Own the Outcome with Tyler Deveraux

How My 10-Year-Old Learned to Conquer Fear—and What It Taught Me

Tyler Deveraux

In this heartwarming and deeply insightful special episode of Own the Outcome, Tyler Deveraux sits down with his 10-year-old son, Paxton Deveraux, to talk courage, confidence, and chasing your dreams—even when fear shows up. Paxton opens up about overcoming stage fright, learning from failure, building confidence through preparation, and what it really means to "own the outcome."

From baseball and public speaking to deep conversations on bravery, faith, and self-talk, Paxton shares powerful lessons that are just as relevant for adults as they are for kids. You’ll walk away inspired to take action, speak kindly to yourself, and lean into discomfort with boldness.

Whether you're a parent, entrepreneur, coach, or someone seeking personal growth, this episode is packed with gold—and a few laughs too.

Topics Include:

  • How to talk back to fear and self-doubt
  • Why being brave beats being smart
  • How small choices lead to big changes
  • Using the triad (physiology, focus, language) to boost performance
  • The power of preparation and persistence

Don’t miss one of the most unique and meaningful conversations on Own the Outcome to date.

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Speaker 1:

All right, aloha and welcome to Own the Outcome podcast. My name is Tyler Devereaux and today I have, well, probably my favorite guest that I've ever had on the podcast. I got my son, the one and only Paxton Larry Devereaux Welcome.

Speaker 3:

Guess who's back Back again.

Speaker 1:

Paxton's back.

Speaker 3:

Tell a friend.

Speaker 1:

How are you Good, Good man Doing good Thanks for taking the time to be on the pod. Mm-hmm. You know, pax, you came to Peak Partnership and you crushed it at Peak Partnership. We're going to talk about some of that. So I heard, but you interviewed me on stage, and so now I'm excited to be able to interview you on the podcast and ask you some questions that I wanted to grill you with you. Okay, yeah, you ready for it?

Speaker 3:

I better be.

Speaker 1:

Good, okay, my first question, man, is we're, you know well, into 2025. What is a goal that you have accomplished in 2025 that you are super proud of?

Speaker 3:

You know summer well, almost just ended. My All-Star season just ended and I was. One of my biggest goals is definitely to get on the All-Star team and I am glad I accomplished that. I had an amazing time doing that Nice?

Speaker 1:

What do you think it took for you to be able to accomplish that goal? Is there anything that you sacrificed, anything extra you had to do? What do you think contributed to you making the All-Star team?

Speaker 3:

So you and Mom and Marley had an alaskan cruise that was like right in the middle of the all-star season and if I went that then I would have to miss the rest and yeah, that just wouldn't be. Yeah, no and um. But I made a commitment to keep doing the All-Star season and to stick with it and I chose to stay and I had a great time. We got second place out of Kihei. We lost to Central by one, but we still made it far.

Speaker 1:

We broke Kihei's record. Hey, there we go.

Speaker 3:

You guys had a great game, not just second place in kihei, second place in all of maui, right no, so, um, you know how central won, so they would go to oahu, they would play some other teams from molokai, um big, big island yeah, that's what I mean, though, second place out of all of maui oh, oh, yes, yes, yes, so you guys crushed.

Speaker 1:

All right, Okay, I've got a couple other questions for you, ma'am, Because I just feel like you are somebody that has lots of wisdom in the head of yours and you think you're a pretty deep thinker. That's kind of what was pretty evident at Peak Partnership because, you know, I asked you a question of how do you overcome self-doubt and I loved your answer. Lots of people loved your answer. It got lots of traction. So another question. I have a couple more questions along those same lines, and one of them is when somebody feels like they're not good enough, what's the first thing that you think that they should do?

Speaker 3:

First thing that I think they should do is they want to. Usually, when I think that I'm not good enough, right? I mean, usually you have it in your mind, everybody's saying, oh, come on, you're good enough, you're good enough, right. But sometimes you just don't want to believe them. So what I do is that, like I think what I would be with, like what I would be with, I say I'm not good enough, right? Well, I usually am. I'm like frustrated, right. It's like homework is not fun. Sometimes I say that about myself, um, but really it's just I like to think that, like you know, god um only gives us things that are we can do, right, not just things that, like are impossible, that we can't do. It's like he only gives us the challenges in life that we can do.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So that's what you would let your friend, or whoever that is know, huh.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So how do you I love that how do you include God in your life, by the way?

Speaker 3:

I include God in my life by praying and reading the scriptures right and getting baptized and all that holy stuff.

Speaker 1:

All that holy stuff, how's that helped you? Let's talk about, like how that, how that's helped you, because you know I asked you a question. It's pretty crazy to me. You went from. I remember when you gave a talk at church, you know, a couple years ago, yeah, and how scared were you for that talk oh, very scared.

Speaker 3:

Everybody was like oh, come on, you got this. Like I even said I'm not good enough, um, but yeah, I was terrified to um speak in front of 10 people, yeah, and then when you go to peak, you know groups of 10 millions of tens and it's just jeez. It's like I did not expect that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and and so I asked you how did you go from being so scared at giving a small talk at church to a couple buddies to being in front of over 1,000 people at Peak Partnership and then just recently, you just gave a talk in front of the whole church and killed it? How did you do that?

Speaker 3:

the whole church and killed it. How did you do that? I mean, I thought of what my future if I did do this right and if I did do it like after, when I was too scared and I chickened out to do the church talk, I just thought of it. It's like now, it just like it makes me regret that right then you think of yourself in the future, what you'd be like when you do this right. And if you do something terrifying then, but you like accomplish it with um braveness, then people gain lots more respect for you and how does it make you feel?

Speaker 3:

makes me feel I'm glad I did it so when you're I love that answer, man.

Speaker 1:

So you picture yourself in the future and if I do this, how you're going to feel, versus if I don't do this I'm going to feel yes I love that very much what you said you. How am I going to feel if I be brave? What do you think is most important, being brave or being smart?

Speaker 3:

Being brave because being smart you know, albert Einstein probably chose the smart way, but I feel like being brave would be more, because if you're smart, but I feel like being brave would be more, because if you're smart, then also being brave is being smart. So, like one of, I think, your and mom's mottos, right is like hesitate, you die, right, and then, but you just think about that being brave, you're not hesitating, you're not dying, you're being alive and you're, um, enjoying life. Yeah, but being smart, I mean sometimes being smart could be choosing to be brave, but I feel like being brave would be better, like what I just said, but by being smart, you just I mean you can make, you can definitely change lives, right, but you'd probably like be a scientist and you know or something, a job that you might not like. But if you try to be smart, then I mean it changed for every person, but I feel like being brave would be better for you to enjoy life, but being smarter would be better for your education. Yeah, that's what I think about.

Speaker 1:

I think about okay, if I was brave, I could become smart because, I'm I'm brave enough to try new things, yeah, but if I'm smart and I'm not brave, well that that genius will go to waste.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right, yeah, I like that answer.

Speaker 1:

I like your answer. You're the one who inspired my answer, bro.

Speaker 3:

No, duh bro, my answer's way better.

Speaker 1:

So good, okay, so I have a question for you too. We talk about the triad. You said me, and mom's motto is hesitate and die. Another thing that we talk about a lot is the triad.

Speaker 3:

So what is the triad and how do you use it?

Speaker 1:

The triad is going to teach me about the triad and what it is, and then how you use it. Give me an example. I would love to hear it Okay.

Speaker 3:

Well, teaching you the triad was kind of hard, cause you taught it to me and um, so you have three things that are in your triad because it's try on. You have your physiology, which is your body posture right, which is you could be shoulders up right or you could just be like this right, like a body posture really speaks. Feel like more than words, because, like, if you know like shoulders up, then you're just happy to be here, here. Here, you're just like is this over?

Speaker 1:

yet Okay.

Speaker 3:

So number one, physiology. Number two is your focus, where your attention will go um, where your attention leads something, something, uh, I forgot where attention goes, energy flows.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what it was Okay.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm, and I feel like that.

Speaker 1:

is so true, just like actually just repeat it and say, just say that if your attention, where your attention goes, your energy flows.

Speaker 3:

I feel like that's just so true because, um, wherever you put your attention right, then that's where you're focusing right. I'm focusing on this right, not focusing on chick-fil-a or taco bell right now, then my attention would be here getting mom to go in the car and get them, but, um, yeah, and then the number three one. The third one is your um language. So if you have good language right, which I heard that you don't have- hey, I'm working on it. Okay, good, good For the first time in forever.

Speaker 1:

These kids help me keep in a swear jar. They're going to fund their college through the swear jar, probably. Yeah, okay, so you have your physiology.

Speaker 3:

You have your focus and you have your physiology. You have your focus and you have your language okay, now how do you?

Speaker 1:

and help me understand, like what, what's the time where you would check your triad or use your?

Speaker 3:

you know, use that I check my triad when I feel like actually, really just going into this, it's like okay, don't want to be like this, don't want to be like um and you don't want to um, be cussing like you well, okay, let's go to peak partnership.

Speaker 1:

Do you remember backstage at peak partnership?

Speaker 3:

backstage was a whole new world.

Speaker 1:

Whole new world and you remember when I, before you were going to go welcome me out on stage, I said are you ready? And you said yes.

Speaker 3:

Well, I know I said no, but after um, you did something. You called me and I'm like I'm not ready, right. I'm like I've never been first up like first speaker, basically um. So I just like was not ready. So you took me um to like this section of the backstage right and you prayed with me and that felt me, that made me feel way more confident yeah, I love it, buddy.

Speaker 1:

And then so think about what you did there, like what did we do? What did we do with physiology to help with before we went on stage? What? What did we do to help with physiology?

Speaker 3:

um, you made me memorize all like the physiology stuff and brought piece of paper and a pen and you made me write down language, physiology and focus like about 20 times, maybe no you're lying, no, I mean, I mean like a little fibber over here.

Speaker 1:

No, when? So physiology is changing your physical state. What did we do to change our physiology, our physical state, backstage?

Speaker 3:

Um, I kept my shoulders up, right. I wasn't like do I have to do this? I mean, in fact, I definitely wanted to go first because I, like Molly went first the first time we were there and I went second. It's like I never want to be second again, I want to go first. And still, after the prayer, it made me way more confident in going to physiology. But after you said you want to do anything else, and I'm like, no, I think I'm ready because we need to go soon. And he's like you have some time, let's do some push-ups. And I'm like, um, okay, so we did push-ups and that pushed me to um the max and I was ready yeah, and then your language.

Speaker 1:

And think about your language. Now I'm when you first said, when I first asked you if you're ready and you said no, was your. Was that good language? Bad language? Bad language but then we did something, we changed our focus. So then think about a prayer when I'm saying a prayer, was I focused on? I was focused on the things we wanted, right? And so then we changed our focus, we changed our language, and then we changed our physiology. And then what happened? When you walked out on stage?

Speaker 3:

When I walked out on stage, I um no, I went through all my lines that I've been practicing right, I've did all my work right, and I, you know like talked about you and I told them to show the video, and then I introduced you onto stage and then, after I did such an amazing job, you're like okay, get off. It's connection now, kid.

Speaker 1:

It's like wow, were you scared when you were out on stage.

Speaker 3:

I was when I was like getting up on the stairs and I was very scared. But then when you go on stage then it just like all the fear just washes away. It either washes away or just picks up by a thousand, and usually it just washes away from me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's like jump. It's like so when you go on stage, it's like, okay, I need to get back off. You can't do like that. It's like, okay, I need to get back off. You can't do like that. It's like jumping off a cliff or our balcony. When you jump off, it's like when your feet leave the ground and you're just going down. It's like you can't go back now. You can't do cowboy and lasso it and then come back up. It's like two inches above the water. I mean, you're so close, just close. It's just like why not just go? That's why I feel like God made it gravity so that it's like you can't turn back when you do something that is making you scared.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I remember, when you jumped off our balcony for the very first time, how scared were you. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

I like not to talk about it, but I'd say pretty scared.

Speaker 1:

Well, it is a big jump, man. And you were, how old at that point?

Speaker 3:

Four, five, I think four or five. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you jumped. And how long did it take you to do that first jump 20 days. It took a while right. Yeah, it took a while. But then what did you do? Right after you jumped? You hid in the water. And then what did you do right after?

Speaker 3:

I swam right to the end, went right back up and jumped again. It was so fun. It's so fun and you know that's like probably the first big jump I've ever really done. And now you know I'm going to black rock, jumping off the highest edge and stuff and doing all that and, and it's just you, just it's part of you, yeah now it's the fear has been replaced with fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. Okay, what? Well, speaking of that, what is your biggest fear?

Speaker 3:

Biggest fear used to really be going on peak right. It used to be until I just really stepped on. But I would say my biggest fear is letting my team down. You know, in football or like baseball or, yeah, like any team sport, you know it's like you're on a team right, and it's like if they lose because of you, then you just feel so bad and then it's like why? Just like, if only that could have been me, then did there, I would have done it right, yeah, and they just um, then it just like they kind of target you right. It's like I mean I didn't want to do that, right, but um, then when you let like your team down, I used to always just like be so mad at myself, right, it's like, why did I have to strike out or drop the football, right? And that's when I just feel like I wish you had a redo button and you could just whoop and this time hit a homie or catch the ball and make a touchdown.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay. So let's talk about that, let's say that you're out in the field Baseball or football. Let's do baseball. Okay, you're out in the baseball field and pitcher's about to pitch and you're like, oh man, oh man, I hope they don't hit it to me, because I'm going to what if I drop it and then I'll? Yeah, okay, how would you use the triad to help you in that situation?

Speaker 3:

I would look at my language, like what am I saying, right? Like if it hits to me, I'm going to make an amazing play and that's going to be one, two or three outs and we're going to go in and we're going to hit some bombs.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I love it. That's so good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So when fear talks to you, what do you do?

Speaker 3:

When fear talks to me, I talk back. You know I call it the bully in your head, right? It's like when it's talking to you like you can't do that, you're not good enough, right, I talk back like not shouting out like oh yeah, right in front of everybody. It's like that kid's a psycho. I talk in my head like I can do this. I've been training for this. This is why I got here.

Speaker 1:

So good, dude. And when you do that, how does that make you feel?

Speaker 3:

so good, dude, and how, when you do that, how does that make you feel?

Speaker 1:

um, when I do that, it makes me feel like when I get that out or when I'm talking back, just even when you're just talking back before you, even before anything else happens, you just start talking back. Does that make you feel oh?

Speaker 3:

that makes me feel way more confident. It's like, yeah, it's like when your head it's like you think you're the boss of everyone, right? It's like you're the ace, right, you trump everything. And then, when your head's talking bad to you, it's like, no matter what anyone says, it's like bad, bad, bad. But when you talk good to yourself, no, whatever, whatever bad things people are talking about to you, it's good, good things, people are talking about.

Speaker 1:

To you it's good, good, good, yeah, I love it. You're in control of that, all right. What is something that somebody told you that you can't do, but you did anyway?

Speaker 3:

someone, like even at peak, right. So, um, when we were, I was going to interview you, right, when we were going to interview you, I'm like I was really excited, right. I'm like, yeah, I really want to do this. I've been playing since the first day. But then I'm like, okay, dad, when can I interview? And it's like, oh wow, first day, it's packed. Second day, um, we had the first, we had actually the first half open and it's like okay, but the second pack is like okay, it's like okay, let's fit in the first pack. Then, um, first day, you know, went on stage still packed, I still, even though I asked we couldn't do it right.

Speaker 3:

Second day, um, I went maui time mode and I slept all the way in to 11 or 12 and that was lunchtime and that's the end of the first half. So I missed my opportunity and I felt disappointed, right. So I went back right and I'm like, yeah, it's 12. Everybody's gone for lunch. So on the second day, I'm like, dad, can we do it? Dad, can we do it? It's like no, like no, no, no. But I kept asking so much, like I'm not saying that, I ask so much, till they're overwhelmed and just say no and kick you out. But, um, like, I just kept asking right until it's like so much that you started hearing it in your head dad, dad, dad, can I do this, can I do this? Right, right. And then you put in your plans, right. Then you, I think you made way like you made some room in your talk, right, so that I could interview you, and it was a shorter interview, but still I think it was a great interview.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 3:

And if that didn't happen then I couldn't do the self-doubt one. And I heard I'm pretty famous for that.

Speaker 1:

That one, that one went viral. Your self-doubt talk went viral, bro. You know what's cool about that? That you probably the one thing that I want to recognize that you did is it's not just that you kept asking me you, you went and what did you prepare?

Speaker 3:

I prepared a whole list of questions.

Speaker 1:

You took the action. You took the action and listed out all these questions and I hadn't seen the questions, but you showed them to mom and then you used mom as an advocate and mom was like Brittany was like hey, man, these questions are amazing. He's prepared a whole bunch of questions that are great. And so you didn't just hope that, oh man, if they give me the opportunity of questions that are great. And so you, you didn't just hope that, oh man, if they give you the opportunity, then I'll prepare the questions. You prepared the questions so that you were ready for the opportunity. Yeah, it's pretty cool, I love it. Yeah, cause I will be honest with you, I did not plan on that happening at all, but you were persistent, man, I loved it, and now I did so good that I'm probably going to interview everyone at peak that you interview.

Speaker 1:

You're the new interviewer.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm the new interviewer.

Speaker 1:

Okay, if a friend told you hey man, I don't think I'm good at anything, what would you say to them?

Speaker 3:

I'd say with that attitude, of course you're not. I'd probably say like, hmm, depends what it's on. I mean, if now, if it's like soccer and or if it's golf and they're a baseball player, then I'd probably say, yeah, that's probably true. But um, if it's like baseball and they're a baseball player, I'll say, I mean, sometimes, if they aren't better than me, or if they are better than me, I'll definitely say, man, you're better than me. It's like you can't really be talking because so many people are worse than you. It's like you're just so good at this sport. It's amazing just seeing you do it right.

Speaker 1:

So you build them up. Yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it. How do you help them see that they're good?

Speaker 3:

I'll talk about like what they. If, like, they hit a grand slam or something right, or a walk-off home run to win the game, then you know I'd probably talk about that, and then that usually gets in people's mind it's like, oh yeah, I did do that. I'm pretty good. Okay, yeah, I'm back in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love it. So remind them of something from the past.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I like that a lot.

Speaker 3:

Or if in the future, like if you quit now, you're not not gonna make it to the MLB so yeah that's very true.

Speaker 1:

Okay, along those lines, what do you do when your brain tries to tell you that you're not good enough? Does that ever happen?

Speaker 3:

ask this question. Huh, didn't you already ask this question?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, did I?

Speaker 3:

yeah, when you said like um, what do you do when you say that you're not good enough? Remember. I don't remember you. You did ask this question.

Speaker 1:

You already answered it. Yes, well, dang, I need to get on top of my questions here.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, hey, ask Strat. Did he already ask that question?

Speaker 1:

Strat says yes. Oh, okay. Okay, so here's my other question then Do you think it's okay to fail? Why or why not?

Speaker 3:

Okay. So here's my other question then Do you think it's okay to fail? Why, or why not? It's amazing to fail?

Speaker 3:

I feel like that's actually a great goal to have to actually fail, because if you keep doing everything perfect, good for you, but also that sucks for you. Because if you keep doing everything perfect, then you are just like best of the best, right, but you also would be like you can't improve. If you're perfect right, then you can't improve. Um, and lots of people just love to improve. I mean, it's one of the best things, but if you're just perfect, then you can't improve. It's then it just play baseball home run, home run after home run. Sometimes they would just get boring, right. And then some people get so mad when they fell, right, but I feel like it's so good, then you just keep on learning.

Speaker 3:

You do like in chess, right, if you do a bad move, and then you lose the game because of it. Right, it's like okay, some people get very mad because of that. Sometimes I do too. But, um, when you felt just like, okay, so when the knight is right here, my king's right here, I should move my pawn in front of the king. So the knight kills that instead, and then my king can kill the knight so you just learn from okay, this was a failure, but I learned how to do it better the next time.

Speaker 1:

yeah, that's good, dude, that is good. I love that example too of chess, for sure. Okay, what actually? I like this one. Okay, when you're really upset, how do you calm yourself down?

Speaker 3:

Hmm, when I'm really upset, how do I calm myself down? That's a good question. No, I feel like I would. Usually you know, I know what my sister does she would grab a pillow, put it to her mouth and start screaming like crazy.

Speaker 3:

But what I would do was usually I just go to my room, I like walk away, right, and I think about what just happened, right, it's like is that really worth getting mad at and getting in my head about, or is that just like something that it's like, yeah, that's very hard to do. It's like only like probably one or two people has done that before, right? So I think about the circumstances and if it was something that's like very hard to do, right, then I can see how you got mad at yourself. But try to just think it's like it's all right, it's like you don't need to, you know, be a wuss about it, right and it. Or, yeah, you just calm yourself down by. Take like three breaths, like the box. Breath three seconds in three seconds, yeah, hold three seconds, three seconds out, and then hold three seconds of breathing, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's what I do, and it calms you down. Yeah, that's a great answer, dude. I love how you said you look at the circumstances and put things into perspective, and then you also use your breath to calm yourself down. Yeah, that's very good. I like that a lot. Okay, what's something that most people don't notice?

Speaker 3:

that's hard. Um, I don't notice, but that people don't notice, but I do. Okay. How life choices can, just well, how choices not even life choices, right. How, just like these simple small things, even just clipping a nail, could change like your whole entire life.

Speaker 3:

Right now there's this book I like it's about, on this um, starfish, right. So this kid, right, he's walking around on the beach and sees all these starfish on the beach, right, and it's like you know they're to die if they don't get back in the ocean. So he picks one up, throws it back in and even though the ocean, every time it walks away, more even come up, right, so he just keeps throwing them out into the ocean. Then this old man walks on by I'd say like, maybe in his millions he looks pretty old. He walks by and he's he's like kid, what are you doing? And he's like I'm helping these starfish, right, and he's like you're never gonna help them. There's millions, right, just how old I am. And, um, it's like you would never change, like you're not gonna change a single one of them, it's you're not gonna do anything to help. Then he picks up starfish, throws it into the ocean and, oh yeah, the old man said, um, like you're not going to change a single one of them, you're not going to do anything to help. Then he picks up a starfish, throws it into the ocean. Oh yeah, the old man said, like you're never going to make a difference, right? He picks up a starfish, throws it into the ocean and he's like I made a difference for that one. So then the old man starts helping out and it's just like, it's just so good.

Speaker 1:

I love it. And it's a chain effect of more people come and help yeah, I love it. And then soon all the starfish are saved. Small little things that lead to big results. I love that. You recognize that, buddy. Okay, what else do I got here? I think I have what is your dream job?

Speaker 3:

Dream job this one I told you to do last second, right. Yeah, my dream job is to play in the MLB. And then, like, even if I just play in the MLB, that's dream job, right, but if I do get on the Los Angeles Angels, then that's even bigger for me.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I love it. How come you like the Angels?

Speaker 3:

I mean I'm from Texas, right, I really like the Rangers. But I mean I've watched Angels in the outfield and I really like that movie and I just really love like the. You know, I like. You know I'm a big Los Angeles fan, right. I like the Lakers, I like Angels, right, but um, yeah, so I I just really like them a lot. But also, um, they have Mike Chow and Shohei well, it used to be Shohei and then Brandon Marsh too. Those three were some of my favorite players. And then some people say that you must hate the Dodgers and I'm like, well, I mean I hate the team, but I like all the players on the team. So it's kind of hard for me to choose. I mean I love Shohei, love Freddie, love Mookie Betts, you know, I love like lots of like. They have my favorite players on the team, right, yeah, but I mean I'm an Angels fan.

Speaker 1:

I like it Okay, two more questions you ready. Mm-hmm. One of those is what. Is so if you had any advice that you would give to it's a kid, your age right kid my age or anybody you know, what anybody? Yeah, advice to give to anybody who's nervous to try something new, who's feeling doubt or any of those kind of things I don't know self-doubt self-doubt.

Speaker 3:

They're just nervous to try something um, I would say, like think about the future thing, right. Like think about, okay, you don't want to try broccoli, I'm like kid, I felt you. But it's like think about your future self. When you have tried broccoli right, your friends will think you're weight, like you're not a wuss to try broccoli right. Or you are like you're brave enough to try new foods, or you're brave enough to defeat something that, like, everyone's scared of right. That's what I would say.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so change your focus right. Instead of focusing on what you're scared of, focus on how beautiful it's going to be and how great it's going to be. I like it okay. Last question what is a lesson that you've learned from your mom that you know will have an impact on your life forever?

Speaker 3:

lesson that I learned from my mom that I'll have an impact on my life forever Probably that whatever you do, make sure that you are confident about it and that you're not 50 50 on it, you're 100 percent. Whether it's a bad choice, then you'll learn from it, right? If it's a good choice, then definitely go 100 on it. Now, if you're drafting people in football, um, sometimes you can be a little shaky about that. So, whatever you're doing, give it your all.

Speaker 1:

Go 100 100 all the time. I like it, but you're doing, give it your all, go a hundred percent a hundred percent all the time. I like it, but you're a stud man. Thank you so much for sharing your, your knowledge, your wisdom. Do you know that I love you? What's the lesson you've learned from me?

Speaker 3:

Oh geez, this one will take me a while. Have you ever taught me?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

That's, I don't know, that's, I don't, I'm not sure. Um, maybe I feel like you kind of retaught me also like the going 100 thing also how to be better, be a better person.

Speaker 1:

Hey, all right, yeah did I teach you that by being a bad person? Very I love you, buddy. Thank you so much. All right, buddy, what does it mean? The title of the podcast right is Own the Outcome. So what does it mean to you when you hear that? What does it mean to you to own the outcome? What does that mean to you? It?

Speaker 3:

means to me to own the outcome. Really, you just think of the three words, two words most important Own and outcome. Right, you want to own something. You gotta like still go a hundred percent on it. Right, you, you're gonna take it. It's like, right, if you're buying something, right then you're. If you buy it, then you own it right.

Speaker 3:

But you can't just go like, hmm, pretty shaky about this, I'm gonna buy it and then, um, I'm gonna open it, I'm gonna play with it, I'm gonna do all this stuff with it, gonna drive around with it, but then I'm gonna give it back because I might not like it. It's like, well, I mean, yeah, there is re like, you can take it. I don't like this, put it back. But you can't like play around and damage it and stuff, right. But to own it and then to own the outcome, you gotta like so, yeah, go 100.

Speaker 3:

And to own the outcome, you want to own your future, right, you can't just be like should I, like lots of people say, it's like you know, angels outfield when the like. One of my favorite lines is like when the manager of the angels right, the kid that sees the angels, right, he says isn't this your team, right. And then he says, oh yeah, don't remind me. I really like that line. But it's like you want to own your like team, right. But it's like, oh, isn't this your team? They're like the all-stars. It's like, oh yeah, definitely remind me about that. It's like you want to own it 100%, no matter bad or good.

Speaker 1:

It's like you want to own it 100%, no matter bad or good. Yeah, because if you own it you can make it better, right, mm-hmm? I love it. Great answer, dude. Mm-hmm. Love you, stud, love you All right? Hey, hopefully y'all pulled some value from today's episode. Go show, pac some love in the comments and live always with aloha. Peace, peace, peace, peace.