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Human Design for Small Business: Run Your Business in Alignment with Your Energy (with Renee Rendell)

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About this episode:
Today I’m joined by Renee Rendell eclectic witch, tarot reader, and coach behind Sagittarian Tarot & Coaching, to demystify human design (plus a dash of astrology and tarot) for small business owners. If you’ve ever wondered why some weeks you’re on fire and other weeks you’re running on fumes, this conversation will help you understand your energy type and how to work with it, not against it.

What we cover:

  • What modern witchcraft actually is (energy work, intention, and simple spells)
  • Tarot as a mirror for decision-making (not fortune telling)
  • Human Design 101: the five energy types and how they show up at work
    • Manifestor: create in bursts; inform as you build
    • Generator: do what lights you up; respond to the right prompts
    • Manifesting Generator: multi-passionate; don’t force what no longer fits
    • Projector: big-picture strategist; guide, don’t grind
    • Reflector: mirror of the room; protect your energy + boundaries
  • Practical examples of structuring your day, marketing, and decision-making based on your design
  • Why self-awareness prevents burnout (especially for solopreneurs)

Key takeaways:

  • Your energy type can guide when and how you create, sell, and deliver.
  • Marketing feels easier when it’s aligned with your natural strengths.
  • Start simple: learn your Energy Type, Strategy & Authority first.
  • Tools to explore: Align app (human design) and CHANI app (astrology).

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This episode is sponsored by Diane at Quinn Hypnosis helping small business owners reduce anxiety, quiet imposter syndrome, and feel more balanced.
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Guest — Renee Rendell (Sagittarian Tarot & Coaching)

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  • Align (Human Design)
  • CHANI (Astrology)

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SPEAKER_00:

Hi, hello, welcome. I'm Amanda Hughes, your host of Small Business Growth Addicts. I escaped the corporate world after 12 months of a side hustle which turned into my full-time income. Fast forward 10 years and I'm running not my first but my second small business and this time around it's with a passion to share all that I know, all that I've learned and all that I'm still learning with fellow small business owners. As the title of the show suggests, I am addicted to growing my business and I know you are too. Growth means different things to different people though and that's why a whole host of subjects on Growth Addicts, whether that's in a solo episode, just me, or with one of my many awesome guests. Between us, we share advice, tips, and real-life entrepreneurial experience. So grab a pen, a cuppa, and a biscuit, obviously, and get ready to grow that small business of yours. This is Small Business Growth Addicts. Hello and welcome to another episode of Small Business Growth Addicts. Welcome! Today I am joined by the most incredible and interesting guest Renee Rendell who is a witch behind Sagittarian tarot and coaching. Renee is an eclectic witch and a tarot reader who helps spiritual women embrace their radical authenticity and helps them find the courage to create lives that they actually truly love. She's obsessed with all things magic especially astrology and human design and self I've been so looking to having this conversation today with Renee because I'm really interested in human design and purposely didn't research it beforehand because I genuinely want to learn from Renee today so the questions you hear me asking today are with genuine genuine interest as they always are but this is a subject that I don't know anything about and Renee uses this human design and astrology to guide people towards their life's purpose using their own authentic energy and how cool is that so today in this episode we're going to dive into all of this but particularly human design exploring how understanding your own unique energy can actually help you run your business in a way that feels right for you it feels aligned productive and powerful so yeah let's not hang around and let's meet Renee. This episode is sponsored by Diane at Quinn Hypnosis. Diane helps small business owners just like us get rid of anxiety reduce overwhelm and feel more balanced overall. Diane offers a better balance, better you programme that's tailored to your individual needs. Whether that's group sessions or one-to-one, just contact Diane on Instagram at Quinn Hypnosis for a free consultation. Welcome Renee, how are you this morning? I'm great, thank you so much for having me. I can't wait to get stuck into this conversation today about a few things. I think a few things are going to come up in this conversation but particularly around human design because I'm totally new to it and I purposely haven't researched it or anything before this because I just want to learn all about it. I know you're the person to learn from. But first off, for those who don't know you yet, could you share a little bit about your journey into tarot, astrology, and of course, human design and how it led to your coaching business today? Yeah, that's a bit

SPEAKER_01:

of a wild story. So I actually didn't discover witchcraft until 2018. And I heard about it of all places on a news podcast. So they were doing a story about the rise of modern witchcraft. Prior to that, my attitude had been very much like people who sit under pyramids and they're a bunch of weirdos and that doesn't make any sense. But I heard these women talking about modern witchcraft and they were published authors. They were university professors. They were really well-respected in their field. They weren't weirdos. And I was like, this sounds awesome. am I allowed to do this? I didn't know that I, as just, you know, like a normal average person, was allowed to do this. I'd always been fascinated by energy work and I was doing a little bit of mindfulness meditation, some yoga and stuff like that. That's how it starts. That's the gateway, isn't it? Absolutely. But it took about six months or so for me to find the time to then go and start doing my own research. But from the moment I started reading up about what modern witchcraft was all about, I was hooked. I felt like I had come home. I was like, this is what I've always believed perfectly aligns with everything that I already know to be true. And I just didn't know that there were other people out there believing the same thing. I didn't know that there was a practice for this. I didn't know that I was allowed to do this. And I just became immediately obsessed. And it kind of took over my life. So I started by making my already existing food blog a little bit more about witchcraft and then I started meeting with other women who were interested in witchcraft and becoming the de facto leader of our coven because that kind of thing is just it's in my chart which will come to you and just everything that I kind of the more I learned the more obsessed I became and the more real the magic actually seemed for me and then I just was compelled to share it with other people.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow did you just feel like you'd arrived you'd just find something you'd arrived and you mentioned you came across modern witchcraft so what is modern witchcraft because probably a lot of people are listening are still thinking of these misconceptions or historical interpretations of witchcraft For so many people,

SPEAKER_01:

they hear the word witchcraft and they think of what they see in horror movies, right? They think that witchcraft is evil. They think that witches eat babies and all sorts of horrible stuff, right? But witchcraft is really just a form of energy work. So witches believe that everything is energy and that energy exists in us, it exists in the universe, and it exists in all things. So we set intentions to focus our energy on what we want to call in, what we want to manifest in our lives, and then what makes it really witchcraft versus just kind of general energy work is the use of spells where we incorporate natural elements like herbs, crystals, candles, things like that to create sort of a physical representation of the energy of the thoughts that we're sending out into the universe to help sort of elevate the energy that we're putting out.

SPEAKER_00:

Nice. I don't know what you can see behind me, but if you look above my head, you might see a little collection. I definitely spotted that. I bet you did. Can I see some herbs drying behind you, behind your head? Yeah. So, yeah, so I am a very keen forager. And then this year really got interested in the medicinal properties, which then led into a path of looking at the magical properties of herbs and flowers. And like you, I was a bit like, this is a whole thing. like this is amazing so yeah that's perhaps a whole other episode on its own but totally hear you on the magical properties of all sorts of things and energy and when it can be focused like really magical things can happen can't it yeah so when you came across this you were just like all encompassed by the whole thing you were like I have arrived this is a thing that gets me this is amazing and then did it become sort of did your interest become more focused then on the likes of tarot human design other things

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah. looking up that card, learning about what it meant, and really weaving that meaning into my own experience of the card. By doing that just one card a day, before you know it, I started recognizing cards and I started having a deeper relationship with them. And I didn't need to look at the book anymore. I had my own interpretations. And it was something that came easily, something that came naturally, because I've always loved stories. I've always been interested in mythology and archetypes. So it was a really great way for me to connect with my intuition, my higher self, and the universe. And so what is tarot exactly? Yeah, so tarot, it's a form of oracle cards, but tarot is a set system. So with general oracle cards, they're based on the ideas of the creator, and they can be about literally anything. But tarot is a set system of 78 cards split into two halves. There's the major and the kind of the famous ones, the cards with the name death, the tower, the moon, the sun, the emperor, things like that. And then the minor arcana are your suits, wands, cups, swords, and pentacles. And those represent the four different elements. And there's ace through 10, and then king, page, knight, queen, and king in every suit. And each of those 78 cards has its own unique energy that can guide us to higher understandings and self-discovery.

SPEAKER_00:

If you know me by now, you'll know that I love social media. It's how I've grown my businesses and now I want to help you do the same. That's why I created Get Seen Get Sales, my mentor group for small business owners who want to get seen online and actually attract followers that convert to customers. Inside you'll get weekly content prompts, live workshops and support on everything you need to grow confidently on social media. If you're feeling stuck, overwhelmed or just ready to do things differently, I've got you. head to smallbusinessgrowthaddicts.com to join us. Wow. Okay. And it's more about guidance than sort of divination, like, you know, for that's commonly in terms of fortune telling. Is it more about guidance than that?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, definitely with the way that I use them. I have no idea what's going to happen to you. I cannot predict your future. I always say that the tarot cards kind of hold a mirror up to you at a different angle than you're really able to see yourself. And so it gives you a deeper insight and the messages come through your intuition. And so they just show you what you need. need to know so I'm looking at what kind of energy do I need to be able to manifest the things that I want in my life

SPEAKER_00:

wow and you know you mentioned intuition there and that's become a really big deal in my own life since my son was ill so I had twins during lockdown as well 2020 a boy and a girl and our little boy was just so unwell but we really struggled to get a diagnosis but my intuition was so fierce I knew there was something serious wrong but I didn't know what you know I'm not a doctor I'm not medically trained but I knew I knew it wasn't just colic or just whatever and it turned out to be a really rare and catastrophic form of epilepsy but that intuition like I've never felt anything like it before it was off the charts yeah and it kept happening again and again when I just knew I just knew and so that really woke me up to intuition really in a big way as well listening to that and the amount of times I've ignored it over the years and relationships and particularly and I don't think I'll ever do that again like she knows stuff she knows

SPEAKER_01:

so often our intuition whispers it's quiet it's under the surface it's not panicky like your subconscious like your ego that is like screaming at you to be afraid don't don't do that but sometimes especially in moments that are really critical like the example that you just gave if it really needs you to know it's gonna speak up It's going to make sure that you are aware. In more general day-to-day things, it kind of keeps it low-key. So if you're not paying attention, it's easy to ignore it. But as you say, once you learn to tune into that, it guides you in every aspect of your life, from relationships to self-care to even business. Yeah,

SPEAKER_00:

yeah, absolutely. We're definitely going to get into that today. And it becomes unignorable once you've really experienced it and really tapped in, doesn't it? Yeah. And this guide that makes life that bit easier it becomes easier to say no to things when it just doesn't feel like a yes

SPEAKER_01:

yeah once you're aware of the wisdom that's available to you through your intuition you don't want to ignore it

SPEAKER_00:

anymore and I also feel that that's something that's come with age as well the privilege of aging because when I turned 40 I feel like she kicked in even more and she was like okay you know you've got a lesson we're not messing around anymore and I can imagine how if you have a daily practice in the morning that's really with your tarot cards and tuning into that how that really must become a guiding light. And so what about human design? Where did that come in? What is that? Like I said at the start, I'm completely new to that and so totally open to learning.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, once I sort of entered into this realm of witchcraft and magic, which ironically was like the thing that led me to more personal development kind of work. You're on social media and you just start hearing about things. You're listening to podcasts and you're like, human design, what's that? Kind of like where you are right now. So I went and started to look it up and it wasn't really until I worked with a coach That was really influential to me earlier on in my business. And she was like, I want you to really take a close look at human design. So she directed me to what is still my favorite resource. At the time, it was called the My Human Design app. It has recently been rebranded and it's called Align. But this is a really great way to access information about your human design chart because unlike astrology, now an astrology natal chart is complicated enough. If you've seen that big circle with all the little like looks like pie pieces and it's got dots all over it. I can kind of look at that and make sense of it. It's still really complicated. Human design, if you just look at the chart, it's kind of, unless you really know what you're doing, unless you're an expert, it's kind of gobbledygook. You can't really make heads or tails of it. So you need something with a little bit of description to guide you to it. But human design is like astrology on steroids. So it incorporates your astrology, but it also incorporates quantum theory, I Ching chakra system energy flow it's got all of these different elements woven into it it is a relatively new modality so it kind of came into being i want to say in the late 70s it's really kind of gained popularity i think in the last five years but when you hear about it like if you go back and read about how it was founded you're gonna be like this is a cult this sounds crazy Everybody I know who has dug into their human design chart says it's the most seen they've ever felt.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

It's incredibly accurate and it gives you so much

SPEAKER_00:

information about yourself. So like describing you, yeah. So information about yourself, is that it? So if you're saying it's astrology on steroids, I'm thinking of like reading your horoscope and how you can relate to it. So it's like that, but more relatable then? What does it actually tell you about yourself?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So it's kind of comparing to an astrology natal chart. chart. So above and beyond like a monthly horoscope in a magazine, your astrology needle chart shows you the placement of all the planets and points at the moment of your birth. And then that gives you information about yourself, your life purpose, what motivates you, how you attract abundance and things like that. And your human design layers on even more information on top of that. So if you're looking up your human design, the place that you want to start is by looking at your energy type. And this kind of tells you how to use your energy on a daily basis, kind of what fuels you, what motivates you, and how you should be showing up in the world. It's kind of equivalent to your sun sign in astrology. So there are five different energy types. And when you go and look yours up, you will find that you are either a manifester, a generator, a manifesting generator, a projector, or a reflector. Okay. And even if you only gather information about your energy type for a good like two or three months if you get to know that really well it's going to have a huge impact on the way that you show up in the world

SPEAKER_00:

and show up in your business I can imagine as well so I want to come on to that next this is just so interesting so fascinating for me personally like I'm so interested in this but I have to know how Renee found what's witchcraft and tarot and astrology and human design and whatnot, and how did it turn into your coaching business? Again,

SPEAKER_01:

I followed my intuition. One of the first big changes I wanted to make in my life, because what happened when I started practicing witchcraft was for the first time in many, many years, I asked myself, what do I want for my life? What is going to make me happy? Not what do I think I can get away with? Not what do I think is achievable? Not what does anybody else want or need from me? What do I want? And the universe kept telling me, you need to have your own business. Now, at that point, it didn't tell me what that business was going to look like, but I would go walking down my street, being on the bus, and I would see all of these small businesses. And I'm like, why can they have their own business and I don't? There's no reason for me not to be working for myself. I'm highly motivated, a self-starter. I'm full of ideas. I don't need somebody telling me what to do. And I'm definitely not interested in continuing to work to make someone else rich. So I just kind of unfolded it bit by bit. So like I said before, I had this food blog already. I started focusing on that. And then I discovered that I had this talent for tarot and I started offering that. And it just, every time that a spark of a new idea came to me. I explored it a little bit and saw how I could weave it into my business. And so now I have all these different layers to my business from one-to-one spiritual coaching, where I really help people tap into reclaiming their desires, finding their magic, and living a more authentic and empowered life. Obviously, one-to-one tarot readings, but I also host witchcraft workshops and events. I have a moon magic membership. Just everything So going back to my human design, this is part of my energy. So my energy type is manifesting generator. And manifesting generators are multi-passionate people who have to be doing what lights them up, but they can't stick to just one thing. Sounds familiar. And for a long time in my business, you read the kind of conventional wisdom is focus on one thing, niche down, just do this one thing and be really good at it, which Sounds like great advice, but if you're a manifesting generator, that is going to box you in and that is going to dull your flame because you're actually meant to show people a different way to live.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and especially if that path has taken you into a job that you're just being conditioned to think that's your job, that's what you do now, that's the end of it. You can feel really constantly feeling like something's not right.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and so when you start looking at things like astrology and human design, you start to realize that those urges you have, those desires that maybe you've been trying to suppress, they're there for a reason, that you were born for this. You're not crazy. You're not weird. You're not wrong. You're just different. And the more you are able to understand yourself and your unique energy, the more free you feel to be yourself, the more you understand your challenges and how you have to which... To a certain extent, you do really need that guidance. But also, I wasn't giving myself permission to say, this is for me, this is not for me. This aligns with my energy, this does not, so I'm not going to listen to that person. It took me a while to really understand myself and the kind of person that I am to know that I need to stop listening to the people who are telling me to do just one thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Incredible. So of course, once you're armed with this information, if you have looked into astrology and you've looked into human design and you've found out more about yourself and you're like yep that makes sense like that I've got things within me that I want to explore but I was afraid to or didn't know I could or thought that life's not meant for me or whatever and you find out more about yourself and you learn that you can then that must be such powerful information to go into business ownership with.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah absolutely I offer something called a celestial self-discovery session so this is where I We don't go into every level of your astrology and human design, but we look at your sun, moon, and rising sign in astrology, and we look at your energy type, your strategy and authority, which is how you make decisions and how your intuition shows up in your life. And then we also look at something called your profile, which is about your personality. And these are kind of the major players in both of these systems. There is so much detail. You could write a thousand-page book about yourself. with all the information you would get from this. But for people who are just starting out, I don't want to overwhelm them with too much information. Just looking at those few things in those two charts usually leads to about a five-page, like 12-point font-typed report. So there's still a ton of information you can get from that that really opens up people to structuring their day in a way that feels more supportive, dealing with clients in a way that feels more supportive, approaching their marketing in a way that feels more aligned to them. I know so many business owners, female business owners in particular, who really have this kind of icky resistance, this unhelpful feeling around sales and marketing, myself included. But if you are structuring your sales and marketing in alignment with your energy, then it can feel fun. It can feel freeing. It can feel exciting because if you have a brilliant idea that can help people, who the hell are you to not share that with the world how rude of you to keep that to yourself we need you so you have to find out what is going to work for me

SPEAKER_00:

before we dive back in i want to talk about something i know holds so many small business owners back low confidence that not so quiet voice of imposter syndrome whispering who does she think she is i've been there too but recently i had a session with diane at quinn hypnosis and honestly it was incredible she helped me quite Yeah, absolutely. And I guess I can relate to that and how I feel about social media because so many many people dread using social media for their business just don't know how it works scared of it feel like it changes all the time but I've used it for so long now for more than one business I enjoy it I've curated it I see things on there that I want to see that I like built a community of people I enjoy speaking to so it's a fun place for me and it feels easy to me to market my business on there because like I know I've got stuff to share that I know people want and need and are asking me for so like you say it would be rude to keep it to myself yeah absolutely I feel like this is definitely why this is something entrepreneurs business owners should care about they should care about getting to know themselves more and be able to do business in a way that feels right for them and this seems like this is such a huge key for

SPEAKER_01:

it absolutely especially if you are a solopreneur or you only have a very small team and if your business is something that is your passion something that you're creating if you're not working in alignment with your energy, you're going to burn out so quickly. And if you are your business, if you don't have any energy, your business doesn't have any energy. So the more self-awareness you can bring, the more you can understand yourself, the more you are valuing the most important asset in your business, which is your own mind, your own heart, your own energy. Yeah,

SPEAKER_00:

it starts with you, doesn't it? It really does start with you. Yep. And so you mentioned a few different types of human design there. I remember manifester manifesting generator I forgot you mentioned another two like reflections

SPEAKER_01:

yeah so there's five energy types there's manifester generator manifesting generator which combines a little bit of manifesting in with the generator energy there's a projector and there's a reflector

SPEAKER_00:

could you give us just a brief description of how each of those five types might run a business

SPEAKER_01:

I will do my absolute best. So as much as I love human design, I'm very much still in a position where I have to regularly look things up for people. Astrology, I can kind of rattle off a little bit more quickly. I

SPEAKER_00:

just think that if anyone's less than, if we give them a brief description, they might be like,

SPEAKER_01:

oh,

SPEAKER_00:

that sounds

SPEAKER_01:

relatable. Definitely. So manifestors are the ones that are creating things in the world. Their energy ebbs and flows. So sometimes they'll feel really inspired to create and sometimes not so much. And I think we feel a lot of pressure to always be creating. But for a manifester, you want to tune into those moments of inspiration and really run with those. And when you're not feeling inspired, give yourself permission to lay low, maybe like catch up on admin, do some of the not so fun, not so sexy stuff so that your business is still moving, but let go of some of that need to always feel on. Okay. Yeah. Generators put things out. They're the ones who are doing the work, but they only do really great work when they feel inspired what they're doing. So the job of the generator is to look for what excites me and how can I create more of that in the world? Now, the beauty of this is that everybody will be excited by something different. So there's plenty of this energy to go around and you're going to be in your sweet spot when you're doing the thing that excites you most. One of my close friends who's also a business buddy. She is a generator and she always says she's not great at coming up with new ideas like a manifester is. But once she gets the idea, once she gets something to respond to, which is her strategy, it's another layer of your human design, then she is really great at churning out the work, making it happen, putting together the spreadsheets and the presentations and the Canva docs and all that kind of stuff. Once she gets the idea, but she's not good at just like sitting down and brainstorming ideas. That's not her area of expertise. Now, if you are a manifesting generator like me, sounds like maybe you may be a manifesting generator. You have a little bit of both. So you definitely want to work on the things that light you up, but you are going to have a little bit more of an ability to come up with new ideas for yourself. That's a blazon and a curse.

UNKNOWN:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah. Sometimes it's ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. Uh-huh. Absolutely. And take it even another level. This is like intermediate human design. We have these things called gates, and each one kind of gives you a different gift, a different access to a different sort of skill or knowledge. And you have a most prominent gate in your human design. And mine is gate 11, which is being an ideas person. You come up with ideas out of the blue all the time. And they might not always be for you, but your mind is constantly pinging with ideas. And it can get to be a lot.

SPEAKER_00:

Especially if you have a membership of people who you want to share those ideas with. And sometimes I'm like, Faye, I just thought of something for you this morning and I'll pop that in the group chat. Oh, Claire, you could probably tie into this as well. And they must be like, okay, chill. Or

SPEAKER_01:

maybe they're really grateful because if this is your gift, then again, you need to be using that. And this is how we let the universe know, I'm ready to receive the unique life that you have in store for me, is by using our gifts, right? With a manifesting generator, the worst thing that you can do is force yourself to continue to do something that you don't like anymore. Manifesting generators are going to have a lot of different career paths, a lot of different projects. That's how they are supposed to live. This

SPEAKER_00:

is really sounding familiar. So I'm 100% going to have to look into this.

SPEAKER_01:

Project Projectors, they're often described as like a bird on a wire. Projectors are able to take a really high overview of things and they have a really clear understanding of the way that systems work together, the way that things flow. They just see how things are meant to fit together really clearly. This comes naturally to them. They're meant to be more like consultants or coaches, problem solvers, rather than the people actually doing the work, they're the ones that are saying, this is how this all needs to run. So they're really good at strategy, long term planning, you know, systems and logistics and things like that. But again, the area that they're going to be able to coordinate best is the area that excites them. So just because you're a projector doesn't mean that you would necessarily be like, you know, wanting to go like they all go into engineering or something like that. First thing

SPEAKER_00:

that came to mind was engineering and thinking that's probably a male dominated world. And is that more of a, is there more males perhaps in that or not?

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know, it could be way off here. There is a lower sort of overall percentage of projectors in the population. There's not as many of them as there are generators and manifesting generators. But the thing that you're going to be really good at organizing is the thing that you care the most about. So it can be in any industry, any area of life. And then the last type is a reflector. There's only about, I want to say, I think it's like 5% of the population are reflectors. And so they're a really unique energy type. I've actually never met a reflector, but this is somebody who, it's kind of hard to explain because in a way they don't generate their own energy. They mirror back the energy that is around them. They're like totally open to receiving energy from outside sources. So if you are a reflector, you have to be really good at keeping up with your energetic cleansing and your boundary setting and being able to feel what's yours and what's someone

SPEAKER_00:

else's. Be careful with who you surround yourself with, I would imagine, if that's something that you feel, yeah?

SPEAKER_01:

You really want to have positive, supportive, uplifting people in your sphere because you're You're going to be taking on a lot of energy from the people around you.

SPEAKER_00:

Gosh, yeah. And especially if you're in any sort of counseling or even coaching or any, yeah, you'd have to be really careful about the people you work with there, how it affects you. Interesting. God, that is so fascinating, isn't it? And so I wonder if, do you have an example you could share with us and you don't need to share names or anything of a client that you've worked with in your coaching business who has discovered human design and how that changed how they work in their business?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, actually, I worked with a coaching client a while back now who hadn't looked at her human design before. She had a business and she'd been trying a lot of different things, but hadn't really quite landed on exactly what was right for her yet. She was kind of experimenting. We looked at her astrology and her human design, and we looked at the fact that she was a manifester, that idea generation was really important to her, and that she wasn't necessarily meant to be feeling high energy all of the time. And I remember a couple of days after we looked at her chart and she messaged me and she was like, this has opened up so much for me. I'm going to take my business in a totally different direction. I am letting go. Again, I'm letting go of all the things that people told me I should do. And I'm going to move toward the thing that excites me the most. Also, as a manifester, again, if we look at your strategy and authority, they're really about informing people and letting them know what they're working on. It's not necessarily like, this is my perfect finished polished product, but this is what I'm excited about right now. This is what I'm creating. And that enthusiasm brings people along and pulls people into their energy, into their business. And she was like, I can't wait to start telling people about what I'm working on. I held back and waited until everything was perfect. And now that I know this about myself, I just get me permission to be more me

SPEAKER_00:

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SPEAKER_01:

yeah i think a simple first step is to go to an app like align i'm not affiliated with them but it's one it's one that i use and have found really reliable also to get a full human design chart reading is usually several hundred pounds it's a big investment now if you're super excited about that i think you know the information is really valuable but if you just want to test it out before you make that big investment, this app is a really great way to do it. You need to know your date and time of birth, as well as your place of birth. I think most of us know that. If you're not sure about your time of birth, you can maybe check your birth certificate. I don't think it's on all UK birth certificates. So if you can't find it, generally your mom is the best source of that information, but not always. And maybe she's not around to ask. The more accurate your birth time is, the more accurate your chart will be. So you go to an app like a line. You put that information in about yourself and it spits out this incredible report. You do have to pay for the premium version to read your full report, but it's like six pounds.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. It's totally worth it to pay for one month to read all that information about yourself. And I say, take it slow. Don't necessarily try to absorb all the information at once because there is a lot. We haven't even talked about digestion and environment, the ways that you take information and the spaces that you need to put yourself in to be the most productive. We haven't looked at your profile, how you show up in the world and how others see you. There's tons of information in there. So take it slow. Give yourself time to process, reflect on it, think about it. And if that really excites you, you could come to me and we can dig in with celestial self-discovery and we'll combine astrology and human design. Or you can find somebody who does full human design chart readings and make that big leap that big investment

SPEAKER_00:

awesome wow and you were talking about time you were born there so I was born at 9.26 in the morning and I'm not a morning person at all like early mornings just it's just not my time and I just always think 9.26 in the morning what a very respectable reasonable time to arrive like not annoying anyone in the middle of the night yep there's some reason that my time of birth just always sticks in my head like that 9.26 that's quite nice your

SPEAKER_01:

birth time is also are really important for your astrology needle chart because the rising sign changes about every two hours and your rising sign sets the houses in your astrology chart. So it's really crucial. Is that sun and moon related? Your sign, the one everybody knows is like, hey, what's your sign? Aquarius. Yes, yeah. That's your sun sign. So if you only know, that's kind of like the big one. And the reason that became so popular is because the sun takes about a month to transit from one sign to another. So as long as you know your date of birth, you can usually know your sun sign. And so that's the one that shows up in the newspaper horoscopes and things like that. And then you actually have a sign and a house for every planet. But the main ones that people tend to focus on are the sun and the moon. Your sun is your life's purpose. It's how you show up in the world. The moon is more about your body, your physical experience of the world It's about your day-to-day experience and your self-care needs. And your rising sign is very much about your motivation for life, why you're here, what you're meant to do, and how you interact with the world. So those are kind of the big three in astrology. But there's also every other planet. There's minor points and asteroids. And like I said, all of those line up with a house. Again, you could write a thousand-page book about yourself based on this information.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, it is fascinating though. So I think, yeah, we'll definitely be here for this Align app. You're not affiliated, but perhaps you should be, Renee.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I know. I don't know if they do affiliates, but another thing I should be an affiliate for is the Chani app. So if you're looking for a really great app for astrology, that's the one that I highly recommend. It is written by actual human astrologers. It's not AI generated. It's C-H-A-N-I. It's named for the astrologer who founded it, Chani Nicholas. So it's a person's name. That's why it's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00:

Love it. Love it. And so if someone does go and have a peek at this and then wants to learn more, how can they work with you then? You mentioned you could do the celestial. Was that right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I offer just a one-off two-hour celestial self-discovery coaching session. And so you send me your birth information and I will go and do a bunch of the deep digging for you. I will look up your natal astrology chart and human design chart, like I said, kind of start with the big stuff. Depending on how experienced the person is, we might dig a little bit deeper, but what I don't want is for you to walk away feeling overwhelmed and then never use the information because this is so valuable. So it's an introduction to astrology and human design, but it looks specifically at your chart and you set an intention for what you want to learn about that. So if you want to learn how to improve your experience of your We can look specifically at how can you use this information about yourself to make the way that you work in your business flow more easily, feel more abundant, feel more expansive. There's light and shadow in everything. For example, I am a triple fire. I have all three fire signs as my big three. A big challenge for me is burnout. That's something that I have to be really aware of. If you're an Aquarius, you're going to be full of ideas, right? But a challenge for you might be sometimes you can be not very relatable because you're so much smarter than everyone else. I don't

SPEAKER_00:

know about that,

SPEAKER_01:

but okay. We look at how you can accept and work with those challenges as well and what you need to be aware of to make sure that you're protecting yourself and your business so that you can keep going for the long term. So it's a two-hour session. It is a deep dive into those basics of your astrology and human design to give you that really heightened awareness of how to make changes in your business so that it feels more authentic to you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that honestly just sounds so fascinating. So something that I'm definitely going to look in. I'm going to download these apps as soon as I come off the call, for sure. But where can we find you, Renee? Where can we find you to just learn a bit more about you and

SPEAKER_01:

whatnot? Absolutely. The best place to hang out with me on social media is on Instagram. That's where I am most of the time, at Sagittarian Tarot. There's two Ts in Sagittarian. You can also find me on Facebook every once in a while, on TikTok I'm on LinkedIn as Renee Rendell. And you can find information about all of my services and offerings at SagittarianTarot.com.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, awesome. Okay, great. I will include those links in the show notes today so you can easily click through and find Renee. Highly recommend that you do. Renee, you have a podcast as well. I

SPEAKER_01:

do. So I'm the creator and co-host of the Coven of Awesomeness podcast. It's about a little bit of everything. Honestly, when I started it, I wasn't really sure what it was going to be about. Again, I was just following my intuition and my astrology and human design is very much like what's the worst that can happen kind of vibe. I'm all about building the plane while it's in the air. So we didn't really know what direction the podcast was going to go in when we started it, but it ended up being a lot about witchcraft because Louise, my co-host, is also my coven sister. And so that's what we want to talk about all the time. It's everyday well-being through the lens of witchcraft after

SPEAKER_00:

we say love it and I do I listen so I was introduced to your podcast via my sister and then the first one I listened to was your episode with our lovely Emma the biz witch and I listened to that and then found Emma found out that Emma was totally as I like to say to my sister chinned to the moon as she is as well and I think I am too because I was learning about the moon and all the different energies and you know and I was totally drawn by the fact that it can control tides and weather and whatnot and you know it has an effect on us as well moon magic was

SPEAKER_01:

one of the first things I started working with when I discovered witchcraft it's so powerful

SPEAKER_00:

fascinating isn't it and so I really related with Emma to that and then that's how I found you as part of Emma's community as well shout out to Emma our lovely Emma Anderson has taken some time out just so so we're sending her lots and lots of love but yes isn't it funny how through all these wonderful women we've came here today to have this chat and I thought Renee is going to be amazing for our podcast because this is a fascinating chat and I was so spot on because it has been. It's been so interesting. Do you think there's anything we've not chatted about today that you'd like to tell listeners? We've covered quite a lot, haven't we?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we really have. And of course, there are a million other things that we could talk about, but just want to really encourage people to use this incredible tool. There are a lot of self-discovery tools out there. There's Enneagram, there's Myers-Briggs, and I know people are really, really into those. The thing that's different about astrology and human design is that it's completely detached from you it's not you giving information about yourself it's the universe giving you information about you so there's no bias there's no bs it is your energy written in the stars it's who you were born to be wow

SPEAKER_00:

what a fantastic line to end on that is just sounds incredible and i i would challenge you to not be intrigued to learn more about that especially if it can then help us learn more about ourselves and how we run our business if you're finding at certain times you're getting overwhelmed certain times you're high energy certain times content creation is flowing other times you cannot think of anything no matter what it's probably all linked to this isn't it all your energies and just how you work and how you move so let's go learn more about it and if you want to take that even further then get in touch with Renee because that consultation sounds amazing the two hour session that you do to dig deeper but yes as I say all those links will be in the show notes today you can easily click through and find Renee please do thank you so much for joining us today that has been such an interesting chat I can't wait to get this episode out there and I will of course come and connect with you on Instagram as I usually do that's great thank you so much take care thank you so much for joining us today for another episode of Small Business Growth Addicts I hope today's episode has given you inspiration and tangible tips that you can use to grow your small business in a way that feels right for you If you loved today's episode, please head over to smallbusinessgrowthaddicts.com and check out today's show notes where you can find details of our wonderful guests, sponsors, discounts, freebies and so much more. Please also don't forget to leave a review today. Reviews are invaluable to us to help us get the show out there. Every single one is read and very much appreciated. Until next time.