Bung Pod!
Based in Washington State, Bung Pod is a wine podcast fusing comedic and unfiltered, unapologetic conversation with the passion of wine and unruly hot takes. Hosted by Ian King and Jas Shattuck with interviews by special guests within the wine community. Whether you are ready to learn something new about wine and grow your knowledge, or you are just here to have a good time, this podcast is for you!
Bung Pod!
BONUS: Vintage Delight and Nostalgia: Wine Wonderboy & Julia from Tipsy Vine on Memories, TV Faves, and Shop Updates
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What if your wine could tell stories from the early 2000s? Join us as we welcome back Wine Wonderboy and introduce Julia from Tipsy Vine for a delightful journey into the world of vintage wines and nostalgic memories. We take on the challenge of opening a 2003 Pirouette red blend with a two-prong wine opener, ensuring that the cork stays intact. As we savor the notes of dried leaves and cigar boxes, we can't help but chuckle at the thought of drinking a wine that's old enough to drink itself. Amidst the laughter, we reminisce about RV camping trips and grooving to Dr. Dre's "The Chronic 2001."
Ever wondered what we watch when we're not tasting wine? The conversation shifts to our favorite TV shows that help us unwind, from the laugh-out-loud moments of "New Girl" and "Brooklyn Nine-Nine" to the gripping intensity of psychological thrillers. A recent viewing of the OJ Simpson documentary sparks a debate about his infamous downfall, juxtaposed with the wholesome nostalgia of childhood favorites like "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" and "Seinfeld." We also reflect on Will Smith's career trajectory and our enduring admiration for him, even in the face of recent controversies.
Exciting news from our wine shop wraps up this episode, with updates on upcoming events and collaborations. We're turning our back space into a prohibition-style event area and considering offering glass pours and bottle service. Our current wine selection features favorites like the Two Vintners Very Necessary and Chillable varieties. We share some behind-the-scenes fun, including structural integrity tests on our handcrafted bars, and emphasize the importance of an abundance mindset. Tune in for a wholesome mix of wine wisdom, TV talk, and shop updates that will leave you feeling inspired and entertained.
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Wine Opener and Music Memories
Speaker 1Bung pod . Welcome back Wine Wonderboy . And we got Jazzy J Jazzy . What is a bung ? The hole of the barrel is called a bung hole . Inside the bung hole is called a bung Wine with mayhem . That's what it's about . We'll get back to that . I want to know what that is .
Speaker 3All right , ready All the ladies in the room . Do you , though , get back to that ? I want to know what that is .
Speaker 1All right , ready ready , I'm always ready . Jabroni gang what up wine jabronis ? Uh . So if you watch the original episode of this number 21, . We have Julia here . Tipsy vine Um . Go follow her everywhere . The tipsy wine W ? A . The tipsy vine Wah Um . All everything . Website , instagram Um . Awesome Washington wine focused uh wine shop in spokane yeah , yeah throw a little
Speaker 1introduction zimbabwe in there um , we have . We have a wine that we're about to open . It's 2003 , from pirouette um it's a drink . It is a red wine blend . It's a blend of Deep throat , it's a blend of Cab Sauv , merlot , cab Franc . Oh , a little 10% Syrah in there and some Petit Verdot 3% Petit Verdot .
Speaker 3I bet you can taste it too I bet you can taste it .
Speaker 1So this is a 2003 . And so I'm going to use this also to open it . Um what happens to courts this , yeah , is an also okay a h dash s ?
Speaker 1o . Also it's a two-prong wine opener . Boomers will know this wine opener as just a general wine opener . That's super fucking cheap . Um , usually boomers have that in their house , which is cool , but they usually never have soup like aged wines in their home . So it's kind of funny . It actually makes it a lot harder to pull out the cork if it's not aged . So what happens ? The reason why I'm using this two-prong also is because over time , when the wine is touching the cork , the cork will start to crumble and you do not want that , unless you like cork particles in your wine . I'm not a fan of it personally . So you kind of shake this about as you're pushing down and then you grab it like so and then counterclockwise or clockwise , I don't care pull up and then , once it's up like this , grab the base , twist , pull up .
Speaker 2Beautiful .
Speaker 3Pull up or pull out or pull up .
Speaker 1Pull up or pull pull out or pull up . Pull up or pull out , I mean , I'd choose a pull out because a pull up insinuates something else .
Speaker 2You know what I mean .
Speaker 1I don't .
Speaker 2I don't .
Speaker 1A child ? Are you talking about a child ?
Speaker 3A pull up .
Speaker 1Like a diaper .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 2We don't have kids yet . I don't have kids For adults . We'd rather pull out than pull up . That is true .
Speaker 1I get it .
Speaker 3We're just not at that age , yet you said , be unhinged .
Speaker 1Absolutely be unhinged . That's enough , thank you . I don't know where you want me to stop . I'll just keep going until you tell me to stop ? Oh sorry , I'll just keep going until you tell me to stop .
Speaker 3Oh , I forgot . You can't read my mind . I know right , that's good .
Speaker 1Alright , 2003 . Bordeaux Okay , larissa is working on hers . She'll get some of this A little reductive on the nose . His knees open up Definitely .
Speaker 3Yeah , you want some .
Speaker 1All right .
Speaker 3You'll like it yeah .
Speaker 1Okay , all right , you'll like it . Yeah , okay , so it's in that stage where it's kind of going into more of a dried leaves cigar box , but it's not quite there yet . I feel like it's like , as ron bergeny would say , um leather bound books and rich mahogany rich mahogany rich mahogany yeah , there's definitely a lot of fennel character in there with the age um this I just cheers my own microphone there you go .
Speaker 3I know , yeah , I mean the color there we go .
Speaker 1The color is browning . Um , it's not super garnet right now , but I mean , I feel like this was a very concentrated , very inky , deep young wine when it was , when it was young , but 2003 it's legally able to drink oh , it's 21 baby it is of age , god .
Speaker 2That's crazy to think about 2003 .
Speaker 1What was going on in 2003 ?
Speaker 3um , let's see , I was I was in the third grade no , you weren't 2003 .
Speaker 1You're in the third grade when were you born ?
Speaker 22000 , 1993 , then yeah , okay , when were you born ? 90 I Me too .
Speaker 1Okay , thank God . There you go 90 .
Speaker 3See I know that because every Are you almost graduating ? Yeah , I graduated in 2012, . So all my grades went with the years .
Speaker 2That's really convenient .
Speaker 3Oh right , it was really convenient Okay .
Speaker 1Yeah , because the Chronic 2 , Dr Dre's 2001 came out with the next episode yeah it's the motherfucking D-O-double-G . Snoop Dogg yeah , that was , you know , the first time I listened to that album . I was , uh , rv camping here in chelan really yeah , with a bunch of family friends , like neighborhood friends . We all got like rv uh across from each other , with like the lawns in between , and so we'd all sleep out on the lawn in um like blow-up mattresses , which was a blast , and there's this dude , don Morris .
Speaker 1Yeah , don Morris . And there's this guy way , way older than me and I was looking through . Back in the day we had albums , we had a full album of CDs . We'd flip through and just pick one and I saw one with a bright neon green marijuana leaf on it . But at the time I was like , oh , it's just like a leaf , it was just like a maple tree .
Speaker 3Yeah , because I was so fucking young back in the day I was like oh , I'm so wait . Is that a maple ? It's a literal maple leaf , oh , okay because I was gonna people mistake it for yeah my leaf is down here . Yeah , there you go , there you go . Now I just put mine right here there you go um yeah .
Speaker 1So I was like , oh cool , let me listen to this . And I think I was probably 11 , 12 years old at the time and so I popped in a cd player , put in my headphones and I was like this shit is fire . Because at the time I was I started listening to tupac when I was like 10 years old and like eminem when I was like 11 . So pak was my first like um music other than like in sync right , yeah um , and that's when I started getting into hip-hop and I've been there ever since .
Speaker 1Um , but now I have a broader music taste than just hip-hop , but back in the day it was just hip hop music .
Speaker 3But yeah , it was the only way to go . It was .
Speaker 1It was . It was so far back then . It was amazing , Especially like when I was in middle school 50 Cent came out 50 . Got 50 .
Speaker 2Cent . There's no F in 50 . No 50 .
Speaker 150 . 50 Cent .
Speaker 2G-Unit 50 cent G unit . It was classic . Ja Rule Ashanti .
Speaker 1Come on now .
Speaker 3He had a .
Speaker 1Famous beef .
Speaker 3Can't even remember what the Like concert type was , but it was like If we went to Wow , I'm just like Hungover , we went to . Well , I'm just like hungover . It's like if we went to the Gorge for a music festival , but it was in Seattle Bumbershoot , not Bumbershoot , though , all right , I'll leave it alone . And 50 Cent was there and he had a fifth of Grey Goose and he popped that thing open like , took off the plastic wrap . So you saw that it was real and just fucking chugged it down and I was like but then I was also in high school , I was like yeah , but he has his own vodka .
Speaker 1Now he doesn't have to drink Grey Goose anymore . He's got his own vodka . Yeah Effin , he's got his own vodka .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Effin , that's 50 cents . Effin Vodka is 50s .
Speaker 2Oh my .
Speaker 1Yeah , dude's an entrepreneur . He's doing great .
Speaker 2I might be drinking Effin from now on . He has a media company .
Speaker 1Yeah , this is 50 . Okay .
Speaker 3What's his real name ?
Speaker 2Curtis Jackson 50 real name curtis jackson .
Speaker 1Curtis jackson , curtis jackson , yeah um , but yeah , he's , he's doing it , man that's awesome .
Speaker 3Good for him . Yeah , he bought um mike tyson's old home .
Speaker 1Because mike tyson had this uh period of time where he was in financial troubles and so he decided to sell his home . It was getting foreclosed on and then 50 was like I'm going to buy this for the low . So he bought it . It's a huge mansion , it's insane .
Speaker 3Damn .
Speaker 1Yeah , 50 is really good with financials , even though he went quote unquote bankrupt 50's team is really good at financials . Yeah , yeah , and 50's a really good entrepreneur .
Speaker 2He knows what he's doing , I'll agree with that .
Speaker 3He knows what he's doing Got more than 50 .
Speaker 1Yeah , Since Got 50, . You got Finley the dog here chewing the pig ear out here . How do you like this wine ?
Speaker 2I love it .
Speaker 1Now that it's opened up a little .
Speaker 2Yes , I love it . Now it's opened up a little . I love it , I do . You know I'm well , I was gonna say I'm not often drinking red wine middle of the afternoon . But who am I kidding ? I own a wine shop . Of course I am , that's literally part of our blood yes , it's part of the job .
Speaker 1Yeah , um and it's the perfect day for it .
Speaker 2We have have the best view . It's a little gloomy outside , yeah A little bit .
Speaker 1Okay , not too bad , though Not too bad .
Speaker 3A typical spring day . It is Do you taste that ? 3% 3% .
Speaker 1Petit Verdot , I can't .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1I kind of do . I kind of do . I mean it's more like a concentrated on the mid back palate yeah , um , okay .
Speaker 3So something that we didn't bring up on last episode was my top , your top five washington wineries . I must know and it was what eagle harbor , eagle eagle harbor , eagle Rock is an area out of LA . I think I also said Bainbridge Winery .
Speaker 1You said Bainbridge , you said Eagle Harbor , you said Cardis , I said Cardis , you said Upside Down .
Speaker 2No , I said Upside Down I know you did . Did you too ?
Speaker 1Because they're on my list too , was it ?
Speaker 2Lada .
Speaker 1It was Lada , I think I said upside down . No , I know you did .
Speaker 3But Did you too , because they're on my list too .
Speaker 1Was it Lotta , it was Lotta . I think I said Lotta , you said Lotta , and oh and Jane .
Speaker 2And Jane , yes , yeah .
Speaker 1That's yes , jane's dope . Do you know , jane ?
Speaker 3Yeah , okay , yeah jane , no , I don't , but they're like I know , but no one's name .
Speaker 1Yes , I'm I just needed to say , yeah , the winery , yes , I know the winery .
Speaker 2No , I don't know anyone named jane okay you don't know anyone named jane at all um should I ?
Speaker 1I don't know , it's a very I feel like it's a very common name no , I don't know jane .
Speaker 3I don't know if I know jane it's a typical white girl , we just proved you wrong .
Speaker 2Do you know a Jane ?
Speaker 1I know a few .
Speaker 2All right , jane Doe , we get those a lot .
Speaker 3See , you know .
Speaker 1Jane Doe , john Doe , all the time .
Speaker 2Yeah , murder podcast .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2You like murder podcast ? Oh , it's all I listen to .
Speaker 1Man my girlfriend .
Speaker 2Every documentary you watch .
Speaker 1Yeah , most documentaries there's a murder one I mean . So we started . What else is there ?
Speaker 3to watch . There's so many things you can watch , so many things she's just like hinting at you . Like you better watch out . I know all the ways now .
TV Preferences and Pop Culture Chatter
Speaker 1I'm the kind of person that likes . When I pick something to watch , I just want to relax , so it's either something interesting like a psychological thriller , that's like that will make my mind work , but most of the time , most of the time , it's like stand-up comedy or something easy like new girl or like brooklyn 99 , something like they just gotta comedy , or something easy like New Girl or like Brooklyn Nine-Nine , something like that .
Speaker 1They just like throw on and just like whatever . But if I'm really in a mood usually like weekends , weekends especially in the morning , if I'm not doing much in the morning , which is rare , but I'll put on something a little bit more crazy . But , yeah my life is already stressful enough as it is . I don't need any murders going on but , we did . I did watch the new oj documentary , which was really interesting , and my girlfriend ally didn't really have a background .
Speaker 3That much on oj and I've been wanting to watch it and so we were , but so it's that documentary is very slow .
Speaker 1It's a docu-series so it's very slow .
Speaker 1So the first episode's all about how great oj was , how amazing he was , and this is they're trying to build up the fall from grace . Okay , right , um , and so they're building up his celebrity , how everyone loved him , the records he broke , the records he still holds even though he died , um , like a couple weeks ago , like last week , I think maybe . Yeah , at this point , yeah , at this recording , um , and then so it was a it's , it's a very slow going docu-series , and ali was like , okay , let's get to the murders . Yeah , let's get to the murder . I want to know what's going on . Let's get to the murders . I totally understand we don't have , because each episode is like an hour long and so we don't have . This was like yesterday . We don't have like four hours of our day to dedicate to OJ . Right now . Let's get to the murders .
Speaker 2It was fun , though . I saw a funny meme the other day about OJ . You know how , like when you know the golden girl , carol , someone died oh , carol Burnett Baskins just kidding killed her husband Wacken remember that one anyways , one of the golden girls died and it's like who's next ? There was that meme of like not the Golden Girls , and then I saw the meme of like OJ Simpson who's next , casey Anthony ? Who's next ? Casey Anthony , like willing it to happen . Yeah , I thought it was funny .
Speaker 1Betty White's still thriving who ?
Speaker 2Betty White . Betty White , that's who . It was funny . Betty white's still thriving who betty white ? Betty white that's who I thought died betty white's still thriving .
Speaker 1As far as I know , she's actually been alive longer than sliced bread has been , I think , betty white yeah , I'm pretty sure I don't think so she died she's done my bad's what . I was saying the golden girl who died .
Speaker 2That was Betty White .
Speaker 3Yeah , carol Burnett , I don't know I don't even know who that is .
Speaker 2I don't know why it came to mind , but it's definitely Betty .
Speaker 1White , it's definitely Betty White .
Speaker 3Right , larissa , I know what you mean .
Speaker 1She's dead . 99 .
Speaker 3Hey , she , she's been alive longer than sliced bread has been a thing . Yeah , yeah , everyone says since before sliced bread .
Speaker 1She's literally before sliced bread . Golden Girl's death in order . Oh , golden Girl's death in order . Let's go . No it's too boring .
Speaker 3It's too boring , it is shit Go down the list .
Speaker 1Body dementia .
Speaker 3Done , done , gone End of an era Unknown .
Speaker 1That sounds like a murder documentary .
Speaker 2I never watched the show , yeah .
Speaker 1I've watched it a couple times . I mean , I grew up on like afternoon television . I can see your mother watching it no , she didn't really watch it , she watched friends well she watched the news , which is terrible . That's the main thing that was on . But when she put something on that was like just for entertainment , it was friends , and I was never a friends person .
Speaker 2I wasn't either did we all three just say that at the same time ?
Speaker 3I thought , it was boring too . I get it now .
Speaker 1I grew up on like the Cosby Show , unfortunately , family .
Speaker 2Matters .
Speaker 1Yeah , family Matters . Fresh Prince of Bel-Air .
Speaker 3Oh yes , and Seinfeld , that's a full house , yeah , full house .
Speaker 1Frasier . I never watched . Frasier was boring to me . Well , that's what my parents watched , Even though I grew up in Seattle , lived there and Frasier was based in Seattle , apparently it was . And I was still like Frasier's more , Because when I was a kid , Frasier was more for adult entertainment .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Kind of like will and grace . Yeah , the same kind of thing , but I was more , I was a kid so I watched you know , fresh prince bella was most of it and then after I got out of school and then on tbs . It was like two episodes of fresh prince , two episodes seinfeld back to back , and so that's just what I watched yeah , yeah and so you know , I grew up just wanting to be will smith um yeah , now even more mixed feelings .
Speaker 1Mixed feelings I wouldn't want to be in his situation maritally . Yeah , that sucks . That's a terrible marriage . Get out of that one , um , never in my life . Um , I was , I was close to that and I just kind of went , no , no .
Speaker 3I've seen this before . I've seen this before .
Speaker 1I've seen this before . Right when he slapped Chris rock , I was like no , let's get out of it . Um but um , but um , I do respect him , uh , so a lot will . Smith . I think he has a great mindset and his his more kind of like matured um advice is very interesting . Like his mental health advice is really cool . I think because he has to , you know , he has to have a good mental health program to really cope with this marriage . So are we making jada ?
Speaker 2the problem ?
Speaker 1is jada the problem or is it will oh , jada's a problem , is she , she's a problem okay , no , I'm totally being , I just don't know all fucked up in the head . Okay it's . It's a lot of ego , there's a lot of insecurity because she's alopecia , right . So that's why she had to , uh , shave her , her head , which , coincidentally , tupac also had alopecia . He had to shave his head , and jada and pock were friends as kids in baltimore when he went to baltimore school of the arts you know , with jada weird stuff like this yeah , yeah , I'm a huge pock person hip-hop nerd in general .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm a hip-hop nerd , okay , for sure .
Speaker 1So yeah , when you know a new album comes out , I listen to the whole album like three times . I just dissect the lyrics , depending on who it is so do we but for a different artist who's ?
Speaker 3the artist the artist taylor swift , of course um , I was actually listening to her album the other day and then , like , going through the lyrics , which I really I'm not really generally , that person and my boyfriend looks at me and he's like are you , are you a swifty ? And I was like I don't know if I'd call myself a swifty and I'm like , oh , but her and travis kelsey , but they are so cute , they are .
Speaker 1I love Travis Kelsey .
Speaker 3I do too yeah the whole thing's great and I was like thinking about it . I was like I feel like I actually do follow her more than most .
Speaker 2I guess yeah , you can admit it .
Speaker 3It's a safe space . No no , it's fine . Yeah , I'm here for it .
Speaker 1This is a safe no . No , it's fine .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm here for it um , but yeah , I kind of had the realization of like , yeah , I guess , I guess I am a swifty yeah yeah , I mean my girlfriend .
Speaker 1She said she's not a swifty , but she was bumping when I got here I think I heard t swift up there . I think low key , she is a Swiftie . Yeah , that's true , you can but you know she was dissecting one of the songs , which is a cool song .
Speaker 2Which one ?
Speaker 1Thank you , Amy . It's a big fuck you to Kim Kardashian .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And so I was . I was looking at the lyrics because I'm a lyrical dude , so I look up all the lyrics . I was like , okay , I want to see all the shade thrown at kim k . Yes , not a k kim fan . Personally , I don't really care , yeah , about that family . I think they do a really great job managing their careers in marketing . Um , chris jenner doing a great job yeah , great job um for their personal careers , which is great .
Speaker 3But I'm also . They're a pile of fucking trash .
Speaker 1Yeah exactly . Yeah , I don't think you can lump them all into one . I like Kendall . Yes , she can be in there too . I like some of them individually better than others .
Speaker 3Yes , I agree with that .
Speaker 1Courtney Kendall I like them . Yes , I've had to . Yes , I agree with that , courtney Kendall , I like them .
Speaker 1Yes , if I had to pick a few out . Yeah , big fans , um , but anyways , uh , yeah it was , it was really interesting , and so I was just kind of dissecting those lyrics when , like two days ago , two nights ago , when she was , she brought it up and so I was like , all right , some shade , I'm not like a swifty . I personally , uh , creatively , am not a fan just because of her . This is going to rub people the wrong way , which is fine for me , but this is my personal opinion . Uh , she's very formulaic and everything she does musically yeah , that's fine and it's not super creative and it's becoming more redundant .
Speaker 1And there's the same , it's the same song structure every time . It's the same chords every time . Yeah and um . She also is not that creative as far as subject matter , because always the same kind of like .
Speaker 2Pity me sort of thing . I don't I . I disagree with that that's fine . I love disagreements that's okay , that's totally okay yeah , but that's just my opinion .
Speaker 1That's fair , but I also . But I will say this she is insanely great entertainer yeah and I think she's a very smart business woman yes
Speaker 1the way she recorded all of her so she can own her own masters . Get out of that deal yeah great , great , fucking idea . I mean , I don't think a lot of and her , her effort . She has great um , she's a very hard-working person yeah and so I I respect that , I respect , I respect her in lot of ways , but I also just don't like her in a lot of ways as far as creatively . But that's just me . But I think she's an awesome entertainer , though , and she does a great job .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1You know , like the fact I watched the heiress tour . Like I watched , I'm involved .
Speaker 1And so I watched the heiress tour and I respected the hell out of it and the fact that she went back to do an unplugged acoustic version of like her older stuff , Cause that's what I was exposed to early on was her older albums and I loved those songs . Um , it's just when she became a little more pop I was like turned off a little bit , but then I came back around to certain songs because I realized that she writes and co-writes all of her own music yeah um , and she doesn't have anyone that just like writes a song for her to sing right and so it's .
Speaker 1That's respectful too . So , yeah , that's just my personal take on t swizzy , but I think she's cool , you know . Yeah , she's dope . I I love . I don't um envy the success at all , like she is doing an amazing job . Wind's blowing out there , um , she's doing an amazing job and I'm glad that she has the success that she has yeah and she has an awesome fan base .
Speaker 3Yeah , and now she's got the NFL fan base too .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2I hope she just buys the NFL just because she can .
Speaker 3Buys the .
Speaker 1NFL , the whole NFL Out . Of spite .
Speaker 2That would be amazing .
Speaker 1I'm sure her and Travis Kelsey will be the commissioner Travis will be the commissioner .
Speaker 3Take over the world , yeah .
Speaker 2In Travis , we trust .
Speaker 3Yes .
Speaker 2In Trailer we trust . Yes , in trailer we trust and trailer oh my gosh , that's crazy .
Speaker 1I will say the a lot of the black community was bombed because travis has um historically dated mostly black women . Yeah , so a lot of the black women community was a little upset with that .
Speaker 3But it's not T-Swift . Nobody can be T-Swift , but T-Swift . Facts , that's a fact yeah , so what's going on at the wine shop ? Let's get back into the wine life .
Speaker 1Yeah , out of pop culture .
Speaker 3Let's get back into the wine life , All right so what do you have looking forward to this
Shop Expansion and Wine Trends
Speaker 3summer ?
Speaker 2and stuff um , okay , my producer in the background my producer in the background is like say this okay oh , okay , that's cool . Oh , there was a it depends on the day . Um okay , so we have a lot coming up at the shop .
Speaker 3A lot of really fun wine . Think of like a month out from now when this actually gets released .
Speaker 2Okay , so it's late April , so late May .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2We have Neratif in June coming for a pouring . We have Watermill coming for a pouring . We are trying to schedule Cardus for a pouring . We're Watermill coming for a pouring . We are trying to schedule Curtis for a pouring . We're looking for a date for them to come out . We have Denise Eisenhower coming out for a pouring . We're hosting a couple of events with other local businesses . Gals Need Pals is hosting a wine tasting event at our shop . Summer's kind of a tricky time . Everything is like new for us so we don't have any data to go on . Okay , yeah , you know . So we have no trends to follow quite yet . Um , with our own clientele . So I'm I'm kind of I'm front loading all of our tastings for summer in terms of wineries coming in and winemakers being there to do in-house tastings . What else do we have ? Yep , the back of the shop is opening , so we have 1500 square feet in our shop , but my husband built a wall to cut it in half so we could just focus on retail right now yeah pg-13 in the back .
Speaker 2so we're we're starting to renovate the back , so one fuck two shits . Yes .
Speaker 1Yes and one ass All day .
Speaker 3How many asses ?
Speaker 1And no fucks , One fuck right .
Speaker 2Well , maybe all the fucks . So the back will be very moody . So we're starting the design process for the back right now . Religiously neutral . Religiously neutral yes , it'll be a little bit of like prohibition vibes .
Speaker 1we want it to be cavernous , we want it to be library-esque , we want it to be speakeasy type yeah , a little bit yeah , so that's dope , so would that be more like a wine bar back there not ?
Speaker 2necessarily , so we also have a whole back patio as well , that we're gonna fence in and we're gonna pour a little bit more cement back there and create a really cute little patio space . The majority of the feedback we've gotten is people want glass pours , people want bottle service . That's not the way we intended to serve the community with the shop , but we're open to that feedback and so what I'm telling people is that's probably where we're trending , but I'm not rushing into it .
Speaker 2So , our lease is for five years . We have plenty of time to switch the liquor license to get those spaces ready to be able to expand our services in that way . But with the expansion of services it means expansion of staff , it means expansion of hours , it means expansion of XYZ yeah . So I'm just not going to rush into that . But to Larissa's point yes , um , we have . Yeah , the backspace will be really cool . It's going to mainly be used for over event , overflow , our club space , um , for club parties , private parties , It'll be nice .
Speaker 1Yeah , what's a velvet glass pour ? You will find out when you arrive . Okay , I'll find out when I arrive .
Speaker 2You'll find out when you arrive . Oh , there you go .
Speaker 1She's your PR person ? Yeah , she is . I'm like my producer in the back Designer producer .
Speaker 3PR . Tell me what to say . Okay that too .
Speaker 2So we have a lot of fun at the shop . We , when the shop is closed , we lock the doors . We do what the fuck we want . We draw the blinds and we do what we want .
Speaker 3That's cool .
Speaker 2We did have these really lovely steel poles , multiple of them . We know they're under the wood and we can take apart the wood to get to the poles , but my husband encased them in wood . They don't rotate , but we rotate . So my husband did most of the handiwork . I mean , we had friends and family helping us throughout the whole process . Larissa built the shelf . Yes , yes , I keep wanting to call you eric .
Speaker 2My god , you are one in the same yes , okay um , so he built the bars too , which was really cool . We have these two seven foot long bars and then there's like enough space for me to like go sideways and squeeze in between , so maybe like a foot and a half or something yeah , so he didn't construct the bars to hold as much people as you're getting correct as much wine as we're getting . So what we do to ensure the safety of those um pieces that he built is we get bitches on the bars after hours and we dance there , you , you go Just to test the structure .
Speaker 1Structural integrity is really important .
Speaker 2Structural integrity , exactly . And he's like , please don't . And we're like you can't stop us . What did you expect , eric ? And he's like I didn't build these for this reason , and we're like what did you expect , Eric ?
Speaker 3You built a bar .
Speaker 2We're getting on it . Yeah , bar we're getting on it , yeah , exactly he's gonna hold a person .
Speaker 1It could hold . The wine holds multiple people .
Speaker 3You can dodge a wrench , you can dodge a ball . Yeah , um , how many wines do you have currently in the shop ?
Speaker 2I think we probably have 70 , close to 70 , somewhere between 60 and 70 wines . There's some overlap . So , um , I know I have two bottles from two different wines from two vintners , so there is overlap in that regard . But yeah , we have at least 60 to 70 different varieties . I haven't counted recently Curated yeah .
Speaker 1What are your favorite varieties that you have ?
Speaker 2Oh , my favorite varieties . Well , I'm obsessed with the two vintners Very Necessary . Yes , I'm really into Chillable Reds . You know it's a seasonal .
Speaker 1I feel like I'm here for it , have we ?
Speaker 2talked about this Chillable Reds . Chillable Reds .
Speaker 1Yeah , the Sonder episode that they had a co-ferment of Grenache and Pic-Po-Blanc , ferment of , uh , grenache , yeah , and piccoult blanc you can even chill his field blend .
Speaker 2That was fire . Yeah , I did in the first episode . But yeah , sage rat again . Yes , it's the sage rat . Pet , not rouge yeah put a bottle in me , like put it in me , that's how much I love it really yeah , I love it little ivy . It's not even a cork , it's a bottle top . Remember , I know yeah .
Speaker 1It's a crown cap . Yeah , is it ?
Speaker 2Petnat yeah , petnat Rouge , yeah . So I'm really into Chilla Bowl Reds right now . I'm also okay . I was on Red Mountain last weekend and two cannon wine . They have a white move , ed . Really that doesn't inspire you . I don't know what does . So that really like yes , it like breathes some life back into me , because I have everything it was like an earth because typical some for the shop yeah .
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Typical move . That is pretty earthy . There's some brambly characteristics . Does it , does the white ? Okay , yeah , I was going to say Typical Movet is pretty earthy , there's some brambly characteristics .
Speaker 2Does the white version of that kind of come out ? It has some of the same structure , but it's almost like it resembles more of like a soft blanc in a way , huh , or like a really I don't want to say creamy , because there's no like textural creaminess .
Speaker 1There's no like malolactic no .
Speaker 2But it's definitely a winter white . So like when I say winter white , it's a heavier body .
Speaker 3Oh , okay .
Speaker 2Yeah , so it's a heavier body , white kind of what we're talking with , like Roussan Marsan .
Speaker 1Is there oak aged or ?
Speaker 2You know , I don't know , to be honest . I just like took a sip and I was like that's the wine I'm bringing home .
Speaker 1That's interesting . Yeah , that's crazy .
Speaker 2And I did ask questions at the time , but I can't tell you that I remember the answers because it was a long day of wine tasting right that day .
Speaker 2But , um , that really inspired me because I kind of feel like I have so many incredible wines available to me . I order them one day and they're in my shop the next day , but I always know they're there . You know what I mean through distribution . And so , um , I kind of need like that life breathed into me , which is why I still make the point to be doing all the spring trips , of fall trips , trips in between , and speaking of trips , so you said you were at red mountain last week .
Speaker 3Yes , here this week . And then this week , while a while the next week . So how often are you traveling to stock and are you actually bringing things ?
Speaker 2home all the time . Yeah , so that is the purpose of any trip I take ? I don't necessarily . I have a rough idea of how much I would like to bring home for inventory .
Speaker 1But if it doesn't happen .
Speaker 2It doesn't happen . I'm not going to buy something for the sake of buying it .
Speaker 2Right , I have to feel inspired by it , I have to feel connected to it . There has to be some sort of connection made with the winery , the winemaker , the winemaking style for me to be able to bring it home and and stock it . So I always do the spring trips , so Prosser , red Mountain , um Chelan and Manson this weekend , and then Walla , walla next , and then so for fall I'll probably put Yakima and you normally just do one night , no , I normally do two and then so for fall I'll probably put Yakima .
Speaker 3And you normally just do one night .
Speaker 2No , I normally do two . I was going to say , yeah , we normally do two nights . We'll talk about our itinerary tomorrow because we don't necessarily need to rush home , and at this point I'm thinking like we have a lot of ground to cover tomorrow . I'm getting the head nod in the background . Yes , so it's usually two nights . It's just with . My husband usually travels Monday through Wednesday or Thursday and so typically he's at the airport by 3.30 am on Monday morning , so I need to be home in order to get the kids . But we're just trying to piece it together to be able to make everything work . So Walla Walla next week will be two nights and I think we have 12 on the itinerary . I know it's a lot Good luck to you .
Speaker 2We split and we split when needed . Not this year . Okay yeah , she did Walla Walla last year , so I'd say I'm probably making what averages to be a trip a month .
Speaker 3Yeah , are you going to the West ?
Speaker 2side at all . I try not to . I try not to simply because it's not really fair to say , but I lived on the west side for several years and I just have such a negative connotation with being over there that I don't want to go .
Speaker 3It's not like they're not getting the grapes from the side anyways .
Speaker 2Exactly , and I have a lot of those wineries through distribution available to me . That doesn't mean I don't want to visit them in person and like experience the space , see the space .
Speaker 3But I'm not necessarily as compelled to visit the west side as I am okay , and so when you go to say , well , when you're here , yeah , are you going to different wineries that you've never been to , or are you kind of revisiting a couple as well ?
Speaker 2Yeah , that's a good question . So I'm really trying to find that balance , because I have like tried and true favorites that I really want to visit when I go to certain places Totally . For instance , I'll never not visit Smokey Rose and Walla Walla or Tyrannus and Prosser or whatever right , but the goal is to expand my own repertoire and palette . So I have to be visiting new places in order to continue to learn and not just stock the same things over and over , because I don't want people to walk into the shop and be like I've seen this before , yeah , why would I keep coming back if it's going to be the same stuff ? So , um , this trip , specifically like we're doing a few restocks , like we're restocking the Karma cans , the French kiss cans , because those are a crowd favorite at the shop and so we're definitely getting those . We're picking up club wines and then we are visiting new wineries . So we already had a tasting at LaGoria .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2Did I say it right , lagoria LaGoria ?
Speaker 3Yeah , already had a tasting at lagoria yeah , did I say it right lagria , lagria , yeah , yeah , oh , I added an extra accent lagoria , lagria .
Speaker 2Yes , and farms yes , yeah , they were lovely , great experience . They're really nice yeah yeah and um , we're gonna hit navar cou . Okay , I don't know that we'll have time for Tildeo , and that's okay if we don't . Yeah , so this trip in particular isn't , as planned to the minute , like micromanaged as I typically plan . Yeah , we took up most of your time .
Speaker 3I'm sorry .
Speaker 2No , don't be sorry , because we have all day tomorrow , cool . We have all day tomorrow , cool . We have all day tomorrow , cool . So I just didn't like over plan this one , like I typically would . Like we were down to the minute last weekend . I'll be down to the minute next weekend , yeah , yeah so .
Speaker 3Fun .
Speaker 1That's great .
Speaker 2Lots of long winded answers from me .
Speaker 3Yeah , no I love that . No , you're great , no , that's what we love yeah , we like to listen to , to what you guys have going on you know , any guests that we have on , so thanks for coming on .
Speaker 1Yeah , thank you for having me , we appreciate it
Speaker 2it was so fun . Yes , I'm so glad you reached out . When you did . I was like me . You want me . Yes of out when you did .
Speaker 3I was like me you want me ?
Speaker 2yes , I was like .
Speaker 3I'm so honored but it's a great way to promote yourself and your business .
Speaker 2I mean , that's the whole reason .
Speaker 3We're here to support this whole industry , no matter what position or what you're doing . That is what we're doing . Yeah , like we want to hear if you're just a tasting room associate or you opened a wine shop or you work at a restaurant Like we like hearing all of that , because that all brings the wine industry together .
Speaker 2It does , and what I have to say about that is that I've felt no competition or judgment at all since being in the industry . I've felt nothing but support and honestly , that's a little surprising . You know , yeah , just by human nature and societally that's not necessarily what I expected , but it's truly what I wine industry is very that people like helping each other in the wine industry which is I think , a big reason on why I love it so much as well
Mindset of Abundance Versus Scarcity
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Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I mean , I say this all the time but , like you , either have a mindset of scarcity or mindset of abundance .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And , depending on that , you're going to support people or you're going to be jealous and talk shit about people .
Speaker 2Right , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1That's all . That's all it is .
Speaker 2And there's enough to go around , like there's enough to go around . There's no such thing as scarcity . There's enough to go around .
Speaker 3Exactly . We're all here to do the same thing Just live life and make the best of it . Yep .
Speaker 1Thanks for coming on . Thanks , guys , yeah .
Speaker 3Cheers , cheers .
Speaker 1Cheers Go to the Tipsy Vine . Join the wine club , you won't regret it . Love you guys .
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