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Own the Outcome with Tyler Deveraux
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Exploring Life's Waves with Slater Trout
Renowned surfer Slater Trout joins us to share his exhilarating journey from the shores of Maui to conquering some of the world’s most challenging waves. Slater opens up about his childhood adventures and how embracing fear and calculated risks have been instrumental in his life, both on and off the board.
Slater shares his journey as an entreprenuer with his one-ingredient skincare brand, Momona. On his journey, they set out to create the world's cleanest moisturizer. We also unpack the evolving nature of friendships that have fueled his ambitions and propelled his success in the thrilling world of big wave surfing.
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All right, aloha and welcome to Own the Outcome podcast. My name is Tyler Devereaux and today we have Slater Trout Slater, so pumped to have you in office. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stoked to be here Anytime we can do something like this at home on Maui. It's a no-brainer, it's rare huh. Super, super rare, especially a studio like this, like I feel like I'm in New York or LA or something. This is like super, super high-end and nice. So thank you, bro, stoked to be here New.
Speaker 1:York, la, but with the Maui view, which is that's the best of both worlds, totally so love it man for those of you who don't know Slater he is a first off you're one of few people on the planet who don't you need need to follow him but also big-time surfer. I'll let you tell your story and how you got into it. You got into it young too. You grew up here on Maui and now surfs what's the biggest wave you've ever surfed.
Speaker 2:I'd say I get that question all the time. I try to downplay it a little bit, but I would say on the face, the actual part of the way that you're surfing, I would say probably about 40 feet.
Speaker 2:so scary, oh my lord not the biggest anyone's ever done, but big enough for me. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I did four and I got terrified. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it. The thing people don't realize is the ocean, especially in hawaii, is so powerful. I've never understood what it was, but I've surfed all over the world. I lived in california for a long time, florida, different places, east Coast, and it just like you can take a four foot wave here and you can take a four foot wave anywhere else and there's just no comparison. It's just such a different type of power out here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So a four foot wave in Hawaii is respectable.
Speaker 1:So God bless you. Yeah, there you go. So how do you approach this? So how do you approach this one? I have a number of questions, but how do you approach fear, like, what is your strategy? Cause I don't. You started surfing young and you started big wave surfing even young, which I didn't know that until you told me that today. Were you nervous or was?
Speaker 2:it just kind of like that's what you did. Yeah, it was. It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:I have always kind of been drawn towards, um, I would say like adrenaline is probably the right word, but with things that are, I always I have this term calculated risk. Okay, so I've always, I always use this and it's it's kind of a comfort word for my wife because when I go and do crazy things in her mind I always say it's calculated risk. I'm not just you can look at my instagram or see what I do or follow me and kind of think, hey, this guy's just going and you know, hucking his body into giant surf and out of airplanes and doing crazy stuff, and yeah, that's a part of it. But everything that I do is super calculated, planned out, trained for. Um. Safety's always like the very first priority.
Speaker 2:Um, but growing up I just I loved getting into rowdy things. I love to hang with my friends and go, and whether it's riding skateboards behind a golf cart and hitting ditches or um shooting fireworks at each other, um, seeing who could dive the deepest of the bottom of the ocean, um, just pushing our limits always. That's kind of how I grew up and, um, my, I have an older brother, tanner, who I'm super close with. He lives on the mainland still, but he's like so different for me in the sense like I'm very much like just go find the scariest thing I can do and see if I can conquer it, and he is a lot more reserved and like thought out.
Speaker 2:So, it's kind of fun to have that dynamic. Yeah, just growing up man I was, I was always kind of like searching for like the next crazy activity and I guess now into my young 30s hasn't really slowed down I'm still kind of seeking that adrenaline, I guess I love.
Speaker 2:Those are good friends, bro, that like push you, because when you're in a position where you're pushing past your limits on a consistent basis, your growth is totally and and you know what I noticed too it's you have you have different like waves you go through in life with, especially with like your friend groups and stuff. And so, like I have my buddies when I'm five, six, seven, eight, and we're doing crazy stuff. And then I kind of move on and do a little bit crazier stuff and that's like another set of friends eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. And and it just keeps going.
Speaker 2:You get into high school, you have your little crew in high school and they're like down to get after it with you. And then you graduate high school and they kind of go off and do their thing and you're still trying to get after it. So you find new friends, yeah, so it's always kind of about, you know, finding those people who want to match your energy at that point in your life. Um, and that's that's been really cool for me to live in different parts of the world and travel and meet people that are at the same wavelength as me in that time of my life. And whether it's skydiving or big wave surfing, building a business, fitness, whatever it is, it's like. It's like God just almost brings these people into your life at the right time, and then he also takes them out at the right time too.
Speaker 2:So it's like you have these evolutions of friendships and I think that's been a really, really cool, especially with my journey. Having those different relationships with people has been an eye opener, for sure.
Speaker 1:Some people I love how you said that God brings them in and takes them out I think some people that terrifies them of. It's almost like they're scared to leave these people, this current friendship, because they feel like they're leaving people behind. I just have a different viewpoint of that and it sounds like you have a different viewpoint of that there's no pain in what you just described.
Speaker 2:It was actually beautiful totally and there's there's definitely a hurt in it, whether it's a relationship uh, you have a girlfriend and the breakup goes bad and, um, you kind of miss that era that you had and it's like a close of a chapter and open of another. Um, but it's also, I think, a blessing the majority of the time, because for me it's it's like a close of a chapter and open of another, but it's also, I think, a blessing the majority of the time because for me it's like those people weren't serving me in my life anymore and I also wasn't serving them. So it's kind of a two-way road and you just see, like this natural kind of separation and like I never looked at that as a sad or a bad thing. I looked at that as like, hey, this is how it's meant to be, and there's no hate or you know, kind of bad feelings or bad vibes.
Speaker 2:It's always just like this is the path our lives are taking and I'm super grateful for the last four years or two years that we hung out and had some crazy times, but, um, you know, wish you the best and let's go in and go get the bread, you know. So that's the mindset I've always had. Maybe people look at it differently, but I truly believe that God brings people into your life and takes them out when the timing is perfect and you just have to like, accept that and let go. You know, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love how you said that you were also not serving them. It's like that's a great way to put it Like if and I believe this like you, you need some friends around you that you can just feel comfortable with, cool, that they'd come to your house, you don't think about it, but I also believe you need friends I use that term come to your house. They come to your house. You're like I got to clean up. Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 2:I gotta make sure things look good or man, I gotta, you know, level up. You need friends like that, totally, totally. And if you don't and that's that's why I say in a relationship you never want to just be taking, taking, taking, um, it's got to be a 50 50 kind of deal. So, um, I think, recognizing when you're not adding to that relationship anymore either and it's not necessarily something you're doing or it can just be as simple as it's just not the time anymore yeah and so, um, I think a lot of people are are like, oh, this person's not giving and we're not giving anymore.
Speaker 2:But it's like, well, you're also not giving back. So maybe there's communication needs to be had there. And I just look at it as divine timing. And when one door closes, a way bigger door opens, and I usually I find that that's kind of the way it goes. It's not like one door closes and a smaller little crawl hole opens up and you try to seek through it. It's it's. It's always been really positive.
Speaker 1:So that's an abundant mentality man. That's the epitome of abundance, yeah, and your relationships, like because you're in business with your wife, yep. So Momona, yep, skin care. Yeah, let's talk about Momona First off. Why did you start it?
Speaker 2:What does momona mean, by the way? Yeah, so momona is. It translates. It's a hawaiian word, it translates into a couple different things, um, but but the one we kind of pinpoint is fat, and so momona is a beef tallow based skincare brand, so um a huge passion skin point beef tallow.
Speaker 2:So beef tallow is the fat of an animal, of a cow um, and we take the fat and we render it and process it, filter it, clean it and then it turns into this incredible skin moisturizer. Um, yeah, it's crazy. So it it's been used for thousands of years, so it's it's kind of goes back to the ancient times of, you know, hunter, gather. When you hunt and you get an animal, you use every part of it.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of waste in today's world and, um, I think we need to honor the animal that you know we're eating. The meat, you know the organs are for medicinal purposes, the hide is for leather. There's just so many things the bones, the bone marrow and then the fat. So most animals now are being processed for the meat industry hamburgers, steaks, everything that we're consuming and there's so much good fat called sweet fat. On it it's spelled su, it's like it sounds like suet, but it's pronounced sweet.
Speaker 2:And that fat has so many good benefits in it um, vitamins, minerals, uh, it repairs the skin barrier and people have been using it for thousands of years for hair care, skin care, um, cuts and rashes and bruises. And so my wife and I, when we first met this was 2019, she was dealing with some acne on her forehead. She'd kind of never had it before and she was getting super self-conscious. She's been a model her whole life, so her image is super important to her, and I had been surfing a bunch. That year. I was in Indonesia in the mental eyes and I was dealing with melasma, which is discoloration of the skin. So, um, I had these like dark blotches all over my cheeks and my forehead and my nose and my upper lip from the sun.
Speaker 2:It was so. A lot of people say it's from the sun. I've been in the sun my whole life and I had never had it. And in 2019 I got it.
Speaker 2:I was using a bunch of different skincare products. I was using really bad sunscreens. I was using really bad moisturizers after the sun. I was just putting bad stuff on my skin and at the same time, I was also trying the vegan diet, so I was like it was the cool, hot thing at the time. I'm like what's this all about? I'm going to check it out.
Speaker 2:And so I think there was a lot of change in my life. I was not putting great stuff on my skin. I wasn't eating the healthiest kind of um unprocessed foods and my I saw it in my skin and I was super self-conscious about it. And so my wife and I COVID hits and we're just in the dungeon just like doing research. No one's leaving the house, it's that whole time and we're just going down the rabbit hole on holistic skincare and just natural, ancestral living.
Speaker 2:And we saw a huge shift. We discovered beef tallow Um and we people are like we're putting on our face and it's helping us all the stuff it's. It's one ingredient, skincare, um, and it's changing people's lives, and so we ordered someone Etsy from this little seller in the South that has a farm and, um, it was incredible. It just changed our lives, and we used it for four or five years and got tons of friends on it. We sent it to our family and people and they were like, oh my gosh, this is incredible, but there was one thing about it, and so we could only find beef tallow skincare that smelled like beef.
Speaker 2:It smelled like hamburgers, so you're putting this moisturizer on your skin and you smell like a hamburger, which isn't really ideal. Most people want to smell like a hamburger, which isn't really ideal. Most people want to have, you know, smell like vanilla or eucalyptus or whatever. You're not really hamburgers and I remember vividly giving it to my parents and my dad. He's older and his skin is getting pretty dry in his arms. He was putting some on his arms. They have two Australian Shepherd dogs and instantly the dogs come up and just start licking him and they're licking his arms and legs and he's like I can't wear it because it it smells like beef and the dogs are eating it and so that kind of flipped the light bulb on in our heads. We're like how can we have 100 grass-fed, natural beef tallow be a really nice texture and consistency, a nice white color and not smell like anything? Have no beef scent?
Speaker 2:so we just got to the drawing board and started testing a bunch of stuff all in house and, um, we finally got the process figured out where we could render it and get the smell out, and there's no added sense, no added preservatives, nothing, it's literally one ingredient. And, um, so we had our son, uh, last november, so a year ago, and so, moving into the into 2024, um, we just said this is the year to hop into the business world and go for it. We have our product. We're super passionate about it.
Speaker 1:That was number one for us so passionate Can I just say Very passionate. The minute you started talking about it, your whole physiology changed.
Speaker 2:There's things in life that you're self-conscious about, and when you can cure that self-consciousness, you can't believe it. It's like you're, you're there's, you're you kind of just like you can't believe it. And so, um, for me, going those years with with the skin discoloration stuff, meeting girls, trying to meet people, it was always just a point of of contention for me and I was like, how do I fix this? And when we figured out that there was literally you could put this one ingredient moisturizer on your face and it would heal me, um, so that, so that was our biggest thing. It was like we want to be passionate about it and we want to use it for a long time and really understand it, and then and then hop into it and sell it, cause we know we can do it better, and so, yeah, so this year Momona was born um Hawaiian roots, growing up here, living here, we got the Hawaiian word for it, uh, which, which means fat, and so that kind of worked out well with, you know, animal fat cow fat, and it's never been.
Speaker 2:It's always come in a jar. You can only buy it in a jar and people are sticking their fingers in jars and you know like everyone's on their phones touching receipts and dirty stuff, and so we wanted to do it out of a pump bottle. So it was like super sanitary. No one's ever done that. So we designed an airless pump bottle a really cool one and we got the texture of the towel right, put in a pump bottle. Um, we partnered with a good friend of mine, tyler, who lives in California and uh, and we launched my Mona this year and it's been incredible.
Speaker 1:Congrats, man, that's awesome, thank you. Seriously, though, I love, I love speaking with people who are passionate about what they do, and the minute I ask you about like dude, your passion just comes out. Yeah, yeah, I actually have some here. I brought something for you to try, so yeah, that's our, that's momona.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's super cool, it's got like it should smell like it shouldn't smell like beef. If it smells like beef, something's horribly wrong. No, just kidding, that's. That's why I smell it, bro, but yeah, it's got like a really good texture and dude. Put it all over the head, put it everywhere on the neck back.
Speaker 1:That's what's great about me totally back of the neck, dude, back of the hands, like it's supposed, it's like. There's like no smell, yeah, and you don't need like you don't need a whole lot.
Speaker 2:So like a little bit goes a long way, um. But what tallow does is it repairs the skin barrier. So we have a skin barrier that builds up to fight off, um, you know, bacteria, uh, and literally builds up the barrier enough to where, like little cuts and scrapes and stuff. It just strengthens your skin. It's, it's like a great like the texture.
Speaker 1:It's like a, it's like a high end lotion. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2:That was our thing. It's like, how do we get animal fat to become a high end skincare brand, um, and so the big thing was having the packaging, having the texture, having an unscented um, and it just works.
Speaker 2:Dude, people love it, and so we've gotten some, some absolutely insane feedback I mean it's really cool to see I mean people sending in photos and videos of I've been using it for four days and it's cleared my eczema. It's like all these things and we're just like, oh my goodness, like that's what makes it worth it all the hard, build, business, building stuff.
Speaker 1:Um is the reviews and and seeing people stoked on it dude, we'll put the links in the, in the show notes and everything for sure. But like, well, here's what I love about the story. Like, first off, most people would just get stuck in. I got acne, I have, you know, the skins. They just stay stuck in the situation. You guys, didn't you go look and search and you find a solution, and I just believe that principle. Like what you focus on, you find.
Speaker 1:Like it's there, there's solutions, Even if you don't see a way it doesn't mean there's not a way Like it doesn't mean that God doesn't have a way, like there's a way.
Speaker 2:Totally. And I just gotta say your skin is glowing right now. Bro, this is like a totally different person. Right now, my man Looking good, man, I'm excited?
Speaker 1:no idea. I knew that you guys launched the company, but I didn't know any of the stuff you just talked about. I did not know. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's, it's. It's crazy. We were at the airport and we were flying to California for our launch party um a few months back and we met this family, super sweet people, and they were just asking us what we do. He said, hey, we just launched a skincare brand. It's called Momona. And they're like oh, what is it? Is it a sunscreen or a cleanser or whatever? We're like it's a moisturizer. And it's one ingredient. And they're like what do you mean? It's one ingredient. How is it one ingredient? What else on earth is one ingredient Like water, like?
Speaker 1:what.
Speaker 2:Like that's crazy to people. And we told them it's beef fat and they were just blown away. And again we gave them some to try and they were absolutely in love with it Just the texture and the way it made their skin feel. And that's the thing. Like we're my wife and I, like I said, in 2020, dove deep into like non-toxic living and trying to be as healthy as possible and we're just freaks about it.
Speaker 2:We just are obsessed with, with trying to optimize our health and, for us, finding something like things that go on your skin. People don't realize this. When you eat something and you digest it, it goes into your bloodstream. It's distributed throughout your body.
Speaker 2:Putting stuff on your skin is distributed into your body and bloodstream faster than eating it see, I didn't know that so if you're not going to eat some, if you're going to put something on your skin but you're not willing to eat it, it doesn't matter, it's still being distributed in the same way. Um, and so that's something people don't realize. You don't ever want to put anything on your skin that you are not willing to eat. That is a huge thing and that's the message we're trying to convey to people. Is one ingredient edible Like tallow is a, is a is a really good cooking material, so it's. It's great for cooking eggs or steak or whatever. It replaces olive oil or any sort of cooking oils. Um, so you can literally take Momona and you can moisturize in the morning, and then you can take the pump bottle and you can put in your pan, squirt some in there and you can cook your food in it.
Speaker 1:Bro, that's incredible.
Speaker 2:It's incredible, yeah, and so we're trying to kind of take on the skincare industry cause it's it's big pharma.
Speaker 1:It's what it is, you know it's it's.
Speaker 2:It's toxic the minute. Your average skincare out there right now and I can bore you all day with skincare stuff. Bro, I'm loving this your average moisturizer is 60 plus ingredients, that's crazy why do you need 60 ingredients for your skin?
Speaker 2:yeah when tallow is one ingredient a, d, e, k, all the vitamins, all the minerals, everything you need. Um, and my wife and I went into to this skincare brand, this, this big chain that sells a bunch of brands the other day and we picked up one of the kind of head honcho companies and, um, dude, looking at the label on that is just scary. You can't. You can't pronounce the first four words. We sat there, we're going, we're going like you don't know what it says, and I'm like how would you put that on your skin and ingest that into your blood, never even bro, in my, in my, um, like my, the desk thing behind my desk on the far right hand side on the bottom.
Speaker 1:I want to see what?
Speaker 2:because I have more stripes I want to check it out, dude, yeah I've never even looked at it, bro. No, it's crazy man.
Speaker 1:There's preservatives, emulsifiers, all sorts of crap you just don't want on your skin I don't even know if it says the ingredients, does it have them on there? Oh, there we go on your skin. I don't even know if it says the ingredients, does it have them on there? Oh, there we go, no, yeah.
Speaker 2:These are. I can't pronounce any of them. Yeah, so look at now. Pick up the Momona and look at ours. So good, dude. One ingredient grass fed tallow, grass fed beef tallow. That's just one. That's all you need to know that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, isn't that I did not? It's wild.
Speaker 2:I mean, I did not know that you absorb it faster when you put it on. Then when that's nuts dude what you put on your skin. That's why, like sunscreens are super toxic yeah um, and they have all sorts of really really bad stuff in them so do you use any sunscreen or so? My wife and I make our own, you do, and I think, down the road we eventually want to launch a Momona sunscreen.
Speaker 2:It's not our focus right now. We really want to hit the moisturizer and the skincare industry that way, because that's kind of our passion right now. But my wife is like a mad scientist. She's mixing. I come into our bathroom so hold on, you guys are the ones who felt like made the you guys did that.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're the ones that came up with the whole idea of getting the texture this way, the unscented, getting it in the bottle. That's all us, because we were purchasing it, like I said, from these Etsy sellers and like we love them, like the small farmer people like, go to your farmer's market, buy tallow, support small. But we just knew we could do it better.
Speaker 2:And we weren't fully satisfied with it. And, like I said that, the texture, the whip, the jar, the glass jars, and then the smell, like the we, we, we kind of we wrote down on a whiteboard.
Speaker 1:Here's the things we don't like and here's what we can improve on.
Speaker 2:And then we just went and did it and know how it is Like, but looking back on it it's like it's like you cannot do it or do it, and the only way to do it is to do it. You know so you just got to go for it, and I think having our son was a big catapult to doing that, and it's something we're just passionate about how come?
Speaker 1:Because, do you believe? I believe lots of people would say like I just want you to think of the things you said that I believe are abnormal for most, which is, you know, the skin stuff. But you didn't just settle, you went and found a solution. Then it smells like beef and you didn't love that, and so it's like. But most people would just be like but it is what it is. I'm getting the results, but no, you like there's going to be a better way. And then you have your kid. What's your son's name? Again, stetson Stetson.
Speaker 1:You said that Stetson is a great name. Thanks, yeah, stetson. A lot of people would be like, well, I would start this, but, man, I'm so busy now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause I got a kid Totally, and I think it'd be easy for me to sit here and just say yeah, man, I just woke up. One is don't have a massive ego around it. I think, of course, we all want to roll out of bed and be like I'm going to be the CEO and just it's going to be me and I'm going to build this thing by myself, and then I'm going to sell it and have all that. You can't have that mindset. For us it was like OK, we got to be realistic. We have a kid, we're still working on the influencer stuff and brand deals I've been doing for 10 years, so we still have those jobs we got to take care of, but we still want to build this brand. And so that's where my friend Tyler came in, who's one of my best buddies, and we we said we need someone else on the mainland that can help us do this thing, and we're not gonna do it without that help.
Speaker 2:And so I think we kind of like humbled ourselves and realized we needed that help. And once we opened that door it was, it was a game changer for us. And so we partnered with my friend Tyler. He came from Vegamore, which is a massive hair care brand. Okay, um, they're worth billions of dollars. They're just crushing it. And they brought him in years ago, um, to help run the finance side of things. He's a UCLA finance major, super smart guy, way smarter than me, um, and he's our partner in this. Now he was just getting kind of burnt out on the hair care industry and working in corporate, yeah, and he'd always wanted to found his own brand as well. And, um, we talked and he's like I put in my two weeks, man, I'm thinking about starting this brand. And he had a couple ideas and I told him, I told him about Talo and I was like dude, we really want to do this. And he we sent him, so hold on.
Speaker 1:He told you that before you guys even chatted.
Speaker 2:Dude, we had a catch up call. I kid you not, it was just bro to bro. Hey man, how you been, how's your boy do like just that? Yeah, he's like, dude. I put in my two weeks at Vegamore and I, and a light went off my head I said I said no, you didn't he's like tell me more about it. And we filled him in on the whole towel thing and he'd heard about it and seen it and so he tried some and he was like dude, this stuff is incredible, I'm so hooked. And he's like I was going to go off and raise a bunch of money and work with some finance bros and do this thing. And he's like but I have the opportunity to work with some friends, some really good friends of mine, and um, and a lot of people say like, don't bring friends and family into business, and we're like dude, I would rather work with the homies you know, and we have good enough communication to where we're going to keep things cordial, um, and respect each other.
Speaker 2:And uh and yeah, so, dude, that day we literally were like let's go for it. And so he's our partner in it and he's been absolutely incredible helping us build this thing and doing all the things that we don't necessarily want to do or specialize in. That's been huge to pick up the slack there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Dude, and you said earlier that God brings people in your life. That is the epitome of that.
Speaker 2:Totally. And I remember when we met it was like 10 years ago and he was this kid from Oregon going to UCLA. I was living in California at the time and you you know he had this long hair and he's just kind of like shaggy, kind of hippie Oregon kid. I remember meeting him just kind of being like who is this goofball? And fast forward 10 years and he's our business partner, the CEO of our brand and and one of my best friends and it's just like man God is.
Speaker 2:who would have thought that that funny kid with the long hair that I met ten years ago would be our business partner, building this brand together?
Speaker 1:So that's so great. It's pretty cool. That is cool. And do you so? Do you get shit from the surfing community or your buddies there about? Because those two worlds are maybe in my opinion usually, I don't know, it seems different Totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you know what's kind of crazy is like people are relatively stoked. I mean, here's the thing like the surfing community is naturally in the wellness space in the healthy space.
Speaker 1:That's very true.
Speaker 2:A lot of my friends are. They're about eating healthy, they're about an active lifestyle, and a lot of them are using products like this to remain as healthy as they can and ditch the toxins, and so when we started this, it was kind of just like a natural flow. They're like oh heck, yeah, of course, it's obvious. You and Stacey would start a brand like that. Obvious, you and Stacy would start a brand like that.
Speaker 2:We they've been following you on Instagram for years and see all the non-toxic stuff we're doing and the way we're living, and so it just was all just like a natural flow. That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Do you think that surfing how do you think those things relate, like surfing and then being able to branch out into the business? Do you believe that? I don't know just the life lessons with surfing give you the confidence to go after and start a business Just on the cuff?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's a couple different things. Surfing, for sure, there's a lot of discipline involved with surfing so much. There's also a lot of, I would say, patience. I played golf for the first time this year with my brother-in-law in Canada and I had a blast, but it requires a lot of patience. And surfing, you're sitting on the lineup, you're waiting for sets.
Speaker 2:It requires a lot of patience and I think understanding that has helped a lot with business, because it is a patient game. I mean, there's a lot of um, a lot of a lot of that involved, um, especially when you want stuff now. It's like we want to have our bottles here, we need to get our towel. It's like there's so much involved with it. But having patience has been super key and I think surfing has helped teach me that, because there's definitely days where I just don't have fun because I'm sitting there waiting for waves all day and they may not come, and so I think that's been a big thing.
Speaker 2:But also being a pro, a retired pro athlete competing on the standard paddle racing world tour, that also brought in like the competitive aspect too. So, um, understanding competition and understand what you need to do to win a lot of those things were really important as a pro athlete in that career. So all those experiences kind of have led to this point and it's kind of weird to be like, yeah, I'm racing in the middle of nicaragua at the world championships and, you know, eight or nine years later, um, you know, applying those competitive skills to taking on the skincare industry yes it's like what the heck?
Speaker 2:like you know what I mean. It's such a weird kind of way things work out.
Speaker 1:But it's so good though it's all meant to be. Yes, yeah, everything has purpose everything is for a purpose. I actually did a company training today and I did. I call it the power principle and the w is stands for the will to win, and I look at for me being in my 40s.
Speaker 1:Bro, you'll understand when you get here okay, you're like this is sports to me now, like this is sports business. Is sports that's where I get my competitive drive, or that's why, where I get my feed, my competitive, you know, need I feel like totally it is, but you have to have this will to win and to do what it takes, because like you said there's so much that goes into it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just gonna start it, but you never know like if I truly would have known what it would, what it was gonna take, I wouldn't have done it, meaning it would have scared the shit out of me. I just wouldn't have done it. Yeah, I'm so glad that I did, but it's like you figure it out as you go. You know that's your will to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's just like there's so many lessons in life and if you, if you remember and like learn from those lessons, you, you always can come back to them and that's what's really cool. It's it's we'll be doing something with Momona in the business space and, um, you know, like we've been doing brand deals and influencer work for a long time. That was what transitioned into after the stand-up, paddle racing and surfing stuff and, um, you know, understanding contracts and understanding how digital marketing works, like all of that led me into.
Speaker 2:Now I'm on the owner's side of the business, hiring brand ambassadors, influencers um affiliates and and kind of understanding it from the other side of the curtain which is really unique, that is unique, but it's been really cool to see it from both sides and I learned a lot by seeing it from the influencer side, and so I try to strategize that way and take care of my people because I've been in that position, you know. And so, yeah, tons of lessons, man. Like. If you learn from your lessons, like, life is generally really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you don't learn from your lessons, life can be tough.
Speaker 1:For sure what is up y'all Listen. If this podcast has brought joy or value at some point as you're listening to it, we would love it if you would be so kind as to leave us a review down below. That is how we keep this thing moving and finding individuals just like you to pour value into. Now let's get back to the show. I just believe that everything is especially things that don't go great. It's essentially trauma and it stays as trauma until you learn the lesson. You just reframe and find the lesson that you're supposed to learn from it. Then it turns into progression. Do?
Speaker 1:you have a system, though, for how you document the lessons or how you document those experiences to learn from them? Do you have a system, though, for how you document the lessons or how you document those experiences to learn from them Like? Do you have a system for that at all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's. I would say it's really communication with my wife, if that sounds kind of interesting. So Stacy's a very um, she studied psychology in college and she's like she can just pick you apart, man, man she can just understand exactly what's going on in your head and why it's going on.
Speaker 2:She's incredibly intelligent and emotionally intelligent too, which is, I think, is one of the most important forms of intelligence, and, um, I, I ricochet a lot off of her and she's kind of that absorbing um person, for which is super important. But, yeah, when, when we're going through a hard lesson or or a learning experience or a hard time, like having a rock like that to communicate with, a lot of people do in different ways. People will journal, write their things down, people will meditate. There's a lot of different ways to do it, but just being honest with you, man, I, I chat with my wife, we have deep conversations and and she gives me a lot of different ways to do it. But, um, just being honest with you, man, I, I, I chat with my wife, we have deep conversations and um, and she gives me a lot of clarity and she also has a really good memory.
Speaker 2:And so you know, six months a year, two years later she'll be like hey, do you remember that conversation we had? You're falling back into that little bit. Let's bring that back, um, and so that's like people turning their page back to their journal, like my wife is my journal and so I'd kind of be lost without her man bro, that's so powerful you're.
Speaker 1:I have a relationship like that, and so I can speak from where you're so blessed. We're so blessed totally. As you were saying that in my mind I was thinking like I'm so grateful for Britt's memory because she has an amazing memory and she's also willing to call me out when I need to be called out, which is so rare, man. That's love, though. That's true love, in my opinion, totally.
Speaker 2:You gotta be held accountable, have to. And if you're, if your partner is letting you just kind of rip around and kind of uncontrolled like, you really have to have the accountability both ways. Um, and I'm sure she'd have a whole nother story in here about, about my side of it, which is which would be amazing to hear. But yeah, it's man, it is so important to have that person you know, and it doesn't have to be a wife or a husband.
Speaker 2:That person can be different for everyone. That can be a teacher, a business partner, a brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, whatever it is. It's some form of that accountability and someone to communicate with, because because that's the biggest thing If you can't get your words out or be heard and then have advice given, you're really blocked off from a lot of great things.
Speaker 1:You are.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I do and this is recent for me, where this is a thing from Brit where I'll have a learning lesson, I might one of my superpowers is I compartmentalize, like it's like next, boom, next, but then that means I just kind of forget and then so I've I've repeated some of the same mistake, mistakes again.
Speaker 1:It's a superpower to compartmentalize, but you don't obviously want to repeat the same mistakes. So brit will be like okay, once you have an experience before you come home, I don't care. Once you have an experience before you come home, I don't care if you're late, but before you come home, just type it out. And so I'll type it out or a voice note it out. And then what I've started to do the more that I started to learn about AI, the more I realized like it's actually hard to for me in my mind like to prompt AI. But I've started to use AI as like hey, how would like, let me run this by how would Steve jobs handle this situation? Or hey, this is the and I'm just having a conversation to get experience from but I give like a specific person, like somebody that I look up to.
Speaker 1:You know, how would Slater trout handle this trial? How would Slater try to handle this chat, whatever it is, and then having that conversation there and it sounds new age and kind of crazy, but it's actually been super powerful, wow but it's actually been super powerful.
Speaker 2:Wow, what do you use? What?
Speaker 1:do you use for AI chat? You beat probably the most. Yeah, I've been using Gemini a little bit more as well. Yeah, you know that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah but man it's.
Speaker 1:Isn't that a crazy world now we're moving into it's great I mean we're we're on the verge of just a total game changer.
Speaker 2:I, my wife and I, have been using chat GPT a lot more the last few months and just for we're very curious about the world and everything and we want to know a little bit about everything. My wife specifically, she's like just a nerd for information, like she has to be understand at the highest level every subject, and so when chat GPT was introduced to her, it's like her best friend now because it's like what bug was this on this plant? Why was it that shade this time of year? And then she'll spend an hour diving into that and I'm like you're so interested in the craziest things, but to have that knowledge there, it's like so cool and I think I think it's changing the world, man, and I just pray that it's changing the world in a positive way. Yeah, I know you and I and and our friends and family can use it in really great ways, um, but yeah, we'll see where it goes, because there's also some scary sides to it too, when you start going down the rabbit hole of what it could be right.
Speaker 2:Yep, um, but for right now on the phone, ask them a couple. What does this word mean?
Speaker 1:I love it amazing. Yeah, you're bro, our wives get along. I'm just telling you because britney wants to know at the deepest level as well and be like, and I I don't. I'm very much like what's next? Yeah, okay, cool cool.
Speaker 2:Yes, totally, and she that's very cool. Yeah, they'll get them introduced because I'm sure they'd be friends.
Speaker 1:100 that's fun dude but, I so do. You know who peter diamandis is? No dude. I just listened to a presentation of his the other day. It literally was. So. It was crazy, like it was so informative and amazing, but it's also terrifying like it literally terrified me. I was like is it?
Speaker 2:is he an ai guy? Yes, oh wow. What was he saying?
Speaker 1:I don't even don't want to stone him and bring it up right now like literally.
Speaker 2:So much though that I can't even like fully digest it like it's crazy man crazy yeah, he believes that people will eventually and he's showing proof of how this is working.
Speaker 1:But people will eventually. He thinks people live forever because the quicker that you can take care of disease and so essentially, you stop aging. Right now they're like four years or five years or something behind, but he feels like very soon it'll catch up, which means you'll just be able to extend forever. That's his viewpoint and he gives all this data crazy data that like supports that, and me and Britt were watching this. We're like, oh, mind blown.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I want to live Me. Neither. I'm like man. I think the timeline is great. How God said it. That's what I'm saying yeah, pass it on to the next generation, man, let them, let them take over. I'm ready to go up to heaven, man. I heard it's awesome up there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow yeah, there's so much crazy stuff coming out with that man, that's wild. Okay, I got a couple questions for you, um, one of them is and I very rarely do this, I just want you to know like I don't, I just riff, I'm a special special guest you are, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, you are man, all right.
Speaker 1:I just respect what you do a ton and so I yeah, I put together a quote. I very rarely ever do this, but I want to know what sets you, what you believe sets you apart, because I believe that, dude, beautiful family, amazing, like just an amazing career, so much success. But it's easy for people to look at that and be like, oh, it's just been easy. There's been no setbacks, no challenges, and the podcast name is own the outcome, which means well. First off, I would ask you, what does that mean to you? But then, secondly, what do you believe has set you apart? And have you had challenges?
Speaker 2:Wow, those are good questions. Um, I gotta think about that. What was the first part of that question I want to answer in order Own the out, so own the outcome.
Speaker 1:Let's just start there. What is what do you when you hear own the outcome? What does that mean to you?
Speaker 2:Man, I think for me it would be probably owning the present, if that makes sense. I think I think my brain wants to jump to um from a business standpoint, five, seven years in the future. Hey, like, what does an exit look like? What does this look like? But and that would probably be the outcome of the, what the brand is, um, but I think I want to turn that into like owning the present, because that's something that I think is really important, and I don't think you can own the outcome without owning the present.
Speaker 2:So, I think for me it would be just about focusing on the day to day tasks because, like you and I said, like we can compartmentalize, but we can get way ahead of ourselves and look down the road too far and I think if you can crush the present, you're going to own the future, and then you own the outcome as well.
Speaker 1:That's so good and you dictate all that. So, yeah, I would say that would be my answer.
Speaker 2:Stick with the present.
Speaker 1:Yeah, great, and I agree with that. By the way, it's reframing whatever it is that's happening here. You're reframing it in a way that's dry. I love that. That's perfect. I love that answer. The other side, though, was have you had challenges and how have how have you owned the outcome?
Speaker 2:in your own life, when you've experienced those challenges or has everything just been perfect in your life? No, no, definitely not. Um, I've had tons of challenges in my life. I think for me, it's really about I kind of have this mindset of remain optimistic and you and you kind of will um, um, curate the outcome a little bit. Um my wife when I first met her, she was she was saying that no, I didn't, she's nuts my wife was uh, when we first met she would.
Speaker 2:We would get like an argument or have a have a some discord and um, and and. And she would say I never heard this before. She's like have a some discord and um, and. And she would say I never heard this before. She's like you can be toxically top, toxically positive, and I'm just like how is that possible? That's like a play on words. How can you be toxic and positive, um? And so I think for me, it's always about seeing the positive in things. I'm an optimist.
Speaker 2:um, you know, an issue will get presented and it's just like, hey, it's gonna be all good, here's how we're gonna do it, versus getting into a rut, and I think that that's a quality that I was just born with. Um, it runs in my family and it can be a detriment sometimes, for sure.
Speaker 2:It's not perfect, um, but I, I, I do try to be an optimist and I do try to kind of have that optimistic mindset and I find myself being able to dig myself out of things a lot quicker, having an optimistic outlook for sure, bro, I talk about the power principle that I just presented to the team today and the O.
Speaker 1:I told you the W is will to win. The O was optimistic maturity, because I believe it's one of my biggest superpowers too. I'm optimistic, it has like bit me in the ass sometimes.
Speaker 2:Totally, oh yeah, but that's why I say optimistic maturity?
Speaker 1:because you're optimistic about the outcome but you're not naive about the situation currently. So you have to protect yourself, but you can figure it out. You're optimistic. Just because you don't see a way doesn't mean God doesn't have a way.
Speaker 2:He does Totally, totally, yeah, and it's a great quality to have. I think it's one that comes with a lot of learning too, and you grow with it. I'm sure you and I have, like you said, it's bit us in the ass before being a little overly optimistic, and I think, as we mature and get older I'm entering my um it's understanding how to be, yeah, maturely optimistic, I think. I think, following, following the signs and just um, understanding what the outcome is going to be with that optimism versus just like jumping into it Like I used to.
Speaker 2:It's been super key, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what's there Cause. I asked you how you would approach fear and essentially your answer was you plan, you prepare. That is, you're optimistic that you can do it, but you're also not naive like you prepare totally it eliminates fear. You don't just run from it, you go right into it. What could happen? What's the worst? Okay, there's, here's the solution for that calculated risk.
Speaker 2:It's it's a word you don't hear often um, but it's super important. When I got into skydiving in 2015, I was always super scared of heights and people were like, oh, you're scared of heights, you don't know skydiving. And I'm like that's why I did it, because I wanted to overcome that fear at the highest extent. That's so good.
Speaker 2:You know, jumping off of a 20-foot cliff is nerve-wracking to a lot of people. It was to me back in the day. Then I was like, counter that, okay, I'm going to go jump out at 14,000 feet, you know, of an airplane and um. And so it's really just been um, about finding out what the fear is and then just doing the highest form of that fear to overcome it, which is probably a little bit of a um, kind of crazy way to look at things that I don't recommend it for everybody. But that always brings me back to calculated risk and going into these things's weeks of planning. It's understanding the safety, it's understanding the risk involved, and then I'll usually write out like pros and cons, and so I'll look at this list of like what are the pros to cons and um, and I'll always find a way for the pros to outweigh the cons if I really want to do something, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 2:But um, but yeah, I think going into dangerous situations the more calculated you are and the better team you have around you, like at the big wave situation. Man, that's not something you can do alone.
Speaker 2:You don't do that, you have to have incredible watermen and rescue personnel around you that are experienced and take safety as a priority, especially when you're out at Jaws. You see all these clips of these surfers riding these giant waves, going 50 miles an hour and doing crazy things, but what you don't see is the jet ski following the wave behind the two jet skis on standby for the fall, the guy on the cliff with the radio, the guy on the boat with the radio and the entire team working together for that one individual safety.
Speaker 2:That's incredible, and the entire team working together for that one individual safety, that's incredible. And so that's the kind of epitome of calculated risk is having that whole team come together and make it happen on the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's sick dude. I didn't realize all. I knew that there was the jet skis, but I didn't realize all those moving pieces. That's awesome, yeah.
Speaker 2:And not everyone takes those measures at each their own. That's awesome, yeah, and not everyone takes those measures, um, at each their own. But I know I want to surround myself with people that have the same values of safety. And now, having a son, it's like it's heightened. I mean, I used to be a lot crazier and now it's like everything I do is even more crazy. My planning is way more intense, you know, just because I want to come home. You know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, your planning is more intense, but do you believe like your execution has diminished?
Speaker 2:No for sure, my execution for sure has gotten better because the plan has gotten better.
Speaker 2:It kind of goes hand in hand to me, um, when the, when the planning is so intense, the execution kind of mimics that Um, and when the planning is a little bit lackluster, you feel it like there's there's times where, um, when I was skydiving, uh, the night before I get a call and there's this jump happening and I get like the super kind of like lukewarm details of it and I'm kind of piecing it together, I'm kind of writing out the plan, I'm going over my equipment, studying the land landing zone, I'm kind of trying to picture what it's going to look like.
Speaker 2:But that's like a really fast turnaround because I'm up at three in the morning getting on that balloon, you know, and it's happening. So I think and and there's been some scary situations where I've had situations where I'm like the planning for this was lackluster, hence why the jump was a little sketchy, or the big wave riding was a little sketchy. And then you have you you know events or jumps or big waves, where you have a week, two weeks notice and you spend that time preparing and you get there and you just crush and it's like you can kind of it's really cool to be like, okay, put the work into, plan this and be calculated and safe, and then you have the times where you didn't and it shows for sure, yeah, your confidence is higher, a hundred percent. It's a lot about confidence.
Speaker 1:That's a great word it's. If you don't have the confidence, it's probably because you're not prepared. That's so good. I believe my execution like I believe it's it's is is higher because my kids are watching everything that I do. It's like if I'm telling you to push yourself but I'm not pushing myself, that doesn't correlate. Like we do wins and learns every day at dinner and the win is like the best part of the day. The learn is something that didn't go the way you wanted to, usually a fail. What did you learn from it? How would you do better? I want my kids to know like I'm pushing myself every single day to do things that I'm scared to scare me, you know like, but I love it and I'm grateful for it something every day that scares you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's super important. Oh, I have a. Um, I had a. I did a balloon jump years ago and I just I remember standing on the edge of the basket and I just looked at the camera and I was like do one thing every day that scares you.
Speaker 2:I was like this scares me, and then I just fell backwards and I was like yeah, that that quote just lives with me and um, and it can be something as simple as trying a new food, um, whatever it is. Waking up a little bit earlier in the day, that's scary for a lot of people. Like you don't want to lose that extra hour of sleep, so it doesn't have to be something crazy, and that's what I want, like the audience to know. It's like it can be little things and then that leads into big things.
Speaker 1:Well, your language, that's it's. It's why I love interviewing people like you. You because interviewing people like you, you, because it's your narrative in the moment. What I just pulled from that do one thing every day that scares you. But what I, what I pulled from that was in that moment.
Speaker 1:Your internal narrative was like Hmm do one thing every day that scares me, this scares me and that lights you up. And then you go. It's like your internal narrative. You're talking to yourself to get you in the mental state to do right, you're not trying to talk yourself out of it.
Speaker 2:totally yeah, yeah, and it doesn't like even something that scares. You can be something that is is a little just hard. Yeah, you know, doing something that's hard, right, it can be scary to do hard things, um what scares you now?
Speaker 1:what's something that scares dude slater trout today?
Speaker 2:I think, missing out on really important family moments.
Speaker 2:I think I don't want my son, his life to fly by. I don't want it to be fast. I can get caught up in work and in things I need to do, and that kind of scares me, because I don't want it to be like that. I want to be there for him. I want to watch. I don't want to miss be like that. I want to be there for him, I want to watch. I don't want to miss his first words and his first steps and everything like that. I just want to be really present in his life and I think it's really easy in today's world not to be. And then, all of a sudden, my son's 18 and he's graduating high school. Where'd time go?
Speaker 2:One piece of advice that every single parent this is across the board moms, dads, grandparents, different parts of the world. I like to ask people for advice on things, especially with parenting, and from my parents to a lot of other parents. The one thing that they've said is it goes by so fast, it's the blink of an eye. The days are long, the years are short, and that couldn't be truer. We've had hard days and there's sleepless nights, um, and we couldn't do without the moms out there. Moms are the true heroes of the situation, so yeah to all the moms and especially postpartum moms.
Speaker 2:Man, that first year is is incredible to see their bodies change and, yeah, all the power to them, um, but the time time goes fast, and I think that's what scares me. I feel like there's just not enough time to do everything that we want to do and watch our families grow the way we want to, and so maximizing that is is number one.
Speaker 1:Um, that's a great answer yeah, that tells me so much about you, brother. Such a great answer. I I will also say that. So when we moved here I moved here in 2019 and the whole point of moving here was to spend unobstructed time with kids. We're just going to live here for a year at first, like that was the thing Unobstructed time with kids before they got into school and their schedule take off, and so they're just formative years and, bro, just amazing experiences moving out here. And then we lived here for like a month. We're like we're never leaving Totally, you know, like those that time so powerful, and it is what scares, because I love the work, I love the grind, I love producing, I love like growing, I love doing those things.
Speaker 1:And I am my own worst enemy sometimes. Where I'll look back at pictures now is what I love, like the memories that pop up. I'll look back at pictures and see my kids and and remembering, thinking that they were big then and now I'm now just looking to be like they were so little, which brings in the perspective of like, okay, they're still so little and soon I'm gonna think that they seem so big, but they're still so little, you know, and I just ah yeah, it's my wife and I always say this.
Speaker 2:You know, when you look at photos when you were a kid and you know you're born in the 80s, yeah, yeah so it's nostalgic.
Speaker 2:You look at the clothes. You were a kid and you know you're born in the eighties, yeah, yeah, so it's nostalgic. You look at the clothes you were wearing, the cars in the background, the furniture in the house, whatever it was, and your parents were young at that time and that was the present time for them. We're right now. I was a nineties baby, like my wife, like we're living in the nineties of my son, like we're we're living in the 90s of my son, like we're living in that era.
Speaker 2:We're gonna look back and these clothes are gonna be out of style, these cars are gonna be out of style, this house is gonna be out of style. This entry is everything's gonna be out of style. It's gonna be something new, but this, these are.
Speaker 2:We're living in his past images right now that he's gonna look at someday put that, and so it's like man that blows my mind, like to think about it in that sense, like he's gonna look, your kids are gonna look these photos of you like you look at photos of yourself in the 80s yeah, someday and um and like, and and and like. What an era to be alive. Yeah, you know, with the smartphones and with the camera rolls and memories and stuff and, um, it really is crazy when you put it into that perspective.
Speaker 1:I've never thought of it like that, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're living in your eighties right now, totally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love the perspective. It is crazy, man, it is crazy, yeah, and it brings it. Well, you know, it makes you only outcome now, right, totally Like the present, totally You're saying earlier those are little ways to live in the present.
Speaker 2:Having thoughts like that instantly put you here right now. So I think, the more you can think about while time is flying, while we're living in our version of the eighties or nineties, um, I think that puts you right into the chair you're sitting in and that's the best place to be.
Speaker 1:So good, so good, bro. Those answers are are so good. Um, um. What's your wealth mastery strategy, like when you look at wealth as a whole and you look at building wealth. What's your strategy? Or do you have a strategy, and if so, what is that strategy?
Speaker 2:spend as much time with my family as possible. The number one for sure, um, the life that, that that I want to live and provide for my family is really just show the world to my kids. That's what my parents provided for me. We lived a great life. We never really struggled. It was. We had a really great upbringing. My parents always worked really hard. My dad and mom are super smart. They got into the storage business very early on and did really well. Um, dad came from nothing, so to watch him build his little empire was incredible. Uh, learned so much from him. Um, but for me, man, like I don't really I don't care about being a billionaire, I don't care about flying private, I don't care about a lot of things like that. I care about if there's a swell in the maldives do I have enough?
Speaker 2:money in the bank. Yeah, to take my family and go for a week and have those experiences. Um, can we can? Can my son and I go ride motorcycles through africa? Yeah can we have enough money to suffice that lifestyle, and I think that's what's important to me, and anything after that is just the cherry on top, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, dude, I also love that answer because wealth I love that answer. I think it's going to be so powerful for, like, I'm just picturing right now, I know who my listeners are and I'm just listen. They're success driven, they're money motivated, but they're primarily family motivated, and I think that a lot of people hear that wealth and they think it's some level of financial achievement only. And it's not, dude. There's people that are billionaires that are miserable. There's people that are billionaires who are literally a slave in whatever organization that they're in. That's not wealth. Wealth is freedom, like you just said.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm sure you've seen interviews with billionaires and millionaires and people who have done extremely well financially. One thing that they all have in common and these are later in their life interviews these are guys in their 70s and 80s. If you listen to podcasts or something with these people who have made billions of dollars, one thing across the board is they all wish they could take time back and have it with their family. They spent so many years building this empire and it's an incredible empire and respect to them for that, um, but it's also it's kind of sad. You see a lot of sadness in their eyes and hear in their voice that they're at this age now.
Speaker 2:They're not going to get those years back, um, and they have grown kids and they missed out on a lot and, and so I think for me is understanding that balance that's another thing that scares me is is balance. Is is how do I work hard enough and commit myself to the business enough to get to a lifestyle that provides what I just mentioned? But also, how do I not miss out on those super formative years and those important years? And I would rather be dirt poor but have the most incredible upbringing with my family and be best friends with my kids than I would be being a billionaire and not know my children. I just that scares me.
Speaker 1:So terrifies such a great answer. And you know, you know how you do it, bro. You continue to make it a focus and you schedule those activities You're. You put family and friends or sorry, family and and just the personal stuff first, and then you honor them.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 1:Cause my family will be the easiest ones to be like oh, you didn't make that, we can't make that, it's okay, we can't have that Like cause, I'll take advantage of it. Yup, so like Brit knows like like cause, I'll take advantage of it. So, like Brit knows like, okay, this, and this is like more recent too, within like the past four years of like cause I missed an anniversary, cause I was grinding, grinding. Yeah, and she was so supportive. But then I realized, like actually it hurt, you know totally, and so family is.
Speaker 2:It sounds weird, but it's the easiest one to push aside. It is family events Taking your kids on a walk, going to the beach, going to surf, whatever it is those ones are so easy to push aside. It's harder to put business aside, and so you need to look at that, I think, and say let me focus a little more on pushing some of the business stuff to the side, because you can always get back to that there's always another deal.
Speaker 2:There's always more money to be made, but you don't get family time back, man, you don't you?
Speaker 1:don't. It's a good thing, man. It's a good thing, just a good reminder.
Speaker 2:It's a good reminder for me right now, all the time I have one last question, yeah, one on your time.
Speaker 1:One last question, which is what do you want to be when you grow up? Like, when you look at like the future version, like what's next for launched mimona and I just see this brand, I just see this brand blowing up. I didn't, I knew a little bit about it, but I'm serious, like I'm so damn impressed with, first off, the passion. The passion tells me a lot, but it just feels like literally, dude, my I'm not just saying this like my skin feels good, even my hands, with putting up, they feel good, awesome, it's gonna blow up. What's, what's is that? What's next for you, is it? What do you? First and foremost?
Speaker 2:be a good husband and a good father. If I can do those things, then growing a great business would be. Third, I think, watching Momona blossom into what we want it to be, I think for us, we're really passionate about living a clean life and we want to show that lifestyle to people. Right now, like I mentioned earlier, the skincare industry, big pharma is just killing people. It's so crazy that you can go into a place and pick up a moisturizer that says clean on the board and you look at it and the first thing is a preservative. And so we want to take on that industry and say, hey, we have the solution to this toxic lifestyle. Um, and you can put one ingredient on your face and change your world, yeah, um. And so I think, from a business standpoint, to have mimona on the shelves next to some of these big competitors one ingredient versus 60, um I think that would fill my cup for sure, and and I know we're going to get there it's just a matter of keeping the grind and turning the wheels.
Speaker 1:I love it. Hey and listen.
Speaker 2:We always say Momona to the moon, Momona to the moon.
Speaker 1:That's great, man. Momona to the moon, Go pick some of this stuff up, Like literally. I'm so glad you brought some with you, bro.
Speaker 2:Put it on your kids, man, bro, like, put it on your kids, man. Give it to your wife. Oh yeah, I'm keeping this. I don't know. No, no, no, no, that's for you. We'll send you a couple too. We'll get your address after this and stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm so impressed, bro, yeah thank you for taking the time. Thanks, tyler, it was your great conversation. I learned so much from you. And there's people that are motivational, there's people that are and that's great right. There's also people that are inspirational, but there's also people are aspirational, and aspirational are the people you want to be like, and you might be younger than me, but I want to be like you. You think in a beautiful way, man, your natural knee-jerk reactions are awesome. I respect it to death.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, yeah.
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