Bung Pod!
Based in Washington State, Bung Pod is a wine podcast fusing comedic and unfiltered, unapologetic conversation with the passion of wine and unruly hot takes. Hosted by Ian King and Jas Shattuck with interviews by special guests within the wine community. Whether you are ready to learn something new about wine and grow your knowledge, or you are just here to have a good time, this podcast is for you!
Bung Pod!
BONUS: Brady Douglas talks The Battle of Icons: Drake vs. Taylor Swift & SABRINA CARPENTER!
Will Sabrina Carpenter take Taylor Swift's Crown??
On this episode of the Bung Pod, we’re thrilled to have Brady Douglas from Beer League Golf joining us to spill the secrets of his newfound fame. From tasting a 2001 Shingleback Shiraz to the elegance of Grand Cru Bordeaux from the '90s, we explore the lush world of aged wines and barrel bungs. Plus, we chat about the rise of canned wines for those laid-back gatherings and celebrate the unique flavors of Australian wines alongside Washington and Oregon varietals.
Remember when "Wonderwall" was the unofficial anthem of every party, and that one guy couldn’t resist strumming it on his guitar? We sure do. Grab some nostalgia as we share our personal stories—like how country tunes from Jason Isbell and Tyler Childers set the romantic scene for a serenade. We also reminisce about our screamo band days, influenced by Underoath and other heavy-hitters, and even uncover a local chef’s surprising ties to the Washington wine scene, blending our love for food and music.
The ultimate musical debate takes center stage as we passionately argue over who reigns supreme, Drake or Taylor Swift. From Drake’s quest to outshine Michael Jackson to Taylor's jaw-dropping ability to sell out stadiums, we dive deep into their iconic careers. We share our concert experiences on Sunset Boulevard, rubbing elbows with Trippie Redd and exploring legendary recording studios. Whether you’re Team Drake or Team Taylor, this episode promises a spirited discussion and a trip down memory lane you won't want to miss!
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Bung pod. Welcome back Wine Wonderboy. And we got Jazzy J Jazzy. What is a bung? The hole of the barrel is called a bung hole. Inside the bung hole is called a bung Wine with mayhem. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say obviously, well, I mean, I have them here and there with people, but that's not what you get in wine memberships. That's not what you get.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:There's not a lot of 2001s at the Safeway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'd be suspicious of all those wines. There's not a lot of them, man. Welcome back jabronis bungpa jabronis. Thank you so much for supporting our podcast. We love you. We got Brady Douglas in the building representing Beard League and he's also a wine lover as well. If you didn't watch the last episode, go watch that on Spotify or YouTube, apple Music, wherever you get it, you guys know the drill, let's go. Yeah, we were just talking about beer league um and yeah, we got questions for you on this one, yeah, you got some questions.
Speaker 2:You know we're both in the uh the. We're both recently budding instagram social media stars now so yeah you know, getting our thousands of followers doing this, and we were kind of off air for a second talking about getting free stuff and like how you build this social media business. Yeah, so you've acquired a handful of free things. Yes, what was your approach doing this? Have people reached out to you directly? Are you reaching out to people?
Speaker 1:um, I have not been reaching out to anybody. Uh, everything that we've got has been given to us because they want us to have it. Uh, which is super interesting. I never thought that would be a thing for us, um, but I guess that's happening, which is kind of cool, like the shingle back Shiraz, a little, uh, bts for you guys. For the jabronis Um, I was given two cases of some older wines and those will be showing their faces on the podcast every now and then. Um, this is a mclarenville shiraz, 2001. Also, I was given some grand crew right bank, um, 1997 and 1994 bordos, which is very fun. Yeah, um, yeah, so those will be making an appearance on the podcast at some point. Um, yeah, I'm very excited to try those and see how they're doing. Uh, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2:This is kind of cool to get to do this and, uh, I mean, a shingle box is good, it is. It's different. I mean I don't. I've never had a 2001 Shiraz. I've never had very few. Shiraz I've never had very few Shiraz in my life. Probably not huge in Washington Right.
Speaker 1:I mean there. I mean there's a lot of Shiraz's that are um, that are volume, more volume wines that you can find you know, yeah, but the local wineries, like Chelan, doesn't do much of them, do they no? Yeah, I mean, you can find some Shiraz, probably in Safeway.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, yeah, I mean you can find some Shiraz probably in Safeway, but yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I see, I mean Safeway is my go-to for like some Cab Sauv and some Sauv Blanc. Yeah, if I'm like, when I'm thinking of other wines, it's what we have in Washington or Oregon on the west coast kind of thing that's yeah, oh that, so you'll go more local.
Speaker 1:You do that that, yeah, I mean, yeah, Aussie stuff is really good, honestly, Like it's very underrated, I think for the most part. But yeah, I was given two cases of some old wines. There's some really old Washington wines there too that we have.
Speaker 1:So we have some 2001,. Maybe some 1990-ish stuff that's also from the Columbia Valley. That's really interesting. That will make an appearance on the pod at some point. But yeah, I've been also. I was just shipped two cases, well, two packs, I would say Two packs Shakur of these. So there's this company in California called Los Cuernos. They are a canned wine company and they sent us two packs and also a couple other cans. Do you know how much canned?
Speaker 2:wine I drink.
Speaker 1:So you drink a lot of canned wines.
Speaker 2:A whole.
Speaker 1:You should have brought one of them over here I thought about it, I thought about it.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a weird fact you wouldn't be like brady douglas of beerly golf pounds canned wines they're that's like one of my favorite things no, I think canned wines are dope, like I think it's so cool to see wine and different um and different bottlings or different you know um vessels, if you will, that are more accessible and easier to open, you know and you think of like when, like the, can you know if you're going to a barbecue, you're going to like a beach party, that kind of thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's always just cans of beer you pour into a soul cup. If you're the one bringing out a bottle of wine, it just looks a little more suspicious too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I'm definitely the one doing that.
Speaker 2:Well, obviously I mean, but I'm like I understand the market for this of like, canned, canned cocktails, canned wine, and you can just grab a few at the store and it just all looks the same. Yeah and the like. Nobody cares. Yeah, You're not. You know you don't want to be the pretentious at the bonfire and bringing out your acoustic guitar to like, sing some Oasis.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's probably what I would do Songs of Oasis. Cause they are the bane of my existence. Uh, sorry for everyone that loves Oasis. They're very popular but I hate them. When I bring up my, my guitar it's more kind of like you know country, some like folk, like older folk of. Like you know country, some like folk like older folk, stuff, you know. See, I respect that. I got like luminaire so I'll play that.
Speaker 2:That's fair I just grew up in the era of the guys gonna play wonder same wonderwall. Yeah, you know what. That is like nails on chalkboard for me.
Speaker 1:I was like someone's playing fucking wonderwall. That's my merlot for sideways going back to the song that's like I'm as anyone's playing fucking. If anyone's playing fucking wonderwall, I'm leaving. I'm not gonna stay for it.
Speaker 2:Hey, I think that's fair. I mean, I think, for like our, our generation, that's like an entire personality of a guy that existed was his campfire. Yeah, yeah, bring out the acoustic guitar on it not invited to play, but he'd be like, hey, I got my guitar with me and it's wonderful it was wonderful, of course.
Speaker 1:I did uh serenade my, my girlfriend, the first time that we were like really hanging out you know, yeah, the guitar and with wonderwall, no, absolutely fucking not. No, it was like country stuff that she loves, okay, you know, and stuff that I like too. It was something like morgan wallen, it was, uh, jason isbell, uh, some zach bryan tyler, childers kind of stuff yeah, so you can actually play the guitar I, I will.
Speaker 1:I will not say that I actually can play the guitar like that, but I know a few chords enough to know those songs yeah, okay, I guess maybe that's, I mean that sounds more impressive, I know, like the regular chords.
Speaker 2:You know those ones. So the only time in high school I took guitar class for two years, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I serenaded one girl one time, and it was with Kiss Me by Sixpence and the Richer.
Speaker 2:Which is truly dating myself as a human being.
Speaker 1:Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly, which is truly dating myself as a human being. Kiss me that song, yeah Exactly. You remember the lyrics as precisely as I do. Could do it then, couldn't do it now.
Speaker 2:Also, I think it's three chords that you know and you could do this. Yeah, I probably could, Actually, let's go get the guitar, let's go yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just breaking it out right now It'd be sick. Oh my God, out right now, it'd be sick. Oh my god, that's so funny. Like yeah, I don't know guitar that much. My dad, he plays all around chalan, like different wineries and like places. Like he plays at tipsy canyon all the time he plays at alta and um, twisted cork and whatnot, and like he's a. He's a musician. Like he's been in bands and stuff. Like I was in a screamo band and in high school and I was playing the bass because that was my instrument at the time and I was singing because my voice is really my. I could sing decently well. Um, so I was like the clean vocals. I wasn't screaming but I was like the you know the nice.
Speaker 2:What degree of screamo like on man from screamo emo. Obviously the less screamo would be like dashboard confessional Sure, going like the used taking back Sunday. Like, where would you place yourself between those three?
Speaker 1:more screamo than any of those Probably more screamo than taking back Sunday.
Speaker 2:Cause we had a guy. I guess I did that wrong. It would be dashboard taking back Sunday.
Speaker 1:The used Right, yeah, yeah. So it would be like I don't know, we were kind of going for like an under oath vibe. Okay, I would say under oath or like those emo.
Speaker 2:You know, like there was a lot of screaming Like you're so screamo that you're getting off my charts of mainstream screamo. Exactly, okay, perfect. My charts of mainstream scream out.
Speaker 1:Exactly, okay, perfect, yeah, yeah, so I'll be the clean vocals. We call it clean vocals because I'm not screaming, because I didn't know how to do it. But we had a guy his whole job was to be the screamer and that was Spencer, who was the lead screamer, singer, whatever of Under Oath, and then their drummer, aaron Gillespie. He would also sing, so he would play the drums and sing at the same time. But he was like angel voice, this guy. Okay, it was amazing, his voice is so good. And then he later went on to do his own band called the almost, and they were less, less screamy, okay, than under oath, for sure, but yeah I, I do.
Speaker 2:I would love to see a documentary on where the screamers from scream scream of hands up bands now, wow, do you know?
Speaker 1:Under oath is still going strong, Like they have such a big.
Speaker 2:I know still exists, but like not the same drummer anymore I don't think, but yeah all the other ones funny.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, cause it's Patreon, I'll say this Um, because you guys, I give you guys inside scoops on things for a reason, cause you pay for this and I love you. So the chef at Sorrel, where, um, I am entangled with, like, I love them, they're amazing. He's really. Uh, the chef is really involved with the Washington wine commission, knows a lot of winemakers. He does taste Washington, does all the big stuff Like. He has a big name around the state, uh, for, for culinary and also for wine because of his wine adjacent Ness, if you will. Um, he his first career. He was at a decently successful, uh, scrimmo band. He was the drummer wait, so he's.
Speaker 2:So he's got to be like in his 30s, early 40s, like he's in his early 40s. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, he's like 43 or something, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So they were like doing all these contests they were shipped off, uh, to us army bases around the world to play um.
Speaker 1:They were like I think it was like an mtv contest to like was the us military, like the number one subscriber, to scream out like the us military like that he loved doing, like so many artists would love doing us military stuff, because they would play for your pay, for your plane ticket. You know, quote unquote because they're using their own planes to take you there, so they're not really paying anything. They're paying gas at that point. Well, we're paying gas.
Speaker 2:We're paying gas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're paying gas. And then they'd get you like. The accommodations were great, they'd feed you the whole time that you're there. You'd play a dope-ass rock show. Everyone would love you because they haven't seen a soul in a long time. And so any music, any live entertainment, soldiers are stoked you know anyone that works for the military on those bases.
Speaker 2:They're stoked to see anyone isn't that the basis of captain america? Yeah, probably doesn't.
Speaker 1:He start as he's performing at performing. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:I think of the three marvel movies I've seen. That's like what I remember. So the chef at sorrel, chef aaron he could have been he could have been captain america lost your chance, aaron jeez, come on, man uh, you know, you know, but then chris evans needed to do something for work yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, um, but yeah so that those were his favorite events to play. It was us military stuff, because they'd pay for like everything and they'd pay you x amount and so they'd take care of everything and you're like sick like no other venue does this ever, so it's like it's dope yeah so he was. He was a drummer in a screamo band that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah screamo, emo kind of band yeah along the lines of taking back sunday that which yeah, I mean taking back sunday shaped my youth to an extent.
Speaker 2:You know they were. They were in the top probably five bands, so obviously blink 182 was up there. We had bad music taste as kids. You know that's how it works. Blink is dope. Their new album, though I have not. I feel like I got convinced in my early 20 that if you liked Blink-182, you had bad music taste. Oh, that's a bummer. I'm not. Do I have to get back into it? You got to get back into it. Is it still the same band or like?
Speaker 2:it's still the same band, if you go see the Beach Boys, and they're it's a different guys playing the same songs. My glove's still there. Um, yeah, I know I, they're not that old. Yeah, they're not that old, yeah yeah, they're in their 40s.
Speaker 1:Uh, blink-182 is probably in their early 40s by now. Yeah, like they're still playing together okay of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tom and travis, they just came out with a new album, like year. I am blown away by this.
Speaker 1:I don't know Is there new, is there first album and I don't know, 10 years or something like that.
Speaker 2:Somehow this wasn't advertised to me on Taylor Swift radio.
Speaker 1:Oh, why not? That's the same demographic?
Speaker 2:You would think so. All these tweens? Yeah, I learned of them when I was a tween.
Speaker 1:These new tweens need to be in there although I think all the new tweens are now into sabrina carpenter more than taylor swift now it's kind of more of our, our wives age like early 30s, late 20s yeah, yeah, who is sabrina carpenter? You don't know sabrina carpenter? No, she's. She's the new Taylor Swift. I swear to God, seriously, yeah, she has a song Espresso. I can't play it right now because of copyright issues, but it's dope, it's pretty.
Speaker 2:actually it's nice.
Speaker 1:You're like okay, I would actually for me. I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift person, but her earlier stuff is great. I like her earlier recordings. But when I but like her earlier stuff is great, I like her earlier recordings but like when I listen to some kind of carpenter.
Speaker 1:You're like okay, this is kind of like up the same alley as Taylor Swift now, which is like poppy, okay, the song espresso is. She's just way more catchy. There's a lot more fun things and not as annoying of of a voice in my opinion. Sorry, everyone, I've heard Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2:This is why I was going on Patreon, so that he doesn't lose all his followers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If I was really into it. I would just like really go in on that Taylor Swift thing.
Speaker 2:When you get big enough, we can do an episode on that, which I think means you need to be more famous than Taylor Swift. That's never going to happen. A couple years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2:I don't see why not. Yeah, um so Sabrina Carpenter, I, my guess would be so, as somebody who, when their Bluetooth doesn't connect, actually listens to FM radio in the car. Okay, I probably have heard her songs numerous times, probably.
Speaker 1:And I just just, you probably have to have no idea who's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like olivia rodrigo. Yeah, know that name. They're in the same age range I think yeah, so it's like all.
Speaker 1:I probably would think that's her and it's just uh yeah, I don't remember the lyrics to espresso, I just, you know know, like two words, but that's the best thing about fm radio is you don't remember the lyrics to anything, you just know that like there's a vibe of what they're playing to you the whole time exactly yeah no, it's a dope song. Um, she's the new t swizzy. She's coming for the throne. All right, bookmark this for 15 years from now, 15 years from now, sabrina carpenter is going to take over the throne.
Speaker 2:Probably five, probably five years you think someone will dethrone tay Swift in the next five years? No, probably not. I think the problem is her fan base is still all in their 30s 10 years. Maybe I give her 10. Yeah, the Taylor Swift thing has wowed me because I have been a Taylor Swift fan since I was 15. The first album, the Taylor Swift album? Yeah, I love that album.
Speaker 1:I was a huge Tim McGraw fan. What?
Speaker 2:was her banger off that album, tim McGraw. There you go. Yeah, exactly. So that's how I found out about it. I fell off of this like fandom thing because everybody, like every girl now, claims at 35 years old, they've been a fan of Taylor Swift since they were five.
Speaker 1:And, like none, of this makes any sense you guys are completely.
Speaker 2:I respect it. If I could ever garner this type of fan for myself, I would totally do this. I love it. It's a cult. Love them, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Love cults. They're great. If you're a leader, it's great. It sucks for everyone else. But if you're the top dog, why not? Yeah?
Speaker 2:And I mean now. It's like everybody in their 30s has some money to go see these concerts. It's like she does not exist to tweens fans, except for the ones that their moms are able to pay for these tickets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's going to be a huge gap at some point. So the moms which are not yet well, they're not our age, they're how old? Are you? 35, 35? So I mean the moms that are buying a t swizzy.
Speaker 2:They're my age, they are your age yeah, you think so, and they have middle school daughters. Really, they're the moms that I know that had kids they're only two years, they're like 23, like 20, 20 to 23, have daughters in middle school and now it's like the thing they do together Interesting. Yeah, that's crazy. So by the time, jet, our eight month old daughter is in middle school. Yeah, I don't think Taylor Swift's going to be something we're doing with her Probably not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'll probably be Sabrina Carpenter. God damn, it had to come back to Sabrina Carpenter. Here we go. She'll be around full circle, right there, circle does it again, brings it all the way back home, here we go. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2:Uh, drake will probably still be a thing, you know, but just uh man, this is actually a heated argument between, like my guy friends and the girls. We all love drake but also taylor. Swift has buried drake as far as who's the biggest artist alive. I drake, admits, but there's no competition at all, it's not?
Speaker 1:anything. I mean there is a competition. He's the biggest rapper alive they do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So he shouts her out and he's like tagging her in his post to try to get paid.
Speaker 1:I mean the thing with drake. He's just trying to be alive, like and not in a physical body, but, yes, in physical body, but also like and just in the public's eye, like he is trying to outdo michael jackson, yeah he is he was. He is honestly our era's Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:There's nobody bigger than Drake.
Speaker 2:Besides, Taylor Swift yeah, and I agree with that and I would argue Beyonce, because I personally have an affection.
Speaker 1:I personally Beyonce over Taylor Swift, in my opinion, but also was raised on black music, so I just like Beyonce more.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, mean that's hard because I don't think there's any actual like there's. No, there's not any. There are any facts you could point to here that I would support that I know it's all emotional.
Speaker 1:It's all emotional at this point.
Speaker 2:It's all emotional I feel like that's how guys are about drake. Yeah, no, he's not selling out shows, but like it's more emotional drake is selling out shows, though well, yeah, but just not on the level that, like I mean, taylor swift is just so much bigger than anything I think we've ever seen drake sold out.
Speaker 1:Climate pledge yeah. Taylor. Swift sold out lumen field, where the seahawks play multiple nights, multiple nights. There's a big difference there.
Speaker 2:I agree. Also, taylor Swift is still putting out albums that have numerous hit songs, and Drake, we're like man, but that Take Care album was good.
Speaker 1:Take Care album was fire, though Honestly, my favorite album of Drake was Nothing. Was was the same. I think that's a good argument.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my favorite one.
Speaker 1:But I think the hip-hop aficionados would say take care take.
Speaker 2:I mean marvin's room though just like. It's just a vibe in the age that it came out like when that we were like and I know there's a studio he recorded in which was marvin's room in hollywood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on sunset I was two blocks away from marvin's room when I was in audio recording um school. You could hear him sobbing while he I could hear drake, two blocks away, sobbing on sunset for Marvin's room.
Speaker 2:Damn. Actually. What are your favorite sunset of live music spots?
Speaker 1:Sorry, sunset Boulevard sunset sunset Boulevard live music spots, I mean there were. I didn't really go to a lot of live music stuff, um, mostly because I was just grinding in the studio yeah all the time. So I didn't have time, but I did see trippy red. Like trippy red's a rapper, uh, and he was just coming out at the time.
Speaker 2:He was a soundcloud rapper yeah, trippy red is fairly like I. I don't know, I mean he's well known now, but like most people wouldn't know who he is. I feel like, of our audience, at least I mean we've already bonded over mac miller in the past and mac me yeah your. Your audience is not going to know rip I'm trying to get a tattoo of mac miller.
Speaker 1:honestly, um, yeah, like trippy red, I saw him, um, in hollywood. It was dude, I don't remember the name of the joint, it was some random theater, yeah. But we did a lot of our school, the audio engineering school, did a lot of live audio recording events there, just to for our students, for the people that are recording it, to learn, you know. So we did a lot of events there. Trippie wasn't a part of it he's too big of a name even at that point for that but we had, like, some random bands around Hollywood that would do stuff with us. So, it's, it was fun.
Speaker 1:I mean, the Trippie red thing was, yeah, it was down a couple of blocks, it was, I mean, everything in sunset's down a couple blocks, honestly. But, um, the the spot where I was recording at. So you go down the, go down the street, there's chick-fil-a on the corner, fire, um, and then you go down a little bit further there's a studio I'm not gonna name who they are, uh, because they don't sponsor the podcast um, but um, that's where marvin's room is and, yeah, like two blocks away, my studio was where eminem did his first ep or lp, his first lp there, and then also tupac recorded there with the marsh mallers lp. Yeah, yeah, the marsh mallers lp was recorded there.
Speaker 2:Banger Tupac Um. Was that the last good album recovered? Recorded their last good album Probably. You can't say the name of it, so we will never know. Um well, the studio, the studio now is owned by the recording school but they took over that ownership.
Speaker 1:Okay, before it was owned by Interscope, um, or also death Row Records, stuff like that, because Pac recorded Me Against the World there a lot of his earlier albums at that spot. But yeah, now it's owned by the recording studio. That's also Los Angeles Recording School and Los Angeles Film School as well.
Speaker 2:So they're big, yeah, recording school and los angeles film school as well. So they're big, yeah, sam and I last summer did the most basic bitch tour of sunset. Yeah, possibly tell me, tell me so we're down there and we're visiting my little brother who lives in silver lake. You know which is like trendy coming up. So sam likes reality tv. She watched, uh, vanderpump rules, yeah. So of course, what's there?
Speaker 1:they're at my winery really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, vanderpump yeah, the winery, I was working at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're, they came. Okay, they did a filmed episode there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's fun okay, I think I've actually heard of that happening. Yeah, because sam was telling about their wines. Because, like I know just enough more about wine that sam tries to impress me with reality TV show wine facts from time to time. Yeah, it's not that fun, but so we start. We start the night at. What is it? Uh, sir, is that the first one? The van the Vanderpump's restaurant down in West Hollywood? No idea, yeah.
Speaker 1:Whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever, let's call it, sir, I might, I might, totally sounds like this thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, just fucking sucks. This is the worst restaurant. Like I mean it's fine, but you're, people are only there because of the tv show. Now, I'm sure it was good 10 years ago, sure? And now it's like, oh, you're just getting there to get the fried goat cheese balls and it's super expensive. The fried goat cheese balls I made better ones for for the Vanderpump Rules reunion episode than we got at the actual restaurant.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, yeah they weren't.
Speaker 2:That good is what I'm getting at. And then we go up and we did the like Whiskey, a Go-Go Viper Room. There's another one across from that, not a new one, an old one across. I can't remember what the name of third one was, because at this point we're so drunk that I'm like yelling at my little brother on the sidewalk in front of the live music place, but it was super fun. I mean, these are all like so outdated at this point.
Speaker 1:Whiskey gogo is legendary, though it is, yeah, the doors, jim morrison, they're. They were discovered there one like Viper Room, is legendary for specific reasons. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know it's referenced in like Molly's Game. It's referenced in, basically you know, some great people dying there, that kind of thing. But it was really fun to do. And you know it's not like sold out as touristy, they're still like owned and run as live music shows. Oh cool. And the up and coming artists there are super small, nobody.
Speaker 1:Did you go to the original Whiskey Go Go or the new one, the original, the original, nice yeah.
Speaker 2:And so there's. I mean there's some cool stuff going on, but it's like will I remember anybody's name that I saw those nights? No, yeah, and there's 20 people there. I which makes me think, like, are people who are saying like, oh, we saw this band 25 years ago, whiskey ago, go? Do they actually remember it? Or did you just go see some live band and then you like put?
Speaker 1:the dates together later and you're like, yeah, I was there yeah yeah, totally, because you're not gonna know at that moment you're not gonna remember like oh, that was that band, that was amazing, blew my brain away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, how amazing would you have to be in front of 50 people? Yeah, because, like the whole vibe isn't going to be there, you'd have to blow everybody's minds away for me to remember the name of that band yeah however many years well, the thing is with the music industry, it doesn't really matter the audience.
Speaker 1:You have it just meant. It just matters who is in the audience. Right, so it's like you can play a whiskey, go 50 people. But if a and R is there from like Interscope or Capitol records and they hear your shit and they think you're amazing.
Speaker 2:Well then, when some dude 20 years later from Rolling Stone writes an article about how I saw this band that night yeah, and this band's huge at that point, yeah and you're like, wait, was that the night I was there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you look at your calendar and you're like that was the night I was there. I did see them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Not, because you remember them and thought this is going to be the biggest band in the world.
Speaker 1:This is going to be the next Taylor Swift the next Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2:But we have audio that Ian claims he knows who the next Taylor Swift is. It's.
Speaker 1:Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 2:Sabrina Carpenter. She is thousand percent.
Speaker 1:Sabrina Carpenter is the next T Swizzy, that's an espresso. Vina Nespresso, vina Nespresso, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, the next time you bring me on here, I'm bringing the guitar Do it.
Speaker 1:We're going to see what you can do. Let's do it. Thanks for coming on brother, hey man.
Speaker 2:I've been waiting months for the invite. I appreciate it a lot. Of course I'm happy. I rose to a high enough level that you brought me on.
Speaker 1:So thank you I got you. Thank you, jabronis. Go look at the Beer League. It's all in the show notes. Go check them out. We love you. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers you.
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