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Who knew that a simple 'fridge tour' could become an unexpectedly intimate moment, sparking laughter and swoons alike? There's even a bit of swag talk for the die-hard Jabrone Gang, complete with a 'champagne throat goat' nod to bygone banter. And let's not forget the economic tremors shaking Bordeaux, where vintners toil under the weight of climbing costs—a plight that resonates with anyone feeling the pinch of pinched pennies.

Crack open a bottle of "Some Days Are Diamonds" Syrah and join us on a nostalgic trip down memory lane, where the echoes of John Denver harmonize with tales of my Welsh and Austrian lineage. The conversation takes a spirited turn as we muse over Ryan Reynolds diving into soccer club ownership, all while sipping the fruits of Two Vintners' labor. Then it's off to the pitch of yesteryear, where childhood soccer dreams dance beside the ongoing quest for a healthy, balanced life—an endeavor that never truly ends, even for us grown-ups.

We wrap our palates around the complexities of wine tasting, dissecting the dance of terracotta and herbal notes that elevate a vintage from good to great. Bre Davis drops by to share her expertise, and together, we marvel at the vast array of wineries—from sprawling Californian ranches to the cozy confines of Woodinville's finest. And as we ponder the burgeoning scene of non-alcoholic wines, we confront the sometimes-uncomfortable truths of age and relationships, always keeping it real for our Jabrone gang. So grab a glass and join us for a heartfelt episode brimming with character, conversation, and perhaps a new perspective on life's finer sips.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:09

to have and the somber that you wrote an A Dude.

Speaker 2 0:31

Doesn't a Zin affect your tasting buds?

Speaker 1 0:37

I don't have a flavor in mine, so no, they don't.

Speaker 2 0:42

So what does it taste like?

Speaker 1 0:43

I have been like paper literally just tastes like fucking paper. But Then why do you do it? Cause it's nicotine and I used to smoke cigarettes for 10 years, so this has helped me not smoke anymore, and but you, when you like, moved here, didn't smoke I was doing Zins.

Speaker 2 1:04

There was a time that you like quit for a while Zins.

Speaker 1 1:08

Yeah, yeah, there was, I didn't. Well, yeah, initially I didn't do Zins.

Speaker 2 1:14

But I would when you were trying to get a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 1:16

I would always crave a cigarette, though.

Speaker 2 1:19

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:20

I was doing Zins while I met my current girlfriend, so I don't know she was doing too.

Speaker 2 1:31

She's a badass Cause she is a badass.

Speaker 1 1:33

honestly, she's like I don't know.

Speaker 2 1:35

I can go on.

Speaker 1 1:36

I miss she up here, but yeah, she's a fucking badass and she's smart, fucking, smart as hell. I know she is Way smarter than I am.

Speaker 2 1:46

I know she is.

Speaker 1 1:47

I know I'm just dumbass, but hey, depends on the topic. It keeps me balanced, though you know it's good. Calls me out on my shit.

Speaker 2 1:56

She sure does. Yeah, that's one thing I love about her.

Speaker 1 2:01

She's amazing man. Yeah, she told me to ask you about your fridge tour, oh, my fridge tour, oh shit, yeah, oh, we'll say that's for after the pod.

Speaker 2 2:14

It's not.

Speaker 1 2:14

Patron worthy.

Speaker 2 2:16

I heard you got fridge toured.

Speaker 1 2:20

I did get fridge toured. She treated me like I was on an airplane and she was a airplane steward person. Flight attendant.

Speaker 2 2:29

That's the one. It's like some four play shit.

Speaker 1 2:32

I wish, I truly wish, I truly wish.

Speaker 2 2:39

All right, jabroni gang Jabroni gang.

Speaker 1 2:46

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Speaker 2 2:52

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Speaker 1 3:01

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Speaker 2 3:23

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Speaker 1 3:32

Oh, yeah, so okay.

Speaker 2 3:35

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Speaker 1 3:39

Jabroni gang Is Wine Wonder Boy and Jazzy aka Champagne throw code in the building. As long as I'm a goat who cares at this point.

Speaker 2 3:53

She is a goat.

Speaker 1 3:54

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Speaker 2 4:15

We got hoodies, handbags, we got stickers, we got beanies we're always coming up with more, Like olive, green tan, all that good stuff. We got beige ones.

Speaker 1 4:24

we got the black ones olive, green, maroon, burgundy, if you will, colors. So yeah, it's gonna be dope, we love it. And one thing I'm working on right now, too, is we're gonna have merch. We got merch coming out that says champagne, throat goat, based off of the Bubbles episode we did with Nicole.

Speaker 2 4:52

Yes, it was the Bubbles episode. And then Jasmine throwed a can of Bubbles on the pod, and then we also Well, I know I need to make a T-shirt that says that for my half marathon. Yes, champagne that if you didn't hear the previous one for the poor people.

Speaker 1 5:11

Yeah.

Speaker 2 5:12

I am going to make that shirt that I'm going to run in. We need to do that ASAP.

Speaker 1 5:17

Yep, Champagne throat goat. Jesus Christ, you want a?

Speaker 2 5:22

I just love saying it it's awesome, rolls off the tongue.

Speaker 1 5:27

If you were Lord help.

Speaker 2 5:29

Oh God, All right. So what are we talking about this episode?

Speaker 1 5:36

This episode we are. I mean we went on the original episode. We went over kind of some news of Bordeaux, the protests and everything which was really interesting to see.

Speaker 2 5:47

Yeah, and Ian got all nerdy with his economics talk.

Speaker 1 5:54

My economics man.

Speaker 2 5:56

But it is interesting. I mean, do you want to give just kind of a yeah notes on it?

Economic Crisis and Wine Discussion

Speaker 1 6:03

Yeah, if you didn't watch that episode. Basically, farmers in Bordeaux, in France Bordeaux is the home to great site Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franck, Merlot, et cetera, et cetera and others. But there is a crisis happening where production costs are going up a lot, so just the cost for to operate their business is going way up. That could be propane, it could be diesel, it could be wires, anything, anything small. Because of COVID, everything went up in price because there was a supply chain issue for a while, but those prices never went back down to the original price before COVID, which is bullshit.

Speaker 2 6:52

So and so now I am trying to start. On March 31st, everybody dropped their prices by $2.

Speaker 1 7:00

Everyone has to. Let's change this economy Everybody.

Speaker 2 7:03

Put it on Reddit. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 7:04

If you own a business, especially.

Speaker 2 7:09

Even for a week. Let's see what happens.

Speaker 1 7:12

We call out Procter and Gamble and.

Speaker 2 7:16

Yeah, see what happens.

Speaker 1 7:18

P&G and you know, big pharma, Drop your prices by $2.

Speaker 2 7:26

See what happens March 31st.

Speaker 1 7:28

Calling it out.

Speaker 2 7:29

I'm trying to buy a house. Let's get this economy back on track. We're just trying to afford to live you know I would like to buy groceries that aren't $350 for just vegetables. That would be wonderful, and if you're going to tell me to shop, better go fuck yourself. Because, I try to.

Speaker 1 7:48

And you have to live below your means? Yeah, which means I would be buying cans of beans and that's for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Speaker 2 7:56

Yeah, or potatoes.

Speaker 1 7:58

Or just potatoes. Live like the Irish.

Speaker 2 8:00

Live like the Irish baby, Like the Irish Like your ancestors. Yeah, and is where my ancestors came from.

Speaker 1 8:10

Did they? I just assumed because you have red hair.

Speaker 2 8:14

Sure did.

Speaker 1 8:15

Sure did.

Speaker 2 8:16

I am mostly finished, though.

Speaker 1 8:19

You're finished with what?

Speaker 2 8:21

Irish. What's a fucking name. You're finished with the Irish.

Speaker 1 8:25

You don't want the Irish anymore. You're done.

Speaker 2 8:27

Oh, you're so stupid, you're the Irish.

Speaker 1 8:33

I'm mostly Welsh and Austrian. What up Shout?

Speaker 2 8:39

out Rexham.

Speaker 1 8:40

Rectum.

Speaker 2 8:41

Rexham oh.

Speaker 1 8:42

Fuck you. Rexham is a soccer club in Wales that is owned by that one guy, Ryan Reynolds. Oh Daddy.

Speaker 2 8:57

Ryan Reynolds aka Deadpool. His name's pronounced Daddy.

Speaker 1 9:02

Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know if he's Welsh or not, but his heritage might be.

Speaker 2 9:09

I don't know why he got so into it. Have you seen that meme? No, or it's like a video where this guy's like American names that people always mispronounce Ryan Reynolds how you actually say it is Daddy and I'm like yes, yeah, that's his football club that he owns hits rexham FC.

Speaker 1 9:38

I would love to go to a game because I am mostly Welsh and I want to see Wales.

Speaker 2 9:42

Do you even know? Been there ever? So do you even know? Like could you watch the game and understand?

Speaker 1 9:50

Do I know how soccer works? Yes, I do, are you sure? Yeah, yep, I've watched Ted Lasso three times every season. I used to play soccer when I was a kid, you know for a long time.

Speaker 2 10:05

That means absolute. Yeah, it means a lot Nothing.

Speaker 1 10:09

It means I was a fucking star.

Speaker 2 10:11

First of all, you probably kicked the ball in the wrong fucking goal. Never did that once.

Speaker 1 10:16

I had the strongest leg on the whole team. I kicked it super fucking far to the other end of the field where it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 10:23

No wonder why I can't quit drinking, because you're friends with me.

Speaker 1 10:29

I'm sorry I wreck your life.

Speaker 2 10:31

All right, so we need to explain what we're drinking right now. You haven't done this for this, so we're drinking from Dew Vintners. It is a saurot, it is called. Some days are diamonds Some days are diamonds. Apparently, they discuss, they discuss. They also have a saurot called some days are stones. Yes, would you like to explain where they're located?

Speaker 1 11:00

Yes, they're located in Maltby. The Maltby vault that is north of Woodenville, I think about 15 minutes, not that far. I pass it. I mean if you go, if some of you are live in Washington state and you go highway two over to like Baffle area, you'll pass the Maltby vault. It's actually the first traffic light you hit coming back from Monroe. You just take a right and it's right there. Really cool spot. Maltby vault has Latteras winery there. They're awesome. Jm Sellers is there, who a lot of people know of, and two Vittners. There's Guardian Sellers, which is pretty good, and there's a distillery there too, which is cool. Two Vittners also has a tasting room in Woodenville as well.

Speaker 2 12:01

I love two Vittners.

Speaker 1 12:03

They're great.

Speaker 2 12:04

So yummy they're super awesome.

Speaker 1 12:06

He does a lot of great wine, so he has two, two different sauras. Some are diamonds, some days are diamonds, some days are stones. The stones one comes from the Rocks district, very well named.

Speaker 2 12:21

And this one comes from Horse Heaven.

Speaker 1 12:23

Hills yes, horse, heaven Hills, which is near Red Mountain, and so on. The original episode, if you watched it, I said it, I know it is the name of these two sauras are inspired by something musical and I was right and I looked it up, it is John Denver. He has a song called Some Days Are Diamonds and parentheses, some Days Are Stones, so apparently he's a big John Denver fan, which is cool. I love it when people name their wines off of something that they're very much in love with, like music or something like that. I mean upside down wines. They have Devils Alire, which is a name from Devils Alire, rick Ross and Jay-Z, and then one of them actually that I just remembered today is called Shooting in the Gym, and that's another high end, a higher tier wine from from upside down wines, and that is from a song with Rick Ross and Drake, which is a funny story because the whole song was like about Kobe Kobe Bryant before he died. This is like during his prime.

Speaker 2 13:47

RIP.

Speaker 1 13:48

RIP, and his wife Vanessa, who's an amazing person from what I've heard, and she's so hot I don't know her but she seems like an amazing person, seems super nice, but they were thinking about a divorce or they were filing for divorce at one point and she was going for, well, like half of what he owned or something like that, half of his money or something like that.

Speaker 1 14:15

And Drake on his verse. In that song he said bitch, he wasn't with me when I was shooting in the gym. And then Rick Ross said it behind them again like you wasn't with me when I was shooting in the gym, cause all that work he put into his career and everything elevated him to be the black mamba, to be Kobe, to be the inspiration he has just so many different people and she want to take half of his hard work. I mean it. You know, whatever divorce, divorce it sucks, but that's just the reality of it.

Speaker 2 14:49

If she's with a mom with kids, that was before the kids or after.

Speaker 1 14:54

I think it was before the kids, it was an older song for sure, okay, I just discussed with you about my life and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 15:04

Fuck, yeah, I'm digging it.

Speaker 1 15:07

But at the same time, like Drake put out something and Rick Ross and they're like, they put it like an I'm sorry thing to Vanessa, because it was like it was one line.

Speaker 2 15:17

Yeah, cause they probably put them in a verse. Put them in.

Speaker 1 15:20

And Vanessa was pissed about it. Yeah, you know, good for her. Anyways, and then he has some other stuff too that is more kind of around music theme, which is really cool, and I love it when people do that with their wines and name their wines that way. I think it's awesome.

Speaker 2 15:35

Feel like this podcast is becoming. What wines can we find that are named after music? I just love music.

Speaker 1 15:44

One of my hobbies is music. I make playlists for days. I love playlists.

Speaker 2 15:51

I have playlists for every mood, all right, give the tasting notes on this one.

Speaker 1 15:54

Tasting notes. So this has opened up a little bit since we opened it. On the main episode I was gonna pour another thing, but this is enough. So I'm still getting some reduction on the nose. I don't know if that is actually reduction or if it's just mineral. It almost kind of smells like. It almost smells Italian kind of clay pot, kind of terracotta like, but not quite. There are some herbs involved. I would say like rosemary kind of. Again, a hint of rosemary.

Speaker 2 16:31

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:33

And some star Anise I don't even know what I'm saying. Or, star Anise, I swear to God sometimes you make up words, anise. Yeah, some people say Anise, anise, you're an Anise God.

Speaker 2 16:54

I love you sometimes. I love you all the time.

Speaker 1 16:58

My girl's in the background talking to us. She was like it's not an Anise, it is an Anise. Well, that happened, super exciting.

Speaker 2 17:09

Sorry.

Speaker 1 17:12

Is the glass, okay, wow, super durable. Shout out to Riedel, riedel, riedel. It has a stand. You can just put it on there. There you go. Wow, rocky, some crazy times on set. I'm gonna continue breaking down this wine while she grabs, I think, a towel or something like that. We have hardwoods, we don't have carpet, so we're good here. What are you? So, yeah, more herbs like star anise is there.

Speaker 1 17:47

I don't think that's an herb, but actually it might be Kind of fennel-like and on the palate you got your towel. Same cleanup, jesus Christ, palette, I'm getting a lot more earth, still getting that earth, that soil like gardening soil I was talking about earlier. Ew, it kind of has a little Brett. I think he does all native ferments too. You're good, just leave it. Do you have wine oil? Yeah, we do Wine oil. We got wine oil on deck at all times. I'm gonna clean it up afterwards. I think it has a touch of Brett, he does all native fermentations, and so you good.

Speaker 2 18:53

I fucking hate my life sometimes.

Speaker 1 18:54

Hey, it's all good, You're fine.

Speaker 2 18:58

I'm surprised. That's the first time I did that.

Speaker 1 19:01

Honestly me too.

Speaker 2 19:01

And honestly that was probably the most sober I've done. That or sober.

Speaker 1 19:06

You've been on this podcast, on this podcast, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 19:09

Which is probably the problem.

Speaker 1 19:11

That might be the issue.

Speaker 2 19:13

That's crazy Interesting.

Speaker 1 19:15

You gotta get drunk in order not to fuck up, apparently, or I was distracted by this hot lady across the room.

Winemaking and Storage Challenges

Speaker 1 19:20

Could be. She's very distracting sometimes. The best ways. Going back to the wine, I think there is some Brett in here. That Brett is Britannomyces. It's a wild yeast strain that is in large quantities will produce like horsey, like horse manure or band-aid profiles, which is terrible. You don't want it in your wine. But a lot of old world wines have a touch of Brett and some people say it adds complexity. When it's not overbearing, it's not too much, which this is not too much. So it does have like a little Brett thing going. I think that gives it a lot of the earthiness that I'm tasting in it. But he does all native fermentations. So native fermentation is you don't inoculate the fermentation, which means you don't add yeast. You don't add commercial yeast to anything to start an inoculation, to start the fermentation process. You just leave it there and then wait for it to take off on its own, which, as a winemaker, can be. If you're not used to doing native ferments. It can be nerve-wracking because you're used to doing something to help.

Speaker 2 20:35

Yeah, push it a little.

Speaker 1 20:36

Push it Um forward, but I've worked with a lot of native ferments and I've never had an issue with anything. If you're clean, you do it well and you're. You have a clean environment, clean winery. You shouldn't have a problem.

Speaker 2 20:49

Literally everything should be clean. Yeah, well, and it's even comes down to uh, like you've brought this up to maybe. Four is having clean tools, where, yeah, you know you have inside tools and outside tools.

Speaker 1 21:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:10

Just makes sense.

Speaker 1 21:12

Yep.

Speaker 2 21:13

Right.

Speaker 1 21:14

Yeah, I mean a lot of why makers I've worked for that do native ferments. They're very, very detailed, in particular about the tools that they use. Like this tool never touches the ground.

Speaker 2 21:27

Like as it should.

Speaker 1 21:28

Yeah, like this squeegee or this shovel or something like that. This shovel never touches the ground, so we put it, we hang it up when we're done with it and you never set it down the ground ever. Um, some people are a little bit more lenient that I've worked for, um, that honestly stresses me out.

Speaker 2 21:50

But hey, not my winery. The end of the day they're. Why not mine? I don't have to care about that.

Speaker 1 21:59

I don't have to care about everything all the time but, but Can only stress about so much. Yeah, nothing too, vittners. They do a really great job. They have two sorrows, they have a GSM, they do a lot of different things. They have a Zinfando Is their production facility in. It's in Maltby. Yeah, yeah, um.

Speaker 2 22:17

I haven't been there, I just drank their wine.

Speaker 1 22:19

I love their wine, you should go there, um, when Morgan is there and he'll give you a tour. Um, yeah, also, latteris is across the parking lot from them and he, he's really cool. His name is Tyler. I became friends with him, um, he's went to wine making school with the wine maker that I work for currently, and that's how I got that connection, and he's, um, he's just a really cool guy. He makes some some stellar re-sling, some really good uh, merlowe's that I think believe it or not? Um, I'm not usually a big Merlowe person, um, but his are really good. He's given me a tour a few, few different times of his space. Um, it is crazy, though, in Woodenville their spaces are so, so small. You're paying, you're playing Tetris all the time to get one thing. You need to move like 10 things out of the way just to get one thing, like one barrel, and so it is tedious.

Speaker 2 23:17

I really don't understand how they're doing it. I mean, obviously they have production facilities else place else Else places.

Speaker 1 23:28

Else places.

Speaker 2 23:33

Other places.

Speaker 1 23:33

Yeah, other places.

Speaker 2 23:35

Um, where they can bring the cases they need, or wherever it is, but yeah at the same time. I mean, some people actually make their wine there. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 23:49

Um yeah, like Lobo Hills, uh, um me, I went to. So I went to Lobo Hills and Woodenville. They're really really awesome. Um, if you remember that episode with Bree Davis that we had on she, we tasted their uh Sauvignon Blanc and it was really um, really phenomenal. I thought, um, especially for a new world Sauvignon Blanc and it was delicious. All their wines I thought were really great. Um, I bought a Grenache there but I took a little tour of this of the space, Really fucking tiny, super, super small.

Speaker 2 24:28

Well, and it's so funny because, like some of the production areas that we work around there, it, like we think, what we are around is can be tiny, yeah, oh yeah, um, and I mean the places that I worked for, uh, in California.

Speaker 1 24:47

They like one of them was a ranch and it was huge, so they had multiple barns that they turned into.

Speaker 2 24:53

They turned into yeah, To work.

Speaker 1 24:55

And you're just like, oh shit, so we have so much room to do anything we want. And then what? Then you see Woodenville and you're like how the fuck do you do this here?

Speaker 2 25:04

They're doing it out of there, so it's crazy, and I mean there's also storage.

Speaker 1 25:08

One thing you don't really realize when you are making wine is the storage capacity that you need, not just for barrels or tanks, but for the wine you bottled, because it doesn't go out the door the second you bottle it. Oh, you hold onto it for like what? Six months or something like that. Like yeah, I mean six months maximum, I think for most places Um well in that kind of area.

Speaker 1 25:33

So, oh, here here it's like six months maximum max. There it's like six months minimum. Yeah, so it's, uh, it's, you know, different tiers of what I'm making, um, their meaning California, um, but it is crazy because you need storage for those case goods, everything you bottled, all those cases of wine. You need storage for that. That's probably most of your storage besides barrels, and it's absolutely insane. So everyone in Wynville, I never see a pallet of cases.

Speaker 1 26:10

Oh no of wine when I go to Woodenville. I am assuming that they stop by their case goods warehouse and they get the cases that they need for the day.

Speaker 2 26:19

Yeah, they're there. Well, even here there's areas where Some wineries will Store it. There's like a actual storage unit for yeah, wine here, yeah and I know Quite a few wineries here actually store a bunch of the wine because now that they're producing more Mm-hmm, they just don't have the room.

Speaker 1 26:41

And I think it's a good idea to do that to run from those people, because then it's off of your site. You don't see it until it releases, and then you know when you need it. You go and get that pallet and then bring it to your winery. Yeah so you don't have to build a whole new building on your estate just for that.

Speaker 2 26:59

We should buy it, that's wise. Packing, shed and start our own storage unit.

Speaker 1 27:04

Dude, my friend. I told him at some point I want to open like a wine bar bottle shop and then after my falcon. Right after your falconry, yeah. And then he was like dude, honestly I wouldn't do that, I would just get into, like, wine storage. I was like wait what?

Speaker 2 27:20

and he's like, yeah, just you just own the building, get it, just own the building and you charge people build the building and you own it and you charge people.

Speaker 1 27:28

And he's at a wine shop and he's talking about wine storage for people for their own Personal collection. Yeah there's a lot of people don't have the storage for that and that's sometimes why they don't buy. I also have a problem Do they know, with wine sales going down, yeah, continue that problem honestly.

Speaker 2 27:49

Let's go. I'm talking to the winemaker today and I was like, you know it's. It's sales are going down, but also like, especially in like Seattle right now. Everybody but you know a lot of people are on this kick of going sober, and so it was a discussion of like NA wines, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 28:11

I have had a number of non-alcoholic wines and they were all garbage.

Speaker 2 28:18

It would be fun, you're disgusting like, get a handful of them, and mm-hmm try some.

Speaker 1 28:25

I would love to try it again. I mean, technology always improves, so Never a never not down to try it ran huh Said when was that?

Speaker 2 28:35

when the dinosaurs ran.

Speaker 1 28:36

Yeah, two years ago when the dinosaurs roamed the earth. No, I did. There's a. So there is an awesome estate called be a nesito. They make some of the best wine in the Central Coast of California and they're like oh we're Now we're experimenting with non-alcoholic wines, and so I had a rep come to the wine shop and I tasted it with him and he was do you want to try the non-alcoholic? I was like, sure, and there's a Chardonnay, there was a Pinot Noir and there was a rose. So we tried the Chardonnay first. It tasted like if you just had a cup of the movie theater Popcorn oil.

Speaker 1 29:23

Good in the movie theater. They're not. It's not butter, it's not actual.

Speaker 2 29:26

Yeah, the one like in a machine and your machine.

Speaker 1 29:28

Yeah, yeah. So if you just drank a cup of that, that's what that tasted like. It was just fucking gross.

Speaker 2 29:33

So have you done that before?

Speaker 1 29:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:37

What's the fuck's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 29:39

No, I have. I've had the the oil on the popcorn, but it just tasted like just the oil without the popcorn involved and it was just gross.

Speaker 2 29:49

Have you had the oil without the popcorn before?

Speaker 1 29:51

no, of course not.

Speaker 2 29:53

Well, it sounds like you have. I haven't so how would you know what it tastes like?

Speaker 1 29:57

because I put it on the fucking popcorn dog.

Speaker 2 30:02

Thank you. Okay, fine feel like you have to experience this alone to understand.

Speaker 1 30:10

Maybe I will next time. So basically it was flabby, no acid tasted like.

Speaker 2 30:18

Ball sack.

Speaker 1 30:20

I don't know that tastes like you do, but I don't Tasted like just.

Speaker 2 30:27

Okay, coming from the one that just said that you don't know what oily Fake butter tastes like.

Speaker 1 30:35

I put it on my popcorn so I can imagine what it tastes like alone, without the popcorn, you know no, I don't, because I've. I've never put potting soil in my mouth, but that's why I imagine Some of this tastes like that has an earthy ever been a child that's ran outdoors?

Speaker 2 30:59

No, there has to be a time. No, never run outdoors you were one of those fucking Like be played video games all day, and never was that actually my parents didn't allow video games in the house. I know there had to be a point in your life, or as a little kid you're like I.

Speaker 1 31:16

Remember that shit taste?

Speaker 2 31:19

I wrote that taste like yeah, cuz it's already stuck in your head, you don't have to shit.

Speaker 1 31:24

Half the tasting notes that you say Are what a thing smells, like it tastes like rock like rock, like if I say oh, this is more slate or this is more gravel, or this is more. It's more because we don't slate.

Speaker 2 31:43

I've had wet slate.

Speaker 1 31:45

You licked wet slate before fuck, yeah, I have okay, interesting expound on that please.

Speaker 2 31:54

Couldn't tell you when. It rare, but I remember.

Speaker 1 31:58

Licking it. Okay that's cool. Never done that before, but like I know what River Rock smells like and so sometimes like that in certain Chardonnay's. I'm like, oh, this is like River Rocky. You know like that's not. I haven't licked a River Rock. I know it smells like so and your smell is 85% of River Rock.

Speaker 2 32:21

I think I'll be a River Rock. A River Rock? Are we considering algae?

Speaker 1 32:28

No fresh River, of fresh flowing River like the ones yet there is a river River of a flowing River? I'm sure there are yes.

Speaker 2 32:43

I'm sure there are it's where the little toads go in and they Make little baby toads. Okay, all right, I'm not much of an outdoorsy person, so Wouldn't necessarily that's why I've licked rocks, and you have a near over here with your oily butter.

Speaker 1 33:02

Not false, not false.

Speaker 2 33:08

Well, if you want to know how we get our tasting notes, we talk about shit like this yeah that's how we get our.

Speaker 1 33:18

Tasting notes are interesting because 90% of the time Ian's making it up dude, we're all making it up. Does it actually taste like cherries?

Speaker 2 33:35

When is last time you had kept this?

Speaker 1 33:37

let me think yesterday. Nice, I saw that that's kind of like a dodgeball reference, like the movie dodgeball. Yes, oh my god, the coach, the dodgeball coach yes. When they said something. I don't know the context was, but he said but why do I drink my own pee? Because it's sterile and I like the taste.

Speaker 2 34:10

Sam.

Speaker 1 34:13

Huh.

Speaker 2 34:14

Sam recently watched stepbrothers. He's like what a great movie.

Speaker 1 34:19

I need to watch that again.

Speaker 2 34:20

Oh my god, some of the things you can say back then that you can't say.

Speaker 1 34:24

Oh yeah, oh. I mean, there's so many, so many movies.

Speaker 2 34:28

I've watched like older movies wish we would bring back some of those terms.

Speaker 1 34:34

Pineapple Express when?

Speaker 2 34:36

oh my god Seth.

Speaker 1 34:37

Rogen actually our winemaker Brought this up to me like yesterday. He was like every watch probably express and I just couldn't, couldn't get past the fact that he's apparently a 25 year old man and apparently dating an eight-year-old, new year old high school girl and they make out in the high school hallway and he's like that's, that's a little too much for me.

Speaker 2 34:58

He's like I can't.

Speaker 1 35:00

I can't watch this.

Speaker 2 35:02

He also has a daughter. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 35:06

I think that has more to do with it with us people that don't have kids. We're just like Laughing yeah, that's fucking dumb, what a creep. But whatever you do you, I guess she's 18 she can apparently make her own decisions decisions while living in her parents house.

Speaker 2 35:33

There is that.

Exploring Tasting Notes Through Conversation

Speaker 1 35:35

Okay all right, I think our time is up for the day.

Speaker 2 35:38

I talked about tasting notes today.

Speaker 1 35:40

We did enjoy, it know more about tasting notes Let us know. Yes, enjoy. Some swag by some Shwee Bung pod store. We're there.

Speaker 2 35:54

Bung pod store.

Speaker 1 35:55

Yes.

Speaker 2 35:57

We'd be like that store store dot store. Dot com dot store.

Speaker 1 36:05

No, calm, just store.

Speaker 2 36:08

Just a store. Damn that smells good. All right, be a game of tasting notes we out All right.

Speaker 1 36:16

Thank you, jabonny gang. Cheers, cheers oh.

Speaker 2 36:21

I guess I. Could, can be allowed one more sip.