I loved how you said I asked a real question, because eric doesn't just call and be like ask some generic question. He asks specific questions, like I can tell he's done the work to get to a point where there's this stoppage and he's like he asked a real question and that's beautiful, cause now I can give a real answer, yeah, right, and then he'll go in and he'll execute and then he'll come back and he'll be like okay, I did this, I did this, this, this will happen, and he's obsessed with it I think I've separately, without you knowing maybe or maybe not been doing that with him, um I love it so it was like I found I left the conference that I went to and I said I'm gonna be a part of a 40 unit deal, somehow still not hit the end within a year and I haven't.
Speaker 2:But this spring I found which was a 13 unit uh, my first bigger than a triplex that I've and I I saw it through a facebook group and did my due diligence and a lot of work and energy and time and then I said, hey, eric, yeah, what do you think of this?
Speaker 2:and he was like, how did you find this? I love it. Um, it was 479k on facebook. I ended up getting it for 285 and we talked about partnering on it, actually, and then he said, you know, it's not really in his buy box, I guess, sure, but it is very near to him. It's south of Dallas an hour in the Cedar Lake District and, regardless, we talked a fair bit. Then he mentioned his construction company and we referenced some stuff, and then I honestly, he said I think you might just be moving faster than I can go, bro is what he said. And I'm like, yes, like I'm buying it this week.
Speaker 2:I'm starting like it's, I'm not, and I had loans in queue and yeah, so I bought it and I've, I've, I've kind of showed them. Here's an update. Here's an update. Here's an update. Yeah, um, but yeah, we're, let's say, two-thirds done the full remodel with additions, and I just refined three places to buy it, yeah, and then another three to I close on a loan tomorrow for the next draw and we're, yeah, so it'll be 15 units. And someone asked this is maybe not to your textbook, but like the, the way the math is working now is basically any rent that I get, even within like 70% of what I think is market value. We're going to be doing great. Um, yeah, he, but yeah, I've been.
Speaker 2:I kind of wanted to show him that I will persevere not just as an athlete, I will try like I can handle and I thought, why not Again? Again, not what you said, told me in your conference, but I thought in the, if I can suffer through this alone, then I think I'll be a more valuable partner. I felt like if I jump in and partner, I feel like I'm going to be annoyed or annoying or asking.
Speaker 2:but I think if I've done it once, I just maybe this is wrong, but I think I'll be a better partner, because I do want to be a partner with people yeah but I thought I, I thought again maybe this is like the farmer thing, like you're not supposed to do it this way, but whatever, we're doing it, whatever we're doing I'm going to show him at the end when the signs up. Yeah and uh, but then I need help with property management. I haven't even started that.
Speaker 1:Okay, but there's so much to unpack from what you just said, though. Yeah, you said in the beginning, you said I didn't even know I was doing this refi, I didn't even know what I was doing with the refi. This is a separator, though, bro, because most people I believe most people who are not successful the time that they, it's like they need to know all these things before they're in a position to take action. Successful people are not like that. They take action knowing that they're going to find these things.
Speaker 2:They need to put together business plan for this. Like I knew that I know them, I can do the math like on my hand right now, which I think is going to be hard for me when I get into bigger stuff because, like your math, math isn't. You know six line items but it can be.
Speaker 1:It can be from the beginning standpoint, and then you can get deeper.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, so good, though. And then another thing that I want to point out, though, cause I want to make sure this is not missed. You said cause I think there's a huge hack. You said I will be part of a 40 unit somehow. And that somehow is huge, dude, because it tricks your mind. It's like, yeah, I'll be. If it's whatever it is that you're trying to achieve, that's outside the realm of what your belief like you talk about is, like what you believe, then your mind would be like no, I don't think so, it's not possible. But if you just look this little word of like somehow, yeah, now your mind leaves imagining.
Speaker 2:it starts the yeah, whatever, okay, somehow Okay somehow.
Speaker 3:Like okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somehow I tricked you. This is great. You're a beast, bro. I love it. Man, your story is amazing, dude.
Speaker 1:What you've been able to overcome is amazing and I want you to recognize it. Thank you, because you're an achiever, and what an achiever does is you're always measuring yourself off in an ideal state right, have, ideal state right. Have you ever read the gap in the game before? No, okay.
Speaker 1:So all of you achievers out there, there's a book called the gap and the gain by Dr Benjamin Hardy. I shall read phenomenal book and here's, here's the ideal of it, here's the premise of it. You are an achiever and any of us that are achievers will do this. Where we have this target, this goal, this state that we're, that we're working towards Right, right, and so we will, and we're obsessed with it. But but what happens? Is we're that that ideal state that it's always in the distance, because you're always progressing, you're always growing, there's always this next level, and so you've made all this progress. But the issue is that you've, you know and you've made all this progress, but if you're always measuring yourself against an ideal, there's always a gap here and that gap keeps you going. That's what makes you great.
Speaker 1:But in times of stress, in times of doubt, I believe one of God's greatest gifts is the ability to reflect, and reflect is to look back at the starting point. And when you look back at the starting point, even if it's just for a second, to be like, damn, look how far I've come, which you did in the beginning of this, cause you're like man in the beginning of real estate I didn't even know anything. And now well, now I do know some things you reflect back and you realize how far you've come. It might not be where you want to be, cause you'll never be to where you want to be. It's like the horizon You're never. It's now. Everything is gain. And when you recognize the gain now you have confidence. You have dude positivity, you have dude, you're happy and you're like let's go, and then you can go again. Right the gap and the gain. There's a healthy, healthy balance there.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we did a little more formal spreadsheet of like where the real estate has come to this spring before we kind of made this move on this building and another duplex and a few, and it felt it did feel cool to like, Because I've honestly not like kept track very well. I just know where it's moving, which I would really like to improve upon. But yeah, I did. I do remember sitting at my desk oh wow, this is cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is cool, bro. Your journey is amazing, man. The things that you've done are amazing, the things that you've overcome. Your journey is amazing because of the things that you've overcome. Your journey is amazing because you've continued to own the outcome the entire way through. And that's why, man, when dude, that's why I wanted to have you here, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know, just so you guys know in the very beginning we'll kind of wrap up with this, but I always want to get real In the very beginning and this is going to. I think that this is going to surprise people because of what they just heard you say, but you were a little bit nervous in the beginning of what to share and what you should share, and I don't even know what my story is. And is that true?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm nervous because it feels like this is a moment to be useful. And then how do you do it? So I was like I didn't want to just come in and talk about myself, and unless it's purposeful and I do I say I aspire to inspire people. So thank you for helping organize that no, bro, simple.
Speaker 1:I just show up and ask questions, man, but I want you to understand like that is. Your ability to serve, your ability to help others, is predicated on your ability to get in front of people and put yourself in the uncomfortable situation you're on. You're willing to put yourself in uncomfortable situations and turn the the knob up, like you said when you, you know, when you um took that jump in 2021. You turn the knob up, turn on the music, turn the knob, take the risk. You're willing to do that. But, like putting yourself, bro, you've got to put yourself out there, and all of y'all listen to this. You go and send this dude a message to remind him to put yourself out there, because your story is how you impact. You are how you impact. So how do you impact? You tell your story.
Speaker 1:It's amazing and you continue to create a new one. Like, bro, at any level, like right now. Dude, I'm going through shit every day, like when I truly and sometimes this is what I'll do, I'll just list it out because I'm very. One of my superpowers is I compartmentalize, like I will just compartmentalize it. So I go through this, compartmentalize this next thing and I just kind of forget because I'm just next, next, next, next, next. But when I truly sit and I reflect, like we talked about, of all the shit that has just been coming and there's a lot, there's a lot but the narrative in my head, the whole way through, is I got to get through this because it's going to help other people get through it quicker. I got to get through this man. When I get through this, the story is going to be amazing, and when I get through this, the impact is going to be amazing. When I get through this, that's what keeps me going. And so how do you impact, bro?
Speaker 1:You came to my training year and a half ago and I was wow, yeah, you're definitely doing that I just talked about the things that I had done and now I'm trying to do new things so I can impact at a deeper level. Man, and you've done so much in your life, bro, and it's it is inspiring to me. I'm very inspired listening to your story because it helps me remind myself to get down to the granular things, the small things, to help me get to the big outcomes. So I appreciate you sharing your story so what are the granular things like?
Speaker 2:what does that mean?
Speaker 1:so think about your skiing right where you said you're trying to get this one percent better, this one foot better, this okay, so you know what it is in skiing and the thing with that which I haven't found anywhere else is the measure of accountability and the feedback and response is unavoidable.
Speaker 2:You can't just sneak an effortless, good feeling, jump because like it's, you can't, because the ramp, the impact, the g-force, the ramp. If I'm three pounds heavier, my legs are. If I'm tight, it's instant feedback. So I just I haven't found like how to get this in life, but it it has forced and cornered me into. I think what you're saying is the granular level stuff and it's measured to the centimeter your distance regardless of variables, so it just cornered me into this way of thinking.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure it doesn't like come up with from me how did you know those measurables.
Speaker 1:How did you determine which? How to measure those measurables and how to focus on getting that little bit better and that the ramp and the weight and the. How did you learn that?
Speaker 2:just testing little tests, like one variable at a time. Everything's the same, all constants, and then you just change one thing and you test it for a long time. Just play with one tiny thing. All things the same, no other stuff, no other manipulations. Absolute same time of day, same routine, same driver, same weight weigh myself before, weigh myself after. Same routine, same playlist, same mantra, same this, same weather conditions, which is all hard to manipulate. You have to dial this in. And then how else can you test the same prop, the same this, the same amount of gas in the boat? Brianna does the same thing. We have the same routine. It's like don't talk right now, Talk right now, Like all this stuff. The same decompression routine, take the same notes. And then you're going to gather some data, put, put it into a spreadsheet and measure it and track it over a month and then say how did that work right?
Speaker 2:track it over a month yeah, do these exact same things for a month and manipulate all that stuff and obsess about it all day, every day and the night before, and then go. Oh, how did this slight change in my turn work? Right, it's not try a turn once?
Speaker 3:but that's like.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about, bro. Most people will will try that and they'll get the result for the day or just one day, and you've got to track the day. But, dude, you've got to track it over time. You've got to track over time and the time. Then you but you truly track, because you can't. Whatever, whatever you, you have to measure what you want to improve. Right, it's what it is. You have to inspect what you expect, and so you go and you inspect these little things over time, and then you look at the data, bro, it's the same thing in marketing, it's the same thing in sales, it's the same thing with your properties, these little things, then the impacting here it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:I'm just not to be honest, I'm not doing it the same, like I have some of the skills transferring, but I'm just not. I'm not behaving the same. Yeah, in this world, like some parts are caring, which have been helping, but like the other stuff is not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think maybe how long you've been in this world.
Speaker 2:I don't I mean been in like the real estate world coming in. I don't even know if I'm in right, you're in.
Speaker 1:Trust me, even though listen the first time. I had sex. I didn't know if I was in either, but okay all right, no, I'm in. That's where I'm life yeah, you're in. Yeah, you're in okay but how long have you been in the space?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just progressively been more in, and right now it's like, okay, this feels in when did you do your first deal outside, like when did you do the right refi? I mean, we had some little stuff. I didn't even know it was happening until 2017.
Speaker 1:And I was like I start 2017. Yeah, when did you start skiing?
Speaker 2:When I was a baby, 91 or something.
Speaker 1:When did you start measuring those little things?
Speaker 3:I mean when I was Obsessively, when I was 10,.
Speaker 2:I was writing down every minute of training and just trying to get the most training in the three months, two and a half months.
Speaker 3:That's so nice.
Speaker 2:Right, like every day at a calendar in the glove box of the boat. One day you see the slalom tricks and jump. One trick, one slalom, one jump. Smiley face Right, it was real.
Speaker 1:That's so awesome.
Speaker 2:Then it was journaling and then really, really tracking was like after that head injury, when I got fed up and I said, now I have one shot in my life to do this and do it right now. Massive sense of urgency was like tracking data with the boat, learning about props, my stealth, my morning, my evening and journaling and boom, 2011 was like. That's when I was like, yeah, way more bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you said this massive amount of urgency. Urgency is energy, and energy dials in our focus like this. Just focus on what you're doing. My the episode on the outcome episode that actually posts today, yeah, you check it out.
Speaker 2:I'll check it out.
Speaker 1:Check it out because that's what it talks about how focus is a superpower and it brings you down, and so when you get as hyped, you knew what you wanted to achieve. You knew what you wanted to achieve in the in the space. Do you know what you want to achieve? Achieve in the real estate space?
Speaker 3:I did but then I did it Okay In the real estate space what I thought was the thing to do.
Speaker 2:Okay, and it was. We had a level of spending and to live. And I said by the time this was 2011,. I said and I was like, oh, I'll buy one property.
Speaker 2:I had all those stories that didn't make sense in there but the one that was for sure was I saw people come out of the sport. So it's very dangerous, right, a few of the guys I looked up to get injured and have to stay doing it and have to stay current when they really shouldn't have been to pay the bills to still be the guy they thought they were. I said I want to not have my identity tied to that identity tied to that. I want to be a human who does water ski jumping, who does other things too, and I wanted to be financially able to do whatever the heck I wanted to do. When I thought I might want to retire, which I threw an estimate out to be somewhere around 40. So I thought by the time I was 40, I wanted to be able to live on this. I had in my head then 200, but really it was about 300 K cashflow from real estate.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I hadn't even looked at the fricking spreadsheets, I just kept going like a total thinking Just, I know my math, I know my equity, I know the cashflow. And then this spring I checked it, before we even did the apartment building, and I was like, oh, cool, which was weird? Yeah. And I went and bought another apartment in a duplex and and now I feel even more and so, yeah, I got to what I thought was something. And now I'm like, hey, doesn't it cool? Yay, I had like a smile. Now let's really dive in. Is what? Yeah, I felt like you said the whatever you said, so I really had a goal yes it didn't.
Speaker 2:It was like three minutes at my desk where I smiled that's how I am.
Speaker 3:Bro, didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:That's how I guess what it does, though, for me now. I got to feel it the last 20 days, so I'm not retiring yeah I still want to break my world record.
Speaker 2:I believe I can. I have a slight leg injury hamstring thing going on right now. I had the freedom to skip literally this weekend as a pro event. Um, I'm not able to hit the jump, but I was able to lightly surf and work out with my team in nicaragua. So we impulsively left for 20 days with a one or with a one-way flight, bought the flight at the airport to return, extended it, spent 20 days there, absolutely spending family time, working my body and my mind and this and that and surfing. Um, I can financially and time-wise do that now. So that was what I also had in my head, which alleviates pressure, pressure from my jumping. Yes, I guess what? When we were going to go home, we flew back two days ago. I said I'm ready to jump, let's go like, let's go home. I got six weeks now till the till the event that I plan to compete in this fall. Um, I believe I can break a world record again and I want to try.
Speaker 1:Let's go bro, that's so sick dude.
Speaker 2:The real estate business enabled me to alleviate that pressure, to skip stuff that felt like I would have needed, which would have been, which was my identity, and now I can surf and chill with people and be, work on my family and dive into this business and meet people like yourself and, I believe, still jump back in and be better than if I didn't have this in my sport.
Speaker 1:That's the hook. That's the hook of the episode, bro, because that is that's the outcome. The ultimate outcome is the ability to do the things that bring you ultimate passion and just joy, you know, without the pressure of having to rely on it. And that is broke the quote.
Speaker 2:Was I forget if it was Sean White or somebody else? It was. The thing I fear most in life is to hate what I love most. Did I say that?
Speaker 1:right, yeah, well, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it's right, but I get it.
Speaker 2:The thing I fear the most right this is to end up hating what I love most. So if I love most, first my kids and family, but water ski jumping is what right? It's still in there and like this, it's spiritual and flying and connecting with the universe and whatever's happening. It's insane. But the biggest fear I heard him say that and this was around that time when I became more motivated in real estate was like that would be just devastating if I ended up bitter hating this Because you needed it, because I needed it and had to do it and beat myself down, resented it and didn't get this outcome and didn't get the medal in the moment I thought I needed it.
Speaker 2:And all the stories we know like no, I'm doing it now. Like and people ask, oh, why are you jumping? Like everybody's, I don't know what they're talking about me, but like my best moment this year jumping was at home with no one watching brienne driving and me sitting on the back of the boat tingling from this like magical, freaking 250, some foot jump I had and us connect, like literally connecting. She's driving me, she's flying me like a kite, like yeah, this is what I want. Um, I don't want that to die.
Speaker 1:So I'm like bro, you're a beast. That's so beautiful man.
Speaker 2:It's like something about surfing right.
Speaker 3:It's similar Like yes but this is still.
Speaker 2:it has that part of surfing, um, but when I get to connect to wind and air pressure and like I'm a plane, like with the feeling of the surfing in the water and but we don't get it much.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like once a year I got that three second feeling that felt good. The rest of the year it didn't feel good. Yeah, I'll still take it.
Speaker 1:You're a beast, bro. Oh, that's it. That's what keeps you hunting for it, man, Cause you know it's there now it's going to get it. Thank you for sharing your story, man, and I know that you'll put all your contact info and everything below and go follow this dude, go let him know how this episode resonated with you and go share, man. Chairman, you know you also have a purpose, and it's to. You want to help build homes in mexico, correct?
Speaker 2:we have done that in the past. I haven't for a while, but I mean, yeah, we did homes of hope. I raised money, um, and built the first year one house and the next year's two houses. This was in she's 2015, 16 think. Sweet. Haven't done it for a while. It was in Ensenada, but I still have all the contacts and that was probably the most beautiful real estate experience. But that was before I was really thinking I'm an investor.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'd love to do it again, okay.
Speaker 3:We'll give some information. Yeah, I was going to say it's super cool.
Speaker 1:We'll throw some information in the show notes and how people can participate and help on that kind of stuff as well. Ryan, thank you for being here. Bro, thank you for owning your outcome. Listen. Thank you for owning your outcome to help other people own their outcome. Ma'am, you're an inspiration. My ma'am appreciate you you inspire me. Thank you, dude hey everybody else out there, live always with aloha Peace.