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Based in Washington State, Bung Pod is a wine podcast fusing comedic and unfiltered, unapologetic conversation with the passion of wine and unruly hot takes. Hosted by Ian King and Jas Shattuck with interviews by special guests within the wine community. Whether you are ready to learn something new about wine and grow your knowledge, or you are just here to have a good time, this podcast is for you!
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Speaker 1Bung Pod. Welcome back Wine Wonderboy. And we got Jazzy, j Jazzy. What is a bung? The whole of the barrel is called a bung hole. It's called a bung hole Inside the bung hole is called a bung Wine with mayhem. That's what it's about. Welcome back to the bung pod. Everybody, I'm your host, ian King, aka Wine Wonderboy, and we got my co-host with me, jazzy J. Jazzy, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey. How about?
Speaker 2another Picnic Baskin. I'm Fat Albert, oh what.
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Speaker 1Welcome back to the pod, everybody. Thank you for listening. We got a few things that we're rolling today. So first, like we do, we're going to drink some wine and we're gonna tell you all about it, and then we're gonna talk a little bit about American wine, merkin, merkin. Why Merka, merka American wine, and why you should be buying more and more American wine exclusively these past couple months.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1It's an interesting topic.
Speaker 2Time to start binging bitches.
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Speaker 2I'm gonna talk. Now that we are coming to the end of pruning season, it's time to educate you guys on why you're seeing these. Well, really, I'm educating you on the pruning styles that we know here, at least in Washington, and we'll talk a little bit about that, what we're looking for, what it's called, all that good stuff. So that's what we're gonna go in depth on as well.
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Speaker 2We need like a little name for when I go into my vineyard lifestyle.
Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah Well you got a nickname for you.
Speaker 2You already have, like a new nickname a vineyard nickname, no, but like all right, we're going into the I don't know oh like a segment.
Speaker 1A segment, yes, I feel I get your, I get your, I got it. I got it. I got it. A segment Vedic culture segment.
Speaker 2Vedic culture segment with Jazz.
Speaker 1Yeah.
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Speaker 2Literally. All right, let's start off. What are we drinking?
Speaker 1We are drinking a dry re-sling.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1Bone dry re-sling. This is from Latteras Winery. They are based in the Maltby Vault. It's outside of Woodenville.
Speaker 2Can I say I thought that was.
Speaker 1That's where Two Vittners is as well. Okay, that's why I reckon it the Y-Makers Tyler great, great dude. I love him, but this is their dry re-sling their 2020 dry re-sling from Bakas Vineyard, white Bluffs 100% re-sling, fermented, dry and stainless steel. This is a re-sling unlike the rest. Chris Melon and Honey Notes dominate the aroma on this unique white, and that's true.
Speaker 2No, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 1That's true. All right, it does have a lot of honey characteristic it is bone dry people. So people think re-sling is sweet. It's just not sweet. This is bone dry, has a little bit of the petrol, petrol diesel aromatics.
Speaker 2But it's like right on quick, it's quick on the nose.
Speaker 1I absolutely love that in re-sling Some of my favorite things. And on the palette let's see Honeydew baby, honeydew Melon, honeydew Melon. Oh, it's got some floral notes in there too, like white flowers. Beautiful, beautiful wine.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I love this.
Speaker 2It is dry. You know, it's funny because actually today I had someone come in and they were picking up their wine club allotment and they were supposed to get a re-sling but I was out of it and so I was like, what would you like to replace with it?
Speaker 2And they're thinking and like you know, I'm glad it's not like I'm glad because I don't really like re-sling and she was at all and she was tasting at the time and I go, oh yeah, I can understand that, Like you know, they got a bad rep Like I feel like Barefoot and like those lower brand. Bulk wine Bulk wines have really just ruined a re-sling because they're always sweet.
Speaker 1They ruined a lot of things for a lot of people.
Speaker 2Yeah, sure, like chablis for one.
Speaker 1White Zinfandel.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh God yeah.
Speaker 1That was a sin.
Speaker 2I couldn't even drink that now.
Speaker 1That was an absolute sin.
Speaker 2But she's like, yeah, I don't like that. And so I'm giving her tastings and I looked at her and goes so how do you like that? She's like, oh, it's great, I go. Okay. So that has 80% re-sling. And she's like what, excuse me?
Speaker 1How dare you? Let me try something and open my mind.
Speaker 2And I was like, yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, I mean, I feel like bulk wine has really ruined, or just given the idea of Reaslings are only sweet or white and synthantyl is only sweet and in college loved them cheap biamin magnums last me half an hour, but they did ruin the actual grape itself. I mean, a dry reasling does not. Yeah, just kind of regular A reasling in general is not like that. I mean a lot of people that like you when you were tasting, say, 20 merlows or whatever crab frogs yeah.
Speaker 2I mean, it's always kind of the go to at the end of okay, let me have some reasling to refresh in my palate. And I feel like we've discussed that before.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2But yeah, reaslings. Just people need to stop being so scared of them.
Speaker 1Yeah, they're misunderstood. They are misunderstood grape that's how I feel sometimes. I feel all the time is understood.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, literally.
Speaker 1Literally.
Speaker 2All right, what else? What's what Give me?
Speaker 1So something came to my attention. If you guys listen to the Chris Horn podcast episode, that's number 12. It was great. It was awesome.
Speaker 2I'm glad to have probably one of our best.
Speaker 1Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2I was so glad to have you all that we've interviewed.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Really, I've just been on the sidelines. You've done wonderful jobs on the interviewing.
Speaker 1Thank you, I try. I'm trying to get better at interviewing, yeah, so something caught my attention on Instagram and so I follow the link, and what I was going to say about the Chris Horn podcast episode was one thing that we touched on was the kind of recession or wine purchasing recession right now that we're going through yeah, and it's really worldwide, not just United States, but I feel like it takes it hits harder to the US.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1And that's because all of these brands are still paying off their land. They're still paying off their loans, or babies. We are babies. We're not like France, italy, spain, all those.
Speaker 1They're inheriting the land and inheriting the business and it's been in their family for generations and generations, and that's why it's so inexpensive to get a wine shop and whatnot. But American wineries are really, really struggling more than most. And so what I saw on Instagram was Patrick Cappiello. He is a big influence or he was a big influence in the New York Somalia scene. He is someone I've looked up to a lot throughout my wine education. He could go Google or YouTube, patrick Cappiello, and there are some awesome, awesome little YouTube things that they did with another company. I think it was like food and wine or something like that but he's a great dude, amazing, amazing knowledge base and amazing person. And then he moved out to California, to Sonoma, and he started his own wine brand called Montereo Sellers with a winemaker called Pax Mall. It does Pax wines.
Speaker 2I do want to say this almost follows the concept of when we brought up the issues in France with the whole farming and the government.
Speaker 1With the protests. Yeah, the protests in Bordeaux.
Speaker 2I feel like this does kind of fall in the same line as that. So if you haven't listened to that podcast, take a look out of it. Look at it. And we released that win probably a month ago.
Speaker 1Yeah. By the time you guys hear this, it'll be like two months. It's number 11.
Speaker 2Number 11? Yeah, number 11. God, you have good memory sometimes. Oh, I edit everything. All edits are him. I just am here to look good.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I didn't have to agree to that, thanks. I mean, we are in a recession. This is a luxury item. I mean you don't even think about it that way, especially as just an everyday consumer. But wine is a luxury. Being part of a wine club is a luxury. Not the average Joe can afford to, or our average can't afford to be part of a wine club. You know, even if it is $100 every quarter or every three months or whenever they release it, you know it varies depending on winery, but sometimes $100, even though they are still probably purchasing wine during that time. I mean, like it's like a wine club, it's like, oh, I can't afford that, but in reality they are still going out and buying alcohol. Yeah, but seriously, it's becoming a problem. Yeah, even last year compared to the year prior. As someone that lives in Lake Shilan, that works in this industry, even scheduling employees like and you know that takes a toll on money at the end of the day is do I bring in two people? Do I bring in five people?
Speaker 2Right, I think that's like this yeah. Yeah, now I have five people sitting here waiting for that four o'clock rush, even though we close at five because that's when we get our rush. But then there's no rush. And now what?
Support American Wineries, Shop Local
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean getting. So getting to this article. So Patrick Cappiello posted this sub stack article on his Instagram page and I followed it because it's wine news and it's really important and I work at a winery and-.
Speaker 1And we are seeing this and we are seeing this, that there is a struggle, and so American wine, it says. American wineries are struggling right now. We have a huge amount of inventory and a huge decrease in sales and you can help us. We are asking you for one thing drink our wines by our wines. So Patrick Cappiello posted this sub stack article on Instagram. I'll follow the link. I will link this sub stack article in the show notes. So go to the show notes, click the article and I encourage you to read it. I will go over it a little bit today with you guys. So what's happening is, while they're saying they're seeing like a 20% decrease and when I was talking to Chris Horn, he said about he's seen like a 4% decrease in the restaurant industry, and what I said on the in response to him I was like it feels like 20.
Speaker 2And then it happens to be for wineries 20, which is crazy, and so what's happening is because I guess in general, like if you have wholesale too, you know even that slows down is even though they're not buying at the winery. Cause, yeah, I get like you don't live here, it's hard to go to the winery, but then again right or even pay for shipping, but then again, like you, could go to the stores and even they're decreasing as well.
Speaker 1And then I'll quote Patrick Capiello on this article right now. He said, quote if we don't shift the focus right now to concentrate on drinking domestic wine and supporting domestic producers, then producers will have worked so hard to build change on what we're doing here and they're the ones that are going to fail, and quote. So what he's talking about is, with this wine recession, with all these sales going down, the ones that are going to fail are going to be the boutique, high quality wineries that make handcrafted wine. The ones that will succeed are going to be bulk winemakers. You know people like Gallo, people like constellation brands, you know, like all those people will be fine, the revenues will be down, but they're going to survive and it's the smaller labels which many, many people adore and prefer their wines over store bought.
Speaker 2Yes, I mean it's definitely grocery store bought.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's definitely an experience when you go to these small wineries. But also it goes to the concept of shop local. You know keeping your money in local businesses and you know, you even see that, especially with Amazon, the amount of businesses that have had to close because they can't be supported by their friends and families and neighbors is really unfortunate, right, and you know it goes into just not just what, but this goes into the little people of boutique clothing stores and stuff like that, as you got to support your local people. I get Amazon is it's easy, it's literally swipe and it's there. But at the same time, even though it might cost $10 more at your neighbor's little business, it's. It's worth it because that goes a long way, not only for their business but within your community. And I feel like a lot of people don't understand that because they just love the concept of oh, I can go on Amazon and buy whatever I want. I mean, I've even bought kombucha on there, Like you can buy food and all this stuff.
Speaker 2That it you know it makes it too easy and it's probably cheaper, which I get because it's a bigger company. It's a big corporation, they can sell it for cheaper. But again, stay local. I mean, you really need to and help these smaller.
Speaker 1And if you're someone like me that loves variety in their wine selection and your local wineries don't have a lot of variety, like not knocking our wine region, shaland, but, like most wineries, have the same great varieties that they grow apart from a couple.
Speaker 1Right, I mean, you see it over and over and over again, but make sure like you can still have a variety of wine of great varietals if you're worried about that, just by American, because people like Patrick, kapp, yellow and Pax they experiment with Truceau Noir, truceau Gree, he does Pequettes Like they do a lot of stuff over there, especially in Sonoma. I see most of those lesser known great varieties in Sonoma and Santa Barbara so I see most of those being grown there and if you don't want to, you know if you want a larger variety of wines in your selection. I understand that completely. Just by just trying by American and what Patrick said.
Speaker 2There are fancy big names here. It's not like there's not. But just because it comes from France doesn't mean you're that bougie. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1So they're not sure if this. In the article they kind of stated that they're not sure if this is a change in generational spending or not. Because one thing I saw on a New York Times article. I just read a headline and I didn't read the whole article, but it said that the wine industry is dying along with the older generation.
Speaker 2It didn't say that verbatim. I did read something about because of cannabis.
Speaker 1Because of weed, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Well and I can see it Like a lot of people you know they get stoned.
Speaker 1Weed is good with wine people.
Speaker 2Okay, settle down.
Speaker 1I do it all the time, not like a bottle, but like I won't have multiple glasses. You know, if I have weed then I'll have like a glass, just like alcohol it's, you know, moderation.
Speaker 2Exactly.
Speaker 1So you can't be binging on that.
Speaker 2But like at the same time, more people feel like they can drive. Let's say they shouldn't.
Speaker 1No I am not, absolutely not.
Speaker 2I'm still unsignatured, but still don't do that. But you know what I mean. I would rather have someone that's high, going 10 under the speed limit, than a drunk driver. And yeah, I don't know, that's a crazy thought and I am going to get probably so much hatred on social media for that. But you know, I would rather and honestly like I make poor decisions when I drink and when I'm stoned I'm probably making poor decisions with my fridge.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I was going to say like poor decisions. You know, I make terrible decisions when I'm high, but it's usually in the context of calories. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2And you know what? I wrote a paper in college about weed and how it should be legal and all this stuff and how it's not just a it's not just a open door to more drugs, Like that whole idea, and I go, if anything, it's just the open door to my fridge.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean that whole thing came from Nancy Reagan and it was a whole government.
Speaker 2Oh my God, it was just a government like misinformation campaign. Here we go, go down the rabbit hole. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1I got that lecture from my parents.
Speaker 2Oh, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 1And then I mean I didn't touch weed for the longest time because of you know what? What they?
Speaker 2said my God, next thing I know I'm doing heroin. Like what yeah?
Speaker 1And I grew up in Seattle so I saw a plenty of homeless people growing up so I was like I don't want to be like them.
Speaker 2Well, gosh, I went to the stair climb this past weekend and I was hammered.
Speaker 1I mean let's? I'll just say this Seattle is nowhere near what. La is Okay With homeless people.
Speaker 2But it was okay, hold up.
Speaker 1Nowhere near.
Speaker 2I was, so I started my day off with mimosas because, as a girl, should. And then we're waiting for everybody to chime.
Speaker 1Did you do the spray bottle? Do you use the orange juice in?
Speaker 2the spray bottle.
Speaker 1Spritz, your spritz your bubbles.
Speaker 2No because we had to, we had to make them in the bathroom.
Speaker 1So we didn't have to get caught, remind you it's 8 am Classy.
Speaker 2Remind you, it's 8 am. So then we went to go get seltzers at this 7-eleven where they were doing CPR on them.
Speaker 1So you're the reason why wine is in decline right now.
Speaker 2Shut up, just kidding. But then there was a guy getting CPR while I'm trying to get my seltzers to go watch people climb the Columbia Tower and I literally looked at the cash register person and was like can I please take these out of the box so I don't get jumped the moment that I go out? He's like I understand, and we put him in like plastic cups so we weren't just out in public. But then next thing I know I'm like blacked out by two and I was so drunk I went to the bathroom and I was like I need to go on a walk. Dumb ass me goes on a walk with no self-defense which was surprising, because normally I have like a taser or something on me went on a walk around the block. It wasn't like a far walk with just hammered no defense, was this?
Speaker 1at night or in the day.
Speaker 2It was like 2pm. Okay, all right, yeah, and I'm in the middle of. Seattle and walking the block. Just everybody I passed was probably like this poor girl, she probably just went through a breakup. No, I did not break up with Sam and obviously, and I get back and the whole team was like where have you been? I don't ever do that again. We thought you got like raped and like all this stuff.
Speaker 1This is also small town people going to a big city, so there is a lot of that involved too. All the firefighters that your friends with that you went with, are all small town firefighters.
Speaker 2And also there's. I mean 2000 people went up, did this stair climb and they all go to the circle bar. It's like an Irish pub downtown.
Speaker 1Seattle. Is it in post alley no. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2It's by the ferry, though.
Speaker 1I went to one post-alliator on Patty's Day last year.
Speaker 2Okay, okay so, but yeah, everybody shows up to this bar and here I am just stumbling my ass around and I'm like and Sam, just like, this isn't the same as last year. I'm like what, but yeah?
Speaker 1What happened last year? You said it wasn't the same as last year. That wasn't involved. Oh, you weren't involved.
Speaker 2No, actually it's the taste of Washington which is this week, or well, I mean the weekend that we're recording this.
Speaker 1It is this weekend.
Speaker 2It is this weekend Case.
Speaker 1Washington At some point. We would love to have a booth there. I don't know if they allow other people other than wineries to go?
Speaker 2I think they do. Yeah, that would be cool for us to have a booth. Well, they allow food. Why can't I be on there? I can eat and drink.
Speaker 1Right, right.
Speaker 2I would love to be.
Speaker 1I would love to be sick, it'd be fun for us to be part of Yo Taste Washington A wine event like that.
Speaker 2Yeah, it'd be cool. Help us out, All right, but back to the point. I mean okay, back to buying small town wine is.
Speaker 1Just buy American wine. It doesn't have to be small, I mean, but also support local.
Speaker 2If you're in a small town, support local. Yeah, no matter who it is, obviously support your wineries.
Speaker 1Basically, the idea is support support boutique wineries, Ones that don't make like I don't know.
Speaker 2What ones?
Speaker 1that make less than 100,000 cases a year.
Speaker 2Yes, or less than 10, less than 10,000 cases. Yeah, I would say 10,000.
Speaker 110,000 of reasonable amount. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Walk in and be like how many cases do you make?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2All right, I got you.
Speaker 1So for a cool exercise, let's you go first Name off top five Washington wineries for people to buy. In Chilean or in the state, or actually you know, let's just do whatever US of fucking a, just like the whole, the whole gambit, top five.
Speaker 2So obviously I'm going to go with, like Baymorge Island winery, eagle Harbor winery, because small town, those are my people, that's where I came from.
Speaker 1Do you like their wine?
Speaker 2I do like their wine, okay, and I like them. They're good people.
Speaker 1Because we're telling people to go buy their wines right now.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, they're doing great things. Especially if you're on Baymorge, I mean, it's definitely like a destination place. So I hope you visit, go support them, and I'm going to say I'll say Vershalan, that got stressful.
Speaker 1It's like in the whole US Whole.
Speaker 2US.
Speaker 1Whole US.
Speaker 2But then I think of like, Napa and like skip Napa, they're fine. They got a lot of money. I skip Napa and like any. Oh, janine, it's from Matthews.
Speaker 1Jane.
Speaker 2Jane.
Speaker 1They're fucking awesome. Love that Love. Jane, oh my God, they're they're, they're recently, are fucking good too.
Speaker 2Well, and the place in Woodenville oh, so cute, it's awesome. I really liked.
Speaker 1And they only do white wines and rosés which is an awesome business model Totally.
Speaker 2And they do a really good job it was honestly one of the only wine clubs that I consider joining. And honestly, now that we're talking about it, I might still go join them.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like white wine is that much.
Speaker 2Well, I never have them and I, every time I go to a winery, for some reason, I always buy reds and I always tell myself you don't need any more reds and I usually buy reds because my my person.
Speaker 1She all she drinks is red wine. She doesn't drink.
Speaker 2See, okay, that makes sense, we're like I.
Speaker 1It's mostly all reds, but if I, if I buy a white wine, it's for me. I know that in my friends whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah so, but I need to buy more whites, Even though.
Speaker 1I've been trying to get her on the white wine trying to use, not on it, so I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah, um, I love, love, love them. Um, I also really like Lada.
Speaker 1So Bainbridge.
Speaker 2Eagle Harbor Lada.
Speaker 1Eagle Harbor is that's what their name is. Eagle Harbor, lada, lada, jane, jane. And then I'll throw in Lada is in Soto. Soto, yes, they're doing great things and really I meant to go hang out with them when I was in Soto when I was doing the Chris Horn podcast.
Speaker 2But I never got a chance. Honestly, everybody in Soto is wonderful. I love slay the hands, I love roti, I love cartes. Um, all of them are great, yeah. And then what else do I? Who else do I really? I mean, you know, cardis is up there, yeah, we're big supporters of Cardis on the pod. Yeah, Amos Rome is up there.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2They do a wonderful job.
Speaker 1Especially if you like white wines and bubbles, they're really good.
Speaker 2So good, yeah, they're white Pinot Noir. Talking about that with a customer today and it's really good. It's unique.
Speaker 1Not a lot of people do that. It's pretty unique.
Speaker 2It's so unique, it's so wonderful, it's one that I buy like a case of, yeah, and I love it Big fan. But again we're going down that white path and honestly, you've been on a white wine train lately. I have been on a white. Honestly, I think it's the weather.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's, weather's changing to warmer right now.
Speaker 2It's warmer, even light reds.
Speaker 1I'm on a big, I'll drink any wine, any day of the year. But, yeah, usually in the wintertime I go to, but I'm noticing myself, go into the white rosé and light red. Right.
Speaker 2Like that's just, I'm noticing.
Speaker 1And Okay, so you named off a bunch, so I can't choose the ones that you named off.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Because I agree with you, except for the first one, because I don't know who they are.
Speaker 2I've never.
Speaker 1I've never tasted their wines, so I can't agree on that.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1I've never had them. That's the only reason I've had all the other ones and they're awesome. So you said what's it called Eagle Harbor?
Speaker 2Eagle Harbor. Eagle Harbor, bainbridge, bainbridge Island winery.
Speaker 1Is that the same thing as Eagle Harbor? Nope, okay, so they're different. Where's Eagle Harbor?
Speaker 2On Bainbridge.
Speaker 1On Bainbridge, and then there's also Bainbridge winery, bainbridge Island winery, so I haven't had those two.
Speaker 2There's a couple on Bainbridge. Okay, yes.
Speaker 1That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2So one year for my birthday, I, my parents, got me a golf cart and they drove me to all the wineries on the island. I don't know why it was a golf cart, because that was probably super illegal, but because it's still a pretty big island it depends I mean it's still.
Speaker 1I mean Orange County has Balboa Island.
Speaker 2Well, it's still. It's a quote unquote.
Speaker 1It's not.
Speaker 2it's not like Bainbridge size, but Well, let's just say, by the end of the night I was hammered, and then I wanted to have a onesie party because that sounds fun, and I was a unicorn the rest of the night.
Speaker 1Nice, so it's Eagle Harbor, Bainbridge winery, Lada Cartus.
Speaker 2We'll say Amos Rome.
Speaker 1Amos Rome.
Speaker 2So I can't pick those ones.
Speaker 1So I can't pick those. So I'm going to dip in a little bit to California, because that's kind of where my winemaking roots are.
Speaker 2That's your stomping grounds.
Speaker 1I would recommend, if you like, sera a lot Jaffers.
Speaker 2Oh God, see these are the ones. I haven't been to. Oh, I guess I have been to Walla Walla too. I always forget, like Goose Ridge.
Speaker 1So I'll pick two from California. Last three will be Washington.
Speaker 2See, this is such a terrible question for me, but I'm like it's a hard one.
Speaker 1It's like top five that are live for hip hop rappers and stuff.
Speaker 2I also feel like you've gone to a lot more wineries than I have.
Speaker 1You have that's true, I have gone to a lot more than you have. I don't so much. That's fine, that's fine. So my top five is going to be Jaffers Go to do. You have to go there, Buy their wines. Anywhere you see them buy their wines, and then Carhartt Family Wines. Obviously you got to go.
Speaker 2You got to go.
Speaker 1You've got to go. You've had a bottle of theirs.
Speaker 2I bought it to you and two Vintners. I forgot about them.
Speaker 1Bro, let me get down with my list. Damn, you got you got to go to. She's just like naming off my list right now. Go to Latteris they're the bottle of the day for the podcast today. Go to Latteris and Maltbevault. Buy their wines. They're fucking awesome. Go to two Vintners they're right across the parking lot from them. They're awesome as well. We've had them, or their wines, on the podcast, not them on the podcast yet, although I'm hoping soon. And then I'm going to say, oh, this is so hard for me, this is difficult. Oh my God, there's so many. This is why it's so hard for me.
Speaker 2I know you said that and I was like, oh, I like this one, I like that though.
Speaker 1I mean definitely the walls. The walls is amazing, I love them. I also love Grammarcy, but I have to pick, so I'll say the walls over Grammarcy and then the last guy.
Speaker 2Wait. So how many have you had yet?
Speaker 1I've had four. So Jaffers, carhartt, two Vintners, the walls, oh shit, no, I'm at five already. I was going to say Damn. So I'm going to pick Carhartt, latteras, two Vintners, the walls. Those are my top five that you should buy.
Speaker 2Okay, there's 10 right there, people, and we spread out our range there.
Speaker 1So we did, we namedropped a bunch too.
Speaker 2Yes, so go support them. It's a big topic, it needs to be, and it doesn't hurt. Go support all them. Go wine tasting, even if it's one winery.
Speaker 1Exactly so. We should switch topics because we're running out of time, so let's switch topics to what you got going on. This will be a longer episode, which is fine. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2Or do we want to roll it over to?
Speaker 1Patreon.
Speaker 2Patreon.
Speaker 1We keep on doing this, we sneak I know. But you know what we sneak the topics in the beginning that we're going to be talking about, and then we run out of time and we go to Patreon.
Speaker 2So you know what? Go to Patreon and purchase baby. Yeah, Support us so we can get more on, or also what you can do.
Speaker 1what we started doing was chill out. That's fucking up, though. What you can also do if you don't want to pay for Patreon and the reason is because you listened to it on Spotify or Apple Music. We are releasing those episodes for a subscriber only on both Spotify, apple Music and Google Podcast, so you can subscribe for a little less than a Patreon to get an extra episode a week. So go to, you know, click the link in the show notes. We're going to have it there so you can subscribe to those and get your extra episode as well.
Speaker 2But also if you can afford $5, we would love it. It helps us yeah.
Supporting Podcast on Patreon
Speaker 1I mean what you can do with a subscriber. With a subscriber, one is it is, the base is like $3, but you can pick whatever payment that you want. I mean you know so five would be amazing $5 really goes a long way for someone. That's what I would ask $5.
Speaker 2$5. You don't need to be $20 at our top one. You don't need to be part of the OG crew, yeah, but like you can help us out, like if you're enjoying these podcasts, like not to be like a snobby little bitch, but you know we work hard, we're trying. Yeah, we're a small business. We are a small business Trying to just make it bitches.
Speaker 1Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2Thank you guys. See you on Patreon.
Speaker 1Love you. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
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